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February 19, 2025 43 mins
In this special anniversary episode of the What Sold Podcast, the hosts celebrate their one-year milestone by discussing significant sales from their eBay store and sharing insights into the highs and lows of the reselling business. The episode highlights a variety of sold items, including antique jewelry and collectible badges, while also addressing challenges like eBay's listing policies. They provide practical advice for scaling a reselling business, discuss the benefits and drawbacks of the platform, and explore alternative avenues for sales. The hosts also reflect on their friendship and the enjoyable dynamics of making the podcast.   00:00 Welcome to Our One-Year Anniversary!   01:26 Challenges of Balancing Life and Business   03:04 Scaling Up: Handling Increased Sales Volume   04:13 The Joys and Struggles of Podcasting   05:41 Adapting to Audience Feedback   08:31 Hiring Help: When and How to Scale Your Business   11:35 The Realities of Full-Time Reselling   15:12 Engaging with Our Community   16:19 What Sold This Week: Highlights and Surprises   22:45 Exploring the Silver Collection   23:08 The Journey of Selling Silver   23:46 Building Relationships in the Business   24:38 Understanding eBay's Fees and Taxes   25:46 High Sales and Fulfillment Challenges   26:35 The Fascinating World of Vintage Licenses   29:48 The Story of the Dynamite Fishermen   32:38 Navigating eBay's Inconsistent Policies   34:50 Alternative Selling Platforms   39:51 Final Thoughts and Encouragement  

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(00:37):
Welcome back to the WhatSold Podcast audience.
I just realized I told inform out ofthis and our pre production meeting that
this is our one year anniversary people.
I feel like there should besome applause and things.
So cousins, we made it a full year.
We have to get into characterfor just two seconds.

(00:58):
And say from the bottom of my heart,cousins, you you've done us a kindness.
You are a bunch of lambs.
Thank you so much for come outbeing a part of this with us.
We're just trying to sellthings and tell you about it.
You know, what's funny is I hear a littlebit of Missouri come out in you too.

(01:19):
Yeah, maybe so.
I'm out of practice becauseit's been, golly, it's been
like two and a half months.
Some of these People are talking.
People are talking.
Some of these are light of fire.
I, you know what, listen, it'sMonday and fingers are crossed here.
If I don't get sick.
If one of my kids doesn't get sick, ifmy wife, if somebody doesn't break a
bone and if we don't get so much snowthat we're, there's so many things that

(01:42):
can happen, but if none of those thingshappen, I'm going to get back into
the routine this week, making videos.
It's just tough.
We're going to talk about this part ofthe, as part of the show today, but.
A big thing has happened, like aconsequence of me selling more for
other people is that just naturallythe volume of sales is going up.
We're recording this on a Monday.
We don't usually record on a Monday,but we're trying to catch up.

(02:05):
And Because we've been sick.
Because we've been sick, or we'vebeen taking care of sick people,
but between Friday and it's,midday today, so three and a half
days, two of those are a weekend.
But in the eBay world,stuff's available for sale.
Anytime there are no store hours, soto speak of, but I had 68 orders, 68

(02:25):
orders sold in three and a half days.
And some of those ordersare not just a single item.
They could be multiple thingsthat one person bought.
And then I gave them a shipping discount.
So for example, I haven't got to ityet today, but this afternoon, one
of the orders has 43 items in it.
Whoa.
Now the good news is thatthey're small items and they're

(02:46):
all Stored in the same spot.
So it's not like 43 different typesof things and I'm all over the office
area I can, I'll be able to retrievethese fairly quickly, but the point is.
If you have some that have multiple,that's like dozens and dozens and
dozens of items I have to find.
So at this point, I'm really, I'mspending an entire day a week, just

(03:09):
doing, if I added up right, doingfulfillment, I'm fulfilling twice a week.
And each day that I do fulfillment, ittakes half a day to get those orders in.
If I'm doing 60 some orders,let's just call it 60 orders every
three to four days, I'm doingover a hundred orders a week.
I'm processing thatmany, 400, 400 a month.

(03:30):
And that really starts, it eats intoyour time, but I've just traded right.
The time I was spending driving around,I've traded me spending as much money.
I've traded paying for gas for gettingitems that belong to other people.
And I'm doing everythingI do to sell those things.
I've just traded thattime and that money for.

(03:52):
Spending that time doing the workthat directly translates to sales.
And I can keep my investment moneyin my pocket for the most part.
I still go out about once every coupleof weeks, but listen, I used to be
going out two to three times a week.
And spending various amounts oftime, it's been busy and February is
a low month typically, but becauseI'm doing this it's been steady.

(04:13):
Let's talk about that a little bitas we celebrate our one year, one
year anniversary of the What SoldPodcast, kind of crazy to think
that, we were talking about it.
It's really fun.
I think both of usgenuinely enjoyed doing it.
We've talked about it.
We're both friends.
We're friends off the air.
It's not just characters we play.
We enjoy a libation or twoevery once in a while together.

