November 1, 2023 • 29 mins
Chris Coleman and Adam Jansen return from a five week break with a look back at the things that Chris may have missed while overseas, they discuss Australia's various World Cup performances and Softer Than Tottenham returns!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Super Serious Sports Show with Chris Coleman and Adam Jansen.
Adam Jansen, I took a look at the calendar earlier
today saw it said the first of November, and that
made me realize it's more than a month since we've
done our last show. Ordinarily, i'd ask you at this
point of proceedings, what's caught your eye since we last
did a show? But as has been five weeks, I
reckon you'd struggle to fit that into the sixty seconds
(00:23):
or so we're meant to do to get this thing underway.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, I haven't been overseas, I have, I know, so
I've been paying attention. So a lot of things have
caught my eye. If you can give me five minutes
in the show today, I can tell you the things
that would have caught your eye but you may have missed.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You want me to disregard five minutes of preparation that
I may not have actually done in the first place.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I prepared today, I'm glad you did five minutes worth
of material.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Okay, Well, what else would you like to talk about
between now and the end of the return The Triumphant
Return of The Super Serious Sports Show Basketball?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Okay, cricket.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Can we talk cricket, We've got it cricket, We've got
a World Cup.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Going on, and let's talk some footy as well.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Okay, we'll do all that on this edition of the
Super Serious Sports Show. All right, Adam, you asked for
five minutes. I'll give you five minutes. Your time starts now.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So you went overseas. Where did you go?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Japan, Hong Kong, didn't go to Vietnam because the ship
we were on got delayed by a typhoon. And Singapore,
where I probably should have been arrested then Perth.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Right, Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not going to delve
into that arrestment comment.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Immigration arrested. I lied to immigration. They said, have you
been sick anyway?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Anyway, you've been gallivanting around the world. Yes, I've been
as far as Sydney and that's as far as I've got.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Oh, you global journey man.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You yeah, yeah, I drove. I didn't even fly.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Oh but no, we expense spears.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's been a big five weeks of sport, you don't say.
And I'm worried that you had may have missed some things.
Most of the things on this list you will be
at least at least vaguely aware of you. But there
is some stuff that you may have missed, right, stuff
that Chris may have missed. We're going to go in.
We're gonna go from twelve to one, so with twelve
(02:12):
being what I think is the least important.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
October twenty nine, South Africa defeat New Zealand to win
the Rugby World Cup twelve eleven.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Didn't miss that, got up early in the morning, watched it,
loved it. Yeah, yep, most enjoyed that. It's been the
only thing I've enjoyed in rugby. Can we talk about
what I haven't enjoyed in rugby?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Later? Yes? Okay, later my segment. Yep, fine, yep, you
probably enjoyed this.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So New Zealand lost. It's always a good thing.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Next year October eleven, also, funnily enough, the eleventh thing
on the list. The Dodgers lose four to two and
in doing so are eliminated three nil by the Arizona Diamondbacks.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
You've been told today, well have you been told today?
Consider yourself told? Move on to number ten.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Actually, can we just quickly interrupt World Series? Who's up
three to one? The Rangers of the Rangers at three.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, the Rangers. And I love the fact that the
Rangers are beating the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Because of what happened to October eleven.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
No, I just don't like the Diamondbacks never have.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
October seven, so number ten on our list, Oscar Piastre
won his first sprint shootout at the Guitar Grand Prix.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I missed that. I missed that completely. Yeah, probably because
I was probably at the ocean when that happened. I
don't know. Anyway, eleventh of October, I.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Was all right next ninth ranked. On October eighth, while
on motorsport, Shane van Gisbergen won Bathist in his Red
Bull Chevy Camaro.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
That man is a talent. He is a prodigious talents
offt NASCAR. Seems like a really nice guy.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Also, Kiwi, he he won his first NASCAR race. What
are you laughing at?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And I said he's a nice guy, and you said
he's also a Kiwi.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, he won his first NASCAR race in Chicago on
a street circuit and he's full time.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Was that NASCAR's or some fastardized truck racing thing?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
No, it was NASCAR, OK. Yeah, I watched the footage.
It looks really cool driving the things around the streets.
It's awesome. Next October twenty nine, so only a couple
of days ago Australia. The Matilda's won eight nil over
the Philippines in Perth. Sam Kerr and Caitlin Ford both scored.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Haatrick was always going to be a flogging Smartest move
that Football Australia could have made was putting it on
in Perth, Sam Kerr's hometown. Get Kerr to play. You're
always going to get sixty thousand to turn up.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You're not always going to get eight goals though.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
No, but against the Philippines you'd want at least four.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yep. Seventh ranked thing in things Chris may have missed
while he was away, the Netherlands beat South Africa in
the Cricket World Cup thirty eight runs.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
That was hilarious. That was a true more moment of
sporting gold, possibly only surpassed by another result in the
Cricket World Cup that I hope you're going to include.
If not, we'll get to it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
The next one is from the World Cup. Number six.
Dave Warner hits his second successive century after making one
hundred and four against that Netherlands.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, I will not say I have come across and
changed camps and become a fan of Dave Warner.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You haven't wandered over to warnerside.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I haven't wanted over at Warner side. But ge his
hitting has been good. But and look well done to him,
and I hope that he can keep up that, keep
that format, keep consistent right through to the end of
his career. But the Maxwell hundred of forty balls was
a thing of absurdity. I don't know whether you saw it.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
He went from now I was getting your messages, I'd
gone to bed.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, not to fifty off twenty seven balls, fifty to
one hundred off thirteen And the shot that he hit
for six was landing at Tullamarine Airport in Australia about
seven hours later. It just took off next.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
All right, number five in the most important things you
may have missed while you're overseas, Collingwood won their sixteenth
AFL Premiership, beating Brisbane ninety to eighty six on September thirty.
