July 18, 2014 • 36 mins
Did Nazis really have a department for paranormal investigations?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
From UFOs two, ghosts and government cover ups. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello, everyone,
welcome back. My name is Matt and I'm Ben and
I just got back from a vacation. Is that what
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they call those things where you're gone for a week?
It was essentially yes, Oh man, it was crazy. It
was the best thing I've done in a long time,
besides the show, which you know is the best thing
I've got going for me. I don't know about you.
Oh yeah, I got nothing going on, okay, zero except
for this. Yeah, well and my beautiful life. Yes that's
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another thing. Sorry, ladies. Oh yeah, Diana is definitely the
business suit. Um yeah, what did you do on your vacation?
I was on a ship and it was incredible. It's
the first time I've been in the water to the
point where I can see no land around me whatsoever,
on the top of a ship. It was incredible, open ocean. Huh. Yeah,
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it gives you. It gave me lots of creative ideas
just about the earth in that old saying, as above
so below, that feeling that you get when you see
the horizon line, just water beneath you and just air
above you. Pretty awesome as above so below. It's funny
that you say that, because that's a little bit of cultish,
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isn't it. It's a little bit of cultish. And what
were we talking about this week? Some group of people
that are really well known. It was a political movement.
And I can't put my finger on it because when
you said some group of people that were really well known,
my first guest was kiss. They are some of the
most well known people in the world. That's true, that
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is true. But these guys had some kind of symbol. Oh, yeah,
that's right. Nazis. Oh and magic, Oh, Nazis. That was
way off. Well. Both groups, in my defense, have a
love of uniforms. That's true. Sorry, no offense, kiss, a
little less face paint in the Nazis. Yeah, arguably that's right.
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Ladies and gentlemen. Matt and I are here today as
always with our super producer Noel Brown. Uh. Today's question,
Matt is, did the Nationalist Socialist Party or Nazis really
try to practice magic? Yes, they tried. They tried to
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practice magic. They really did. They had a lot of
interest in the occult. Okay, all right, Uh well that's
our podcast, ladies, and right, and that's it. So I
hope you guys enjoyed it to find us on Facebook.
Oh no, we got more. Oh yeah, we've got We've
got a little more, right, I mean, because this is
something that's such a popular idea, right because we hear
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about it all the time, and you know, we can
we can talk about some examples of that, but it's
important for us to remember that when we say the
Nazis really did try to practice magic or have a
cult interest, we're talking about members of the Nazi Party,
not necessarily everybody, not not boots on the ground guys,
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perhaps a few of them, but we cannot make a
huge generalization like that. They're key members, yeah, yeah, who
are interested in the occult. Yeah, we can see this
the fascination in culture, like new culture about Nazis. If
you look at video games Wolfenstein series, they called Duty
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series all the yeah, the zombies, Nazi zombies all over
the place. My buddy Charlie loves that. Um oh, even
movies you mentioned Dead Snow and Dead Snow. There's the
one about the Mars or something, iron Sky, Iron Sky
there they have a moon base. Uh yeah, and uh,
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that's that's weird because in that idea, in that film,
it talks about another prevalent theory about Nazis, which is
the discovery of some alternative form of energy, which you
and I have looked at a lot. We uh we
found that these are not they're not mutually exclusive. The
idea of the occult and magic and this form of
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energy they seem to be connected. Yeah, and and that's
because of sorry man, that has to do with this
thing called the fuel or tool society or the real
society as well. Yeah, they were. This is this is
a weird thing that you and I discovered as well.
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Let's be honest, Matt. When we do our show stuff,
they don't want you to know. There are certain groups
or individuals that will always have thousands of at times
contradictory theories surrounding them. You know, they're are international bankers,
and news flash, a few of those theories are distressingly,
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indisturbingly true. Yes, there are groups that are amorphous and
aren't necessarily a Certain people like the New World Order
or the even the Illuminati, which are a lot of
different people are associated with that term. And then you've
got groups like the Nazis, right, Yeah, the Nazis are
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group that we continually returned to. We've done Nazis and UFOs.
We've looked at some questions about whether or not Hitler
actually died when he supposedly died, which is still an
interesting story, and that one's up in the air for
me still. Yeah, we're gonna have to look into that one,
and then the rat lines and all this other stuff.
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But one thing that we continually returned to, as we're saying,
it's the Nazis. And here's something interesting we found while
we were working on our series this week. Uh first
we had our classic video remixed by Matt, which is
did Nazis Practice Magic? And we talked about a lot
of this stuff, and we found out while we're doing
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this that occult societies and secret societies were crazy common
at the time, you know, the inter war period between
World War One world War two in Germany and the
the Rule or to Society, as we talked about, was
one of the big ones that started out as the
study group for Germanic antiquity, and this was an occult
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society and it was also something called a Wokish group
and that's with a V but pronounced the German way, right,
And you might be asking yourself what is wish. It's
a movement in Germany that focused on folklore, and you
can think of it kind of as a way of
romanticizing and idealizing the this image of the German people
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that they had, uh yeah, pristine image, almost an iconic
image of the people. Yeah, that's bucolic, right. And this
is an important thing because in the modern age, it's
easy for us to think that Adolph Hitler just decided
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to have crazy racial beliefs or or crazy nationalist beliefs
or whatever you want to call them. However, the fact
of the matter is that these were fairly common in
not just Germany but in Europe for most of the time,
and some of those ideas, you know, have a resurgence
in Europe today. So this ethno nationalistic belief says that
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there is an inherent quality in someone's lineage that determines
your behavioral status, or your personality or your abilities. So
in some ways this is similar to other belief systems
like those in East Asia. Here's looking at you, North Korea.
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Because I've read the Cleanest Race based on some I
I read way too much about North Korea, so there
is still the same this same belief in what would
ultimately be called ideas of racial purity. What Is the
Cleanest Race is a book by a scholar on North
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Korea that describes the ultimate aim of propaganda, or the
narrative created by the North Korean government, which depicts the
people of North Korea as a pure, innocent, vulnerable people
who are the cleanest and the best people in out
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of the world, out of the world, who are somehow
oppressed the outside world and must be protected from that world,
and that the narrative of that propaganda is surely changing.