(04:35):
We pretend to be friends on air.
We pretend to be friendly.
We get off as fast as possible.
That's right.
It's over.
You always read about like thosestars where they hate each other.
Like in bands where the bandmembers don't talk to each other.
Yeah, I was gonna say bands.
It's crazy to me.
This just goes to show that there areall kinds of different personalities and
saying, and thank goodness, because ifI were in a band with a bunch of people

(04:58):
that were like me, it just, I couldn'tgo in and play with somebody that I was
really upset with day, day after day, Ijust, and there are people who do that.
If it's your job, right?
If you're just like show me the money.
You don't love every partof your job sometimes.
That's fine.
This show wouldn't workwithout Rusty for sure.
It wouldn't work without you.
There'd be really no point to it,but it is a fun working relationship.

(05:18):
The reason we don't record typicallyon a Monday is because I've got to edit
to get the show dropped on by Wednesdayand it takes a certain amount of time
and I've got other podcasts I'm doing.
It's just a lot of stuff.
But, right.
We both have a lot of stuff going on.
It's interesting to me to think about whenyou were saying that I was like, Economy
is a scale of building a business andthis is, oh, by the way, before I'm going

(05:39):
to, I'm going to cut myself off there.
We've got so much positive response frompeople about like, talk all you want to.
I'm like, so we're just going to talk.
As a response to that.
People are like, you talk all day long.
And I feel like, wow, in themodern era, just, Fast forward
past what you don't want to hear.
Yeah, I don't feel, I don't feel, everythere's there, everybody out there, they

(05:59):
have different things they're lookingfor, wanting and feedback is fine.
Honestly, feedback is fine.
Try to be kind, right?
If it's all the same, but yeah, I getsome people want to just blow past
it and I get that at the same time.
I just think, there's lots ofpodcasts, things out there.
Maybe not as much in this niche,if you don't want to hear us
talking about ourselves, I get it.
Don't listen, don't listen tous, go listen to somebody else.

(06:20):
So that leads me to the nextpart of that whole thing.
And then we'll get back to what we soldand everything is we launched this week.
Finally, a year into our operationhere, we finally figured out
how to show you the item.
So very simply, I cut down the episodeso that it is the part of the show.
Where Matt actuallyphysically shows the items.

(06:40):
So if you're interested in lookingwhat they look like feel for we've
tried Facebook, tried all these things.
It's really hard to get them.
It's just a lot of steps.
Facebook thinks we're imposters, whatever,but we will be, I literally been kicked
off Facebook for, I don't know why, butthey said that you're not really Matt.
But we'll be doing that little,probably usually about 15 minutes.

(07:01):
So if you don't want towatch the whole show.
You just want to watch the part aboutwhat's sold, the physical items, it's
going to be on the YouTube channel.
So you know what, we're giving you, somelisteners, we're giving you what you want.
We're giving you a condensed version.
Yeah.
And I hope you like it.
And I think that the way we're, youcorrect me, but I think the intention,
if we haven't done it already, is toset up within YouTube, these lists.

(07:26):
They're yeah, playlists, but playlists.
Yeah, exactly.
So yeah, so you can go, and if all youwant to do is watch videos like that,
you can watch those, if you just wantto watch the videos that I have done in
the past and plan on continuing to do.
where I'm basically just sitting in frontof my computer and I'm showing you my eBay
store and showing you, item after item.

(07:46):
This is how long it took to sell.
This is how much it costs.
This is what I got.
In any like pertinent information,quick, rapid fire stuff.
You can get that info too.
And then if you just want to watchthis, I don't know why anyone would
actually want to just watch us and doingthis, but if somebody wants to, you
know, otherwise, obviously the pod, thepodcast is where you can consume it.

(08:10):
We're sort of building it for youto listen to while you're gardening
or drive it in your car or whatever.
But so one of the things thatyou said about this, about,
how much time you spent.
That you're spending more time actuallyin fulfillment, which is great, but
I was thinking about the fact thatwe've talked about this on past shows
about what's the tipping point for you?

(08:31):
Ma I guess monetarily or number wiseto where you said, Hey man I can
make more money doing X than Y andI need to hire somebody to do Y.
Is there any point or is it just.
I know that you've had peoplework for you in the past.
Can you give us a littleexplanation on how you do that in
case anybody's out there scaling?
I'm not the, I'm still tryingto figure it out is the correct

(08:54):
answer, and I don't know if thereis a, a right or wrong answer.
I think it has everything to do with.
There are several factors, how much timeare you spending doing certain tasks and
everyone in business who's in businesswho wants to give you advice will tell
you do only do what you can do, and that'sa condensed, the idea being, okay, let's

(09:16):
say your business has 10 primary tasks.
Maybe eight of those tasks would notbe difficult or that time consuming
to teach someone else to do, butthere's two that it doesn't matter
how much time you spend or whatever.
Really, you're in the idealposition to do that task.
You could do it better than anyoneelse, or maybe it's delicate.

