June 5, 2025 • 75 mins
Welcome back our sexy and saucy listeners! Nikki regails us with the events of her night out with a group of friends who went out to karaoke, including one guy who completely failed and still acted like he was a headliner at a concert and another guy who bravely (and successfully) took on Whitney Houston’s “I Have Nothing”. This week, Samara just has a peaceful and uneventful life with basically no updates. We’ll take no news as good news! Yay, Samara!
Did you know that our bodies are actually made up of musical instruments? No? Well lucky for you, Samara will lead us through some of the bones that make us note-worthy (any puns are fully intended). To start, Nikki gives us a brief introduction to this thrilling and insightful topic, thanks to the Skelecaster from last week’s episode. For the chorus and verse, Samara takes us through the Indian, and later Tibetian, Kangling/Chod Kangling flute and trumpet, an Ancient Texan Tribe’s bone rasp, a Tibetian double sided skull drum/damaru, and a Central African Lyre made of a human skull!
With the coda (outro), Nikki tells us about a bust made out of one man’s frozen blood, a memoir of a thief bound in his own skin, a man that decorated his home in human remains (no, it isn’t Ed Gein), and the Indonesian Tana Toraja Tribe and their sacred treatment of their dead. As a bonus, she also includes Etsy jewelry made from human teeth, “ethically sourced” that is sold out of Atlanta and Richmond, Virginia (Yeah, we’re also concerned about the quotes around their sourcing).
Game this week: Truth or Drink! We aren’t drinking for this game, but we can still have fun. We’re also pretty sure this game was written by men. Tune in to hear the 8 cards we ask each other. Do you agree?
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Link to Etsy shop for knock off version of the Central African skull lyre: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1128425119/skull-lyre
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(00:23):
Hey everybody, how are you? Hello everybody, welcome to our
sauce box, yes? Welcome me to our sauce box.
I was just taking a picture of us before we started recording
and it completely threw off you saying hi to everybody.
So it did. I was like, what is she doing?
Is she recording me right now? OK, Because I was dancing a
(00:45):
little weird, so I wasn't sure. How have you been?
Oh, you know, another day in life surviving the allergies.
Fucking barely. Been miserable.
I did think that snap you sent me was really funny.
She sent me a snap of her wearing a cloth mask.
The only way she could survive being outside right now.
(01:06):
But it doesn't save my eyes, so you know, I'm just trying to get
by that. Sucks, I'm sorry.
Oh my goodness. I went out with some friends and
listened to them karaoke. They tried to get me to karaoke,
but I don't karaoke so. But I did watch them and most of
(01:26):
them are actually pretty good. One guy that was there, though,
who was like, you guys, you got to do Paramore, ain't it fun?
Somebody's got to do that. Like everybody's going to live
us on. Yeah.
Living in the real world. Yep, exactly.
So you're welcome for that. So you do karaoke?
(01:47):
Yep, in the podcast room with mysister or at Thanksgiving.
I think that's happened like twice.
Still counts. OK, you're right.
You're right. Anyway, so he wanted everybody
to do this song and nobody woulddo it.
So finally he's like, I'm going to do it.
This motherfucker gets up there.He doesn't even know the words
of the song. Granted, the words are on the
fucking screen, but he doesn't even know how to sing those
(02:08):
words and so he doesn't. Even know how to read.
That's what I thought you were going to say.
No, motherfucker was illiterate.He.
Doesn't he doesn't even know like the tune of the song.
And so he's like stumbling missing, like he's like singing
too slow and then he's going toofast.
He's kind of like all over the place.
And then he gets to the chorus and he knows the chorus.
(02:29):
So he like kills that, but then it goes back to another verse
and he was like, you guys help me out, help me out.
So everybody's like trying to sing this fucking Paramore song,
but turns out like maybe three people in the bar fucking know
how to like, know the tune to bethey like, sing it.
Oh, it was damn shame. It was a fucking disaster.
But you know, everybody was laughing their ass off.
And then at the end he goes, Oh my gosh, you guys, thank you so
(02:52):
much. This was so fun.
You guys are so cool. I was like bro.
This isn't a concert it. Was for him, apparently.
You guys were so fun. Like I was just like, what is he
good for having me? I was like, what?
It was by far and away the worstkaraoke.
Or like it was, it was so bad. I love that for him.
(03:15):
Yeah, he owned it. He he didn't fucking care.
And I have to say I was like very impressed by his lack of
give a fuck. I wish I could do that 'cause
then maybe I would do karaoke inpublic.
That is what I'm saying. I'm like, fuck, if I could like
give zero fucks like that for karaoke, then that'd be great.
But I'm like, Oh my gosh. Although I did tell my friend
that I would karaoke with her toShania Twain.
(03:37):
Hell yeah. Yeah.
So I'm like, OK everyone. Fucking loves Shania, are you?
Kidding me? Everybody loves Shania.
I would be. Fun men fucking will kick down
doors. When she says let's go girls,
they're like. Fuck yeah.
Yeah, girls, let's go. Anything for you, Shania.
Even fucking Gavin sings along to Shania.
(03:59):
I mean, come on. I know everybody loves Shania.
God, yeah, We all have massive girl crushes on Shania.
Everyone, everyone, everyone's got a crush on Shania.
Yeah, how could you not? She's so sexy, At least she was
in the 90s. Yeah, I mean, she still looks
good. Now she's.
Got a little bit too much plastic surgery for my taste,
but yeah. I haven't paid that much
attention. I only know because I saw her
(04:20):
recently on something and I was like, well, that's Shania was
like, what happened to her face?Yeah, I know.
I was like, your face was perfect.
What did you, what did you do toit?
Just. Age gracefully.
It's OK to age. Yeah, I mean, it's OK.
Yeah, it's crazy. Anyways, so.
So because I didn't karaoke withher at the bar, I I was given
her a ride home. So I was like, I got something
(04:42):
for you. She's like what?
And I put it on Shania Twain radio and we just melted out
three different Shania Twain, Shania Twain songs like at the
top of our lungs on the way home.
It was. It was spectacular.
I love that for you guys. It was really fun.
That sounds fabulous. It was, it was really good and I
was like, well, shit, I don't know.
And plus it was like such a goodvibe of people that I went with.
(05:04):
I only knew like 3 of the peoplein this group of like 10, maybe
15, I don't know. There were a lot of people there
and the entourage, yeah, they were all like super, super
supportive of each other. Anybody that got up to karaoke,
we were all just like hooting and hollering and cheering.
Like it was like super good vibes.
Like nobody was, you know, it wasn't like where you see
(05:25):
karaoke sometimes people get up and like the people they came
with are cheering for for them and everybody else is doing
their own thing. No, everybody is cheering for
you and everybody is like applauding you that.
That might encourage me enough to maybe.
Try. Yeah, and they're all sets, all
sorts of different, like talents, you know, some people
that were terrible and somethingthat were amazing.
(05:46):
One guy this like middle-aged fat white dude with crazy facial
hair. Don't know what that means, but
alright it. Was like the weirdest scraggly
goatee beard thing. Oh.
Yes, but no mustache and nothingcoming up to connect the rest of
the facial hair to hit the his head of hair.
It was just a very interesting, it was choice.
(06:08):
It was odd, but anyways, so he surprised everybody And sing a
Whitney Houston song. What?
Yeah, he sang a Whitney Houston song.
I can't remember what the song was, but it was one that was
that she wrote for. What was it the movie she did
with Harrison Ford? No idea.
(06:28):
Bodyguard so anyways, but he. Did he fucking kill it?
He did. Everybody likes Whitney Houston
also. So the whole bar was singing
along, but he he like, she goes high and he went high.
We're like fucking stop. Oh my God.
Like, hell yeah, man. It was crazy.
(06:49):
I think because we all realized that he was doing Whitney
Houston and we're like, wait, you're doing Whitney like you
should. Yeah, but that's risky.
It was fun. It was really fun that.
Sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah, I was like, fuck, OK, I
kind of want to do this again, actually.
And I fucking hate karaoke. I didn't know that about you.
Yeah, I hate karaoke. Karaoke.
If I go to bars and like karaokebegins, usually I finish my
(07:11):
drink and I leave. I don't even like to be around.
Like, it's usually just too fucking painful for me to even
sit there and listen. I hate it so much.
But I actually had a really fucking good time.
Yeah, it was. That's good.
Yeah, I guess. The the crowd really helps.
Yeah, and the group of people I was, it was just, God, the vibes
were so fucking great. I loved it.
And the staff at this bar were amazing.
(07:34):
Like, just really. Yeah, it was, it was fucking.
It was great. That's awesome.
And I actually like talk 'cause we talked about this briefly
where you had said you had Tinder for a minute and then you
got rid of it and then you met Gavin.
Yeah. And then for my friend MO, she
was kind of doing the same thing.
And she got rid of her online dating and then met this chick
(07:55):
who things are going smashingly and I fucking hope it stays that
way for them. Oh, I hope so too.
Yeah, love it and. Well, in that spirit, happy
Pride Month, everybody. Yeah, so I had two different men
approach me at the bar and give me their numbers, which was very
sweet. Neither of them have a chance in
(08:16):
hell, but but I was like, OK, OK, you know, there's this is
something but then, right. But then there was another guy
that was with our group and he'she's an attractive dude.
He's tall, like 6 three. He was like a former minor
League Baseball player. Cool dude, very outgoing.
He was the one who absolutely murdered Paramore Song.
(08:40):
But he's got like a really greatpersonality.
He's super funny and outgoing. My only thing, and he was like
super into me. But my only thing is that he's a
ginger and I. Don't like her own kind?
Generally don't like gingers. Oh my God.
But you know what? I, we were all out in the
fucking parking lot talking and somebody goes, well, you know,
(09:02):
like gingers are, are heart black, right?
And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, like that.
I, I heard that or whatever. And then somebody was like,
yeah, they're red velvet. And we were like, wait, what?
And they're like, yeah, they're red velvet.
I was like Oh my God, I fucking love that so much.
Not heard that I heard the wholewhole black thing, but red
velvet. I know I was like, I, I'm, I
(09:23):
love that. Jake, don't let that go to your
head, my guy. Fuck yeah, so that is.
Cool as shit, I like that a lot.Well, then this dude, he's like
red velvet. He's like, that's cool.
He's like, wait, I thought we were just chocolate dipped
carrots. And then everyone's like, what
the? Fuck, sounds horrible.
Yes, like that sounds disgusting.
(09:44):
What are you talking about? To God.
So gosh, yeah, it was the night was full of all sorts of gold
Nuggets. It was just, it was beautiful.
Tipped carries. That could be a fun merch idea.
Oh my gosh. Piper, write that down.
(10:08):
Oh my gosh. Actually, Jake, Jason, one of
y'all scribble that down somewhere.
Yeah, so we don't forget kind ofhave our own assistance with
them now. We do.
We do. Yes.
They they're fucking phenomenal and amazing.
And they've been helping us withresearch and all that good
stuff. And also kind of our biggest
cheerleaders. So, yeah, we love you guys so
very much, Jason. You know I love you, love you,
(10:28):
love you so, so much. Thank you.
That was whole, whole body. It is whole body love.
Don't let that go to your head though either, actually.
Nah, you guys are the bee's knees.
You guys are chocolate dipped carrots and all.
Okay, well, Jason isn't a fucking ginger, so he's not any
of that. That's fine.
(10:51):
Oh my gosh. Anyway, so that's, that's kind
of my, my like catching you all up.
Oh, that's cool. I have a pretty peaceful my
little life. Love it.
Yeah, I love that for you. Me too.
Me too. That's good.
Well, I think we just, you want to just jump right in because we
kind of have a lot of shit to cover this week, you guys.
And I think you're going to be really excited about the topic
(11:12):
that we have chosen. You're going to be learning some
shit today, hey? Hey, you're going to learn
today. Yeah, we're going to learn you.
So thanks to the Skelecaster, which Samara introduced all of
us to last week. Insert cool metal guitar riff.
(11:32):
Consider it done. We decided to go on a deep dive.
So for those of you that didn't listen to last week's episode,
the Skelecaster is a guitar, an electric guitar made from the
bones of this guy, Uncle yes, ofUncle Phillip.
And it is his rib cage, his spinal cord, his pelvis.
(11:53):
Like there's like a whole, wholelot happened in there.
Go to our Instagram if you want to see pictures of it 'cause it
looks tight. It's crazy.
Metal as fuck. Metal as fuck.
For real. Yes.
Yeah. Apparently Uncle Phillip was
like a major metal head. So yeah, yeah.
Anyways, because of this, we gotto thinking what else has been
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made from human body parts? And so it was just we decided to
do a little deep dive on that and that's what we're going to
be talking about today. We are going to be talking about
what else has been made from human body parts and just a
little background. So human and animal remains,
bone schools, they have long been associated with musical
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instruments. For those of you that didn't
know that either as a decoration, as a part of these
these instruments or as the key component.
Also, schools of warriors slain in battle were once hung on
Asante royal drums. In Iguana and the Ivory Coast,
human and animal thigh bones have been used to make trumpets
called kongling, which smear is going to go into those for us,
(13:01):
as well as skuldrums called damaru.
And she's also going to tell us about those.
How. Yeah, those were used actually
in Tibet in connection with meditation traditions, which
focused on the impermanence of life and material existence.
They were also thought to be powerful tools for protection
against evil. So she is going to give us the
(13:21):
rundown of different musical instruments made from human body
parts. And then when she's done with
that, I am going to let you guysin on some things that are just
made from human body parts. Not instruments, but just
Samara. Take it away, did you?
Just finger gut anything. No, no it wasn't.
It was like the put up bumps. Yes, that OK.
(13:46):
OK, anyways, well, all righty then.
Starting off this installment ofour bodies are made of musical
instruments waiting to be playedin the afterlife.
First up, we have the Kongling. It is originally in from India.
Kong being leg, Ling being flute.
The Kongling is part of an ensemble of sacred instruments
(14:09):
that emerged from the tantric Crucible of India some 1500
years ago. They thought it would.
Have been a lot older than that,but I guess 1500 years is
actually cut up a long time. Never mind.
Yeah, I'm still blown away that 20/20 was 5 years ago.
So, right, OK, OK, continue carrying on.
They're used for both their profound symbolic meaning and as
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objects possessing inherent spiritual power.
These instruments began arrivingin Tibet around 880 and the Kong
Ling appeared in the Himalayan region sometime over the next
century. After the development of the
chode, which is a ritual and meditative practice of cutting
like cutting one's body. Reading it, it made me think it
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was loosely resembles like bloodletting but of a like a
spiritual ritual practice. So after the development of of
chode, we see the emergence of the thigh bone as an important
and widespread ritual instrumentwhich then spread into the
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Tibetan regions. So the chode.
I'm sorry, but you should say chode.
I just. I know.
Yep. OK, you all get your, are you?
Guys all there too, OK. You keep saying it and I'm like.
It's not spelled the same. It's CHOD, if that.
How do we usually? Spell it.
(15:39):
I spelled it CHOAD or with an E at the end.
Oh, OK. Usually the the OA, so I would
spell chode like the chode that we're all giggling about.
Yeah, it was like CHODE for me. So a chode for me, a chode for
me, bro, bro. OK.