This was a fairly recently written book, but it's surely
changed gene as more North Korean citizens gain access to
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outside information crap. So so let's yes, that's awesome. I'm
really glad you told me that, because I would have
no idea, and I think our listeners would. Uh. I
think we all are happy that you told us what
that was. So anyway, back to the Toul Society or
the tool, I'm just gonna say foul because that's what
I've said. So apologies to anybody else listening that wants
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to correct me. Originally it was a cover name for
an offshoot of a different secret society that I'm going
to paraphrase as the German Order of the Holy Grail,
and the Thule Society became official in nineteen eighteen, and
you had to sign a document swearing to uphold racial purity,
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all right, So you had to be so Ariyan, so
so very Arian, so Arian, and continue to be Arian
throughout your days. No, Roma can't marry into anyone who
is I don't know what, who is from Mongolia or
God forbid, Jewish or anything like that. And again this
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was this was a fairly common idea. It wasn't something
that sounded crazy to the average person in Germany at
the time. The name Thul or too Lee, and I'll
say Thuel as well, comes from a mystical land called Ultima.
According to these Nazi mystics, this was the capital of
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an ancient place called Hyperborea, which they believed lay somewhere
in the north between Greenland and Iceland. And this was
the supposed true home of the original founders of civilization. Again,
according to this ideology, the Arians. And before we go
on that, I do want to take a moment to
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thank a listener on YouTube who said that we we
were making some assumptions by starting out from a place
where he said the occult or the areas, and this
law civilization idea is not real. It is possible because
you know, as you and I found out when we're
doing our episodes on lost cities, people just lose entire
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cities and civilizations. It's possible. I guess we have to
keep an open mind about it. It's just improbable, that's all. Well,
we know, yeah, that's a good way to say. We
know that law civilizations have occurred, do occur, will occur.
We may very well be living in a future lost civilization, right,
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But the question is is their version of a civilization
actual low civilization. So anyway, like you said, they identified
a lot of things. They connected quite a few things,
and this Hyperborea that they believed in, this Ultima Thule,
ultimate tool a, this was maybe known by some other names. Yeah. There,
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you can look to Atlantis as the same kind of place,
or even a possible synonym for how do you say Hyperborea? Yeah,
Hyperborea and Lamria. Yeah, they're all kinds of names for
the same kind of mystical place. Of origin, and this
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society pre dates what would later become known as the
Nazi Party. Uh, but they had members of the Nazi
Party at their shin digs and Sware's right. Yeah, some
guests of the Tool Society included Nazi officials like Rudolf
Hess you're looking at Dietrich air Heart, but interestingly enough,
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not Adolf Hitler. Okay. It should also be known that
the Tools Society officially disbanded in nineteen twenty, at least
officially officially. Yeah. One fun fact, Ben, is that the
designer of the original swastika that the Nazis used wasn't
at a Tool member, and his name was Friedrich Krone. Okay,
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So that's pretty interesting because we do we know that
the swastika dates back predates the founding of the Nazi Party.
And one interesting story that I read about why the
swastika was chosen is because in our video we talk
about how the Toule Society and and some of these
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other groups were inspired by the guy who discovered Troy.
A German archaeologist to rediscovered Troy in eighteen seventy and
he allegedly found some swastikas there. It's a very old,
ancient symbol. And it's also you know, Native Americans have
used the swast to get India has used it their
people in into and not the whole country. But to
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a big question with this organization, did they do actual
occult stuff? Yes? Again? Yes, Oh, okay, all right, there's
no sort of there there's again, We're done so all right. No. No,
they would at least get together to celebrate pagan holidays
like Solstice and so on. They'd also talk philosophies based
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on astrology and interpretations of Freemasonry of all things. Okay,
all right, I see, and maybe we can do a
Freemasonry podcast one day. We've probably had some Freemasons listening in.
We need to get somebody in this room, sit in
this chair and actually talk to us. Maybe we can
garble their voice. I don't know who will. Yeah, let's
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get a guest. Guys, let us know in our email
who we should have as a guest. Let us know
on Twitter or Facebook. Here's the next thing. We're talking
about organizations in the Nazi Party or around that time
that participate in occult things. One of my favorite these
organizations met what you mentioned earlier is the real Society
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or should we say the alleged real society? So what's
that and why do we have to say the alleged
real society? We have to say alleged because no one
has officially proven that real society actually existed. There are
numerous reports by skeptics and believers alike that there was
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some kind of secret society operating in Germany that sought
to discover some kind of energy that was not known
at the time, some new form of energy or rediscovered
form of it. Yes, exactly. And you can check out
our Nazi I think we haven't published on our new site. Yeah,
we do on the new YouTube. Check it out. It's
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about Nazi UFOs and it's interesting. Yeah, and it's also
on our website stuff. Then what you know dot com
if you're if you're the kind of person who doesn't
want to be on YouTube since they made the g
plus move, you know, so we understand. Yeah, one Gmail
to rule them all and in the darkness behind them, right, Yeah,
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And and all of this is based on a novel,
not all of it, but a lot of it is
based on this novel Real the Power of the Coming Race,
and that's the idea of that's why they think the
name of real society was Okay, it's It's a book
from eighteen seventy one. It was a novel by Edward
Butler Lytton or Litton, and it was originally printed as
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The Coming Race, and many believed it's an account from
a superior subterranean master race Ben and the energy form
that they're talking about is in fact called real, at
least according to this novel. Now here's where I will
be a little bit skeptical. So Edward Bower Litton his
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novel there is fiction. It's trans fiction. He said it
was fiction. He said it was fiction. I'm repeating that. Uh.
He also, and this is just a neat little historical
side note here, he also, I believe is the winner
for the worst opening sentence of a novel in English.
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It wasn't this novel. It's different and it's a it's
a weird description. We'll you'll have to check it out,
or maybe we can bring it to a link on
our website. But yes, so this name, according to the stories,
inspired this society. But at this point there's no solid
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historical evidence for the existence of such a society, although
there is some pretty compelling stuff about Nazi experimentation of
other forms of energy. Right, I would just like to
say that to me, of real society, if it did exist,
would be kind of like a fandom community. Yeah, for
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this novel. You know what, that's a really good point.
