October 9, 2024 • 40 mins
We all love a snack while we watch a movie so Clairsy & Lisa opened the phones and text line to ask what’s your favourite snack to pair with a movie.
In The Shaw Report, Lisa will tell you about Variety’s definitive list of the top 100 Horror films of all time.
The Apprentice is a new movie about the early days of Donald Trump’s life which stars Sebastian Stan who you’ll know from the Marvel movies. Ben O’Shea has been to see it and told Clairsy & Lisa what he thought of it.
Today on Clairsy & Lisa’s continuing series of How To Make It In WA, they spoke to Angela Duncan who is works in wardrobe on TV and movie sets.
Tim Winton has a brand new book which has hit the shelves called Juice. He called Clairsy & Lisa to tell them all about it.
Lisa told Clairsy about how the new AI technology is going to be used at Wimbledon next year and she is horrified about it.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Power by the radio app from ninety six air VM
to where You're listening today This is Clezy and Lisa's podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Coming up on the podcast WHI took calls on your
favorite snack, put your pair with a movie, and.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Speaking of movies, ben O'Shea reviewed The Apprentice and.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Talking movies again.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Angela Duncan spoke costumes on how to Make It in
wa and.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Funnily enough, still on movies, Variety has come out with
its list of the top one hundred horror flicks of
all time.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Pretty much a pair of Spielberg's We thought We talked
about movies today, not just about the movies themselves, but
about what you eat at the movies. This has been
a hot topic on Reddit of what food you pair
with a movie?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Well, I have a very nice TV for the purpose
of being able to watch movies at home with wine
and cheese.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Wine and cheese is your go to? Yea? Yeah? Do
you like popcorn? Person?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You know, one thing I don't really love is the
gold class food in the dark when it's a bit
sometimes a bit and you know, when you can't see
what you're reading.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You really don't like eating at the cinema. Yeah, not
where I'm Yeah, that's why I like to.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Do it at home.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You've got comfort, You've got all the creature comforts and all,
and go to the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yeah, everyone.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You haven't to worry that I'm going to miss a
good bit. You know that bowl of stuff crap, you
stop it over the toilet. You can do whatever. You
can make noise with a noisy packet if you want to.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
No one goes.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, but sometimes in the gold class the lights go down.
I really want to see what I'm eating, and yeah,
that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
But of course you would be eating because you wouldn't
be able to go two and a half hours without.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I'm eating now thinking about talking about it, you are,
I reckon that the movies. For me, it's more teasers
and I don't quite know why, but it's easy to
finish the packet before the movie actually starts. Watch the
trailer cinema ads.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Do you like a box? Like a box it's not
as noisy as well, exactly made for cinema eating.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, or you're waiting if you've still got some left
at the start of the movie, then you're waiting for
a loud bit because if it's quite in a little
bit whispered dialogue, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
More teasers were always I mean they're classic. It's a
classic choice. But unfortunately, ever since peanut m and m's
were invented, I've had to break up with maltesers.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah really, yeah, it was peanut m and ms win
out every say to the maltess it's me, not you.
It's yeah. Yeah, it's tough, isn't it. It's you. You
don't have a peanut in.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Your Yeah, don't worry, will be working on that.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I'm surprised combining everything the malt facked up. Don't spoil
it and it's in Westminster. What is the movie snack
you like to pair with your movie?
Speaker 5 (02:25):
I like popcorn with of ice in Sugar's got a
bit of a sweet too, yes, and so the lolliglobbled
blist bonds are all caramel.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
And that's taking things to the top of it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Can you last very long into the movie with those?
And when you get your popcorn going with the with
the dust on top, can I laugh?
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Well, you just make sure it doesn't get on you
if you're just a sly it just really slightly dusted
before and then you can eat it and yummy.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I can't think.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
What the brand is, but it's in a green packet.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
You'll know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
In it that they do that slightly salty and sweet,
slightly sweet, something salty.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
It's just the perfect combination of the two.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
A little bit of salt next time.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, nice, a little bit of sualt and sweet. Yeah,
because your sense is go to w Dutch clear, good
morning and welcome.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Good morning, Claire. You're pairing for a movie. What's your
food for me?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
And definite class is your packet of popcorn?
Speaker 6 (03:41):
And then in the popcorn all around?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Okay, okay, right, and then it's like a lucky dip
which you're getting mixed into one.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Interesting, Thanks Claire, thank you. On the xt line, Craig
says from Singleton says, I like to sneak in a
banana and a couple of plumps.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Oh okay, really, I'm not sure how much to react
to that.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
David in ridgewoods says, cookies and cream, chalk bomb and
a bag of barbecue flavor chips.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
That's noisy, though, that is very noisy. But you might
be at home, yeah, quite possibly.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, but if you're going to movies, I mean, some
people do pick the quietest dialogue time to open up
the packet.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Don't they They do?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Russell Russell Russell. Sorry, it's just eating a choc bomb.
Were read the movies. It's like old school, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I didn't know there was a Cookies and Cream chok boond.
I don't need to be getting back to the movies
more often, obviously. Yeah, well you're in your cheese and
David and Ridgewoods said cookies and Cream choked.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Oh really, I didn't know they worked on the varieties.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Darren and Port Kennedy said, Grace's Crazy Donuts in forest Field. Okay,
the best doughnuts in Australia. Makes Krispy Cremes taste like cardboard.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I don't get the.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Krispy Kremes fuss anyway, rather just a cinnamon ring hot doughnut.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Okay from the Royal Show. Well, they're getting big time
thumbs up around here. Let's go to buy for Gid
Jess Morning guy.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
What is it? What do you get into?
Speaker 7 (05:13):
Well, there's nothing worse than running out of, you know,
your ultimate snack half way through the movie. So I
found a family size bag of playing eminem get me through.
It's not I'll probably feel sick and have even.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Some to take home.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So even if it's a scorse three hour job, you're
you're okay, lasting family.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Family. It depends on the time.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, and then yeah, oh that you'd be there for
a while. Do you ever go to the variety pack?
Speaker 7 (05:49):
No, I did you? Maltese's used to be my goal
go through. Yeah, it just dissolved se quickly in the mouth.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
And yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Quite like the variety pack of Eminem's because sometimes I
although the peanut eminem for me is king, I sometimes
can't decide whether I want the crunchy one or the
or the original.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah, okay, so always wondering. Thanks, it's both angry John
in Como, Hello John, guys, how are you? What are
you eating at the movies?
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Okay, so unlikely. So I'd like to sit at home
in front of the big TV with my streaming services. Yes, sure,
that way I can have really what I want. So
it's usually some really nice Italian cold cats, like your
studio and your coupar and your suppresso Solami. Yes, it's
really nice season and like some.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
Saff oh, Yeskerina, And then of course that's got to
all be washed down with some really nice Neialian Why.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yes, you like me, John, are the same?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Yeah, to finish of some really nice, intense dark sookers.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Oh my god, we are.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Specifically anything with some postage and goes there.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Really well yeah right, yes, that is movie of Championship.
That is dinner. Well, it's almost it's so good, John.
The movie that really doesn't matter now had all the
food groups and that sounds like a date on the Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Thanks John, that's my afternoon planned.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I think you can't concentrate now. I can see your
eyes over Oh now you're salivating.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
We're talking about your snack.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
You like to have the movies Matt and Edgewater says,
I'm in my thirties right still by a party pack
of lollies and empty them into a slushy. Really, they
rock hard and last the whole movie into a slushy
or into a slushy cup.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I'm not sure what, because wouldn't they go soggy and slushy?
I would have thought. So it's obviously got the science.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Working, yes, and there is a science to it, no doubt.
David in eastweek Park says, ice cream and rock salt.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Okay is a combat of salty, caramel y ice cream, whiler,
A lot more things, a lot more products. Now I
have the salt and sugar hit that.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Name and Ben in Cloisters is coming to watch a
movie with me and John and como because he's in
his theater room at home and a comfortable recliner with
a bar fridge meters away, either a nice chraz with
a cheese platter or a G and T.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
It's got everything you need. What throuple that would be? Yes,
let's go to one Daniel Good all the way? Oh yeah, peanut,
even though I'm allergic to painnuts, Okay, I'm going to say,
we're worried about it. It's a papent. You've got to
(09:01):
take an EpiPen with your.
Speaker 9 (09:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Also people using what they're doing.