(16:00):
Anyways, we're professionals in this bitch.
That's fucking right. So the chode kongling is the
length of sorry, shit. All right.
So the chode congling is the length of a femoral bone from
the knee joint up to about halfway up the thigh.
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So the size of the trumpet, which it's it's referred to as a
trumpet, varies according to thestature of the person that came
from, obviously. Yeah, tracks.
So it's, they're usually around 12 inches in overall length with
a about a three inch diameter along the shaft.
A hollow path is created by removing the bone marrow and
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holes are made into the the two sides of the knee, like where
you're where it looks like there's knuckles at the top.
So in there these are also hollowed out to create 2 bells,
creating a kind of double headedtrumpet.
The blowing end is usually scalloped or bevelled inward
slightly to form a a conical mouthpiece.
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So like a a cone shaped mouthpiece, this makes an
effective horn capable of surprisingly loud and piercing
sounds. Loud and piercing OK.
Do a YouTube OK yeah, YouTube it.
In order to keep the inside dry and free of microorganisms,
beeswax is poured through the instrument and then a hot metal
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rod is used to clear the centralpath.
This creates A moisture barrier as well as making the sound more
resonant and clear. So it's not as shrill.
Because I found a video where someone was playing it before
they did the beeswax thing and then after they had done the
beeswax with the hot iron central path.
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This creates A moisture barrier.So this creates A moisture
barrier as well as making the sound more resonant.
Clear, fresh bones were readily available in old Tibet, where,
as it still occurs today, a corpse is dismembered and fed to
the vultures during traditional sky burials.
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Now, as as then, such rights areoften presided over by chopez.
I'm hoping I'm saying that right.
They're just like spiritual leaders using rituals that
transformed the final offering of the body into a sacred act.
Bro they dismember the body and then feed it to the vultures.
Circle the life, I can't get over it.
(18:35):
Circle the. Life.
It's a circle of life. Yep, nailed it.
We could afford getting sued by Disney.
No, next thing you know, we're going to be homeless on the.
Street. Not even a chord.
Bard cord? What cardboard box that was
(18:59):
Really. You struggled with that?
You know what? Moving on, some traditions even
mentioned Konglings being made of tiger bone and others vulture
bone as being highly auspicious.Or if you don't have a
thesaurus, favorable. Did I?
Did you understand the word I just said?
Yep, OK, favorable. But elsewhere this is frowned
upon. An all metal, copper or brass
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form of the trumpet is also simply called a congling.
Are used in a variety of tantricrituals.
Their sound, however, is higher pitched and far more intense and
piercing. But this kind of copper trumpet
is never used in chode. I do have to say, even though
we're talking about sacred rituals, the brass callings that
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they're talking about, when you see, we'll attach a picture.
It looks like a a nut sack. It does.
There's just no getting around it.
That's look at this and tell me I'm wrong.
Yeah, no, that looks like a fucking nut sack.
It looks like a nut sack that's been encased.
It really does. Yep.
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It's a nut sack gonna a really beautiful nut sack.
Bedazzled with jewels, even. Next up, we have an ancient
Texan tribe crafted upper arm bone turned into an instrument.
This one has been determined that it's from the late
prehistoric South Texas area around 1300 to 1528 AD.
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While such artifacts haven't been found in the area before,
which is amazing, they even found these similar instruments
are well documented from centralMexico's Highlands.
What do they call those humorousflutes?
It's not a flute. Oh, what is it?
I haven't gotten to it yet. Oh.
Well, you're just, it's funny because they're like, you know,
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the one trumpets are made of thefemoral bone.
But then this one is like the upper arm bone.
It's like, OK, but it's a humorous bone.
Just FYI for people. It's not very humorous.
I'm. Just saying forget to fucking
say what they are, let's call them, but they are not where
they're located. It's not a a humorous topic, but
you know this is a musical rasp crafted from a human upper arm
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bone bearing humorous bone. Well aren't don't we have
different bones? Or is it it's just that our
forearm that has the 2? Yeah, we have ulmer and radius
or radial, ulmer and radial in our forearms and then in our
upper arm is the humorous bone. OK, so it's a musical rasp
crafted from a humoral bone. Thank you.
You're welcome. Bearing 29 precisely etched
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notches like. This is that what I said
precisely Take 20. This is going.
To be a shit show to edit. Fuck taking it from the top,
it's a musical rasp created froma humeral bone, right?
Yeah, OK. Bearing 29 precisely etched
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notches likely intended to produce sound when scraped with
another object. So like the oh, oh, can I like
those like toads or frogs, like made out of wood.
Exactly. Sometimes.
Yeah. OK, that's exactly right.
OK on the reverse side in zigzagging.
Fuck me. Zigzagging geometric patterns
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serve as decorative. You're keeping this.
Me decorative elements adding a visual demonstration.
It says to mention what? The fuck is happening?
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God this is beautiful. I.
Couldn't read, I swear to God. Oh my God, take 3.
Oh, take a deep breath. As Dad will always say, take a
deep breath. Think about what you want to
say. Maybe if I take my glasses off,
maybe that's the problem. My glasses are keeping me from
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speaking clearly. Yes, that's probably what it
was. Yeah, on the reverse side,
zigzagging geometric patterns serve as decorative elements,
adding a visual dimension to theinstruments functional design.
OK boom, banging its way into position three we have the
double sided skuldrum. And from the pictures, because I
(23:25):
didn't see anything that actually clarified if it was a
drum made out of a single skull or if it was, they look like 2
skulls. That's that's my guess.
Yeah, when I was looking at themI thought they look like it was
2 skulls. So this specific drum is also
from Tibet, likely 19th century.It's made out of human bone,
(23:48):
leather and clappers attached with string.
Yeah. So these these are kind of like
those you would almost see them like at toy shops where it's
like a two sided drum with a little string and a a ball at
the end of it. And it's got like a long handle.
And you would spin them between your hands and it would just
like boom, boom, boom, go back and forth, back and forth.
And this is essentially what that is without the long stick.
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Yeah. So.
Exactly. Yeah, it is a double headed drum
fashion from tops of human schools joined at their apexes
so like the the crown of your head and has been part of the
standard ritual paraphernalia for practitioners of leader
forms of tantric Buddhism since the time of their rise in India.
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OK, the skuldrum falls under thebroader category of a double
sided hand drum or the Demaru thank you, which are most
commonly made of wood and whose heads may be round or in an
elongated shape that approximates that of a skull.
They may be adorned with ribbons, tassels, bells and
(24:55):
other fancy things. Other fancy.
Things you know, whatever you feel like, basically make it
yours. Yeah, put some flair, pizzazz.
Give them the razzle dazzle. Just picturing a bunch of like,
like Tibetan monks and Buddha's just like, give us some Raza
dazzle. But you all that shit, oh, we're
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being so disrespectful. That's why it's always so hot in
this room. Oh, we just get close to hell.
Sorry. Actually, we don't get close to
hell. Hell comes close to us.
It's like, slowly creeping in. Yeah, Getting closer and closer.
One of these days it's going to swallow up.
Yeah. And then we're going to fucking,
(25:39):
you know, one of these episodes will be streaming straight from
hell. So, yeah, so if you know of
someone down there. Let us know, we'll say hi for
you. Yeah.
Maybe we'll have them on the pod.
We are so fucked. Jesus.
Yeah, well, you know what? That motherfucker, he just ain't
trying to be found. So practitioners basically hold
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the drum. What Nikki was talking about
earlier, they hold the drum in their right hand with a leather
strap that goes around their wrist for securement.
You know, so you don't drop it. Fingers towards the sky and
rotate their wrists back and forth, causing the clappers to
strike the drum across the stretch.
Leather. Thank Beyoncé.
(26:20):
See the ladies. Could you imagine this had like
a double sided skull drop? Well, that's that's how they
would hold it, so there. You go, there you go.
There's a nice visual for y'all.So Beyoncé and all her Single
Ladies holding dull side. It's called Trump.
(26:40):
That would be scary as fuck boy.Y'all about to stay single as
fuck too? Yeah, where do you think we got
the skulls from? So the practitioner's left hand
is leftover for other ritualistic implements such as a
handbell or the the chode congling that I first spoke
about and then finally in our body is made of musical
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instruments instalment we have aCentral African liar, liar liar
liar liar liar liar, pants on fire made from human skin, skull
hair, intestines and antelope horns.
It's badass. You guys should check it out.
It does look cool as shit. I'm worried where the intestine
(27:27):
part the strings. Oh, we just learned that
together, everybody. Wait till you guys see what this
fucking thing looks like it is. Dude, it's red as.
Fuck shit it is. It's so fucking cool that you
can actually, like, people have created duplicates of this, like
knockoffs that you can buy on Etsy for like 370 dollars.
Yeah, it and the Scallocaster ispretty metal, but comparatively
(27:49):
this is metal as fuck. It really is.
It's yeah. Check it out.
So it was purchased from an unnamed dealer back in 1889, and
it was originally thought to have originated from South
America when it was cataloged in19 O Six.
There is no known tradition to which this instrument may be
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assigned, although some have suggested it might be a symbolic
or clandestine ritual use. Most likely it is a sensational
item made by a clever indigenousentrepreneur for a trade and
profit with Europeans. Basically no one fucking knows.
Someone was just feeling crafty one day.
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They're like, oh, these white traders, they're going to
fucking love the shit out of this.
Somebody was like. What the I got a rhino skull
around here somewhere digging through cupboards.
Wow. I don't know, man.
So it's being currently held at the Metropolitan Museum of Art
in New York. Anyway, there you fucking have
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it. Your body is a Wonderland made
of musical instruments, just like John Mayer said.
Wow. He said that that's a direct
quote. He said your body is a
Wonderland made of musical instruments.
Yep, I know the body is a Wonderland part.
I don't think you're telling the.
Truth. No, no, don't dig into it too,
too hard, not too deep. Surf's level.
OK. OK.
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Moving on. Moving on to the next topic,
that was not it. That was it.
We're. Keeping that.
Oh shit. OK, so I'm gonna talk to you
guys about a few things that arejust made from human body parts.
The first thing we're gonna talkabout is this dude named Mark
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Quinn, who was inspired by Rembrandt in all the self
portraits that he did. And he was like, you know what?
I'm also going to do a self-portrait.
However, my self portraits are going to be much more creative.
I'm concerned just because of what topic we have today.
You should be concerned. Great.
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OK, so Mark Quinn, he basically would create sculptures of his
head from his frozen blood. This whole episode's just metal
as fuck. I know.
So this dude, he would go into the doctor every six weeks and
have a pint of blood drawn, justlike if you were donating blood.
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And once he got about 9 pints ofblood, he would freeze it all
into, you know, I don't know, a block, some kind of shape or
whatever. And then he would sculpt his
head. And he has done this every five
years since 1991. What?
Yes. Yes, what the fuck?
Yes, yeah, it's crazy. So he said one of the things
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that he loves about these sculptures is that there's about
60 pints of his blood out there in the world and he is still
alive, a testament to the regenerative ability of the
human body. I mean, it is pretty amazing
when you think about it that way.
Yeah. So at the end of the year, he
uses that blood to make those frozen sculptures of his.
What sculptures? Frozen, if it's frozen.
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All right. Calm down, Missy Elliott.
Oh my God. So he refers to this series as
Self, which I thought was funny because our aunt actually has a
series called Self. It's an artist thing.
You wouldn't get it. Right, yeah, it must be, yes.
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So anyway, so it's called Self, Quinn said in an interview with
Huffington Post. In a funny way, I think Self the
Frozen Head series is about the impossibility of immortality.
This is an artwork on life support.
If you unplug it, it turns into a pool of blood.
It can only exist in a culture where looking after art is a
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priority. It's unlikely to survive
revolutions, wars, and social upheaval.
I also think that the total selfportraitness of using my blood
and my body as an ironic factor as well, and that OR is an
ironic factor as well. And that even though the
sculpture is my form and made from the material of my body, to
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me it just emphasizes the difference between a truly
living person and the materials which make that person up.
The sort of literalist point that has been missed by the
cryptogenesis. Who frees themselves for
supposed future regeneration? I mean, that's an excellent
point, that it can only survive where in an area that art is
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important and a priority. Yeah.
No, that's kind of poetic. I know, right?
He took something really kind ofcreepy and kind of a cob.
Yeah, and turned it into that soand these are actually pretty
cool. I was hoping that you had some
pictures. What?
Why is it kind of it's like mostly red like you would think,
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but it has some grayish black spots that kind of look.
They kind of look like charcoal.Yeah, yeah, it's definitely got
different colors. I'm assuming it's just probably
like the age of the blood and like oxidant.
Oxidization or probably, yeah, Idon't know so interesting so.
Yeah, that is very interesting. Yeah.
So morbidly beautiful. Yeah, so you know, sculptures of
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this dudes head made from his own blood and there are several.
Out there in the world, do you have a price for those?
I didn't see anything that he was actually selling them.
I think some are in a couple museums and I think that's about
it. But I'll have links.
You guys can go dig in on that more if you've got more
questions. Yeah, I don't know how just a
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regular Joe Schmo could fucking buy something like that.
Like you just keep it in your freezer at home.
That does feel like a strictly museum, kind of.
Like, it's a very elaborate setup to be able to have this on
display. Yeah, yeah.
So you got to be fucking wealthyas fuck.
Amen, brother. Yeah.
OK, next, next we have a memoir bound in the thief's own skin.
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You heard that right. So the Boston Athenaeum is home
to about 150,000 rare books. And in a locked room, tucked
into a custom made box, there isa particularly curious book.
It's about the size of a regularpaperback, but it is the memoir
of a career criminal by the nameof James Allen.
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His alias was George Walton. The light grey cover bears a
Latin phrase which I'm not goingto even pretend to know how to
pronounce, but it is translated into This book was bound in
Walton's skin. Oh, yes, that feels like
something you shouldn't say in Latin.
Yeah, right. It's yeah.
Now I will say, when you look atthe cover of this book, it
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doesn't look ominous. It just looks leather bound like
it doesn't. It's not creepy looking in any
kind of way necessarily. So it was well.
Done it was well done so Ellen. He was born in Lancaster, MA in
18 O 9 to a struggling family. He fell into a life at crime at
the age of 15 after a chance meeting with a master thief, and
then he went and spent most of his life in and out of different
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jails. While incarcerated he would read
books, learn trades, and get on well with everybody, but as soon
as he got out, he'd returned directly to burglaring and Hwy.
robbing and such. Eventually, he died of
tuberculosis in a state prison in Charleston, Massachusetts.
But before he died, he decided that he wanted to tell the story
of his life to the prison's warden.
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He asked to him though. Well he he asked the warden to
write it down. Oh OK.
So obviously he was like no, I just want the warden to know
about me. No.
So if he got the warden to do this for him, like he was
clearly a very likable dude. He got people on side pretty
easily. Like I don't imagine that
especially back in the early 1800s, it would have been easy
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to get a warden to do anything for you.
Probably not. I imagine you know wardens back
then giving 0 fucks about their inmates.
Yeah. You know, so 100% so.
So he also made another request,which was a bit more unusual.
He asked that enough of his skinbe tanned to provide bindings
for 2 copies of this book. Yeah.