And how weird is that if that truly did inspire
some of these horrifying things and horrifying practices, it's pretty
messed up. That is strange. Fiction does have such a power,
does That's a really good point. Men, Sorry, I didn't
mean yeah, I'm sorry, I started zoning out. You guys. Sometimes, uh,
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sometimes one of us will make a point that seems
phenomenally deep to the other person, and we'll just sort
of tune out and think about that one other thing.
Ben really fast. There's another popular book called The Morning
of the Magicians, and this is the one that made
people think that the real society was real. Right, Yeah,
This is from nineteen sixty and it suggested that a
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secret quote real society existed in pre Nazi Berlin. However, again,
there's no, absolutely no historical evidence that that society existed.
He see me getting excited across the table here, right, Yeah,
it's not just the coffee. I'm thrilled to mention one
of the biggest groups that does have historical evidence behind it,
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and that is and an alb Yes, yes, it is
one of the most fun things to say. It is.
We have probably alienated some of our co workers because
Matt and I sit across from each other and there's
a wall that divides us. So we will will stand
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up and talk over that wall or sometimes just say
things and not know if the other persons on headphones.
It's true, that's true. And when we this week, when
we've been hopping up and going, oh Ben, did just
see about and nab, everyone just gets a little uncomfortable,
including ourselves, right yeah, because we continue talking in the
in our horrible voices about that. But this is the
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real Nazi Magic Department, and it all depends on a
guy that you probably remember from some of our earlier
works on this, a fellow named Heinrich Himmler. Yeah, he
was born in nineteen hundred, on a fun year to
be born in He developed the s S. That's im.
He developed the S S and he oversaw a lot
of the work of the Annan Arab. He also built
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extermination camps and he directed the course. Unfortunately, of the Holocaust. Right,
it's important, vital even for us to remember that despite
how some of this might sound to the very skeptical right,
to the people who think magic is silly or absurd,
that this was not just some silly, absurd man. He
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was doing things that were on a large scale and horrific.
He was an an intensely serious dude that did some
horrible things. And he turned the SS into a racially
based secret society. And he even used pagan rituals with
this thing. Yeah, he sought to supplant Christianity as a
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practice amongst s S officers, which we talked about a
little bit in one of our videos, by taking out
Christian holidays, you know, Easter, Christmas, all that stuff, which
is you know, I'm just gonna say it, which is
already based on pre existing pagan holidays. That's just true.
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And uh, well he even replaced a lot of the
symbols using rooms in ancient rooms. Um, even Odin is
m Yeah, he wanted to get people back into worshiping Odin.
Oh that's heavy. Yeah, And uh, this this all leads
to a very strange situation. Of course, if you're one
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of the officers who has to do this and tell
your kids, Hey, guys, we're just doing Soulstice now. Yeah,
it's their kids, no Christmas for you. Yeah, it's a
It's very It must have been a very weird household
conversation for a lot of those people. So, Matt, why
and when did he found the n and AP? He
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founded the NNP in nineteen thirty five, Why you asked, Oh,
why did he do that? He did it to discover
or really to create a new mythology, a new history
and a folklore of Germany. He he really wanted to
reflect the wolkesh attitudes of the nationalist society. I see
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a politically correct version of history as they saw it. Yeah,
that was it would end up being horrifying. So uh,
Annell comes from a pretty obscure German word. Um it
means something inherited from forefathers. And the official mission of
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this of this big department is to unearth new evidence
of accomplishments and deeds of ancestors of the Germanic people
using here's the tricky part science, Yeah, exact scientific method.
So in reality, the nat was in the business of
myth making, at least that's what we've found. Its prominent
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researchers devoted themselves to changing the truth, distorting the truth,
and putting out these carefully tailored pieces of evidence that
would support the ideas of mine fura of Adolf Hitler,
and he believed that only the Arians, this fictional Nordic
race of the tall, flaxen haired men and women blonde
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uh from northern Europe, that they were possessed with the
genius required to create civilization. Only those people, and most
modern Germans, he claimed, were descended from these ancient Arians.
Now this is interesting because you always here in the
United States, at least various members of Congress saying your
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politicize in the issue or your polittified lamely astro, which
are the only two congressional voices I can do. Guess
who they are, let us know right and let us
know they're not in the same party. But the point
is that this is a very dangerous thing for science
in general when someone needs a politically expedient answer, because
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it usually means something that supports their political aims. So
no one is really going update off Hitler and saying, well,
we think that civilization was probably not started by these
people that just decided was started by right, But they
can't do that and expect to keep their job at
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the very least. And again, as we have said, it
is completely possible that entire civilizations have been lost to history.
We just don't have proof that the beliefs that these
people had were in any way true. So science had
failed forever too uncover proof of this master race starting
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civilization in some Promethean way um and being simally responsible
for all human culture. So the idea was to Heinrich
Himler that we can discover this stuff by I don't know,
creating it, guiding it, molding it a little bit. So
that's why they, uh, the n and AMP researched historical
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archaeological evidence of this race that up to now did
not have much proof of its existence. Right and Himler
essentially created the most well funded I like, how you
put this most well funded folklore department in history billions.
You know, I love folklore, Matt, I love that stuff,
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and folklore classes with some of my favorite classes in
in the history of my education. But folklore isn't you know,
it's not like engineering, it's a it's not a very
well moneyed pursuit. So this became a million deutsche mark
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industry for the Germany at the time, And we have
some list of things that they research, just to give
you a just to give you a bit of a
sense of the depth and breadth of this. Yes, and
we're going to read these in English correct. Yeah. Yeah,
I'm not going to tackle that German. I've already accidentally
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been offensive enough. Well, let's just go down the list, then,
shall we. Sure, we've first got Indo Germanic Aryan language
and cultural studies, and then we also have Germanic cultural
studies and landscape science. We've got Indo Germanic faith history,
Indogermanic historical jurisprudence. We've got Indo Germanic and German music,
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and then Germanic German folklore, ethnic research and folklore, folk tales,
fairy tales and myths and even runs, alphabets and symbols.