So I feel while ago now, but since we did
a show.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Do you know how hard it is to watch the
AFL Grand Final in Japan.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Imagine it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It's not easy. I found a venue. I'll give you
a photo, you can you can put the phone. In fact,
i'll give you a video that I took from inside
one of the only two pubs in the entire Tokyo
area of forty million people that were showing it.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well, you'll have to tweet it because I deleted Twitter.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Oh, we will do something with it. Yeah, all right,
we're not on Twitter. Any of the super serious sports
sho accounts been shut No. Next number four yep. Former
Giant Bobby Hill won the Norm Smith Medal in his
first season at Collingwood. Good on him? Good?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Was he that good? When he was at the Giants?
He was outstanding?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
He wasn't that good. He was good. But and look
there was always something specially that now I called him
before he played for the I played in the AFL
in the old Nethol competition and you could tell there
was something about him. So well done to him.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
On a similar thing. October one, Nathan Cleary wins the
Clive Churchill Medal.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, I saw most of that game.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh you would have seen number two. Then the Brisbane
Broncos on October first take a twenty four to eight
lead after fifty six minutes after Adam Reynolds converted Ezra
MAM's third try. Is that the one where he looked
down at the camera.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That was funny. It would have been even funnier if
it was someone other than Penrith winning the title, but
it was still funny.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And the most important, slash dramatic thing that you miss,
Chris while you're away. The Penrith Panthers defeated the Brisbane
Broncos twenty six to fourteen following a conversion from Nathan
Cleary following a Nathan Cleary try. Yeah, oh, poor Brisbane,
Poor Brisbane. Last weekend to be a Queenslander, wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It was? There were lots of depressed Queenslander's on the
cruise ship on that Sunday night and I wasn't one
of them. Let's get into the Cricket World Cup for
a little bit, and the Australian Cricket team, like I
think many sports fans with the Cricket World Cup, took
a while to actually get into it themselves. They started abysmally,
but gee, it goes forever.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It doesn't go as long as the Rugby World Cup.
Did you know?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
It does go for as long as the Rugby World Cup.
It goes for longer than the Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I went to put Australia losing to Fiji in the
Rugby World Cup on this list. You were here for it. Yeah,
you were here, and not by a couple of days,
by like a week and a half. It wasn't even
close to qualify. And the Rugby World Cup went forever.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Okay, the Cricket World Cup still has at the time
of recording, eighteen days to go. It's still got two
and a half more weeks to go.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, I must admit they should be playing a lot
more game, like two games a day. The original World Cup,
so it was a nineteen seventy five I think, was
the first Cricket World Cup. There were not just two
games being played at once. There were often four games
being played at once.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
The BBC. This is obviously pre dating a multi channel
broadcasting and so on. The BBC would broadcast one match
in full, it would show a highlights package of another match,
and the third match would have a camera at it
that would get just some stuff for news. The fourth
match wasn't even televised India versus Zimbabwe where Zimbabwe had
(08:51):
I think it was Zimbabwe had India reduced to four
for nine at one stage when capaldv came in and
they were five for seventeen. Soon afterwards Capal devoltarly Mental
scored one hundred and seventy three. There is no television
footage of that innings.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
That's incredible, but especially when you think about it in
twenty twenty three. But we've all got these multi channels,
like Fox Sports have got channels everywhere, the AFL, Fox
foot he's always got you know, there's different games at
different times. We don't need every game. Not every cricket
fan is going to sit down and watch every single game.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
But with multi channels, you can put games on at once.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I like the tournament structure, England tanking in this World
Cup hole.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I think that that is gold is my friend.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
But what I think it's done is I think it's
actually affected the standings of how they thought it would
play out, because now it's blatantly obvious who the top
four teams are that are going to go through to
the finals. England were kind of going to be that
fiftheam because they've been worse than literally every other team
in the World Cup. It's kind of ruined that. But
I like the tournament structure.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I think everyone plays everyone is fine. I think having
ten teams in it that is fine.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Two games games at once every day, every day nice,
not just on weekends, every day.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Do it everywhere. You've got the multi channel capability. I
appreciate you say, but we can do it over you know,
it's too long. It started on the fifth of October,
it goes to the nineteenth of November. It is way
too long. But the Australian results, I mean the result
against India, losing that match, being bowled out for less
than two hundred and then India getting it with almost
(10:22):
ten overs to spare was not a great start. But
things have rapidly improved for Australia. You know, the win
against Pakistan was fabulous, The win against New Zealand against
all the odds.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
In the end, it was a close one against against
the Netherlands.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
To find close Alpha Centauri the closest start of Australia
four point two light years away.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
It was within three hundred runs. They'reabouts three.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Felt that was an absolute mauling.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That was the Adam Jameson Cup.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
But yeah, yeah, I'm not taking the bait the Cricket
World Toup Cup table. I'm half Dutch, Pakistan quarter still
I don't know, partially partially tweet smash smoking a pancake
for a Pancic.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Friday goldmember like a DOUI gut he was Dutch.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Pakistan could still get there and Australia. I think Australia
has played Pakistan. Who beat Pakistan. Yeah, the Australian England
game takes on all sorts of significance this weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Now because for England it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
It does, it does for England because they all have
nothing better than say, okay, it was a bad World Cup,
but at least we beat Australia because if Astralia loses
that one, they can still dip out of the semi finals.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
England are the defending champions. They've won one game.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I'm aware of this.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I'm aware of that's won one more game than you
and I.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah. I had a friend. I had a friend who
said to me the other day, what's the best performance
by a minnow at the Cricket World Cup. And the
answer was England winning it in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
You know what I can't wait for, though, South Africa,
South Africa, how are they going to blow it in
the semi coming? It's coming, It's like it's coming, you like,
But how is it going to be run rate? Whether
is it going to be just a brain fade from
one of the players. I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Do you know what the tiebreakers are in the Cricket
World Cup if you are tied, I did read them. Okay,
so tiebreakers are number of wins. Then it becomes net
run rate. Now, if they're all tied up, it then
becomes the head to head match result, and if that's
a tie or no result, then it becomes a pre
tournament seeding. I don't know if it's possible. I don't know.
