All Episodes

November 6, 2025 57 mins

Josh Peterson and Ryan Alters dive deep into one of MSPs’ longest-standing challenges — billable utilization — and the misconceptions that keep teams from mastering it. This episode breaks down how to calculate it correctly, why it matters more than ever in 2025, and how dispatchers, not just techs, drive the results.

✅ Enjoyed this episode? Like, subscribe, and share your biggest takeaway below. https://beringmckinley.com/bering-mckinley-podcast-blog

Josh Peterson and Ryan Alter tackle one of the biggest myths in MSP operations — billable utilization. After 20 years in consulting, Josh reveals why the same time-entry problems still plague MSPs, how to calculate utilization the right way, and why dispatchers, not techs, really own the number.

💡 In this episode: 👉 The real utilization formula (billable ÷ paid hours) 👉 Why 75 % is the true benchmark for MSPs 👉 How dispatcher scheduling drives utilization 👉 Using small bonuses to fix time-entry habits 👉 Why simple Excel tracking beats overbuilt dashboards

Get clear on what utilization means, how it drives profitability, and how to stop believing the lies MSPs tell themselves.

🔗 Resources & Links • Ryan Alter - Silverstream: https://www.silverstreamav.com • Bering McKinley MSP Consulting: https://beringmckinley.com • BMK Vision Podcast: https://beringmckinley.com/bering-mckinley-podcast-blog

⏱️ Chapters

00:00 – Intro & welcome 02:00 – The utilization problem 05:30 – The real formula 09:30 – Why 75 % matters 13:00 – Who owns utilization 17:30 – Bonuses & behavior 20:30 – Flaws in the metric 27:00 – Managed services shift 33:00 – Fixing bad data 36:00 – Tools vs simplicity 43:00 – Key takeaways & wrap-up

🔍 Keywords

msp utilization, billable hours, utilization formula, connectwise metrics, msp profitability, msp dispatcher, time entry management, managed service provider, msp kpis

#️⃣ Hashtags

#beringmckinley #bmkvisionpodcast #dontbethatguy #mspbusiness #utilizationrate #connectwise #mspsuccess #itconsulting #mspcoach #timeentry #servicedelivery #mspgrowth #businessmetrics #mspleadership #mspoperations #bmkvision

Mark as Played

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Ruthie's Table 4

Ruthie's Table 4

For more than 30 years The River Cafe in London, has been the home-from-home of artists, architects, designers, actors, collectors, writers, activists, and politicians. Michael Caine, Glenn Close, JJ Abrams, Steve McQueen, Victoria and David Beckham, and Lily Allen, are just some of the people who love to call The River Cafe home. On River Cafe Table 4, Rogers sits down with her customers—who have become friends—to talk about food memories. Table 4 explores how food impacts every aspect of our lives. “Foods is politics, food is cultural, food is how you express love, food is about your heritage, it defines who you and who you want to be,” says Rogers. Each week, Rogers invites her guest to reminisce about family suppers and first dates, what they cook, how they eat when performing, the restaurants they choose, and what food they seek when they need comfort. And to punctuate each episode of Table 4, guests such as Ralph Fiennes, Emily Blunt, and Alfonso Cuarón, read their favourite recipe from one of the best-selling River Cafe cookbooks. Table 4 itself, is situated near The River Cafe’s open kitchen, close to the bright pink wood-fired oven and next to the glossy yellow pass, where Ruthie oversees the restaurant. You are invited to take a seat at this intimate table and join the conversation. For more information, recipes, and ingredients, go to https://shoptherivercafe.co.uk/ Web: https://rivercafe.co.uk/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/therivercafelondon/ Facebook: https://en-gb.facebook.com/therivercafelondon/ For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iheartradio app, apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.com

The Joe Rogan Experience

The Joe Rogan Experience

The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.