April 1, 2025 • 23 mins
Episode 67: If you can't see the Bright Side I will sit with you in the Darkness
Embracing Darkness and Light: Finding Strength in Tough Times
In this episode of Conversations with Kimen, the speaker delves into the importance of companionship and understanding during times of hardship. Highlighting how presence and empathy can alleviate feelings of loneliness, they share personal anecdotes and advice on supporting friends in pain. The discussion emphasizes the growth that comes from facing difficulties, the necessity of self-care, and the power of resilience. Listeners are encouraged to validate their emotions, accept tough times as temporary, and lean into moments of joy. The episode wraps up with a heartfelt promise of unwavering support, whether in darkness or light.
00:00 Introduction: Sitting in the Darkness
00:42 The Aha Moment: Embracing Pain
01:47 Building Resilience Through Tough Times
03:17 Supporting Others in Crisis
07:13 The Importance of Speaking Your Truth
11:26 Accepting and Overcoming Challenges
15:10 Finding Strength in Tough Times 21:43
Conclusion: This Too Will Pass
22:34 Outro: Thank You for Listening
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Episode Transcript
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(00:04):
If you can't look on the bright side,
I will sit you with you in the darkness.
This is who I try to be in life whenpeople are having a tough moment.
You see, I understand.
The truth is I can't take your pain away.
(00:31):
But I can make sure you don'tfeel alone when you're in pain,
when you're in my presence.
I remember a close friend of mine,she was, was very wise way beyond
her years, and she was goingthrough this incredibly tough time
(00:53):
and.
And she was crying and I'm like, I wasgetting emotional and like, oh man, I
wish I could just take your pain away.
And she looked up at me with tears in hereyes and she said, don't take my pain.
I need my pain.
It makes me grow.
(01:15):
And that was an aha moment for me.
Because honestly, if you've beenin my space when you're hurting,
like you'll see that I justcan't, I don't want you to feel
that way.
If you are really, really upset,I just want to be there with you.
I want to care.
(01:35):
I wanna let you know you're not alone.
But I also understandthat the truth of life.
Is that we grow through tough times.
This is where we build our resilience.
This is where we build our strength.
(01:57):
This is where we learn to speak our voice.
Yeah, there's a few people in my liferight now that definitely are learning
to speak their truth right now, and uh,
they're incredibly inspiring to me.
(02:17):
And I understand how scary it is,
but the truth is we have to comeinto a point in this life where
we put ourselves above all,
and that doesn't mean we won't be therefor some other person when they need it.
It just means the only way you can cometo help is by filling your cup first.
(02:45):
When you're full to the top, thenfrom a space there, then you can help.
And the truth is, thesetimes are not easy.
(03:05):
And the things we need to do for ourfriends and the people in our lives when
they're going through this time because.
You know, sometimes we don'tknow what to say, and I get that.
I think I've found the most comfortingthings you can say is, first off,
I care.
Okay, I really do, and I'm right here.
(03:30):
And second off, you're not alone.
Now,
if somebody's in a real crisis.
It's probably a good timeto ask if they're depressed.
And it's probably also a good I idea toask if they're thinking about self harm
(03:55):
or if they, you know, have havesuicidal thoughts or ideation
and if they do get them help.
You know, when somebody comes into mewhere I'm worried like that, I always
tell them, like literally I. You know, ifthis gets too much, contact me 24 7 365.
(04:18):
I don't care.
Just reach out.
Promise me you'll reach out.
'cause I don't want to lose you.
You're an amazing human being.
I need you in my life.
The world needs you in this space.
(04:39):
If you have thoughts of this, sometimesI, I would love for you to remember
the incredible important fact thatso many times people make a permanent
decision off a temporary issue.
'cause the truth is, whateveryou're going through in this
lifetime, this too will pass.
(05:02):
And if you think of it, you go backthrough life, every single thing
you've ever been through in thisentire life that's now in the past,
there's always been a solution.
And if you really get honest with thefact that the solution was probably so
much better than you thought it wouldbe when you were sitting in the problem.
(05:24):
So one of the questions you canask yourself when you're going
through a really tough time.
Is, how is this differentthan any other problem?
And you'll probably find it's not,
and you'll probably find thatyes, it will have a solution
if it's really tough.
(05:44):
Hang on for one hour.
Hang on for one day.
Hang on for one week.
If you're actually in my life and youfeel comfortable sharing what you're
going through, share it with me.
Okay?
And I will listen when you'reworking, when you're with somebody.
