June 11, 2024 • 60 mins
In this eye-opening episode of "The Dark Side of the Rainbow," host Robert Wallace sits down with Jacob Chansley, a renowned American patriot, to discuss the controversial topic of the LGBTQIA+ agenda's impact on children. They delve into the radical transgender movement's infiltration into various aspects of life, particularly focusing on the effects of this ideology on impressionable young minds.
Jake shares profound insights from the Native American tradition, emphasizing the importance of considering the long-term consequences of societal decisions. He raises critical questions about the implications of exposing children to gender fluidity concepts, hormone blockers, and gender reassignment surgeries.
Robert and Jacob also explore the broader societal and political ramifications, touching on how these issues are part of a larger agenda aimed at destabilizing the family unit and eroding common sense and decency. They discuss the role of pharmaceutical companies, social media and the educational system in perpetuating these ideologies.
Join us for a thought-provoking conversation that challenges the mainstream narrative and advocates for protecting the innocence of children. This episode is a must-listen for anyone concerned about the future of our society and the well-being of the next generation.
For more information and to support the cause, visit GaysAgainstGroomers.com and pre-order a copy of our new book, The Gender Trap: The Trans Agenda's War Against Children, at TheGenderTrap.com
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Music.
Welcome to the Dark Side of the Rainbow. This is your host, Robert Wallace,
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and this is a Gaze Against Rumors production.
Today, we're going to be speaking with Jake Chansley, and he's well-known for
many things, including being a great American patriot.
Some might even call him a hero, and he's also a very spiritual,
philosophical guy, which will become clear in our discussion.
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But today we're going to be talking about the onslaught of the LGBTQIA plus
agenda on the children and what that is going to do to future generations.
So let's welcome Jake. How are you doing?
I'm doing very well. I'm glad to be here. Thank you for having me.
It's a pleasure to have you.
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So I want to ask you, you're very involved in the sociopolitical realms of society
and that whole conversation.
And of course, you're seeing what's happening with kids in schools who are innocent
about being bombarded with this material.
What do you think is maybe the end goal or going to be the end result of the
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type of propaganda they're confronted with?
Well, I think it's going to be the destruction of of as many innocent and,
shall we say, impressionable lives as possible.
In the Native American tradition, whenever they come to a crossroads as a society
or as a tribe, they ask themselves, how will this decision now affect seven generations away?
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So if they believe that it will be detrimental.
Two, seven generations away, they will not do it, no matter how convenient that it is.
A good example would be they used to run herds of buffalo off of a canyon or
off of a cliff into a canyon.
And then that was how they hunted. But what they came to find was at the bottom
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of the canyon, there were young buffalo, there were old buffalo,
there were pregnant mother buffalo, there were infant buffalo.
And they asked themselves, if we keep doing this, what's going to happen to
the children seven generations away?
The answer is they're not going to have buffalo to hunt because they're killing
off the young and the pregnant mothers. Right.
So they decided to do the more dangerous thing, which was get on their horse
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and ride alongside the buffalo as they were stampeding.
And they would pick out of the herd the buffalo that had the gray in their fur.
So they had lived a long life. Right. That being said, if we ask ourselves,
what will be the effects on children seven generations away if we are telling
children, impressionable young minds,
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that there's more than one gender, that it's okay if the boys use the girl's
restroom because they're, quote unquote, non-binary?
What is going to happen to our children if all of the entertainment that they
consume are reinforcing this garbage that they're seeing in schools?
What is going to happen to their children if they have any,
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especially if you get into the way that hormone blockers and stuff like that,
these blockers are actually given to like pedophiles is like castration,
like chemical castration drugs.
If we start introducing those chemicals into these children's lives at an early
age, what effect is that going to have seven generations away? way.
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You know, I'm glad that you went right for the jugular on that. That's one of my.
Favorite questions, because that is one of the scariest things to think about.
What is it going to look like in 20, 30, 40 years down the road if we already
have kids with litter boxes in the classroom right now?
You know, it's so crazy to think this is actually happening,
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that the reins of common sense and decency are so far removed that this is actually,
you know, not just like anecdotally happening, but we're seeing it happening
literally all over the entire country.
Small towns and schools all over relatives that
i talk to friends that are in obscure little areas they
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have these things with their children confronting other kids
like this so you know a time will come when these kids will you know would if
they weren't being influenced they would like grow out of these things right
but they don't have a chance because like you said they're put immediately on
puberty blockers hormone replacement therapy the testosterone and estrogen
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and ultimately they're led, the majority of them, into actual gender reassignment surgery.
And one thing that I think it's interesting, and I want to know what your feeling
is on this, they say trans or die, right?
Do you want a dead son or a living daughter?
Okay. They say your child's going to commit suicide if you don't let them trans.
But what we actually see is the suicide rate actually goes up by three times.
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It goes up from 1% to just over 3% after transitioning.
So how are we going to like end that lie?
I think what it comes down to is individuals that are detransitioning,
shall we say, or basically coming to grips with reality, coming out and talking about it.
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Like Chloe Cole, I actually spoke with her at length about some of this stuff, as well as Lauren.
I've also spoken with Matt, or now Matt prefers to go by Amy, her real name, and Jude.
I've spoken with a lot of people that have basically clearly expressed that
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what the doctors and the pharmaceutical companies did, did not help them.
And how are you going to call somebody that tried transitioning a transphobe? Right. Right.
I think making, giving these people a big enough mic and allowing them the same
kind of, it's like, okay, if you're going to indoctrinate kids in school with
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this stuff, then you at least have to give the other side an opportunity to tell them their story.
You can't just have it all be one-sided, you know, and it's,
this stuff shouldn't be in schools in the first place.
People can produce whatever kind of entertainment they want,
but DEI and ESG are actually forcing this ideology onto the public through entertainment,
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through education, through the corporate world, all of this stuff,
certain standards in the workplace,
the bathroom issue.
What's interesting, though, also is that this whole notion about trans or die,
actually what's happening is, first of all, a lot of these people that are transitioning
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are coming to find that there are way, way, way more complications than they
were allowed to believe or even told about.
That's number one. And these complications, number two, can make life extremely miserable.
And they don't allow these individuals to come forward and say about how much
they regret doing these surgeries.
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Number three, those people end up killing themselves a lot of the time.
Because now not only is their body all mutilated and they can't go back to the
way that it was, but they're also on these drugs that literally alter their
brain and body chemistry in a way that is completely unnatural.
So I looked into the shamanic tradition regarding this notion of transgender
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people in general and this idea of the Native American tradition of like two spirits, right? Right.
And what I came to find is that, first of all, this notion of men transitioning
or, because that's not even so much the word, men dressing as women and becoming
more feminine, like, you know, in that area,
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that is actually somewhat common, especially like in the Philippines,
you know, certain Asian countries.
Also, it's somewhat in the Native American tradition. That's why they have,
you know, this notion of two spirits, right? Right.
But what is extremely extreme, it's not even uncommon, it's not present at all,
is the ludicrous notion of telling these individuals they were born in the wrong body.
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In particular, like, for example, with the Native American tradition,
the shaman would never tell this person who is feeling the two spirits experience
they were born in the wrong body. It's actually quite the opposite.
The shaman says, no, you were born in the right body. You were born in a special
way because you have a male body, but you have a female spirit.
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Now you have this beautiful opportunity to see life from these different perspectives or vice versa.
You're a female, you know, and you have a male spirit or whatever.
Some of these people are just gay. You know, very few of them have gender dysphoria
or body dysphoria or whatever.
But the shaman is supposed to help them navigate that process.
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And the shaman is not telling them they're born in the wrong body and that they
should come back for an appointment because they're going to lop off their genitals
and then, here, take these drugs that I made.
None of that is in the two-spirit tradition at all.
It's actually the antithesis of the two-spirit tradition.
You see what I'm saying? So this isn't, they're trying to say,
oh, well, then people have been doing this for thousands of years. No, they haven't.
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No, they haven't. What you're doing is actually the antithesis of what has been
done for thousands of years. Does that make sense? Yeah.
You know, there's also, you know, as long as we're talking about this kind of
esoteric approach to the matter, there's an understanding that amongst the spiritual
scientists that every physical body has an etheric body component,
which is always of the opposite gender of the physical.
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So if you're a man, you have a feminine etheric body. And if you're a woman,
you have a masculine or male etheric body.
And so, I mean, that would account for the sense of duality within us.
And then, like you were saying, the majority of these individuals are,
well, they're on the autism spectrum.
The majority of them are gay in the end.
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Not all of them. Sometimes they're straight and they have that gender dysphoria,
body dysmorphia condition.
But what do you think in terms of getting people into a space where they're accepting,
because they're very contradictory when they say my outside physical gender
does not determine my true sex or my true gender, but then they need to actually
adjust their physical gender in order to affirm it. So that's very contradictory.
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So how can we get these people to a place where it's like, okay,
well, you know, perhaps there's something psychologically or spiritually happening
to you that's causing you to sense this duality.
You can love your body, accept yourself as you are, as that type of person without
having to actually physically make that transition?
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Well, I think that we have to start with the effects of things like vaccines,
as well as things like atrazine that's in the water, because atrazine has been
known to affect hormones and hormone levels and stuff like that.
And that's not a conspiracy theory.
No, that's real. It's a proven fact. A lot of people are not aware. Yeah.
And there's exponentially more and more amounts of atrazine in the water.
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You know what I'm saying?
And there's other things, too. You know, there's other things like whether or
not people realize that pharmaceutical drugs are what are called forever chemicals
or anthropogenic chemicals.
They bioaccumulate in the water. water so if you
got a mental institution in your city then their
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urine and feces is going in the water supply which means that those chemicals
are essentially going into the water supply so there's also the effects of petroleum
compounds plastics and stuff like the bpas the list goes on and on and on glyphosate
so people's body chemistries are being messed with that's pretty much that there.
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But then they're also being surrounded with this ideological garbage.
Now, how does that play into your question?
When it comes right down to it, the notion of if physical genital,
if your genitals don't affirm your gender, then how does removing them affirm it? Right?
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Or if genitals don't matter when it comes to gender, then how is it that removing
it somehow affirms your next gender.
There's no logic to their argument, which is why they scream at you and interrupt
you and try and talk you down from your position.
It's why the cancel culture is so strong, because there is no logic to it.
