January 2, 2023 • 48 mins
A warehouse fire in Brooklyn destroys incalculable amounts of NYPD evidence. The app Lensa prompts a conversation about the future of art (which Ben partially predicted). Human-made nuclear fusion is finally real -- but will it work the way humans hope? All this and more in this week's Strange News.
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From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A
production of I Heart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show.
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My name is Matt, my name is Nol. They called
me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer Paul,
Mission controlled dec and most importantly, you are you. You
are here and that makes this the stuff they don't
want you to know. Twenty twenty three, a little bit
of fanfair Paul, if you will perfect, there we go. Uh.
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We we made it. We're coming to you from the
past year. Uh. Listeners, fellow conspiracy realists, you may have
noticed that we took some time off, got a little
R and R. Hopefully by the time you're hearing this,
and we hope you had a great end of the
year as well. We figured what better way to kick
things off by doing one of our favorite segments on
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the show, Strange News. We're going to talk about a
a fire. We're going to talk about um, a great
debate regarding the nature of art and ownership. Uh. And
we're also going to talk about something that I think
we've always dreamed of nuclear fusion caveat astric astric. Yeah.
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And while like you know, this isn't exactly like a
year end round up of news, um, several of these
stories really do kind of encapsulate the zeitgeist of the
year in some ways. UM. Specifically this fusion thing, which
has been a long time coming, um for many years.
And uh, the idea of AI and where it's heading
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and facial recognition uh turning into a bit of a
novelty item, that is you and people you know fun avatar,
so their profile without them maybe realizing that they're kind
of feeding an unseen beast. Yes, and uh, I think
I think all three of our stories today, uh further
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these larger conversations. So what what better way to kick
off the new year? I I propose that we um
I've proposed since we've got two science ones. Uh, we
start maybe with what you just set up so beautifully. No,
let's let's talk about LENSA and uh, let's see, now
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everybody's familiar with this. Uh. You if you are on
social media, you have seen, um some really beautiful profile
picks in very specific styles that people have used through
the lens of app. But that that's not the only
one of its kind out there. But I think that's
where the debate really took root. As that correct it
is and it's you. It's the kind of uh viral
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marketing you really can't pay for better. Yeah, let have
users pay for the privilege of advertising our app. Uh.
There's no water mark on these images, which I thought
was really interesting. So it created this conversation where did
you get that? Where did that come from? Wow, you
look like an Elvin princess or a superhero or a
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freaking Blade Runner character, you know, all these stylized portraits
some kind of like, well, I did it because I'm
a suckle uh and I love a good technology um gimmick,
you know, a big fan. I don't want to be
left behind in the conversation, so I uh and the
first to admit that I unknowingly fed said beast. But again,
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let's get back to kind of the conversation. All of
a sudden, the Internet was flooded, much like all of
those um you know kind of AI generated little meme things,
you know, like, well, what are the you know, you
feed it some texts or was it not mid journey
with the original one? Um? Oh, gosh, now I'm forgetting.
But it was the one that kind of was easy,
easily accessible without pay internet in some text and you
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could have like Johnny Cash eating corn on the cob
or whatever it might be. So that was, you know,
a massive internet phenomenon. This is sort of the next
version of that. But what these are they're not that
same kind of weird like a deep dream kind of
psychedelic mishmash kind of stuff. These are highly, highly stylized
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at times photo realistic portraits of you. Um, and all
you Gotta do is you know, first asked the question
like I did. In fact, it was asked of uh
super producer extraordinaire Alexis code named doc Holiday Jackson. When
I saw these incredible, you know, beautiful portraits looked like
a human being had done them, you know, and been
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paid handsomely, you know, to do that, um, to which
she replied, it's this app called lens Up. Lensa an
app created by Prisma AI. Um, you feed it a
handful of selfies. I think it's twenty or something like.
It says it's either ten or twenty, and I think
it's I think it's ten. Um, and they have to
be of a certain you know, uh distance, you know,
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like a certain frame, right, Like you don't want a
full body thing. I think they'll reject them and they
won't tell you why, and you just have to find
one that's more appropriate. And once it does that, depending
on the load, you know, in terms of the demand,
it'll take between fifteen twenty. I did it for a
couple of friends and and a little later, you know,
after kind of the things started really hitting. It was
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taking a couple of hours to process those selfies. And
you pay a couple of bucks. Um, I think it's
like five bucks or something like that for I think fifty,
and you can pay I think twenty bucks for a hundred,
and they're done kind of in these buckets, these sort
of style buckets. Like one of them is like Superhero,
one of them is like Greek mythology or something like that.
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You know. They had me looking like Odin or you know,
freaking Thor or whatever, um with the beard and they
gave me like valkyrie horns and all this stuff and
then were awesome and they're super cool. That's the thing, y'all.
This is cool, Okay. I am fascinated by where I
is going I I did it too, but it didn't
upload it because I was talking with some of my
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friends in the art community and they were very much
of the opinion that something was rotten in the state
of Denmark. You know. That's that's the thing with AI.
You know, even this like mid Journey stuff. You know,
our dear friend and illustrator of the stuff they don't
want you to know book Nick Benson. Um he he
has a subscription to mid Journey and as simultaneously fascinated
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and terrified by this technology because mid Journey specifically, you've
got some amazing folks that are using this to kind
of create images of things that just don't exist. You know,
if you have the finesse and you can enter the
right kind of text, which can get really elaborate, like
you're describing the lighting, you're describing the background, you're describing
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like a style of cinema, you know, like for example,
or like maybe a director or an artist or whatever.
And if you do really well, you can create some
genuinely remarkable things that aren't meant to mimic necessarily what
a human would do. It's sort of taking it to
the next level, and you could, let's say you're a
really interesting artist. You could combine these AI things with
your own work, or even feed it your own art,
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and it'll like spit out some genuinely fascinating things. Um.
A buddy of mine, a great artist and musician here
in landa named Danny Carey Bailey. He if you follow
him on Instagram, just look for Danny Carey Bailey. Um
he he like make it. He'll make iterations of these
things and animate them together to create these kind of
moving you know, like video loops of this super uncanny
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not uncanny valley, just uncanny, like you know, fantasy landscapes
and and things that just, like I said, just don't exist.
These objects that look like something oount of a you know,
David Cronenberg kind of body horror kind of stuff, like
really really neat if you kind of know what you're doing.
But that's not what lenses do. What Lens is doing
is essentially mimicking these highly stylized portrait that you know,
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folks at say CON's, you know, Comic Con, Dragon Con, whatever,
they set up their booths and this is the kind
of stuff they sell that's kind of like D and
D portraiture, you know, or like like like well, will
you know fan art, you know, whatever it might be.
But these are done maybe using some technology like a
you know, a welcome tablet or whatever. Those than the
new iterations of that is um. But they're using their
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their their skills as an artist. They're using a stylist
of some kind, or they're drawing and then scanning them
into computer and then using that to layer and add
additional stuff. Or it's entirely analogue and it's you know,
paint and uh and pen and anchor what have you. Um.
What this Prisma AI by way of the lens app
thing is doing is creating what they're referring to as
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magic avatars, which is like biting this whole game, this
whole style that typically you would have a very skilled
artist either do a portrait or like let's say a
character from Game of Thrones or whatever. Um, and you'd
pay good money for these, or they can sell print
of them. You know a lot of times original pieces
are very expensive. There's only one, but if you sell
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really high quality like geekly art prints or whatever, you
can sell dozens of them and really make a good
living that way. Um. Again back to Nick, he did
this as well, and he had friends that did it,
but it freaks him out while him also completely fascinating him. Um.
And the reason this is extra sketchy is because it
could potentially completely remove that kind of business from these
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individuals who rely on this stuff to keep them going. Um.
Not to mention what this could mean for like say,
corporate art. You know again, a lot of the individuals
get these corporate gigs where they're like doing illustrations or
logos or whatever. And the more this AI stuff progress
is going to become increasingly distinguishable from quote unquote the
real thing um as in done by human And we
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know how much corporations love jumping on trends like this
and love doing I mean, they can to remove the
human element because it's something they can't control, and this
will allot on them to keep costs under control. And
at the end of the day, are they really that
concerned with how authentic or bespoke because art is as
long as it kind of gets the job done. Probably not.
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It depends on the corporation, right, if they're architectural firm,
or if they're a corporation that is involved with um,
the art world, then they probably do want to have
some things we spoke, but that's that's to your point.
It is probably more an exception to rule. You know. Uh,
this is always a time when people make predictions. And
one thing that's strange about recording in three through the
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magic podcast editing is we made a prediction on this
show that is coming to pass. I would say this
lends a conversation. The reason I think it lends itself
to a larger conversation. Whatever no pun left behind is
because um, it's part of this bigger ce change. You
could go to stuff like sas book dot com right with.