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So not only just one copy, but 2copies of this book.
All right. One copy of the book went to his
doctor, and the other was to go to John Fenno Junior, one of
Alan's victims, who he considered to be, quote, the
only man who had ever stood up to him.
Yeah, yeah. So I get to be gifted a book
made out of your skin. Mm.
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Hmm. A sufficient piece of skin was
removed from Ellen's back and taken to a local tannery, where
it was treated to look like Graydeer skin and then finally
delivered into the hands of a book binder.
Yeah, sorry. Anyway, so this might seem kind
of crazy to do, but it actually wasn't that that that uncommon.
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It was actually somewhat common to flag criminals and use their
hides for books. What?
Yes. I'm sorry, fucking excuse me.
Yes, we're but in Alan's case, he wanted he that was voluntary
for him, like it was an actual like personal request.
I'm sorry that was commonplace. It wasn't common.
It was, well, it was somewhat common.
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It wasn't unheard of. That's some wild.
Shit, yes. So it is the practice of binding
texts in human skin, and it dates back to the French
Revolution, when a number of copies of the French
Constitution were supposedly bound in the skin of those who
opposed the New Republic. That'll teach you.
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That'll fucking learn you. Yeah, those those books can
actually be seen in the museum in in a museum in Paris, Museum
Carnival A oh, wow. Yeah, by the 19th century, most
the most common use was by physicians, one in particular,
John Stockton, Doctor John Stockton, Hugh or Howe.
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So Doctor John Stockton Howe bound three medical volumes in
the skin of a patient with the first diagnosed case of
trichinosis, which is a parasitic disease caused by
eating undercooked meat with infected roundworm larvae.
Yeah, pork, in other words. And then, you know, just other.
Yeah. I could have.
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Yep, sorry. Anyways, others used cadavers
that they had obtained from public executions.
So this was like a thing doctorswould do?
That's just fucking weird. So your anatomy books were made
of anatomy? Bringing the lesson to you.
Oh my God. Books such as The Dance of Death
were being bound in human skin as late as the 1890s.
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Many of these books now belong to libraries, including John the
John Hay Library at Brown University, the Library of the
College of Physicians in Philadelphia, and potentially
the Cleveland Public Library andthe library of Harvard Law
School. I love that.
Potentially. OK, well, it's unclear exactly
how this skin book got into the anathenium.
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Athanani Ath. Oh, fuck me.
Well, it is Athenian OK anyways.Well, it's unclear exactly how
this book got into the Athenian library.
Anecdotal evidence suggests thatit was donated by John Fenno
Junior's daughter sometime in the 19th century.
There it still sits today, describing the man that is also
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made from. It is no longer on permanent
display though. Just FYI for all yours.
What do they do that they just store it somewhere in a
basement? Yeah, protected, obviously,
because books are sacred. Well, yeah, even if they're made
of human skin. Some would argue more so
because. OK, that indeed.
Looking at you, Vatican. Oh my gosh.
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OK, now this isn't necessarily something that is made of human
remains. It's more just kind of a creepy
little tidbit that involves human remains.
OK, so the FBI had gotten a warrant to search the home of
James, not who was suspected of stealing the human remains of
corpses and then selling them onthe black market.
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So. Like a grave robber.
Yeah, OK. So when the FBI asked not is
there anybody here, anybody elsehere in the home with you?
He said, only my dead friends. Oh.
Friends. Yes.
So the FBI searched his home andthey found that he had decorated
his home with the stolen human remains.
No, including several skulls around the back of his couch,
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one on his bed where he slept. Oh, don't like that?
One skull even had a scarf around it.
In total, they found 40 human skulls, spinal cords, femurs and
hip bones. 40. Right.
Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy?
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I know you're like. Cute.
Friends, huh? Yeah.
The neighbors were like, we had no idea.
He seems so normal. That's what that's that's they
always say that. They always say that.
Mm, hmm. Yep.
Next door neighbors. My eyes are buggin to top it
off. Which has nothing to do with
human body parts. He also had an insane arsenal of
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guns. I don't like that combination.
Yes, yeah, I don't like it. Yeah, neither did any of his
neighbors. That's fair.
You don't like it and you don't even know the guy or live
anywhere near him. The people that lived near him
and knew him and saw him every day were like what the what the
fuck what? Stop.
There's kids in this apartment complex.
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What is happening? Was he living in an apartment?
Yes. No.
Yes. Why does that make it worse?
I know. Oh, I don't like.
That yeah, pretty not fucking awesome.
See, apartment living is just the worst.
Just the word you. Never know who your fucking
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neighbors are. Fucking truly damn.
Okay, my last one for you guys is one that my friend Jason
turned me on to that he had likediscovered or heard of through
like a documentary or something they did watch a while back.
But this son is a little bit about the Tana Taraja tribe in
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Indonesia. OK, So I I will.
I will. So Indonesia's Tarajan Hill
tribe is known for its animalistic funeral rites that
involve caring for the dead at home, sometimes for years after
they've died until a Buffalo hasbeen sacrificed.
Yes. Now you're wondering what the
fuck does this mean? Yeah.
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So Tarajans practice a class based society, So funerals of
the Richard nobleman are more extravagant to mark their
status. Their graves are well decorated
with statues in their image known as Tao Taos, and the most
elite noblemen who have sacrificed more than 23
buffaloes have monoliths erectedin their honor.
I am, yeah. So kind of crazy, but still not
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so bad that's it gets worse. Just fucking sit tight.
Yep, holding on to my butt. The dead are never forgotten and
continue to be attended to through a unique ritual called
manana. After the yearly harvest, whole
families and villages help to exhume their dead, dry them out
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in the sun for a few days. The dead are then carefully and
affectionately cleaned, given new clothes, their hair is
combed and styled, and they are bestowed with jewelry, toys,
musical instruments and other such items.
Kind of lovely, actually. Some bodies are even erected
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onto bamboo poles and families gather to take group photos with
them. Just like any joyful occasion,
like a birthday party or a. Wedding ceremony.
All right, I don't know about that.
You had me in the first first part.
I don't like the way you're laughing right now.
It's just oh, the pictures. The pictures are just fucking
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crazy. Like they literally do this
every year until a family is able to sacrifice a Buffalo and
then the body, that family member is laid to rest
eternally. So every year they dig up their
family members, Children, grandparents, parents, siblings,
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it doesn't matter. So like I'm assuming it starts
from when they die, so yeah. And it is so you look at, like,
these coffins and stuff, they are decorated like, it's their
own little, like, personal space.
You know, they're all, they looklike they're, you know, in their
favorite clothes They got, you know, just like, they're like
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living their best life in their coffin for that year while
they're all, like, buried. OK.
There's a picture of three men actually carrying one of the
bodies. They put sunglasses.
No, they didn't. On their face.
On the corpses face. Is it like skeletal remains?
They're like mummified. Okay, yeah, well that that is
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partially why I asked I guess why or like if it starts the
year that they die? Because I was thinking, so
depending on how deep you bury somebody, it slows decay.
So you could be potentially. Yeah, like they they essentially
are mummifying them. OK, that really changes.
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So it's not like skeletons that I mean, you know, their skin is
leather. And so they're not actively
still decomposing. No.
OK, yeah. So you can see, like, you know,
they've got like gloves they're putting on rings.
They're like dusting off and kind of cleaning their skin,
styling their hair, dressing them.
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Oh, wow. Posing them.
Yeah, I'm showing Samara some ofthese pictures.
It's pretty wild, you guys. It's it's definitely.
Oh, that one's a little makes mefeel a certain way.
Very good. It's got the very like Indiana
Jones kind of vibe to it for sure.
Yeah, no, I feel better about itbecause when you were first
saying that, I was thinking likethe bodies were still going to
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be decomposing. They weren't mummified, but the
fact that they are very well preserved, actually.
Yeah, it definitely changes thatmake my outlook better.
Yeah. This is a child.
Oh, that's just sad. But yeah, So, you know, they're
just that one's not as well preserved.
But yeah, coffins are, like, padded inside it looks like.
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Yeah, Very nice. Nice garments.
Soaps maybe? Yeah, and here you have a
granddaughter posing with her grandmother.
Yeah, you can tell that there's a lot of really honoring the
dead. With this, it's very
interesting. Here's a family portrait where
you've got, you know, the two, the two parents and then all the
children. OK, so, so this is actually a
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gravesite. So it's a hillside boulder and
it serves as a gravesite for a single Tarajan family.
So this is where. So it's like a it's like a
version of a, a family burial plot.
Yeah. Like a crypt.
Yeah. Little bamboo ladders.
OK. And then there's the what they
call the Tao Taos, so which is like a really elaborate kind of
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crypt barrel site. And then what they'll do is
above that they will actually carve out of wood different
their family members. So they carve out a wooden dress
them so so each figure is representative, representative
of who is buried in that crypt or in that burial.
Site OK, nice. Yeah, so, but that's only the
really wealthy family. Yeah.
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I can't imagine that would be something that was cheap.
Yeah. So it's pretty, it's pretty
interesting. I mean, it takes a lot of work,
obviously, because they're carving these into to rock.
There's a lot of work, a lot of a lot of time and effort and
attention that goes into this. It's a bit creepy at first, I
think, but the more you kind of dig into it and really
understand the culture and the their reasoning and the absolute
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utter respect that they have fortheir their family members.
Yeah. It really changes the
perspective. It does.
It really changes the perspective, and it's actually
turns into something quite beautiful.
Yeah. Wow.
OK, that was OK. Yes.
No more. Stop it.
Yes. So, you know, it's just, it's
interesting like, you know, I mean, look at this like their
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hair, teeth. Just don't have.
Some glasses like, yeah, it's just crazy.
So it's it's very interesting. I'll post several pictures of
the Taurasian family members. So it's actually a very
beautiful practice. Yeah, I thought so too.
It was very interesting. My last little bit for you guys
is if you are interested in owning jewelry, person jewelry
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made from human teeth, there is an Etsy shop or two or two.
Yes, yes, there's actually 2 Etsy shops. 1 is out of Atlanta
and the other one is out of Richmond, VA.
The one in Richmond, VA is called Black Urn Jewelry and the
one in Atlanta, I can't actuallyremember what it's called so
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don't worry about that one but you can find it anyways.
But bone or not bone, but teeth are actually legal to sell
because they're not considered bone.
So it's not illegal to sell teeth.
I'm not going to lie, I'm posting a picture of a tooth
ring but. We'll see about that.
Yes, but I what I love is like the the Atlanta one.
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Their whole thing is like all ofour teeth are quote ethically
sourced UN quote. What do you mean?
Yeah, like they quoted their own.
Thing. Ethically, yeah, I was like,
well, that. Feels you get in bar fights and
taking people's teeth. Like what do you mean?
I feel weird that you had to putethically sourced in quotes that
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feels not ethically sourced. Yeah.
We're just saying this to make you all feel better.
It's not working. I don't feel better, right?
Oh my gosh, so if you. Didn't say anything, I would
have just. Gone along with it, right.
I know I I thought that was justso I would have just assumed
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they were ethically sore. Right.
The fact that you had to say it and then you put it in quotes is
just feels opposite of what you're saying is what it feels
like. Yeah, it does.
Yeah. It's like up for you guys.
I think we all learned a lot here.
We did. You can.
There's so much more, you guys. Oh, my gosh.
They're like the Victorian era was they had a massive movement
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where they made about anything you could think of from human
hair. They would do like cross
stitching with human hair. There would be morning like, as
in grieving morning jewelry thathad human hair in it like and
beautifully like tied or braidedor patterns created with it
surrounded by rubies and emeralds.
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They would do really elaborate and ornate small little
sculptures, all made from hair that look like branches of trees
and little flowers. Like really pretty.
Just a lot of yeah, hair was like a big, big thing, but hair
didn't seem very MC Cobb to me. So I was like, whatever, but you
know. There was a whole era there for
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that. So yeah, I mean, just a
renewable resource. Pretty interesting.
Well, hope y'all learned some stuff today.
Oh. If any of you already knew all
of this. We need a, we need to talk.
What else you know? Yeah.
Also, do you decorate your home with human body parts?
That is so fucking wild. An apartment.
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Oh, that makes it so much worse.Disgusting.
I'm just. Bringing up a body part every
time he goes out for groceries. Back to the gym.
I mean 40. It is 40.
It is a lot. I don't listen.
I wonder like what the the time frame was for him gathering.
I feel like it had to have been over a period of time because
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they just, the FBI said that they had suspected him in a ring
as being a part of a ring of, ofpeople who basically stole grave
robbers. Yeah.
Grave robbers, yeah. And then sold the parts.
Man. Rather crazy.
It's wild. Could you?
I mean, that's my wait. Is that my grandma?
Is that I know? That hip bone?
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Grandma's hip. I know my grandmother.
Sip anyway. Oh.
Man, we could do a whole that isUncle, that is Uncle Sam spine.
That motherfucker had a crooked ass spine.
I know it. Man had scoliosis like a
motherfucker. That's right.
We could totally do a whole episode on on grave robbing.
(53:05):
It has such an interesting history and huge history.
Yeah, I mean, for all sorts of reasons too.
Yeah. Just trying to make ends meet,
selling us stealing jewelry or teeth or stealing, doing grave
robbing of the newly buried for medical advancement and studies.
(53:26):
Harvard was part of that. Looking at you, Harvard.
That might be something we do inthe future.
Jake, jot that down. Make a note.
Make a note. Yes, I love it.
All right, you guys. Are you ready for a game?
You. Fucking know we.
Are a game to game game? Let's play a game.
We'll play a game with me. Not anymore.
(53:47):
Come on, please. Play a game with me the.
Bone game. The bone Game.
We are back, we all back. We're going to play a game.
No, I'm not going to do it. Never mind.
All right? We're playing a new game.
We are playing a, We're playing a game called Yes, yes, yes,
(54:13):
yes. The game is not called.
Yes, the game is. Called truth.
This is a shit joke. Fuck.
We are playing a game called Truth or drink.
We're not drinking, it's just we're going to have fun.
Anyways, I want to start this off because Samara and I both
agree. Men, boys, dudes, guys, bra
bras, Bros absolutely fucking wrote these fucking cards. 1000
(54:38):
fucking percent. Yes, but this is just funny and
it's just for all of you guys cuz Mary and I aren't going to
answer answer this question. We just think it's really
hilarious. Who is the cheapest tipper and
why are they such a piece of shit?
This is fucking hilarious. So you guys, who's the cheapest
tipper you know and why are theysuch a piece of shit?
(54:59):
Let us know. Yes, we can publicly shame them
together. Exactly.
OK, moving on into the real game.
Yes. Would you like to go first?
Sure, let's do it. OK, so straight up, have you
ever sent a sext while pooping? A sext?
Yeah, while pooping. While pooping on the shitter, if
(55:20):
you will. I.
Feel like maybe the answer is yes.
Mine's a hard yes. But I don't know for sure.
I know for sure. Not a single ounce of doubt in
my mind. I know.
I absolutely have. I don't.
I can't recall that I ever have,no.
(55:43):
Like it seems like it would be possible, but not that I
recollect, no. You're a better woman than I am.
OK. All right.
You're turning OK, who's used bathwater?
Or as some like to call it, bodybroth.
