LNC Rants about fake trailers

Ariel and Jonathan talk about the trend of creating fake trailers and how a little transparency can go a long way. Plus a mashup involving the Merc with a Mouth!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large ner Dron Collider podcast,
the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
the world around us and how very excited we are
about them. I'm Ariel Castied, and with me, as always,
is the ever patient Jonathan Strue.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm so excited and I just can't hide it. And
I also can't say why I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's because you watched Save by the Bell, the episode
where Jesse takes the caffeine bills.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
It is not that, although I would be excited to
do that. I also am excited that Brenda the show
shay Lee, who clearly loves me very much, late last night,
sent me a video on Facebook that was the actors
from Teen Witch talking about the Top That Wrap sequence.
I'm like, this is true love, this is true love

(00:56):
that she sent me this video, because I mean, I
remember when that movie came out, and I remember when
Top That was like possibly the most awkward thing I
had ever seen on television until Jesse saying I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
I'm so scared, delightful, delightful. I'm excited too, because we're
going to sing together this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
We are we're gonna do karaoke. So yeah, I occasionally
get together with my friends and we do karaoke. And
here's the problem is that all of my friends are
amazing singers and I am not. But luckily they're very,
very very kind to me. And so yeah, we're gonna
have a get together on Saturday night. We're recording this

(01:43):
on Friday, and hopefully we'll get it out on Friday,
but we're definitely recording it then. And yeah, I'm hoping
that we can have lots of fun singing. The nice
thing is we go to a place where you can
get one of those private karaoke rooms, and that means
we can sing whatever we want. There's no danger of irritating,
you know, like a crowd who's like, I didn't come

(02:04):
here to listen to Broadway show tunes. Gosh darn it.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yeah, I haven't been there in forever. I have no
idea what their current Broadway songbook contains. It's it's certainly
not it's near what our friend's book contains.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
No, but I mean our friend will be there too.
And I believe that they also have built in where
you can actually connect your phone to the system and
use YouTube if you don't, you know, find it in
the library. I think I think they have that capability.
It's hard for me. I've gone to a couple different
places and some of them have that and some of

(02:39):
them don't. But yeah, our friend is a karaoke DJ
also a great singer, and he's going to be there
and he he has an incredible thorough library of songs.
H But yeah, it's funny because the last few times
we've gone, I mean, there's always someone who will sing

(02:59):
like a song or two from a musical, but for
the most part, we've gravitated more toward other genres, Like
we didn't do as much musical theater stuff the last
time we were there. But there's no telling. Maybe this
will end up being returned to forum. But yeah, that's cool.
I'm looking forward to seeing everybody and singing with everyone tomorrow.

(03:23):
Yeah me too.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I'm super excited as well. So we have this is
once again. I thought this was going to be a
very short episode week, so we brought our top our
discussion topic over but it may not be. But we
have to talk about our discussion topic because our mashups
also go with it.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, so our discussion topic is about and we've brought
this up on the show before, but about fake trailers,
movie trailers where it's a movie trailer that's been cut
together by somebody, or it's you know, it's done in
a movie trailer's style, but it's cut together by someone
usually taking footage from multiple projects and merging them together

(04:11):
to create the semblance of a movie trailer, but in
fact there is no such movie, or there is a
real movie that's coming out, but no trailer has been
released yet. And Ariel came across I think it was you.
Was it you that came across the article?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
I don't know, well one of us, I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
We It was on Hollywood Reporter, which is a site
that both of us use quite a bit when we
are looking into stories for the show. And the story
itself was about a fake movie trailer. This one, in particular,
was put together by a YouTube channel called kh Studio
that does this a lot, that used some AI manipulation

(04:54):
to make a fake trailer for a fake James Bond
film starring Henry Cavill and Margo Robbie, and that you know,
it racked up a lot of views, and a lot
of those views were from people who thought it was
a legitimate trailer. And I was like, yeah, let's talk
about this. Because as I do research for the show,

(05:17):
one thing I frequently do is I will go on
YouTube and I will just search the term trailer and
I'll filter it by time, Right, Like I'll say, like,
show me videos that have the word trailer in them
from the last seven days or whatever, And without fail,
some of the videos that pop up are these these

(05:39):
fan made or concept or as I call them, big
lion fake trailers.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, yeah, do we want to talk about that now
or do we want to hold off and go through
everything else.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, let's talk about it now. Let's discuss it now,
and then we'll do thirty seconds or less because we
haven't had a discussion topic in a long time on
this show.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
I mean, we talked about a lot of things last week.
We were long winded. But yeah, so here's the thing.
I I like being creat people being creative with the
properties that they like. Right, We've gotten some amazing like
Power Rangers, Immortal Kombat type content, Fresh Princes type content

(06:19):
by people making fan videos. I love fan videos. Batman
has some amazing fan videos.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, like Batman versus predator.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah. But the problem comes is when you're like new trailer,
you're saying that specifically to make people think that it's
a legitimate thing and not a fan thing, and like
that the lie, the lie is the thing I have
an issue with. I would watch a fan trailer. I

(06:49):
watch lots of fan trailers or lots of fan made content.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Did you ever see this was years and years ago.
This was like early days of YouTube, not super early,
but like YouTube have been around for a little bit,
but not that long. Do you remember the fan trailer
slash kind of digital portfolio project Grayson.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yes, Like that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
That's the one I think of. I'm like Grayson. That
was like it was one of those things that people
were convinced, oh, is this an actual movie. I can't
wait for this to come out, and then you'd say, no, no,
this is it. That's all there is. There is no film,
and Grayson was this fan made creation. It was really
to show off filmmaking and editing techniques. It was like

(07:35):
a portfolio project, but it was set in the DC universe,
and it's set in the world that has like like
Batman's been apparently killed. Superman is a sort of a threat,
kind of like in the Frank Miller version of Batman,
Catwoman is overacting her socks off. Most of the performance

(08:00):
are like cartoonish but within the realm of DC. But
Catwoman is a little over the top even for this.
But yeah, it was this kind of like kitchen sink approach,
and people got really excited because they're like, oh, all
these characters that I love, like Green Lantern was shown
in it, Wonder Woman, Penguin, Joker, the Riddler, like there

(08:22):
were so many different characters. Everyone was so excited, and
then it turned out, oh, well, this was to showcase
this filmmaker's talents, but there is no movie that is
the project, just the trailer.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
And that again totally fine. I love stuff like that.
Just make it. And I realized that the reason why
you're like, oh, this is a new trailers because you
want people to click on it. You want the views,
right Yeah, And if you're like, this is a fan
trailer I made, there's a good handful of people who
are not going to watch it.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
But right, if you present it as if it's the
legitimate thing, then you're going to get a lot more clicks.
But at the same time, it feels like a It
feels like you're being tricked right when you click into it.
So Cage Studio and Screen Culture in particular, those two
channels are really prolific, and I would say bad about

(09:14):
doing this Occasionally. You will see in the brief description
underneath the video title, this is our first look concept
at blah blah blah, And I'm like, Okay, at least
there there's the actual acknowledgement that this is a concept
trailer that they have created. But not all of them,

(09:35):
do some of them. It's just like, you know, trailer
for the first look at Thunderbolts. That's what I've seen
a few times, right, And then you look and you're like,
there's no acknowledgement in the short form description. It might
be buried longer in the full description, but in the
part that shows up just in search results, it doesn't