Speaker 10 (09:08):
But yeah, great to flick with Ben Oshe Good morning,
Good morning, guys.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Certain presidential hopeful tried very hard to make sure this
movie didn't come out before the election.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
It's probably the worst movie. It's probably the worst movie,
but yes for her radio. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (09:35):
So, former President Donald Trump tried to block this movie
The Apprentice, which is about the early period of his
life in the late nineteen seventies, early nineteen eighties in
New York. Before he was the Donald, he was young
Donald learning the ropes of business, very much in the
shadow of his old man who didn't let him do anything.
(09:57):
And so this movie is about how Donald Trump became
Donald Trump, and it stars Sebastian stan as Trump, and
so a lot of people I think we're a little
bit surprised by that casting choice. Initially, sure, Sebastian Standy
played the Winter Soldier, he played Tommy, Tommy, he was fantastic.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yeah, doesn't he doesn't look anything like Donald Trump.
Speaker 11 (10:20):
No, and in some of the some of the trailers,
he's not really doing the kind of classic mannerisms. But
the one of the really best things about this movie
is as it unfolds, as he kind of becomes more
like the Trump we know today, Sebastian Stands performance actually
becomes more Trumpian. Well that's if that's a verb, it works,
(10:44):
and so that's that's kind of cool to see. But
the other interesting thing about this film, so as it
kind of tries to unpack how Trump became the way
he is, it's like, so these days, of course, Trump says,
you know, I'm the greatest businessman in the world. Probably
never been a better business person than me. I know business.
I've done so many deals. So he's always he's always
(11:04):
talking it up, right, always talking up how much he knows.
But no one's born with that knowledge. You learn it.
And so this movie tries to answer who did he
learn it from? And it probably wasn't his dad. He
obviously learned a lot from his dad, but this film
pitches the idea that he learned pretty much everything from
this Manhattan lawyer who was very prominent at the time
called Roy Cone, who's played by successions Jeremy Strong.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 11 (11:28):
He was just so phenomenal and this role is incredible,
Like he's such a scene stealer and it's interesting watching
them interact. So roy Cone basically takes Trump under his
wing and says, look, you know, like I see potentially
new kid. I also see a beautiful, lush head of
golden hair. Nothing will ever happen to that. So I'm
(11:50):
going to I'm going to basically introduce you to the
big players. I'm going to get you out of any
sticky messes. I'm going to make you legal troubles go away.
Because at the time, the Trumpel family was facing a
federal lawsuit about their illegal and potentially racist rental practices
in their apartment. Bilitis they weren't renting to people of color,
which is something that happened in real life. And so
(12:11):
Roy Cone is the one who got them out of
the way of that issue by essentially blackmailing the district attorney.
And so Roy Coney pretty dodgy guy, but very very accomplished.
So and it goes to the details of you know,
like things like basically everything that Trump was talking about
in the Art of the Deal, you know, all of
his kind of trademark things like rule number one, attack
(12:32):
attack attack, rule number two you never admit anything, and
rule number two three you never accept defeat. Those kind
of you know, the truth is what you make of it.
All of those things that we associate with Trump now
came from Roy Cone, and so that's quite interesting to watch.
And it also shows his marriage to Ivana, who's played
by Maria from Borax exactly, brilliant, exactly, and she's a
(12:57):
great Ivana. I don't know if she really looks that
much like Avanna, but I think she does a great
job of portraying what we know of Avana. But when
you're watching it, you think to yourself, what was it
about this film that Trump hated that he was trying to.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Block, yeah, right, damage him what he.
Speaker 11 (13:14):
Thought would damage him in his run to the White House.
And there's one scene that depicts Trump a sexual assault
of Evana, which she said happened in real life. He's
denied that it ever happened. And so you look at
that and you go, is that what he was worried about?
Is it that scene he was worried about. I don't
think so. I think what he was worried about is
this idea that the film paints him as he was
very ambitious, but pretty green, naive guy who was taught
(13:39):
everything he knew by someone else. Basically stole those ideas
and stabbed his mentor in the back. And I don't
think he liked the idea that he was ever weak
and he was ever not an expert, that he was
ever not born to be this entrepreneurial genius, because he
does come across as a bloke who dodgers financial ruin
over and over again by basically can a lot of bs.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I think he just didn't want to be movie fodder. Yeah,
the lead up to the election and in history. I
didn't want to hide any kind of weaknesses, that's right.
Speaker 11 (14:10):
And so the film, the film, I wouldn't say it
treats Trump sympathetically, but it does acknowledge that there is
some humanity there, you know there maybe some people don't
associate with him now and some of his behavior, but
then as the film goes, that kind of humanity disappears
as he becomes you know, this sort of ego maye.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
And fast forwarding obviously part way past the movie's time
into when he was president, didn't he and Roy Cone
end up falling out?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Didn't before it was on his staff?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
And then so there's a second part to this movie
that we hope to see another time.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I guess, well, I don't know if.
Speaker 11 (14:48):
I don't know if anyone will ever be game enough
to make another Trump movie after the legal challenges of
this one. So there's a lot, there's a lot to
unpack it. I think they're the positives. The negatives about
this film is it's a real kind of style of
a absence situation. They make it look like an old
VHS videotape, and sometimes it's a bit overcooked. It's like, okay,
we get it set in the past. It doesn't need
(15:08):
to look like that. And you know some of the
other issues is it feels like box ticking at a time.
It's like, do you need like it's an origin story, right,
but you don't need the origin of his Brioni suits.
You don't need the origin of him drinking diet coke.
You don't need the origin of you know, every single
little detail of Trump's life. Now, you don't need it packaged.
(15:31):
Band explained as if the audience is an idiot. So
there's that makes it a bit superficial when it probably
could have got a bit deeper to try and understand
why some of these things happened, as opposed to you know,
he had a suit fitting with roy Cone one day
and Royce said, why don't you try a Brioni suit.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
It's like product place. But it does feel like it
does feel like that.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Then does it touch on the fact that you know,
they reckon that Trump really doesn't have quite as much
money as you make care It was talking up and
he did his best to spend all that.
Speaker 11 (15:57):
He talks about his debt right like it talks about
how much debt he racked up with all these all
these projects, and how he was always going to other
people saying, oh, look, i'll give you this great opportunity
if you can give me some equity to pay off
the debt to these guys, right, and then to the
next group says, well, i'll give you something special if
i'll pay off those guys. So he's always kind of
in the in the hole to somebody for huge amounts
of money. He just manages to always just stay one
(16:20):
step ahead of the creditors, but not always by you know,
the greatest business acumen.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
But yeah, well that's all we know about. All right.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Well, how many Sebastian didn't need the prosthesis for this one?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Are you giving a guest? I'm going to give it three?
Very good? All right? Interesting time, we were exactly good.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Thanks many more clear more Lisa, More podcasts soon, Cleary
and Lisa's how It's to Make gest in w An,
I'll make you a.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Start continuing our series about our burgeoning state of our
movie and film industry. Right now, today we have someone
from the world of wardrobe and costumes, Angela Duncan, is
with us. Hello Angela, Hello, so wardrobe costumes. I mean
one and the same. I imagine the clothing department you
(17:14):
dress these people. We do, and yes, we like to
be referred to as costume.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Costume costume department.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Okay, So when you would be I guess required very
early in the shoot for something, you'd have to sort
out everybody's individual Look.
Speaker 9 (17:34):
Well, there's different members of the costume department.
Speaker 12 (17:37):
Normally the costume designer and the supervisor sort of start
in pre and my job that I have done mostly
in my life is a standby, So I kind of
come on just before filming.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
A lot of work has done before I arrive.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Okay.
Speaker 12 (17:55):
Then when I start, I break down a script yep,
and then I'm sort of hand a lot of the
costumes that have been decided at that point.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Okay, right, right, How did you get into this line
of work? Ansel it fast?
Speaker 11 (18:08):
Right?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Okay?
Speaker 12 (18:10):
And just from there I did a secondment on men
from Snow River in Melbourne and just went from there.
Speaker 9 (18:16):
Really right?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Have you done stage stuff as well? Or is it
mostly TV and film?
Speaker 9 (18:22):
Very small amount of stage?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, because I guess that would be a whole different
animal too that you're dealing with there.
Speaker 9 (18:28):
It is, Yeah, just something I didn't gravitate to.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I guess right, what are some of the things that
you've worked on recently. I believe you worked on the
Surfer with Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 9 (18:39):
I did.
Speaker 12 (18:40):
I'm lucky enough with what I do that I can
sort of come in and out of productions, not sort
of work the whole thing, So I've done a bit
of that recently. It's quite good and convenient when you
have kids. A lot of my CV is in my
twentiesho I had children. I love traveling, so that's what
(19:02):
I did. I used to take jobs all over the country,
different you know. I worked in London, different parts of
the world, so I could go exploring and work.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Job.