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The prediction we made was that eventually a I will
have the ability to make bespoke film for you. Put
in your favorite stars or your name or anyone with
enough audio footage, visual footage, and boom, it will make
a movie. I just tried sas book and put in
stuff they don't want you to know a podcast episode,
and they gave us the sentence. The first day of
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my trial, the judge, a man named Mr D, asked
me a series of questions about the events surrounding my birth.
He was the first of many I guess who had
been in the room. Weird but coherent and coherent and
weirdly on brand in terms of the voice of the
way we might set up a topic, you know what
I mean. And we also I think we've we've made
no secrets about the fact that even our company has
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participated and you know we we we will pilot or
you know, um invest in kind of technology or technological companies,
and we've talked about how we participated in a pilot
program to kind of create um AI versions of our voices.
And the goal there is to make it where we
don't have to do a million iteration and ad reads.
Right this this app or whatever it is, can you know,
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create those for us or GEO target them by feeding
We had to feed it like we had to do
a bunch of reads and and feed it this this
voice data. Um we we can also translate into a
bunch of languages and make us sound like we speak
those languages, but imperfectly perfectly. If you know Spanish, the
idioms are off, well, of course they're gonna be off
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because we're making references and speaking in parlance that is
that is very specifically American, you know, slang and all
that stuff. And without a really robust AI they can
kind of you know, kind of flip those things and
and uh tetris them into a different format. It's gonna
be weird. You know. It might get the job done
and sound to the untrained ear like, okay, that's legit,
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but if you're really a native Spanish speaker, it's gonna
be super awkward. And uh it required us to kind
of go back to the drawer. Are you know, bosses
and whomever is kind of you know, behind the scenes
of this stuff to go back to the drawing board
and figure you're out ways to make that stuff more unbelievable.
Um So, so what exactly is Lensa doing and how
long has it been around. It's surprisingly it's been around
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since two thousand and eighteen, they say. The company says,
there's a really good Mashable article by Mera uh nov
lock Up from earlier this month about this and um
one thing that you could also do. It's interesting in
this is you can change your gender. You can you
can change you can put in you know, female, male
or other, which I'm not sure kind of what that
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encompasses that I didn't do that, but I have seen
you know, friends who are in the trans community, you know,
doing it. For their gender of choice and making these
like anime elaborate like God, I wish I was that
I looked like that, you know, And and that's the
case for you know, any gender. It's all very hyper
um stylized and hyper kind of like hot, you know. No,
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you said you had to upload like ten or more. Yeah,
what does the company do with those images and the
like face data that they create? You have the yeah, yeah,
And the thing is, though, I mean, you could make
the argument that it doesn't need you to give it
to them directly. We know about these scrapers and things,
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you know, how much information we just willingly to shove
out onto the internet. Um, if you google any of
our names, you're gonna find probably about ten pictures easily,
you know that could be used to feed this machine.
Maybe because we're public, you know whatever, figures for lack
of a better way of describing it, maybe there's more
than an average person. But honestly, even an average person,
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Facebook isn't like private exactly unless you go through a
lot of steps to to completely make it private. And
even then, I am pretty skeptical as to you know this,
these things not being available to the right kind of scraper,
which is just an app that goes and just gathers, gathers,
gathers all this available data images, um little whatever tidbits
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off the internet. Right Yeah, I'd like to also shout
out uh the Australian artist Kim Lutwiler. I believe she's
been making rounds in the Guardian because she had and
several science outfits. She had seen the styles of artists
in her community and her own style being used heavily
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and lends a portraits. And the question is are those
artists being compensated? The answer is is no. And it's
so insidious, man. It goes back to like my Space
quizzes and Facebook quizzes, people are obsessively fascinated with themselves, right,
tell me more about me, show me more about myself.
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There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but it tricks people
into giving away things that they might not have given
away if they had, you know, less obtuse terms of
service or clear explanations. And as you pointed out, we're
already a bridge too far, we I. It's the equivalent
of having face tattoos, you know, we have. We have
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irreparably entered the public sphere. For better or worse, you know,
so learn from learn from us, right, Yeah, And to
to the previous point about the corporate side of this thing,
we know AI is being used to generate kind of
stock images. You know. Um, that's a really great use
of this. Instead of having to set up a photo shoot,
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you can just you know, use this data that people
are feeding you to create guy with golf club, you know,
and cup of coffee or whatever it might be that
you need. And then it's gonna be a lot cheaper
than having to license like a Getty image or even
like what shutter stock or any of these kind of
like you know, um uh, subscription based services where you
can use these images, and there are terms of services
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that you you know, have to stick to in terms
of how you can use it in commercial work or
what blah blah blah whatever. So lends A claims they
don't retain this face data. Um, but you know we've
heard that for And there is an email privacy at
lensa dash ai dot com where you can request they
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delete all your personal data. But it is kind of
that like opt out thing again as opposed to giving permission. Um.
But it's that shiny new object that makes everyone so excited.
They don't bother reading the terms of use because they
want their pretty picture, you know, they want their magic
avatar or whatever. Um and Lessens made no mistake at
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the very least, even if they're not retaining our actual data.
We are training their AI. We are training this algorithm
that they have to be the best at this because
the more data you feed these things, that's how it works.
That's why it was such a big deal, like in
one of the Batman movies where they turned every cell
phone in the world into a microphone or something like that.
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And yeah, and that's what we also here get and
and worry about with things like alexa um that it's
when it's listening and what happens to that data, whether
it retains that are not in some sort of permanent way.
You are training it to be better to do, to
be a better AI. UM And back to Nick again.
Nick does a lot of art for the hip hop
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group Run the Jewels, and when he first got mid Journey,
he typed in like Killer Mike animated portrait or Killer
Mike kind of start whatever you I don't remember, I
don't know the exact text, but when it spit out
looked a hell of a lot like one of Nick's pieces,
which exists on the internet, um, you know, in marketing
materials for Run the Jewels. So it is using the
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work of artists that already is out there to feed
this algorithm, and it is using our faces, you know,
to to to create a better algorithm to make kind
of fake faces. And you said you have to pay
for this opera. It's free. That's the beauty of it, mean,
the duty in terms of on their end, yeah, because
it looks so good, they figured, well, hell we can,
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we can convince people to pay a couple of bucks
for this. I sure did. I paid for it three time.
Is one for myself, one for my kid, and one
from my h my kid's mom. So they are associating
your face with an account with a credit card, likely
that you use the thing. Like I said, I'm a big,
giant sucker. Which is why I think I'm the perfect
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person to bring the story, you know, to you, because
I was had. And again I've I've mentioned this in
the past, like do I really care that much? I
think I'm maybe starting to a little more now that
I understand kind of more the big picture of this
and how my my face or my kid's face or
some fact similar of it could end up in an
advertisement without my permission or without any um, you know,
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legal recourse. Uh, And that's the future we're heading towards.
But also, like, just by virtue of being on the Internet,
I think these algorithms are getting fed whether we you know,
do it willingly or not. So it's sort of like
a you know, dann if you do danned if you
don't kind of situations. So why not just get the
pretty picture? But may me I'm being naive there, but
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I do, I do understand the future we're heading for.
I just would like, do I really have a choice?
So why not just enjoy the ride? I guess. So
lots more to come with this kind of tech and
uh the lens app and whatever the next gen version
of it might be. And UM starting to see the
way advertising starts to kind of evolve because of these algorithms.
Because I don't want to freak us out and do
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it too quickly, but it's it's inevitable. So let's take
a quick break. Here a word from our sponsor, UM,
possibly with robot voices, because that's definitely a thing that's
being used in ad reads nowadays too, by the way, Uh,
and you can usually sort of tell, but it's gonna
come a point where you can't, and then we'll be back.
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All right, we're back, and we're gonna talk about fire
really quickly. I'm doing the super fast guys. Uh. Speaking
of fire, I want to call out my friend Robert
Jabrie Brown uh slash uh st x pre slash Prefontaine slash.
There's so many ways you might know him on the
the old Internet. Just want to shout him out really quickly.
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He had a video come out for a new song
not long ago. I just want everyone who's out there
to search YouTube for Robert Jabris r O B E
R T J A B R E. Search for I'm
capital I apostrophe M. Check out that video. It's just
one of the coolest songs I've heard him doing a
long time. He's gonna He's an incredible artist who creates music.
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Um oh, left hand is good too, that's all. He's
got a ton of great music out there. Search Robert Jabris.
He also did a couple of videos that you had
something to do with Matt. There's one called stuff that
he did with beats there with participation from one of
my favorite kind of electronic weird jazzy sample head guys
named a'man Tobin for Ninja tune. Um. And it's a
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really badass Kung Fu theme video that you and your
your homies had a big, big hand in. Yes, Chandler Maze,
Tyler Clang, Casey Pigram and right Elephant. Anyway, just shouting
out you Robert Debris. Uh, everybody go check him out. Okay,
here we go now, speaking of other fires, massive fires,
there was one in the neighborhood of Red Hook in Brooklyn,
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New York. I wasn't really sure where this was, guys,
so I had to go to Google Maps. I posted
a link in there if you want to check it out. Um.
