The Roofing Operating System Podcast is the definitive podcast for growth-driven roofing contractors ready to ditch the guesswork and build a scalable, software-powered business. Hosted by Nick Peret, founder of Better Boss and creator of BetterBossOS™, this show gives you a front-row seat to the systems, automations, and AI tools behind the fastest-growing roofing companies in the country.
You don’t have to storm-chase or race to the bottom to win in roofing. This episode proves it.
In this refreshingly honest episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Chuck Allen, owner of Rio Blanco Roofing and host of the long-running podcast Keeping It Rio, to talk about what it really takes to build a roofing brand rooted in trust, consistency, and integrity.
Chuck sh...
What does it really take to run a $20M roofing business behind the scenes?
In this exclusive episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Andy Hoover, co-owner of Built Right Roofing, to unpack the day-to-day systems, operational workflows, and leadership principles behind one of the fastest-scaling roofing businesses in America.
While Andy’s business partner Jake Hofer to...
Most contractors burn out long before they cash out. Jonathon Broce didn’t. Here’s how.
In this powerful episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Jonathon Broce, a roofer-turned-entrepreneur who has built—and sold—three roofing and home service companies without losing his identity, family, or mental health in the process.
From his early days in his father’s sheet meta...
\What if you could copy the exact blueprint one young contractor used to build a $1M roofing company in his 20s? Now you can.
In this episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Bailey Masters, founder of Top Tier Roofing, who launched his business at just 24 years old—and quickly scaled it to $1M+ in revenue.
Bailey shares his no-fluff journey from sales rep to business ...
Want to sell more roofing jobs without chasing storm claims or depending on insurance? This is the playbook.
In this episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) welcomes back industry thought leader Jen Silver for a bold conversation about where roofing sales is really going.
Jen shares her approach to building a modern, brand-led roofing business using financing, trust-based selling, a...
Want to generate more qualified roofing leads through content—not discounts? Here’s how.
In this tactical episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Chad Lubinski, content creator and strategist for contractors, to reveal the exact social media playbook roofing companies are using to attract inbound leads in 2025.
From TikTok to long-form YouTube, Chad shares how to buil...
What happens when a 7-year-old grabs the mic on a roofing business podcast? Pure gold.
In this fun and family-centered mini-episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret is joined by Jordan, the 7-year-old son of Jake Hofer, co-owner of Built Right Roofing.
Jordan shares his hilarious and heartfelt perspective on life with a roofer dad, his passion for Pokémon, and why he thinks YouTube and podcasting are the fut...
$0 to $20M in 5 Years | How Built Right Roofing Scaled With Systems, Sales, and Culture
In this powerhouse episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Jake Hofer, co-founder of Built Right Roofing, to break down how his team scaled from scratch to $20 million in annual revenue—in just five years.
From raw startup days in the Dakotas to a system-driven, team-led organizati...
Which Roofing Business Model Will Work Best for Your Market?
In this episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) is joined by roofing strategist and multi-market operator Allen Mick to unpack the top 3 roofing business models that contractors use to build profitable, scalable companies.
From residential retail to commercial service to storm restoration, Allen walks through each model's ...
Thinking about selling your roofing company? Here’s exactly how to do it right—and walk away with maximum value.
In this expert-packed episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Claudio Vilas, founder of The Roofing Biz Broker, to map out the step-by-step process of preparing your roofing company for a profitable exit.
From business valuation and accrual accounting to bu...
Tired of discounting your work just to win jobs? This episode shows you how to charge more—and get it.
In this powerful episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) welcomes Joe Crisara, legendary sales coach and founder of Service MVP, to unpack a proven roofing sales framework that helps contractors close more jobs at higher prices—without pressure or gimmicks.
Joe has helped thousands...
AI isn’t coming for your job—it’s coming for your inefficiencies.
In this tactical episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Jonathan Mast, AI expert and founder of White Beard Strategies, to break down how roofing contractors are using ChatGPT and AI tools to save time, automate follow-ups, close more jobs—and get their lives back.
This is not a tech demo. It’s a real-...
Want to grow your roofing business without slashing prices or burning through ad spend? Start here.
In this high-impact episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Cole Haynes, co-founder of Escalade Roofing, to unpack the content strategy and brand playbook that helped take their company from $500K to over $3M in annual revenue—in just two years.
Cole shares how faith, f...
This is your complete 2025 tech stack guide—designed specifically for growth-minded roofing contractors ready to embrace automation, AI, and system-driven success.
In this episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) breaks down the exact tools, workflows, and integrations top contractors are using to:
✅ Streamline estimating ✅ Automate sales & proposals ✅ Improve communication &...
He had nothing. Now he leads a $15M roofing business built on grit, faith, and second chances.
In this unforgettable episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with John Franco, CEO of GreenTek Roofing, to unpack one of the most inspiring transformations in the industry.
John shares how he went from being homeless and at rock bottom to building a roofing company now doing ove...
In this episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) shares the 10-step sales system that top roofing contractors are using right now to automate follow-up, close faster, and increase average job size—without burning out their team.
From proposal templates and measurement tools to upgrades, financing, and post-job review strategies, this is the complete breakdown of a scalable roofing sa...
Commercial roofing sales are complex—this CRM makes it simple.
In this episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Erik Vargas, co-founder of Followup CRM, to break down exactly how top commercial roofing companies are scaling their sales teams, tracking KPIs, and closing bigger deals with more consistency.
From poor lead tracking to forgotten follow-ups and missed propos...
Want to grow your contracting business without burning out your sales team? This episode is your blueprint.
In this high-impact episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Nick Stevens, top sales coach at Legacy Decks Academy, to share how today’s top roofing and deck contractors are closing more jobs with less pressure and more precision.
They dive into the real sales ch...
Lead Generation That Converts | Tim Brown on Real Marketing for Roofers and Contractors
In this episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Tim Brown, CEO of Hook Agency, to unpack how roofing and HVAC companies can actually generate leads—not just clicks.
Tim shares his journey from creative marketer to one of the most trusted names in trades-based marketing. From unders...
They went from rock bottom to $ Millions—and they did it by building a roofing company with purpose.
In this episode of The Roofing Operating System Podcast, host Nick Peret (Founder of Better Boss) sits down with Brian Ford and Alec Martin, co-founders of I AM Roofing—one of the fastest-growing, veteran-owned roofing companies in the country.
From battling personal adversity to building a team-first, mission-led business, Brian a...
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