(06:04):
If you work with people in pain,they're having a tough time.
Really hear them listen,
validate their pain,
validate that it's okay tofeel like you feel right now.
It's okay.
(06:25):
You don't have to tell 'em it's gonnabe okay or bucket up camp or anything.
Maybe there's, there's some momentswhen you just need to be there.
Hold space, bear witness,and let them know you care
and, and don't give themplatitudes or anything.
You can say,
(06:47):
I will be right here inthe darkness with you.
Through this
and then when the light comesback, I'll still be here with you.
'cause I'm not going anywhere.
(07:09):
Darkness is hard.
Okay?
Tough moments are hard.
Standing up for what you believein speaking your truth is hard.
But in the end, when you do, you'llprobably find that it doesn't go as bad
(07:29):
as you thought, and maybe it goes reallywell, and sometimes some people won't be
able to understand you, and that's okay.
Lean into the people who do get you.
Trust that you know what's right for you.
(07:52):
Stands strong in your conviction.
Step back if you need to.
You know, stepping back is not quittingand the under the reason why some
people can't understand if you need tostep back and take a break that they.
Probably have this belief thatif they don't keep pushing,
(08:15):
they're not gonna ever make it.
And that's their belief.
And that's like, it'stheir language of love.
It's like life is tough.
You gotta push through and like,and when they say that, they're
saying, I love you and I want you tosucceed, and you need to push through.
They're just coming fromtheir point of view.
(08:40):
So if you can hear it as I love youand I want you to succeed, then it'll
soften the blow and you're gonnaknow the people who you're gonna be,
feel heard when you speak your truth.
So speak your truth there.
(09:01):
Lean into them, listen to them.
Life is about finding the space whereyou trust and know what you need for you.
And situations come up not as a punishmentor a deterrent from the life you want
(09:23):
to have, but as a lesson to learn
what you need.
To do, to say
like, a lot of people spend thislife trying to, you know, please
other people, and honestly,I'm not totally against that.
(09:49):
It's okay to make people happy.
That's like, that's kind of myfundamental nature of being is
I wanna make hap people happy.
I want to help people.
I want to be there for people.
It is just when, when that thatdecision, that way of being starts
to hurt you and starts to get younot doing the things you knew you
(10:12):
need to do to take care of yourself,that's when you have to adjust a bit.
You don't have to likewidely change everything.
You just have to have a slight adjustment.
You have to speak your truth.
You have to say, well.
I need a break right now, and takinga break doesn't mean I'm quitting.
(10:34):
I'm still completely committed to mydreams, and honestly, if you come to
me and you tell me that you need abreak right now, I'm like, okay, great.
That's, that's awesome.
But I'm still gonna believe that you'regonna achieve your goals and your dreams
because success life,everything is not linear.
(10:59):
It is really not, and literally goingthrough these tough things and speaking
your truth is actually what takesyou on the path towards that dream.
It's all on purpose.
It, it's all intentional.
It's all leading you tothe purpose of your life.
(11:21):
And if you sit and resist somethingover and over again, it's gonna
persist over and over again.
If you need to take a breath, if youneed to stop for a minute, if you need
to stop for a month, if you need tostop for a year, it doesn't change the
trajectory of your life in a negative way.
And it may just be exactly what you need,because as soon as you accept what's so.
(11:48):
Like, what, so what?
So I need to step back and the problemis what you need to step back from.
And if you're pushing through that problemover and over again, you're resisting
it, you, it persists and gets stronger.
And then when you accept thatI need to take a step back
(12:12):
and take a breath.
Then one of two things will happen.
Whatever problem you're feeling you neededto step back from either, once you accept
it, it's is it any longer a problem?
No, because you've done what you needed todo, so it's gonna disappear as a problem.
(12:35):
But sometimes when you actually acceptwhat's so, it disappears altogether.
Sometimes when you're led down thisside path or what feels like a side
path, which teach you, speak your truthand stand up for you, it's a lesson
that will, it will pay off in everysingle area of your life, in your
(12:58):
relationships, in your friendships,in your career, in your everything.
See.
I talk about this often,what you focus on expanse.
If you focus on what is theblessing in this lesson, what's
(13:19):
the blessing in the lesson,
you'll see it.
Okay?
But if you focus on, um, I'm quitting.
I can't do this, I'm not goodenough, you're gonna see it.
Because the brain can only seeso much going on around you
(13:42):
in your life at one moment.