Speaker 12 (19:12):
Yeah, when you have kids, it kind of changes the
ball game a bit. So I'm a bit more settled
now and a bit more choosy. I guess, as we know,
we don't have studios.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Here, so we're going to This is why you must
be so excited about what's happening in w Way in
this industry.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
Definitely.
Speaker 12 (19:34):
I mean to have work in Perth is a huge
plus four something Like me, I'm always somebody that can
pack up my bags and go and work three months
up north or south that kind of thing.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
Well, I mean, I guess I could. I just kind
of choose not.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
To to here.
Speaker 9 (19:52):
Yeah, so you know, to work in Perth. It's the
stability is good.
Speaker 12 (19:58):
Yeah, just opens up a lot more doors for I
guess people who may not be able to drop everything
and not everyone can.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
And like you said, different stages of your life, you
still want to stay in it, but you're in a
different stage.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
So yeah, having that flexibility is awesome.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Had to pick and choose, Hey, Angela, over the years,
have there been Is it unusual being on a set
and there's a difficult there's an issue, something's broken or whatever,
and you're there at three o'clock stitching or working on
something for running repairs for a shoot the next morning.
Speaker 12 (20:27):
That happens all the time. Yea, And I think that's
sort of you know, the difference between not having studios
and having studios. Sometimes you will come across a problem
on a beach or in the desert that's remote and
a shoe's broken or those kind of things, and you're
left there with very limited things you can do to
(20:50):
fix the problem. It's kind of nice being in a
studio where you know there's a whole worker room behind you,
and you've got glues and tapes and all sorts of
things that can help you out to.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
You know, save the day at least, I said mcgivey.
Got to have a pretty important kit with you.
Speaker 12 (21:07):
You do, and sometimes, you know, that's very limited when
you're in a very remote spot, you know, where you
can only take what you can take. So I quite
like the safety of the studios and having a costume
department there with lots of things. I think that's going
to be great.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
What about dealing with some stars, I mean you are
putting them in there what they're wearing, and of course
that can be a very personal thing. Do you ever
get a bit of pushback from them on oh I
don't want to wear that, or you know, my character
wouldn't wear.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
That, say to you, Yeah, that happens a lot, so
you've got to deal with that.
Speaker 9 (21:45):
Yep.
Speaker 12 (21:45):
Sometimes you have just have different ideas, you know, sometimes
they might see the character in a different way, and yeah,
there's there's always a compromise. And you know, it's great
when you get handed of an actor that would just
do exactly everything.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, Sam Neil, imagine Samuel pushing back.
Speaker 12 (22:05):
I don't think you can play I mean, yeah, it's
you know, everybody's different, and at the end of the day,
they are playing a character. Some people, you know, get
confused between themselves and the character. Yeah, you know of
sometimes do you have to remind them that maybe you know,
they wouldn't wear that or that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yeah, they've got to be a bit of a personality
wrangler as well as in the character.
Speaker 12 (22:33):
Yeah, someone might whip out the sunglasses at the last
minute and sort of say, oh, you know, I think
he could wear these, and they sort of sunglasses that
don't go at.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
All, you know, with their characters and.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Don't work in a period that's exactly. That's exactly exactly
speaking period pieces and stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
The costumes can absolute well, they do absolutely set the
scene of what we're watching. Do you have a particular
rare that you like to deal with that is a
sort of a personal thing that you love to do.
Speaker 12 (23:04):
I wouldn't say yes, because I guess that's kind of
refer a bit more to fashion or I guess perhaps history.
I quite like costume costume, like the you know, really
Dodge of the Jungle of Matrix or kind of Scooby
(23:25):
Doo where works very different and out there kind of Scooby.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Doo would be, well, I have to ask about County
Rapes because he's gorgeous.
Speaker 12 (23:38):
Yeah, I actually can't really say much that I kind
of was only went. There's a lot of matricks to
help with extras and things. So you know, obviously a
lot of films with the big stars, they keep themselves
to themselves, which in.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Their witty bago Yeah, I.
Speaker 12 (23:56):
Mean that apparently you've got you've got hundreds of crew
members around, you expect them to speak to everybody.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Angela, what would be because we're talking about the fact
that the film and TV industry has never been healthier
than it is right now in WA and.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
It's only going to get more.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
So what is your top bit of advice for someone
wanting to get into the costume department in this industry.
Speaker 12 (24:22):
I guess I feel for the people who say that
they really they try and they can't get their foot in.
I would say, sort of try to let us know
that you're around, because we don't know yourself. Out of
that if we don't know who you are, And I
guess that's a really hard thing for those people to
(24:44):
then say.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
But who do I speak to when they're starting from scratch?
Speaker 12 (24:48):
Yeah, because I guess there is a bit of a
thing where you know, sometimes by the time you hear
of a film it's already it's rude. Yes, and these
are smaller films, so sometimes you only have five or
six people in a costume department. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
Yeah, so you know Screen West Screen Australia. I don't know,
finding a way of getting.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Get onto those websites, see what's happening.
Speaker 12 (25:14):
Do little courses along the way, making context? Yes, just
letting us know what your skills are, what you can do.
That's not only just for the Wopper graduates and the
you know, Tafe graduates.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
For me.
Speaker 12 (25:28):
I also think, you know, experience being older. You know,
perhaps you've graduated from Wapper ten years ago, you've done
some work other places, but you know you've got a
skill now yet people who just graduate won't have. So
even if you haven't done a lot, you know immediately.
(25:48):
But yeah, get in touch. Yeah, I think that's you know,
put yourself out there.
Speaker 9 (25:52):
Yeah, it is good. And people who are a bit
older and have I don't know, lots of different things.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
All right, Well, Angela, thank you so much for taking
us into your line of the whole industry.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
It's fascinating costume department. Yeah, absolutely, thank you you Thanks Angela.
There's sure report on ninety six AIRFM.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
You know Aussie music legend, Paul Kelly's iconic Christmas tune
How to Make Gravy is stepping out of the radio
and onto the screen. Well, the trailer is out, the
first trailer for it, giving us a taste of what's
cooking and our socials. Gurero Pippers uploaded it to the
ninety six FM website so you can check it out
For anyone not familiar with the nineteen ninety six hit,
Kelly's How to Make Gravy tells the heart wrenching story
(26:37):
of Joe, a man locked up over Christmas who sends
a letter to his family lamenting his absence from the
holiday dinner table. Now, after nearly three decades, the beloved
characters from the song have come to life in a
full length feature film starring Daniel Henshaw as Joe.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
So check out the trailer at ninety sixfm dot com
dot au.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Variety magazine has listed its top one hundred horror movies
of all time. You can check out the full list
at Variety dot com. Shall we just run through the
top five? I reckon, we're right counting back at number five,
nineteen sixty eight's Rosemary's Baby. Yes, Mia, Actually they've just
made a movie.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
It's on Netflix. It's a kind of a.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Origin story, okay of the character, right, and it's Daisy,
you know from where the core Dad's oh yeah, yeah,
I can't think what it's called.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
So that doesn't help anyone, doesn't get back to a
bit of a prequel.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Number four nineteen seventy five's Jaws, Number three nineteen sixties.
Psycho at number two from nineteen seventy three, The Exorcist
that was going to be toping? Why was so number one?
The number one horror movie of all time? According to
(27:57):
Variety magazine is this one?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Stop Stop? This is the movie Redsweet called the most
horrifying motion picture I have every the Texas Jean Saw Massacre.
That's number one.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Check out the four hundred four one hundred at Variety
dot com. Netflix has lined up Sasha Baron Cohen and
Rosamond Pike to star in the comedy Ladies first and
adaptation of a successful French film with a title that
it's way too early for me to even a crack.
Don't even try to have a go. Jennie Swear pasts
on hum facin.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Well you do want to get buried and we can
call the French guy guy. Yeah, Cohen, this is interesting.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
It's going to play an unrepentant womanizer who finds himself
in a parallel world dominated by women.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
That's as French as it gets. So there you go.
That's coming to Netflix. Very good. More Clesy more, Lisa
more podcasts.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
He's won the Miles Franklin Award record four times and
has been named a Living Treasure by the National Trust.
His new book, Juice, is out today. Good morning, Tim
Winton made welcome.
Speaker 13 (29:13):
Oh morning guys.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
So Tim, I've never heard a book described as cli
fi before.
Speaker 13 (29:21):
It sounds a vaguely pornographic.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Vaguely climate fiction. It's climate fiction. Well I reset my brain. Okay,
climate fiction? Oh look, it's not.