(12:23):
I can't remember if South Africa and India have played
each other, or South Africa and New Zealand have played
each other. But how funny would it be if South
Africa wound up.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
South Africa and New Zealand haven't because I think they're
playing in the next couple of days.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Okay, there you go. If they play each other, game
gets washed out, gets no resulted and then New Zealand
and South Africa wind up with their game in the
semifinal washed out and South Africa gets eliminated because of
what was it the pre tournament seeding? That would be
nothing short of hilarious.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Think Alan Donald not running's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
They're super serious sports show. Is it a start the show?
It's the first of November as we record this, or
if you listening to it on the radio as it
comes out of your speakers, if you're listening to podcast
a few days down the track, just wind your mind
back to the first of November. You haven't missed anything.
It is the official start, if you like, of the
whole New NRL season, with players turning up for preseason training.
(13:13):
Most players turning up for preseason training today. There's still
someone on international duty. He used to get a break.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, Is there any more of those international games to go?
Are they done?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Now? Australia's gone to New Zealand to play in the
final of that Pacific Nations there's a final? Yeah, okay,
I think I know. I haven't been paying much attention
to it. I've been It's not forty season, no, I
mean it's November.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I've been watching the World Cup.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Morgan smith Ye's has been announced as a signing by
the Canberra Raiders. You've seen some footage of this guy.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
He looks good. That's a good two.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
He's not just this guy is not just Canberra Raiders good.
This guy could be genuinely good, like world class good.
He's what is he twenty two years old? He's alad
played one hundred Super League games.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, he's got a bit of a James I feel
about it with that. James Graham was like that, you
know what else he's got.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
He's got a real Matt Damon. Look.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Oh, yes, say he's got a great name.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well, the Smithy's, it's like Smitty. I just I keep
thinking of Monty Burns Smithy's as supposed to Smi Smithers.
I get that feeling. But he does look like Matt Damon. Seriously,
has anyone seen Morgan Smithy's and Matt Damon in a
room at the show?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It looks like a combination of Matt Damon and I'm
trying to think of the guy's name. He was in
a series I watched recently called Love and Death.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
No Idea didn't sue it anyway, Alan, I'm going to go.
I'm going to go way out on a limb here
with Morgan Smithy's and I hope that this doesn't get
to him if his form isn't good. I'm going to
put him down as the best transfer to come out
of England in the entire twenty twenties.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Well, he already takes the first England box. So you
know how you tell if an English player when they
come out here, if they're going to be good or bad?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Transfer fee?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
No, it was coming to back? Or are they a
forward and other coming to Canberra? Are they forward?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
How good?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Are they are back? The much right? That's just how
it works. Jesse Plemons, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
can see that.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, I can see that. Were they even showing me
the photo?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I can see that. Damon and Jesse Plemons.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Jesse Clemmons. He was in Friday Night Lights? Was he
in the TV series? Anyway?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I'm excited from Love and Death.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I'm excited about Morgan Smithy's. Something I am not excited about,
and I was excited about this a few months ago.
Is the NRL Las Vegas because you're not going No,
it's because no Americans are getting on board. They've sold
last I heard it was I think it was about
seventeen thousand tickets and about fourteen or fifteen thousand of
them have been sold to Australians who are going over.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, but it's it's the games are till March.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah. Yeah. How many tickets do you reckon they're going
to wind up selling and how many do you reckon
they're gonna wind up giving away.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I doesn't matter if they sell or give them away
as well as it.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Does for other teams who are hoping to get on
the on the Vegas bandwaggon down the track.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, but if the if the US sports fans are
watching watching rugby league only, that can only be a
good thing.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
They're trying to sell these games in the States by
sending a few players over there.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
It is in Las Vegas. It is the Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
A lot of things on in there here.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
There's not going to be much happening in that stadium
in January and early February.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Chris, where's the Super Bowl being held next year?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I don't it might even been there, but yeah, exactly,
the Super Bowl is being held in the same stadium.
But do you get where I'm going that there's not
going to be a lot to watch at that stadium
throughout January.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, I know those Raiders will miss out on the finals.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
As I as I said on our Prediction show, they stink.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah they do anyway. But I just wonder whether the
five year plan to have every team go to Vegas
will come to fruition, especially if they wind up giving
away thirty thousand tickets to it. It just concerns me.
You want to talk about basketball because the new NBA
season is underway. Do you still hate the Lakers?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah? They're not very good?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Okay, do you are the Clippers still not very good? Nah?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
They're getting better because they traded you know what, They're
not getting better. They theoretically they should be getting done.
They traded for James Harden, who.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Now even I've heard of James Harden. He's a former
MVP trade enthusiast. James Harden.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
He's the guy that he got up edit like a
school basketball camp or something like that and basically called
the GM of Philadelphia a liar. Look, the Clippers have
traded for him. They've got Kawhi Leonard, Paul George Russell, Westbrook.