(09:55):
say anything. You click on it and you're like, this
is all foot from either previous Marvel movies or sometimes
films that the actors were in, but have no connection
whatsoever to the actual Marvel films. And I get irrationally
angry about it.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, yeah, me too, Because sometimes it is hard to tell,
especially if it's one of if it's a property that
like you're not super familiar with, you know, and they
pull clips. If it's a Marvel thing, I can usually
like in the first five to ten seconds go, no,
this is this is a fake because I recognize the content, right,
I've seen most Marvel stuff. But yeah, especially for some

(10:40):
of the movies that I'm excited about that don't really
have predecessors, it's it's harder to tell. So now I'm like, oh,
there's a trailer out let me look for the trailer
released by the actual studio, and if I can't find it,
ninety five percent likely it's a fake.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah, if it's I mean, if it's something like
a legitimate journalism outlet, Like I mean, it's hard to
say Entertainment Tonight is a legitimate journalism, but you know,
Entertainment Tonight is a known quantity. It's not going to
They're not going to knowingly push out a fake trailer
unless it's like April Fool's Day or something and they

(11:17):
just getting sassy with it. But otherwise, like those sorts
of things I can get away, I can get around.
I'm like, Okay, this is probably legit. But usually I'm
the same way Ariel. I want to look for the studio,
like I want to see is it Disney? Is it
Marvel because they publish on separate channels. Is it Warner Brothers?

(11:38):
Is it Sony? Like who is it that's playing this video?
Because if it's Cage Studio or Screen Culture pretty much
can guarantee it's not a real trailer.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
Yeah, yeah, And I will say, like I I was
torn because Hollywood Reporter has a link to the trailer
that Cage Studio made. And on the one hand, again
I like fan stuff if you want to if you
want to showcase your artistic creativity, that's fine. On the
other hand, I don't like that when I click on
I says new trailer for James Bond whatever. And then

(12:09):
also they used a bunch of ai, which I think
there are responsible uses for it, but right now it's
still very like super touchy.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
If it makes you feel any better, they did.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
A really bad job with it, Okay, that's that does
make me feel better, because like, yeah, I don't know. Also,
I'm I'm excited. I like. I like Henry cavill a lot.
I think he's a great actor. I think he plays
serious and he also is an amazing comedic actor who
doesn't get to do enough comedy, and a geek, which
is awesome. I haven't met him, but that's at least

(12:45):
his public persona. But I'm more excited about the other
people that we're potentially getting as James Bond. Yeah, like
Aaron Taylor Johnson, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah, Well, and I mean you could tell immediately that
this was a fake because it's Henry Cavill doing an
American accent. Why the heck would you have Henry Cavill
doing an American accent for James freaking Bond, the British.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Spy Listen, listen, Well, if it was a Southern accent,
I'd say, because right now on TikTok, there's this big
trend about people just realizing that Shakespeare sounds really good
in Southern dialect.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Like Appalachian.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Yeah, Appalachian. Even though Jake I don't remember his name,
but he's a voiceover actor and he's amazing, So.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Now you're looking him up. Vamp, I'll vamp. So yeah.
The theory is that in Shakespeare's time, Elizabethan English sounded
a lot closer to what you can hear in parts
of Appalachia as opposed to the modern English accent, so
that if you were to travel into like the Blue

(13:55):
Ridge Mountains or the Smoky Mountains, you would counter communities
that would have an accent closer to what you would
have heard if you were in Shakespeare's London.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
Yeah. Yeah, so Jake Phillips, he's I discovered him on TikTok.
But he's a really great voice actor who reads a
lot of like poetry and classic literature, does a bunch
of Shakespeare in a Southern dialect. He's been doing it
for years now, as far as I can tell. And
you know, so when when it showed up on after
Midnight of like, oh, everybody's just figuring out that Shakespeare

(14:28):
sounds good in Southern I'm like, well, I knew that
since I did Shakespeare when I was a teenager. And
also this isn't a super new trend.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
But yeah, I mean, the scholarship about the sound of
the language has been around for decades because I remember
studying it when I was in college, which was only
shortly after Shakespeare himself died, So it's a it's not
new information, but yeah, it was still it didn't sound southern.

(14:55):
It was just Henry Cavill speaking in a bog standard
mid Atlanta, not mid Atlantic, but you know, like Eastern
seaboard kind of Transatlantic. Not Transatlantic. No, that would sound
well like this. No, he was just speaking of saying, yeah,
I'd stake my pilitz on it. No, he was just

(15:15):
giving just a regular old uh, like what we would
consider unaccented American English, right, like your very standard American accent.
And then also for as far as the AI goes,
there was a bit where it was clearly AI manipulation
of Margo Robbie's mouth so that it would kind of
match what the voiceover was saying, but it doesn't really

(15:38):
like the lips don't move properly in time, So it
is a little you're giving me a look, Ariel, like
you're kind of schewed out by it. I will say
it did have a bit of a horror movie feel
to it, just because you're like, well, that's not right.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
I'm just having flashbacks to Henry Cavill in Justice League
with the whole like mustache, the fake upper lip. Yeah,
it was. It was. I made an audible what the
heck noise in the theater when I was watching Justice Leek.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Well, I mean you could have been doing that for
the whole movie, but uh yeah, I was not. I
have really not liked this trend of the concept trailers
at all because I do feel that they are on
the whole deceptive. I don't feel like they are presented

(16:29):
in good faith because I agree with you that if
it was something where it was very clearly labeled as
a concept or a fan made trailer, that to me
is a very different story than just presenting it as
if it's the real, legit deal. And you know me, Ariel, like,

(16:49):
we've had discussions about this, not even about entertainment, about
how I get very angry at people who are trying
to deceive others. There was a time years ago when
we were looking at a company to see about whether
or not it would be a particularly good employer. One
of us was looking for employment, and the two of
us together were looking into these different companies that were

(17:12):
reaching out, and we were realizing, Hey, this supposed company
is using a website that has been used in like
six other cities with identical layouts and pictures, but different
addresses and slightly different wording. It's a scam, and it
gets me so angry every time.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, yeah, same. Same. With that being said, we've kind
of for a mashups today, written our own concept trailers,
so that'll be fun and exciting.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yeah, in mind, I ended up not going the trailer route.
I just wrote a movie. But it's okay. Actually, really,
I didn't even write a movie. I wrote a ranting,
curmudgeonly old man review of one of the two films.
And you'll understand when we get there.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
I wrote, to stupid movie trailer.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
That's great, though, you understood the assignment and I and
I went off the I went off the rails.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, but understanding and executing the assignment are two different things.
It was like, I had this idea, I thought it
was brilliant, and then I was like, well, this is
a lot harder.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Than I thought.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
But that's that's for future. So did you watch anything
geeky other than this horrible fan trailer this week?