Speaker 13 (29:34):
It's just as an adventure story. I don't even know
what pliction means, but.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Clifi.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Go figure, So what is the where is the idea
for Juice come from?
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (29:48):
I guess I've been looking at you know, the way
that the planet's going in the way that we're kind
of just avoiding acting on it. You know, there's the
changes that happen to it, and you know, I so
I just you know, I kind of imagine the world
a little bit into the future and the kind of
(30:10):
the world that we'd have to deal with.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
You know.
Speaker 13 (30:13):
So I just placed these people in a kind of
extreme environment and saw what they would do is cruel experiment.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Ye yes, yes, collecting water and trying to stay out
of the harsh heat during the day, even in winter,
that kind of thing.
Speaker 13 (30:30):
Yeah, Look, I think I think what we forget is that,
you know, the northern half of Australia is already right
on the edge of extremities, you know. I mean, and
you know we've just got through a winter where we
had forty degrees you know, temps in the forties in
the winter time. If you add add a few more
degrees to that, you know, that's that's a bit of
(30:51):
a bit of trouble. And look, you know, when you're
when you're writing novels, you're essentially putting people in extreme
positions and see what they do. If there's no trouble,
there's no story.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
I struggle. Did I read somewhere that.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
You said, correct me if I'm wrong that this is
a story anguished over, a novel you were scared to write,
but felt an obligation to attempt.
Speaker 13 (31:18):
Yeah. Look, I think it's the biggest issue of our day,
and I think it's a it's a tough thing to
address it. It's hard to get right, you know, it's
hard to bring readers along with you. It's certainly scaring
the pants off our politicians. They're doing everything in their
power to avoid taking action. And yeah, look, so it's
(31:38):
a you know, it's a big, heavy subject and I've
tried to tackle it in a way that's appealing to
a reader and somehow, you know, to provoke some kind
of response.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Yeah, ridges the gap, Yeah, in a story, yes, Yeah.
Speaker 13 (31:55):
But fundamentally it's a it's a survival tale, adventure about it.
Guy just trying to make his way in a in
a tough world, and he's you know, the book starts
with him traveling across a landscape with a with a
kid who happens not to be his and he's just
responsible for her, and he's just trying to keep himself
(32:15):
and her alive in a pretty hostile environment. When when
the world's sort of going to pieces. And you know
when when as we're seeing on the news every night,
you know, when when a society comes to pieces, everything
is harder. You know, people resort to savagery. You know,
(32:37):
it's not when a climate falls to bits, some society
falls to bits. I think we forget, you know, yeah,
when we take we take for granted how safe and
comfortable we are, and it only takes a few things
to go wrong, you know, you know, and it's it's like,
it's what we're seeing on the news, and.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
You know, it's tough.
Speaker 13 (32:56):
I mean, look, I think we still think that climate
is all in in the future, but half a million
people die every year just from heat related illnesses all
owe and so you add a few more degrees to
that and yeah, it's all sets up.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Tim.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
When I saw that one minute video, I think it
was that you did talk about the premise, and it
made me think of how we can't control when we're
born where, or when we're born, the situation our family's
in and things like location and rich or poor or
war zones or state of the environment is one of those.
It let me down that sort of path, and there's
a part of this where the character is starting to
think about the people who caused all issues in the
(33:33):
first place.
Speaker 13 (33:35):
Yeah, I think if you if you find out that
the conditions that you're living in the results of the
way other people lived, and you're essentially damned for other
people's sins, what does that do to you? I think
that would be almost deranging, you know, to find that out.
(33:57):
But yeah, I think we're all at the mercy of
what's gone before, you know, and we have to somehow
cope with, you know, the conditions and the cards that
are that we're dealt with.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
You know, There's one thing I've always believed is that
prevention is better than the cure, you know. So I
mean there's no use just waiting until the end, as
you say, until you know, the wheels fall off societies.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
We know it. Him Now we're for the last couple
of weeks Him.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
We've been talking about the growing film and TV industry
that's going on in Way. We're getting we're getting the
Malaga Film Studios opening up, We're getting people making films
down south, up north, just in York. And you of
course have had several of your works transformed into translated,
(34:49):
you know, to the screen. How do you feel about
what's what's going on right now in Wa.
Speaker 13 (34:55):
I think it's terrific. Yeah, when you know, I mean,
I've been in this paper for well so long it's
almost embarrassing to say the numbers.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Friends almost.
Speaker 13 (35:08):
You know, forty years ago, I've almost unheard of the
filmmate and you get local crew and you know, to
have been able to employ hundreds of people over all
that time in productions, and for that to becoming more
more common and intensifying, I think it's a really great thing.
And this is a great place to make films. It's
(35:31):
a it's a great place full of talent and potential,
and I'm really proud of what WA has been able
to do in recent years.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
You know, it is a great place to make films.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
And I always cite and I hope I didn't imagine
this somehow, and you're going to you're going to dash
my thoughts on a little, but I always cite the
guy that made Cloud Street said said, we have to
film it in Wa because you can't recreate the light
that WA has.
Speaker 9 (35:59):
No.
Speaker 13 (35:59):
I think that's I think that's fair. Things look pretty
great here.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
Day.
Speaker 9 (36:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (36:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (36:08):
And also, I mean one of the reasons it's a
good place to make films is that it doesn't rain
all the time. You can go to incredible places all
over the world, but it's going to rain half the time,
and and that just you know, when you when you
can't you know when it's costing millions of dollars a
day and sometimes millions of dollars a minute when you
can't shoot because of the weather. Yeah. Look, I was
(36:31):
really pleased at cloud Street. Got shot along the river too,
and I thought it looked great.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
You know it does and a lot more reliable, like
you said, than shooting in Melbourne, where you'll get the
sunshine for two hours.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
And possibly desired too for you know, to go with
the plant.
Speaker 13 (36:51):
Well, well we're should have given the now States starts
in the tropics and ends up on the on the
veranda of the Antarctic. All we've got all geographical basis covered, Yeah, Tim.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Whether we talk to songwriters a lot about where the
magic comes from, where the songs come from? What about
your ideas and then therefore the creative stuff for you,
is it the times you just lock yourself away and
something will happen, or you have to have that bit
of inspiration.
Speaker 13 (37:16):
Oh look, I just go to the desk.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
You know.
Speaker 13 (37:18):
I'm like, I'm just like a training I just show up,
show up to the bench, and hopefully the job turns up,
you know. And I know if I don't sit down
and wait for something to show up, it might turn
up when I'm not there and when I've missed out.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I love that, man, my philosophy.
Speaker 12 (37:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
And if you've got a special desk, is it like
an old timer?
Speaker 13 (37:41):
Yeah? Yeah, I think I've got an old public service
desk coming nineteen sixties. Yeah, got for twenty bucks. I
think I was a student.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
They're the best bargains. Keep doing that, Tim, because jobs
keep showing up and we love it. So Juice is
out now, all five hundred pages. That's one. It's a
big one brick, isn't it.
Speaker 13 (38:01):
You can always you can always use it for a doorstop, Tim,
thanks for chatting to us this morning.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
It was good to catch up.
Speaker 13 (38:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I hate AI. I can't stand. I'm not a fan.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
And here's another reason today why I don't like it,
ending a one hundred and forty seven year old tradition.