If this was two thy and seventeen, twenty eighteen, Chris Coleman,
this team wins the championship, got bad news for the Clippers.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
It's twenty three, twenty four exactly. James Harden. My ESPN
feed went off yesterday about James Harden. It's the fourth
time he's been traded since he was named MVP. Is
that that equals the record now for any former MVP
in NBA history being traded four times. Joins Moses Malone,
Bob McAdoo, what a great name, and Russell Westbrook, who
were also traded four times after winning the MVP award.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Did you know that this is the third time that
Russell Westbrook and James Harden have been teammates. I didn't
Oklahoma City, Houston, the Los Angeles Clippers.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I learned something new every day. Also, you may remember,
and I know you will never let me forget this,
that I did come in off the long run after
the Australian basketball team did not perform up to expectations
largely set by themselves at the Basketball World Cup, A
females and you themselves more importantly than me, I actually
went to Oakanawa, which is one of the places that
the World Cup was played in, by the way on
(18:28):
the trip, and there were still posters up for the
World Cup, which are well and truly finished by them.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
It's like an election.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, the posters were still there. Anyway. I owe the
I owe the Australian basketball team the Boomers and apology
for declaring their World Cup campaign a debacle. And I'll
have more to say on that next. So there may
be some people who still think that the Australian basketball
team experience at the Basketball World Cup was a debacle.
(18:56):
But I now put to you, Adam Jansen, that there
is an Astralian sporting team that has, finally, for the
first time, I think from Australian national sporting team, found
a proper way to define debarcle. I present to you
on a silver platter, the Wallabies.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
They're not very good. You know, I don't really follow.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I know you don't, and I'd like to pick your
brains on this for just a minute.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
What do you think of brain?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I'll leave that to you. I have one, okay, I'd
like to pick your brain for a moment. Then, when
I say the Wallabies in a sporting context, what comes
to your mind? Let's play the word association game here.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
The Wallabies, Michael Liiner, Nick far Jones.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
So the golden era players who were household.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Names, yeah yeah, Tim Horn, Yeah, Okay, those guys okay,
Stephen Larkham, George Gregan.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Now those were largely either pre or early days of
rugby professionalism. I don't know if I've shared this theory
on this program before, but I have a theory that
Australia has probably handled rugby going professional worse than any
other country in the world. Okay, when rugby went professional
(20:11):
in Australia, where did the money wind up.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
In the bank accounts of some former rugby league players?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Well, in large part, yes, but it also went to
a lot of players at the top level. How much
went into grassroots I don't Well, the answer to that
is not enough. In the thirty almost years since then,
how much money has gone into grassroots rugby if you
were to compare it to say, let me think cricket, netball,
(20:38):
ossie rules, rugby league in terms of junior focus.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You're asking me questions I don't know the answer to
talk about Chris Coleman. Yeah, but in your going back
to herold talk back days, you can't help that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
It happens sometimes. Okay, let me turn this around a
little bit, grassroots and local sport. If you don't have
a grassroots, local following for your sport, yes stuffed? Okay,
here we do this show out of Canberra, right, can
you if I come to you right now and say,
can you name for me any of the local AFL
(21:15):
Canberra clubs?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Eastlake Football Claber.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Okay, so there's one. Can you name any others off
the top of your head? I mean there's Aint the
footy club down the road, which should be a dead
giveaway for you. But anyway, Yeah, well I didn't play,
I feel okay, alright, well let me let me go
to rugby league then local rugby league. Can you name
any of the local rugby league.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Clubs Queanbeyan Kangaroo Club Okay, Queenban Blues, the Wodden Valley Rams.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Right, Okay, the list goes on. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, yeah,
exactly right. The local rugby union competition UNI North Owls.
Why can you name the Union North Owls?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Because there's a guy on my OS tag team that
I think played for him or is involved with the organization.
He talks about him alone. It's funnily enough, I was
too the whole bush Rangers too. We've got a fall
a few bushes in outtoend, but that don't play in
the They're not in the proper.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Now, they're they're not the high up one. Okay. I
was actually talking to yesterday afternoon a person who used
to play for the Union or it's ours by an
amazing coincidence, and he said that the mood amongst the
rugby players that he knows and plays alongside has been abysmal,
and it has been for the last couple of years.
Rugby has lost the grassroots the game. Gland Eagles too,
(22:19):
but the game is in or that's beigause Phil small
Sun played.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
For Yeah, we've had a few come through the radio station.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Well you know they're two kilometers that way. Yeah, he's
to live across the road from it.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
But.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
They don't have The rugby Union has lost the local profile.
Local clubs are struggling, and I'm happy to debate this
with anyone. Local clubs are struggling, not just in Canberra,
right across the country. Player numbers I don't see any
argument that says player numbers are on the way up
and I don't see any numbers that says that say
more kids are playing rugby now than they're worth thirty
years ago. Whereas for Ossie rules, and for soccer, and
(22:54):
for rugby league, and for cricket and netball and basketball
and even baseball which has gone backwards in the last
few years as well, numbers are up amongst the kids.
Rugby has gone the completely wrong direction they need to,
and I think losing Eddie Jones is not going to
help them either. He was a man who was looking
for systemic change. It ain't there, it ain't gonna happen,
and that support is in a lot of trouble. And finally, AJ,
(23:17):
as we get close to the end of the triumphant
return of the Super Serious Sports Show, it is time.
It is time to bring out a segment that we've
done in the past. But this time it's time to
do it with a little twist. Can I press the
big red button?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Sure softer than Tottenham? It's back.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
It's back, it is back, and like I said, it
is back with a twist, because right now, right now,
as things stand, the mighty mighty Tottenham Hotspur Football Club
are not just not soft, They sit a top the
English Premier League table. They have eight wins and two drawers.