Speaker 2 (18:24):
I did. I saw Late Night with the Devil came
to streaming, so I thought, well, I'm gonna watch this.
That's the movie that is set in the late nineteen
seventies at a late night talk show and and and
then the debill shows up or a demon shows up
and hijinx en Sue, and I want to say I

(18:49):
liked it. It's complicated though, because I went into it
thinking it was one thing and it was not that thing,
which is I would maybe it's on me, but it's
also I think part of the marketing. I went into
it thinking it was gonna be like a dark comedy
horror film, like there's gonna be more comedy in it,

(19:11):
maybe not like haha comedy, but humor. There's really very
little of that at all. There's a bit, but not much.
It's really more like playing up tropes about like the
competitive nature of late night television and the pressures that
are on this particular host as he's trying desperately to

(19:33):
rake in a lot of views during sweeps week. That's
the fact that he's having these guests who are claiming
paranormal abilities on the show. And it was more of
a straight up horror film than I anticipated. So for
that reason, I don't think I enjoyed it as much
as I was hoping I would. But again, you could

(19:54):
argue that's my fault for coming in with the wrong expectation.
I think it's also again the marketing, because the marketing
made it look a little more I don't know if
campy is the right word, but a little more comedic.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
It looks slightly tongue in cheek.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, I don't think it really is, though I don't
think ultimately it comes in, which is unfortunate because I
also don't think it goes quite hard enough to be
outright demonic possession horror. I don't think it's a bad
demonic possession horror movie, but I don't think it's one
of the best ones. I think it's somewhere in the

(20:30):
middle of the pack. I think the setting and the
high concept help it a little bit. I thought the
performances were great and I mostly enjoyed it. But maybe
I would have liked it more in the theater. That
might have been something that would have had a better effect.

(20:52):
But I didn't hate it. I liked it. I think
I need to see it again, honestly, like me.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
With with bal Star Galactico, where I went in thinking
expecting one thing and I had to take myself out
of it for a bit and then go back with
fresh eyes.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Yeah, this new thing that it was that sounds pretty
much like my experience.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yes, I get that I didn't watch much Geeky this week,
some more X Men, and then some so you think
you can dance, and then rewatching Fallout because I wasn't
sure if we were going to have a watch party,
but apparently we are. I will say watching Fallout this
closely together again, it is a different experience watching it

(21:35):
knowing what's going to happen. Still enjoyable, but completely different.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Interesting. And of course Ariel's also been busy in her
professional life, and she won't tell me what that is.
So yeah, from why I understands it's cool.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
I mean, I am working on a really cool sci
fi web series right now.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a vaguely like it's like Indiana Jones
with aliens, kind of a little bit cool. Yeah, So
it's my It's it's gonna be interesting. I look forward
to watching it develop. It's been a lot of fun
working and rehearsing with the actors. We're doing a lot
of rehearsal because there's gonna be special effects and you

(22:26):
have to like know where they are. And this way
when we go to actually tape, we'll have it down
and it'll be a much quicker filming process.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Right right, You won't be like, oh, sorry, we need
you to you know, look about three degrees to your right.
You're like, uh, can you can you maybe word that away?
That makes sense to me? Well, I will share.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
I will share that as information comes out about it.
You know, even even if it ends up being I'm
sure it'll be a wonderful project, but even if it
ends up being a little bit silly, I'll share it
because it's fun.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Well yeah, and I mean, like to me, it also
opens up this opportunity to talk about like what experiences
are like when you're doing this sort of thing. Like usually,
you know, when it comes to really hearing about what
the experience is like, you have to wait for behind
the scenes interviews or like special features on DVDs, and

(23:16):
even then you're like, well, this is something that's been
vetted through a studio, so like I don't know if
these stories are just like the legitimate things that were
going on, or if this is just the approved messaging
or whatever. So it's always fun to talk to someone
and just be like, so, yeah, what was your actual experience,
like what it was it fun? Was it a lot

(23:39):
of waiting for things and then rushing through and then
waiting again. Like in my experience, that's what filmmaking is.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
But I mean sometimes it is. I have I have
spent on some independent stuff, long days sitting around waiting
for my turn to film, and that's fine, you know,
it gives me a chance to further develop the character.
There's a lot of prep work that goes into acting.
It's not just showing up on set and getting into
costume and jumping into it.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Sure, And of course filmmaking is such a hugely collaborative effort.
I mean it's like so many different people have absolutely
critical jobs to do in order for a film to work.
And yeah, like it's understandable when sometimes it takes time
for all those different pieces to be ready, right, Like

(24:29):
it'd be great if everyone was ready to go at
the same time. But that's just we all know, Like
you could test something thirty times the day before, and
then the day of the thing that worked thirty times
out of thirty it refuses to work and you just
have to figure out something different, And that's just the
way life is.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, And Jonathan, to be fair, like, if I ever
auditioned for and book a Marvel movie, for example, yes,
I probably would also have to vet my responses to
my experiences.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
I mean, you say that, but now that I absolutely
know that it's one hundred confirmed that you're the new
Iron Man, I'm gonna have you give the insider looks
all the way through.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
And that's how you get fired as Iron Man, unless
you're as cute as Tom Holland, which I am not,
because Tom Holland spoils a whole bunch of stuff apparently.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah. Yeah, well, that's why they would always pair him
with someone else. It's like Mark Ruffalo, you have to
pair them with someone else who's there to be like
no Mark Ruffalo, no bad Mark Ruffalo, bad Tom Holland.
Let's be slapping my own hand.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
I'm pretty good at keeping things close to the.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Hat, that's not yeah, hat, hat to the vest and
close to the hat. And we're all headed here.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yes, but you know, I look forward to the day
when I can tell you all, hey, go see this
TV show or this movie. I'm in it if it
doesn't and your sensibilities. But today is not that day.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Okay, Well, since we know that today we will not
be revealing in thirty seconds or less, aerial star turn
in the next a big blockbuster movie. How about we
go to what we do have for thirty seconds or less?
Is that cool?

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yes? It is, and I will start so speaking of
Justice League and Zack Snyder and Snyder cuts and things
like that, Hey, Rebel Moon is getting multiple director's cuts.
We knew this already. It looks like each director cut's
going to be like three hours, and there's going to
be completely different scenes and lines that were in the

(26:40):
original two movies on Netflix might have a completely different
meaning because they're just they're making it our INSTEADT thirteen
and also just like basically rewriting the whole thing, which
once again just nails home my thoughts that Zack Snyder
just needs to allow himself to be edited down, Like

(27:03):
you don't need four versions of a movie.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Okay, Zack Snyder, you keep using director's cut. I do
not think it means what you think it means. Well.
Tom Holland recently reassured fans that Spider Man four is
still very much in his plans for the future, but
he stressed that the team still has to find the
right story to tell, which makes sense. I don't think
a film about Spider Man just having a crappy, boring

(27:26):
day would do very well. Interestingly, there's a rumor going
around that Sam Raimi and Toby McGuire could be down
to do a fourth Spider Man in that series, but
that to me sounds like it might just be wishful thinking.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I don't know, I'd be for more youth pastor Toby
McGuire Spider Man happening just.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Go dancing down the street yet again.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yes, so looks like we might be getting a new
Sleepy Hollow movie remake is underway at Paramount Hollywood. Record
announces that the first look deal is with filmmaker Lindsay
Anderson Beer, who worked on pet Cemetery and is also

(28:12):
working on some other fun stuff.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
My favorite versions of three seconds or less are the
ones where you just peter out, thank you, Okay, well,
just keep doing it, please do, please do. Don't change
for anybody, all right. So, some Disney rides are based
on films. Some of the rides are not based on films,
but they still have a clear story. And then some