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There is no logic to it. It's actually an extremely illogical point of view.
And it's all based on quote unquote feelings.
But even then, it's not so much based on feelings because if the pharmaceutical
companies weren't making lifelong
profits for as long as this person was going through this process,
then I guarantee you it wouldn't be everywhere the way that it is.
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When pharmaceutical companies hear all this stuff, now, I want you to think about this.
I'm kind of all over the place, but you got a child, an impressionably young
child that is hearing in their schools that they can be more than one gender.
They notice that people that claim to be more than one gender have looser rules
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or get more attention, right?
Then they see it also in entertainment, right?
And so you have all of these different social areas
of children's lives and an authority figure the
teacher or the principal or whatever telling them
something now if that child is growing up in a home where there's a lot of fighting
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or the parent is not there all the time or one parent's gone and the other parent
works a lot or whatever and they want attention they're going to do or say whatever
they can to get that attention.
Anybody that has children knows
that when you don't give your kids enough attention, they act out, right?
So if you think about it in that regard, you got these impressionable young
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kids because the family unit is destroyed.
It is under attack. The family unit is under attack.
So you got a whole portion of the population where kids are confused and lost
because the family unit isn't functioning the way that it should be, right? Right.
Then you have them going to a government school and their authority figure, their teacher,
is telling them that that this confusion that they're feeling may be because
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they're born in the wrong body and that they may be non-binary or transgender or whatever.
Then they go and they talk to the school counselor and they're not talking so
much about the issues they're having at home and the confusion they're talking
about. about, well, maybe I'm confused because I heard my teacher say,
blah, blah, blah, blah, transgender, non-binary.
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And the counselor says, well, we don't have to tell your parents.
And then they put them right into the medical system.
And now this kid who is just confused because the home life is destabilized
and the family unit is destroyed is now being led down this path of permanent
Permanent disfiguration,
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permanent altering of their brain and body chemistry.
Also, the pharmaceutical companies can make money not to actually help the child. Right.
And then once they go down that path and let's say, for example,
they come into their own and they become stronger and they grow out of it.
But now they have this permanent decision that they made when they were 12 years
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old and really impressionable or 14 or 15 or whatever.
Now they're 18 or 20. And they're like, this isn't me.
I don't like this. This doesn't make sense. It was just a phase. I was confused.
But the pharmaceutical companies wanted that money. And the school wanted the
virtue signaling that they were doing what the government or ESG school told them to. Right. Right.
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Then they come to find out, these children that later often become adults,
come to find out that there is no off-ramp.
This is a one-way road. The pharmaceutical companies are not planning on letting
you just easily get off this stuff. They don't have a plan for that.
They don't have a plan for detransitioning. They don't have a plan for reversing
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the surgery once it's done. Right.
Man, you covered so much ground there. And I think you really painted that picture.
There's a 360 spherical assault coming out of the kids, whether it's biologically,
like through what is in the water, the chemicals that we all are exposed to,
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whether it is perhaps they came up in a fatherless home or a broken home,
or there was some dynamic there that had its results.
Whether it's the onslaught of the gender affirming care model that we see the
doctors and the psychologists and the counselors and everybody needing to embrace,
or we're talking about the propaganda coming through SEL, DEI,
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or any number of these other sort of processes built to create greater diversity and inclusion.
And so you really don't have a chance to escape from it. And like Like you said, there is no off ramp.
The plan is you start the puberty blockers, then you move to the hormone replacement therapy.
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So if you're a boy, you start taking on the estrogen and vice versa.
If you're a girl, you start taking on that testosterone and then you're ultimately
prepared to make that final leap.
But nowhere in the process are you expected to like wake up and say,
oh, you know, I made a mistake.
And you can only really do that through, you know, usually most of this is solved
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through going through puberty. But you had blocked that.
You know, we have the next generation is going to be, I mean,
it's already terrible, right?
We've got full grown men who are in the thirties and forties,
let alone the kids who are running around in furry costumes.
We've got college professors. You saw that recently, right? College professors
wearing this saber tooth tiger outfit.
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It's a cool outfit. It really is. It just should not be.
Why are we being educated by a guy in a saber tooth? I mean, yeah, context people.
So where does this kind of go in terms of we have kids who have lost their body
parts and they are waking up to the fact that there was malpractice played.
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And now it looks like more and more organizations are beginning to lose their
legal footing, especially with the WPATH files coming out, showing that it's all a lie.
Where do you think or how do you think parents need to start to stand up and
speak back against the lies in order to protect themselves,
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in order to get some remuneration or some reparations for what's already happened to these lost souls?
Well, unfortunately, in places like Canada, if you don't affirm your child's
choice to be transgender or one parent's choice to transition the kid,
basically, then you can have your kids taken away.
And they're actually doing something similar in California, from what I understand.
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I think that there's a lot of headway that's being made. There's a lot of people
that, like Chloe Cole is a good example, or Amy,
or Lauren, all of whom were at AmFest, and I actually met and had conversations
with, that can act as the other side.
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You know, the parents can say, okay, well, instead of like trying to combat
them. Because anytime you tell your kid, no, they want to even more, right?
Instead of doing that, it could be more so like, okay, well,
this person right here, they transitioned and now this is where they were thinking.
Have you seen this? Do you know who this is? No, no, I will check it out.
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Tell me what you think, right? And then the thing is that if you do it on their
device, their laptop or their phone, then the algorithm will start factoring
in those videos into the system.
And that's something that we kind of failed to mention earlier was that social
media and the algorithms and stuff, when these kids go down these transgender
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rabbit holes, they just keep being fed this echo chamber bullshit.
You know what I'm saying? So, oh, it's radio. I'm so sorry.
Anyway, they just keep being fed this echo chamber jargon, this self-referential,
cyclical logic madness.
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So if you can kind of figure a way to get them out of that algorithmic rabbit
hole or that algorithmic echo chamber, rather, then you can have the other stuff
be factored in there, like Chloe Cole or something like that.
And then those will end up being voices of reason.
And another thing you could probably do is tell them, look.
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You want to wear those kind of clothes, okay, that's fine. But here's what we're going to do.
I want you to wait until you are 18.
You want to dress this way, you want to cut your hair, fine with me.
But when it comes to these permanent decisions that are going to affect you
the rest of your life, wait until you're 18.
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Then you can do whatever you want. But as of right now, while you're living
under my roof, you're not getting a tattoo, you're You're not drinking alcohol.
You're not smoking cigarettes. You're not getting put on hormone blockers.
And you're not doing reassignment surgery because these are all permanent decisions
that are going to affect you the rest of your life.
But Jake, someone might say, that is so transphobic.
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Don't you know that if the child goes through puberty, they might change their
mind and actually decide to turn their back on their true identity, a trans individual?
That is the argument that is being made right now is that if you don't put them
on puberty blockers while they're young or really like solidify them in their
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in their delusion, in their gender dysphoria, body dysmorphia,
then they are not going to adapt well into adulthood because now they've already
gone through the puberty of the wrong sex.
Hold on a second here, because I'm actually about to quote somebody that was
transitioning that I met while I was in prison.
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And I asked them, what do you think about all this stuff with these kids being
fed hormone blockers and, you know, all this stuff that's out there about,
you know, cutting kids genitals off and stuff like that?
That. First of all, physical bodies that are still developing should not have
permanent surgeries because their bodies are still growing.
If you're going to do something like that kind of a surgery,
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you want to wait until your body is done growing, right?
What this person said to me was that they believe that there's no such thing
as too late to transition, but there is such a thing as too early to transition.
And that's where my belief is at, where it's like, look, dude,
if you are an adult, well, I don't care what you want to do with your body.
As long as it doesn't involve children or unwilling participants,
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I don't care what your sexuality is.
I don't care what you do with your physical body.
You want to get ink injected to your eyes and horns grafted onto your head and
you want to get your teeth filed down to fangs and start calling yourself a
they or something. I don't care.
But the moment that you start preying on children, it becomes my problem and
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my responsibility to tell you, you know, no.
Not while I'm here. You are preying on innocence.
And as adults, it's our job to protect innocence.
So these people that say that these things are transphobic, what they're attempting
to do is beat people into submission with an ideological billy club.
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People don't want to be labeled racist or homophobic or transphobic or whatever.
They don't want to be hit by the cancel culture that this DEI,
you know, ESG system is behind.
So they acquiesce and they they submit.
Not me. I'm going to call a spade a spade. And the thing is,
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and I think this is really important as well to mention, is that,
look, Look, I have trans friends, male to female in particular.
I've had a number of trans friends that are male to female that have chosen to stay that way.
One chose to do the surgery. Another one didn't, right? One chose to get breast
implants and not do the bottom surgery.
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The other one chose to do both breast implants and bottom surgery.
And the thing is, and obviously I also have female to male transition friends
that have chosen actually to stop, you know? Some that have actually gone all
the way with it, as funny as that is.
I don't have a prejudice against them. I'm not transphobic. I want to protect children.
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That's really what it comes down to.
I used to work with kids in group homes. Did you know that? Yes, I did learn that.
But I know very little of that. I just know that one fact. Yeah,
I used to work with teen boys in group homes, and I worked in several different group homes.
In one of the group homes I worked in, they actually specialized in helping
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children who were molested and therefore ended up offending themselves.
You know, that they were sex offenders because they were molested themselves
by an adult, and then they molested somebody that was younger than them.
So I've seen the effects of what child predation does to children and what we
are witnessing with all of this trans garbage in schools or on TV or drag queen
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story hour or drag queen shows in front of little children,
which from what I've seen, there has been numerous of these quote unquote drag
queens that have either failed.
Already been arrested for sex offenses against children or have been since doing
all this been busted for sexual predation or child pornography or whatever.
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I want to protect children from those people. And the LGBT movement has been
hijacked by the pedophiles, the queer theory people,
which is just pedophilia in disguise, and the AI plus whatever,
they have ruined all of the progress that has been made both by the LGBT community and by society.
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Because the thing I told you about earlier about my friends that were the male
to female, all they want to do is blend in.
They don't want all these special privileges.
They're not out there with signs lines and purple hair screaming about their
rights. They just want to blend in society.
Most, if not all my homosexual friends just want to blend in.
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They just want to be accepted for who they are.
They don't want to be bothered about what they choose to do behind closed doors.