(23:58):
They are one of only two sides that has not
lost a game in their first ten games in the
Premier League and Posta Cooglu as a manager has accrued
more points in his first ten games in charge of
a Premier League side than anyone in history. So I
ask you, Adam Jansen, who is softer than Tottenham right now?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
The English cricket team are softer than Tottenham right now?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Well, the English cricket team are softer than a pillow
filled with marshmallows.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
But yeah, and nineteen other English Premier League teams.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I am painfully aware that this may well come back
to bite me on the ass, by the way.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Will because despite the fact that they're on top of
the top of the ladder, they're actually still fifth favorite
on the bedding. They got a rough drawer, it don't they.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
They do have look in there.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
To be fair, they have played a couple of heavyweights.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
They haven't played as many heavyweights and they're.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Drawing, So you don't get any heavier than that way.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, I mean they're running to Christmas. They've already played Fulham.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, that's what I mean so, so they have had
a tough run so far.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
It does get interesting coming into Christmas. They have Manchester
City at Manchester on the fourth of December, followed by
west Ham on the eighth of December, Newcastle on the eleventh.
Then it comes down to Brighton on the twenty ninth,
Manchester United on January the fifteenth. So they've got a
tough run all the Manchester I don't have been corried
this year.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Can I just say that the three teams who've joined
the English Premier League this year are all atrocious? Burnley,
Sheffield United and is it Lutontown? Lutontown and you chuck
Bournemouth in there as well. There is nothing nothing premiere
(25:35):
about those four football teams?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Can we rewind mentally here? About fifteen months and we
had Arsenal Michael came in, who's no longer with us,
as in he's left the building.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
He works by the beach. Now, he's not deceased, he's just.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Left us because the way I said that it sounded
like he died.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
He hasn't. He's doing another thing. Yeah, he got a
job down Woonga.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
And we wish him well. But we had him in
and we previewed it, and I think Michael and I
both put Fulham, who you had adopted recently, as most
likely to be relegated.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I'd adopted them like fifteen minutes earlier.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well, that's recent. We put them in as most likely
to be relegated because they're one of the sides that
have been promoted. Are you now seeing why? I know
you're not a big historic fan. I get it what
Fulham did last year, and to be frank, what they
are doing so far this season because they're still I mean,
they're not sitting in the world on fire. They are fourteenth,
but they've won three games. They are the exception rather
(26:34):
than the rule.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, you know what they won't be doing. They won't
be getting relegated because those four teams. One of those
four teams is going to survive. So I am chucking Bournemouth,
who I know didn't get promoted this year. I am
chucking in there as well. They're playing like they are
three dollars or someone to beat someone this weekend might
be Man City.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
They are terrorist early hahala.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, he'll beat them on his own quite possibly out
there run circles. I'll be like when you see the
kid that was that's like eighteen and he's playing against
fourteen year olds because his parents have lied about his
age and he just run circles around him.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Parents lie about their children's ages for sport. Well, I never.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Have a movie, Adam Sandler movie with a basketball whatever.
It's called Hustle, and you get the guy and he's
like clearly like thirty five, and he's like he's like,
I'm twenty.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
But yeah, I just wanted to dwell for and I
am painfully aware that things may well go wrong okay,
but by god, I'm enjoying this and I haven't had
this much fun as a Spurs fan in forever. I've
even been wearing my Tottenham shirts on the day after
match day.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah yeah, not today, not today, So that's not Tottenham's
to Brooks Brothers. Normally, I normally I like to laugh
at your sporting teams, but I can't. It's like, even
when Tottenham beat Fulham, I was like, go ing, go
Fulham aren't winning the Premier leag League. But yeah, I'm
on board with the I'm not I'm not a Tottenham supporter,
(28:02):
but I am enjoying seeing Ange do so well in
charge of Tottenham the moment Ange is gone because you
know what happened, Tottenham will lose three games that are
on orange. Doesn't happen anymore and gone.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
No, I reckon, he's actually done enough already to secure
his spot for the rest of the season, the rest
of the season, the rest of the season. I reckon,
he's done enough. It's kind of sad, isn't it. Ten
games in and I'm sitting here saying, it's a good
thing that we secured a manager and we'll hang on
to him for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah. There's a certain rugby side close to our hearts
who won a competition and sacked their coach.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, it does happen. It does happen. There's another certain
rugby side that that went over to a competition and
didn't win anything and found out their coach had been
talking to another country, and they say, and then he
quit as well. So there you go. Anyway, that's so
probably enough for this edition of the Super Serious Ports Show. OK,
catch up with you next week.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, I'm done. I'm going to go and I'm going
to go and do some work and then go home
watch the cricket.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Okay, sounds like a plan, all right, See you next
week
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And amplify CB
The Super Serious Sports Show with Chris Coleman and Adam Jansen.
Adam Jansen, I took a look at the calendar earlier
today saw it said the first of November, and that
made me realize it's more than a month since we've
done our last show. Ordinarily, i'd ask you at this
point of proceedings, what's caught your eye since we last
did a show? But as has been five weeks, I
reckon you'd struggle to fit that into the sixty seconds
(00:23):
or so we're meant to do to get this thing underway.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Well, I haven't been overseas, I have, I know, so
I've been paying attention. So a lot of things have
caught my eye. If you can give me five minutes
in the show today, I can tell you the things
that would have caught your eye but you may have missed.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
You want me to disregard five minutes of preparation that
I may not have actually done in the first place.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I prepared today, I'm glad you did five minutes worth
of material.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Okay, Well, what else would you like to talk about
between now and the end of the return The Triumphant
Return of The Super Serious Sports Show Basketball?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Okay, cricket.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Can we talk cricket, We've got it cricket, We've got
a World Cup.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Going on, and let's talk some footy as well.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Okay, we'll do all that on this edition of the
Super Serious Sports Show. All right, Adam, you asked for
five minutes. I'll give you five minutes. Your time starts now.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
So you went overseas. Where did you go?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Japan, Hong Kong, didn't go to Vietnam because the ship
we were on got delayed by a typhoon. And Singapore,
where I probably should have been arrested then Perth.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Right, Yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not going to delve
into that arrestment comment.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Immigration arrested. I lied to immigration. They said, have you
been sick anyway?