And that all goes under one branch of the in
an arab and that branch was social science. But there
was also the natural science branch. And here's where we
find hard evidence of Nazi occult practices. Yeah, this is
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where you get into descriptive and applied natural history. Yeah,
and and listen, because these start out a little bit innocuous,
but you'll see what we're talking about soon. They also
did biology, entomology, astronomy, horse breeding, botany, plant genetics, spelology,
cave explorations, scientific history that's kind of vague. Here we go,
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applied geology, geochronology, nuclear physics, folk medicine, osteology, survey of
the so called occult sciences. But yeah, and they had
so called in there to make it seem a little
bit more level headed than it was. But they really
did travel to Finland and meet people they thought were witches,
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and they really did enlist psychic experiments. And the last
one that we we would be remiss if we didn't
mention was military scientific research. This became the Charnel House.
This is a household horrors, where they started collecting skeletons
of people they had killed doing barometric pressure tests. And
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that was maybe one of the most frightening things is
that was one small part of this giant institution where
you know, in in another part of Germany people are
researching horse breeding and man and it's gosh, this is
just something I wanted to bring up. We you mentioned
Indiana Jones in our flog and you know, indeed had
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to deal with Nazis several times. Yeah, he kept running
into him. Well, it's interesting to note that these quote
Nazi archaeologists end quote were the basis for the for
India running any of these people, because there really were
expeditions that the Nazis took to discover all kinds of antiquities,
um antiques and law civilizations. Oh and now we're into
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our here's where it gets crazy mood, alright, because there's
a lot of stuff that we actually don't know and
may never know about Zan and Ebb and about the
actions or findings of the Nazi archaeologists. We know that
they we we know that there were two and perhaps
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contradictory kind of purposes. We know that one they were
building mythology or propaganda and they were aware of this
and they were doing it purposefully. And then we know,
on the other hand, they really did believe in some
of these things, that really did believe there was a
holy grail, they could find a spear of destiny, stuff
like that. And if that's true, then we have to
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ask ourselves, did they find anything? Then how would we know? Right?
And then we go into other stuff like do we
know what actual magic the Nazis practice, because a lot
of times you do that kind of stuff in a
dark hole somewhere with torches and nobody can see you,
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and you don't really write down notes. Yeah, a cult
means hidden. And then there's the idea of the black sun.
What is the relationship between this stuff, the science is magic,
this symbolism. What about the reports that some concentration camp
survivors had of being forced to work underground your V
two rocket assemblies? You know? What about the reports of
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the guys and operations Epsilon where they were recorded for
a while at the farmhouse. Yeah, in that farmhouse, and
they talked about some stuff which makes us wonder is
was it just like a handy code? A lot of
One of my favorite quotes from that, and I'm not
gonna have the exact quote, but when one of the
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guys remarked, do you think they have microphones in here?
You know they're listening to us, And the other guy said, well, no,
they don't. They don't know all the Stazi techniques to
come on as Americans. And there for now, we're going
to have to cut it short. There's a lot of
stuff we didn't get to. But the rest maybe a
story for another day. Please check out our stuff about
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Nazi magic if you haven't yet, and let us know
what else we should look at. Again. There's a great
book on this, a very controversial book called The Brotherhood
of the Bell, which goes into some of the ideas
about real and there really is a flooded underground or
a flooded mine, right, Matt, that no one's had access
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to for a while, and no one knows what's in there.
So this does end on a little bit of a mystery.
And that's the best part about all of this. It's
a mystery, but it's food. It's so much food for thought,
and that's why I love these topics. And I don't know,
every once in a while we get comments on our
YouTube page, hey where are you covering Nazis? Uh? The
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Nazis come on and again, like we said at the top,
they're covered a lot in this subject area. But the
that fascination with the unknown is always going to be
with this group. And I think that's why we're gonna
go back and we're this is not the end for
Nazis for us Ben in about a year, I'm sure
we'll be back in Nazi territory. One other thing, just
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because we're talking about magic, I want to mention, and
I don't usually plug other podcasts, but and I know
everybody knows about the WTF pod, but Mark Marrin had
the amazing Jonathan on his show. Do you remember the
amazing Jonathan from TV? Uh? Fairly famous magician back in
the little nineties eight late eighties nineties. I remember watching
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on TV a lot. Anyway, it's a fascinating interview that's
super heavy and I would not expect it. I didn't
expect it. Anyway. You should check that out. Yes, And
while you're checking stuff out on the internet, we want
you guys to know you are welcome, but not obligated
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is gonna kill us too much over our time. Um
My thought maybe we could just read some tweets. All right, yeah, alright,
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I would like to thank Freaky Fire. By the way,
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Oh yeah, that's true. I just saw that. Uh. Heather
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you guys think is up with the hell mouth hole
in Yamal, Siberia? Y a m a l um. We're
digging into this, but we wanted to let you guys
know too, so you don't have to wait for us
to tell you. We want to hear more about what
you think. Is that the old giant hole or the
new sinkhole slash whatever hole that just appeared in Siberia.
(34:10):
I think it's the one that just appeared. Uh. And
then we had somebody say that we should sell T shirts.
Rachel said, you guys should sell T shirts with Here's
where it gets crazy on them. So we retweeted and
asked if people would and we had some people say, uh, yeah,
take a try it out, We'll buy one. And then
we had uh, we had Victor say that we should
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talk more about sleeper agents. What do you think about that?
Most definitely, um. And then we've got something that we'll
go ahead and retweet right now, which is um. Our friend,
uh Bart and I hope I'm pronouncing your name correctly,
said they were found ten thousand year old rock paintings
depicting Aliens and UFOs found in Chittascara, India, and that's
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reported by the Times of India. So we're gonna to
go ahead and retweet that right now. And let's see.
I think that's enough now because we ended with a retweet,
right Uh, So we're gonna get out of here. I
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learn the stuff they don't want you to now. Hello, everyone,
welcome back. My name is Matt and I'm Ben and
I just got back from a vacation. Is that what
(00:25):
they call those things where you're gone for a week?
It was essentially yes, Oh man, it was crazy. It
was the best thing I've done in a long time,
besides the show, which you know is the best thing
I've got going for me. I don't know about you.
Oh yeah, I got nothing going on, okay, zero except
for this. Yeah, well and my beautiful life. Yes that's
(00:46):
another thing. Sorry, ladies. Oh yeah, Diana is definitely the
business suit. Um yeah, what did you do on your vacation?