(28:39):
are Space Mountain, which is really just a space themed
roller coaster and that's all there is to it. So
of course it's being turned into a movie. Josh Applebaum
and Andre Namak are writing the screenplay. They were the
showrunners on the Netflix series Cowboy Bebop, so they know
how to tell a space story that goes nowhere and
gets canceled at for one season. Jokes. Yay.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Speaking of jokes, we're getting Thursday. Murder Club movie cast
has been announced Pierce Brosnan, Ben Kingsley, and Helen Muran.
It's based on a book series about septagenarians who solved
murders in a retirement community. That sounds like fun to me.
It's like the Yes and of the old older movie Red.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
That's so cool, all right? Lakeith Stanfield and Lorenzo di
Bonaventura are producing a film adaptation of the video game
El Paso Elsewhere, which is kind of like Max Payne
mixed with Blade. It's a shooter set in a world
filled with vampires with some time slowed down elements. In
other words, Well, Stanfield is also in talks to star

(29:43):
in the film. So will this be a video game
adaptation that's well received like Fallout or Last of Us?
Or will it be dismissed like Halo? Honestly, I have
no idea.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
I hope, so I'm just trying to give a clever
segue kind of spit out. Lord of the Rings. The
Lord of the Rings trilogy is returning to summer, returning
to theaters this summer June eighth, ninth, and tenth. It
is the extended remastered versions of it. So if you
want to spend a total of a little over twelve
hours over three days watching the Lord of the Rings movies,

(30:20):
you now have the opportunity to do it. If you
haven't seen the Lord of the Rings movies, they hold
up pretty well, you should do.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Yeah. First, one's great, second, one's good, third, one's okay.
In my one has Billy Boyd singing though, so it does.
It does, which could go either way for you, depending
on how you feel.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
All right, so it's good.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Zach Kreigor, who made the film Barbarian, has a new
horror film and development called Weapons, and he started casting
that film. Josh Brolin and Julia Garner are on board
the Star in Quote, an interrelated multi story horror epic
that tonally is in the vein of Magnolia. According to
the Hollywood Reporter, Garner's a pretty busy woman as she

(30:58):
is currently shooting Wolfman and we'll be in another upcoming
project that I'm going to talk about in oh I
don't know half a minute.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Both great actors should be a good movie. Looks like
there's an off Broadway play coming to Broadway. It's Oh Mary,
based on Mary Todd Lincoln's experiences right before Abraham Lincoln
gets murdered, just kind of like her unhappy life. I

(31:36):
don't know how to feel about it, but apparently it's
really popular. So if you're in New York check it out.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, it just makes me think of the joke about well,
apart from that, missus Lincoln, what did you think of
the play? So hey, I'm back with more Julia Garna
action among everything else. She also stars an Apartment seven A,
which is a prequel to the classic horror movie Rosemary's
Baby movie set in nineteen sixty five. Sure to be
a devil of a good time anyway, Apartment seven A

(32:04):
comes out this fall on Paramount Plus. Julia Garner will
also be seen in the upcoming film of The Fantastic
Four because she's not the invisible woman, so she will
be seen. To get it, it's funny joke there. She'll
be Shallabald and also the Silver Server.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Look get ready for another story where I Peter out.
If you are looking forward to watching The Wild Robot,
you're gonna have to wait a whole seven days more.
The film debut has now been moved from September twentieth
to September twenty seventh. I know that is a long
time too.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Eight weird. I wonder there must be another movie coming
out that day that they decided they didn't want to
go up against, because I can't think of that. There's
no way a week would otherwise make a difference. I wonder.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
I love it because they moved, because they moved Transformers
one to September twentieth.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
That's that does make sense, okay.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
And Beetlejuice. Beetle Juice is coming out on September sixth,
so that's seven days is going to make a real difference, Yes.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
It really will. All right, Well, we've got some news
about actors cast in twenty eight years Later, and shocking enough,
Julia Garner is not on the list, but Jody Komer,
Ray Fines, and Aaron Taylor Johnson made it. And so
this is a sequel to twenty eight days Later, the
not a zombie zombie movie that starred Killian Murphy. Murphy

(33:24):
is an executive producer on this project, and that's pretty
much all we know about it so far. But I
do like the actors who are listed, and I love
the first film, so I'm on board.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
I liked it as well. So did you watch the
second one? No?

Speaker 2 (33:38):
I think we had a discussion about this and I
said I was going to watch it, and I still
haven't seen was it twenty eight weeks later? I think, yeah,
I haven't seen it, and you said you really liked it.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I like this series. I honestly don't remember which was
which movie today, I've a headache. Everybody who's listening.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, no, she's soldiering on like she already had a headache,
and then she has to talk to me.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
It's true. This last story is barely even a story. Apparently,
on reddits someone who previously worked for the company that
makes Blue said that they have are not writing more episodes,
and so new the series might be coming to it
and there's no season for production. This is a rumor
that it eventually got taken down. I don't even know

(34:21):
why I put it in here.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
Because bluey thirty seconds or nothing, that's what we're called
segment now. So Blue is blue Kub bluey. We don't know,
and neither do you unless you're the producers.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Clever well. Not everything that we think is kabluey is,
for instance, Wolverine, Hugh Jackman as Wolverine.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, we thought he was done for because like that's
what he said after he shot Logan, Like Logan was
meant to be the finale, the swan song of Hugh
Jackman as Wolverine, him putting to bed that character Logan.
By the way, if you haven't seen it is a masterpiece.
It's a it is amazing film.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
It's a little less fun if the people in the
theater around you almost get into a fistfight in the
middle of the movie. Nike's yeah. Yeah. I went to
see it and there were two families and one family
the kids were all on like iPads. The screens were
bright and they were being loud, and the other family
was not having it, and like the other family, dad

(35:30):
like threatened violence, and they got up in each other's
faces in the movie theater, and like a movie theater
employee had to come in and ask them to move
it too the hallway, and then we heard them yelling
in the hallway.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
It was a lot, and you know, already I would
have been like, I understand, getting childcare is not always easy,
it's not always practical, but bringing your kids to Logan
is a choice, y'all. That was not a that was
an R rated movie.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
It was mainly for violence, I would say.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
Yeah, but still, I mean, like, actually violence is the
part that I'd be the most concerned about. I always,
I always think it's interesting that in America, the emphasis
on whether something is appropriate or not tends to be
centered around nudity and situations around nudity, and then like
everywhere else, it's like, no, we're kind of concerned about

(36:24):
the part where he made the the guy's head pop
like a like a like a grape.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Like you know, yeah, I mean, I really think what
it is is some people looked at the movie and said.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Oh, there's a kid in this, or it's a superhero movie,
so it's got to be you know, appropriate for children,
and well, of course we're dancing around it. But I mean,
obviously everyone knows that Wolverine is back because it's he's
part of the the Deadpool and Wolverine movie, which is
not People have said it's not Deadpool three, even though
it is the continuation of that version of Deadpool. It's

(36:56):
Deadpool and Wolverine, and we got another full trailer for it,
not just a teaser. I thought this trailer was interesting, Ariel,
because unlike the teaser, which really focused heavily on the TVA,
this one, like the TVA is in it, but they
aren't given that much time in the trailer. It's really

(37:16):
a lot more about Deadpool and Wolverine.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Yeah. I mean they do talk a lot about Wolverine's
world in the trailer and how he he let his universe.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Go to go to h double hockey sticks.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah, we also get the villain. I don't think the
villain was shown in the trailer as much. Cassandra Nova.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, that's Professor X's quote unquote sister. And we see
her manipulating Wolverine, like physically manipulating him with her mind
and with like a smirk on her face and very
sharp gestures. And as I was watching it, I'm like,
this actor really knows how to play a villain, because