Oh, don't like that? Do you think is the most
drinkable? Just in general, whose body
(56:04):
broth would you drink? The way your face is contorted.
Oh. My God, it's girl.
I can't. It's going to be nobody's body
broth. Kay, I'm drinking nobody's body
broth, but if I had to it's. Getting worse the more you
repeat it. I know who's the cleanest person
(56:26):
I know. How clean is Piper?
Is she pretty clean? Yeah.
Sydney's like the cleanest person I know, like she showers
all the. Time.
I mean Gavin is too, but that man has a lot of like chest
hair. So no, he was going to be my
answer, but no. No, I can't.
Oh God, this is really difficult.
(56:50):
This is difficult for me. I can't think of anybody.
I mean, I guess probably one of my girls.
If I really had to choose eitherone, I'd probably be OK with.
But does it say how much? Nope, Just just.
You know who would you so you can drink 8 ounces of blood but
not body broth, but not even like a a sip a small drink of
(57:12):
body broth that fucking. I can't do I could do that.
Oh, if it was like, well, you don't ever take baths.
Rarely, but I do. I usually do like milk baths
like once a month. I'm going to say you're one of
the girls. Yeah, me or one of the girls.
Yeah, OK. Couldn't be a man, I know that.
No, no. Hell no.
(57:34):
All right, well, how? We're not going to dig deeper
into that because that was disturbing.
Yeah. Moving on.
Yeah, we stayed there too long. Really.
Straight up. Have you ever stopped being
sexually attracted to someone because of something they said?
Yes, yes, absolutely. I, I call that getting the ick.
(57:55):
Yep. You know something they say or
something they do and you're like, Nope, everything just got
real fucking dry. Yeah, if it's for me, I know
there's a quite a few different things that people can say. 1 is
saying that a woman's place is at home or in the kitchen.
(58:17):
I'm like, Oh yeah. Be any kind of a misogynist.
Yeah, not happening. No.
Or like racism. I was just gonna say phobia or
just some ignorant shit like hating on someone with
disabilities or something. Yeah.
And I'm just like gross hate speech and I'm just like, my
vagina is repulsed by you. Yeah, literally disgusting.
(58:38):
Yeah, agreed, Agreed. I think that's about it really.
That would just really fucking like immediately just kind of if
you insult me and say that I'm literally an idiot or something
like you really mean if you talkdown to me like or degrade me in
in a way like that. Yeah, no, that's that's going to
be a hard fucking goodbye. So that too hate speech on me,
(59:00):
yeah. Hate speech on others or hate
speech on me? You're out of here.
You're out of here. All right?
What is the weirdest shit that you've seen a naked person do in
a locker room or a changing room?
Oh glad you specified OK. I was like I've if I was on the
Internet in the early aughts, I saw a lot of shit, but in a
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locker room or a. Or a changing room in a.
Changing room? Oh, I don't know, girls aren't
really that weird in changing rooms.
Right, this is like a dude question.
That's 100% a dude question. I realized that I was attracted
to chicks in a in a changing room, but that's.
Weird. No, I haven't seen anything
weird in the locker room or changing room.
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Girls are weird. This is a dude thing.
Guys wrote these questions, I'm telling you.
Definitely, man. Yeah.
All right. Have you ever menstruated on
something and left it for someone else to clean up?
Boy, do I have a story for you. Yeah, you.
Have. I have.
Yeah, So my first husband, before we were married, we went
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to see his family and we had stayed at their house.
And I did not realize that I hadstarted my period.
Well, I woke up the next morning.
He woke up early, but I woke up the next morning a little bit
after him and I was alone in theroom.
I was like, fuck, dude. I like kind of felt, you know,
you know what it feels like It was like, OK, I think I might
(01:00:25):
have started. What the heck?
And I see that and. I get out of bed, pull the
covers back. I see there's blood on it.
I just met these people. I'm like, I don't even know what
to say to them. Like I went through my head.
I'm like, OK, I could go up to them and say sorry, I bled on
your bedding. Can I treat it?
Show me where this stuff is so Icould take care of it.
Or I just pretend like I didn't even know what happened.
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Just leave it for them. It's such an awkward.
What I did position to because any if I if I knew them like how
I know them now, it would be completely different.
I would absolutely be like, Hey,I you know, I bled.
I need to fucking treat these sheets or whatever and it
wouldn't even be a thing. Not embarrassing nothing.
I met them the night before, okay.
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And also and also to top it off,like I grew up poor, we were
broke, they were wealthy. So that also made it really
fucking weird and odd for me. Yeah.
So it was just yeah, yeah. That's making me uncomfortable
just thinking of myself being inthat same.
Position, they're really cool. They never said anything to me
(01:01:30):
about it, which I really appreciate and I think only an
asshole would say something to somebody about that.
Yeah, kudos and Many thanks to keeping that just a a private
matter. Yes, only time my story is when
I was working in Oklahoma at my very first job down there, I was
(01:01:51):
a server. We had these wooden tables with
picnic table seats. They were detached but like a
bench seat I guess just made outof wood.
It was a closing shift. I was working and I remember
going over to bust this table and I looked down and there is a
bloody moose knuckle on this bench.
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Also, you didn't menstruate on something.
No, you had to clean up some. I was the menstruation.
I was the person that was left to clean it up.
I was on the other end of the story.
Oh God. And I shit you not, it was the
most perfect print of a bloody vagina I've ever seen.
(01:02:34):
Full rounded diamond shape. Oh my God, did you take a
picture of it? No, I mean I might have at the
time. I definitely grabbed some other
coworkers to come look at it because I was like are you
fucking kidding me? Thinking about it now, I'm like
you. She may have not even known that
it happened on and. If it was like a perfect shape
of her vagina. I mean if.
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She's not wearing like panties. Well, it wasn't.
She was in a skirt, solid, but the IT wasn't like full filled
in. Yeah, but the whole shape was
there. That is like a that's like a lot
of that's, that's a pretty big space that you're describing.
And I feel like, how do you not know?
Yeah, I don't know. Right, like we, we all women,
(01:03:15):
we've all had our period. We all know.
Yeah, but I had to find some gloves to dawn and how to clean
it up. Polished right, so you could
just wipe it up. It wasn't like saturating into
the. Wood.
No. Very easy cleanup.
Oh, it's very easy. Thank God.
Wow. That is, yeah, I've never had to
clean up. Nope, Nope.
Take that back. Take that back.
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One of my girls, I won't say if it was a stepdaughter or
daughter, bled when they very first started their period.
Kind of bled all over the toiletand shower and left it and was
like, did you cut yourself? What happened?
What's happening here? Like how, how did this get, How
did this get to how did this get?
(01:03:59):
How did this get, you know? But they are very new to their
their menstrual cycle, like very, very brand new.
That makes a lot of sense, yeah.That's that, you know, so if it
and I cleaned it up for them just because I'm such a nice mom
and it was a little bit more to find for them like I got there.
Yeah, that's not something you want to be.
It's easy to get traumatized over and, yeah, get a lot of
(01:04:22):
shame, Right. Yeah.
And it's like, that's brand new to them.
So I'm like, OK, well, I'm not. I don't need.
Women are already made to kind of feel like their periods are
dirty and gross and to be embarrassed by.
Which is you don't need it to start out.
I just don't want it to start there.
Yeah. So.
Yeah, proper response. Yes.
All right, moving on. Sorry for the men out there, you
know. OK, well, you guys all like to
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have sex with women. Guess what?
Well, this is. This is part of being with a.
Woman, that's true. Yeah.
Yeah, what? What my sister said.
We should move on now. Yes.
Have you ever thrown up while orright after giving head?
Yes, the rest of the question. My bad, thank.
You. If not, do you think you should?
(01:05:06):
If not, do you think you should go harder next time?
Men absolutely fucking wrote these questions.
Oh. God zero, you got to pump those
numbers. God, so your answer was yes, he
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was thrown up wild or right after giving?
Head Which was it? Both.
Choose one Yes. Oh, both of them, OK.
Yeah, back when I was drinking alot heavier and when I was
really deep in the in the sauce.Oh shit, that's crazy.
I can't even imagine. Not like a full blown like.
(01:05:49):
There's vomit all over their fucking.
But, you know, like you, you gaga little too hard.
Yeah. Like something came up.
Yeah. Oh, like, easily to clean up and
get rid of the evidence while you're giving head.
Yeah. Oh, OK.
Yeah. Where there's a will, there's a
way. OK.
Yep. All right.
And that's I'm all. That's all I'm going to double
divulge. Just use your own boxes.
(01:06:10):
Clean the vomit off your cock, yeah.
Maybe I'll use this sheet and we'll just kick it off the bed
and nobody will ever know, basically, And that might not
even be true because I might notremember exactly.
Now you're fucking getting that.You're following along.
There, I'm there. My answer is no.
I have never thrown up while giving head or right after
(01:06:30):
giving head and do. I try harder next.
Time Do I think that I should goharder next time?
New I don't. New I'm not trying to vomit on
somebody's fucking cock. I do not need a Deep Throat that
bad. Thank you.
This is not like a fucking I'm not out here trying to win a
trophy. Oh shit, I broke her.
(01:06:57):
Deep throating champ of the year.
Oh my God. Yeah, No.
How do you try to win it through?
It's just like, I was like, whatkind of fucking question is
that? Like I didn't go hard enough on
your fucking cock that I I should go hard.
Like so hard that I throw up. Like, are you kidding me?
It's rude. Is that what you want?
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I just had a drinking problem, that's all.
He. Was like, I just want to fuck
your throat hard enough that youthrow up.
Like, I'm sorry, OK, no. Then I'm going to do something
to make you throw up. Fucking tit for tat, baby.
How would that I don't stop? Let's not.
I'm going to shove my hand down your throat till you do.
Come here, bitch. Moving right along, Yes.
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What's the most expensive thing you've fished out of a toilet?
My phone. Yep, yeah, Yep.
Oh yeah. Poster pre bathroom usage.
It was oh God, once it was post.I had literally like I stood, it
was in my back pocket. I stood up to pull my pants up.
It fell out of my back pocket into my piss.
(01:08:05):
I've been that fucking sucked. Yeah.
So to this day I take my phone out of my back pocket before I
fucking sit down. Yep.
I like, Nope, once was enough for me.
Thank you. I know our mom lost a phone that
way. Really.
Yeah, I don't think she had actually used the bathroom, but
it was like a brand new iPhone that she had just got and
(01:08:25):
something happened and it fell into the toilet.
She said she plucked it right out right away, but they must
have been before the phones. Phones were.
Oh, yeah, it was. It was back in back when it was
deadly to your cell phone. Yeah, it was Cle elum times.
So the iPhones were not nearly as durable.
Yeah. Yeah.
(01:08:45):
I was like, that's heartbreaking.
That's a lot of money. Yeah, I've never thrust my hand
so quickly into a toilet bowl full of piss, but, you know,
thank God it was pissed. Yeah, exactly.
Oh, could you imagine if it justdropped and like fucking hit
like a log of shit? I guess I'm going in debt for a
new phone. Or if you had the shit.
(01:09:08):
You had the period shits. You're on your period and your
shit. The whole fucking nasty
concoction. Think we don't have?
Sponsors because we'd get demonetized so fast.
What the fuck? We are not sponsoring these
fucking crazy ass bitches. OK last one for y'all.
If your cum was venomous, who would you fuck to death?
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Remember, this involves having to fuck them.
Wow, yes talk about some fuckinglike Predator.
I don't know like that was some like crazy like crazy shit.
I'm thinking of like a couple different movies I've watched
where like an alien was like inside of a human body, like
posing as like a human having sex with a dude.
(01:09:53):
And then she like she's riding him and like her tail kind of
comes out of the back like a fucking scorpion.
And, and he's like, you know, having a good old time fucking
playing with her tits while she's riding him.
And then her tail just fucking comes over her shoulder and
stabs him in the heart. That sounds awesome.
But anyways, I don't know what movie that was from, but I've
seen it in my head. But anyway.
(01:10:13):
So yeah, if you're come as venomous, who would you fuck to
death? I don't know if there's anybody.
I don't dislike anyone enough tokill them.
Yeah, well, and I feel like it takes a special kind of hate to
be willing to fuck them to death, you know what I mean?
Like, yeah, I mean, you have to actually have sex with them in
order to kill them this way, which is, like its own special
(01:10:34):
kind of like, twisted fuck you, you know?
Yeah. Because then that part of them
is. Yeah, but it's also just like
such an absolute mind fuck, right?
Like, you know, you're about to kill this mother fucker, but
they think that, you know, you're like, I'm so sorry.
You were right. I was wrong.
(01:10:55):
Can you ever forgive me? I complain.
I mean, there's like, that's right.
All the bitches come back to me.I'm.
Wrong mother fucker. Pretty mantis.
Exactly. I don't know that I hate anybody
bad enough to fuck them to death.
I would say it wouldn't be anyone that I knew personally at
any point in my life, but thinking like some terrible
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people that are out there in theworld, someone like that, some
actually terrible person. Well, I know you hate Elon Musk.
Oh oh oh just got nauseous. Yeah, see, that's a hard one.
It's a hard one because. Dude, I got like 14 kids.
(01:11:36):
I mean, when you put it like that, I'm like.
Right. I know, but.
But I have to have sex with them, you know?
That's hard. There's nobody.
I guess you know if I could peg them because in this scenario I
have a Dick. They said semen.
Women don't have no they. Said come, come.
(01:11:57):
Damn, yeah, you can't peg them. Fuck yeah, you can just sit on
their face. Like most direct path to death
anyways. Honestly, suffocate them.
I guess they're gonna live because I don't know.
I would have to be so fucking inebriated I wouldn't want to
remember that. No, that's just, that's hard.
That's a tough one. Like right away you're like, Oh
(01:12:19):
yeah, these people. And then you're like, well,
wait, actually I have to have sex with them.
No, really. Pausing yeah, to think about it.
That's that's icky. Yeah, that's, yeah.
That'd be a tough one. And there's nobody that I know
that I hate that much that I would have sex with them in
order to kill them. Yeah, Nope.
Oh, I don't like that card. That was a bad card.
(01:12:41):
Yeah, well that. Made me feel bad.
That made you that? Made me feel bad.
OK. I want to go home.
Wow. Well, you guys, there you have
it. I hope you had a fucking great
week. I hope you have a great week.
Welcome to June yes my youngest is graduating tomorrow from high
school so that is really exciting yes it's it's wild that
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time really do be flying by fastit's so.
Crazy, she was just so tiny yesterday.
I know it's crazy. Anyways, I'm sure all of you got
like massive graduations of cousins or nieces, nephews,
children, I don't know. There's a lot of fucking people
graduating. So congratulations to the class
(01:13:28):
of 2025 man. Yes, you did it.
Fucking good for you. Good for you.
You stuck it out 12 years and you fucking made that shit
happen. There are a lot of people who
didn't do that, myself included.I got a GED.
I forget about that. Yeah, I.
Graduated, but I I got a GED. I didn't go to college.
Well, see, but don't take that as to mean it.
(01:13:49):
You know that doesn't mean shit.High school diplomas.
They they mean something. What diplomas?
High school. Shut up.