I'm fine with that. It's these weirdos that are out there that want to prey on kids.
They are the ones that are the activists. They are the ones that are attempting to create all
these labels so that they can go after people that are trying to cancel them
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from getting their hands on kids and then try and return the tables and say,
oh, no, you are this or that.
Does that make sense? Yeah, it absolutely does. You made a good point.
Hurt people hurt people.
And so that's what we have there. And then we also have this,
like you were just saying, the equating.
And this This is like, I think, the big issue right now, because,
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you know, acceptance of the gay community by the general populace is going down
and it's going down because they're looking at what's happening in the schools.
But it seems that the majority of the gays are standing around saying nothing.
That tacit agreement creates the appearance that the movement really does want this.
And so it does take those straight and gay and bi and anybody else that identify
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thinks they're somewhere in the spectrum to stand up against that.
And I think the real problem here is we have people who are intentionally conflating.
They're intentionally conflating trans and gay.
OK, so you're gay. You're attracted to a member of the opposite sex or you're trans.
You think you're in the wrong body. I mean, those are worlds apart.
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And as long as somebody thinks that by separating them, you're being transphobic.
I mean, what's really happening is we have a mental illness,
and I know people have different opinions.
People have always said gays are mentally ill or trans are mentally ill or whatever the case.
But if we're taking and we're saying, let's just like throw them all together and conflate the two.
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I mean, like you were saying, when we're talking about the Q of the LGBTQIA,
we're talking about in there is the MAPS, is the Minor Attracted People.
Pedophiles. A.K.A. Pedophiles. And so if- Spade to spade. I'm sorry.
Sorry, I don't know. It is what it is.
That's what we call it here. And so if we can't discern the differences between
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protecting kids and what they're calling transphobic behavior,
and we can't discern these queer identities with queer theory and its ends,
which are ultimately the incorporation and normalization of the minor attracted persons,
a.k.a. pedophiles. Thank you.
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Then we are in a situation where we can't call a spade a spade.
We can't address the problem.
And we are essentially neutered in our ability to protect kids.
Right. And that is the goal of all of this is to destroy the family unit and
make it to where the state controls the life of the child from birth to death.
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That's the goal. And to allow. And here's the thing.
And I only speak about all this stuff with pedophiles
infiltrating the LGBT movement and
ruining all their progress because pedophiles also tried to infiltrate and run
the Libertarian Party because they were trying to get all of these age of consent
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laws removed through the Libertarian movement,
through the Libertarian Party, trying to say that government shouldn't have
a say in children consent. to sex or not.
And there was enough libertarians that said, how about GFY, you know,
and GTFO, you know, STFU.
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I'm sorry if that is too much for radio. I tried to keep it, you know.
We're not censored here, luckily. Oh, thank God. Okay.
So, case in point, these people are going to try anything and everything that
they can. I mean, NAMBLA is a thing.
Right. They've been around for quite a while. What? When I found out that NAMBLA
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was real, I was mind blown.
And for those who don't know, NAMBLA is the National Association of Man Boy,
NAMBLA, NAMBLA Love Association.
Yeah, it's pedophilia, basically. Yeah, it's basically them lobbying for pedophilia.
Now, I'm of the belief that if you If you are willing to harm a child,
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you should be behind bars.
Like if you if you're if you are a person that there's like DNA evidence,
there's video evidence or there's like a unprovoked confession of sorts that you harmed a child.
Child, I think that should be the stuff where mandatory minimums are in place,
like 10 years minimum, if not 15, all depending on the age, you know,
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if not 30, all depending on the age.
There's some of these people that are raping toddlers or infants.
So that's something else that you have to consider is that they're incrementally
moving down in age with these kids, you know, of when and where they can't transition.
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Now they're trying to say that children can know that they're transgender while
in the womb. But here's the crazy part.
I thought that these lefties said that life didn't begin in the womb.
So if it's able to know that it's trans in the womb, then that means that it's alive.
It's not just a clump of cells, is it? So here's the thing about these people and their arguments.
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They're not logical. They are simply based on ideology, and their ideology is
one that has an agenda that is very, very nefarious.
And evil always lies because it knows that it can't come through the front door with the truth.
It has to come in through the back door with the lie.
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And that's how you get your, literally your nation or your home invaded by this
mind virus or these ideological monsters. Right.
Yeah, absolutely. I was just talking with Dr.
Alex Bileckian, who is running for California's congressional district number 30 there.
And he mentioned he was talking about Scott Weiner's proposition,
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which I had not put enough attention on, even though I was aware that Scott
Weiner is like, it got the spotlight on him for this very thing.
And he was telling a story.
It's like there is a law that says that should an adult rape or have vaginal
sex with a child who's 12 or 14 years old, that the judge can actually decide
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whether or not they are a sex offender.
It's not like an automatic thing. And so Scott Wiener said, hey,
let's keep a level for the gays.
And in this case, particularly his pedophilia tendencies or his sympathies towards such.
And he said, instead of putting men who sodomize young boys,
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putting them onto the sex offender registry, what if the judge decided,
you know, on a case by case basis for them, too?
And so So it's that little creeping compromise that is just working its way
in to normalize this behavior.
And they had to do it incrementally because they couldn't just go from zero to 100.
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They had to climb and climb and climb and eventually get to where it's at now.
And there is a significant amount of pushback. And they knew that there would
be. So that's why they come up with these instead of saying,
you know, you are pedophobic. No, you're transphobic.
You see, they're literally using these people and their plight like human shields for their agenda.
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It's a mask. It's a mask.
But it's the same ugly face behind the mask.
Every time they have to change their mask because they get discovered,
the mask gets thrown off and people realize what an ugly belief system it is
or what an ugly face it is that's behind this mask.
So that's why we just can't relent.
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And I think that at this point, because it's all based on a lie and it's all
largely rooted in evil, the political fallout that's coming from this, for example, Muslims.
Are so against all this stuff. And normally the Muslims were voting Democrat,
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but now the Muslims are noticing, wait a second, the Democrats are trying to
tell my kid that there's more than one gender and they're trying to like indoctrinate
them into this bizarre garbage.
No, no, you're not going to do that. And so now the Democrats are going to have
to either go after the Muslims and call them bigots and homophobes and all this other stuff,
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or they're going to have to, submit to their will as far as not doing this with their kids.
But then they're not going after the Muslims the same way they're going after the Christians.
Notice how the Democrats always go after the Christians, but the Muslims are saying the same thing.
So now you have Muslims and you have Christians coming together and saying,
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this is wacky. I'm not having my kids go to school here.
So it's actually creating unity where there was once division.
And in that sense, I mean, I mean, we were promised that Joe Biden was going
to unify the country. He unified everybody against him.
Yeah. Yeah. You saw the college campuses right now. We have the protesters for
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Palestine and those for Israel.
And there was a video that came out recently where one side is like F Joe Biden.
And then their opponent side, you know, the Jews are like F Joe Biden.
And then so it's like, oh, my gosh, it's like you brought them together,
you know. And that's the thing.
It's like, you know, just as a little footnote, whatever, Gays Against Rumors
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isn't a political organization.
But if you're following the pattern, if you're looking at what's happening,
there is absolutely something recognizable that's happening politically with
the positions that people are taking.
And there is a reason why there is this trend towards taking a more,
generally speaking, a conservative perspective on these things.
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But the fact of the matter is, it shouldn't be political.
Everybody from both sides should be able to agree.
But there is an unnatural polarization that is happening, and that's happening through the media.
We're being split up into this diametrically opposed dichotomy of these two
extremes so that we can't come together in the common sense issues like we did
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just five, six, seven years ago.
The landscape is so different that it's a different America.
We all have different social lives. We can't ignore that.
That's the elephant in the room. Now, what we're talking about here is psychological warfare.
And the use of what are called trigger
words and trigger images to neuro-linguistically program individuals.
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So neuro-linguistic programming, linguistics, words, designed to program or
create a pattern in the neurons in the brain.
In particular, the subconscious portion of the brain.
So when you combine a trigger word and a trigger image, for example,
trigger word meaning deadly virus, like with COVID, right?
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And then you show a picture or a bunch of numbers were going up and up and up
and you show people in hospital beds or people being wheeled in by ambulances and stuff like that.
Then that is a trigger word and a trigger images combined together to stimulate
an instinctual response in the subconscious portion of the brain.
And that subconscious conscious portion of the brain ends up controlling a person's
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conscious perception of reality.
So now let's graft this with what's going on with the trans LGBT community.
You have trigger words and trigger images being combined together to,
and in our case, you have people that are quote unquote protesting for trans rights, right?
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Screaming or posting signs. And the news always tries to make the crowd look
bigger than it actually is, right?
Or they shine the spotlight on a small crowd and make it seem like it's much bigger.
And this is how everybody feels. And sometimes it's the opposite.
If they don't want to show the support that- Right. Exactly.
And sometimes it's the opposite. Like with Trump's rallies, they never want to show how big they are.
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Or with Joe Biden's rallies, they always try to make it look bigger than it is, you know?
So they create this illusion and then they use linguistics, transphobic.
Homophobic, bigot, racist.
And they try to combine all these things together so that if somebody is transphobic,
they're likely also a racist.
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They're also homophobic. You see what I'm saying?
And then And then they use those words to program the minds of the people in
this woke army to hate everybody that does not subscribe to their cancel culture, woke ideology.
And as funny as it is, it's also kind of the same thing on the other side.
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Now, I think that the other side has a lot more of a case to be upset, for sure.
You know, whether they be Christian or Muslims or just Americans that want freedom
and don't want their kids' bodies mutilated, they have more of a reason to be upset.
But the thing is, is that similarly to what's happening with the woke mob,
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you also have kind of like a conservative mob as well.
And this is where I don't know if you saw that thing recently is like a trend
where if you don't say Christ is king, you're not a real Christian or something
like that. Did you see that?
No, I didn't. Yeah, it was like this big.
What's that? I think actually I may have seen it, but I forgot.
But so, well, the point is, is that if you don't say what the mob wants you
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to say, then you're canceled amongst the mob.
So there are certain individuals that were these quote-unquote conservative
influencers that were like, well, why do I have to say Christ has came?
I mean, I love Jesus, but I'm not really like a quote-unquote Christian in that regard.
I'm more spiritual. Why do I have to say what you want me to say?