(38:03):
this is like like text book villain, uh kind of
of actions and and a look on her face. It
was really well done.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah. Yeah, she's much prettier than in the comics, I
will say yes, or or they are much prettier than
in the comics.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I'm not actually sure who that who the actor is,
or what pronouns they use.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Emma Emma Coryna is the actor who did a murder
at the End of the World and the Crown. She's
Nosferatu or they are in noatuh. But anyhow, Yeah, I
think I think they make a really good villain. I

(38:47):
love the little plays to the superhero world in the
In the trailer, there's a store called Sleive Fields.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Just feet. Yeah, that's a reference reference to the creator
of Dead Bull. Yeah, he.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Made some choices in his artwork.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Yeah, well, you know, I thought it was interesting. There's
a sequence where you see a giant helmeted skull of
ant Man in the background that's been turned almost into
like some sort of chamber or something, and I'm like, wow,
that's heavy, Like that is clearly ant Man's helmet. That's

(39:27):
clearly a giant skull. Some bad things have happened in
this particular multiverse universe.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah, I mean there's also a broken twentieth century Fox
sign in.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
That very very fun, little cheeky nod to the former
studio that produced.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Deadpool, and maybe the worst thing in that universe. Wolverine's
hair is so dumber than usual.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah. Well, he's also wearing the yellow and blue costume,
which is interesting because you never like he'd made you know,
there's a joke in the original X Men film about him,
you know, dismissing this idea about yellow and blue spandex
or whatever. So it's funny to see him finally wearing it.

Speaker 1 (40:09):
Yeah. Yeah, all in all, I'm pretty excited for it. Honestly,
me too.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
I'm interested to see how this story unfolds. It's like,
I'm really curious about a few things, Like I'm curious
about how Deadpool's relationship with his beloved has kind of
fallen apart, because we know that that's part of the story,
is that they're no longer together. She's still friends with

(40:35):
him because she's there at his birthday party, but they're
no longer dating apparently. They're also, of course, obviously some
very fun meta jokes that are poking fun at the
Disney studio, like Deadpool specifically says that they can't joke
about an illicit substance because that figy said that was

(40:56):
specifically off the table.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
Yeah, they do it for like five minutes, longer than
the trailer. I think it's interesting because I think we
talked about during the strike that during during the writer's strike,
that they could film parts of Deadpool, but Ryan Reynolds
couldn't improve and so he because he was the writer,
so he'd also have to like ad R that later.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Weird. Yeah, I remember we did talk about that and
it was I don't know how much go ahead. I
was just gonna say it was my impression that they
ultimately just paused the production until the writer's strike was reconciled,
because I mean it's possible that they did that. They
did do some of that stuff where because the character

(41:45):
is in a mask for much of it, you could
just keep shooting footage of him in a mask looking
around or whatever, and then ad r everything.

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Yeah. Well, I was going to say, I wonder if
they even got to it, because shortly after the writers
strike we had the actor strike. Ye. It's just a
double whammy. You can't film during that. So anyhow, I'll
be interested. I'm just interested to see how the whole
thing turned out. Deadpool is one of those ones where,
like I really enjoyed the first and the second movie,
and this third movie looks like I will still.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Enjoy it well, and I'm eager to see what other
elements from other Marvel films they're gonna pull in, because
we've heard obviously about various actors coming in to reprise
their roles, often from the Fox era of X Men films,
but being part of the Marvel umbrella, you just don't

(42:40):
know who's going to show up. There's a point in
the preview where there's a portal that's opening up, and
it looks just like one of the portals that doctor
Stranger Wong would open, So you're wondering, like, Okay, who's
responsible for that? Are we going to get a doctor
Strange cameo in Deadpool and Wall? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Yeah, yeah, we'll We'll have to wait and see, but
hopefully when does it it comes out September. I just
said that earlier in this episode. Sorry, my head hurts. Uh.
It feels very far away, okay. Uh. We also got
a new trailer for The Watchers, Yeah, which is not
The Trap by m Night Shayamalam, but.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
It's produced by him Night Shayamalan. Yeah, but it's not
directed by him. Yeah, this is this is like, this
is one of those trailers where I watched it and
again by the end of it, I was thinking, I
have kind of a sense of what the tone of
the film is, but I'm still not really sure what
it's about.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah. Yeah, as far as I can tell, a girl
gets stuck in the woods with her bird, who is
not supposed to be able to talk. So my guess
is the bird is the big villain, and uh, because
it does talk and it's not supposed to. And her
car disappears, and there are these creatures that she can't
see that are coming after her, and she gets pulled
into this room as a place of safety, and then

(44:04):
she's in this room where these creatures that were coming
after her watch them all creepily.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Yeah, Like somehow the people who are captured inside this
room are there for the entertainment of these creatures or something.
It's hard to say, Like obviously the trailer doesn't want
to give away too much, but it's definitely weird to
a point where I'm like, I don't know if there's
an easy way to summarize what this film is actually about,

(44:36):
but I am intrigued.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
These creatures are trying to make their own Truman show.
That's all it is.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah, but the problem is that they aren't subtle enough,
so everyone already is aware that they're in the Truman Show,
so that you can't get that cinema veritay that you're
really hoping for.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
Yeah. And also, like at one point in the trailer,
one of the characters husband shows up outside and they're like, no,
it's a trap. So I wonder if the like people
are afraid to leave this room. But it's really okay.
So the monsters that are watching them just keep trying
to be like, no, we don't like you're boring now,
please just leave, go home. We don't care.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Yeah. Yeah, Sweeps Week has got to be brutal in
that universe. Yeah. I, like I said, I'm intrigued, I
don't know that I'm intrigued enough to go and see
this in the theater. This might be one that I
can wait for, kind of like like Late Night with
the Devil. But then again, like I said, I might
have enjoyed Late Night with the Devil more had I
gone to the theater. So maybe I need to start

(45:32):
reevaluating my strategy on these films.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Speaking of enjoying things more. We got a new trailer
for Atlas, and the second trailer makes me much more
interested in the story.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
It looks a lot different than what the because the
first trailer was giving me gravity feels like it felt
like science fiction story of a woman who is put
into a survival situation and is largely on her own
and her attempt to survive. This trailer looked more like

(46:05):
a woman who is uh this this badass soldier who
then is thrust into a situation where it's like hopeless odds.
So it felt like a very different film. It's funny
that the two trailers could give me such different impressions
of what the movie's about. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
This this trailer has Jennifer Jennifer Lopez, right, yes j
Jlo escaping, escaping in a mech suit that has an AI.
She doesn't trust AI, but she ends up befriending this
particular AI. Kind of very Flight of the Navigator esque,
sort of like a snarky Flight of the Navigator esque

(46:45):
sort of relationship between the two as she goes out
and tries to like rescue her her uh her coworker,
I guess yeah friend who is Simouliu, which is awesome.
I don't know. It actually looked pretty cute, and it's Netflix,
so it's low risk maybe high reward to watch it.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Yeah, I mean it's so it's making me feel like
there's some other science fiction movies this is reminding me
of because of that nature of you've got a character
who has an inherent distrust in all versions of something else, right,
some sort of outsider. So it's making me think of Bright,

(47:31):
which was that terrible movie with Will Smith where it
was he's a human cop paired with an orc cop
in a world that has fantasy characters. It also reminds
me of a movie called Alien Nation, where a human
and an alien detective pair are paired together and have
to work together even though the human has biases and