Fucking cut whatever we're posting all your fucked up shit
that you couldn't say. Whatever.
All right. Hope you all learned something
today. Maybe you got traumatized with
some shit at the tail end of theepisode, You know, walking to
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the club. Those were some disturbing
pictures, men. Absolutely where I stand by
that. Men wrote those questions, man.
Yes, women probably helped with a handful.
They're like, we need just a fewmore guys.
We'll hear. Girls, you want to come up with
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Hey everybody, how are you? Hello everybody, welcome to our
sauce box, yes? Welcome me to our sauce box.
I was just taking a picture of us before we started recording
and it completely threw off you saying hi to everybody.
So it did. I was like, what is she doing?
Is she recording me right now? OK, Because I was dancing a
(00:45):
little weird, so I wasn't sure. How have you been?
Oh, you know, another day in life surviving the allergies.
Fucking barely. Been miserable.
I did think that snap you sent me was really funny.
She sent me a snap of her wearing a cloth mask.
The only way she could survive being outside right now.
(01:06):
But it doesn't save my eyes, so you know, I'm just trying to get
by that. Sucks, I'm sorry.
Oh my goodness. I went out with some friends and
listened to them karaoke. They tried to get me to karaoke,
but I don't karaoke so. But I did watch them and most of
(01:26):
them are actually pretty good. One guy that was there, though,
who was like, you guys, you got to do Paramore, ain't it fun?
Somebody's got to do that. Like everybody's going to live
us on. Yeah.
Living in the real world. Yep, exactly.
So you're welcome for that. So you do karaoke?
(01:47):
Yep, in the podcast room with mysister or at Thanksgiving.
I think that's happened like twice.
Still counts. OK, you're right.
You're right. Anyway, so he wanted everybody
to do this song and nobody woulddo it.
So finally he's like, I'm going to do it.
This motherfucker gets up there.He doesn't even know the words
of the song. Granted, the words are on the
fucking screen, but he doesn't even know how to sing those
(02:08):
words and so he doesn't. Even know how to read.
That's what I thought you were going to say.
No, motherfucker was illiterate.He.
Doesn't he doesn't even know like the tune of the song.
And so he's like stumbling missing, like he's like singing
too slow and then he's going toofast.
He's kind of like all over the place.
And then he gets to the chorus and he knows the chorus.
(02:29):
So he like kills that, but then it goes back to another verse
and he was like, you guys help me out, help me out.
So everybody's like trying to sing this fucking Paramore song,
but turns out like maybe three people in the bar fucking know
how to like, know the tune to bethey like, sing it.
Oh, it was damn shame. It was a fucking disaster.
But you know, everybody was laughing their ass off.
And then at the end he goes, Oh my gosh, you guys, thank you so
(02:52):
much. This was so fun.
You guys are so cool. I was like bro.
This isn't a concert it. Was for him, apparently.
You guys were so fun. Like I was just like, what is he
good for having me? I was like, what?
It was by far and away the worstkaraoke.
Or like it was, it was so bad. I love that for him.
(03:15):
Yeah, he owned it. He he didn't fucking care.
And I have to say I was like very impressed by his lack of
give a fuck. I wish I could do that 'cause
then maybe I would do karaoke inpublic.
That is what I'm saying. I'm like, fuck, if I could like
give zero fucks like that for karaoke, then that'd be great.
But I'm like, Oh my gosh. Although I did tell my friend
that I would karaoke with her toShania Twain.
(03:37):
Hell yeah. Yeah.
So I'm like, OK everyone. Fucking loves Shania, are you?
Kidding me? Everybody loves Shania.
I would be. Fun men fucking will kick down
doors. When she says let's go girls,
they're like. Fuck yeah.
Yeah, girls, let's go. Anything for you, Shania.
Even fucking Gavin sings along to Shania.
(03:59):
I mean, come on. I know everybody loves Shania.
God, yeah, We all have massive girl crushes on Shania.
Everyone, everyone, everyone's got a crush on Shania.
Yeah, how could you not? She's so sexy, At least she was
in the 90s. Yeah, I mean, she still looks
good. Now she's.
Got a little bit too much plastic surgery for my taste,
but yeah. I haven't paid that much
attention. I only know because I saw her
(04:20):
recently on something and I was like, well, that's Shania was
like, what happened to her face?Yeah, I know.
I was like, your face was perfect.
What did you, what did you do toit?
Just. Age gracefully.
It's OK to age. Yeah, I mean, it's OK.
Yeah, it's crazy. Anyways, so.
So because I didn't karaoke withher at the bar, I I was given
her a ride home. So I was like, I got something
(04:42):
for you. She's like what?
And I put it on Shania Twain radio and we just melted out
three different Shania Twain, Shania Twain songs like at the
top of our lungs on the way home.
It was. It was spectacular.
I love that for you guys. It was really fun.
That sounds fabulous. It was, it was really good and I
was like, well, shit, I don't know.
And plus it was like such a goodvibe of people that I went with.
(05:04):
I only knew like 3 of the peoplein this group of like 10, maybe
15, I don't know. There were a lot of people there
and the entourage, yeah, they were all like super, super
supportive of each other. Anybody that got up to karaoke,
we were all just like hooting and hollering and cheering.
Like it was like super good vibes.
Like nobody was, you know, it wasn't like where you see
(05:25):
karaoke sometimes people get up and like the people they came
with are cheering for for them and everybody else is doing
their own thing. No, everybody is cheering for
you and everybody is like applauding you that.
That might encourage me enough to maybe.
Try. Yeah, and they're all sets, all
sorts of different, like talents, you know, some people
that were terrible and somethingthat were amazing.
(05:46):
One guy this like middle-aged fat white dude with crazy facial
hair. Don't know what that means, but
alright it. Was like the weirdest scraggly
goatee beard thing. Oh.
Yes, but no mustache and nothingcoming up to connect the rest of
the facial hair to hit the his head of hair.
It was just a very interesting, it was choice.
(06:08):
It was odd, but anyways, so he surprised everybody And sing a
Whitney Houston song. What?
Yeah, he sang a Whitney Houston song.
I can't remember what the song was, but it was one that was
that she wrote for. What was it the movie she did
with Harrison Ford? No idea.
(06:28):
Bodyguard so anyways, but he. Did he fucking kill it?
He did. Everybody likes Whitney Houston
also. So the whole bar was singing
along, but he he like, she goes high and he went high.
We're like fucking stop. Oh my God.
Like, hell yeah, man. It was crazy.
(06:49):
I think because we all realized that he was doing Whitney
Houston and we're like, wait, you're doing Whitney like you
should. Yeah, but that's risky.
It was fun. It was really fun that.
Sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah, I was like, fuck, OK, I
kind of want to do this again, actually.
And I fucking hate karaoke. I didn't know that about you.
Yeah, I hate karaoke. Karaoke.
If I go to bars and like karaokebegins, usually I finish my
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drink and I leave. I don't even like to be around.
Like, it's usually just too fucking painful for me to even
sit there and listen. I hate it so much.
But I actually had a really fucking good time.
Yeah, it was. That's good.
Yeah, I guess. The the crowd really helps.
Yeah, and the group of people I was, it was just, God, the vibes
were so fucking great. I loved it.
And the staff at this bar were amazing.
(07:34):
Like, just really. Yeah, it was, it was fucking.
It was great. That's awesome.
And I actually like talk 'cause we talked about this briefly
where you had said you had Tinder for a minute and then you
got rid of it and then you met Gavin.
Yeah. And then for my friend MO, she
was kind of doing the same thing.
And she got rid of her online dating and then met this chick
(07:55):
who things are going smashingly and I fucking hope it stays that
way for them. Oh, I hope so too.
Yeah, love it and. Well, in that spirit, happy
Pride Month, everybody. Yeah, so I had two different men
approach me at the bar and give me their numbers, which was very
sweet. Neither of them have a chance in
(08:16):
hell, but but I was like, OK, OK, you know, there's this is
something but then, right. But then there was another guy
that was with our group and he'she's an attractive dude.
He's tall, like 6 three. He was like a former minor
League Baseball player. Cool dude, very outgoing.
He was the one who absolutely murdered Paramore Song.
(08:40):
But he's got like a really greatpersonality.
He's super funny and outgoing. My only thing, and he was like
super into me. But my only thing is that he's a
ginger and I. Don't like her own kind?
Generally don't like gingers. Oh my God.
But you know what? I, we were all out in the
fucking parking lot talking and somebody goes, well, you know,
(09:02):
like gingers are, are heart black, right?
And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, like that.
I, I heard that or whatever. And then somebody was like,
yeah, they're red velvet. And we were like, wait, what?
And they're like, yeah, they're red velvet.
I was like Oh my God, I fucking love that so much.
Not heard that I heard the wholewhole black thing, but red
velvet. I know I was like, I, I'm, I
(09:23):
love that. Jake, don't let that go to your
head, my guy. Fuck yeah, so that is.
Cool as shit, I like that a lot.Well, then this dude, he's like
red velvet. He's like, that's cool.
He's like, wait, I thought we were just chocolate dipped
carrots. And then everyone's like, what
the? Fuck, sounds horrible.
Yes, like that sounds disgusting.
(09:44):
What are you talking about? To God.
So gosh, yeah, it was the night was full of all sorts of gold
Nuggets. It was just, it was beautiful.
Tipped carries. That could be a fun merch idea.
Oh my gosh. Piper, write that down.
(10:08):
Oh my gosh. Actually, Jake, Jason, one of
y'all scribble that down somewhere.
Yeah, so we don't forget kind ofhave our own assistance with
them now. We do.
We do. Yes.
They they're fucking phenomenal and amazing.
And they've been helping us withresearch and all that good
stuff. And also kind of our biggest
cheerleaders. So, yeah, we love you guys so
very much, Jason. You know I love you, love you,
(10:28):
love you so, so much. Thank you.
That was whole, whole body. It is whole body love.
Don't let that go to your head though either, actually.
Nah, you guys are the bee's knees.
You guys are chocolate dipped carrots and all.
Okay, well, Jason isn't a fucking ginger, so he's not any
of that. That's fine.
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Oh my gosh. Anyway, so that's, that's kind
of my, my like catching you all up.
Oh, that's cool. I have a pretty peaceful my
little life. Love it.
Yeah, I love that for you. Me too.
Me too. That's good.
Well, I think we just, you want to just jump right in because we
kind of have a lot of shit to cover this week, you guys.
And I think you're going to be really excited about the topic
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that we have chosen. You're going to be learning some
shit today, hey? Hey, you're going to learn
today. Yeah, we're going to learn you.
So thanks to the Skelecaster, which Samara introduced all of
us to last week. Insert cool metal guitar riff.
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Consider it done. We decided to go on a deep dive.
So for those of you that didn't listen to last week's episode,
the Skelecaster is a guitar, an electric guitar made from the
bones of this guy, Uncle yes, ofUncle Phillip.
And it is his rib cage, his spinal cord, his pelvis.
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Like there's like a whole, wholelot happened in there.
Go to our Instagram if you want to see pictures of it 'cause it
looks tight. It's crazy.
Metal as fuck. Metal as fuck.
For real. Yes.
Yeah. Apparently Uncle Phillip was
like a major metal head. So yeah, yeah.
Anyways, because of this, we gotto thinking what else has been
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made from human body parts? And so it was just we decided to
do a little deep dive on that and that's what we're going to
be talking about today. We are going to be talking about
what else has been made from human body parts and just a
little background. So human and animal remains,
bone schools, they have long been associated with musical
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instruments. For those of you that didn't
know that either as a decoration, as a part of these
these instruments or as the key component.
Also, schools of warriors slain in battle were once hung on
Asante royal drums. In Iguana and the Ivory Coast,
human and animal thigh bones have been used to make trumpets
called kongling, which smear is going to go into those for us,
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as well as skuldrums called damaru.
And she's also going to tell us about those.
How. Yeah, those were used actually
in Tibet in connection with meditation traditions, which
focused on the impermanence of life and material existence.
They were also thought to be powerful tools for protection
against evil. So she is going to give us the
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rundown of different musical instruments made from human body
parts. And then when she's done with
that, I am going to let you guysin on some things that are just
made from human body parts. Not instruments, but just
Samara. Take it away, did you?
Just finger gut anything. No, no it wasn't.
It was like the put up bumps. Yes, that OK.
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OK, anyways, well, all righty then.
Starting off this installment ofour bodies are made of musical
instruments waiting to be playedin the afterlife.
First up, we have the Kongling. It is originally in from India.
Kong being leg, Ling being flute.
The Kongling is part of an ensemble of sacred instruments
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that emerged from the tantric Crucible of India some 1500
years ago. They thought it would.
Have been a lot older than that,but I guess 1500 years is
actually cut up a long time. Never mind.
Yeah, I'm still blown away that 20/20 was 5 years ago.
So, right, OK, OK, continue carrying on.
They're used for both their profound symbolic meaning and as
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objects possessing inherent spiritual power.
These instruments began arrivingin Tibet around 880 and the Kong
Ling appeared in the Himalayan region sometime over the next
century. After the development of the
chode, which is a ritual and meditative practice of cutting
like cutting one's body. Reading it, it made me think it
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was loosely resembles like bloodletting but of a like a
spiritual ritual practice. So after the development of of
chode, we see the emergence of the thigh bone as an important
and widespread ritual instrumentwhich then spread into the
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Tibetan regions. So the chode.
I'm sorry, but you should say chode.
I just. I know.
Yep. OK, you all get your, are you?
Guys all there too, OK. You keep saying it and I'm like.
It's not spelled the same. It's CHOD, if that.
How do we usually? Spell it.
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I spelled it CHOAD or with an E at the end.
Oh, OK. Usually the the OA, so I would
spell chode like the chode that we're all giggling about.
Yeah, it was like CHODE for me. So a chode for me, a chode for
me, bro, bro. OK.
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Anyways, we're professionals in this bitch.
That's fucking right. So the chode kongling is the
length of sorry, shit. All right.
So the chode congling is the length of a femoral bone from
the knee joint up to about halfway up the thigh.
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So the size of the trumpet, which it's it's referred to as a
trumpet, varies according to thestature of the person that came
from, obviously. Yeah, tracks.
So it's, they're usually around 12 inches in overall length with
a about a three inch diameter along the shaft.
A hollow path is created by removing the bone marrow and
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holes are made into the the two sides of the knee, like where
you're where it looks like there's knuckles at the top.
So in there these are also hollowed out to create 2 bells,
creating a kind of double headedtrumpet.
The blowing end is usually scalloped or bevelled inward
slightly to form a a conical mouthpiece.
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So like a a cone shaped mouthpiece, this makes an
effective horn capable of surprisingly loud and piercing
sounds. Loud and piercing OK.
Do a YouTube OK yeah, YouTube it.
In order to keep the inside dry and free of microorganisms,
beeswax is poured through the instrument and then a hot metal
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rod is used to clear the centralpath.
This creates A moisture barrier as well as making the sound more
resonant and clear. So it's not as shrill.
Because I found a video where someone was playing it before
they did the beeswax thing and then after they had done the
beeswax with the hot iron central path.
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This creates A moisture barrier.So this creates A moisture
barrier as well as making the sound more resonant.