I was on a ship and it was incredible. It's
the first time I've been in the water to the
point where I can see no land around me whatsoever,
on the top of a ship. It was incredible, open ocean. Huh. Yeah,
(01:07):
it gives you. It gave me lots of creative ideas
just about the earth in that old saying, as above
so below, that feeling that you get when you see
the horizon line, just water beneath you and just air
above you. Pretty awesome as above so below. It's funny
that you say that, because that's a little bit of cultish,
(01:30):
isn't it. It's a little bit of cultish. And what
were we talking about this week? Some group of people
that are really well known. It was a political movement.
And I can't put my finger on it because when
you said some group of people that were really well known,
my first guest was kiss. They are some of the
most well known people in the world. That's true, that
(01:53):
is true. But these guys had some kind of symbol. Oh, yeah,
that's right. Nazis. Oh and magic, Oh, Nazis. That was
way off. Well. Both groups, in my defense, have a
love of uniforms. That's true. Sorry, no offense, kiss, a
little less face paint in the Nazis. Yeah, arguably that's right.
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Ladies and gentlemen. Matt and I are here today as
always with our super producer Noel Brown. Uh. Today's question,
Matt is, did the Nationalist Socialist Party or Nazis really
try to practice magic? Yes, they tried. They tried to
(02:34):
practice magic. They really did. They had a lot of
interest in the occult. Okay, all right, Uh well that's
our podcast, ladies, and right, and that's it. So I
hope you guys enjoyed it to find us on Facebook.
Oh no, we got more. Oh yeah, we've got We've
got a little more, right, I mean, because this is
something that's such a popular idea, right because we hear
(02:57):
about it all the time, and you know, we can
we can talk about some examples of that, but it's
important for us to remember that when we say the
Nazis really did try to practice magic or have a
cult interest, we're talking about members of the Nazi Party,
not necessarily everybody, not not boots on the ground guys,
(03:18):
perhaps a few of them, but we cannot make a
huge generalization like that. They're key members, yeah, yeah, who
are interested in the occult. Yeah, we can see this
the fascination in culture, like new culture about Nazis. If
you look at video games Wolfenstein series, they called Duty
(03:38):
series all the yeah, the zombies, Nazi zombies all over
the place. My buddy Charlie loves that. Um oh, even
movies you mentioned Dead Snow and Dead Snow. There's the
one about the Mars or something, iron Sky, Iron Sky
there they have a moon base. Uh yeah, and uh,
(03:59):
that's that's weird because in that idea, in that film,
it talks about another prevalent theory about Nazis, which is
the discovery of some alternative form of energy, which you
and I have looked at a lot. We uh we
found that these are not they're not mutually exclusive. The
idea of the occult and magic and this form of
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energy they seem to be connected. Yeah, and and that's
because of sorry man, that has to do with this
thing called the fuel or tool society or the real
society as well. Yeah, they were. This is this is
a weird thing that you and I discovered as well.
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Let's be honest, Matt. When we do our show stuff,
they don't want you to know. There are certain groups
or individuals that will always have thousands of at times
contradictory theories surrounding them. You know, they're are international bankers,
and news flash, a few of those theories are distressingly,
(05:06):
indisturbingly true. Yes, there are groups that are amorphous and
aren't necessarily a Certain people like the New World Order
or the even the Illuminati, which are a lot of
different people are associated with that term. And then you've
got groups like the Nazis, right, Yeah, the Nazis are
(05:26):
group that we continually returned to. We've done Nazis and UFOs.
We've looked at some questions about whether or not Hitler
actually died when he supposedly died, which is still an
interesting story, and that one's up in the air for
me still. Yeah, we're gonna have to look into that one,
and then the rat lines and all this other stuff.
(05:47):
But one thing that we continually returned to, as we're saying,
it's the Nazis. And here's something interesting we found while
we were working on our series this week. Uh first
we had our classic video remixed by Matt, which is
did Nazis Practice Magic? And we talked about a lot
of this stuff, and we found out while we're doing
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this that occult societies and secret societies were crazy common
at the time, you know, the inter war period between
World War One world War two in Germany and the
the Rule or to Society, as we talked about, was
one of the big ones that started out as the
study group for Germanic antiquity, and this was an occult
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society and it was also something called a Wokish group
and that's with a V but pronounced the German way, right,
And you might be asking yourself what is wish. It's
a movement in Germany that focused on folklore, and you
can think of it kind of as a way of
romanticizing and idealizing the this image of the German people
(06:54):
that they had, uh yeah, pristine image, almost an iconic
image of the people. Yeah, that's bucolic, right. And this
is an important thing because in the modern age, it's
easy for us to think that Adolph Hitler just decided
(07:14):
to have crazy racial beliefs or or crazy nationalist beliefs
or whatever you want to call them. However, the fact
of the matter is that these were fairly common in
not just Germany but in Europe for most of the time,
and some of those ideas, you know, have a resurgence
in Europe today. So this ethno nationalistic belief says that
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there is an inherent quality in someone's lineage that determines
your behavioral status, or your personality or your abilities. So
in some ways this is similar to other belief systems
like those in East Asia. Here's looking at you, North Korea.
(08:00):
Because I've read the Cleanest Race based on some I
I read way too much about North Korea, so there
is still the same this same belief in what would
ultimately be called ideas of racial purity. What Is the
Cleanest Race is a book by a scholar on North
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Korea that describes the ultimate aim of propaganda, or the
narrative created by the North Korean government, which depicts the
people of North Korea as a pure, innocent, vulnerable people
who are the cleanest and the best people in out
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of the world, out of the world, who are somehow
oppressed the outside world and must be protected from that world,
and that the narrative of that propaganda is surely changing.
This was a fairly recently written book, but it's surely
changed gene as more North Korean citizens gain access to
(09:04):
outside information crap. So so let's yes, that's awesome. I'm
really glad you told me that, because I would have
no idea, and I think our listeners would. Uh. I
think we all are happy that you told us what
that was. So anyway, back to the Toul Society or
the tool, I'm just gonna say foul because that's what
I've said. So apologies to anybody else listening that wants
(09:24):
to correct me. Originally it was a cover name for
an offshoot of a different secret society that I'm going
to paraphrase as the German Order of the Holy Grail,
and the Thule Society became official in nineteen eighteen, and
you had to sign a document swearing to uphold racial purity,
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all right, So you had to be so Ariyan, so
so very Arian, so Arian, and continue to be Arian
throughout your days. No, Roma can't marry into anyone who
is I don't know what, who is from Mongolia or
God forbid, Jewish or anything like that. And again this
(10:06):
was this was a fairly common idea. It wasn't something
that sounded crazy to the average person in Germany at
the time. The name Thul or too Lee, and I'll
say Thuel as well, comes from a mystical land called Ultima.