(47:53):
prejudices about aliens. Like as I was watching this trailer,
I could not help but feel like I've seen this
movie before. It wasn't about AI, but it was about
something very similar in the sense of your protagonist is
inherently distrustful of something or someone that they later will
have to put their life in its hands.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
I don't know how this one's gonna turn out. I'm
not I'm not as sold on it as you are.
I'm not I'm not hating on it, but I remain unconvinced.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
Yeah, you know, but it's AI, and that's like that's
not a new thing, but it is a very prominent.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Thing, right well obviously, yes, absolutely, Yeah, I mean I
can totally understand why they went with AI for this
particular story. I'm just feeling like, and maybe it will
be significantly different from those other projects I just mentioned,
and that like it'll it'll stand on its own, but
it just feels to me like it's the same story
just with the detail of what the the partner is

(49:01):
switch to AI because AI is really trendy.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
Yeah, it is interesting because on the one hand, like, yes,
I am in the camp of there was a really
great meme that a mutual friend of our shared once,
which is, I don't want to live in a world
where I work a menial job while AI gets to
make art.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah. Yeah, that's the opposite of what's supposed to happen.
If you watch Star Trek, you know that what is
supposed to happen is all the robots are supposed to
do the dull, mindless stuff, freeing us up to pursue
our dreams, not the other way around.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
That being said, they're like someone shared there's this AI
thing where it tries to detect the emotions in your voice.
And on the one hand, I don't want to train
an AI to be better at imitating human emotions because
that hurts my job, right, But on the other hand,

(49:58):
it was really interesting because could ask it stuff like
I looked into it. It was a part of my
other job. You could ask it stuff like do you
have a conscience? Are you self aware? Do you feel?
And it was just really interesting, really interesting responses. You know.
So I treat all of my AI and computer and

(50:21):
virtual assistance well just in case they gained sentience, because
at that point they deserve to be treated well.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah, I continue to be abusive and awful toward them,
but that's how I am to all of my subservience.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, speaking of things that remind us of other things,
you shared a trailer for Blink Twice, which is Zoe
Kravitz's kind of directorial debut, and it felt like a
dark knives out glass onion to me.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah. I think it's definitely got some some dark comedy
threat her psychological thriller action going on there. Where this
young woman and her friend end up being invited to
tag along with a like a tech billionaire and his

(51:15):
incredibly rich buddies to his private island and then something
seems to be a miss and and things unfold and
escalate from there. It also kind of reminded me a
little bit of the trailer for The Menu. You know,
not necessarily the film The Menu, but when the trailer

(51:36):
came out, like I had all these different ideas of
what The Menu was gonna be, and it turns out
I was wrong about almost all of it, because I
thought it was going to be like a human cannibal
movie or something me too, which is why I did
not watch it.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
But I know it's not a.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Cannibal Yeah, it's not a cannibal film at all, but
it and it turned out to be one of those
movies that I absolutely like. The Menu is one of
my favorite films from the last few year years. I
don't think it's necessarily one of the best films from
the last few years, but it certainly I found it
incredibly entertaining, and this trailer looks really interesting to me,

(52:13):
Like I like the dark comedy aspect to it. I
like the thriller aspect to it. I like, you know
a lot of the actors who are in it. It's
it's funny to see, like, like Christian Slater is only
in the trailer for a moment, but the fact that
he's there is kind of interesting. Kyle McLaughlin, he's in
it for even less. But I'm a huge Kyle McLaughlin fan.

(52:35):
Haley Joel Osmont, who you know, you don't see him
very much anymore, so seeing him pop up was great.
Aliah Shawkat, of course I love her seeing her and
it was great. So yeah, it's Channing Tatum or Tanning Chatham,
as Ariel likes to say.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Yeah, and a bunch of these. So it is really
interesting because a lot of those actors, even Christian Slater
to some degree, our actors that I equate. He's maybe
the least of with more like comedic movies I.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Think of Christian I don't know. I think I think
of Christian Slater in dark comedies. But that's because if
I think Christian Slater, the first film that comes to
mind is Heathers, and that is like, that's like a
quintessential dark comedy.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
I've never seen him. It is not for you.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
I don't think, I mean, you can handle it. It's
not there's nothing in it that would that I can
recall that would be on your no no list. But
it is very dark. It is a very dark film.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
I've sung a song from the musical in a cabaret once.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Yeah, I have not seen the musicals, and I mean,
I'm sure the musical more or less follows the plot
of the film. I mean, some musicals deviate wildly from
their source material. So I shouldn't say that since I
haven't seen it, but uh yeah, I mean, like Christian
Slater is very unnerving in that movie, to great effect,

(54:01):
like he's supposed to be. So that's so when I
think Christian Slater, that's the first thing, which is why
I'm like, oh, it's cool to see him in this,
because here's this new movie coming out where also something
is clearly not right, Like yeah, bringing Christian Slater onto
a project like that is just it's just one of
those wonderful like it feels like it's almost a reference

(54:23):
to a previous moment in his career.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
So do you know who I missed that was in it?
That is in it?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Who's that? Gina Davis yeah, I didn't see her in
the trailer. I saw that she was on the list
of actors on there. But that's awesome too, Like, yeah,
I really like this trailer. It was again it's a
trailer where you get the vibe and you kind of understand,
like a bit of the story about the fact that

(54:50):
here's this young woman who gets invited to go on
this crazy whirlwind trip and you know, is it insane
for her to say yes hardly knowing the person who's
inviting her, Like you know a person by their reputation,
but you don't actually know the person. I'm like, well,
this is kind of this is kind of pushing some

(55:12):
buttons for me. I'm very curious about it. It comes
out on August twenty third.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yeah, yeah, I think these next three stories because I
know we're starting to run long again. So these next
three stories we can just basically touch on quickly.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Okay, I'll try, you'll try, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Then we'll do our mashouts. So the next thing we
have to talk about is roll twenty.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Which is, oh, we're just going to skip right over
the exorcism.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Oh shoot, I forgot about that. I didn't mean to.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Yeah, if you want to watch Russell Crowe. Russell Crowe
be a schlub an.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Actor, schlub so an actor. I was telling you before
we started recording that there's a really kind of something
I find fast about this film The Exorcism. So the
movie The Exorcism is about this actor played by Russell Crowe,

(56:13):
who is a cast in a horror movie, an exorcism
horror movie. Originally this film was called The Georgetown Project,
which is interesting. The Exorcist is set in Georgetown. It's
a neighborhood inside Washington, d C. And Russell Crowe is
playing a character named Anthony Miller. And the interesting thing

(56:37):
to me is it's directed by or partly directed by
Joshua John Miller. So you realize already the last names
are common, right, like Anthony Miller and Joshua John Miller.
Joshua John Miller's father was James Miller. James Miller played

(56:57):
the young priest in the original The Exorcist in the
nineteen seven cool yeah, so his dad was When you
hear like I need an old priest and a young priest,
he played the young priest Carrick father Carrick. Tragically, that
actor passed away like two decades ago now, but his
son is now the director of The Exorcism, and Russell

(57:21):
Crowe is playing a character who's playing it like the
character in the film is essentially playing a role that
seems to be similar to Carick from The Exorcist, and
then he's encountering these quote unquote cursed elements of this
film production. So to me, it's like what if you
made a horror movie about the making of the Exorcist,

(57:43):
except that this is clearly not a direct reference to
the Exorcist, because characters in the film mentioned the movie,
So it's not like it's not like this is actually
about the Exorcist. But similar to that, it's a cool
kind of meta inception of a thing.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
I the Exorcist was very scary. It's one of the
ones that I can handle. I might I might do
some common sense media review of The Exorcism and then
watch it. Yeah, I do like the metanis of it.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
I think that's really interesting. The fact because apparently, like
Joshua John Miller like as part of he also co
wrote the screenplay that apparently he took inspiration from stories
his dad told him about things that went wrong during
the filming of the Exorcist and then just kind of
amp that up and made it it appears to be supernatural.