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Anyway, you've been gallivanting around the world. Yes, I've been
as far as Sydney and that's as far as I've got.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Oh, you global journey man.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
You yeah, yeah, I drove. I didn't even fly.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Oh but no, we expense spears.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
It's been a big five weeks of sport, you don't say.
And I'm worried that you had may have missed some things.
Most of the things on this list you will be
at least at least vaguely aware of you. But there
is some stuff that you may have missed, right, stuff
that Chris may have missed. We're going to go in.
We're gonna go from twelve to one, so with twelve
(02:12):
being what I think is the least important.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
October twenty nine, South Africa defeat New Zealand to win
the Rugby World Cup twelve eleven.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Didn't miss that, got up early in the morning, watched it,
loved it. Yeah, yep, most enjoyed that. It's been the
only thing I've enjoyed in rugby. Can we talk about
what I haven't enjoyed in rugby?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Later? Yes? Okay, later my segment. Yep, fine, yep, you
probably enjoyed this.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
So New Zealand lost. It's always a good thing.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Next year October eleven, also, funnily enough, the eleventh thing
on the list. The Dodgers lose four to two and
in doing so are eliminated three nil by the Arizona Diamondbacks.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
You've been told today, well have you been told today?
Consider yourself told? Move on to number ten.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Actually, can we just quickly interrupt World Series? Who's up
three to one? The Rangers of the Rangers at three.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, the Rangers. And I love the fact that the
Rangers are beating the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Because of what happened to October eleven.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
No, I just don't like the Diamondbacks never have.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
October seven, so number ten on our list, Oscar Piastre
won his first sprint shootout at the Guitar Grand Prix.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I missed that. I missed that completely. Yeah, probably because
I was probably at the ocean when that happened. I
don't know. Anyway, eleventh of October, I.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Was all right next ninth ranked. On October eighth, while
on motorsport, Shane van Gisbergen won Bathist in his Red
Bull Chevy Camaro.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
That man is a talent. He is a prodigious talents
offt NASCAR. Seems like a really nice guy.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Also, Kiwi, he he won his first NASCAR race. What
are you laughing at?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And I said he's a nice guy, and you said
he's also a Kiwi.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah, he won his first NASCAR race in Chicago on
a street circuit and he's full time.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Was that NASCAR's or some fastardized truck racing thing?
Speaker 2 (03:56):
No, it was NASCAR, OK. Yeah, I watched the footage.
It looks really cool driving the things around the streets.
It's awesome. Next October twenty nine, so only a couple
of days ago Australia. The Matilda's won eight nil over
the Philippines in Perth. Sam Kerr and Caitlin Ford both scored.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Haatrick was always going to be a flogging Smartest move
that Football Australia could have made was putting it on
in Perth, Sam Kerr's hometown. Get Kerr to play. You're
always going to get sixty thousand to turn up.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
You're not always going to get eight goals though.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
No, but against the Philippines you'd want at least four.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yep. Seventh ranked thing in things Chris may have missed
while he was away, the Netherlands beat South Africa in
the Cricket World Cup thirty eight runs.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
That was hilarious. That was a true more moment of
sporting gold, possibly only surpassed by another result in the
Cricket World Cup that I hope you're going to include.
If not, we'll get to it.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
The next one is from the World Cup. Number six.
Dave Warner hits his second successive century after making one
hundred and four against that Netherlands.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, I will not say I have come across and
changed camps and become a fan of Dave Warner.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
You haven't wandered over to warnerside.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I haven't wanted over at Warner side. But ge his
hitting has been good. But and look well done to him,
and I hope that he can keep up that, keep
that format, keep consistent right through to the end of
his career. But the Maxwell hundred of forty balls was
a thing of absurdity. I don't know whether you saw it.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
He went from now I was getting your messages, I'd
gone to bed.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Yeah, not to fifty off twenty seven balls, fifty to
one hundred off thirteen And the shot that he hit
for six was landing at Tullamarine Airport in Australia about
seven hours later. It just took off next.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
All right, number five in the most important things you
may have missed while you're overseas, Collingwood won their sixteenth
AFL Premiership, beating Brisbane ninety to eighty six on September thirty.
So I feel while ago now, but since we did
a show.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Do you know how hard it is to watch the
AFL Grand Final in Japan.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Imagine it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
It's not easy. I found a venue. I'll give you
a photo, you can you can put the phone. In fact,
i'll give you a video that I took from inside
one of the only two pubs in the entire Tokyo
area of forty million people that were showing it.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well, you'll have to tweet it because I deleted Twitter.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Oh, we will do something with it. Yeah, all right,
we're not on Twitter. Any of the super serious sports
sho accounts been shut No. Next number four yep. Former
Giant Bobby Hill won the Norm Smith Medal in his
first season at Collingwood. Good on him? Good?
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Was he that good? When he was at the Giants?