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And so, oh, well, you're not a real Christian, and we're not going to listen to you anymore.
So there is a cancel culture kind of on both sides.
But the only reason why it even exists in this way is because of like what you were saying.
Social media or the mockingbird media, as I like to call them,
the network news, they only showcase and spotlight the most extreme moments
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or elements of certain situations because they get the most attention.
And since our attention has been commoditized, since our attention has been
monetized, now they're going to do whatever they can to get something that gets
the highest amount of views. Controversy.
Fear of death, chaos, violence, disorder.
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Look, everybody's like, oh, well, did you did you see that? Everybody starts
talking about it and then they come back the next day to get the update.
You know, that reminds me exactly. You may have seen there was a whistleblower
and I wish I could give you his exact name in the context,
but he was working for the so-called deep state, you know, part of the government
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of the CIA that he had come out of.
And he revealed that part of of the mission or the agenda of the approach of
their department was to create this division.
And the way that they were doing it was to hone in on those most repulsive.
Disgusting aspects of each side.
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So, in other words, with the leftist progressive woke side, They're being shown
images and given narratives that the people on the right are racist and they're homophobic,
they're bigoted and all of these things that really like portray prejudice,
which, you know, to especially that side.
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I mean, we should all be disgusted by all of that.
Honestly, we should have open, loving hearts.
But in the context in which it's shown, it's creating a spiraling anger and upsurge.
And on that side, and then on the more conservative side, people are being shown
images of the most egregious things, including topics like what we're talking
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about, pedophilia and what's happening to children.
Now, and when we see that and we focus on that, it does seem to create this like this war.
Now, there is realities, though, here, you know, we could find honestly,
we can find racists on both sides and you can find pedophiles on both sides and you can.
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Particularly, you know, and this is one of the things that really kind of like
catalyzes this whole thing, that galvanizes this whole thing,
is that we are absolutely looking at the indoctrination,
sexualization and mutilation of children in schools,
on TV, social media being done in the name of the 2SLGBTQQIAA+.
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OK, that's queer and questioning.
I intersex, asexual and allies.
OK, that's pretty much everybody. And if you look at the progress flag that
includes black and brown people, it's pretty much everybody but the straight white man and woman.
And so there is a reality that is being fought.
But at the same time, there is a whole lot of anger mongering that's happening
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on either side that is creating a real like cutthroat environment right now in society.
And if we can't see outside of our silos, outside of our bubbles,
we won't realize just how much of our anger is being fermented by these narratives.
And unfortunately, even when we do become like I myself feel,
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you know, somewhat aware of a lot of these things I'm describing at the same
time, that doesn't make what I'm seeing,
particularly with the kids in schools and who is protecting and supporting and
propagating that politically or otherwise. It doesn't make it any easier.
It's not a delusion. It's not some imagination.
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But at any rate, if people don't understand how this narrative is kind of being
manipulated, they become kind of the useful idiots that go to war at the other side.
Absolutely. And most of this anger is manufactured.
It is generated and created by the social engineering machine, for sure.
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And keeping the human beings into compartmentalized and propagandized groups
of warring tribes is how you divide a nation and conquer it from within. in.
Now, when it comes to things like, you know, the division that is that most
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certainly should be there, like we are, I think everybody should be against pedophiles.
But like you said, there's Republicans and Democrats, both pedophiles. Yes, absolutely.
Believe it or not, they're oh, yes. How do you think they have the uniparty
in D.C. or all across the country?
We have to start being willing to call out, call a spade a spade,
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you know, political parties have absolutely destroyed this country.
And there's a reason why our founding fathers didn't like them.
I, a little bit of humor here. I saw this hilarious post on X or Twitter,
and it was, I think it was Blair White that said it.
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Are you familiar with Blair White? And it was a picture of the new version,
quote unquote, of the LGBTQAI plus flag with all of like this umbrella looking
thing and this, you know, arrow looking thing in this circle.
And I think what Blair said was something along the lines of,
you know, that the LGBTQ,
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you know, the LGBT movement has been hijacked because there's no way that homosexuals
would think that something like this looks good or they would never allow. No, no, honey.
Yeah. Like, no way. This isn't going to work. Is this hot mess?
Ugly. What are you doing? Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah.
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Anyway, I wanted to go in a certain direction with that because there's patterns that are recognized.
It's almost sigilistic with these things. You know, these symbols are very,
you know, in our face in this day and age.
And I'm not going to go there, but you've probably seen it on social media.
Follow Gays Against Groomers and other places on it. But there's definitely
many layers to this that show it is a top-down operation.
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This is not an organic thing. And I actually hit on this quite frequently because
I think people need to keep their eyes on the actual enemy here.
You know, sometimes, you know, we do think it's like, oh, it's the teacher who
just wants inclusiveness.
And sometimes, yeah, their ideology they've been indoctrinated with is the problem.
It's the problem of the day.
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But more so, it's where is this coming down?
How is this being cultivated into the training that's making its way and proliferating?
And that is coming right down from the World Economic Forum.
They have a whole division, which is dedicated to this, the D-E-I-C-R-T,
you know, ESG, et cetera, et cetera.
And all of that is creating the division.
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It's creating, or I was just talking with Nicole Solis, who's a mother who's
in the middle of suing a school board district in Rhode Island.
And she was talking about, what was it? Anyway, I forget. We'll cut that. Yeah.
You do so much introduction stuff. Yeah.
But anyway, this we got a top down operation and we all need to be aware that
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if we take our eyes off of where it's coming from, we're going to keep fighting
amongst ourselves. selves.
And what we need to be doing is making sure that all of our global governments
are not bending the knee to a one world order.
And that is where we're going to lose our values, our sovereignty, and we become the enemy.
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The traditional American who's holding these is becoming a bigoted enemy,
and that is going to keep happening until people say.
Look, these policies that are coming down is part of a global Marxist plot to
bring everybody together and to undermine the family unit.
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We're going to the wussification of our country. There's other variations of that.
And we are going to remove the father from the home through certain influences.
And we're going to get the women out to work. And we're going to get the kids in school.
And then we're going to indoctrinate them. And like the other things are saying,
and then we got the chemicals going, and then we got their social media coming at them.
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And it's a perfect storm for somebody that can't see this monstrous agenda.
It's such a big picture that it really will take you years and years,
even decades of study to more fully comprehend how huge of a war we're up against right now.
Well, Yuri Bezmenov talked to the ex-KGB operative in charge of psychological
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warfare and mind control, he defected the United States in the 80s.
And he talked about how it is that the United States schools,
colleges, K-12, also the United States entertainment, their politics,
their government, their news media, all of it had been infiltrated by communists.
And there was a very real, quote-unquote, global communist conspiracy that Yuri
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Bezmenov, those are his words, not mine, that he talked about.
And he said that The Soviet Union and this global communist conspiracy had an
agenda to destroy the United States from within.
And it was a part of a fourfold plan.
So after they had infiltrated these universities or the K through 12 or entertainment
or government or what have you, they would start to disseminate demoralizing
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propaganda to a whole generation of kids.
So he said that the demoralization element to this plan was going to take anywhere
from 15 to 20 years because you have to demoralize a whole generation of American youth.
And he was also saying that once the mind has been so heavily demoralized,
you can bring these people black and white information.
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You can bring them the documents, photographs.
You can bring them video footage of how communism is evil and how what they're
saying doesn't make sense and how all this is a propaganda and the demoralized
mind will not believe it.
Because it creates such a cognitive dissonance, the idea that they have been
lied to their whole lives and believed all these lies is too painful.
Then he said the next phase is destabilization,
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where these infiltrators in the system and the demoralized generation who have
been taught to hate their own country and want a communist government begin
to destabilize their own socioeconomic system,
their own geopolitical system in favor of communism.
And then once they have gotten to that second destabilization portion,
that takes about another couple of years.
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Then comes a third phase, which is crisis.
And that's where all of the destabilization of the socioeconomic geopolitical
system begin to erupt in catastrophe.
So the housing market collapses. The banks fail.
The inflation goes way, way up. People don't know what bathroom to use, et cetera, et cetera.
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People are having their kids taken away because they're not affirming their gender or whatever.
Those are the crisis. And then finally, there is the normalization.
That's the fourth phase. And that is where these infiltrators and these brainwashed
people in this generation end up hijacking or taking over the government.
And they create a communist government and they normalize the demoralizing propaganda.
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They normalize the destabilized system. They normalize these crises.
And then they promise to, quote unquote, fix them by creating this communist government.
So what we're looking at, like you said, is Marxism.
It's just Marxism with the mask of LGBT rights or with the mask of stopping
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racism, the mask of, you know, we're trying to create peace by going to war.
Yeah. I mean, these kids are coming out on,
the Maoist children who were completely brainwashed and propagating these beliefs
because they thought, and it's happening in colleges right now.
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James Lindsay talks a lot about that. He's featured in an upcoming film,
which is going to be out within the next couple of weeks that also I appeared
in on behalf of Gays Against Groomers called Beneath Sheep's Clothing.
Go to BeneathSheep'sClothing.movie, and that parallels how communism moved into
the USSR versus what's happening in America right now.
And you'll see that what we're dealing with at Gays Against Groomers is just
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one little facet of a much bigger scheme that's happening right now.
So let me ask you, do you have any last words before we end this episode on
the subject or warnings that you'd like to share?
I just want to say I love Gays Against Groomers.
You guys are doing a great job. And thank God there's people amongst your community
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that are standing up and saying, no, this is not okay.
These people over here, they don't speak for us.
We don't, we aren't for this. In fact, we are going to protect our,
you know, these children. We're going to protect the next generation.
So good on you guys. God bless you. Thank you for having me.
Support Gays Against Groomers. That's one thing I'll definitely say.
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I support them. I try to share everything I can that's on X or Twitter that I find.
You guys are doing a great job. I actually met your guys' founders at AmFest.
Great women, great women. So with all of that said, I love everybody.
I have no real prejudice whatsoever with the exception of pedophiles.
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Those are probably the only groups that are rapists, you know, that kind of stuff.
I just don't like, I don't want anything to do with it. But I have gay friends.
I've got trans friends on both sides of the spectrum. I have...
Friends that are black, white, gay, straight, Asian, Hispanic, whatever.
What matters most, you guys, is that we love thy neighbor as thyself.