According to these Nazi mystics, this was the capital of
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an ancient place called Hyperborea, which they believed lay somewhere
in the north between Greenland and Iceland. And this was
the supposed true home of the original founders of civilization. Again,
according to this ideology, the Arians. And before we go
on that, I do want to take a moment to
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thank a listener on YouTube who said that we we
were making some assumptions by starting out from a place
where he said the occult or the areas, and this
law civilization idea is not real. It is possible because
you know, as you and I found out when we're
doing our episodes on lost cities, people just lose entire
(11:13):
cities and civilizations. It's possible. I guess we have to
keep an open mind about it. It's just improbable, that's all. Well,
we know, yeah, that's a good way to say. We
know that law civilizations have occurred, do occur, will occur.
We may very well be living in a future lost civilization, right,
(11:36):
But the question is is their version of a civilization
actual low civilization. So anyway, like you said, they identified
a lot of things. They connected quite a few things,
and this Hyperborea that they believed in, this Ultima Thule,
ultimate tool a, this was maybe known by some other names. Yeah. There,
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you can look to Atlantis as the same kind of place,
or even a possible synonym for how do you say Hyperborea? Yeah,
Hyperborea and Lamria. Yeah, they're all kinds of names for
the same kind of mystical place. Of origin, and this
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society pre dates what would later become known as the
Nazi Party. Uh, but they had members of the Nazi
Party at their shin digs and Sware's right. Yeah, some
guests of the Tool Society included Nazi officials like Rudolf
Hess you're looking at Dietrich air Heart, but interestingly enough,
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not Adolf Hitler. Okay. It should also be known that
the Tools Society officially disbanded in nineteen twenty, at least
officially officially. Yeah. One fun fact, Ben, is that the
designer of the original swastika that the Nazis used wasn't
at a Tool member, and his name was Friedrich Krone. Okay,
(13:05):
So that's pretty interesting because we do we know that
the swastika dates back predates the founding of the Nazi Party.
And one interesting story that I read about why the
swastika was chosen is because in our video we talk
about how the Toule Society and and some of these
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other groups were inspired by the guy who discovered Troy.
A German archaeologist to rediscovered Troy in eighteen seventy and
he allegedly found some swastikas there. It's a very old,
ancient symbol. And it's also you know, Native Americans have
used the swast to get India has used it their
people in into and not the whole country. But to
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a big question with this organization, did they do actual
occult stuff? Yes? Again? Yes, Oh, okay, all right, there's
no sort of there there's again, We're done so all right. No. No,
they would at least get together to celebrate pagan holidays
like Solstice and so on. They'd also talk philosophies based
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on astrology and interpretations of Freemasonry of all things. Okay,
all right, I see, and maybe we can do a
Freemasonry podcast one day. We've probably had some Freemasons listening in.
We need to get somebody in this room, sit in
this chair and actually talk to us. Maybe we can
garble their voice. I don't know who will. Yeah, let's
(14:36):
get a guest. Guys, let us know in our email
who we should have as a guest. Let us know
on Twitter or Facebook. Here's the next thing. We're talking
about organizations in the Nazi Party or around that time
that participate in occult things. One of my favorite these
organizations met what you mentioned earlier is the real Society
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or should we say the alleged real society? So what's
that and why do we have to say the alleged
real society? We have to say alleged because no one
has officially proven that real society actually existed. There are
numerous reports by skeptics and believers alike that there was
(15:20):
some kind of secret society operating in Germany that sought
to discover some kind of energy that was not known
at the time, some new form of energy or rediscovered
form of it. Yes, exactly. And you can check out
our Nazi I think we haven't published on our new site. Yeah,
we do on the new YouTube. Check it out. It's
(15:41):
about Nazi UFOs and it's interesting. Yeah, and it's also
on our website stuff. Then what you know dot com
if you're if you're the kind of person who doesn't
want to be on YouTube since they made the g
plus move, you know, so we understand. Yeah, one Gmail
to rule them all and in the darkness behind them, right, Yeah,
(16:05):
And and all of this is based on a novel,
not all of it, but a lot of it is
based on this novel Real the Power of the Coming Race,
and that's the idea of that's why they think the
name of real society was Okay, it's It's a book
from eighteen seventy one. It was a novel by Edward
Butler Lytton or Litton, and it was originally printed as
(16:27):
The Coming Race, and many believed it's an account from
a superior subterranean master race Ben and the energy form
that they're talking about is in fact called real, at
least according to this novel. Now here's where I will
be a little bit skeptical. So Edward Bower Litton his
(16:48):
novel there is fiction. It's trans fiction. He said it
was fiction. He said it was fiction. I'm repeating that. Uh.
He also, and this is just a neat little historical
side note here, he also, I believe is the winner
for the worst opening sentence of a novel in English.
(17:09):
It wasn't this novel. It's different and it's a it's
a weird description. We'll you'll have to check it out,
or maybe we can bring it to a link on
our website. But yes, so this name, according to the stories,
inspired this society. But at this point there's no solid
(17:30):
historical evidence for the existence of such a society, although
there is some pretty compelling stuff about Nazi experimentation of
other forms of energy. Right, I would just like to
say that to me, of real society, if it did exist,
would be kind of like a fandom community. Yeah, for
(17:51):
this novel. You know what, that's a really good point.
And how weird is that if that truly did inspire
some of these horrifying things and horrifying practices, it's pretty
messed up. That is strange. Fiction does have such a power,
does That's a really good point. Men, Sorry, I didn't
mean yeah, I'm sorry, I started zoning out. You guys. Sometimes, uh,
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sometimes one of us will make a point that seems
phenomenally deep to the other person, and we'll just sort
of tune out and think about that one other thing.