He was outstanding?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
He wasn't that good. He was good. But and look
there was always something specially that now I called him
before he played for the I played in the AFL
in the old Nethol competition and you could tell there
was something about him. So well done to him.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
On a similar thing. October one, Nathan Cleary wins the
Clive Churchill Medal.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yeah, I saw most of that game.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Oh you would have seen number two. Then the Brisbane
Broncos on October first take a twenty four to eight
lead after fifty six minutes after Adam Reynolds converted Ezra
MAM's third try. Is that the one where he looked
down at the camera.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That was funny. It would have been even funnier if
it was someone other than Penrith winning the title, but
it was still funny.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And the most important, slash dramatic thing that you miss,
Chris while you're away. The Penrith Panthers defeated the Brisbane
Broncos twenty six to fourteen following a conversion from Nathan
Cleary following a Nathan Cleary try. Yeah, oh, poor Brisbane,
Poor Brisbane. Last weekend to be a Queenslander, wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It was? There were lots of depressed Queenslander's on the
cruise ship on that Sunday night and I wasn't one
of them. Let's get into the Cricket World Cup for
a little bit, and the Australian Cricket team, like I
think many sports fans with the Cricket World Cup, took
a while to actually get into it themselves. They started abysmally,
but gee, it goes forever.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It doesn't go as long as the Rugby World Cup.
Did you know?
Speaker 1 (07:48):
It does go for as long as the Rugby World Cup.
It goes for longer than the Rugby World Cup.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
I went to put Australia losing to Fiji in the
Rugby World Cup on this list. You were here for it. Yeah,
you were here, and not by a couple of days,
by like a week and a half. It wasn't even
close to qualify. And the Rugby World Cup went forever.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Okay, the Cricket World Cup still has at the time
of recording, eighteen days to go. It's still got two
and a half more weeks to go.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, I must admit they should be playing a lot
more game, like two games a day. The original World Cup,
so it was a nineteen seventy five I think, was
the first Cricket World Cup. There were not just two
games being played at once. There were often four games
being played at once.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
The BBC. This is obviously pre dating a multi channel
broadcasting and so on. The BBC would broadcast one match
in full, it would show a highlights package of another match,
and the third match would have a camera at it
that would get just some stuff for news. The fourth
match wasn't even televised India versus Zimbabwe where Zimbabwe had
(08:51):
I think it was Zimbabwe had India reduced to four
for nine at one stage when capaldv came in and
they were five for seventeen. Soon afterwards Capal devoltarly Mental
scored one hundred and seventy three. There is no television
footage of that innings.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
That's incredible, but especially when you think about it in
twenty twenty three. But we've all got these multi channels,
like Fox Sports have got channels everywhere, the AFL, Fox
foot he's always got you know, there's different games at
different times. We don't need every game. Not every cricket
fan is going to sit down and watch every single game.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
But with multi channels, you can put games on at once.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
I like the tournament structure, England tanking in this World
Cup hole.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I think that that is gold is my friend.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
But what I think it's done is I think it's
actually affected the standings of how they thought it would
play out, because now it's blatantly obvious who the top
four teams are that are going to go through to
the finals. England were kind of going to be that
fiftheam because they've been worse than literally every other team
in the World Cup. It's kind of ruined that. But
I like the tournament structure.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I think everyone plays everyone is fine. I think having
ten teams in it that is fine.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Two games games at once every day, every day nice,
not just on weekends, every day.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Do it everywhere. You've got the multi channel capability. I
appreciate you say, but we can do it over you know,
it's too long. It started on the fifth of October,
it goes to the nineteenth of November. It is way
too long. But the Australian results, I mean the result
against India, losing that match, being bowled out for less
than two hundred and then India getting it with almost
(10:22):
ten overs to spare was not a great start. But
things have rapidly improved for Australia. You know, the win
against Pakistan was fabulous, The win against New Zealand against
all the odds.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
In the end, it was a close one against against
the Netherlands.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
To find close Alpha Centauri the closest start of Australia
four point two light years away.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
It was within three hundred runs. They'reabouts three.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Felt that was an absolute mauling.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
That was the Adam Jameson Cup.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
But yeah, yeah, I'm not taking the bait the Cricket
World Toup Cup table. I'm half Dutch, Pakistan quarter still
I don't know, partially partially tweet smash smoking a pancake
for a Pancic.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Friday goldmember like a DOUI gut he was Dutch.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Pakistan could still get there and Australia. I think Australia
has played Pakistan. Who beat Pakistan. Yeah, the Australian England
game takes on all sorts of significance this weekend.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Now because for England it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
It does, it does for England because they all have
nothing better than say, okay, it was a bad World Cup,
but at least we beat Australia because if Astralia loses
that one, they can still dip out of the semi finals.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
England are the defending champions. They've won one game.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
I'm aware of this.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I'm aware of that's won one more game than you
and I.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah. I had a friend. I had a friend who
said to me the other day, what's the best performance
by a minnow at the Cricket World Cup. And the
answer was England winning it in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
You know what I can't wait for, though, South Africa,
South Africa, how are they going to blow it in
the semi coming? It's coming, It's like it's coming, you like,
But how is it going to be run rate? Whether
is it going to be just a brain fade from
one of the players. I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Do you know what the tiebreakers are in the Cricket
World Cup if you are tied, I did read them. Okay,
so tiebreakers are number of wins. Then it becomes net
run rate. Now, if they're all tied up, it then
becomes the head to head match result, and if that's
a tie or no result, then it becomes a pre
tournament seeding. I don't know if it's possible. I don't know.
(12:23):
I can't remember if South Africa and India have played
each other, or South Africa and New Zealand have played
each other. But how funny would it be if South
Africa wound up.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
South Africa and New Zealand haven't because I think they're
playing in the next couple of days.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Okay, there you go. If they play each other, game
gets washed out, gets no resulted and then New Zealand
and South Africa wind up with their game in the
semifinal washed out and South Africa gets eliminated because of
what was it the pre tournament seeding? That would be
nothing short of hilarious.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Think Alan Donald not running's my favorite.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
They're super serious sports show. Is it a start the show?