Wimbledon is ditching line judges for AI tech. No really,
they're going to be the it says chair umpires will
remain well, why should hope so?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I mean otherwise there's nothing, there's no one for any
of the tennis brats to yell at them.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
AI technology at Wimbledon of all places. I mean we're
talking about proper old school where white hare's your strawberries,
give me a PIMS. Tradition technology is AI is going
to replace it for all atpter events. In twenty twenty five,
(38:58):
the All England Lawn Tennis Club CEO said, having reviewed
the results of the testing undertaken at the Championship this year,
we consider the technology to be sufficiently robust and the
time is right to take this important step in seeking
maximum accuracy in our officiating, which means it's cheaper.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Save a lot of money. Saved money because I've had
a bit of not just about money, is that it's
about tradition, tradition, it's about money. It's Wimbledon.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
They've also i mean they've had a bit of assistance
from you know, the laser whatever they are, the things
that cycle but yeah, whatever.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah, it's probably that in cricket.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
They've had a bit of that in helping tennis out
but they've always still had the line judges there.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
You can have that, use the technology that's available that
you know, you know the fact that it's being filmed,
have that back up, but.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
A I tech you know.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
The reputation of tennis players, though it can be if
they going off, what are they going off at a
box or something like a machine.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
You know?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Or do they just go yeah, that'll be a more
frustrated want to yeah, be more more ful on I'm
not I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Next, are going to change the color. You won't have
that wimbled and green anymore. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (40:04):
But they'll be able to wear whatever they want. Of
course they will not traditional white.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
That's so bizarre, crazy
Speaker 1 (40:10):
And Lisa ninety six am
Power by the radio app from ninety six air VM
to where You're listening today This is Clezy and Lisa's podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Coming up on the podcast WHI took calls on your
favorite snack, put your pair with a movie, and.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Speaking of movies, ben O'Shea reviewed The Apprentice and.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
Talking movies again.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Angela Duncan spoke costumes on how to Make It in
wa and.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Funnily enough, still on movies, Variety has come out with
its list of the top one hundred horror flicks of
all time.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Pretty much a pair of Spielberg's We thought We talked
about movies today, not just about the movies themselves, but
about what you eat at the movies. This has been
a hot topic on Reddit of what food you pair
with a movie?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Well, I have a very nice TV for the purpose
of being able to watch movies at home with wine
and cheese.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Wine and cheese is your go to? Yea? Yeah? Do
you like popcorn? Person?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
You know, one thing I don't really love is the
gold class food in the dark when it's a bit
sometimes a bit and you know, when you can't see
what you're reading.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You really don't like eating at the cinema. Yeah, not
where I'm Yeah, that's why I like to.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Do it at home.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You've got comfort, You've got all the creature comforts and all,
and go to the Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Yeah, everyone.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You haven't to worry that I'm going to miss a
good bit. You know that bowl of stuff crap, you
stop it over the toilet. You can do whatever. You
can make noise with a noisy packet if you want to.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
No one goes.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yeah, but sometimes in the gold class the lights go down.
I really want to see what I'm eating, and yeah,
that kind of thing.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
But of course you would be eating because you wouldn't
be able to go two and a half hours without.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I'm eating now thinking about talking about it, you are,
I reckon that the movies. For me, it's more teasers
and I don't quite know why, but it's easy to
finish the packet before the movie actually starts. Watch the
trailer cinema ads.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Do you like a box? Like a box it's not
as noisy as well, exactly made for cinema eating.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, or you're waiting if you've still got some left
at the start of the movie, then you're waiting for
a loud bit because if it's quite in a little
bit whispered dialogue, you know.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
More teasers were always I mean they're classic. It's a
classic choice. But unfortunately, ever since peanut m and m's
were invented, I've had to break up with maltesers.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah really, yeah, it was peanut m and ms win
out every say to the maltess it's me, not you.
It's yeah. Yeah, it's tough, isn't it. It's you. You
don't have a peanut in.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Your Yeah, don't worry, will be working on that.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I'm surprised combining everything the malt facked up. Don't spoil
it and it's in Westminster. What is the movie snack
you like to pair with your movie?
Speaker 5 (02:25):
I like popcorn with of ice in Sugar's got a
bit of a sweet too, yes, and so the lolliglobbled
blist bonds are all caramel.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
And that's taking things to the top of it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Can you last very long into the movie with those?
And when you get your popcorn going with the with
the dust on top, can I laugh?
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Well, you just make sure it doesn't get on you
if you're just a sly it just really slightly dusted
before and then you can eat it and yummy.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
I can't think.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
What the brand is, but it's in a green packet.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
You'll know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
In it that they do that slightly salty and sweet,
slightly sweet, something salty.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
It's just the perfect combination of the two.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
A little bit of salt next time.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Yeah, nice, a little bit of sualt and sweet. Yeah,
because your sense is go to w Dutch clear, good
morning and welcome.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Good morning, Claire. You're pairing for a movie. What's your
food for me?
Speaker 5 (03:37):
And definite class is your packet of popcorn?
Speaker 6 (03:41):
And then in the popcorn all around?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Okay, okay, right, and then it's like a lucky dip
which you're getting mixed into one.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Interesting, Thanks Claire, thank you. On the xt line, Craig
says from Singleton says, I like to sneak in a
banana and a couple of plumps.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Oh okay, really, I'm not sure how much to react
to that.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
David in ridgewoods says, cookies and cream, chalk bomb and
a bag of barbecue flavor chips.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
That's noisy, though, that is very noisy. But you might
be at home, yeah, quite possibly.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, but if you're going to movies, I mean, some
people do pick the quietest dialogue time to open up
the packet.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Don't they They do?
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Russell Russell Russell. Sorry, it's just eating a choc bomb.
Were read the movies. It's like old school, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I didn't know there was a Cookies and Cream chok boond.
I don't need to be getting back to the movies
more often, obviously. Yeah, well you're in your cheese and
David and Ridgewoods said cookies and Cream choked.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Oh really, I didn't know they worked on the varieties.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Darren and Port Kennedy said, Grace's Crazy Donuts in forest Field. Okay,
the best doughnuts in Australia. Makes Krispy Cremes taste like cardboard.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I don't get the.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Krispy Kremes fuss anyway, rather just a cinnamon ring hot doughnut.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Okay from the Royal Show. Well, they're getting big time
thumbs up around here. Let's go to buy for Gid
Jess Morning guy.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
What is it? What do you get into?
Speaker 7 (05:13):
Well, there's nothing worse than running out of, you know,
your ultimate snack half way through the movie. So I
found a family size bag of playing eminem get me through.
It's not I'll probably feel sick and have even.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Some to take home.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So even if it's a scorse three hour job, you're
you're okay, lasting family.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Family. It depends on the time.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, and then yeah, oh that you'd be there for
a while. Do you ever go to the variety pack?
Speaker 7 (05:49):
No, I did you? Maltese's used to be my goal
go through. Yeah, it just dissolved se quickly in the mouth.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
And yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Quite like the variety pack of Eminem's because sometimes I
although the peanut eminem for me is king, I sometimes
can't decide whether I want the crunchy one or the
or the original.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah, okay, so always wondering. Thanks, it's both angry John
in Como, Hello John, guys, how are you? What are
you eating at the movies?
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Okay, so unlikely. So I'd like to sit at home
in front of the big TV with my streaming services. Yes, sure,
that way I can have really what I want. So
it's usually some really nice Italian cold cats, like your
studio and your coupar and your suppresso Solami. Yes, it's
really nice season and like some.
Speaker 8 (06:47):
Saff oh, Yeskerina, And then of course that's got to
all be washed down with some really nice Neialian Why.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yes, you like me, John, are the same?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Yeah, to finish of some really nice, intense dark sookers.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Oh my god, we are.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
Specifically anything with some postage and goes there.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Really well yeah right, yes, that is movie of Championship.
That is dinner. Well, it's almost it's so good, John.
The movie that really doesn't matter now had all the
food groups and that sounds like a date on the Bachelor.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Thanks John, that's my afternoon planned.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I think you can't concentrate now. I can see your
eyes over Oh now you're salivating.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
We're talking about your snack.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
You like to have the movies Matt and Edgewater says,
I'm in my thirties right still by a party pack
of lollies and empty them into a slushy. Really, they
rock hard and last the whole movie into a slushy
or into a slushy cup.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
I'm not sure what, because wouldn't they go soggy and slushy?
I would have thought. So it's obviously got the science.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Working, yes, and there is a science to it, no doubt.
David in eastweek Park says, ice cream and rock salt.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Okay is a combat of salty, caramel y ice cream, whiler,
A lot more things, a lot more products. Now I
have the salt and sugar hit that.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Name and Ben in Cloisters is coming to watch a
movie with me and John and como because he's in
his theater room at home and a comfortable recliner with
a bar fridge meters away, either a nice chraz with
a cheese platter or a G and T.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
It's got everything you need. What throuple that would be? Yes,
let's go to one Daniel Good all the way? Oh yeah, peanut,
even though I'm allergic to painnuts, Okay, I'm going to say,
we're worried about it. It's a papent. You've got to
(09:01):
take an EpiPen with your.
Speaker 9 (09:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Also people using what they're doing.
Speaker 10 (09:08):
But yeah, great to flick with Ben Oshe Good morning,
Good morning, guys.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Certain presidential hopeful tried very hard to make sure this
movie didn't come out before the election.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
It's probably the worst movie. It's probably the worst movie,
but yes for her radio. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (09:35):
So, former President Donald Trump tried to block this movie
The Apprentice, which is about the early period of his
life in the late nineteen seventies, early nineteen eighties in
New York. Before he was the Donald, he was young
Donald learning the ropes of business, very much in the
shadow of his old man who didn't let him do anything.
(09:57):
And so this movie is about how Donald Trump became
Donald Trump, and it stars Sebastian stan as Trump, and
so a lot of people I think we're a little
bit surprised by that casting choice. Initially, sure, Sebastian Standy
played the Winter Soldier, he played Tommy, Tommy, he was fantastic.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yeah, doesn't he doesn't look anything like Donald Trump.