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Simple as that. It's really not. I mean, it's a little bit of work sometimes
because people are different.
But if you have an open heart and an open mind, it's really not all that hard.
If you have liked what I've said here, is it cool if I plug my social media?
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Music.
Welcome to the Dark Side of the Rainbow. This is your host, Robert Wallace,
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and this is a Gaze Against Rumors production.
Today, we're going to be speaking with Jake Chansley, and he's well-known for
many things, including being a great American patriot.
Some might even call him a hero, and he's also a very spiritual,
philosophical guy, which will become clear in our discussion.
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But today we're going to be talking about the onslaught of the LGBTQIA plus
agenda on the children and what that is going to do to future generations.
So let's welcome Jake. How are you doing?
I'm doing very well. I'm glad to be here. Thank you for having me.
It's a pleasure to have you.
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So I want to ask you, you're very involved in the sociopolitical realms of society
and that whole conversation.
And of course, you're seeing what's happening with kids in schools who are innocent
about being bombarded with this material.
What do you think is maybe the end goal or going to be the end result of the
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type of propaganda they're confronted with?
Well, I think it's going to be the destruction of of as many innocent and,
shall we say, impressionable lives as possible.
In the Native American tradition, whenever they come to a crossroads as a society
or as a tribe, they ask themselves, how will this decision now affect seven generations away?
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So if they believe that it will be detrimental.
Two, seven generations away, they will not do it, no matter how convenient that it is.
A good example would be they used to run herds of buffalo off of a canyon or
off of a cliff into a canyon.
And then that was how they hunted. But what they came to find was at the bottom
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of the canyon, there were young buffalo, there were old buffalo,
there were pregnant mother buffalo, there were infant buffalo.
And they asked themselves, if we keep doing this, what's going to happen to
the children seven generations away?
The answer is they're not going to have buffalo to hunt because they're killing
off the young and the pregnant mothers. Right.
So they decided to do the more dangerous thing, which was get on their horse
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and ride alongside the buffalo as they were stampeding.
And they would pick out of the herd the buffalo that had the gray in their fur.
So they had lived a long life. Right. That being said, if we ask ourselves,
what will be the effects on children seven generations away if we are telling
children, impressionable young minds,
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that there's more than one gender, that it's okay if the boys use the girl's
restroom because they're, quote unquote, non-binary?
What is going to happen to our children if all of the entertainment that they
consume are reinforcing this garbage that they're seeing in schools?
What is going to happen to their children if they have any,
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especially if you get into the way that hormone blockers and stuff like that,
these blockers are actually given to like pedophiles is like castration,
like chemical castration drugs.
If we start introducing those chemicals into these children's lives at an early
age, what effect is that going to have seven generations away? way.
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You know, I'm glad that you went right for the jugular on that. That's one of my.
Favorite questions, because that is one of the scariest things to think about.
What is it going to look like in 20, 30, 40 years down the road if we already
have kids with litter boxes in the classroom right now?
You know, it's so crazy to think this is actually happening,
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that the reins of common sense and decency are so far removed that this is actually,
you know, not just like anecdotally happening, but we're seeing it happening
literally all over the entire country.
Small towns and schools all over relatives that
i talk to friends that are in obscure little areas they
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have these things with their children confronting other kids
like this so you know a time will come when these kids will you know would if
they weren't being influenced they would like grow out of these things right
but they don't have a chance because like you said they're put immediately on
puberty blockers hormone replacement therapy the testosterone and estrogen
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and ultimately they're led, the majority of them, into actual gender reassignment surgery.
And one thing that I think it's interesting, and I want to know what your feeling
is on this, they say trans or die, right?
Do you want a dead son or a living daughter?
Okay. They say your child's going to commit suicide if you don't let them trans.
But what we actually see is the suicide rate actually goes up by three times.
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It goes up from 1% to just over 3% after transitioning.
So how are we going to like end that lie?
I think what it comes down to is individuals that are detransitioning,
shall we say, or basically coming to grips with reality, coming out and talking about it.
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Like Chloe Cole, I actually spoke with her at length about some of this stuff, as well as Lauren.
I've also spoken with Matt, or now Matt prefers to go by Amy, her real name, and Jude.
I've spoken with a lot of people that have basically clearly expressed that
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what the doctors and the pharmaceutical companies did, did not help them.
And how are you going to call somebody that tried transitioning a transphobe? Right. Right.
I think making, giving these people a big enough mic and allowing them the same
kind of, it's like, okay, if you're going to indoctrinate kids in school with
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this stuff, then you at least have to give the other side an opportunity to tell them their story.
You can't just have it all be one-sided, you know, and it's,
this stuff shouldn't be in schools in the first place.
People can produce whatever kind of entertainment they want,
but DEI and ESG are actually forcing this ideology onto the public through entertainment,
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through education, through the corporate world, all of this stuff,
certain standards in the workplace,
the bathroom issue.
What's interesting, though, also is that this whole notion about trans or die,
actually what's happening is, first of all, a lot of these people that are transitioning
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are coming to find that there are way, way, way more complications than they
were allowed to believe or even told about.
That's number one. And these complications, number two, can make life extremely miserable.
And they don't allow these individuals to come forward and say about how much
they regret doing these surgeries.
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Number three, those people end up killing themselves a lot of the time.
Because now not only is their body all mutilated and they can't go back to the
way that it was, but they're also on these drugs that literally alter their
brain and body chemistry in a way that is completely unnatural.
So I looked into the shamanic tradition regarding this notion of transgender
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people in general and this idea of the Native American tradition of like two spirits, right? Right.
And what I came to find is that, first of all, this notion of men transitioning
or, because that's not even so much the word, men dressing as women and becoming
more feminine, like, you know, in that area,
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that is actually somewhat common, especially like in the Philippines,
you know, certain Asian countries.
Also, it's somewhat in the Native American tradition. That's why they have,
you know, this notion of two spirits, right? Right.
But what is extremely extreme, it's not even uncommon, it's not present at all,
is the ludicrous notion of telling these individuals they were born in the wrong body.
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In particular, like, for example, with the Native American tradition,
the shaman would never tell this person who is feeling the two spirits experience
they were born in the wrong body. It's actually quite the opposite.
The shaman says, no, you were born in the right body. You were born in a special
way because you have a male body, but you have a female spirit.
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Now you have this beautiful opportunity to see life from these different perspectives or vice versa.
You're a female, you know, and you have a male spirit or whatever.
Some of these people are just gay. You know, very few of them have gender dysphoria
or body dysphoria or whatever.
But the shaman is supposed to help them navigate that process.
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And the shaman is not telling them they're born in the wrong body and that they
should come back for an appointment because they're going to lop off their genitals
and then, here, take these drugs that I made.
None of that is in the two-spirit tradition at all.
It's actually the antithesis of the two-spirit tradition.
You see what I'm saying? So this isn't, they're trying to say,
oh, well, then people have been doing this for thousands of years. No, they haven't.
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No, they haven't. What you're doing is actually the antithesis of what has been
done for thousands of years. Does that make sense? Yeah.
You know, there's also, you know, as long as we're talking about this kind of
esoteric approach to the matter, there's an understanding that amongst the spiritual
scientists that every physical body has an etheric body component,
which is always of the opposite gender of the physical.
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So if you're a man, you have a feminine etheric body. And if you're a woman,
you have a masculine or male etheric body.
And so, I mean, that would account for the sense of duality within us.
And then, like you were saying, the majority of these individuals are,
well, they're on the autism spectrum.
The majority of them are gay in the end.
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Not all of them. Sometimes they're straight and they have that gender dysphoria,
body dysmorphia condition.
But what do you think in terms of getting people into a space where they're accepting,
because they're very contradictory when they say my outside physical gender
does not determine my true sex or my true gender, but then they need to actually
adjust their physical gender in order to affirm it. So that's very contradictory.
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So how can we get these people to a place where it's like, okay,
well, you know, perhaps there's something psychologically or spiritually happening
to you that's causing you to sense this duality.
You can love your body, accept yourself as you are, as that type of person without
having to actually physically make that transition?
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Well, I think that we have to start with the effects of things like vaccines,
as well as things like atrazine that's in the water, because atrazine has been
known to affect hormones and hormone levels and stuff like that.
And that's not a conspiracy theory.
No, that's real. It's a proven fact. A lot of people are not aware. Yeah.
And there's exponentially more and more amounts of atrazine in the water.
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You know what I'm saying?
And there's other things, too. You know, there's other things like whether or
not people realize that pharmaceutical drugs are what are called forever chemicals
or anthropogenic chemicals.
They bioaccumulate in the water. water so if you
got a mental institution in your city then their
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urine and feces is going in the water supply which means that those chemicals
are essentially going into the water supply so there's also the effects of petroleum
compounds plastics and stuff like the bpas the list goes on and on and on glyphosate
so people's body chemistries are being messed with that's pretty much that there.
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But then they're also being surrounded with this ideological garbage.
Now, how does that play into your question?
When it comes right down to it, the notion of if physical genital,
if your genitals don't affirm your gender, then how does removing them affirm it? Right?
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Or if genitals don't matter when it comes to gender, then how is it that removing
it somehow affirms your next gender.
There's no logic to their argument, which is why they scream at you and interrupt
you and try and talk you down from your position.
It's why the cancel culture is so strong, because there is no logic to it.
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There is no logic to it. It's actually an extremely illogical point of view.
And it's all based on quote unquote feelings.
But even then, it's not so much based on feelings because if the pharmaceutical
companies weren't making lifelong
profits for as long as this person was going through this process,
then I guarantee you it wouldn't be everywhere the way that it is.
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When pharmaceutical companies hear all this stuff, now, I want you to think about this.
I'm kind of all over the place, but you got a child, an impressionably young
child that is hearing in their schools that they can be more than one gender.
They notice that people that claim to be more than one gender have looser rules
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or get more attention, right?
Then they see it also in entertainment, right?
And so you have all of these different social areas
of children's lives and an authority figure the
teacher or the principal or whatever telling them
something now if that child is growing up in a home where there's a lot of fighting
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or the parent is not there all the time or one parent's gone and the other parent
works a lot or whatever and they want attention they're going to do or say whatever
they can to get that attention.
Anybody that has children knows
that when you don't give your kids enough attention, they act out, right?