This is a huge, huge warehouse on Columbia Street. And
one of the things that this warehouse houses, because it's
not this isn't the only thing in that warehouse, but
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one of the things that it houses is the eerie
basin auto pound. Guys, when is the last time you
remember hearing the phrase going too the pound or taking
You're gonna take a car to the pound, or you
gotta go to the pound? Right in pounding a car right.
Uh yeah, this is uh just for perspective on the
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road a while back for recorded and on a video
all with you, Matt, where I said, did you hear
about the fire? And um, it's it's strange because we
are constantly in contact about things that go on and
this sent me down a rabbit hole instantly. Yeah, it was.
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It was a bummer to be on the rest of
the call. And uh, you know, I'm I'm I'm a
pretty great listener, but I was uphill for that one. Well,
nobody on that call, most of whom were in New
York by the way and in Manhattan, had heard about
this fire, had seen this fire. Even though the blaze
was so huge, A lot of New Yorkers who did
get to see the black smoke arising from Red Hook
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in that area over in Brooklyn, they thought it had
started on Manhattan because there was so much black smoke
just pouring over the area. Well, here's why this fire
is important, why we're talking about it. This facility, this
pound held a lot of evidence, including cars like you
would you know, get impounded for that kind of evidence,
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other vehicles. It also held a ton of DNA evidence,
historical NYPD DNA evidence. Um, oh yeah, decades and decades
and it was all just in this huge warehouse stored
away and when this fire occurred. This information is coming
from December two, by the way, so that's that's when
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the fire occurred. And um that's that's the best information
we have right now. There haven't been a ton of
updates about this. All the news was just trying to
assess how much damage was done to you know, that
store of DNA and that store of evidence that could
potentially in some way affect a new case or a
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current case, but mostly it's just affecting older cases, especially
cold cases, and that doesn't bode well for you know,
New Yorkers or law enforcement in general. It's terrible too,
because you know, this is coming on the heels of
the ongoing COVID pandemic, right or whatever new diseases will
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get published in three So the judicial system already slowed
to a crawl, right even so, you know, the backlog
problem has increased by an order of magnitude. But uh, Matt,
I think I'm speaking for a lot of our fellow
conspiracy realists here when we say, what's the official explanation
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for the fire, and do you think it is legit? Well,
you know, I maybe offer right now because I'm speaking
to you from information from December. At that time, it
was unknown what sparked the fire. There is one section
of this huge warehouse that did collapse or did fall
The top fell in, and underneath that section there were
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a bunch of um if they call him e bikes,
I'm assuming it's the kind of like bikes you can rent,
you know, around the city that get recharged and everything. Um,
they're unsure if that had anything to do with it.
There's so Marias perhaps Yeah, there's a potential for that, right. Um,
there was so much combustible material within that large warehouse
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that they were unsure at the time what started it.
There were six first responders and two civilians that got
hurt trying to fight this thing and get away from
this fire. Um. So it was really big and very
hot obviously. Um, so it's just unknown. Do you have
a newer information. Uh, we hopefully we will have newer
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information by the time this comes out, but we really
don't know. One thing that stood out to me, Matt
after again, I learned this from you. Uh, they learned
from watching you um, I read in uh, I read
a statement from the Arson and Explosions squads. Some of
those first responders you're talking about, uh, and the the
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firefighter chief, a guy named John Hodgens, said the fire
is likely to burn for a few days. Yeah, when
it was occurring. Bit of a las fair attitude to
take towards a structure fire in such a densely populated city.
Oh yeah, Well, the good I mean, the only good
thing is that it's on the waterfront. When it comes
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to you know, endangering a lot of other human beings.
There are a lot of businesses that exist there, like
on a it almost looks like a pier in a
couple of areas or just right on you know the
water there. Um, those were probably in danger. The NYPD
Chief Joseph Majori said, this is a very serious and
damaging fire. We don't know the magnitude until we see
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the invoice to see what was in there and see
what we can salvage. So it's literally like, oh man,
we because this was all happening in the moment, we
got to look back see the inventory and then we'll
figure out how much of it is lost. Because they
were saying that most of the contents within are probably
damaged at least damaged, right right, Yeah, and there was
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also this ongoing, uh, concern about people on motorbikes. Right,
so a lot of a lot of dirt bikes got confiscated.
A t V s um. Yeah, it's just it instantly sets.
It could totally be um and innocuous, accidental and tragic fire.
But also we without alleging conspiracy at this point, we
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have to say it, Uh, there are a couple of
people who are probably going to get away with some stuff,
now right, Well, I was gonna ask Matt, I'm picturing,
you know, and when I'm thinking about these samples being
stored some sort of cryogenic you know, warehouse of like
you know, like like dry ice steam kind of share
(28:48):
lock kind of sitch, I'm assuming that's completely You're you're
taught each one of not each one of these things.
The evidence was stored in these big cardboard containers. They
refer to them as cardboard barrels, which I just don't
really like that description, but their their car cardboard containers
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of some sort. And when there's fire and you've got cardboard, yeah,
it becomes fuel and the batteries and uh, any gas
in the tanks of some of these bikes, which of
which they're hundreds and hundreds. Also, no sprinklers, is that
is am I to be told there are no sprinklers here.
(29:33):
That is a little weird. It's a huge warehouse. You
think there'll be some kind of fire prevention system, right,
you do think that's code. Other kinds of evidence in
here too, though, right, Like this is like essentially like
a giant you know, evidence storage facility, like the kind
of breaking bad that they destroyed with magnets, you know
what I mean. So it would be bagged up guns,
(29:54):
you know, any other kind of photographic evidence like things
like that, like all sorts, not just d n A.
It's like the layer of a dragon that collects evidence
instead of gold. But but just keep in mind most
of it, as you thinking about what you said, Ben,
somebody's gonna get away with it. Most of this stuff
is from twenty thirty years ago, most of it, right,
(30:15):
not all right, Um, It's definitely a place where evidence
goes to just sit and stay. It's not the active
stuff that would probably be at a prec precinct somewhere.
Last interruption, I swear, is there no good way to
quote unquote back up DNA evidence. Do you literally have
to have the material? You can't like have a record
that it existed and that be enough. You have to
(30:37):
have the stuff it could be I guess I I
don't know how that would work in a trial. Like
if you just said, I'm just wondering a piece of
paper that said, here's the d NA, here's a picture
of what it looks like. Uh, here's a picture of
years ago, even still be viable to test again, would
it still have all the juice that you need? It's
(30:59):
a good question. I mean, we know that there is
the capacity to store digital uh data wait in d
n A. That's something a little bit different. But I wonder,
you know, given the technological lag that a lot of
authorities face and right the backlogs, the lag they might
not have, you know, the bleeding edge testing and storage techniques,
(31:23):
um and which is not a ding on them. You know,
I'm sure that everybody working in that capacity wants the latest, safest,
most accurate, reliable stuff, but sometimes the budget is just
not there, and like maybe the FBI has it, but
not necessarily the NYPD. Right, Yeah, guys, it just made
me think I wonder why this doesn't happen more And
(31:43):
this is a kind of a scary thought to me,
but why don't evidence storages get attacked more often by
somebody who's like the associates of someone who's going to
prison or a part of a big trial. Like I'm
glad it doesn't have the attacked on Precinct third teen,
you know, where they've got high level you know mob,
you know, people in custody and they literally do a siege,
(32:07):
you know, on this precinct in New York is a
John Carpenter movie. And again that bit and Breaking Bad
where there's a laptop they need to erase because it's
got you know, video on it, and that that was
honestly the first time I'd ever seen and I was like, yeah,
I saw the same I saw the same thing. I
was like, how does this not happen more often? It's
kind of genius. Well, they also, I mean, you're talking
(32:28):
about heavy hitters right in that regard, So I imagine
the evidence is stored accordingly, and let's be honest, sometimes
stuff disappears. That is also true. Sometimes it's a conspiracy.
Sometimes it's simple human error, right because incompetence can look
like malevolence from far enough away. Uh. I just think
(32:51):
a lot of people who would like evidence to be
destroyed probably don't have the means to make it so,
you know. And even if it were inside job, I
think there are systems in place, you know, that monitor
the comings and goings and checkings in and out of
all this kind of stuff that it would be really
hard to completely eliminate any evidence of the thing being removed,
(33:13):
short of blowing up the whole facility. Yeah, no, you're right,
or just setting fire to a bunch of e bikes. Bikes.
Police police headed historic drug bust. They they found a
hundred tons of cocaine. Uh, going to trial. Uh, it
looks like the guys are going up the river for
(33:35):
possession of eight five tons of cocaine. And you know,
by the time it gets to the plea bargain, it's
it's about twenty tons. Still like the Irijuana in India. Obvious, Yeah,
there is. I'm obviously not a cocaine expert. I'm sure
anybody more familiar is like tons. Come on, buddy, I'm
(33:58):
sure it's like less than that right times feels like
hortel stuff. You think that's too much. The movies, they
usually measured in kilos. You know, that's sort of the
base level street amount that it would be a unit
of you know what I mean. Legal drugs have done
so much for Americans understanding of the metric system. What
I mean, I've I've had friends who are drug dealers,
(34:20):
and I've got to say, I think the statutes past
thing can say. I've got to say, you know, there
are a lot of stereotypes. Those guys are great at math,
you know, for sure, for sure? Uh wow, Hey, well, hey,
let's do one reminder and let's go to the next segment.