Clear, fresh bones were readily available in old Tibet, where,
as it still occurs today, a corpse is dismembered and fed to
the vultures during traditional sky burials.
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Now, as as then, such rights areoften presided over by chopez.
I'm hoping I'm saying that right.
They're just like spiritual leaders using rituals that
transformed the final offering of the body into a sacred act.
Bro they dismember the body and then feed it to the vultures.
Circle the life, I can't get over it.
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Circle the. Life.
It's a circle of life. Yep, nailed it.
We could afford getting sued by Disney.
No, next thing you know, we're going to be homeless on the.
Street. Not even a chord.
Bard cord? What cardboard box that was
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Really. You struggled with that?
You know what? Moving on, some traditions even
mentioned Konglings being made of tiger bone and others vulture
bone as being highly auspicious.Or if you don't have a
thesaurus, favorable. Did I?
Did you understand the word I just said?
Yep, OK, favorable. But elsewhere this is frowned
upon. An all metal, copper or brass
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form of the trumpet is also simply called a congling.
Are used in a variety of tantricrituals.
Their sound, however, is higher pitched and far more intense and
piercing. But this kind of copper trumpet
is never used in chode. I do have to say, even though
we're talking about sacred rituals, the brass callings that
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they're talking about, when you see, we'll attach a picture.
It looks like a a nut sack. It does.
There's just no getting around it.
That's look at this and tell me I'm wrong.
Yeah, no, that looks like a fucking nut sack.
It looks like a nut sack that's been encased.
It really does. Yep.
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It's a nut sack gonna a really beautiful nut sack.
Bedazzled with jewels, even. Next up, we have an ancient
Texan tribe crafted upper arm bone turned into an instrument.
This one has been determined that it's from the late
prehistoric South Texas area around 1300 to 1528 AD.
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While such artifacts haven't been found in the area before,
which is amazing, they even found these similar instruments
are well documented from centralMexico's Highlands.
What do they call those humorousflutes?
It's not a flute. Oh, what is it?
I haven't gotten to it yet. Oh.
Well, you're just, it's funny because they're like, you know,
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the one trumpets are made of thefemoral bone.
But then this one is like the upper arm bone.
It's like, OK, but it's a humorous bone.
Just FYI for people. It's not very humorous.
I'm. Just saying forget to fucking
say what they are, let's call them, but they are not where
they're located. It's not a a humorous topic, but
you know this is a musical rasp crafted from a human upper arm
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bone bearing humorous bone. Well aren't don't we have
different bones? Or is it it's just that our
forearm that has the 2? Yeah, we have ulmer and radius
or radial, ulmer and radial in our forearms and then in our
upper arm is the humorous bone. OK, so it's a musical rasp
crafted from a humoral bone. Thank you.
You're welcome. Bearing 29 precisely etched
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notches like. This is that what I said
precisely Take 20. This is going.
To be a shit show to edit. Fuck taking it from the top,
it's a musical rasp created froma humeral bone, right?
Yeah, OK. Bearing 29 precisely etched
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notches likely intended to produce sound when scraped with
another object. So like the oh, oh, can I like
those like toads or frogs, like made out of wood.
Exactly. Sometimes.
Yeah. OK, that's exactly right.
OK on the reverse side in zigzagging.
Fuck me. Zigzagging geometric patterns
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serve as decorative. You're keeping this.
Me decorative elements adding a visual demonstration.
It says to mention what? The fuck is happening?
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God this is beautiful. I.
Couldn't read, I swear to God. Oh my God, take 3.
Oh, take a deep breath. As Dad will always say, take a
deep breath. Think about what you want to
say. Maybe if I take my glasses off,
maybe that's the problem. My glasses are keeping me from
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speaking clearly. Yes, that's probably what it
was. Yeah, on the reverse side,
zigzagging geometric patterns serve as decorative elements,
adding a visual dimension to theinstruments functional design.
OK boom, banging its way into position three we have the
double sided skuldrum. And from the pictures, because I
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didn't see anything that actually clarified if it was a
drum made out of a single skull or if it was, they look like 2
skulls. That's that's my guess.
Yeah, when I was looking at themI thought they look like it was
2 skulls. So this specific drum is also
from Tibet, likely 19th century.It's made out of human bone,
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leather and clappers attached with string.
Yeah. So these these are kind of like
those you would almost see them like at toy shops where it's
like a two sided drum with a little string and a a ball at
the end of it. And it's got like a long handle.
And you would spin them between your hands and it would just
like boom, boom, boom, go back and forth, back and forth.
And this is essentially what that is without the long stick.
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Yeah. So.
Exactly. Yeah, it is a double headed drum
fashion from tops of human schools joined at their apexes
so like the the crown of your head and has been part of the
standard ritual paraphernalia for practitioners of leader
forms of tantric Buddhism since the time of their rise in India.
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OK, the skuldrum falls under thebroader category of a double
sided hand drum or the Demaru thank you, which are most
commonly made of wood and whose heads may be round or in an
elongated shape that approximates that of a skull.
They may be adorned with ribbons, tassels, bells and
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other fancy things. Other fancy.
Things you know, whatever you feel like, basically make it
yours. Yeah, put some flair, pizzazz.
Give them the razzle dazzle. Just picturing a bunch of like,
like Tibetan monks and Buddha's just like, give us some Raza
dazzle. But you all that shit, oh, we're
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being so disrespectful. That's why it's always so hot in
this room. Oh, we just get close to hell.
Sorry. Actually, we don't get close to
hell. Hell comes close to us.
It's like, slowly creeping in. Yeah, Getting closer and closer.
One of these days it's going to swallow up.
Yeah. And then we're going to fucking,
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you know, one of these episodes will be streaming straight from
hell. So, yeah, so if you know of
someone down there. Let us know, we'll say hi for
you. Yeah.
Maybe we'll have them on the pod.
We are so fucked. Jesus.
Yeah, well, you know what? That motherfucker, he just ain't
trying to be found. So practitioners basically hold
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the drum. What Nikki was talking about
earlier, they hold the drum in their right hand with a leather
strap that goes around their wrist for securement.
You know, so you don't drop it. Fingers towards the sky and
rotate their wrists back and forth, causing the clappers to
strike the drum across the stretch.
Leather. Thank Beyoncé.
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See the ladies. Could you imagine this had like
a double sided skull drop? Well, that's that's how they
would hold it, so there. You go, there you go.
There's a nice visual for y'all.So Beyoncé and all her Single
Ladies holding dull side. It's called Trump.
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That would be scary as fuck boy.Y'all about to stay single as
fuck too? Yeah, where do you think we got
the skulls from? So the practitioner's left hand
is leftover for other ritualistic implements such as a
handbell or the the chode congling that I first spoke
about and then finally in our body is made of musical
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instruments instalment we have aCentral African liar, liar liar
liar liar liar liar, pants on fire made from human skin, skull
hair, intestines and antelope horns.
It's badass. You guys should check it out.
It does look cool as shit. I'm worried where the intestine
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part the strings. Oh, we just learned that
together, everybody. Wait till you guys see what this
fucking thing looks like it is. Dude, it's red as.
Fuck shit it is. It's so fucking cool that you
can actually, like, people have created duplicates of this, like
knockoffs that you can buy on Etsy for like 370 dollars.
Yeah, it and the Scallocaster ispretty metal, but comparatively
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this is metal as fuck. It really is.
It's yeah. Check it out.
So it was purchased from an unnamed dealer back in 1889, and
it was originally thought to have originated from South
America when it was cataloged in19 O Six.
There is no known tradition to which this instrument may be
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assigned, although some have suggested it might be a symbolic
or clandestine ritual use. Most likely it is a sensational
item made by a clever indigenousentrepreneur for a trade and
profit with Europeans. Basically no one fucking knows.
Someone was just feeling crafty one day.
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They're like, oh, these white traders, they're going to
fucking love the shit out of this.
Somebody was like. What the I got a rhino skull
around here somewhere digging through cupboards.
Wow. I don't know, man.
So it's being currently held at the Metropolitan Museum of Art
in New York. Anyway, there you fucking have
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it. Your body is a Wonderland made
of musical instruments, just like John Mayer said.
Wow. He said that that's a direct
quote. He said your body is a
Wonderland made of musical instruments.
Yep, I know the body is a Wonderland part.
I don't think you're telling the.
Truth. No, no, don't dig into it too,
too hard, not too deep. Surf's level.
OK. OK.
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Moving on. Moving on to the next topic,
that was not it. That was it.
We're. Keeping that.
Oh shit. OK, so I'm gonna talk to you
guys about a few things that arejust made from human body parts.
The first thing we're gonna talkabout is this dude named Mark
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Quinn, who was inspired by Rembrandt in all the self
portraits that he did. And he was like, you know what?
I'm also going to do a self-portrait.
However, my self portraits are going to be much more creative.
I'm concerned just because of what topic we have today.
You should be concerned. Great.
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OK, so Mark Quinn, he basically would create sculptures of his
head from his frozen blood. This whole episode's just metal
as fuck. I know.
So this dude, he would go into the doctor every six weeks and
have a pint of blood drawn, justlike if you were donating blood.
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And once he got about 9 pints ofblood, he would freeze it all
into, you know, I don't know, a block, some kind of shape or
whatever. And then he would sculpt his
head. And he has done this every five
years since 1991. What?
Yes. Yes, what the fuck?
Yes, yeah, it's crazy. So he said one of the things
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that he loves about these sculptures is that there's about
60 pints of his blood out there in the world and he is still
alive, a testament to the regenerative ability of the
human body. I mean, it is pretty amazing
when you think about it that way.
Yeah. So at the end of the year, he
uses that blood to make those frozen sculptures of his.
What sculptures? Frozen, if it's frozen.
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All right. Calm down, Missy Elliott.
Oh my God. So he refers to this series as
Self, which I thought was funny because our aunt actually has a
series called Self. It's an artist thing.
You wouldn't get it. Right, yeah, it must be, yes.
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So anyway, so it's called Self, Quinn said in an interview with
Huffington Post. In a funny way, I think Self the
Frozen Head series is about the impossibility of immortality.
This is an artwork on life support.
If you unplug it, it turns into a pool of blood.
It can only exist in a culture where looking after art is a
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priority. It's unlikely to survive
revolutions, wars, and social upheaval.
I also think that the total selfportraitness of using my blood
and my body as an ironic factor as well, and that OR is an
ironic factor as well. And that even though the
sculpture is my form and made from the material of my body, to
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me it just emphasizes the difference between a truly
living person and the materials which make that person up.
The sort of literalist point that has been missed by the
cryptogenesis. Who frees themselves for
supposed future regeneration? I mean, that's an excellent
point, that it can only survive where in an area that art is
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important and a priority. Yeah.
No, that's kind of poetic. I know, right?
He took something really kind ofcreepy and kind of a cob.
Yeah, and turned it into that soand these are actually pretty
cool. I was hoping that you had some
pictures. What?
Why is it kind of it's like mostly red like you would think,
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but it has some grayish black spots that kind of look.
They kind of look like charcoal.Yeah, yeah, it's definitely got
different colors. I'm assuming it's just probably
like the age of the blood and like oxidant.
Oxidization or probably, yeah, Idon't know so interesting so.
Yeah, that is very interesting. Yeah.
So morbidly beautiful. Yeah, so you know, sculptures of
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this dudes head made from his own blood and there are several.
Out there in the world, do you have a price for those?
I didn't see anything that he was actually selling them.
I think some are in a couple museums and I think that's about
it. But I'll have links.
You guys can go dig in on that more if you've got more
questions. Yeah, I don't know how just a
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regular Joe Schmo could fucking buy something like that.
Like you just keep it in your freezer at home.
That does feel like a strictly museum, kind of.
Like, it's a very elaborate setup to be able to have this on
display. Yeah, yeah.
So you got to be fucking wealthyas fuck.
Amen, brother. Yeah.
OK, next, next we have a memoir bound in the thief's own skin.
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You heard that right. So the Boston Athenaeum is home
to about 150,000 rare books. And in a locked room, tucked
into a custom made box, there isa particularly curious book.
It's about the size of a regularpaperback, but it is the memoir
of a career criminal by the nameof James Allen.
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His alias was George Walton. The light grey cover bears a
Latin phrase which I'm not goingto even pretend to know how to
pronounce, but it is translated into This book was bound in
Walton's skin. Oh, yes, that feels like
something you shouldn't say in Latin.
Yeah, right. It's yeah.
Now I will say, when you look atthe cover of this book, it
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doesn't look ominous. It just looks leather bound like
it doesn't. It's not creepy looking in any
kind of way necessarily. So it was well.
Done it was well done so Ellen. He was born in Lancaster, MA in
18 O 9 to a struggling family. He fell into a life at crime at
the age of 15 after a chance meeting with a master thief, and
then he went and spent most of his life in and out of different
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jails. While incarcerated he would read
books, learn trades, and get on well with everybody, but as soon
as he got out, he'd returned directly to burglaring and Hwy.
robbing and such. Eventually, he died of
tuberculosis in a state prison in Charleston, Massachusetts.
But before he died, he decided that he wanted to tell the story
of his life to the prison's warden.
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He asked to him though. Well he he asked the warden to
write it down. Oh OK.
So obviously he was like no, I just want the warden to know
about me. No.
So if he got the warden to do this for him, like he was
clearly a very likable dude. He got people on side pretty
easily. Like I don't imagine that
especially back in the early 1800s, it would have been easy
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to get a warden to do anything for you.
Probably not. I imagine you know wardens back
then giving 0 fucks about their inmates.
Yeah. You know, so 100% so.
So he also made another request,which was a bit more unusual.
He asked that enough of his skinbe tanned to provide bindings
for 2 copies of this book. Yeah.
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So not only just one copy, but 2copies of this book.
All right. One copy of the book went to his
doctor, and the other was to go to John Fenno Junior, one of
Alan's victims, who he considered to be, quote, the
only man who had ever stood up to him.
Yeah, yeah. So I get to be gifted a book
made out of your skin. Mm.
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Hmm. A sufficient piece of skin was
removed from Ellen's back and taken to a local tannery, where
it was treated to look like Graydeer skin and then finally
delivered into the hands of a book binder.
Yeah, sorry. Anyway, so this might seem kind
of crazy to do, but it actually wasn't that that that uncommon.
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It was actually somewhat common to flag criminals and use their
hides for books. What?
Yes. I'm sorry, fucking excuse me.
Yes, we're but in Alan's case, he wanted he that was voluntary
for him, like it was an actual like personal request.
I'm sorry that was commonplace. It wasn't common.
It was, well, it was somewhat common.
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It wasn't unheard of. That's some wild.
Shit, yes. So it is the practice of binding
texts in human skin, and it dates back to the French
Revolution, when a number of copies of the French
Constitution were supposedly bound in the skin of those who
opposed the New Republic. That'll teach you.
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That'll fucking learn you. Yeah, those those books can
actually be seen in the museum in in a museum in Paris, Museum
Carnival A oh, wow. Yeah, by the 19th century, most
the most common use was by physicians, one in particular,
John Stockton, Doctor John Stockton, Hugh or Howe.
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So Doctor John Stockton Howe bound three medical volumes in
the skin of a patient with the first diagnosed case of
trichinosis, which is a parasitic disease caused by
eating undercooked meat with infected roundworm larvae.