(09:37):
Maybe you wouldn't trust someone elsewith it, at least in the beginning.
I think it does make sense tostart, I think the time you need
to start thinking about it is whenyou realize you have more work than
you can accomplish in a given week.
And I'm there, I'vebeen there for a while.
I have way more items sittingaround here that are not listed

(09:57):
than I can get to in a given week.
And every week I'm getting more.
For me, it made sense to hire.
A person or multiple people at anygiven time to be doing listings for
me and I pay them to do the listing.
So for me, I've taught a person how toresearch, photograph, and I've given

(10:18):
them access to one of my eBay stores.
And they're listing items.
And then at the end of every month,we go through and total up how many
listings that person does, and Ipay them based on what we had agreed
to, as far as, the price per listingor however it is that you would
want to do it, I pay per listing.
And that could be a listing of one item.
It could be a listing of a lot.

(10:38):
It doesn't matter.
All in all, like it takes acertain amount of time to do that.
And I've calculated what makessense for me to pay for that.
So that's.
All I'm doing right now is Ihave another person or sometimes
a couple people helping withthat, just because the volume.
Is coming in very quickly.
I'm now getting to the point,as I mentioned, I'm spending a
lot more time doing fulfillment.

(10:59):
And that is an important piecebecause you need to find the item,
get it label packaged and out to aperson within a time window, I have
a three day shipping and handling.
Set up, which I just chose from my store.
No one's balked at that.
If I get a little bit behind, or ifI wait to that last day, sometimes
I get emails from people beinglike, Hey, is this shipped yet?
Or can I get a tracking number?

(11:20):
And I get it, but they don'trealize I have a high high, but
now it's not their problem, right?
That I have other things otherthan what they've paid for
that I have to also attend to.
But I think that when you startmaybe feeling out of the gun,
like, Oh gosh, I'm going to be.
In a difficult place to get all of theseeven fulfilled in time when you start
having that pressure and you're justone person, it's probably time to look

(11:44):
at finding somebody else to take overthat portion because if I was freed up.
To not have to do any fulfillment,then I can focus on doing the research,
separating out the stuff I want myworker to list versus the stuff I'm
letting right now, the way I decidethat is more valuable items I'm taking.
So if it's gold jewelry, or in somecases, Sterling or antique items of a

(12:10):
particular value, I'm going to be listingthose are really high in collectibles.
Things that are still valuable, but maybe.
It's just easier.
I've got a bunch of one thing andit'd be really easy for that worker
to list them in sequence and do itreally quickly all in one category.
That's the stuff I move off to a worker.
The tipping point it's forsome people it's money for me.

(12:32):
It's more about, okay, what needs tobe done and how much time is there
in a day to accomplish those tasks?
And what are the things that only Ifeel comfortable doing for my business
and what stuff am I willing to risk andalso put money out into the world to
have someone else accomplish for me?
That's a long winded answer, but again,there isn't really a right or wrong.

(12:54):
It's just like when you get tothat point, anybody who's a part
time reseller out there is not evengoing to have to worry about that.
It's really, once you get to acertain level, unless you just are
willing to pay a person a buck, alisting or whatever it is, in which
case, You can get started now.
You don't have to have a ton of thingsif you would rather somebody else take
that piece and then, for some peoplethat are just starting, if you have

(13:16):
someone else, like a partner or someoneelse who's interested in doing it,
you guys should divide and conquer.
One person, do the finding ofthe items, maybe the research.
The other person does the listing in thefulfillment and you just split that up.
Peaches, who a friend of mine,who's from the Rusty Channel.
He doesn't live in my town.
He lives in St. Louis, but he'sa perfect example of someone

(13:37):
who's done this type of work.
We would be in business together.
I believe if he was here,we would be sharing.
Probably financial, we'd probablyshare our finances to purchase things,
we would split the work, we wouldsplit the profit because I trust him,
I've known him since I was a kid.
So if you have someone you knowor trust I think the difficulty is
just, there's a lot that you're gonnahave to add all kinds of management

(13:58):
stuff if you hire people, right?
You have to think about how you're gonnapay them, you have to, send them a 1099
at the year for taxes do you trust,like, how valuable are these items?
Do you trust other people with them?
I don't mind trusting someone withitems I've purchased, but I, it
becomes riskier if you, if I havebeen given items by someone else
to sell for them on their behalf.

(14:19):
And then I move them to a third personthat starts to get tricky, right?
Because if something happened,I'm still responsible.
So those are all things to think about.
That's a lot.
It is a lot.
It is.
It's funny as you were talking about in myhead, I start running through the laundry
list of things that you and I both do.
No matter what you do,scaling is always tough.

(14:41):
At the end of the day, we'vegot to do certain tasks.
Now if you're, let's just say you'rea retired couple, maybe you're retired
military and your wife and you or,husbands or whatever, you both get
into the business and you want to make500 bucks extra a month in retirement.
That's a perfect gig to do together.
One person goes out or maybe yousearch together and then one person
does fulfillment and the other.