Whenever you've got video evidence of something, make sure you
make backups and you disperse them. Cool. All right, let's
(34:44):
go check. Cool, let's hear a word from our sponsor,
and we'll be right back. And we've returned. Uh. I'm
gonna have to keep this one super brief because it's
news that made the headlines. I think it will be
a future episode. It opens the door for a lot
(35:06):
of places. So it's a great way to end our
first strange news earlier just just quite recently. Uh, the
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory or lonell l l l uh right,
Um just wait, uh, Little has an outfit called the
(35:28):
National Ignition Facility or NIFF, so little niff uh not
to be confused. Yeah, it was sound cloud er based camp.
Little Niff. Uh. Little Niff just announced that they had
made a huge breakthrough in harnessing controlled nuclear fusion, bringing
(35:49):
the power of the sun into the hands of humans.
How prometheyan right asterix asterick caveat uh so so like
with any story here, um, I don't know about you, guys.
A bunch of people were sending this, uh my way,
you know, what do you make of this? We saw
a post on Here's where it gets Here's where it
gets crazy, and a couple of other places. The big
(36:12):
question is, does this mean that humanity is on the
cusp of limitless clean power, finally finally getting ourselves off
the smack that is fossil fuel? Uh and finally, you know,
um burning fewer things right, which is already kind of
an archaic way to get energy. It just works. The
(36:34):
answer is no, not yet, not yet, if the official
stories are to be believed. In fact, we were talking
a little bit off air that almost as soon as
this news came out a bevy of very principled, somewhat
scandalized experts in nuclear science. We're coming out and saying,
(36:56):
please please stop it with these crazy headlines. We're not
the Jetsons, were not Star Trek yet. Uh. I don't know,
but this is what it made me think of, and
this is why I wanted to bring it to all
of us listening along today without getting too much into
the science, which we absolutely can do in an episode. UM,
(37:16):
technological suppression is real. A that's a given knowing that
is it possible that be something like this was successful already?
Is it possible? Is it plausible? Little Niff? Yeah, So
it's so funny, man, I have I have, I have
(37:38):
pitched work up and my tab from previous and there's
a new record who come out today from Little Simms,
which seems like a Little Niff and Little Sims could
guess in each other's records. Just put that out there. A. Yeah,
but we're talking about the fusion, like, is it possible? Ben?
I'm so sorry? Okay, Yeah, So here's simply put. The
big breakthrough is that UH, using a hundred and ninety
(38:05):
something lasers, they were able to create UH to create
a situation such that more energy was produced than was
put in. Oh, which is real sci fi stuff. But
this doesn't necessarily mean like we've cracked it. Nuclear is
no longer important. You know, we're where we're off the coal,
(38:28):
were off the oil starting tomorrow. Yeah, you're correct, that's
not that's not going to happen. Um the now. This
is not to diminish the amazing science. Yeah exactly, but
but it's um, it's it's like, you know, the right
brothers got got their plane off the ground for a
few seconds of Kittie Hawk, and everybody's very excited, and
(38:51):
their question was when can we fly across the world?
And that took a while. Um, I'm the public to
put the car before the horse, right right. UM. So
I'm wondering if it is possible and that this is
not the first iteration of something like this. But the
(39:13):
thing that keeps me from going to conspiratorial here is, um,
if you look at it, if you look at the
nuts and bolts have been published, it's a lot. It's
still really expensive to get out to work. This is
not a light switch. We're not We're just not there yet. Uh.
And also, can can fusion ever contribute, I mean, fusion
(39:39):
could contribute to the grid, but could ever really remove
the path dependence that humans have created. I mean, solar
technology improves by leaps and bounds, geothermal, wind, hydropower, Uh,
those are all you know, in many ways they are
location dependent, but they were did a lot of heads
(40:01):
start scientifically in terms of the R and D put
into these right? Yeah, that's a good point, So so
the other big conspiracy. But first, wait, I didn't get
a straight with you guys. Is it possible that there
was technological suppression? No? Man, I don't think before this announced,
(40:23):
yeah it was it possible. Again, it being such a
non deal breaker announcement, I think probably not. I think
they're you know, they're like, hell, yeah, let's let's publish,
you know, because we did a thing. But it's also
not like a game changer yet. So if the game
changer part existed, then sure, But I don't I think
(40:44):
we'd have some loose lipped scientists that would be you know,
speaking out or protesting or who knows, I don't know,
being assassinated. I just I think we gotta I think
we gotta approach this with super cautious optimism because the
Guardian pointed out an article they wrote about this that
you posted. Been about since the nineteen fifties, we've been hearing, oh,
(41:04):
there's a fusion breakthrough right jam tomorrow, and it just
kind of yeah, exactly. It reminds me of the prophecies
thing that colts always have that we talk about, where
you got to move that goalpost every time, because yeah,
it's a good point at least, you know, unlike a
doomsday prophecy um. This is science rights, a real science.
(41:28):
It makes me think about that company we talked about,
or we at least briefly mentioned a little while ago,
the one that's trying to make a fusion piston or
a gun of some sort that would like reaction on
one side, use that energy to start the reaction on
the other side, and then back and forth. But that
sounds like perpetual motion machine materials. Yeah. I UM. When
(41:49):
you talked about the millennial prophecies or doomsday uh, predictions
of cults and religious sex, it made me immediately think,
are these atomic profits which is a bad name, little
niff in the atomic profits and it is now we need,
we need, let's have let's have someone sendative they would
(42:12):
love to love to hear that project. Um, you guys
are raising great points. Also, here's one thing that stood out.
One of the people interviewed or one of the sorry,
one of the people making announcements regarding this did note
that NIFF is working with lasers that are quote, nineteen
eighties technology and acknowledged that the private sector is likely
(42:36):
ahead of them in some regard. And whenever we think
of tech suppression, you know, we always think of like
the men in black, right, the top men of Indiana Jones,
you know, having cell phones back in the seventies, which
story for a different day. But um, my last conspiracy.
I wanted to ask you guys before we before we
wrap and move on big Oil, you think they do?
(43:00):
You think they're sweating this at all. They're not stoked.
They're not stoked like a coal fire there. It is. No,
It's just I I don't know, because those corporations are
able to function like state level actors in some regards.
So I wonder if I'm sure there eyes on this research,
(43:24):
of course, but I wonder if they're um big enough
or inclined enough to take ownership of it right like
sort of how R. J. Reynolds and tobacco companies kind
of seamlessly shifted into uh smoking cessation tools. They called them, right,
So is is big oil um going to be able
(43:48):
to conspire or would they? Would they? Would they even care?
I mean, if you're very worried about climate change, the
bad news about this fusion stuff is it's not going
to get across the finish line in time for all
those terrible um predictions. What is it in the podcast?
Should we be an oil company? Let's do a little
(44:10):
late to the market. That's a point. Yeah, well we'll
have to stick with a little niff in the topic profit.
So I don't want to say too much yet because
I really do feel this would be an excellent future episode.
And you know what, maya culpa on our end if
by the time this comes out, diffusion is a thing
(44:31):
and it's just accelerated very quickly and you're listening to
this on your fusion powered iPhone in some regard, then
in that case you were right. But I feel like
it's a safe bet to say fusion has a ways
to go. Remember that bit from I think it was
Back to the Future too, or maybe no, it's the
end of Back to the Future. One I think. I
think when it like kind of dovetails into two where
(44:51):
he comes back from the future, which is for the
line back to the Future comes from and he's got
a mr fusion in in the in the DeLorean that
he's feeding whatever garbage too, and that's you know, the
next level version of the the flex capacitor, just biomass.
That also reminds me of years and years ago when uh,
(45:12):
some research came out from Japan where they had plasma
uh like this plasma garbage thing basically that you could
throw anything into it would vaporize it and it would
create energy, and then we never heard about it again.
Can we talk about that with Marshall Brain? Yes? We did, yeah,
in a in a in a recent classic or if
(45:35):
it's not recent, it's coming very soon. No, Bennet, I
talked about that with Marshall and yeah, dude, doctor Brain.
You can't call him doctor because he refuses to get
a degree. We talked about that, but most if you're listening,
were being should you should bring Marshall and Chris Cogswell
(45:55):
back and we should uh talk about nuclear fusion. Yeah,
we should also do it over pizza or something. I'm
saying needing today. Uh, folks, we hope this finds you well.