So what you're focusing on, that'swhat your, your brain's gonna
see, even though everything elseis going on at the same time.
You know, anxiety, fear, worry,they're all little flags going.
(14:06):
Pay attention
and they keep on popping up untilthere comes a point where you have
to do something a lot of the time,
and that's okay.
'cause if the truth is this too will passwhen you're going through a hard time.
(14:31):
Hang on, you know.
Like I said before, if, if, if you'rein my life and let me know if you,
if you feel comfortable, if, ifyou don't feel comfortable, just,
just know that when you're withme and when, when I know you're
(14:51):
going through a tough time, that Iwill be thinking about you, okay?
Know that you're not alone in this world.
No matter how long you feel, you're not
know that you have a strength within you.
And if you take a look throughyour life, it's, it's interesting.
(15:14):
The strongest people I know are theones that feel like they're not strong
and they go through theseincredible, credible things,
and yet they still feellike they're not strong.
So there's a strength anda resilience within you.
And actually these tough timesare building the strength.
(15:35):
You know, if you're, if you wantto get strong in the gym, you, you,
you keep on lifting weights, right?
And there comes a, and ifyour, your purpose in this life
is to become really strong.
Maybe the lifting weights forstrength and resilience is hard times.
You go through and we start offwith smaller ones, and then as we're
(15:57):
pushing, the game becomes bigger.
So.
The, the hard times become bigger andyou're pushing, you're, you're working,
working through it, working throughit, and as you're working through it,
you're creating strength and resilience.
You know, the truth may be that if youtake a look at your life and you see how
(16:21):
big the problems you are going through oryou're, that are coming up against you.
That might have direct correlationto how big things you are here
to do in your life because
you're only given asmuch as you can handle.
(16:43):
And if you know as well as I've seenthis in my life so many times, when
it gets really tough, you gotta openyour eyes and look around 'cause
there's gonna be somebody or somethingthere to help you through that time.
There's gonna be support.
But the truth of somebody who has a lotof tough things is they are probably
(17:06):
here for huge, incredible things
and the strength they will be build inorder to do that massive thing they're
here to do will come because of thetough times, not in spite of them.
(17:27):
Challenges are not a punishment, a curse.
They're actually, when you're throughthem, not in the middle of them.
They're a gift.
But honestly, it's not a gift whenyou're in it and you don't have to
see the lesson when you're in it.
Sometimes when you're in it, youjust need to be okay and be in it.
(17:50):
And think about it like I used to thinkabout this when, when I was younger.
It's like
when you're as low as you canget when you're lying on your
back in a ditch in the darkness.
(18:11):
If you just open your eyes and look up,
you can see the stars.
And from that place on your backin a ditch, you'll realize that
any movement is improvement.
Anything you do when you're in thelowest place is an improvement.
(18:34):
It's more than you had.
Like I had times when I was so depressedthat I didn't even want to leave my house.
My place.
And sometimes I'd found the courageto get out and just go for a walk.
And maybe it was only likeI lived up at Westwood Lake.
Maybe it was just walk along thewalk over the beach and walk along
(18:55):
the beach and back in the rain.
But that was any movementas improvement for me.
So when you're going through toughtimes, it's okay to be where you are.
You know, remember.
Resistance causes persistence.
Acceptance causes disappearance.
(19:16):
If you need to let itout, then let it out.
Don't resist that
because each little bit you letout will release the pressure,
and over time as you let out, moreand more things will start to shift.
So if you're going through a toughtime, be okay being in a tough time.
(19:41):
It's okay.
I'm here right now.
Remind yourself you won't be here forever.
You know, if you're going through areally tough time and you come and see me,
or if you're in pain andyou come and see me, I will.
I'll validate your pain, I'llvalidate your feelings, but
(20:03):
it's okay to feel that way
now.
If you tell me a story like it'sgonna be this way forever, I won't
validate your story 'cause I don'tbelieve it because this too will pass.
Because I've been through too much inthis life to ever believe that anything's
permanent because everything shifts
(20:30):
and trust that when you're ina really, really tough moment.
Keep it in somewhere inthe back of your mind
that this will hold on, it's gonnapass, and then there's gonna be a time
when you're in a really great time andthe last thing I want you to ever do
(20:54):
is go, oh no, this is gonna end too.
Two,
treat your, treat yourtough times as okay.
This will pass.
Treat your great times bybecoming completely in the moment.
And enjoying every minute andreally feeling how good it
feels to be like good and okay.