Ben really fast. There's another popular book called The Morning
of the Magicians, and this is the one that made
people think that the real society was real. Right, Yeah,
This is from nineteen sixty and it suggested that a
(18:34):
secret quote real society existed in pre Nazi Berlin. However, again,
there's no, absolutely no historical evidence that that society existed.
He see me getting excited across the table here, right, Yeah,
it's not just the coffee. I'm thrilled to mention one
of the biggest groups that does have historical evidence behind it,
(18:57):
and that is and an alb Yes, yes, it is
one of the most fun things to say. It is.
We have probably alienated some of our co workers because
Matt and I sit across from each other and there's
a wall that divides us. So we will will stand
(19:20):
up and talk over that wall or sometimes just say
things and not know if the other persons on headphones.
It's true, that's true. And when we this week, when
we've been hopping up and going, oh Ben, did just
see about and nab, everyone just gets a little uncomfortable,
including ourselves, right yeah, because we continue talking in the
in our horrible voices about that. But this is the
(19:43):
real Nazi Magic Department, and it all depends on a
guy that you probably remember from some of our earlier
works on this, a fellow named Heinrich Himmler. Yeah, he
was born in nineteen hundred, on a fun year to
be born in He developed the s S. That's im.
He developed the S S and he oversaw a lot
of the work of the Annan Arab. He also built
(20:06):
extermination camps and he directed the course. Unfortunately, of the Holocaust. Right,
it's important, vital even for us to remember that despite
how some of this might sound to the very skeptical right,
to the people who think magic is silly or absurd,
that this was not just some silly, absurd man. He
(20:27):
was doing things that were on a large scale and horrific.
He was an an intensely serious dude that did some
horrible things. And he turned the SS into a racially
based secret society. And he even used pagan rituals with
this thing. Yeah, he sought to supplant Christianity as a
(20:51):
practice amongst s S officers, which we talked about a
little bit in one of our videos, by taking out
Christian holidays, you know, Easter, Christmas, all that stuff, which
is you know, I'm just gonna say it, which is
already based on pre existing pagan holidays. That's just true.
(21:12):
And uh, well he even replaced a lot of the
symbols using rooms in ancient rooms. Um, even Odin is
m Yeah, he wanted to get people back into worshiping Odin.
Oh that's heavy. Yeah, And uh, this this all leads
to a very strange situation. Of course, if you're one
(21:33):
of the officers who has to do this and tell
your kids, Hey, guys, we're just doing Soulstice now. Yeah,
it's their kids, no Christmas for you. Yeah, it's a
It's very It must have been a very weird household
conversation for a lot of those people. So, Matt, why
and when did he found the n and AP? He
(21:53):
founded the NNP in nineteen thirty five, Why you asked, Oh,
why did he do that? He did it to discover
or really to create a new mythology, a new history
and a folklore of Germany. He he really wanted to
reflect the wolkesh attitudes of the nationalist society. I see
(22:17):
a politically correct version of history as they saw it. Yeah,
that was it would end up being horrifying. So uh,
Annell comes from a pretty obscure German word. Um it
means something inherited from forefathers. And the official mission of
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this of this big department is to unearth new evidence
of accomplishments and deeds of ancestors of the Germanic people
using here's the tricky part science, Yeah, exact scientific method.
So in reality, the nat was in the business of
myth making, at least that's what we've found. Its prominent
(23:02):
researchers devoted themselves to changing the truth, distorting the truth,
and putting out these carefully tailored pieces of evidence that
would support the ideas of mine fura of Adolf Hitler,
and he believed that only the Arians, this fictional Nordic
race of the tall, flaxen haired men and women blonde
(23:24):
uh from northern Europe, that they were possessed with the
genius required to create civilization. Only those people, and most
modern Germans, he claimed, were descended from these ancient Arians.
Now this is interesting because you always here in the
United States, at least various members of Congress saying your
(23:45):
politicize in the issue or your polittified lamely astro, which
are the only two congressional voices I can do. Guess
who they are, let us know right and let us
know they're not in the same party. But the point
is that this is a very dangerous thing for science
in general when someone needs a politically expedient answer, because
(24:10):
it usually means something that supports their political aims. So
no one is really going update off Hitler and saying, well,
we think that civilization was probably not started by these
people that just decided was started by right, But they
can't do that and expect to keep their job at
(24:30):
the very least. And again, as we have said, it
is completely possible that entire civilizations have been lost to history.
We just don't have proof that the beliefs that these
people had were in any way true. So science had
failed forever too uncover proof of this master race starting
(24:56):
civilization in some Promethean way um and being simally responsible
for all human culture. So the idea was to Heinrich
Himler that we can discover this stuff by I don't know,
creating it, guiding it, molding it a little bit. So
that's why they, uh, the n and AMP researched historical
(25:20):
archaeological evidence of this race that up to now did
not have much proof of its existence. Right and Himler
essentially created the most well funded I like, how you
put this most well funded folklore department in history billions.
You know, I love folklore, Matt, I love that stuff,
(25:42):
and folklore classes with some of my favorite classes in
in the history of my education. But folklore isn't you know,
it's not like engineering, it's a it's not a very
well moneyed pursuit. So this became a million deutsche mark
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industry for the Germany at the time, And we have
some list of things that they research, just to give
you a just to give you a bit of a
sense of the depth and breadth of this. Yes, and
we're going to read these in English correct. Yeah. Yeah,
I'm not going to tackle that German. I've already accidentally
(26:23):
been offensive enough. Well, let's just go down the list, then,
shall we. Sure, we've first got Indo Germanic Aryan language
and cultural studies, and then we also have Germanic cultural
studies and landscape science. We've got Indo Germanic faith history,
Indogermanic historical jurisprudence. We've got Indo Germanic and German music,
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and then Germanic German folklore, ethnic research and folklore, folk tales,
fairy tales and myths and even runs, alphabets and symbols.
And that all goes under one branch of the in
an arab and that branch was social science. But there
was also the natural science branch. And here's where we
find hard evidence of Nazi occult practices. Yeah, this is
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where you get into descriptive and applied natural history. Yeah,
and and listen, because these start out a little bit innocuous,
but you'll see what we're talking about soon. They also
did biology, entomology, astronomy, horse breeding, botany, plant genetics, spelology,
cave explorations, scientific history that's kind of vague. Here we go,
(27:33):
applied geology, geochronology, nuclear physics, folk medicine, osteology, survey of
the so called occult sciences. But yeah, and they had
so called in there to make it seem a little
bit more level headed than it was. But they really
did travel to Finland and meet people they thought were witches,
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and they really did enlist psychic experiments. And the last
one that we we would be remiss if we didn't
mention was military scientific research. This became the Charnel House.