We can't wait to hear your thoughts. Lends the larger
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(46:17):
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My name is Matt, my name is Nol. They called
me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer Paul,
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We we made it. We're coming to you from the
past year. Uh. Listeners, fellow conspiracy realists, you may have
noticed that we took some time off, got a little
R and R. Hopefully by the time you're hearing this,
and we hope you had a great end of the
year as well. We figured what better way to kick
things off by doing one of our favorite segments on
(01:11):
the show, Strange News. We're going to talk about a
a fire. We're going to talk about um, a great
debate regarding the nature of art and ownership. Uh. And
we're also going to talk about something that I think
we've always dreamed of nuclear fusion caveat astric astric. Yeah.
(01:33):
And while like you know, this isn't exactly like a
year end round up of news, um, several of these
stories really do kind of encapsulate the zeitgeist of the
year in some ways. UM. Specifically this fusion thing, which
has been a long time coming, um for many years.
And uh, the idea of AI and where it's heading
(01:54):
and facial recognition uh turning into a bit of a
novelty item, that is you and people you know fun avatar,
so their profile without them maybe realizing that they're kind
of feeding an unseen beast. Yes, and uh, I think
I think all three of our stories today, uh further
(02:14):
these larger conversations. So what what better way to kick
off the new year? I I propose that we um
I've proposed since we've got two science ones. Uh, we
start maybe with what you just set up so beautifully. No,
let's let's talk about LENSA and uh, let's see, now
(02:35):
everybody's familiar with this. Uh. You if you are on
social media, you have seen, um some really beautiful profile
picks in very specific styles that people have used through
the lens of app. But that that's not the only
one of its kind out there. But I think that's
where the debate really took root. As that correct it
is and it's you. It's the kind of uh viral
(02:57):
marketing you really can't pay for better. Yeah, let have
users pay for the privilege of advertising our app. Uh.
There's no water mark on these images, which I thought
was really interesting. So it created this conversation where did
you get that? Where did that come from? Wow, you
look like an Elvin princess or a superhero or a
(03:17):
freaking Blade Runner character, you know, all these stylized portraits
some kind of like, well, I did it because I'm
a suckle uh and I love a good technology um gimmick,
you know, a big fan. I don't want to be
left behind in the conversation, so I uh and the
first to admit that I unknowingly fed said beast. But again,
(03:40):
let's get back to kind of the conversation. All of
a sudden, the Internet was flooded, much like all of
those um you know kind of AI generated little meme things,
you know, like, well, what are the you know, you
feed it some texts or was it not mid journey
with the original one? Um? Oh, gosh, now I'm forgetting.
But it was the one that kind of was easy,
easily accessible without pay internet in some text and you
(04:03):
could have like Johnny Cash eating corn on the cob
or whatever it might be. So that was, you know,
a massive internet phenomenon. This is sort of the next
version of that. But what these are they're not that
same kind of weird like a deep dream kind of
psychedelic mishmash kind of stuff. These are highly, highly stylized
(04:26):
at times photo realistic portraits of you. Um, and all
you Gotta do is you know, first asked the question
like I did. In fact, it was asked of uh
super producer extraordinaire Alexis code named doc Holiday Jackson. When
I saw these incredible, you know, beautiful portraits looked like
a human being had done them, you know, and been
(04:46):
paid handsomely, you know, to do that, um, to which
she replied, it's this app called lens Up. Lensa an
app created by Prisma AI. Um, you feed it a
handful of selfies. I think it's twenty or something like.
It says it's either ten or twenty, and I think
it's I think it's ten. Um, and they have to
be of a certain you know, uh distance, you know,
(05:08):
like a certain frame, right, Like you don't want a
full body thing. I think they'll reject them and they
won't tell you why, and you just have to find
one that's more appropriate. And once it does that, depending
on the load, you know, in terms of the demand,
it'll take between fifteen twenty. I did it for a
couple of friends and and a little later, you know,
after kind of the things started really hitting. It was
(05:28):
taking a couple of hours to process those selfies. And
you pay a couple of bucks. Um, I think it's
like five bucks or something like that for I think fifty,
and you can pay I think twenty bucks for a hundred,
and they're done kind of in these buckets, these sort
of style buckets. Like one of them is like Superhero,
one of them is like Greek mythology or something like that.
(05:50):
You know. They had me looking like Odin or you know,
freaking Thor or whatever, um with the beard and they
gave me like valkyrie horns and all this stuff and
then were awesome and they're super cool. That's the thing, y'all.
This is cool, Okay. I am fascinated by where I
is going I I did it too, but it didn't
upload it because I was talking with some of my
(06:11):
friends in the art community and they were very much
of the opinion that something was rotten in the state
of Denmark. You know. That's that's the thing with AI.
You know, even this like mid Journey stuff. You know,
our dear friend and illustrator of the stuff they don't
want you to know book Nick Benson. Um he he
has a subscription to mid Journey and as simultaneously fascinated
(06:32):
and terrified by this technology because mid Journey specifically, you've
got some amazing folks that are using this to kind
of create images of things that just don't exist. You know,
if you have the finesse and you can enter the
right kind of text, which can get really elaborate, like
you're describing the lighting, you're describing the background, you're describing
(06:53):
like a style of cinema, you know, like for example,
or like maybe a director or an artist or whatever.
And if you do really well, you can create some
genuinely remarkable things that aren't meant to mimic necessarily what
a human would do. It's sort of taking it to
the next level, and you could, let's say you're a
really interesting artist. You could combine these AI things with
your own work, or even feed it your own art,
(07:16):
and it'll like spit out some genuinely fascinating things. Um.
A buddy of mine, a great artist and musician here
in landa named Danny Carey Bailey. He if you follow
him on Instagram, just look for Danny Carey Bailey. Um
he he like make it. He'll make iterations of these
things and animate them together to create these kind of
moving you know, like video loops of this super uncanny
(07:39):
not uncanny valley, just uncanny, like you know, fantasy landscapes
and and things that just, like I said, just don't exist.
These objects that look like something oount of a you know,
David Cronenberg kind of body horror kind of stuff, like
really really neat if you kind of know what you're doing.
But that's not what lenses do. What Lens is doing
is essentially mimicking these highly stylized portrait that you know,
(08:01):
folks at say CON's, you know, Comic Con, Dragon Con, whatever,
they set up their booths and this is the kind
of stuff they sell that's kind of like D and
D portraiture, you know, or like like like well, will
you know fan art, you know, whatever it might be.
But these are done maybe using some technology like a
you know, a welcome tablet or whatever. Those than the
new iterations of that is um. But they're using their
(08:23):
their their skills as an artist. They're using a stylist
of some kind, or they're drawing and then scanning them
into computer and then using that to layer and add
additional stuff. Or it's entirely analogue and it's you know,
paint and uh and pen and anchor what have you. Um.
What this Prisma AI by way of the lens app
thing is doing is creating what they're referring to as
(08:43):
magic avatars, which is like biting this whole game, this
whole style that typically you would have a very skilled
artist either do a portrait or like let's say a
character from Game of Thrones or whatever. Um, and you'd
pay good money for these, or they can sell print
of them. You know a lot of times original pieces
are very expensive. There's only one, but if you sell
(09:05):
really high quality like geekly art prints or whatever, you
can sell dozens of them and really make a good
living that way. Um. Again back to Nick, he did
this as well, and he had friends that did it,
but it freaks him out while him also completely fascinating him. Um.
And the reason this is extra sketchy is because it
could potentially completely remove that kind of business from these
(09:29):
individuals who rely on this stuff to keep them going. Um.
Not to mention what this could mean for like say,
corporate art. You know again, a lot of the individuals
get these corporate gigs where they're like doing illustrations or
logos or whatever. And the more this AI stuff progress
is going to become increasingly distinguishable from quote unquote the
real thing um as in done by human And we
(09:53):
know how much corporations love jumping on trends like this
and love doing I mean, they can to remove the
human element because it's something they can't control, and this
will allot on them to keep costs under control. And
at the end of the day, are they really that
concerned with how authentic or bespoke because art is as
long as it kind of gets the job done. Probably not.
(10:14):
It depends on the corporation, right, if they're architectural firm,
or if they're a corporation that is involved with um,
the art world, then they probably do want to have
some things we spoke, but that's that's to your point.
It is probably more an exception to rule. You know. Uh,
this is always a time when people make predictions. And
one thing that's strange about recording in three through the
(10:37):
magic podcast editing is we made a prediction on this
show that is coming to pass. I would say this
lends a conversation. The reason I think it lends itself
to a larger conversation. Whatever no pun left behind is
because um, it's part of this bigger ce change. You
could go to stuff like sas book dot com right with.
(10:59):
The prediction we made was that eventually a I will
have the ability to make bespoke film for you. Put
in your favorite stars or your name or anyone with
enough audio footage, visual footage, and boom, it will make
a movie. I just tried sas book and put in
stuff they don't want you to know a podcast episode,
and they gave us the sentence. The first day of
(11:19):
my trial, the judge, a man named Mr D, asked
me a series of questions about the events surrounding my birth.