Yeah, pork, in other words. And then, you know, just other.
Yeah. I could have.
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Yep, sorry. Anyways, others used cadavers
that they had obtained from public executions.
So this was like a thing doctorswould do?
That's just fucking weird. So your anatomy books were made
of anatomy? Bringing the lesson to you.
Oh my God. Books such as The Dance of Death
were being bound in human skin as late as the 1890s.
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Many of these books now belong to libraries, including John the
John Hay Library at Brown University, the Library of the
College of Physicians in Philadelphia, and potentially
the Cleveland Public Library andthe library of Harvard Law
School. I love that.
Potentially. OK, well, it's unclear exactly
how this skin book got into the anathenium.
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Athanani Ath. Oh, fuck me.
Well, it is Athenian OK anyways.Well, it's unclear exactly how
this book got into the Athenian library.
Anecdotal evidence suggests thatit was donated by John Fenno
Junior's daughter sometime in the 19th century.
There it still sits today, describing the man that is also
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made from. It is no longer on permanent
display though. Just FYI for all yours.
What do they do that they just store it somewhere in a
basement? Yeah, protected, obviously,
because books are sacred. Well, yeah, even if they're made
of human skin. Some would argue more so
because. OK, that indeed.
Looking at you, Vatican. Oh my gosh.
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OK, now this isn't necessarily something that is made of human
remains. It's more just kind of a creepy
little tidbit that involves human remains.
OK, so the FBI had gotten a warrant to search the home of
James, not who was suspected of stealing the human remains of
corpses and then selling them onthe black market.
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So. Like a grave robber.
Yeah, OK. So when the FBI asked not is
there anybody here, anybody elsehere in the home with you?
He said, only my dead friends. Oh.
Friends. Yes.
So the FBI searched his home andthey found that he had decorated
his home with the stolen human remains.
No, including several skulls around the back of his couch,
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one on his bed where he slept. Oh, don't like that?
One skull even had a scarf around it.
In total, they found 40 human skulls, spinal cords, femurs and
hip bones. 40. Right.
Isn't that crazy? Isn't that crazy?
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I know you're like. Cute.
Friends, huh? Yeah.
The neighbors were like, we had no idea.
He seems so normal. That's what that's that's they
always say that. They always say that.
Mm, hmm. Yep.
Next door neighbors. My eyes are buggin to top it
off. Which has nothing to do with
human body parts. He also had an insane arsenal of
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guns. I don't like that combination.
Yes, yeah, I don't like it. Yeah, neither did any of his
neighbors. That's fair.
You don't like it and you don't even know the guy or live
anywhere near him. The people that lived near him
and knew him and saw him every day were like what the what the
fuck what? Stop.
There's kids in this apartment complex.
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What is happening? Was he living in an apartment?
Yes. No.
Yes. Why does that make it worse?
I know. Oh, I don't like.
That yeah, pretty not fucking awesome.
See, apartment living is just the worst.
Just the word you. Never know who your fucking
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neighbors are. Fucking truly damn.
Okay, my last one for you guys is one that my friend Jason
turned me on to that he had likediscovered or heard of through
like a documentary or something they did watch a while back.
But this son is a little bit about the Tana Taraja tribe in
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Indonesia. OK, So I I will.
I will. So Indonesia's Tarajan Hill
tribe is known for its animalistic funeral rites that
involve caring for the dead at home, sometimes for years after
they've died until a Buffalo hasbeen sacrificed.
Yes. Now you're wondering what the
fuck does this mean? Yeah.
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So Tarajans practice a class based society, So funerals of
the Richard nobleman are more extravagant to mark their
status. Their graves are well decorated
with statues in their image known as Tao Taos, and the most
elite noblemen who have sacrificed more than 23
buffaloes have monoliths erectedin their honor.
I am, yeah. So kind of crazy, but still not
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so bad that's it gets worse. Just fucking sit tight.
Yep, holding on to my butt. The dead are never forgotten and
continue to be attended to through a unique ritual called
manana. After the yearly harvest, whole
families and villages help to exhume their dead, dry them out
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in the sun for a few days. The dead are then carefully and
affectionately cleaned, given new clothes, their hair is
combed and styled, and they are bestowed with jewelry, toys,
musical instruments and other such items.
Kind of lovely, actually. Some bodies are even erected
(43:59):
onto bamboo poles and families gather to take group photos with
them. Just like any joyful occasion,
like a birthday party or a. Wedding ceremony.
All right, I don't know about that.
You had me in the first first part.
I don't like the way you're laughing right now.
It's just oh, the pictures. The pictures are just fucking
(44:21):
crazy. Like they literally do this
every year until a family is able to sacrifice a Buffalo and
then the body, that family member is laid to rest
eternally. So every year they dig up their
family members, Children, grandparents, parents, siblings,
(44:41):
it doesn't matter. So like I'm assuming it starts
from when they die, so yeah. And it is so you look at, like,
these coffins and stuff, they are decorated like, it's their
own little, like, personal space.
You know, they're all, they looklike they're, you know, in their
favorite clothes They got, you know, just like, they're like
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living their best life in their coffin for that year while
they're all, like, buried. OK.
There's a picture of three men actually carrying one of the
bodies. They put sunglasses.
No, they didn't. On their face.
On the corpses face. Is it like skeletal remains?
They're like mummified. Okay, yeah, well that that is
(45:26):
partially why I asked I guess why or like if it starts the
year that they die? Because I was thinking, so
depending on how deep you bury somebody, it slows decay.
So you could be potentially. Yeah, like they they essentially
are mummifying them. OK, that really changes.
(45:46):
So it's not like skeletons that I mean, you know, their skin is
leather. And so they're not actively
still decomposing. No.
OK, yeah. So you can see, like, you know,
they've got like gloves they're putting on rings.
They're like dusting off and kind of cleaning their skin,
styling their hair, dressing them.
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Oh, wow. Posing them.
Yeah, I'm showing Samara some ofthese pictures.
It's pretty wild, you guys. It's it's definitely.
Oh, that one's a little makes mefeel a certain way.
Very good. It's got the very like Indiana
Jones kind of vibe to it for sure.
Yeah, no, I feel better about itbecause when you were first
saying that, I was thinking likethe bodies were still going to
(46:30):
be decomposing. They weren't mummified, but the
fact that they are very well preserved, actually.
Yeah, it definitely changes thatmake my outlook better.
Yeah. This is a child.
Oh, that's just sad. But yeah, So, you know, they're
just that one's not as well preserved.
But yeah, coffins are, like, padded inside it looks like.
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Yeah, Very nice. Nice garments.
Soaps maybe? Yeah, and here you have a
granddaughter posing with her grandmother.
Yeah, you can tell that there's a lot of really honoring the
dead. With this, it's very
interesting. Here's a family portrait where
you've got, you know, the two, the two parents and then all the
children. OK, so, so this is actually a
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gravesite. So it's a hillside boulder and
it serves as a gravesite for a single Tarajan family.
So this is where. So it's like a it's like a
version of a, a family burial plot.
Yeah. Like a crypt.
Yeah. Little bamboo ladders.
OK. And then there's the what they
call the Tao Taos, so which is like a really elaborate kind of
(47:38):
crypt barrel site. And then what they'll do is
above that they will actually carve out of wood different
their family members. So they carve out a wooden dress
them so so each figure is representative, representative
of who is buried in that crypt or in that burial.
Site OK, nice. Yeah, so, but that's only the
really wealthy family. Yeah.
(47:59):
I can't imagine that would be something that was cheap.
Yeah. So it's pretty, it's pretty
interesting. I mean, it takes a lot of work,
obviously, because they're carving these into to rock.
There's a lot of work, a lot of a lot of time and effort and
attention that goes into this. It's a bit creepy at first, I
think, but the more you kind of dig into it and really
understand the culture and the their reasoning and the absolute
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utter respect that they have fortheir their family members.
Yeah. It really changes the
perspective. It does.
It really changes the perspective, and it's actually
turns into something quite beautiful.
Yeah. Wow.
OK, that was OK. Yes.
No more. Stop it.
Yes. So, you know, it's just, it's
interesting like, you know, I mean, look at this like their
(48:44):
hair, teeth. Just don't have.
Some glasses like, yeah, it's just crazy.
So it's it's very interesting. I'll post several pictures of
the Taurasian family members. So it's actually a very
beautiful practice. Yeah, I thought so too.
It was very interesting. My last little bit for you guys
is if you are interested in owning jewelry, person jewelry
(49:09):
made from human teeth, there is an Etsy shop or two or two.
Yes, yes, there's actually 2 Etsy shops. 1 is out of Atlanta
and the other one is out of Richmond, VA.
The one in Richmond, VA is called Black Urn Jewelry and the
one in Atlanta, I can't actuallyremember what it's called so
(49:32):
don't worry about that one but you can find it anyways.
But bone or not bone, but teeth are actually legal to sell
because they're not considered bone.
So it's not illegal to sell teeth.
I'm not going to lie, I'm posting a picture of a tooth
ring but. We'll see about that.
Yes, but I what I love is like the the Atlanta one.
(49:53):
Their whole thing is like all ofour teeth are quote ethically
sourced UN quote. What do you mean?
Yeah, like they quoted their own.
Thing. Ethically, yeah, I was like,
well, that. Feels you get in bar fights and
taking people's teeth. Like what do you mean?
I feel weird that you had to putethically sourced in quotes that
(50:16):
feels not ethically sourced. Yeah.
We're just saying this to make you all feel better.
It's not working. I don't feel better, right?
Oh my gosh, so if you. Didn't say anything, I would
have just. Gone along with it, right.
I know I I thought that was justso I would have just assumed
(50:36):
they were ethically sore. Right.
The fact that you had to say it and then you put it in quotes is
just feels opposite of what you're saying is what it feels
like. Yeah, it does.
Yeah. It's like up for you guys.
I think we all learned a lot here.
We did. You can.
There's so much more, you guys. Oh, my gosh.
They're like the Victorian era was they had a massive movement
(50:57):
where they made about anything you could think of from human
hair. They would do like cross
stitching with human hair. There would be morning like, as
in grieving morning jewelry thathad human hair in it like and
beautifully like tied or braidedor patterns created with it
surrounded by rubies and emeralds.
(51:18):
They would do really elaborate and ornate small little
sculptures, all made from hair that look like branches of trees
and little flowers. Like really pretty.
Just a lot of yeah, hair was like a big, big thing, but hair
didn't seem very MC Cobb to me. So I was like, whatever, but you
know. There was a whole era there for
(51:39):
that. So yeah, I mean, just a
renewable resource. Pretty interesting.
Well, hope y'all learned some stuff today.
Oh. If any of you already knew all
of this. We need a, we need to talk.
What else you know? Yeah.
Also, do you decorate your home with human body parts?
That is so fucking wild. An apartment.
(52:02):
Oh, that makes it so much worse.Disgusting.
I'm just. Bringing up a body part every
time he goes out for groceries. Back to the gym.
I mean 40. It is 40.
It is a lot. I don't listen.
I wonder like what the the time frame was for him gathering.
I feel like it had to have been over a period of time because
(52:24):
they just, the FBI said that they had suspected him in a ring
as being a part of a ring of, ofpeople who basically stole grave
robbers. Yeah.
Grave robbers, yeah. And then sold the parts.
Man. Rather crazy.
It's wild. Could you?
I mean, that's my wait. Is that my grandma?
Is that I know? That hip bone?
(52:44):
Grandma's hip. I know my grandmother.
Sip anyway. Oh.
Man, we could do a whole that isUncle, that is Uncle Sam spine.
That motherfucker had a crooked ass spine.
I know it. Man had scoliosis like a
motherfucker. That's right.
We could totally do a whole episode on on grave robbing.
(53:05):
It has such an interesting history and huge history.
Yeah, I mean, for all sorts of reasons too.
Yeah. Just trying to make ends meet,
selling us stealing jewelry or teeth or stealing, doing grave
robbing of the newly buried for medical advancement and studies.
(53:26):
Harvard was part of that. Looking at you, Harvard.
That might be something we do inthe future.
Jake, jot that down. Make a note.
Make a note. Yes, I love it.
All right, you guys. Are you ready for a game?
You. Fucking know we.
Are a game to game game? Let's play a game.
We'll play a game with me. Not anymore.
(53:47):
Come on, please. Play a game with me the.
Bone game. The bone Game.
We are back, we all back. We're going to play a game.
No, I'm not going to do it. Never mind.
All right? We're playing a new game.
We are playing a, We're playing a game called Yes, yes, yes,
(54:13):
yes. The game is not called.
Yes, the game is. Called truth.
This is a shit joke. Fuck.
We are playing a game called Truth or drink.
We're not drinking, it's just we're going to have fun.
Anyways, I want to start this off because Samara and I both
agree. Men, boys, dudes, guys, bra
bras, Bros absolutely fucking wrote these fucking cards. 1000
(54:38):
fucking percent. Yes, but this is just funny and
it's just for all of you guys cuz Mary and I aren't going to
answer answer this question. We just think it's really
hilarious. Who is the cheapest tipper and
why are they such a piece of shit?
This is fucking hilarious. So you guys, who's the cheapest
tipper you know and why are theysuch a piece of shit?
(54:59):
Let us know. Yes, we can publicly shame them
together. Exactly.
OK, moving on into the real game.
Yes. Would you like to go first?
Sure, let's do it. OK, so straight up, have you
ever sent a sext while pooping? A sext?
Yeah, while pooping. While pooping on the shitter, if
(55:20):
you will. I.
Feel like maybe the answer is yes.
Mine's a hard yes. But I don't know for sure.
I know for sure. Not a single ounce of doubt in
my mind. I know.
I absolutely have. I don't.
I can't recall that I ever have,no.
(55:43):
Like it seems like it would be possible, but not that I
recollect, no. You're a better woman than I am.
OK. All right.
You're turning OK, who's used bathwater?
Or as some like to call it, bodybroth.
Oh, don't like that? Do you think is the most
drinkable? Just in general, whose body
(56:04):
broth would you drink? The way your face is contorted.
Oh. My God, it's girl.
I can't. It's going to be nobody's body
broth. Kay, I'm drinking nobody's body
broth, but if I had to it's. Getting worse the more you
repeat it. I know who's the cleanest person
(56:26):
I know. How clean is Piper?
Is she pretty clean? Yeah.
Sydney's like the cleanest person I know, like she showers
all the. Time.
I mean Gavin is too, but that man has a lot of like chest
hair. So no, he was going to be my
answer, but no. No, I can't.
Oh God, this is really difficult.
(56:50):
This is difficult for me. I can't think of anybody.
I mean, I guess probably one of my girls.
If I really had to choose eitherone, I'd probably be OK with.
But does it say how much? Nope, Just just.
You know who would you so you can drink 8 ounces of blood but
not body broth, but not even like a a sip a small drink of
(57:12):
body broth that fucking. I can't do I could do that.
Oh, if it was like, well, you don't ever take baths.
Rarely, but I do. I usually do like milk baths
like once a month. I'm going to say you're one of
the girls. Yeah, me or one of the girls.
Yeah, OK. Couldn't be a man, I know that.
No, no. Hell no.