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It also is interesting to me that Russell Crowe, like
the dude, is getting work with exorcisms because last year
he was in The Pope's Exorcist. So like, when I
saw that there was news about this trailer coming out,
I was thinking, didn't that movie already come out? Like,
oh no, you're thinking of the other Exorcist movie that
Russell Crowe was in.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Yeah. Yeah, I got a little confused too, but yeah,
it is. That is interesting. Thank you for sharing that
story and doing that research.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Yeah, no worries. Okay, now now we do the quick
touching on I apologize for derailing.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Oh no, no, no, I didn't mean to skip that
at all. But yeah, Roll twenty, which is a way
to play like Dungeons and Dragons and other games basically
tabletop games online with your friends, is coming to Discord,
which for me, who when I played the game on
my old computer and try to run Discord and Roll

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twenty at the same time my computer goes no stop
makes me very happy. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
Yeah, it's going to be built into the features for Discord,
which is really cool. Maybe one day I'm not making promises,
mind you. Maybe one day yours truly will even run
a game on Roll twenty and maybe we'll have a
game where listeners can join and play a session at
some point.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
That would be really cool. Yeah, that really cool. I
bet we'd have a bunch of people who would do that. Uh,
let us let us know if you're interested. Again, no promises.
It's not like you say, yeah, I want to do
this and you're in.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Yeah, I got it. There's a lot of work that
goes into me setting that up, so we'll see if
I can do it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Yeah. Next Blisscon twenty twenty four is canceled.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Blumber.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Yeah, it's sad there, it's not surprising because Blizzard's been
going through some stuff. We've talked about it before.

Speaker 2 (01:00:29):
Yeah, Microsoft acquired them and then like almost two thousand
people lost their jobs.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Yeah, but even before that they were Since the pandemic,
they've kind of been on and off again with conventioning.
So it is. It is sad, but it's not unsurprising.
But in theory they will be still doing other conventions
like games Con and showcasing their upcoming stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Oh, they'll do E three. Oh no, they won't do
E three because that's the two. Yeah. They also they
also don't have a whole lot to talk about just
right now, Like their slate is pretty clear at the moment,
So it's understandable you don't hold a big promotional event
if you've got nothing to promote.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Yeah. And then lastly, in advance of Furiosa coming to theaters,
the original three Mad Max movies are going to Max,
which the Max Max Max Max.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Yeah, so you can.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
You can if you've not watched Mad Max, you can
watch it in all of its cheesy, hoky glory.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
The first Mad Max is not, in my opinion, not
very entertaining. It's a very very low budget Australian film.
I think Road Warrior is amazing and Beyond Thunderdome is amazing,
but in all the wrong ways.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Beyond Thunderdome is like was my favorite prior to Fury
Road because.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
It's just so I think I think it was my
favorite too, Like I think Road Warrior is a better movie,
but I think I enjoyed Beyond Thunderdome except for the fact,
like the last half of the film there's some real
long stretches that are kind of boring. In Beyond Thunderdome.
The beginning, the beginning to the middle is incredible, and

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the end is incredible, but between the middle and the
end there's a section that's not good.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
It's like driving through the desert in a car with
no AC and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
No one's chasing you. You're just having to drive.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Yeah, it's desert bus the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Yeah, exactly, so, I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Guess Llenc's official recommendation is watched two and three.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Yeah, watch Road Warrior, watch Beyond Thunderdome, watch Fury Road,
and watch Fiurriosa. If you absolutely have to, you can
watch the First Man Max. I just don't think it's
I don't know that I've ever been able to sit
through it in one sitting because I just found it

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pretty dull and it was hard for me to connect
to anything that was going on on screen. I will say, however,
one of the actors who's playing one of the antagonists
in that first Mad Max film is the same actor
who plays the bad guy in Fury Road. I mean
it's the same act not the same character, but it

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is the same actor.

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
That is pretty cool. I don't know if it's worth
watching the movie. And with that we are going to
move onto our mashups, yes, which is making kind of
the idea was to make fake trailers where Deadpool was
mashed up with other stuff and I forgot to be
time hopping since he's about to be time hopping, so

(01:03:49):
I will start.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
Yeah, yeah, that's good because see you've actually got trailers
whereas I did a movie treatment. So yours are the
trailers that play in front of my movie.

Speaker 1 (01:03:59):
So you want me to do both trailers before your movie? Okay,
So the first is Deadpool Pig in the City.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Uh, I'll try so hard.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Old week, Deadpool had a farm e i e oh no.
After retiring to the country with his girl, his friends,
his taxi driver, and his faithful pig, Wade Wilson thinks
he has it all until one day his water pipe
not that kind, an actual pipe carrying water, breaks it
on his farm and he finds his farm in trouble.
Wade is just about to pull out his Merk mask

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to go to the city and acquire some money when
his pig companion steps up and says, nah, I got this. Buddy,
throws on a Deadpool mask and heads off, and what
ensues is a mad cap adventure where Dead Pork actual
character heads to the city, gets put up put up
for free by an animal friendly hotel, but gets abducted
by a creepy clown named Fugley who is fugglier than

(01:04:55):
Dead Pork's at home farm hero Dead Pork rescues some
prime it's not the human kind, delivers some babies not
the human kind, and then he and the rescued chimps
take down the creepy fugly mugger, who was secretly running
Fuggly Muggers animal smuggling, where he'd attack folks and steal
exotic pets for his acts. Upon defeating the cringey clown,
they find his secret stash of fuggly money and split it.

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Dead Pork heads home to fund his homeboy's homestead repairs,
just to find that Wade lost the farm in a
Crazy Eights game to Colossus, who happened to buy for
a visit. What happens next you'll have to watch to
find out.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Wow, I was not told there would be tongue twisters.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
The snakes. One's worse. Not with tongue twisters, It's just worse,
and I apologize and advance. Bring it on this is
the Deadpool at Society, which is Deadpool and Dead Poets
Society movie where Robin Williams is against the grain teacher
at an all boys preparatory school, teaching them to be
cool people instead of the confined through poetry boring people.