He was the first of many I guess who had
been in the room. Weird but coherent and coherent and
weirdly on brand in terms of the voice of the
way we might set up a topic, you know what
I mean. And we also I think we've we've made
no secrets about the fact that even our company has
(11:41):
participated and you know we we we will pilot or
you know, um invest in kind of technology or technological companies,
and we've talked about how we participated in a pilot
program to kind of create um AI versions of our voices.
And the goal there is to make it where we
don't have to do a million iteration and ad reads.
Right this this app or whatever it is, can you know,
(12:03):
create those for us or GEO target them by feeding
We had to feed it like we had to do
a bunch of reads and and feed it this this
voice data. Um we we can also translate into a
bunch of languages and make us sound like we speak
those languages, but imperfectly perfectly. If you know Spanish, the
idioms are off, well, of course they're gonna be off
(12:24):
because we're making references and speaking in parlance that is
that is very specifically American, you know, slang and all
that stuff. And without a really robust AI they can
kind of you know, kind of flip those things and
and uh tetris them into a different format. It's gonna
be weird. You know. It might get the job done
and sound to the untrained ear like, okay, that's legit,
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but if you're really a native Spanish speaker, it's gonna
be super awkward. And uh it required us to kind
of go back to the drawer. Are you know, bosses
and whomever is kind of you know, behind the scenes
of this stuff to go back to the drawing board
and figure you're out ways to make that stuff more unbelievable.
Um So, so what exactly is Lensa doing and how
long has it been around. It's surprisingly it's been around
(13:09):
since two thousand and eighteen, they say. The company says,
there's a really good Mashable article by Mera uh nov
lock Up from earlier this month about this and um
one thing that you could also do. It's interesting in
this is you can change your gender. You can you
can change you can put in you know, female, male
or other, which I'm not sure kind of what that
(13:30):
encompasses that I didn't do that, but I have seen
you know, friends who are in the trans community, you know,
doing it. For their gender of choice and making these
like anime elaborate like God, I wish I was that
I looked like that, you know, And and that's the
case for you know, any gender. It's all very hyper
um stylized and hyper kind of like hot, you know. No,
(13:54):
you said you had to upload like ten or more. Yeah,
what does the company do with those images and the
like face data that they create? You have the yeah, yeah,
And the thing is, though, I mean, you could make
the argument that it doesn't need you to give it
to them directly. We know about these scrapers and things,
(14:16):
you know, how much information we just willingly to shove
out onto the internet. Um, if you google any of
our names, you're gonna find probably about ten pictures easily,
you know that could be used to feed this machine.
Maybe because we're public, you know whatever, figures for lack
of a better way of describing it, maybe there's more
than an average person. But honestly, even an average person,
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Facebook isn't like private exactly unless you go through a
lot of steps to to completely make it private. And
even then, I am pretty skeptical as to you know this,
these things not being available to the right kind of scraper,
which is just an app that goes and just gathers, gathers,
gathers all this available data images, um little whatever tidbits
(14:58):
off the internet. Right Yeah, I'd like to also shout
out uh the Australian artist Kim Lutwiler. I believe she's
been making rounds in the Guardian because she had and
several science outfits. She had seen the styles of artists
in her community and her own style being used heavily
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and lends a portraits. And the question is are those
artists being compensated? The answer is is no. And it's
so insidious, man. It goes back to like my Space
quizzes and Facebook quizzes, people are obsessively fascinated with themselves, right,
tell me more about me, show me more about myself.
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There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but it tricks people
into giving away things that they might not have given
away if they had, you know, less obtuse terms of
service or clear explanations. And as you pointed out, we're
already a bridge too far, we I. It's the equivalent
of having face tattoos, you know, we have. We have
(16:03):
irreparably entered the public sphere. For better or worse, you know,
so learn from learn from us, right, Yeah, And to
to the previous point about the corporate side of this thing,
we know AI is being used to generate kind of
stock images. You know. Um, that's a really great use
of this. Instead of having to set up a photo shoot,
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you can just you know, use this data that people
are feeding you to create guy with golf club, you know,
and cup of coffee or whatever it might be that
you need. And then it's gonna be a lot cheaper
than having to license like a Getty image or even
like what shutter stock or any of these kind of
like you know, um uh, subscription based services where you
can use these images, and there are terms of services
(16:45):
that you you know, have to stick to in terms
of how you can use it in commercial work or
what blah blah blah whatever. So lends A claims they
don't retain this face data. Um, but you know we've
heard that for And there is an email privacy at
lensa dash ai dot com where you can request they
(17:08):
delete all your personal data. But it is kind of
that like opt out thing again as opposed to giving permission. Um.
But it's that shiny new object that makes everyone so excited.
They don't bother reading the terms of use because they
want their pretty picture, you know, they want their magic
avatar or whatever. Um and Lessens made no mistake at
(17:30):
the very least, even if they're not retaining our actual data.
We are training their AI. We are training this algorithm
that they have to be the best at this because
the more data you feed these things, that's how it works.
That's why it was such a big deal, like in
one of the Batman movies where they turned every cell
phone in the world into a microphone or something like that.
(17:52):
And yeah, and that's what we also here get and
and worry about with things like alexa um that it's
when it's listening and what happens to that data, whether
it retains that are not in some sort of permanent way.
You are training it to be better to do, to
be a better AI. UM And back to Nick again.
Nick does a lot of art for the hip hop
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group Run the Jewels, and when he first got mid Journey,
he typed in like Killer Mike animated portrait or Killer
Mike kind of start whatever you I don't remember, I
don't know the exact text, but when it spit out
looked a hell of a lot like one of Nick's pieces,
which exists on the internet, um, you know, in marketing
materials for Run the Jewels. So it is using the
(18:34):
work of artists that already is out there to feed
this algorithm, and it is using our faces, you know,
to to to create a better algorithm to make kind
of fake faces. And you said you have to pay
for this opera. It's free. That's the beauty of it, mean,
the duty in terms of on their end, yeah, because
it looks so good, they figured, well, hell we can,
(18:55):
we can convince people to pay a couple of bucks
for this. I sure did. I paid for it three time.
Is one for myself, one for my kid, and one
from my h my kid's mom. So they are associating
your face with an account with a credit card, likely
that you use the thing. Like I said, I'm a big,
giant sucker. Which is why I think I'm the perfect
(19:16):
person to bring the story, you know, to you, because
I was had. And again I've I've mentioned this in
the past, like do I really care that much? I
think I'm maybe starting to a little more now that
I understand kind of more the big picture of this
and how my my face or my kid's face or
some fact similar of it could end up in an
advertisement without my permission or without any um, you know,
(19:41):
legal recourse. Uh, And that's the future we're heading towards.
But also, like, just by virtue of being on the Internet,
I think these algorithms are getting fed whether we you know,
do it willingly or not. So it's sort of like
a you know, dann if you do danned if you
don't kind of situations. So why not just get the
pretty picture? But may me I'm being naive there, but
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I do, I do understand the future we're heading for.
I just would like, do I really have a choice?
So why not just enjoy the ride? I guess. So
lots more to come with this kind of tech and
uh the lens app and whatever the next gen version
of it might be. And UM starting to see the
way advertising starts to kind of evolve because of these algorithms.
Because I don't want to freak us out and do
(20:22):
it too quickly, but it's it's inevitable. So let's take
a quick break. Here a word from our sponsor, UM,
possibly with robot voices, because that's definitely a thing that's
being used in ad reads nowadays too, by the way, Uh,
and you can usually sort of tell, but it's gonna
come a point where you can't, and then we'll be back.
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All right, we're back, and we're gonna talk about fire
really quickly. I'm doing the super fast guys. Uh. Speaking
of fire, I want to call out my friend Robert
Jabrie Brown uh slash uh st x pre slash Prefontaine slash.
There's so many ways you might know him on the
the old Internet. Just want to shout him out really quickly.
(21:05):
He had a video come out for a new song
not long ago. I just want everyone who's out there
to search YouTube for Robert Jabris r O B E
R T J A B R E. Search for I'm
capital I apostrophe M. Check out that video. It's just
one of the coolest songs I've heard him doing a
long time. He's gonna He's an incredible artist who creates music.
(21:28):
Um oh, left hand is good too, that's all. He's
got a ton of great music out there. Search Robert Jabris.
He also did a couple of videos that you had
something to do with Matt. There's one called stuff that
he did with beats there with participation from one of
my favorite kind of electronic weird jazzy sample head guys
named a'man Tobin for Ninja tune. Um. And it's a
(21:51):
really badass Kung Fu theme video that you and your
your homies had a big, big hand in. Yes, Chandler Maze,
Tyler Clang, Casey Pigram and right Elephant. Anyway, just shouting
out you Robert Debris. Uh, everybody go check him out. Okay,
here we go now, speaking of other fires, massive fires,
there was one in the neighborhood of Red Hook in Brooklyn,
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New York. I wasn't really sure where this was, guys,
so I had to go to Google Maps. I posted
a link in there if you want to check it out. Um.