(21:16):
Not because you're afraid it'll pass,but because if you don't really enjoy
the good times you're going and youspend this whole life of being afraid
that this too will pass in the goodtime moments, then you'll never
get to experience the really good.
So
(21:43):
the truth is no matterwhat you're going through,
this too will pass.
And if you ever come and see meand you can't see the bright side.
You can count on me to sitwith you in the darkness,
(22:06):
let you know I care
and remind you that you're not alone.
And even if I never meet you, I,
I am still sitting youwith you in the darkness
letting you know you're not alone.
(22:30):
And letting you know that I care.
Thank you for listening.
Thank you for listening to thisepisode of conversation with Kimen.
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and feel free to direct message me.
(22:54):
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Have an amazing day.
If you can't look on the bright side,
I will sit you with you in the darkness.
This is who I try to be in life whenpeople are having a tough moment.
You see, I understand.
The truth is I can't take your pain away.
(00:31):
But I can make sure you don'tfeel alone when you're in pain,
when you're in my presence.
I remember a close friend of mine,she was, was very wise way beyond
her years, and she was goingthrough this incredibly tough time
(00:53):
and.
And she was crying and I'm like, I wasgetting emotional and like, oh man, I
wish I could just take your pain away.
And she looked up at me with tears in hereyes and she said, don't take my pain.
I need my pain.
It makes me grow.
(01:15):
And that was an aha moment for me.
Because honestly, if you've beenin my space when you're hurting,
like you'll see that I justcan't, I don't want you to feel
that way.
If you are really, really upset,I just want to be there with you.
I want to care.
(01:35):
I wanna let you know you're not alone.
But I also understandthat the truth of life.
Is that we grow through tough times.
This is where we build our resilience.
This is where we build our strength.
(01:57):
This is where we learn to speak our voice.
Yeah, there's a few people in my liferight now that definitely are learning
to speak their truth right now, and uh,
they're incredibly inspiring to me.
(02:17):
And I understand how scary it is,
but the truth is we have to comeinto a point in this life where
we put ourselves above all,
and that doesn't mean we won't be therefor some other person when they need it.
It just means the only way you can cometo help is by filling your cup first.
(02:45):
When you're full to the top, thenfrom a space there, then you can help.
And the truth is, thesetimes are not easy.
(03:05):
And the things we need to do for ourfriends and the people in our lives when
they're going through this time because.
You know, sometimes we don'tknow what to say, and I get that.
I think I've found the most comfortingthings you can say is, first off,
I care.
Okay, I really do, and I'm right here.
(03:30):
And second off, you're not alone.
Now,
if somebody's in a real crisis.
It's probably a good timeto ask if they're depressed.
And it's probably also a good I idea toask if they're thinking about self harm
(03:55):
or if they, you know, have havesuicidal thoughts or ideation
and if they do get them help.
You know, when somebody comes into mewhere I'm worried like that, I always
tell them, like literally I. You know, ifthis gets too much, contact me 24 7 365.
(04:18):
I don't care.
Just reach out.
Promise me you'll reach out.
'cause I don't want to lose you.
You're an amazing human being.
I need you in my life.
The world needs you in this space.
(04:39):
If you have thoughts of this, sometimesI, I would love for you to remember
the incredible important fact thatso many times people make a permanent
decision off a temporary issue.
'cause the truth is, whateveryou're going through in this
lifetime, this too will pass.
(05:02):
And if you think of it, you go backthrough life, every single thing
you've ever been through in thisentire life that's now in the past,
there's always been a solution.
And if you really get honest with thefact that the solution was probably so
much better than you thought it wouldbe when you were sitting in the problem.
(05:24):
So one of the questions you canask yourself when you're going
through a really tough time.
Is, how is this differentthan any other problem?
And you'll probably find it's not,
and you'll probably find thatyes, it will have a solution
if it's really tough.
(05:44):
Hang on for one hour.
Hang on for one day.
Hang on for one week.
If you're actually in my life and youfeel comfortable sharing what you're
going through, share it with me.
Okay?
And I will listen when you'reworking, when you're with somebody.
(06:04):
If you work with people in pain,they're having a tough time.
Really hear them listen,
validate their pain,
validate that it's okay tofeel like you feel right now.
It's okay.
(06:25):
You don't have to tell 'em it's gonnabe okay or bucket up camp or anything.
Maybe there's, there's some momentswhen you just need to be there.
Hold space, bear witness,and let them know you care
and, and don't give themplatitudes or anything.