Speaker 11 (10:20):
No, and in some of the some of the trailers,
he's not really doing the kind of classic mannerisms. But
the one of the really best things about this movie
is as it unfolds, as he kind of becomes more
like the Trump we know today, Sebastian Stands performance actually
becomes more Trumpian. Well that's if that's a verb, it works,
(10:44):
and so that's that's kind of cool to see. But
the other interesting thing about this film, so as it
kind of tries to unpack how Trump became the way
he is, it's like, so these days, of course, Trump says,
you know, I'm the greatest businessman in the world. Probably
never been a better business person than me. I know business.
I've done so many deals. So he's always he's always
(11:04):
talking it up, right, always talking up how much he knows.
But no one's born with that knowledge. You learn it.
And so this movie tries to answer who did he
learn it from? And it probably wasn't his dad. He
obviously learned a lot from his dad, but this film
pitches the idea that he learned pretty much everything from
this Manhattan lawyer who was very prominent at the time
called Roy Cone, who's played by successions Jeremy Strong.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 11 (11:28):
He was just so phenomenal and this role is incredible,
Like he's such a scene stealer and it's interesting watching
them interact. So roy Cone basically takes Trump under his
wing and says, look, you know, like I see potentially
new kid. I also see a beautiful, lush head of
golden hair. Nothing will ever happen to that. So I'm
(11:50):
going to I'm going to basically introduce you to the
big players. I'm going to get you out of any
sticky messes. I'm going to make you legal troubles go away.
Because at the time, the Trumpel family was facing a
federal lawsuit about their illegal and potentially racist rental practices
in their apartment. Bilitis they weren't renting to people of color,
which is something that happened in real life. And so
(12:11):
Roy Cone is the one who got them out of
the way of that issue by essentially blackmailing the district attorney.
And so Roy Coney pretty dodgy guy, but very very accomplished.
So and it goes to the details of you know,
like things like basically everything that Trump was talking about
in the Art of the Deal, you know, all of
his kind of trademark things like rule number one, attack
(12:32):
attack attack, rule number two you never admit anything, and
rule number two three you never accept defeat. Those kind
of you know, the truth is what you make of it.
All of those things that we associate with Trump now
came from Roy Cone, and so that's quite interesting to watch.
And it also shows his marriage to Ivana, who's played
by Maria from Borax exactly, brilliant, exactly, and she's a
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great Ivana. I don't know if she really looks that
much like Avanna, but I think she does a great
job of portraying what we know of Avana. But when
you're watching it, you think to yourself, what was it
about this film that Trump hated that he was trying to.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Block, yeah, right, damage him what he.
Speaker 11 (13:14):
Thought would damage him in his run to the White House.
And there's one scene that depicts Trump a sexual assault
of Evana, which she said happened in real life. He's
denied that it ever happened. And so you look at
that and you go, is that what he was worried about?
Is it that scene he was worried about. I don't
think so. I think what he was worried about is
this idea that the film paints him as he was
very ambitious, but pretty green, naive guy who was taught
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everything he knew by someone else. Basically stole those ideas
and stabbed his mentor in the back. And I don't
think he liked the idea that he was ever weak
and he was ever not an expert, that he was
ever not born to be this entrepreneurial genius, because he
does come across as a bloke who dodgers financial ruin
over and over again by basically can a lot of bs.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
I think he just didn't want to be movie fodder. Yeah,
the lead up to the election and in history. I
didn't want to hide any kind of weaknesses, that's right.
Speaker 11 (14:10):
And so the film, the film, I wouldn't say it
treats Trump sympathetically, but it does acknowledge that there is
some humanity there, you know there maybe some people don't
associate with him now and some of his behavior, but
then as the film goes, that kind of humanity disappears
as he becomes you know, this sort of ego maye.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
And fast forwarding obviously part way past the movie's time
into when he was president, didn't he and Roy Cone
end up falling out?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Didn't before it was on his staff?
Speaker 3 (14:41):
And then so there's a second part to this movie
that we hope to see another time.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I guess, well, I don't know if.
Speaker 11 (14:48):
I don't know if anyone will ever be game enough
to make another Trump movie after the legal challenges of
this one. So there's a lot, there's a lot to
unpack it. I think they're the positives. The negatives about
this film is it's a real kind of style of
a absence situation. They make it look like an old
VHS videotape, and sometimes it's a bit overcooked. It's like, okay,
we get it set in the past. It doesn't need
(15:08):
to look like that. And you know some of the
other issues is it feels like box ticking at a time.
It's like, do you need like it's an origin story, right,
but you don't need the origin of his Brioni suits.
You don't need the origin of him drinking diet coke.
You don't need the origin of you know, every single
little detail of Trump's life. Now, you don't need it packaged.
(15:31):
Band explained as if the audience is an idiot. So
there's that makes it a bit superficial when it probably
could have got a bit deeper to try and understand
why some of these things happened, as opposed to you know,
he had a suit fitting with roy Cone one day
and Royce said, why don't you try a Brioni suit.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
It's like product place. But it does feel like it
does feel like that.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Then does it touch on the fact that you know,
they reckon that Trump really doesn't have quite as much
money as you make care It was talking up and
he did his best to spend all that.
Speaker 11 (15:57):
He talks about his debt right like it talks about
how much debt he racked up with all these all
these projects, and how he was always going to other
people saying, oh, look, i'll give you this great opportunity
if you can give me some equity to pay off
the debt to these guys, right, and then to the
next group says, well, i'll give you something special if
i'll pay off those guys. So he's always kind of
in the in the hole to somebody for huge amounts
of money. He just manages to always just stay one
(16:20):
step ahead of the creditors, but not always by you know,
the greatest business acumen.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
But yeah, well that's all we know about. All right.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Well, how many Sebastian didn't need the prosthesis for this one?
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Are you giving a guest? I'm going to give it three?
Very good? All right? Interesting time, we were exactly good.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Thanks many more clear more Lisa, More podcasts soon, Cleary
and Lisa's how It's to Make gest in w An,
I'll make you a.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Start continuing our series about our burgeoning state of our
movie and film industry. Right now, today we have someone
from the world of wardrobe and costumes, Angela Duncan, is
with us. Hello Angela, Hello, so wardrobe costumes. I mean
one and the same. I imagine the clothing department you
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dress these people. We do, and yes, we like to
be referred to as costume.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Costume costume department.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Okay, So when you would be I guess required very
early in the shoot for something, you'd have to sort
out everybody's individual Look.
Speaker 9 (17:34):
Well, there's different members of the costume department.
Speaker 12 (17:37):
Normally the costume designer and the supervisor sort of start
in pre and my job that I have done mostly
in my life is a standby, So I kind of
come on just before filming.
Speaker 9 (17:50):
A lot of work has done before I arrive.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Okay.
Speaker 12 (17:55):
Then when I start, I break down a script yep,
and then I'm sort of hand a lot of the
costumes that have been decided at that point.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
Okay, right, right, How did you get into this line
of work? Ansel it fast?
Speaker 11 (18:08):
Right?
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Okay?
Speaker 12 (18:10):
And just from there I did a secondment on men
from Snow River in Melbourne and just went from there.
Speaker 9 (18:16):
Really right?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Have you done stage stuff as well? Or is it
mostly TV and film?
Speaker 9 (18:22):
Very small amount of stage?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Yeah, because I guess that would be a whole different
animal too that you're dealing with there.
Speaker 9 (18:28):
It is, Yeah, just something I didn't gravitate to.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I guess right, what are some of the things that
you've worked on recently. I believe you worked on the
Surfer with Nicholas Cage.
Speaker 9 (18:39):
I did.
Speaker 12 (18:40):
I'm lucky enough with what I do that I can
sort of come in and out of productions, not sort
of work the whole thing, So I've done a bit
of that recently. It's quite good and convenient when you
have kids. A lot of my CV is in my
twentiesho I had children. I love traveling, so that's what
(19:02):
I did. I used to take jobs all over the country,
different you know. I worked in London, different parts of
the world, so I could go exploring and work.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Job.
Speaker 12 (19:12):
Yeah, when you have kids, it kind of changes the
ball game a bit. So I'm a bit more settled
now and a bit more choosy. I guess, as we know,
we don't have studios.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Here, so we're going to This is why you must
be so excited about what's happening in w Way in
this industry.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
Definitely.
Speaker 12 (19:34):
I mean to have work in Perth is a huge
plus four something Like me, I'm always somebody that can
pack up my bags and go and work three months
up north or south that kind of thing.