This is a huge, huge warehouse on Columbia Street. And
one of the things that this warehouse houses, because it's
not this isn't the only thing in that warehouse, but
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one of the things that it houses is the eerie
basin auto pound. Guys, when is the last time you
remember hearing the phrase going too the pound or taking
You're gonna take a car to the pound, or you
gotta go to the pound? Right in pounding a car right.
Uh yeah, this is uh just for perspective on the
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road a while back for recorded and on a video
all with you, Matt, where I said, did you hear
about the fire? And um, it's it's strange because we
are constantly in contact about things that go on and
this sent me down a rabbit hole instantly. Yeah, it was.
(23:17):
It was a bummer to be on the rest of
the call. And uh, you know, I'm I'm I'm a
pretty great listener, but I was uphill for that one. Well,
nobody on that call, most of whom were in New
York by the way and in Manhattan, had heard about
this fire, had seen this fire. Even though the blaze
was so huge, A lot of New Yorkers who did
get to see the black smoke arising from Red Hook
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in that area over in Brooklyn, they thought it had
started on Manhattan because there was so much black smoke
just pouring over the area. Well, here's why this fire
is important, why we're talking about it. This facility, this
pound held a lot of evidence, including cars like you
would you know, get impounded for that kind of evidence,
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other vehicles. It also held a ton of DNA evidence,
historical NYPD DNA evidence. Um, oh yeah, decades and decades
and it was all just in this huge warehouse stored
away and when this fire occurred. This information is coming
from December two, by the way, so that's that's when
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the fire occurred. And um that's that's the best information
we have right now. There haven't been a ton of
updates about this. All the news was just trying to
assess how much damage was done to you know, that
store of DNA and that store of evidence that could
potentially in some way affect a new case or a
(24:45):
current case, but mostly it's just affecting older cases, especially
cold cases, and that doesn't bode well for you know,
New Yorkers or law enforcement in general. It's terrible too,
because you know, this is coming on the heels of
the ongoing COVID pandemic, right or whatever new diseases will
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get published in three So the judicial system already slowed
to a crawl, right even so, you know, the backlog
problem has increased by an order of magnitude. But uh, Matt,
I think I'm speaking for a lot of our fellow
conspiracy realists here when we say, what's the official explanation
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for the fire, and do you think it is legit? Well,
you know, I maybe offer right now because I'm speaking
to you from information from December. At that time, it
was unknown what sparked the fire. There is one section
of this huge warehouse that did collapse or did fall
The top fell in, and underneath that section there were
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a bunch of um if they call him e bikes,
I'm assuming it's the kind of like bikes you can rent,
you know, around the city that get recharged and everything. Um,
they're unsure if that had anything to do with it.
There's so Marias perhaps Yeah, there's a potential for that, right. Um,
there was so much combustible material within that large warehouse
(26:13):
that they were unsure at the time what started it.
There were six first responders and two civilians that got
hurt trying to fight this thing and get away from
this fire. Um. So it was really big and very
hot obviously. Um, so it's just unknown. Do you have
a newer information. Uh, we hopefully we will have newer
(26:35):
information by the time this comes out, but we really
don't know. One thing that stood out to me, Matt
after again, I learned this from you. Uh, they learned
from watching you um, I read in uh, I read
a statement from the Arson and Explosions squads. Some of
those first responders you're talking about, uh, and the the
(26:58):
firefighter chief, a guy named John Hodgens, said the fire
is likely to burn for a few days. Yeah, when
it was occurring. Bit of a las fair attitude to
take towards a structure fire in such a densely populated city.
Oh yeah, Well, the good I mean, the only good
thing is that it's on the waterfront. When it comes
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to you know, endangering a lot of other human beings.
There are a lot of businesses that exist there, like
on a it almost looks like a pier in a
couple of areas or just right on you know the
water there. Um, those were probably in danger. The NYPD
Chief Joseph Majori said, this is a very serious and
damaging fire. We don't know the magnitude until we see
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the invoice to see what was in there and see
what we can salvage. So it's literally like, oh man,
we because this was all happening in the moment, we
got to look back see the inventory and then we'll
figure out how much of it is lost. Because they
were saying that most of the contents within are probably
damaged at least damaged, right right, Yeah, and there was
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also this ongoing, uh, concern about people on motorbikes. Right,
so a lot of a lot of dirt bikes got confiscated.
A t V s um. Yeah, it's just it instantly sets.
It could totally be um and innocuous, accidental and tragic fire.
But also we without alleging conspiracy at this point, we
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have to say it, Uh, there are a couple of
people who are probably going to get away with some stuff,
now right, Well, I was gonna ask Matt, I'm picturing,
you know, and when I'm thinking about these samples being
stored some sort of cryogenic you know, warehouse of like
you know, like like dry ice steam kind of share
(28:48):
lock kind of sitch, I'm assuming that's completely You're you're
taught each one of not each one of these things.
The evidence was stored in these big cardboard containers. They
refer to them as cardboard barrels, which I just don't
really like that description, but their their car cardboard containers
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of some sort. And when there's fire and you've got cardboard, yeah,
it becomes fuel and the batteries and uh, any gas
in the tanks of some of these bikes, which of
which they're hundreds and hundreds. Also, no sprinklers, is that
is am I to be told there are no sprinklers here.
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That is a little weird. It's a huge warehouse. You
think there'll be some kind of fire prevention system, right,
you do think that's code. Other kinds of evidence in
here too, though, right, Like this is like essentially like
a giant you know, evidence storage facility, like the kind
of breaking bad that they destroyed with magnets, you know
what I mean. So it would be bagged up guns,
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you know, any other kind of photographic evidence like things
like that, like all sorts, not just d n A.
It's like the layer of a dragon that collects evidence
instead of gold. But but just keep in mind most
of it, as you thinking about what you said, Ben,
somebody's gonna get away with it. Most of this stuff
is from twenty thirty years ago, most of it, right,
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not all right, Um, It's definitely a place where evidence
goes to just sit and stay. It's not the active
stuff that would probably be at a prec precinct somewhere.
Last interruption, I swear, is there no good way to
quote unquote back up DNA evidence. Do you literally have
to have the material? You can't like have a record
that it existed and that be enough. You have to
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have the stuff it could be I guess I I
don't know how that would work in a trial. Like
if you just said, I'm just wondering a piece of
paper that said, here's the d NA, here's a picture
of what it looks like. Uh, here's a picture of
years ago, even still be viable to test again, would
it still have all the juice that you need? It's
(30:59):
a good question. I mean, we know that there is
the capacity to store digital uh data wait in d
n A. That's something a little bit different. But I wonder,
you know, given the technological lag that a lot of
authorities face and right the backlogs, the lag they might
not have, you know, the bleeding edge testing and storage techniques,
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um and which is not a ding on them. You know,
I'm sure that everybody working in that capacity wants the latest, safest,
most accurate, reliable stuff, but sometimes the budget is just
not there, and like maybe the FBI has it, but
not necessarily the NYPD. Right, Yeah, guys, it just made
me think I wonder why this doesn't happen more And
(31:43):
this is a kind of a scary thought to me,
but why don't evidence storages get attacked more often by
somebody who's like the associates of someone who's going to
prison or a part of a big trial. Like I'm
glad it doesn't have the attacked on Precinct third teen,
you know, where they've got high level you know mob,
you know, people in custody and they literally do a siege,
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you know, on this precinct in New York is a
John Carpenter movie. And again that bit and Breaking Bad
where there's a laptop they need to erase because it's
got you know, video on it, and that that was
honestly the first time I'd ever seen and I was like, yeah,
I saw the same I saw the same thing. I
was like, how does this not happen more often? It's
kind of genius. Well, they also, I mean, you're talking
(32:28):
about heavy hitters right in that regard, So I imagine
the evidence is stored accordingly, and let's be honest, sometimes
stuff disappears. That is also true. Sometimes it's a conspiracy.
Sometimes it's simple human error, right because incompetence can look
like malevolence from far enough away. Uh. I just think
(32:51):
a lot of people who would like evidence to be
destroyed probably don't have the means to make it so,
you know. And even if it were inside job, I
think there are systems in place, you know, that monitor
the comings and goings and checkings in and out of
all this kind of stuff that it would be really
hard to completely eliminate any evidence of the thing being removed,
(33:13):
short of blowing up the whole facility. Yeah, no, you're right,
or just setting fire to a bunch of e bikes. Bikes.
Police police headed historic drug bust. They they found a
hundred tons of cocaine. Uh, going to trial. Uh, it
looks like the guys are going up the river for
(33:35):
possession of eight five tons of cocaine. And you know,
by the time it gets to the plea bargain, it's
it's about twenty tons. Still like the Irijuana in India. Obvious, Yeah,
there is. I'm obviously not a cocaine expert. I'm sure
anybody more familiar is like tons. Come on, buddy, I'm
(33:58):
sure it's like less than that right times feels like
hortel stuff. You think that's too much. The movies, they
usually measured in kilos. You know, that's sort of the
base level street amount that it would be a unit
of you know what I mean. Legal drugs have done
so much for Americans understanding of the metric system. What
I mean, I've I've had friends who are drug dealers,
(34:20):
and I've got to say, I think the statutes past
thing can say. I've got to say, you know, there
are a lot of stereotypes. Those guys are great at math,
you know, for sure, for sure? Uh wow, Hey, well, hey,
let's do one reminder and let's go to the next segment.