This is a household horrors, where they started collecting skeletons
of people they had killed doing barometric pressure tests. And
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that was maybe one of the most frightening things is
that was one small part of this giant institution where
you know, in in another part of Germany people are
researching horse breeding and man and it's gosh, this is
just something I wanted to bring up. We you mentioned
Indiana Jones in our flog and you know, indeed had
(28:40):
to deal with Nazis several times. Yeah, he kept running
into him. Well, it's interesting to note that these quote
Nazi archaeologists end quote were the basis for the for
India running any of these people, because there really were
expeditions that the Nazis took to discover all kinds of antiquities,
um antiques and law civilizations. Oh and now we're into
(29:01):
our here's where it gets crazy mood, alright, because there's
a lot of stuff that we actually don't know and
may never know about Zan and Ebb and about the
actions or findings of the Nazi archaeologists. We know that
they we we know that there were two and perhaps
(29:24):
contradictory kind of purposes. We know that one they were
building mythology or propaganda and they were aware of this
and they were doing it purposefully. And then we know,
on the other hand, they really did believe in some
of these things, that really did believe there was a
holy grail, they could find a spear of destiny, stuff
like that. And if that's true, then we have to
(29:45):
ask ourselves, did they find anything? Then how would we know? Right?
And then we go into other stuff like do we
know what actual magic the Nazis practice, because a lot
of times you do that kind of stuff in a
dark hole somewhere with torches and nobody can see you,
(30:07):
and you don't really write down notes. Yeah, a cult
means hidden. And then there's the idea of the black sun.
What is the relationship between this stuff, the science is magic,
this symbolism. What about the reports that some concentration camp
survivors had of being forced to work underground your V
two rocket assemblies? You know? What about the reports of
(30:27):
the guys and operations Epsilon where they were recorded for
a while at the farmhouse. Yeah, in that farmhouse, and
they talked about some stuff which makes us wonder is
was it just like a handy code? A lot of
One of my favorite quotes from that, and I'm not
gonna have the exact quote, but when one of the
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guys remarked, do you think they have microphones in here?
You know they're listening to us, And the other guy said, well, no,
they don't. They don't know all the Stazi techniques to
come on as Americans. And there for now, we're going
to have to cut it short. There's a lot of
stuff we didn't get to. But the rest maybe a
story for another day. Please check out our stuff about
(31:09):
Nazi magic if you haven't yet, and let us know
what else we should look at. Again. There's a great
book on this, a very controversial book called The Brotherhood
of the Bell, which goes into some of the ideas
about real and there really is a flooded underground or
a flooded mine, right, Matt, that no one's had access
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to for a while, and no one knows what's in there.
So this does end on a little bit of a mystery.
And that's the best part about all of this. It's
a mystery, but it's food. It's so much food for thought,
and that's why I love these topics. And I don't know,
every once in a while we get comments on our
YouTube page, hey where are you covering Nazis? Uh? The
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Nazis come on and again, like we said at the top,
they're covered a lot in this subject area. But the
that fascination with the unknown is always going to be
with this group. And I think that's why we're gonna
go back and we're this is not the end for
Nazis for us Ben in about a year, I'm sure
we'll be back in Nazi territory. One other thing, just
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because we're talking about magic, I want to mention, and
I don't usually plug other podcasts, but and I know
everybody knows about the WTF pod, but Mark Marrin had
the amazing Jonathan on his show. Do you remember the
amazing Jonathan from TV? Uh? Fairly famous magician back in
the little nineties eight late eighties nineties. I remember watching
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on TV a lot. Anyway, it's a fascinating interview that's
super heavy and I would not expect it. I didn't
expect it. Anyway. You should check that out. Yes, And
while you're checking stuff out on the internet, we want
you guys to know you are welcome, but not obligated
to nominator vote for us on the Streamy Awards. We
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would really appreciate it. We are free show. Our sponsor,
Illumination Global Unlimited, gives us a pretty free raim with
this stuff, and we hope that we're covering things that
you would like to hear. Speaking of that real quick
before we get out, because the crew of tech stuff
is gonna kill us too much over our time. Um
My thought maybe we could just read some tweets. All right, yeah, alright,
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I would like to thank Freaky Fire. By the way,
at Freaky Fire, our friend Heather for we're nominating us.
Oh yeah, that's true. I just saw that. Uh. Heather
just said, just nominated some faiths for the streamy's named
us along with Forward Thinking brain Stuff and then mom
Stuff podcast. That's Sminty Stuff. Mom never told you. So
we're grateful. We really appreciate that. And uh, let's see
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another one. Joel wrote to us and said, what do
you guys think is up with the hell mouth hole
in Yamal, Siberia? Y a m a l um. We're
digging into this, but we wanted to let you guys
know too, so you don't have to wait for us
to tell you. We want to hear more about what
you think. Is that the old giant hole or the
new sinkhole slash whatever hole that just appeared in Siberia.
(34:10):
I think it's the one that just appeared. Uh. And
then we had somebody say that we should sell T shirts.
Rachel said, you guys should sell T shirts with Here's
where it gets crazy on them. So we retweeted and
asked if people would and we had some people say, uh, yeah,
take a try it out, We'll buy one. And then
we had uh, we had Victor say that we should
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talk more about sleeper agents. What do you think about that?
Most definitely, um. And then we've got something that we'll
go ahead and retweet right now, which is um. Our friend,
uh Bart and I hope I'm pronouncing your name correctly,
said they were found ten thousand year old rock paintings
depicting Aliens and UFOs found in Chittascara, India, and that's
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reported by the Times of India. So we're gonna to
go ahead and retweet that right now. And let's see.
I think that's enough now because we ended with a retweet,
right Uh, So we're gonna get out of here. I
think in our some of our next episodes we'll probably
do some listener mail. What do you think, man? Oh?
Most definitely it's time again. And if you want to
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