Speaker 9 (19:47):
Well, I mean, I guess I could. I just kind
of choose not.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
To to here.
Speaker 9 (19:52):
Yeah, so you know, to work in Perth. It's the
stability is good.
Speaker 12 (19:58):
Yeah, just opens up a lot more doors for I
guess people who may not be able to drop everything
and not everyone can.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
And like you said, different stages of your life, you
still want to stay in it, but you're in a
different stage.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
So yeah, having that flexibility is awesome.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Had to pick and choose, Hey, Angela, over the years,
have there been Is it unusual being on a set
and there's a difficult there's an issue, something's broken or whatever,
and you're there at three o'clock stitching or working on
something for running repairs for a shoot the next morning.
Speaker 12 (20:27):
That happens all the time. Yea, And I think that's
sort of you know, the difference between not having studios
and having studios. Sometimes you will come across a problem
on a beach or in the desert that's remote and
a shoe's broken or those kind of things, and you're
left there with very limited things you can do to
(20:50):
fix the problem. It's kind of nice being in a
studio where you know there's a whole worker room behind you,
and you've got glues and tapes and all sorts of
things that can help you out to.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
You know, save the day at least, I said mcgivey.
Got to have a pretty important kit with you.
Speaker 12 (21:07):
You do, and sometimes, you know, that's very limited when
you're in a very remote spot, you know, where you
can only take what you can take. So I quite
like the safety of the studios and having a costume
department there with lots of things. I think that's going
to be great.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
What about dealing with some stars, I mean you are
putting them in there what they're wearing, and of course
that can be a very personal thing. Do you ever
get a bit of pushback from them on oh I
don't want to wear that, or you know, my character
wouldn't wear.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
That, say to you, Yeah, that happens a lot, so
you've got to deal with that.
Speaker 9 (21:45):
Yep.
Speaker 12 (21:45):
Sometimes you have just have different ideas, you know, sometimes
they might see the character in a different way, and yeah,
there's there's always a compromise. And you know, it's great
when you get handed of an actor that would just
do exactly everything.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, Sam Neil, imagine Samuel pushing back.
Speaker 12 (22:05):
I don't think you can play I mean, yeah, it's
you know, everybody's different, and at the end of the day,
they are playing a character. Some people, you know, get
confused between themselves and the character. Yeah, you know of
sometimes do you have to remind them that maybe you know,
they wouldn't wear that or that kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yeah, they've got to be a bit of a personality
wrangler as well as in the character.
Speaker 12 (22:33):
Yeah, someone might whip out the sunglasses at the last
minute and sort of say, oh, you know, I think
he could wear these, and they sort of sunglasses that
don't go at.
Speaker 9 (22:42):
All, you know, with their characters and.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
Don't work in a period that's exactly. That's exactly exactly
speaking period pieces and stuff.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
The costumes can absolute well, they do absolutely set the
scene of what we're watching. Do you have a particular
rare that you like to deal with that is a
sort of a personal thing that you love to do.
Speaker 12 (23:04):
I wouldn't say yes, because I guess that's kind of
refer a bit more to fashion or I guess perhaps history.
I quite like costume costume, like the you know, really
Dodge of the Jungle of Matrix or kind of Scooby
(23:25):
Doo where works very different and out there kind of Scooby.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Doo would be, well, I have to ask about County
Rapes because he's gorgeous.
Speaker 12 (23:38):
Yeah, I actually can't really say much that I kind
of was only went. There's a lot of matricks to
help with extras and things. So you know, obviously a
lot of films with the big stars, they keep themselves
to themselves, which in.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Their witty bago Yeah, I.
Speaker 12 (23:56):
Mean that apparently you've got you've got hundreds of crew
members around, you expect them to speak to everybody.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Angela, what would be because we're talking about the fact
that the film and TV industry has never been healthier
than it is right now in WA and.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
It's only going to get more.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
So what is your top bit of advice for someone
wanting to get into the costume department in this industry.
Speaker 12 (24:22):
I guess I feel for the people who say that
they really they try and they can't get their foot in.
I would say, sort of try to let us know
that you're around, because we don't know yourself. Out of
that if we don't know who you are, And I
guess that's a really hard thing for those people to
(24:44):
then say.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
But who do I speak to when they're starting from scratch?
Speaker 12 (24:48):
Yeah, because I guess there is a bit of a
thing where you know, sometimes by the time you hear
of a film it's already it's rude. Yes, and these
are smaller films, so sometimes you only have five or
six people in a costume department. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (25:03):
Yeah, so you know Screen West Screen Australia. I don't know,
finding a way of getting.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
Get onto those websites, see what's happening.
Speaker 12 (25:14):
Do little courses along the way, making context? Yes, just
letting us know what your skills are, what you can do.
That's not only just for the Wopper graduates and the
you know, Tafe graduates.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
For me.
Speaker 12 (25:28):
I also think, you know, experience being older. You know,
perhaps you've graduated from Wapper ten years ago, you've done
some work other places, but you know you've got a
skill now yet people who just graduate won't have. So
even if you haven't done a lot, you know immediately.
(25:48):
But yeah, get in touch. Yeah, I think that's you know,
put yourself out there.
Speaker 9 (25:52):
Yeah, it is good. And people who are a bit
older and have I don't know, lots of different things.
Speaker 3 (25:59):
All right, Well, Angela, thank you so much for taking
us into your line of the whole industry.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
It's fascinating costume department. Yeah, absolutely, thank you you Thanks Angela.
There's sure report on ninety six AIRFM.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
You know Aussie music legend, Paul Kelly's iconic Christmas tune
How to Make Gravy is stepping out of the radio
and onto the screen. Well, the trailer is out, the
first trailer for it, giving us a taste of what's
cooking and our socials. Gurero Pippers uploaded it to the
ninety six FM website so you can check it out
For anyone not familiar with the nineteen ninety six hit,
Kelly's How to Make Gravy tells the heart wrenching story
(26:37):
of Joe, a man locked up over Christmas who sends
a letter to his family lamenting his absence from the
holiday dinner table. Now, after nearly three decades, the beloved
characters from the song have come to life in a
full length feature film starring Daniel Henshaw as Joe.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
So check out the trailer at ninety sixfm dot com
dot au.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Variety magazine has listed its top one hundred horror movies
of all time. You can check out the full list
at Variety dot com. Shall we just run through the
top five? I reckon, we're right counting back at number five,
nineteen sixty eight's Rosemary's Baby. Yes, Mia, Actually they've just
made a movie.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
It's on Netflix. It's a kind of a.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Origin story, okay of the character, right, and it's Daisy,
you know from where the core Dad's oh yeah, yeah,
I can't think what it's called.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
So that doesn't help anyone, doesn't get back to a
bit of a prequel.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Number four nineteen seventy five's Jaws, Number three nineteen sixties.
Psycho at number two from nineteen seventy three, The Exorcist
that was going to be toping? Why was so number one?
The number one horror movie of all time? According to
(27:57):
Variety magazine is this one?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Stop Stop? This is the movie Redsweet called the most
horrifying motion picture I have every the Texas Jean Saw Massacre.
That's number one.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Check out the four hundred four one hundred at Variety
dot com. Netflix has lined up Sasha Baron Cohen and
Rosamond Pike to star in the comedy Ladies first and
adaptation of a successful French film with a title that
it's way too early for me to even a crack.
Don't even try to have a go. Jennie Swear pasts
on hum facin.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Well you do want to get buried and we can
call the French guy guy. Yeah, Cohen, this is interesting.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
It's going to play an unrepentant womanizer who finds himself
in a parallel world dominated by women.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
That's as French as it gets. So there you go.
That's coming to Netflix. Very good. More Clesy more, Lisa
more podcasts.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
He's won the Miles Franklin Award record four times and
has been named a Living Treasure by the National Trust.
His new book, Juice, is out today. Good morning, Tim
Winton made welcome.
Speaker 13 (29:13):
Oh morning guys.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
So Tim, I've never heard a book described as cli
fi before.
Speaker 13 (29:21):
It sounds a vaguely pornographic.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
Vaguely climate fiction. It's climate fiction. Well I reset my brain. Okay,
climate fiction? Oh look, it's not.
Speaker 13 (29:34):
It's just as an adventure story. I don't even know
what pliction means, but.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Clifi.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Go figure, So what is the where is the idea
for Juice come from?
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (29:48):
I guess I've been looking at you know, the way
that the planet's going in the way that we're kind
of just avoiding acting on it. You know, there's the
changes that happen to it, and you know, I so
I just you know, I kind of imagine the world
a little bit into the future and the kind of
(30:10):
the world that we'd have to deal with.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
You know.