(01:05:56):
That yeah, poetry ha ha. It all starts with organ
music and a voiceover Welton Academy for Boys, the breeding
ground for the future leaders of America. A school of
conformity and tradition upheld by all the teachers except one
record scratch. As the bell rings to usher in the
first day of school, a bizarre yet dashingly handsome if

(01:06:17):
you like sun withered plums figure enters the room wearing
a stylish yet warm Chimney Chonga sweater. But despite the
looks of stranger danger from this gaggle of pupas and pinheads,
it's just me Wade Wilson. Yep, that aforementioned troublesome teacher,
and I'm about to teach these teenaged torps how to
open up that better than a pistachio on the floor
of a clogging contest. Pan out to a montage of

(01:06:39):
me Wade Wilson molding my student's pliable brains to break
the rules, think outside the box, and seize the day
better than a nineteen hundred's new Zy with the use
of poetry, rock and rollin hormones. Yep, this school's going
equal opportunity co ed awesome. Soon these rhyming rugrats will
be all standing on the desk shouting, oh Deadpool, my Deadpool.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
Foreshadowing, but what's the story without conflict? If Gail Nolan,
head but head of the school, has his way, these
boys would be stuck in a cardigan wearing sausage vest.
Not that there's anything wrong with some calbasa of cookie
cutterdom emphasis on the dumb for life, but forcing these
squares into your round hole might make that life short.
But you'll have to watch the movie to see how
I save these kids' lives, extradite them from vapid Vermont,

(01:07:18):
open their minds to a multiverse of creativity, and induct
them into my super fighting squad of James merrillesque merks
with the marks of exforcellns coming never to a theater
near you. Not kidding, you can't get anyone to fund
a Slice of Life movie anymore. Chicka CHICAA.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Oh wow, and a Ferris Bueller's Day Off reference at
the end two Koosy's reference. Yeah, well, I mean I
wasn't gonna talk about that because you know, I have
no plans to visit Santa Fe. But okay, ah, mine
is called The Deadpool Don't Die, which is the Dead
Don't Die and Deadpool. This will make no sense to

(01:07:58):
almost everyone listening this, but if you've seen The Dead
Don't Die, be prepared for hilarity. Here we go. Bill
Murray has a problem. Oh I'm sorry. His character's name
is Cliff Robertson, chief of police of the town of Centerville,
and he has a problem. His problem is, as partner
Deadpool is a wise cracking maniac who constantly breaks the

(01:08:20):
fourth wall, like at the drop of a hat, and
there's no explanation for how or why, Like how is
he aware of the fourth wall? How does he know
that he's a character in a larger story that is
literally never addressed in the movie. It just is, that's
just Deadpool. And yeah, occasionally Deadpool references songs on the

(01:08:41):
radio as being the theme song for the film, which
is really confusing to poor Cliff. But that's just one
of Cliff's problems. He's also got this issue with Tilda
Swinton being some sort of albino scottswoman samurai all like
she also, I'm sorry, she's got a character name too,
zeld Winston. Oh, and then of course they're the zombies.

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Have I mentioned the zombies. Well, there are zombies. That's honestly,
that's probably the biggest problem, or it's at least the
problem that's most likely to cause the most trouble, and
they sure do, because man, those zombies are real pain
in the butt, especially if they bite your butt. But
Cliff manages to stay unbitten for like almost the whole movie.

(01:09:25):
He does have to deal with other issues, though, like
Kluie Savini No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. The characters Mindy Morrison,
she's another police officer who sadly she won't make it
to the end of the movie. Spoilers by the way,
in case you were curious about the dead don't Die,
or another character, the racist jerk Steve Bussemi, I'm sorry,
I'm sorry. That character's name is Frank Miller, which, as

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far as I can tell, is not supposed to be
a reference to the comic book artist or anything like that.
He's this xenophobic farmer type. Or Selena Gomez. You know,
she is not singing in this movie, but she does
serve as zombie. Oh shoot, sorry spoilers again. I guess
we'll spawling the whole ding dang Dead Don't Die movie,
aren't I all right? Anyway, here's Cliff gamely going from

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place to place in town, learning about this zombie outbreak
and trying to protect residents, and meanwhile, his partner, Deadpool
just keeps spouting off meta commentary in a way that
makes you wonder exactly what kind of movie are you watching? Anyway?
I mean, is this a straight up horror comedy, you know,
akin to something like Sean of the Dead, or is

(01:10:30):
it some sort of take on filmmaking like One Cut
of the Dead? Or is it just a muddle mess
of a film that doesn't really know what it is
and so it's only kinda but not really entertaining. Yeah,
it's probably that last one, but whatever it is. Deadpool
cracks wise and makes references to illicit drugs a lot

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throughout the entire film, with Cliff frequently reminding Deadpool that
as a cop he needs to cool it with the
drug references. Ay sound just like Fige, says Deadpool, and
Cliff wonders who that is, because we have not yet
established what examples of mainstream media are actually a thing
in our fictional world that we are watching, and which

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ones are not a thing there. So the movie keeps
going with zombies, handily whittling down the cast, which also
includes other cool folks like Tom Waits and Carol Kane
and Iggy Pop and Rosie Perez and Riza and all
of this is true and you can look it up
if you like. Anyway, Cliff comes to the realization that

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he has absolutely no control over the situation. Maybe that's
the lesson. Maybe we're meant to learn that sometimes things
are just outside of our control, no matter how much
we want to help. But if that is the lesson,
then what the heck do we do with it? I mean,
that's hardly useful information. I guess you could just say, well,
this is beyond my control, so I might as well
walk into that crowd of zombies. But that hardly seems helpful.

(01:11:57):
It seems pretty fatalistic if you ask me. Maybe we
should all be like Tilda Swinton and grab a katana
and make zombie shish kebobs until a spaceship comes down
to beams us home. And yeah, I'm not making that
part up either. That happens in the movie. But I
told you this is a weird movie, and I'm not
really sure what I'm supposed to take from it. But

(01:12:18):
at least there's Deadpool, reliable, dependable Deadpool who will keep
making better references in jokes designed to shock you. Sure
the story might not make a lick of sense. Sure
might not ever learn a single other character's name without
having to actively look at IMDb. Sure I might not

(01:12:39):
even be able to tell someone what kind of movie
this is. But I know that Deadpool will be with
me the whole way, making irreverent comments about the film studio,
the script, the actors, the special effects, and anything else
that pulls me out of the story. Hey, considering the story,
maybe Deadpool's just doing me a favor the end, I

(01:13:02):
like it. Can you tell that I wasn't crazy about
the Dead Don't Die?

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Yeah, which is unfortunate because it seemed so promising at first,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
I mean, it's so for those who haven't seen it.
Adam Driver is the actual actor who plays the partner
of Bill Murray's character It's not Dead Bull spoiler alert.
But Adam Driver throughout the movie just occasionally makes these
very small but fourth wall breaking comments, and at first

(01:13:33):
it's just like, well, that was weird, and as it
goes on, you're like, Okay, this is really weird. Like
he's starting to make reference to things like script changes
and stuff which no one else in the movie does.
So you're like, why does this character have awareness that
he's a character in a movie and no one else does,
or if you want to go further meta, why is

(01:13:55):
the movie allowing this actor to acknowledge the fact that
he's an actor in a film as opposed to a
character in a world. And there's never an answer. There's
never an answer to it. And I'm like, I don't
mind you taking risky choices, but I would like to
know the reasoning behind it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think my brain just shut off.
But that's okay because we're at the end of the episode. Yes,
if you have thoughts on Jonathan's not doing it, how
to contact us this week because we did both a

(01:14:37):
discussion topic and some mashups. But if you have thoughts
on what we talked about or ideas, or you want
to be like run a Roll twenty game, or you know,
I wish you did this Deadpool trailer mash up fake
trailer thing. Let us know. You can reach out to
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breaking that fourth wall cast in and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
I have been Jonathan. I never met a commentary. I
didn't like Strickland.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
That's not true.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
No, it's not, but it was funny.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
It was fun.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
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