So if you think about it in that regard, you got these impressionable young
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kids because the family unit is destroyed.
It is under attack. The family unit is under attack.
So you got a whole portion of the population where kids are confused and lost
because the family unit isn't functioning the way that it should be, right? Right.
Then you have them going to a government school and their authority figure, their teacher,
is telling them that that this confusion that they're feeling may be because
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they're born in the wrong body and that they may be non-binary or transgender or whatever.
Then they go and they talk to the school counselor and they're not talking so
much about the issues they're having at home and the confusion they're talking
about. about, well, maybe I'm confused because I heard my teacher say,
blah, blah, blah, blah, transgender, non-binary.
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And the counselor says, well, we don't have to tell your parents.
And then they put them right into the medical system.
And now this kid who is just confused because the home life is destabilized
and the family unit is destroyed is now being led down this path of permanent
Permanent disfiguration,
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permanent altering of their brain and body chemistry.
Also, the pharmaceutical companies can make money not to actually help the child. Right.
And then once they go down that path and let's say, for example,
they come into their own and they become stronger and they grow out of it.
But now they have this permanent decision that they made when they were 12 years
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old and really impressionable or 14 or 15 or whatever.
Now they're 18 or 20. And they're like, this isn't me.
I don't like this. This doesn't make sense. It was just a phase. I was confused.
But the pharmaceutical companies wanted that money. And the school wanted the
virtue signaling that they were doing what the government or ESG school told them to. Right. Right.
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Then they come to find out, these children that later often become adults,
come to find out that there is no off-ramp.
This is a one-way road. The pharmaceutical companies are not planning on letting
you just easily get off this stuff. They don't have a plan for that.
They don't have a plan for detransitioning. They don't have a plan for reversing
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the surgery once it's done. Right.
Man, you covered so much ground there. And I think you really painted that picture.
There's a 360 spherical assault coming out of the kids, whether it's biologically,
like through what is in the water, the chemicals that we all are exposed to,
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whether it is perhaps they came up in a fatherless home or a broken home,
or there was some dynamic there that had its results.
Whether it's the onslaught of the gender affirming care model that we see the
doctors and the psychologists and the counselors and everybody needing to embrace,
or we're talking about the propaganda coming through SEL, DEI,
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or any number of these other sort of processes built to create greater diversity and inclusion.
And so you really don't have a chance to escape from it. And like Like you said, there is no off ramp.
The plan is you start the puberty blockers, then you move to the hormone replacement therapy.
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So if you're a boy, you start taking on the estrogen and vice versa.
If you're a girl, you start taking on that testosterone and then you're ultimately
prepared to make that final leap.
But nowhere in the process are you expected to like wake up and say,
oh, you know, I made a mistake.
And you can only really do that through, you know, usually most of this is solved
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through going through puberty. But you had blocked that.
You know, we have the next generation is going to be, I mean,
it's already terrible, right?
We've got full grown men who are in the thirties and forties,
let alone the kids who are running around in furry costumes.
We've got college professors. You saw that recently, right? College professors
wearing this saber tooth tiger outfit.
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It's a cool outfit. It really is. It just should not be.
Why are we being educated by a guy in a saber tooth? I mean, yeah, context people.
So where does this kind of go in terms of we have kids who have lost their body
parts and they are waking up to the fact that there was malpractice played.
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And now it looks like more and more organizations are beginning to lose their
legal footing, especially with the WPATH files coming out, showing that it's all a lie.
Where do you think or how do you think parents need to start to stand up and
speak back against the lies in order to protect themselves,
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in order to get some remuneration or some reparations for what's already happened to these lost souls?
Well, unfortunately, in places like Canada, if you don't affirm your child's
choice to be transgender or one parent's choice to transition the kid,
basically, then you can have your kids taken away.
And they're actually doing something similar in California, from what I understand.
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I think that there's a lot of headway that's being made. There's a lot of people
that, like Chloe Cole is a good example, or Amy,
or Lauren, all of whom were at AmFest, and I actually met and had conversations
with, that can act as the other side.
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You know, the parents can say, okay, well, instead of like trying to combat
them. Because anytime you tell your kid, no, they want to even more, right?
Instead of doing that, it could be more so like, okay, well,
this person right here, they transitioned and now this is where they were thinking.
Have you seen this? Do you know who this is? No, no, I will check it out.
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Tell me what you think, right? And then the thing is that if you do it on their
device, their laptop or their phone, then the algorithm will start factoring
in those videos into the system.
And that's something that we kind of failed to mention earlier was that social
media and the algorithms and stuff, when these kids go down these transgender
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rabbit holes, they just keep being fed this echo chamber bullshit.
You know what I'm saying? So, oh, it's radio. I'm so sorry.
Anyway, they just keep being fed this echo chamber jargon, this self-referential,
cyclical logic madness.
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So if you can kind of figure a way to get them out of that algorithmic rabbit
hole or that algorithmic echo chamber, rather, then you can have the other stuff
be factored in there, like Chloe Cole or something like that.
And then those will end up being voices of reason.
And another thing you could probably do is tell them, look.
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You want to wear those kind of clothes, okay, that's fine. But here's what we're going to do.
I want you to wait until you are 18.
You want to dress this way, you want to cut your hair, fine with me.
But when it comes to these permanent decisions that are going to affect you
the rest of your life, wait until you're 18.
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Then you can do whatever you want. But as of right now, while you're living
under my roof, you're not getting a tattoo, you're You're not drinking alcohol.
You're not smoking cigarettes. You're not getting put on hormone blockers.
And you're not doing reassignment surgery because these are all permanent decisions
that are going to affect you the rest of your life.
But Jake, someone might say, that is so transphobic.
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Don't you know that if the child goes through puberty, they might change their
mind and actually decide to turn their back on their true identity, a trans individual?
That is the argument that is being made right now is that if you don't put them
on puberty blockers while they're young or really like solidify them in their
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in their delusion, in their gender dysphoria, body dysmorphia,
then they are not going to adapt well into adulthood because now they've already
gone through the puberty of the wrong sex.
Hold on a second here, because I'm actually about to quote somebody that was
transitioning that I met while I was in prison.
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And I asked them, what do you think about all this stuff with these kids being
fed hormone blockers and, you know, all this stuff that's out there about,
you know, cutting kids genitals off and stuff like that?
That. First of all, physical bodies that are still developing should not have
permanent surgeries because their bodies are still growing.
If you're going to do something like that kind of a surgery,
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you want to wait until your body is done growing, right?
What this person said to me was that they believe that there's no such thing
as too late to transition, but there is such a thing as too early to transition.
And that's where my belief is at, where it's like, look, dude,
if you are an adult, well, I don't care what you want to do with your body.
As long as it doesn't involve children or unwilling participants,
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I don't care what your sexuality is.
I don't care what you do with your physical body.
You want to get ink injected to your eyes and horns grafted onto your head and
you want to get your teeth filed down to fangs and start calling yourself a
they or something. I don't care.
But the moment that you start preying on children, it becomes my problem and
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my responsibility to tell you, you know, no.
Not while I'm here. You are preying on innocence.
And as adults, it's our job to protect innocence.
So these people that say that these things are transphobic, what they're attempting
to do is beat people into submission with an ideological billy club.
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People don't want to be labeled racist or homophobic or transphobic or whatever.
They don't want to be hit by the cancel culture that this DEI,
you know, ESG system is behind.
So they acquiesce and they they submit.
Not me. I'm going to call a spade a spade. And the thing is,
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and I think this is really important as well to mention, is that,
look, Look, I have trans friends, male to female in particular.
I've had a number of trans friends that are male to female that have chosen to stay that way.
One chose to do the surgery. Another one didn't, right? One chose to get breast
implants and not do the bottom surgery.
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The other one chose to do both breast implants and bottom surgery.
And the thing is, and obviously I also have female to male transition friends
that have chosen actually to stop, you know? Some that have actually gone all
the way with it, as funny as that is.
I don't have a prejudice against them. I'm not transphobic. I want to protect children.
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That's really what it comes down to.
I used to work with kids in group homes. Did you know that? Yes, I did learn that.
But I know very little of that. I just know that one fact. Yeah,
I used to work with teen boys in group homes, and I worked in several different group homes.
In one of the group homes I worked in, they actually specialized in helping
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children who were molested and therefore ended up offending themselves.
You know, that they were sex offenders because they were molested themselves
by an adult, and then they molested somebody that was younger than them.
So I've seen the effects of what child predation does to children and what we
are witnessing with all of this trans garbage in schools or on TV or drag queen
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story hour or drag queen shows in front of little children,
which from what I've seen, there has been numerous of these quote unquote drag
queens that have either failed.
Already been arrested for sex offenses against children or have been since doing
all this been busted for sexual predation or child pornography or whatever.
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I want to protect children from those people. And the LGBT movement has been
hijacked by the pedophiles, the queer theory people,
which is just pedophilia in disguise, and the AI plus whatever,
they have ruined all of the progress that has been made both by the LGBT community and by society.
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Because the thing I told you about earlier about my friends that were the male
to female, all they want to do is blend in.
They don't want all these special privileges.
They're not out there with signs lines and purple hair screaming about their
rights. They just want to blend in society.
Most, if not all my homosexual friends just want to blend in.
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They just want to be accepted for who they are.
They don't want to be bothered about what they choose to do behind closed doors.
I'm fine with that. It's these weirdos that are out there that want to prey on kids.
They are the ones that are the activists. They are the ones that are attempting to create all
these labels so that they can go after people that are trying to cancel them
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from getting their hands on kids and then try and return the tables and say,
oh, no, you are this or that.
Does that make sense? Yeah, it absolutely does. You made a good point.
Hurt people hurt people.
And so that's what we have there. And then we also have this,
like you were just saying, the equating.
And this This is like, I think, the big issue right now, because,
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you know, acceptance of the gay community by the general populace is going down
and it's going down because they're looking at what's happening in the schools.
But it seems that the majority of the gays are standing around saying nothing.
That tacit agreement creates the appearance that the movement really does want this.
And so it does take those straight and gay and bi and anybody else that identify
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thinks they're somewhere in the spectrum to stand up against that.
And I think the real problem here is we have people who are intentionally conflating.
They're intentionally conflating trans and gay.
OK, so you're gay. You're attracted to a member of the opposite sex or you're trans.