You can say,
(06:47):
I will be right here inthe darkness with you.
Through this
and then when the light comesback, I'll still be here with you.
'cause I'm not going anywhere.
(07:09):
Darkness is hard.
Okay?
Tough moments are hard.
Standing up for what you believein speaking your truth is hard.
But in the end, when you do, you'llprobably find that it doesn't go as bad
(07:29):
as you thought, and maybe it goes reallywell, and sometimes some people won't be
able to understand you, and that's okay.
Lean into the people who do get you.
Trust that you know what's right for you.
(07:52):
Stands strong in your conviction.
Step back if you need to.
You know, stepping back is not quittingand the under the reason why some
people can't understand if you need tostep back and take a break that they.
Probably have this belief thatif they don't keep pushing,
(08:15):
they're not gonna ever make it.
And that's their belief.
And that's like, it'stheir language of love.
It's like life is tough.
You gotta push through and like,and when they say that, they're
saying, I love you and I want you tosucceed, and you need to push through.
They're just coming fromtheir point of view.
(08:40):
So if you can hear it as I love youand I want you to succeed, then it'll
soften the blow and you're gonnaknow the people who you're gonna be,
feel heard when you speak your truth.
So speak your truth there.
(09:01):
Lean into them, listen to them.
Life is about finding the space whereyou trust and know what you need for you.
And situations come up not as a punishmentor a deterrent from the life you want
(09:23):
to have, but as a lesson to learn
what you need.
To do, to say
like, a lot of people spend thislife trying to, you know, please
other people, and honestly,I'm not totally against that.
(09:49):
It's okay to make people happy.
That's like, that's kind of myfundamental nature of being is
I wanna make hap people happy.
I want to help people.
I want to be there for people.
It is just when, when that thatdecision, that way of being starts
to hurt you and starts to get younot doing the things you knew you
(10:12):
need to do to take care of yourself,that's when you have to adjust a bit.
You don't have to likewidely change everything.
You just have to have a slight adjustment.
You have to speak your truth.
You have to say, well.
I need a break right now, and takinga break doesn't mean I'm quitting.
(10:34):
I'm still completely committed to mydreams, and honestly, if you come to
me and you tell me that you need abreak right now, I'm like, okay, great.
That's, that's awesome.
But I'm still gonna believe that you'regonna achieve your goals and your dreams
because success life,everything is not linear.
(10:59):
It is really not, and literally goingthrough these tough things and speaking
your truth is actually what takesyou on the path towards that dream.
It's all on purpose.
It, it's all intentional.
It's all leading you tothe purpose of your life.
(11:21):
And if you sit and resist somethingover and over again, it's gonna
persist over and over again.
If you need to take a breath, if youneed to stop for a minute, if you need
to stop for a month, if you need tostop for a year, it doesn't change the
trajectory of your life in a negative way.
And it may just be exactly what you need,because as soon as you accept what's so.
(11:48):
Like, what, so what?
So I need to step back and the problemis what you need to step back from.
And if you're pushing through that problemover and over again, you're resisting
it, you, it persists and gets stronger.
And then when you accept thatI need to take a step back
(12:12):
and take a breath.
Then one of two things will happen.
Whatever problem you're feeling you neededto step back from either, once you accept
it, it's is it any longer a problem?
No, because you've done what you needed todo, so it's gonna disappear as a problem.
(12:35):
But sometimes when you actually acceptwhat's so, it disappears altogether.
Sometimes when you're led down thisside path or what feels like a side
path, which teach you, speak your truthand stand up for you, it's a lesson
that will, it will pay off in everysingle area of your life, in your
(12:58):
relationships, in your friendships,in your career, in your everything.
See.
I talk about this often,what you focus on expanse.
If you focus on what is theblessing in this lesson, what's
(13:19):
the blessing in the lesson,
you'll see it.
Okay?
But if you focus on, um, I'm quitting.
I can't do this, I'm not goodenough, you're gonna see it.
Because the brain can only seeso much going on around you
(13:42):
in your life at one moment.
So what you're focusing on, that'swhat your, your brain's gonna
see, even though everything elseis going on at the same time.
You know, anxiety, fear, worry,they're all little flags going.
(14:06):
Pay attention
and they keep on popping up untilthere comes a point where you have
to do something a lot of the time,
and that's okay.
'cause if the truth is this too will passwhen you're going through a hard time.
(14:31):
Hang on, you know.