(15:01):
So there are probablyall sorts of gradations.
Of different roles you could take.
I think the majority, my sense is,and please, people, please email
us at the whatsoldpodcast at gmail.
com if you have thoughts about this,but my sense is that most of the people
that listen to us or interact withthe show are one person operations
who are going out there and they'retrying to sell a few things, probably

(15:24):
not that many full time resellers.
I would be very curious, and this sortof, this is a, We Yvette reached out.
By the way, I thinkYvette's ghosting us now.
I'm going to have it from Yvette.
I said, we'd love to hear from Yvette.
Well, who knows, man.
Sickness isn't going around.
It could be.
I can tell you what.
I, I was out of commission therefor a few weeks and just now
crawling out of that dark hole.
Bless your heart, Yvette.

(15:45):
We hope you're well.
Yeah, we do hope you're well, Yvette.
But If anybody out there is a full timereseller like Matt, who's out there
plugging along, doing it, let us know.
We'd love to have you on a talkabout, if you're in a different
part of the country or you have adifferent spin on the whole thing.
We would love, we are starting to do more.
We're going to bring peaches on.
We've got more and more.
We're going to be start bringing moreguests on because we really do want

(16:06):
to show you the vast configuration ofthings that are possible in this world.
So it's not just Matt does onething, but there are lots of
other ways to skin the cat.
Please let us know if you want to.
Yeah.
All right, Matt.
We taught, we, we teased, wethreatened, we promised in our, on
our one year anniversary show of thewhat's old podcast, we're going to
spend the majority of our time todaytalking about what actually sold.

(16:29):
So you sold a ton of stuff.
In February, let's just launch into it.
What'd you sell this week?
So I'm going to give you a fewexamples of things that have sold.
And then to end, I'm going to give youan example of something that I tried
to sell and discovered that I was notallowed to, and I think that might
be something that, that's a tease.
We call that a tease in the business.
Nice.
It is a tease.

(16:50):
So today has been a good day.
We're about a little after midday andI'd done about 4, 200 in sales today.
Nice.
One, and these are two different lots.
I'm holding up a little, likea gallon size plastic bag.
And in this lot is a bunch of whatwould just be called or considered
Southwest or Native American jewelry.

(17:13):
So all of this stuff, likehere's a nice cuff bracelet.
It.
That involves several really nicequality cab pieces of turquoise, a
little pendant here with turquoise andcoral, and then even some that have onyx.
Like here's a nice necklace, asterling silver necklace with a large
piece of onyx stone at the bottom.

(17:33):
And several of these aresigned by the artists.
Here's another one, interestingdesign and just necklaces.
This was a cool one.
It's got turquoise on one side, but thenif you flip it over, it's got coral.
You can wear it with coral to, on theside that shows the coral, you can wear
it on the side that shows the turquoise.
But this lot, which was probably around.

(17:55):
Let's call it 10 rings, fourlittle cuff bracelets and two or
three necklaces sold for 1, 400.
Oh, wow.
To one person, obviously.
To one person.
So the whole lot probably weighs.
Around between seven and 800 grams.
Now people are paying in thenineties, some cents or so per gram

(18:17):
of silver right now, because silverand gold are the highest gold.
I think it's the highest it's been inlike 20 years, something like that.
It's very high in value right now.
And it's strange too, because a lot oftimes they are inverse of the market.
So if the stock market is cooling,gold starts to go up and vice versa.
But right now the market'sstill pretty good.
And gold and silver upthat cannot last people.

(18:40):
So if you want to sell silver and goldnow's the time to do it Because even
if you sell it for 15 or 20 below spottoday That's like selling it at spot
or above just a year or two ago, right?
Because the values have gone up so much.
So have you been whole spot is theprice that the market is value spot
value Yeah, and you if you look uponline you can look up, just what an

(19:03):
ounce of gold is You But most likelyyou don't have solid gold coins, or
you might, but most people have gold injewelry or rings or things like that.
But you can look up 10k price per gram,14k price per gram, 18k price per gram.
And there are multiple sites outthere that will tell you real time
values of one gram of 14 karat gold.

(19:25):
Gold, they've divided out basedon the amount of purity, the
actual percentage of solid goldinside of that piece of jewelry.
And then you can just multiply thattimes how many grams your item is.
Now, if your item has gemstonesin it, obviously part of
that weight is the gemstone.
So if you're going to sell stuffas a lot, you either should remove

(19:46):
those stones ahead of time or.
You just need to expect that whateverthe weight of that is, they're not going
to pay you that full amount because aportion of that weight is the gemstone.
And some people pull thoseout and sell those gemstones
to jewelers or other places.
Most places just pop them out andPitch them for those who don't know.
And I'm still, I'm talking aboutdiamonds and other precious stones too.