(57:34):
All right, well, how? We're not going to dig deeper
into that because that was disturbing.
Yeah. Moving on.
Yeah, we stayed there too long. Really.
Straight up. Have you ever stopped being
sexually attracted to someone because of something they said?
Yes, yes, absolutely. I, I call that getting the ick.
(57:55):
Yep. You know something they say or
something they do and you're like, Nope, everything just got
real fucking dry. Yeah, if it's for me, I know
there's a quite a few different things that people can say. 1 is
saying that a woman's place is at home or in the kitchen.
(58:17):
I'm like, Oh yeah. Be any kind of a misogynist.
Yeah, not happening. No.
Or like racism. I was just gonna say phobia or
just some ignorant shit like hating on someone with
disabilities or something. Yeah.
And I'm just like gross hate speech and I'm just like, my
vagina is repulsed by you. Yeah, literally disgusting.
(58:38):
Yeah, agreed, Agreed. I think that's about it really.
That would just really fucking like immediately just kind of if
you insult me and say that I'm literally an idiot or something
like you really mean if you talkdown to me like or degrade me in
in a way like that. Yeah, no, that's that's going to
be a hard fucking goodbye. So that too hate speech on me,
(59:00):
yeah. Hate speech on others or hate
speech on me? You're out of here.
You're out of here. All right?
What is the weirdest shit that you've seen a naked person do in
a locker room or a changing room?
Oh glad you specified OK. I was like I've if I was on the
Internet in the early aughts, I saw a lot of shit, but in a
(59:21):
locker room or a. Or a changing room in a.
Changing room? Oh, I don't know, girls aren't
really that weird in changing rooms.
Right, this is like a dude question.
That's 100% a dude question. I realized that I was attracted
to chicks in a in a changing room, but that's.
Weird. No, I haven't seen anything
weird in the locker room or changing room.
(59:42):
Girls are weird. This is a dude thing.
Guys wrote these questions, I'm telling you.
Definitely, man. Yeah.
All right. Have you ever menstruated on
something and left it for someone else to clean up?
Boy, do I have a story for you. Yeah, you.
Have. I have.
Yeah, So my first husband, before we were married, we went
(01:00:03):
to see his family and we had stayed at their house.
And I did not realize that I hadstarted my period.
Well, I woke up the next morning.
He woke up early, but I woke up the next morning a little bit
after him and I was alone in theroom.
I was like, fuck, dude. I like kind of felt, you know,
you know what it feels like It was like, OK, I think I might
(01:00:25):
have started. What the heck?
And I see that and. I get out of bed, pull the
covers back. I see there's blood on it.
I just met these people. I'm like, I don't even know what
to say to them. Like I went through my head.
I'm like, OK, I could go up to them and say sorry, I bled on
your bedding. Can I treat it?
Show me where this stuff is so Icould take care of it.
Or I just pretend like I didn't even know what happened.
(01:00:48):
Just leave it for them. It's such an awkward.
What I did position to because any if I if I knew them like how
I know them now, it would be completely different.
I would absolutely be like, Hey,I you know, I bled.
I need to fucking treat these sheets or whatever and it
wouldn't even be a thing. Not embarrassing nothing.
I met them the night before, okay.
(01:01:10):
And also and also to top it off,like I grew up poor, we were
broke, they were wealthy. So that also made it really
fucking weird and odd for me. Yeah.
So it was just yeah, yeah. That's making me uncomfortable
just thinking of myself being inthat same.
Position, they're really cool. They never said anything to me
(01:01:30):
about it, which I really appreciate and I think only an
asshole would say something to somebody about that.
Yeah, kudos and Many thanks to keeping that just a a private
matter. Yes, only time my story is when
I was working in Oklahoma at my very first job down there, I was
(01:01:51):
a server. We had these wooden tables with
picnic table seats. They were detached but like a
bench seat I guess just made outof wood.
It was a closing shift. I was working and I remember
going over to bust this table and I looked down and there is a
bloody moose knuckle on this bench.
(01:02:14):
Also, you didn't menstruate on something.
No, you had to clean up some. I was the menstruation.
I was the person that was left to clean it up.
I was on the other end of the story.
Oh God. And I shit you not, it was the
most perfect print of a bloody vagina I've ever seen.
(01:02:34):
Full rounded diamond shape. Oh my God, did you take a
picture of it? No, I mean I might have at the
time. I definitely grabbed some other
coworkers to come look at it because I was like are you
fucking kidding me? Thinking about it now, I'm like
you. She may have not even known that
it happened on and. If it was like a perfect shape
of her vagina. I mean if.
(01:02:55):
She's not wearing like panties. Well, it wasn't.
She was in a skirt, solid, but the IT wasn't like full filled
in. Yeah, but the whole shape was
there. That is like a that's like a lot
of that's, that's a pretty big space that you're describing.
And I feel like, how do you not know?
Yeah, I don't know. Right, like we, we all women,
(01:03:15):
we've all had our period. We all know.
Yeah, but I had to find some gloves to dawn and how to clean
it up. Polished right, so you could
just wipe it up. It wasn't like saturating into
the. Wood.
No. Very easy cleanup.
Oh, it's very easy. Thank God.
Wow. That is, yeah, I've never had to
clean up. Nope, Nope.
Take that back. Take that back.
(01:03:38):
One of my girls, I won't say if it was a stepdaughter or
daughter, bled when they very first started their period.
Kind of bled all over the toiletand shower and left it and was
like, did you cut yourself? What happened?
What's happening here? Like how, how did this get, How
did this get to how did this get?
(01:03:59):
How did this get, you know? But they are very new to their
their menstrual cycle, like very, very brand new.
That makes a lot of sense, yeah.That's that, you know, so if it
and I cleaned it up for them just because I'm such a nice mom
and it was a little bit more to find for them like I got there.
Yeah, that's not something you want to be.
It's easy to get traumatized over and, yeah, get a lot of
(01:04:22):
shame, Right. Yeah.
And it's like, that's brand new to them.
So I'm like, OK, well, I'm not. I don't need.
Women are already made to kind of feel like their periods are
dirty and gross and to be embarrassed by.
Which is you don't need it to start out.
I just don't want it to start there.
Yeah. So.
Yeah, proper response. Yes.
All right, moving on. Sorry for the men out there, you
know. OK, well, you guys all like to
(01:04:44):
have sex with women. Guess what?
Well, this is. This is part of being with a.
Woman, that's true. Yeah.
Yeah, what? What my sister said.
We should move on now. Yes.
Have you ever thrown up while orright after giving head?
Yes, the rest of the question. My bad, thank.
You. If not, do you think you should?
(01:05:06):
If not, do you think you should go harder next time?
Men absolutely fucking wrote these questions.
Oh. God zero, you got to pump those
numbers. God, so your answer was yes, he
(01:05:28):
was thrown up wild or right after giving?
Head Which was it? Both.
Choose one Yes. Oh, both of them, OK.
Yeah, back when I was drinking alot heavier and when I was
really deep in the in the sauce.Oh shit, that's crazy.
I can't even imagine. Not like a full blown like.
(01:05:49):
There's vomit all over their fucking.
But, you know, like you, you gaga little too hard.
Yeah. Like something came up.
Yeah. Oh, like, easily to clean up and
get rid of the evidence while you're giving head.
Yeah. Oh, OK.
Yeah. Where there's a will, there's a
way. OK.
Yep. All right.
And that's I'm all. That's all I'm going to double
divulge. Just use your own boxes.
(01:06:10):
Clean the vomit off your cock, yeah.
Maybe I'll use this sheet and we'll just kick it off the bed
and nobody will ever know, basically, And that might not
even be true because I might notremember exactly.
Now you're fucking getting that.You're following along.
There, I'm there. My answer is no.
I have never thrown up while giving head or right after
(01:06:30):
giving head and do. I try harder next.
Time Do I think that I should goharder next time?
New I don't. New I'm not trying to vomit on
somebody's fucking cock. I do not need a Deep Throat that
bad. Thank you.
This is not like a fucking I'm not out here trying to win a
trophy. Oh shit, I broke her.
(01:06:57):
Deep throating champ of the year.
Oh my God. Yeah, No.
How do you try to win it through?
It's just like, I was like, whatkind of fucking question is
that? Like I didn't go hard enough on
your fucking cock that I I should go hard.
Like so hard that I throw up. Like, are you kidding me?
It's rude. Is that what you want?
(01:07:18):
I just had a drinking problem, that's all.
He. Was like, I just want to fuck
your throat hard enough that youthrow up.
Like, I'm sorry, OK, no. Then I'm going to do something
to make you throw up. Fucking tit for tat, baby.
How would that I don't stop? Let's not.
I'm going to shove my hand down your throat till you do.
Come here, bitch. Moving right along, Yes.
(01:07:42):
What's the most expensive thing you've fished out of a toilet?
My phone. Yep, yeah, Yep.
Oh yeah. Poster pre bathroom usage.
It was oh God, once it was post.I had literally like I stood, it
was in my back pocket. I stood up to pull my pants up.
It fell out of my back pocket into my piss.
(01:08:05):
I've been that fucking sucked. Yeah.
So to this day I take my phone out of my back pocket before I
fucking sit down. Yep.
I like, Nope, once was enough for me.
Thank you. I know our mom lost a phone that
way. Really.
Yeah, I don't think she had actually used the bathroom, but
it was like a brand new iPhone that she had just got and
(01:08:25):
something happened and it fell into the toilet.
She said she plucked it right out right away, but they must
have been before the phones. Phones were.
Oh, yeah, it was. It was back in back when it was
deadly to your cell phone. Yeah, it was Cle elum times.
So the iPhones were not nearly as durable.
Yeah. Yeah.
(01:08:45):
I was like, that's heartbreaking.
That's a lot of money. Yeah, I've never thrust my hand
so quickly into a toilet bowl full of piss, but, you know,
thank God it was pissed. Yeah, exactly.
Oh, could you imagine if it justdropped and like fucking hit
like a log of shit? I guess I'm going in debt for a
new phone. Or if you had the shit.
(01:09:08):
You had the period shits. You're on your period and your
shit. The whole fucking nasty
concoction. Think we don't have?
Sponsors because we'd get demonetized so fast.
What the fuck? We are not sponsoring these
fucking crazy ass bitches. OK last one for y'all.
If your cum was venomous, who would you fuck to death?
(01:09:31):
Remember, this involves having to fuck them.
Wow, yes talk about some fuckinglike Predator.
I don't know like that was some like crazy like crazy shit.
I'm thinking of like a couple different movies I've watched
where like an alien was like inside of a human body, like
posing as like a human having sex with a dude.
(01:09:53):
And then she like she's riding him and like her tail kind of
comes out of the back like a fucking scorpion.
And, and he's like, you know, having a good old time fucking
playing with her tits while she's riding him.
And then her tail just fucking comes over her shoulder and
stabs him in the heart. That sounds awesome.
But anyways, I don't know what movie that was from, but I've
seen it in my head. But anyway.
(01:10:13):
So yeah, if you're come as venomous, who would you fuck to
death? I don't know if there's anybody.
I don't dislike anyone enough tokill them.
Yeah, well, and I feel like it takes a special kind of hate to
be willing to fuck them to death, you know what I mean?
Like, yeah, I mean, you have to actually have sex with them in
order to kill them this way, which is, like its own special
(01:10:34):
kind of like, twisted fuck you, you know?
Yeah. Because then that part of them
is. Yeah, but it's also just like
such an absolute mind fuck, right?
Like, you know, you're about to kill this mother fucker, but
they think that, you know, you're like, I'm so sorry.
You were right. I was wrong.
(01:10:55):
Can you ever forgive me? I complain.
I mean, there's like, that's right.
All the bitches come back to me.I'm.
Wrong mother fucker. Pretty mantis.
Exactly. I don't know that I hate anybody
bad enough to fuck them to death.
I would say it wouldn't be anyone that I knew personally at
any point in my life, but thinking like some terrible
(01:11:16):
people that are out there in theworld, someone like that, some
actually terrible person. Well, I know you hate Elon Musk.
Oh oh oh just got nauseous. Yeah, see, that's a hard one.
It's a hard one because. Dude, I got like 14 kids.
(01:11:36):
I mean, when you put it like that, I'm like.
Right. I know, but.
But I have to have sex with them, you know?
That's hard. There's nobody.
I guess you know if I could peg them because in this scenario I
have a Dick. They said semen.
Women don't have no they. Said come, come.
(01:11:57):
Damn, yeah, you can't peg them. Fuck yeah, you can just sit on
their face. Like most direct path to death
anyways. Honestly, suffocate them.
I guess they're gonna live because I don't know.
I would have to be so fucking inebriated I wouldn't want to
remember that. No, that's just, that's hard.
That's a tough one. Like right away you're like, Oh
(01:12:19):
yeah, these people. And then you're like, well,
wait, actually I have to have sex with them.
No, really. Pausing yeah, to think about it.
That's that's icky. Yeah, that's, yeah.
That'd be a tough one. And there's nobody that I know
that I hate that much that I would have sex with them in
order to kill them. Yeah, Nope.
Oh, I don't like that card. That was a bad card.
(01:12:41):
Yeah, well that. Made me feel bad.
That made you that? Made me feel bad.
OK. I want to go home.
Wow. Well, you guys, there you have
it. I hope you had a fucking great
week. I hope you have a great week.
Welcome to June yes my youngest is graduating tomorrow from high
school so that is really exciting yes it's it's wild that
(01:13:07):
time really do be flying by fastit's so.
Crazy, she was just so tiny yesterday.
I know it's crazy. Anyways, I'm sure all of you got
like massive graduations of cousins or nieces, nephews,
children, I don't know. There's a lot of fucking people
graduating. So congratulations to the class
(01:13:28):
of 2025 man. Yes, you did it.
Fucking good for you. Good for you.
You stuck it out 12 years and you fucking made that shit
happen. There are a lot of people who
didn't do that, myself included.I got a GED.
I forget about that. Yeah, I.
Graduated, but I I got a GED. I didn't go to college.
Well, see, but don't take that as to mean it.
(01:13:49):
You know that doesn't mean shit.High school diplomas.
They they mean something. What diplomas?
High school. Shut up.
Fucking cut whatever we're posting all your fucked up shit
that you couldn't say. Whatever.
All right. Hope you all learned something
today. Maybe you got traumatized with
some shit at the tail end of theepisode, You know, walking to
(01:14:10):
the club. Those were some disturbing
pictures, men. Absolutely where I stand by
that. Men wrote those questions, man.
Yes, women probably helped with a handful.
They're like, we need just a fewmore guys.
We'll hear. Girls, you want to come up with
like 10 more? So I'm hurt, man.
Yeah. You know where to find us.
You can find us on Spotify, Amazon Music, iHeartRadio,
(01:14:31):
Pandora, Pod Chaser. Per usual, fuck Apple.
Amen. Border follow us on Instagram.
We're going to have polls there on some of the episode posts, so
you can always check those out, but check us out on Instagram at
sauceboxed. You can also check us out at X
slash Twitter at the sauce box pod and send us an e-mail if
(01:14:54):
you're feeling real real into giving us a story at the
sauceboxpodcast@gmail.com. There you have it indeed.
We'll see you next week, and howbye.
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