Like I said before, if, if, if you'rein my life and let me know if you,
if you feel comfortable, if, ifyou don't feel comfortable, just,
just know that when you're withme and when, when I know you're
(14:51):
going through a tough time, that Iwill be thinking about you, okay?
Know that you're not alone in this world.
No matter how long you feel, you're not
know that you have a strength within you.
And if you take a look throughyour life, it's, it's interesting.
(15:14):
The strongest people I know are theones that feel like they're not strong
and they go through theseincredible, credible things,
and yet they still feellike they're not strong.
So there's a strength anda resilience within you.
And actually these tough timesare building the strength.
(15:35):
You know, if you're, if you wantto get strong in the gym, you, you,
you keep on lifting weights, right?
And there comes a, and ifyour, your purpose in this life
is to become really strong.
Maybe the lifting weights forstrength and resilience is hard times.
You go through and we start offwith smaller ones, and then as we're
(15:57):
pushing, the game becomes bigger.
So.
The, the hard times become bigger andyou're pushing, you're, you're working,
working through it, working throughit, and as you're working through it,
you're creating strength and resilience.
You know, the truth may be that if youtake a look at your life and you see how
(16:21):
big the problems you are going through oryou're, that are coming up against you.
That might have direct correlationto how big things you are here
to do in your life because
you're only given asmuch as you can handle.
(16:43):
And if you know as well as I've seenthis in my life so many times, when
it gets really tough, you gotta openyour eyes and look around 'cause
there's gonna be somebody or somethingthere to help you through that time.
There's gonna be support.
But the truth of somebody who has a lotof tough things is they are probably
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here for huge, incredible things
and the strength they will be build inorder to do that massive thing they're
here to do will come because of thetough times, not in spite of them.
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Challenges are not a punishment, a curse.
They're actually, when you're throughthem, not in the middle of them.
They're a gift.
But honestly, it's not a gift whenyou're in it and you don't have to
see the lesson when you're in it.
Sometimes when you're in it, youjust need to be okay and be in it.
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And think about it like I used to thinkabout this when, when I was younger.
It's like
when you're as low as you canget when you're lying on your
back in a ditch in the darkness.
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If you just open your eyes and look up,
you can see the stars.
And from that place on your backin a ditch, you'll realize that
any movement is improvement.
Anything you do when you're in thelowest place is an improvement.
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It's more than you had.
Like I had times when I was so depressedthat I didn't even want to leave my house.
My place.
And sometimes I'd found the courageto get out and just go for a walk.
And maybe it was only likeI lived up at Westwood Lake.
Maybe it was just walk along thewalk over the beach and walk along
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the beach and back in the rain.
But that was any movementas improvement for me.
So when you're going through toughtimes, it's okay to be where you are.
You know, remember.
Resistance causes persistence.
Acceptance causes disappearance.
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If you need to let itout, then let it out.
Don't resist that
because each little bit you letout will release the pressure,
and over time as you let out, moreand more things will start to shift.
So if you're going through a toughtime, be okay being in a tough time.
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It's okay.
I'm here right now.
Remind yourself you won't be here forever.
You know, if you're going through areally tough time and you come and see me,
or if you're in pain andyou come and see me, I will.
I'll validate your pain, I'llvalidate your feelings, but
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it's okay to feel that way
now.
If you tell me a story like it'sgonna be this way forever, I won't
validate your story 'cause I don'tbelieve it because this too will pass.
Because I've been through too much inthis life to ever believe that anything's
permanent because everything shifts
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and trust that when you're ina really, really tough moment.
Keep it in somewhere inthe back of your mind
that this will hold on, it's gonnapass, and then there's gonna be a time
when you're in a really great time andthe last thing I want you to ever do
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is go, oh no, this is gonna end too.
Two,
treat your, treat yourtough times as okay.
This will pass.
Treat your great times bybecoming completely in the moment.
And enjoying every minute andreally feeling how good it
feels to be like good and okay.
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Not because you're afraid it'll pass,but because if you don't really enjoy
the good times you're going and youspend this whole life of being afraid
that this too will pass in the goodtime moments, then you'll never
get to experience the really good.
So
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the truth is no matterwhat you're going through,
this too will pass.
And if you ever come and see meand you can't see the bright side.
You can count on me to sitwith you in the darkness,
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let you know I care
and remind you that you're not alone.
And even if I never meet you, I,
I am still sitting youwith you in the darkness
letting you know you're not alone.
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And letting you know that I care.
Thank you for listening.
Thank you for listening to thisepisode of conversation with Kimen.
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