(20:09):
Some people, to them, it'sjust not worth the time.
To even put them in a lot andtry to sell them as gemstones.
The time it takes to removea stone, diamonds are the
hardest gemstone out there.
Diamonds and moissanite.
Those are a 10 on the Mohs scale.
Nine out of 10 is sapphires and rubies.
So those are the hardest substances.
Now, if you're in there with pliersor cutters or something, and you're

(20:31):
trying to remove a stone, like oneof those, the chances are, you'll
probably be able to get it out withoutscratching it or damaging it too much.
But most other gemstones that aresevens or eights or softer, it's
going to be very difficult to removethose without scratching them or
damaging them in the first place.
So if you're spending the timeto get it out and then you.
At the end of the day, , at the endof that, you have a stone out, but now
it's so damaged, no one would wannabuy it, then it wasn't worth your time.

(20:54):
So for things that look like diamond,the test, like diamonds are, half a carat
or higher, people will pull those out.
If it's a really large, what appears to bea natural Colombian sapphire or a really
good color sapphire that or sorry, anemerald or a sapphire, that's a larger
carrot, those will sell really well.
But if this is just amethyst, or ifthis is just rock quartz, or if it's

(21:17):
citrine, which is a type of quartz, it'sjust colored yellow or orange or brown.
Those are just a dime a dozen.
They're not valuable.
So they're going to get them.
They're going to pop them out.
They're going to melt themetal and sell it off.
That's what the scrappers do.
So the point is silver right now,Southwest jewelry with turquoise,
onyx, coral, lapis, those items,especially if they are from like the,

(21:40):
sixties, seventies, and they were madeby maybe they're signed by an artist,
they were made by someone who was anative American, or maybe they were
made by somebody in the Southwest.
And they've signed it.
That stuff, there's a bigcollector base for that.
So that's why I sold these all as a group,because I was able to then sell this
for almost double what the spot weightwas, because it's functional, nothing's

(22:04):
broken, and there are collectors for it.
How much did you pay for that lot?
Or did you just collect them?
Yeah, good question.
I'm probably, hmm, I'm probablyabout 600 in on the lot.
I sold it for 1, 400, soI'm making several hundred
dollars profit off of that.
One bracelet in here actually belongedto somebody else, and so I weighed

(22:24):
that separately, and I'm just goingto have to calculate out and pay
out what that was worth in that lot.
Another big sale, the other bigone that happened today is another
large gallon bag, but this entirething is full of sterling silver.
Oh, wow.
It's a combination it's mostly antiquejewelry that's heavily tarnished.

(22:44):
It might be monogrammed.
We're talking about, littlesalt and pepper shakers,
little cups, several flatware.
And then the rest is just jewelry.
And most of it is marked.
Some of it's not, but it's been tested.
And it weighs a lot.
It weighs about 3, 100 grams.
This morning this sold for 2, 800.

(23:04):
Nice!
I had a 1, 400 sale, I had a 2, 800 sale.
How long did it take you to collectall that stuff to get it together?
I listed both of these this morning.
No, no, I mean, how And they sold,what, about two or three hours.
Oh, how long did it take to collect?
But don't usually collectthem until you sell them?
The silver, the bag of silver, actually,is from one person I'm selling for.
Okay.
It cost me nothing.
I got it all at one time.

(23:24):
How long did it take him?
I have no idea.
Okay.
I have no idea, but he wanted it.
He wanted it to move fast.
He understood what the, whateBay takes and getting it
sold, basically the next day.
And he loses that 13 and a half percentis okay because he's had this for a while.
If he'd sold it last year, hewould have got the money faster,
but he would have made less.

(23:45):
So he chose to wait.
He found me.
And now I can put that in thispocket within a week's time.
Did you know this person beforehand?
I've met them through the courseof doing the work that I do.
And through either conversations,this particular person, I've
just developed a relationship.
But it wasn't a friend is what I'm saying.
No, nope.
Somebody else who does selling aswell, actually in a different avenue.
But they, through conversations,they decided they didn't sell

(24:08):
online and I do sell online.
So we've teamed up now whenthere's higher end things.
Jewelry or collectiblesof a certain value.
He would rather me sell them forhim online because even though he
loses at 13 and a half percent.
I'm still able to sell it for 30to 40 percent more than he would be
able to sell it for Locally at hisshop just based in a rural town based

(24:30):
on whoever walks in so other stuff.
He'll sell Oh, wait a second.
Do you get a cut of that?
I do so I take a percentage.
Yep.
So what I usually tell people ishey, listen ebay takes 13 percent
So we're going to be left withwhatever that is 86 and a half
percent Of whatever that's sold.
So if that 86 and a half percentbecomes the whole now we do a split

(24:52):
And it's usually, it's either a60 30, where they get the larger
amount, and I get the smaller amount.
I also take care of the taxes.
They just get paid out, andI'm not sending them a 1099.
I'm just, I'm paying them for the moneythat came in, and I keep, And, it's their
responsibility to manage their own money.

(25:13):
I'm, but I'm keeping track of the sales.
I end up paying.
So part of my portion of the sale.
I actually lose as well becausethat goes to income tax.
Sure.
At the end of the year, becausethe tax documents that eBay sends
me at the end of the year gives acumulative, like the gross sales.
And so I'm responsiblefor those gross sales.