Speaker 13 (30:13):
So I just placed these people in a kind of
extreme environment and saw what they would do is cruel experiment.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Ye yes, yes, collecting water and trying to stay out
of the harsh heat during the day, even in winter,
that kind of thing.
Speaker 13 (30:30):
Yeah, Look, I think I think what we forget is that,
you know, the northern half of Australia is already right
on the edge of extremities, you know. I mean, and
you know we've just got through a winter where we
had forty degrees you know, temps in the forties in
the winter time. If you add add a few more
degrees to that, you know, that's that's a bit of
(30:51):
a bit of trouble. And look, you know, when you're
when you're writing novels, you're essentially putting people in extreme
positions and see what they do. If there's no trouble,
there's no story.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
I struggle. Did I read somewhere that.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
You said, correct me if I'm wrong that this is
a story anguished over, a novel you were scared to write,
but felt an obligation to attempt.
Speaker 13 (31:18):
Yeah. Look, I think it's the biggest issue of our day,
and I think it's a it's a tough thing to
address it. It's hard to get right, you know, it's
hard to bring readers along with you. It's certainly scaring
the pants off our politicians. They're doing everything in their
power to avoid taking action. And yeah, look, so it's
(31:38):
a you know, it's a big, heavy subject and I've
tried to tackle it in a way that's appealing to
a reader and somehow, you know, to provoke some kind
of response.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
Yeah, ridges the gap, Yeah, in a story, yes, Yeah.
Speaker 13 (31:55):
But fundamentally it's a it's a survival tale, adventure about it.
Guy just trying to make his way in a in
a tough world, and he's you know, the book starts
with him traveling across a landscape with a with a
kid who happens not to be his and he's just
responsible for her, and he's just trying to keep himself
(32:15):
and her alive in a pretty hostile environment. When when
the world's sort of going to pieces. And you know
when when as we're seeing on the news every night,
you know, when when a society comes to pieces, everything
is harder. You know, people resort to savagery. You know,
(32:37):
it's not when a climate falls to bits, some society
falls to bits. I think we forget, you know, yeah,
when we take we take for granted how safe and
comfortable we are, and it only takes a few things
to go wrong, you know, you know, and it's it's like,
it's what we're seeing on the news, and.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
You know, it's tough.
Speaker 13 (32:56):
I mean, look, I think we still think that climate
is all in in the future, but half a million
people die every year just from heat related illnesses all
owe and so you add a few more degrees to
that and yeah, it's all sets up.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Tim.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
When I saw that one minute video, I think it
was that you did talk about the premise, and it
made me think of how we can't control when we're
born where, or when we're born, the situation our family's
in and things like location and rich or poor or
war zones or state of the environment is one of those.
It let me down that sort of path, and there's
a part of this where the character is starting to
think about the people who caused all issues in the
(33:33):
first place.
Speaker 13 (33:35):
Yeah, I think if you if you find out that
the conditions that you're living in the results of the
way other people lived, and you're essentially damned for other
people's sins, what does that do to you? I think
that would be almost deranging, you know, to find that out.
(33:57):
But yeah, I think we're all at the mercy of
what's gone before, you know, and we have to somehow
cope with, you know, the conditions and the cards that
are that we're dealt with.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
You know, There's one thing I've always believed is that
prevention is better than the cure, you know. So I
mean there's no use just waiting until the end, as
you say, until you know, the wheels fall off societies.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
We know it. Him Now we're for the last couple
of weeks Him.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
We've been talking about the growing film and TV industry
that's going on in Way. We're getting we're getting the
Malaga Film Studios opening up, We're getting people making films
down south, up north, just in York. And you of
course have had several of your works transformed into translated,
(34:49):
you know, to the screen. How do you feel about
what's what's going on right now in Wa.
Speaker 13 (34:55):
I think it's terrific. Yeah, when you know, I mean,
I've been in this paper for well so long it's
almost embarrassing to say the numbers.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Friends almost.
Speaker 13 (35:08):
You know, forty years ago, I've almost unheard of the
filmmate and you get local crew and you know, to
have been able to employ hundreds of people over all
that time in productions, and for that to becoming more
more common and intensifying, I think it's a really great thing.
And this is a great place to make films. It's
(35:31):
a it's a great place full of talent and potential,
and I'm really proud of what WA has been able
to do in recent years.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
You know, it is a great place to make films.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
And I always cite and I hope I didn't imagine
this somehow, and you're going to you're going to dash
my thoughts on a little, but I always cite the
guy that made Cloud Street said said, we have to
film it in Wa because you can't recreate the light
that WA has.
Speaker 9 (35:59):
No.
Speaker 13 (35:59):
I think that's I think that's fair. Things look pretty
great here.
Speaker 7 (36:06):
Day.
Speaker 9 (36:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (36:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (36:08):
And also, I mean one of the reasons it's a
good place to make films is that it doesn't rain
all the time. You can go to incredible places all
over the world, but it's going to rain half the time,
and and that just you know, when you when you
can't you know when it's costing millions of dollars a
day and sometimes millions of dollars a minute when you
can't shoot because of the weather. Yeah. Look, I was
(36:31):
really pleased at cloud Street. Got shot along the river too,
and I thought it looked great.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
You know it does and a lot more reliable, like
you said, than shooting in Melbourne, where you'll get the
sunshine for two hours.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
And possibly desired too for you know, to go with
the plant.
Speaker 13 (36:51):
Well, well we're should have given the now States starts
in the tropics and ends up on the on the
veranda of the Antarctic. All we've got all geographical basis covered, Yeah, Tim.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Whether we talk to songwriters a lot about where the
magic comes from, where the songs come from? What about
your ideas and then therefore the creative stuff for you,
is it the times you just lock yourself away and
something will happen, or you have to have that bit
of inspiration.
Speaker 13 (37:16):
Oh look, I just go to the desk.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
You know.
Speaker 13 (37:18):
I'm like, I'm just like a training I just show up,
show up to the bench, and hopefully the job turns up,
you know. And I know if I don't sit down
and wait for something to show up, it might turn
up when I'm not there and when I've missed out.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
I love that, man, my philosophy.
Speaker 12 (37:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
And if you've got a special desk, is it like
an old timer?
Speaker 13 (37:41):
Yeah? Yeah, I think I've got an old public service
desk coming nineteen sixties. Yeah, got for twenty bucks. I
think I was a student.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
They're the best bargains. Keep doing that, Tim, because jobs
keep showing up and we love it. So Juice is
out now, all five hundred pages. That's one. It's a
big one brick, isn't it.
Speaker 13 (38:01):
You can always you can always use it for a doorstop, Tim,
thanks for chatting to us this morning.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
It was good to catch up.
Speaker 13 (38:08):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
You know.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I hate AI. I can't stand. I'm not a fan.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
And here's another reason today why I don't like it,
ending a one hundred and forty seven year old tradition.
Wimbledon is ditching line judges for AI tech. No really,
they're going to be the it says chair umpires will
remain well, why should hope so?
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I mean otherwise there's nothing, there's no one for any
of the tennis brats to yell at them.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
AI technology at Wimbledon of all places. I mean we're
talking about proper old school where white hare's your strawberries,
give me a PIMS. Tradition technology is AI is going
to replace it for all atpter events. In twenty twenty five,
(38:58):
the All England Lawn Tennis Club CEO said, having reviewed
the results of the testing undertaken at the Championship this year,
we consider the technology to be sufficiently robust and the
time is right to take this important step in seeking
maximum accuracy in our officiating, which means it's cheaper.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Save a lot of money. Saved money because I've had
a bit of not just about money, is that it's
about tradition, tradition, it's about money. It's Wimbledon.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
They've also i mean they've had a bit of assistance
from you know, the laser whatever they are, the things
that cycle but yeah, whatever.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Yeah, it's probably that in cricket.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
They've had a bit of that in helping tennis out
but they've always still had the line judges there.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
You can have that, use the technology that's available that
you know, you know the fact that it's being filmed,
have that back up, but.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
A I tech you know.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
The reputation of tennis players, though it can be if
they going off, what are they going off at a
box or something like a machine.
Speaker 5 (39:53):
You know?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Or do they just go yeah, that'll be a more
frustrated want to yeah, be more more ful on I'm
not I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Next, are going to change the color. You won't have
that wimbled and green anymore. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (40:04):
But they'll be able to wear whatever they want. Of
course they will not traditional white.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
That's so bizarre, crazy
Speaker 1 (40:10):
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