Whenever you've got video evidence of something, make sure you
make backups and you disperse them. Cool. All right, let's
(34:44):
go check. Cool, let's hear a word from our sponsor,
and we'll be right back. And we've returned. Uh. I'm
gonna have to keep this one super brief because it's
news that made the headlines. I think it will be
a future episode. It opens the door for a lot
(35:06):
of places. So it's a great way to end our
first strange news earlier just just quite recently. Uh, the
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory or lonell l l l uh right,
Um just wait, uh, Little has an outfit called the
(35:28):
National Ignition Facility or NIFF, so little niff uh not
to be confused. Yeah, it was sound cloud er based camp.
Little Niff. Uh. Little Niff just announced that they had
made a huge breakthrough in harnessing controlled nuclear fusion, bringing
(35:49):
the power of the sun into the hands of humans.
How prometheyan right asterix asterick caveat uh so so like
with any story here, um, I don't know about you, guys.
A bunch of people were sending this, uh my way,
you know, what do you make of this? We saw
a post on Here's where it gets Here's where it
gets crazy, and a couple of other places. The big
(36:12):
question is, does this mean that humanity is on the
cusp of limitless clean power, finally finally getting ourselves off
the smack that is fossil fuel? Uh and finally, you know,
um burning fewer things right, which is already kind of
an archaic way to get energy. It just works. The
(36:34):
answer is no, not yet, not yet, if the official
stories are to be believed. In fact, we were talking
a little bit off air that almost as soon as
this news came out a bevy of very principled, somewhat
scandalized experts in nuclear science. We're coming out and saying,
(36:56):
please please stop it with these crazy headlines. We're not
the Jetsons, were not Star Trek yet. Uh. I don't know,
but this is what it made me think of, and
this is why I wanted to bring it to all
of us listening along today without getting too much into
the science, which we absolutely can do in an episode. UM,
(37:16):
technological suppression is real. A that's a given knowing that
is it possible that be something like this was successful already?
Is it possible? Is it plausible? Little Niff? Yeah, So
it's so funny, man, I have I have, I have
(37:38):
pitched work up and my tab from previous and there's
a new record who come out today from Little Simms,
which seems like a Little Niff and Little Sims could
guess in each other's records. Just put that out there. A. Yeah,
but we're talking about the fusion, like, is it possible? Ben?
I'm so sorry? Okay, Yeah, So here's simply put. The
big breakthrough is that UH, using a hundred and ninety
(38:05):
something lasers, they were able to create UH to create
a situation such that more energy was produced than was
put in. Oh, which is real sci fi stuff. But
this doesn't necessarily mean like we've cracked it. Nuclear is
no longer important. You know, we're where we're off the coal,
(38:28):
were off the oil starting tomorrow. Yeah, you're correct, that's
not that's not going to happen. Um the now. This
is not to diminish the amazing science. Yeah exactly, but
but it's um, it's it's like, you know, the right
brothers got got their plane off the ground for a
few seconds of Kittie Hawk, and everybody's very excited, and
(38:51):
their question was when can we fly across the world?
And that took a while. Um, I'm the public to
put the car before the horse, right right. UM. So
I'm wondering if it is possible and that this is
not the first iteration of something like this. But the
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thing that keeps me from going to conspiratorial here is, um,
if you look at it, if you look at the
nuts and bolts have been published, it's a lot. It's
still really expensive to get out to work. This is
not a light switch. We're not We're just not there yet. Uh.
And also, can can fusion ever contribute, I mean, fusion
(39:39):
could contribute to the grid, but could ever really remove
the path dependence that humans have created. I mean, solar
technology improves by leaps and bounds, geothermal, wind, hydropower, Uh,
those are all you know, in many ways they are
location dependent, but they were did a lot of heads
(40:01):
start scientifically in terms of the R and D put
into these right? Yeah, that's a good point, So so
the other big conspiracy. But first, wait, I didn't get
a straight with you guys. Is it possible that there
was technological suppression? No? Man, I don't think before this announced,
(40:23):
yeah it was it possible. Again, it being such a
non deal breaker announcement, I think probably not. I think
they're you know, they're like, hell, yeah, let's let's publish,
you know, because we did a thing. But it's also
not like a game changer yet. So if the game
changer part existed, then sure, But I don't I think
(40:44):
we'd have some loose lipped scientists that would be you know,
speaking out or protesting or who knows, I don't know,
being assassinated. I just I think we gotta I think
we gotta approach this with super cautious optimism because the
Guardian pointed out an article they wrote about this that
you posted. Been about since the nineteen fifties, we've been hearing, oh,
(41:04):
there's a fusion breakthrough right jam tomorrow, and it just
kind of yeah, exactly. It reminds me of the prophecies
thing that colts always have that we talk about, where
you got to move that goalpost every time, because yeah,
it's a good point at least, you know, unlike a
doomsday prophecy um. This is science rights, a real science.
(41:28):
It makes me think about that company we talked about,
or we at least briefly mentioned a little while ago,
the one that's trying to make a fusion piston or
a gun of some sort that would like reaction on
one side, use that energy to start the reaction on
the other side, and then back and forth. But that
sounds like perpetual motion machine materials. Yeah. I UM. When
(41:49):
you talked about the millennial prophecies or doomsday uh, predictions
of cults and religious sex, it made me immediately think,
are these atomic profits which is a bad name, little
niff in the atomic profits and it is now we need,
we need, let's have let's have someone sendative they would
(42:12):
love to love to hear that project. Um, you guys
are raising great points. Also, here's one thing that stood out.
One of the people interviewed or one of the sorry,
one of the people making announcements regarding this did note
that NIFF is working with lasers that are quote, nineteen
eighties technology and acknowledged that the private sector is likely
(42:36):
ahead of them in some regard. And whenever we think
of tech suppression, you know, we always think of like
the men in black, right, the top men of Indiana Jones,
you know, having cell phones back in the seventies, which
story for a different day. But um, my last conspiracy.
I wanted to ask you guys before we before we
wrap and move on big Oil, you think they do?
(43:00):
You think they're sweating this at all. They're not stoked.
They're not stoked like a coal fire there. It is. No,
It's just I I don't know, because those corporations are
able to function like state level actors in some regards.
So I wonder if I'm sure there eyes on this research,
(43:24):
of course, but I wonder if they're um big enough
or inclined enough to take ownership of it right like
sort of how R. J. Reynolds and tobacco companies kind
of seamlessly shifted into uh smoking cessation tools. They called them, right,
So is is big oil um going to be able
(43:48):
to conspire or would they? Would they? Would they even care?
I mean, if you're very worried about climate change, the
bad news about this fusion stuff is it's not going
to get across the finish line in time for all
those terrible um predictions. What is it in the podcast?
Should we be an oil company? Let's do a little
(44:10):
late to the market. That's a point. Yeah, well we'll
have to stick with a little niff in the topic profit.
So I don't want to say too much yet because
I really do feel this would be an excellent future episode.
And you know what, maya culpa on our end if
by the time this comes out, diffusion is a thing
(44:31):
and it's just accelerated very quickly and you're listening to
this on your fusion powered iPhone in some regard, then
in that case you were right. But I feel like
it's a safe bet to say fusion has a ways
to go. Remember that bit from I think it was
Back to the Future too, or maybe no, it's the
end of Back to the Future. One I think. I
think when it like kind of dovetails into two where
(44:51):
he comes back from the future, which is for the
line back to the Future comes from and he's got
a mr fusion in in the in the DeLorean that
he's feeding whatever garbage too, and that's you know, the
next level version of the the flex capacitor, just biomass.
That also reminds me of years and years ago when uh,
(45:12):
some research came out from Japan where they had plasma
uh like this plasma garbage thing basically that you could
throw anything into it would vaporize it and it would
create energy, and then we never heard about it again.
Can we talk about that with Marshall Brain? Yes? We did, yeah,
in a in a in a recent classic or if
(45:35):
it's not recent, it's coming very soon. No, Bennet, I
talked about that with Marshall and yeah, dude, doctor Brain.
You can't call him doctor because he refuses to get
a degree. We talked about that, but most if you're listening,
were being should you should bring Marshall and Chris Cogswell
(45:55):
back and we should uh talk about nuclear fusion. Yeah,
we should also do it over pizza or something. I'm
saying needing today. Uh, folks, we hope this finds you well.
We can't wait to hear your thoughts. Lends the larger
move of a I and uh, what's what's happening behind
(46:17):
these evidence fires? Will there be a real cause determined? Uh?
And of course nuclear fusion? What do you think how
long have they known? If you want to be conspiratorial? Uh, well,
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