(25:34):
Obviously I have to do my own Whatmy cost was during the year, what I
paid out to my worker and all of that.
But but I'm on the hook, for, andthat's just the way I've done it now.
It may not make sense to always do that.
If I start getting up.
Right now, in the last two, two tothree months, I may cross 60,000 in
sales in the last nine in 90 days.

(25:56):
It's like on that pace, that's not,that's just a little shy of under
a quarter of a million dollarsgross sales of one person on eBay.
And that's a lot to fulfill.
Yeah, because I'm not selling$10,000 items sometimes.
I'm selling once for two or $3,000,but those are the exception.
It just happened that they happened today.
when we're recording, they look like,so that's why I mentioned the bag.
Looks like it would be youremember in Moana, the giant crab.

(26:19):
Oh yeah, in the pile of all his jewelsand stuff, oh that's exactly right.
It looks like that pile.
Tamatoa.
Tamatoa.
Yeah, I feel like if you could getTamatoa to want to sell some of his
stuff, that'd be the perfect get.
He was he was bejeweled,bedazzled all over his.
Yeah, he loved this stuff.
Okay, some other cool things.
Another person I'm selling for hasseveral collections of things and I just

(26:41):
I met her one time at an estate sale.
Three years later, Ibumped into her again.
We struck up a conversation andnow I'm selling things for her.
And one of these collections thatshe had were several of these
old hunting or fishing licenses.
Now, for those who are not aware back,I would say all the way up into the
seventies from the twenties, all the wayup to the seventies, Instead of getting

(27:06):
like a piece of paper or somethingyou put in your wallet, hunting and
fishing licenses were little pin backs.
They were round, they were hard, witha little pin on the back of them.
And you would pin them on your vest,or on your shirt, or on your, someplace
on your body when you were out hunting.
And it would have, typically, anumber, the year, and the state.

(27:29):
Sometimes it would say whether or notyou were a resident of the county.
It would say the county or a non resident.
I had no idea until I startedresearching these things, how
collectible and valuable they are.
So I don't know the exact number.
It was somewhere around ahundred that, that I got listed.
I put them on a seven day auction,probably 60 or 70 of them sold

(27:51):
in the first seven day auction.
I'm going to hold up afew of these to show.
So one person as an example of multipleorders purchased three, we've got one.
That's a 1927.
Non resident fishing license in Minnesota.
It costs 3 for that in 1927.

(28:11):
That's what it says on the tab.
Another one says hunting license,state resident of North Carolina,
1934 to 1935, and it's green.
And then another one here, fishinglicense, also North Carolina, 1931.
And this is a state resident.
This order of three buttons.
That are about, I would say, one anda half to two inches in diameter.

(28:35):
Two hundred and seventy Dollars.
Wow.
For these three.
That's one sale.
The next one I'll show you, same thing.
This is a 1927 North Carolina fishinglicense that sold for a hundred dollars.
Most of them sold for between 50 and$80, but then this one right here,
a 1931 Michigan with a, looks likea pipe or some kind of fish on it.

(28:58):
Non-resident.
This one sold for 268.
Nice.
Just one.
I have one buyer who purchased, I wentand totaled it before the show today.
He purchased 43 and he spentjust shy of 4, 500 for those 43.
One collector.
Are they, are the FisherLycers still metal?

(29:21):
They are metal.
Yeah.
So they got metal meanthey got a metal pin.
Oh.
Today it's just like apiece of paper, right?
A lot.
'em, it's p it's like paper.
So you usually, and I think thatthey even emailed digital copies.
You can keep it on yourphone or something.
Prior to the pins, they did havesome paper things or even things
made out of like linen or something,like a canvas or something.
And those are incredibly rare, hardto find and decent condition because.

(29:44):
They're just, they're a material thatcan degrade and is easily damaged.
Before you go on from that,I, we've talked about it.
We both grew up in thesesmall rural ag towns.
A couple of lads from my highschool, not the brightest characters,
they because can get dynamite.
There's a whole thing around it, likeyou got to have a license for it and

(30:04):
whatever to blow out tree stumps andthings like that, to prepare fields.
So these two smart gentlemen, acouple of guys, I think they were
a couple of years younger than me.
They got a couple of pieces of dynamite.
They stole a tennis net.
From the high school they strung itacross this it's a big creek It was
a creek, but it wasn't quite a river,but it was creek They strung right but

(30:25):
the steelhead would spawn in this CreekAnd so they and it is a crime to fish
for steel fish in that way Exactly.
I'm to fish at all out of sea.
I think there's only a veryis it a fish by using dynamite
though funny you ask Matt.
Yes, it is These two characters wentthrough dynamite And blue and they caught

(30:47):
I don't know, a couple of hundred of thesesteelhead that were spawning in their net.
They just didn't realize that thefish in game warden could hear the
dynamite and when he walked down,it was like, what do you guys do?
I think it was like thousands ofdollars in fines for the, anyway,
but it reminds me, I don't thinkthey had a fishing license.
I'm just spitballing here, but I'mpretty sure they could have used

(31:07):
one of those fishing licenses.
Oh, yeah, they if true story show ittoo, they couldn't show it too closely.
Cause if he got up and he's like, waita second, 1928, what are you doing here?
That'd have been even the best part.
That would have been thecherry on top of that.
If they tried to say Hey,it says it never expires.
Anyway, true story.
I promise.
All right.