You think you're in the wrong body. I mean, those are worlds apart.
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And as long as somebody thinks that by separating them, you're being transphobic.
I mean, what's really happening is we have a mental illness,
and I know people have different opinions.
People have always said gays are mentally ill or trans are mentally ill or whatever the case.
But if we're taking and we're saying, let's just like throw them all together and conflate the two.
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I mean, like you were saying, when we're talking about the Q of the LGBTQIA,
we're talking about in there is the MAPS, is the Minor Attracted People.
Pedophiles. A.K.A. Pedophiles. And so if- Spade to spade. I'm sorry.
Sorry, I don't know. It is what it is.
That's what we call it here. And so if we can't discern the differences between
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protecting kids and what they're calling transphobic behavior,
and we can't discern these queer identities with queer theory and its ends,
which are ultimately the incorporation and normalization of the minor attracted persons,
a.k.a. pedophiles. Thank you.
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Then we are in a situation where we can't call a spade a spade.
We can't address the problem.
And we are essentially neutered in our ability to protect kids.
Right. And that is the goal of all of this is to destroy the family unit and
make it to where the state controls the life of the child from birth to death.
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That's the goal. And to allow. And here's the thing.
And I only speak about all this stuff with pedophiles
infiltrating the LGBT movement and
ruining all their progress because pedophiles also tried to infiltrate and run
the Libertarian Party because they were trying to get all of these age of consent
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laws removed through the Libertarian movement,
through the Libertarian Party, trying to say that government shouldn't have
a say in children consent. to sex or not.
And there was enough libertarians that said, how about GFY, you know,
and GTFO, you know, STFU.
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I'm sorry if that is too much for radio. I tried to keep it, you know.
We're not censored here, luckily. Oh, thank God. Okay.
So, case in point, these people are going to try anything and everything that
they can. I mean, NAMBLA is a thing.
Right. They've been around for quite a while. What? When I found out that NAMBLA
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was real, I was mind blown.
And for those who don't know, NAMBLA is the National Association of Man Boy,
NAMBLA, NAMBLA Love Association.
Yeah, it's pedophilia, basically. Yeah, it's basically them lobbying for pedophilia.
Now, I'm of the belief that if you If you are willing to harm a child,
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you should be behind bars.
Like if you if you're if you are a person that there's like DNA evidence,
there's video evidence or there's like a unprovoked confession of sorts that you harmed a child.
Child, I think that should be the stuff where mandatory minimums are in place,
like 10 years minimum, if not 15, all depending on the age, you know,
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if not 30, all depending on the age.
There's some of these people that are raping toddlers or infants.
So that's something else that you have to consider is that they're incrementally
moving down in age with these kids, you know, of when and where they can't transition.
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Now they're trying to say that children can know that they're transgender while
in the womb. But here's the crazy part.
I thought that these lefties said that life didn't begin in the womb.
So if it's able to know that it's trans in the womb, then that means that it's alive.
It's not just a clump of cells, is it? So here's the thing about these people and their arguments.
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They're not logical. They are simply based on ideology, and their ideology is
one that has an agenda that is very, very nefarious.
And evil always lies because it knows that it can't come through the front door with the truth.
It has to come in through the back door with the lie.
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And that's how you get your, literally your nation or your home invaded by this
mind virus or these ideological monsters. Right.
Yeah, absolutely. I was just talking with Dr.
Alex Bileckian, who is running for California's congressional district number 30 there.
And he mentioned he was talking about Scott Weiner's proposition,
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which I had not put enough attention on, even though I was aware that Scott
Weiner is like, it got the spotlight on him for this very thing.
And he was telling a story.
It's like there is a law that says that should an adult rape or have vaginal
sex with a child who's 12 or 14 years old, that the judge can actually decide
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whether or not they are a sex offender.
It's not like an automatic thing. And so Scott Wiener said, hey,
let's keep a level for the gays.
And in this case, particularly his pedophilia tendencies or his sympathies towards such.
And he said, instead of putting men who sodomize young boys,
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putting them onto the sex offender registry, what if the judge decided,
you know, on a case by case basis for them, too?
And so So it's that little creeping compromise that is just working its way
in to normalize this behavior.
And they had to do it incrementally because they couldn't just go from zero to 100.
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They had to climb and climb and climb and eventually get to where it's at now.
And there is a significant amount of pushback. And they knew that there would
be. So that's why they come up with these instead of saying,
you know, you are pedophobic. No, you're transphobic.
You see, they're literally using these people and their plight like human shields for their agenda.
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It's a mask. It's a mask.
But it's the same ugly face behind the mask.
Every time they have to change their mask because they get discovered,
the mask gets thrown off and people realize what an ugly belief system it is
or what an ugly face it is that's behind this mask.
So that's why we just can't relent.
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And I think that at this point, because it's all based on a lie and it's all
largely rooted in evil, the political fallout that's coming from this, for example, Muslims.
Are so against all this stuff. And normally the Muslims were voting Democrat,
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but now the Muslims are noticing, wait a second, the Democrats are trying to
tell my kid that there's more than one gender and they're trying to like indoctrinate
them into this bizarre garbage.
No, no, you're not going to do that. And so now the Democrats are going to have
to either go after the Muslims and call them bigots and homophobes and all this other stuff,
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or they're going to have to, submit to their will as far as not doing this with their kids.
But then they're not going after the Muslims the same way they're going after the Christians.
Notice how the Democrats always go after the Christians, but the Muslims are saying the same thing.
So now you have Muslims and you have Christians coming together and saying,
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this is wacky. I'm not having my kids go to school here.
So it's actually creating unity where there was once division.
And in that sense, I mean, I mean, we were promised that Joe Biden was going
to unify the country. He unified everybody against him.
Yeah. Yeah. You saw the college campuses right now. We have the protesters for
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Palestine and those for Israel.
And there was a video that came out recently where one side is like F Joe Biden.
And then their opponent side, you know, the Jews are like F Joe Biden.
And then so it's like, oh, my gosh, it's like you brought them together,
you know. And that's the thing.
It's like, you know, just as a little footnote, whatever, Gays Against Rumors
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isn't a political organization.
But if you're following the pattern, if you're looking at what's happening,
there is absolutely something recognizable that's happening politically with
the positions that people are taking.
And there is a reason why there is this trend towards taking a more,
generally speaking, a conservative perspective on these things.
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But the fact of the matter is, it shouldn't be political.
Everybody from both sides should be able to agree.
But there is an unnatural polarization that is happening, and that's happening through the media.
We're being split up into this diametrically opposed dichotomy of these two
extremes so that we can't come together in the common sense issues like we did
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just five, six, seven years ago.
The landscape is so different that it's a different America.
We all have different social lives. We can't ignore that.
That's the elephant in the room. Now, what we're talking about here is psychological warfare.
And the use of what are called trigger
words and trigger images to neuro-linguistically program individuals.
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So neuro-linguistic programming, linguistics, words, designed to program or
create a pattern in the neurons in the brain.
In particular, the subconscious portion of the brain.
So when you combine a trigger word and a trigger image, for example,
trigger word meaning deadly virus, like with COVID, right?
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And then you show a picture or a bunch of numbers were going up and up and up
and you show people in hospital beds or people being wheeled in by ambulances and stuff like that.
Then that is a trigger word and a trigger images combined together to stimulate
an instinctual response in the subconscious portion of the brain.
And that subconscious conscious portion of the brain ends up controlling a person's
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conscious perception of reality.
So now let's graft this with what's going on with the trans LGBT community.
You have trigger words and trigger images being combined together to,
and in our case, you have people that are quote unquote protesting for trans rights, right?
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Screaming or posting signs. And the news always tries to make the crowd look
bigger than it actually is, right?
Or they shine the spotlight on a small crowd and make it seem like it's much bigger.
And this is how everybody feels. And sometimes it's the opposite.
If they don't want to show the support that- Right. Exactly.
And sometimes it's the opposite. Like with Trump's rallies, they never want to show how big they are.
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Or with Joe Biden's rallies, they always try to make it look bigger than it is, you know?
So they create this illusion and then they use linguistics, transphobic.
Homophobic, bigot, racist.
And they try to combine all these things together so that if somebody is transphobic,
they're likely also a racist.
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They're also homophobic. You see what I'm saying?
And then And then they use those words to program the minds of the people in
this woke army to hate everybody that does not subscribe to their cancel culture, woke ideology.
And as funny as it is, it's also kind of the same thing on the other side.
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Now, I think that the other side has a lot more of a case to be upset, for sure.
You know, whether they be Christian or Muslims or just Americans that want freedom
and don't want their kids' bodies mutilated, they have more of a reason to be upset.
But the thing is, is that similarly to what's happening with the woke mob,
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you also have kind of like a conservative mob as well.
And this is where I don't know if you saw that thing recently is like a trend
where if you don't say Christ is king, you're not a real Christian or something
like that. Did you see that?
No, I didn't. Yeah, it was like this big.
What's that? I think actually I may have seen it, but I forgot.
But so, well, the point is, is that if you don't say what the mob wants you
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to say, then you're canceled amongst the mob.
So there are certain individuals that were these quote-unquote conservative
influencers that were like, well, why do I have to say Christ has came?
I mean, I love Jesus, but I'm not really like a quote-unquote Christian in that regard.
I'm more spiritual. Why do I have to say what you want me to say?
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And so, oh, well, you're not a real Christian, and we're not going to listen to you anymore.
So there is a cancel culture kind of on both sides.
But the only reason why it even exists in this way is because of like what you were saying.
Social media or the mockingbird media, as I like to call them,
the network news, they only showcase and spotlight the most extreme moments
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or elements of certain situations because they get the most attention.
And since our attention has been commoditized, since our attention has been
monetized, now they're going to do whatever they can to get something that gets
the highest amount of views. Controversy.
Fear of death, chaos, violence, disorder.
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Look, everybody's like, oh, well, did you did you see that? Everybody starts
talking about it and then they come back the next day to get the update.
You know, that reminds me exactly. You may have seen there was a whistleblower
and I wish I could give you his exact name in the context,
but he was working for the so-called deep state, you know, part of the government
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of the CIA that he had come out of.
And he revealed that part of of the mission or the agenda of the approach of
their department was to create this division.
And the way that they were doing it was to hone in on those most repulsive.
Disgusting aspects of each side.