(31:27):
What else sold Matt?
Those guys.
I'm going to, I'm going toshift over to something.
So I did sell a variety of badges.
So this is another collection.
We don't need a stick and badges, a bunchof badges, and it was a combination of
various types of badges, but primarilyit had to do with the railroad workers,

(31:48):
fire workers, like fire departmentstaff, and then police and military.
Okay.
So when I say a badge, I'm goingto pull up a couple of things here.
You'll know exactly what I mean.
So here's a badge.
It says deputy game on it.
Protector Pennsylvania.
So this is like a game warden anda little part of the medallion
actually has fallen off of thatone, but I have several others.

(32:12):
Here's one.
It says Deputy Sheriff.
There's another one that says Police.
If you had one that said DeputyDog on it, I would buy it, Matt.
Deputy Dog.
Do you remember Deputy Dog?
Oh yeah, of course.
Yeah, yeah.
This is this is MemberMcDowell County Rescue Squad.
And this is like North Carolina, it's old.

(32:33):
It's got like one of the screw backkind of screws in the center of it.
So I have, I don't know, maybe let's callit 40 or 50 of these started listing these
along with the fire ones and the others,and very quickly, three were taken down
by eBay stating that it was a policyviolation and that, I shouldn't have them.

(32:58):
And that happens folks.
If you put something on.
Whether it's true or not, they willsometimes flag things where they will
sometimes take your listings down.
If they feel like it's violating apolicy or if it's something that.
They don't allow people to sell.
Turns out, eBay has a policy where theydon't allow you to sell any sort of police

(33:19):
or, according to them, military badges.
I guess the reasoning being,because these were authentic.
These are not reproductions.
These were used at one point in time.
They're just obsolete now.
Now here's the weird part.
There is an entire category ineBay that's simply for obsolete
military and police badges.
They themselves, eBay, have createdthat category for you to sell them.

(33:45):
And that is the category I usedto sell them, and yet they still
pulled them down and said I wasviolating a policy by listing them.
Meanwhile, you can get on and there arethousands of these for sale on eBay.
Why are they telling me I can'tsell it and allowing others?
This therein kind of lies one of theugly parts about this platform is that

(34:05):
they're not consistent and they'll say,Hey just because we haven't found or
ding this other person yet, doesn'tmean that you're allowed to sell it.
So you may find sometime that thereare people out there selling a
particular item on eBay and you can't,or if you risk it, you might sell it.
But also eBay might catchit and pull it down before.
So what happened was all ofmy fire ones could stay up.

(34:28):
All of my game warden ones could stay up.
All of my ones for, hunting and fishing.
But when it came to police, Ihad to take all of them down.
So here's the deal.
I discovered that I can't sellthese on eBay because according to
eBay, they have a policy against it.
What do I do now?
Would you do?
Or what do you think?

(34:49):
My.
My alternative avenue or avenues tosell these now would be, I guess I
would either try to find a collectoronline or I would maybe try to
find another selling platform.
Etsy, I don't know Ya as far as Iknow, I have not checked Etsy yet.
My guess is you can sell them on Etsy.
I think when I'm going to try first is,and I've done this before with other types

(35:11):
of things, I have joined a couple of.
Police badge or military badgecollector groups on Facebook.
Oh, yeah.
There there are collector groups, peoplewho form a page and they all join this
group sometimes just to share information.
Like collectors or people who areenthusiasts have these set up so that

(35:32):
people can get on and post pictures.
And people find it fun to look atthem or give information and learn.
And then others are specifically forbuying and selling a particular category.
And then there's crossover of both.
But I've joined somethat do allow selling.
And so I, I plan on trying to reachdirectly people who were there
specifically to buy or sell thatcategory of item and see if I can find

(35:53):
collectors who'd be interested in this.
The downside here is thatit's difficult since.
Some plat, the platforms I primarilyuse don't allow the sales of it, or
it's limited, it becomes difficult todetermine actual current values of these
things being sold, because one of themost valuable things about eBay, even

(36:13):
more so than letting me sell things isthat you can see anything that sold in
a particular category with a certainsearch query in the last 90 days.
So you have a three month period of timethat you can look at and get a decent Of
what the current market values of thesethings are and which things are selling
for more and what you're selling for less.

(36:34):
Since they, some are selling, butthey've limited it like people like
me who have a whole collection here,I can't sell, it's hard for me to know
and I don't want to get on and say,Oh, Hey, this one's 75 bucks and it's
something that's worth 250 or 300, right?
Yeah.
But if you put on something, it's onlyworth 75 and you say, I want 300 bucks.
You'll get two people that put thumbsup and you'll get no responses.