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So, in other words, with the leftist progressive woke side, They're being shown
images and given narratives that the people on the right are racist and they're homophobic,
they're bigoted and all of these things that really like portray prejudice,
which, you know, to especially that side.
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I mean, we should all be disgusted by all of that.
Honestly, we should have open, loving hearts.
But in the context in which it's shown, it's creating a spiraling anger and upsurge.
And on that side, and then on the more conservative side, people are being shown
images of the most egregious things, including topics like what we're talking
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about, pedophilia and what's happening to children.
Now, and when we see that and we focus on that, it does seem to create this like this war.
Now, there is realities, though, here, you know, we could find honestly,
we can find racists on both sides and you can find pedophiles on both sides and you can.
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Particularly, you know, and this is one of the things that really kind of like
catalyzes this whole thing, that galvanizes this whole thing,
is that we are absolutely looking at the indoctrination,
sexualization and mutilation of children in schools,
on TV, social media being done in the name of the 2SLGBTQQIAA+.
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OK, that's queer and questioning.
I intersex, asexual and allies.
OK, that's pretty much everybody. And if you look at the progress flag that
includes black and brown people, it's pretty much everybody but the straight white man and woman.
And so there is a reality that is being fought.
But at the same time, there is a whole lot of anger mongering that's happening
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on either side that is creating a real like cutthroat environment right now in society.
And if we can't see outside of our silos, outside of our bubbles,
we won't realize just how much of our anger is being fermented by these narratives.
And unfortunately, even when we do become like I myself feel,
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you know, somewhat aware of a lot of these things I'm describing at the same
time, that doesn't make what I'm seeing,
particularly with the kids in schools and who is protecting and supporting and
propagating that politically or otherwise. It doesn't make it any easier.
It's not a delusion. It's not some imagination.
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But at any rate, if people don't understand how this narrative is kind of being
manipulated, they become kind of the useful idiots that go to war at the other side.
Absolutely. And most of this anger is manufactured.
It is generated and created by the social engineering machine, for sure.
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And keeping the human beings into compartmentalized and propagandized groups
of warring tribes is how you divide a nation and conquer it from within. in.
Now, when it comes to things like, you know, the division that is that most
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certainly should be there, like we are, I think everybody should be against pedophiles.
But like you said, there's Republicans and Democrats, both pedophiles. Yes, absolutely.
Believe it or not, they're oh, yes. How do you think they have the uniparty
in D.C. or all across the country?
We have to start being willing to call out, call a spade a spade,
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you know, political parties have absolutely destroyed this country.
And there's a reason why our founding fathers didn't like them.
I, a little bit of humor here. I saw this hilarious post on X or Twitter,
and it was, I think it was Blair White that said it.
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Are you familiar with Blair White? And it was a picture of the new version,
quote unquote, of the LGBTQAI plus flag with all of like this umbrella looking
thing and this, you know, arrow looking thing in this circle.
And I think what Blair said was something along the lines of,
you know, that the LGBTQ,
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you know, the LGBT movement has been hijacked because there's no way that homosexuals
would think that something like this looks good or they would never allow. No, no, honey.
Yeah. Like, no way. This isn't going to work. Is this hot mess?
Ugly. What are you doing? Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah.
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Anyway, I wanted to go in a certain direction with that because there's patterns that are recognized.
It's almost sigilistic with these things. You know, these symbols are very,
you know, in our face in this day and age.
And I'm not going to go there, but you've probably seen it on social media.
Follow Gays Against Groomers and other places on it. But there's definitely
many layers to this that show it is a top-down operation.
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This is not an organic thing. And I actually hit on this quite frequently because
I think people need to keep their eyes on the actual enemy here.
You know, sometimes, you know, we do think it's like, oh, it's the teacher who
just wants inclusiveness.
And sometimes, yeah, their ideology they've been indoctrinated with is the problem.
It's the problem of the day.
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But more so, it's where is this coming down?
How is this being cultivated into the training that's making its way and proliferating?
And that is coming right down from the World Economic Forum.
They have a whole division, which is dedicated to this, the D-E-I-C-R-T,
you know, ESG, et cetera, et cetera.
And all of that is creating the division.
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It's creating, or I was just talking with Nicole Solis, who's a mother who's
in the middle of suing a school board district in Rhode Island.
And she was talking about, what was it? Anyway, I forget. We'll cut that. Yeah.
You do so much introduction stuff. Yeah.
But anyway, this we got a top down operation and we all need to be aware that
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if we take our eyes off of where it's coming from, we're going to keep fighting
amongst ourselves. selves.
And what we need to be doing is making sure that all of our global governments
are not bending the knee to a one world order.
And that is where we're going to lose our values, our sovereignty, and we become the enemy.
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The traditional American who's holding these is becoming a bigoted enemy,
and that is going to keep happening until people say.
Look, these policies that are coming down is part of a global Marxist plot to
bring everybody together and to undermine the family unit.
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We're going to the wussification of our country. There's other variations of that.
And we are going to remove the father from the home through certain influences.
And we're going to get the women out to work. And we're going to get the kids in school.
And then we're going to indoctrinate them. And like the other things are saying,
and then we got the chemicals going, and then we got their social media coming at them.
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And it's a perfect storm for somebody that can't see this monstrous agenda.
It's such a big picture that it really will take you years and years,
even decades of study to more fully comprehend how huge of a war we're up against right now.
Well, Yuri Bezmenov talked to the ex-KGB operative in charge of psychological
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warfare and mind control, he defected the United States in the 80s.
And he talked about how it is that the United States schools,
colleges, K-12, also the United States entertainment, their politics,
their government, their news media, all of it had been infiltrated by communists.
And there was a very real, quote-unquote, global communist conspiracy that Yuri
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Bezmenov, those are his words, not mine, that he talked about.
And he said that The Soviet Union and this global communist conspiracy had an
agenda to destroy the United States from within.
And it was a part of a fourfold plan.
So after they had infiltrated these universities or the K through 12 or entertainment
or government or what have you, they would start to disseminate demoralizing
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propaganda to a whole generation of kids.
So he said that the demoralization element to this plan was going to take anywhere
from 15 to 20 years because you have to demoralize a whole generation of American youth.
And he was also saying that once the mind has been so heavily demoralized,
you can bring these people black and white information.
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You can bring them the documents, photographs.
You can bring them video footage of how communism is evil and how what they're
saying doesn't make sense and how all this is a propaganda and the demoralized
mind will not believe it.
Because it creates such a cognitive dissonance, the idea that they have been
lied to their whole lives and believed all these lies is too painful.
Then he said the next phase is destabilization,
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where these infiltrators in the system and the demoralized generation who have
been taught to hate their own country and want a communist government begin
to destabilize their own socioeconomic system,
their own geopolitical system in favor of communism.
And then once they have gotten to that second destabilization portion,
that takes about another couple of years.
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Then comes a third phase, which is crisis.
And that's where all of the destabilization of the socioeconomic geopolitical
system begin to erupt in catastrophe.
So the housing market collapses. The banks fail.
The inflation goes way, way up. People don't know what bathroom to use, et cetera, et cetera.
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People are having their kids taken away because they're not affirming their gender or whatever.
Those are the crisis. And then finally, there is the normalization.
That's the fourth phase. And that is where these infiltrators and these brainwashed
people in this generation end up hijacking or taking over the government.
And they create a communist government and they normalize the demoralizing propaganda.
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They normalize the destabilized system. They normalize these crises.
And then they promise to, quote unquote, fix them by creating this communist government.
So what we're looking at, like you said, is Marxism.
It's just Marxism with the mask of LGBT rights or with the mask of stopping
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racism, the mask of, you know, we're trying to create peace by going to war.
Yeah. I mean, these kids are coming out on,
the Maoist children who were completely brainwashed and propagating these beliefs
because they thought, and it's happening in colleges right now.
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James Lindsay talks a lot about that. He's featured in an upcoming film,
which is going to be out within the next couple of weeks that also I appeared
in on behalf of Gays Against Groomers called Beneath Sheep's Clothing.
Go to BeneathSheep'sClothing.movie, and that parallels how communism moved into
the USSR versus what's happening in America right now.
And you'll see that what we're dealing with at Gays Against Groomers is just
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one little facet of a much bigger scheme that's happening right now.
So let me ask you, do you have any last words before we end this episode on
the subject or warnings that you'd like to share?
I just want to say I love Gays Against Groomers.
You guys are doing a great job. And thank God there's people amongst your community
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that are standing up and saying, no, this is not okay.
These people over here, they don't speak for us.
We don't, we aren't for this. In fact, we are going to protect our,
you know, these children. We're going to protect the next generation.
So good on you guys. God bless you. Thank you for having me.
Support Gays Against Groomers. That's one thing I'll definitely say.
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I support them. I try to share everything I can that's on X or Twitter that I find.
You guys are doing a great job. I actually met your guys' founders at AmFest.
Great women, great women. So with all of that said, I love everybody.
I have no real prejudice whatsoever with the exception of pedophiles.
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Those are probably the only groups that are rapists, you know, that kind of stuff.
I just don't like, I don't want anything to do with it. But I have gay friends.
I've got trans friends on both sides of the spectrum. I have...
Friends that are black, white, gay, straight, Asian, Hispanic, whatever.
What matters most, you guys, is that we love thy neighbor as thyself.
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Simple as that. It's really not. I mean, it's a little bit of work sometimes
because people are different.
But if you have an open heart and an open mind, it's really not all that hard.
If you have liked what I've said here, is it cool if I plug my social media?
You can find me at America Shaman. That's at America Shaman,
at AmericaShaman on X or Twitter.
(58:11):
You can also find me at YellowstoneWolfAZ on Rumble.
That's YellowstoneWolfAZ, all one word, YellowstoneWolfAZ, all one word on Rumble.
And you can also find me on my website, ForbiddenTruthAcademy.com.
That's ForbiddenTruth, T-R-U-T-H, Academy.com.
(58:31):
And ForbiddenTruthAcademy.com, you can find a bunch of free content. All my content is free.
The only thing that is not is you can buy my book or you can buy some awesome merchandise.
You can also book me for an interview or you can book me for a personal consultation.
Feel free to go to the website and check it out. Thank you for your time.
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Well, I really appreciated your time here, Jake.
And I know everybody listening has walked away smarter and more informed.
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