(36:56):
Nobody wanting to buy it.
So it gets a little trickier.
To know that but that's one alter, onealternative is find another platform
where I can do something like this andtry to reach out and find collectors.
I could even reach out in a marketplaceand see if there are local collectors,
even though I think I I limitmyself if I'm only trying to target

(37:17):
people in my geographical region.
It also is one of those thingswhere what's the economies of scale?
Is it worth spending the time ifit's an item, it might be super cool.
And if it was thrown up on eBayand you sold it for, I don't know,
20 bucks, that'd be worth it.
But if you've got to do a bunchof extra work to sell it, it
might not even be worth doing.
So it's something to think about.
That's true.

(37:37):
That's a really good point.
You have to think throughwhat are the risks?
When I sell things through eBay,eBay has a whole payment processing
system set up that you use.
So when the buyer buys.
You don't, as the seller know what paymentform they're using, are they using money
that's already in their account on eBay,are they using a credit card or are they
using, you don't know, but if I'm goingto meet somebody directly on Facebook

(38:03):
in a group, for example, usually peopleare buying things and using the PayPal
payment system, which depending on ifyou're using goods and services, or if
you're using the friends and family,It's a different amount that will be
taken, but I can tell you that if allyou lost was 13 and a half percent on

(38:24):
eBay, the most you're going to losethrough PayPal is like two or 3%, which
is maybe something that they would charge.
So the point is if I sell it, ProvidedI'm not underselling it, like selling
things to people for way less thanit's actually valued at the person I'm
selling these for stands to make moremoney because they're not losing the 13
and a half percent of the sale to eBay.

(38:45):
All they're going to lose iswhatever little piece that PayPal.
Once, but there areother risks there, right?
I can't go, the buyer and theseller can't go back to eBay.
If there's a issue andsay, Hey, help me out here.
Which isn't always the worst thingbecause sometimes I, many times
I've wasted a lot of time trying toget eBay support and didn't get it.
There is within PayPal.
You can contact PayPal if you feel likeyou were defrauded or something like that.

(39:08):
But I have sold collectionsof things to an individual.
On Facebook before, and it's nicecause you get the money instantly.
You don't have, eBay doesn't hold on toit and you may have been able to sell
it to at the highest price because.
You're directly interacting with aperson who collects that specific item

(39:31):
as much as we I don't think we complainabout eBay much on this show, but I
know that there's downsides for sure,but I feel like I do, but the benefit
to it is the reason why they can do it.
The reason why you keep going is becauseof things like what you just named.
So there are advantages.
There are downsides for sure,upsides on the flip thing.
All right.

(39:51):
Yeah.
Any other items that you wantto share with us today, Matt?
Are you?
I, not that have sold.
I've sold like 70 or 60or 70 of these orders.
I have to process the next few daysare just these hunting licenses.
I have, some gold filled jewelry.
I've got a bunch of gold andsilver jewelry still that I need
to list and some old belt buckles.
I got some cool stuff on the next episode.

(40:12):
We'll record in a couple of days.
I'll probably do a combinationof things that have sold and then
things that I'm about to list andgive some information on that stuff.
Because there are so manydifferent things out there that
people collect that have values.
A lot of those you, listener,likely have at your house right now.
Don't even have to lookoutside of your own house.
I'm going to start goingthrough my closets.
I'm telling you it's time.

(40:33):
All right listen, Matt,congratulations, wait for it.
I think we've got clappinggoing on in the background.
Maybe slow clap, slow clap.
Anyway, it has been one year.
It has been super fun.
I hope that we make it another year.
Audience, those of you that are outthere listening, loyal listeners,
I'd be curious to know if anybody'slistened to every episode.

(40:54):
That'd be, we'll do a poll, send us anemail if you've listened to every episode.
You might be, you could be whatwe call the super rusty fan
or the super what's old fan.
The super cousin.
Yeah, we'll send you, we'll send youlike a little plaque or something.
Not a plaque, but a piece ofpaper with a ribbon on it.
But we're going to send you a bowlingtrophy and we're leaving the top.
It's just changing the plaque.
Yeah, that's all it is.

(41:14):
It's going to be a bowlingtrophy, but it will say super
what's old podcast listener.
Anyway, thank you, Matt.
Any last words for the good peoplehere at the what's old podcast?
I don't know.
February is a low month for a lotof people don't, I think I said this
recently, but don't get discouraged.
It's going to pick back up in about a weekand a half when you hit March and when
some of the weather starts to improve,although it's it's going to be really cold

(41:38):
and wintry this whole week for a lot ofthe country, but don't get discouraged.
Good things are coming in the next month.
It'll pick up.
Nice.
All right, guys, thankyou so much for listening.
Thank you for beingpart of this experience.
We'll look forward to manymore episodes up front.
Remember to email us, followus, like us, subscribe to us,
write those darn reviews people.
We really appreciate it.
Otherwise, have a great rest of your week.

(42:00):
Remember, we'll be back witha brand new show next week.
Signing off.
Take care.
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