It's the first of November as we record this, or
if you listening to it on the radio as it
comes out of your speakers, if you're listening to podcast
a few days down the track, just wind your mind
back to the first of November. You haven't missed anything.
It is the official start, if you like, of the
whole New NRL season, with players turning up for preseason training.
(13:13):
Most players turning up for preseason training today. There's still
someone on international duty. He used to get a break.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, Is there any more of those international games to go?
Are they done?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Now? Australia's gone to New Zealand to play in the
final of that Pacific Nations there's a final? Yeah, okay,
I think I know. I haven't been paying much attention
to it. I've been It's not forty season, no, I
mean it's November.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I've been watching the World Cup.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Morgan smith Ye's has been announced as a signing by
the Canberra Raiders. You've seen some footage of this guy.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
He looks good. That's a good two.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
He's not just this guy is not just Canberra Raiders good.
This guy could be genuinely good, like world class good.
He's what is he twenty two years old? He's alad
played one hundred Super League games.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, he's got a bit of a James I feel
about it with that. James Graham was like that, you
know what else he's got.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
He's got a real Matt Damon. Look.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Oh, yes, say he's got a great name.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well, the Smithy's, it's like Smitty. I just I keep
thinking of Monty Burns Smithy's as supposed to Smi Smithers.
I get that feeling. But he does look like Matt Damon. Seriously,
has anyone seen Morgan Smithy's and Matt Damon in a
room at the show?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It looks like a combination of Matt Damon and I'm
trying to think of the guy's name. He was in
a series I watched recently called Love and Death.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
No Idea didn't sue it anyway, Alan, I'm going to go.
I'm going to go way out on a limb here
with Morgan Smithy's and I hope that this doesn't get
to him if his form isn't good. I'm going to
put him down as the best transfer to come out
of England in the entire twenty twenties.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Well, he already takes the first England box. So you
know how you tell if an English player when they
come out here, if they're going to be good or bad?
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Transfer fee?
Speaker 2 (14:55):
No?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (14:56):
No, it was coming to back? Or are they a
forward and other coming to Canberra? Are they forward?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
How good?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Are they are back? The much right? That's just how
it works. Jesse Plemons, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
can see that.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, I can see that. Were they even showing me
the photo?
Speaker 2 (15:11):
I can see that. Damon and Jesse Plemons.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Jesse Clemmons. He was in Friday Night Lights? Was he
in the TV series? Anyway?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
I'm excited from Love and Death.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I'm excited about Morgan Smithy's. Something I am not excited about,
and I was excited about this a few months ago.
Is the NRL Las Vegas because you're not going No,
it's because no Americans are getting on board. They've sold
last I heard it was I think it was about
seventeen thousand tickets and about fourteen or fifteen thousand of
them have been sold to Australians who are going over.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah, but it's it's the games are till March.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah. Yeah. How many tickets do you reckon they're going
to wind up selling and how many do you reckon
they're gonna wind up giving away.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
I doesn't matter if they sell or give them away
as well as it.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Does for other teams who are hoping to get on
the on the Vegas bandwaggon down the track.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, but if the if the US sports fans are
watching watching rugby league only, that can only be a
good thing.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
They're trying to sell these games in the States by
sending a few players over there.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
It is in Las Vegas. It is the Las Vegas.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
A lot of things on in there here.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
There's not going to be much happening in that stadium
in January and early February.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Chris, where's the Super Bowl being held next year?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
I don't it might even been there, but yeah, exactly,
the Super Bowl is being held in the same stadium.
But do you get where I'm going that there's not
going to be a lot to watch at that stadium
throughout January.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, I know those Raiders will miss out on the finals.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
As I as I said on our Prediction show, they stink.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah they do anyway. But I just wonder whether the
five year plan to have every team go to Vegas
will come to fruition, especially if they wind up giving
away thirty thousand tickets to it. It just concerns me.
You want to talk about basketball because the new NBA
season is underway. Do you still hate the Lakers?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Yeah? They're not very good?
Speaker 1 (16:56):
Okay, do you are the Clippers still not very good? Nah?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
They're getting better because they traded you know what, They're
not getting better. They theoretically they should be getting done.
They traded for James Harden, who.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Now even I've heard of James Harden. He's a former
MVP trade enthusiast. James Harden.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
He's the guy that he got up edit like a
school basketball camp or something like that and basically called
the GM of Philadelphia a liar. Look, the Clippers have
traded for him. They've got Kawhi Leonard, Paul George Russell, Westbrook.
If this was two thy and seventeen, twenty eighteen, Chris Coleman,
this team wins the championship, got bad news for the Clippers.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
It's twenty three, twenty four exactly. James Harden. My ESPN
feed went off yesterday about James Harden. It's the fourth
time he's been traded since he was named MVP. Is
that that equals the record now for any former MVP
in NBA history being traded four times. Joins Moses Malone,
Bob McAdoo, what a great name, and Russell Westbrook, who
were also traded four times after winning the MVP award.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Did you know that this is the third time that
Russell Westbrook and James Harden have been teammates. I didn't
Oklahoma City, Houston, the Los Angeles Clippers.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I learned something new every day. Also, you may remember,
and I know you will never let me forget this,
that I did come in off the long run after
the Australian basketball team did not perform up to expectations
largely set by themselves at the Basketball World Cup, A
females and you themselves more importantly than me, I actually
went to Oakanawa, which is one of the places that
the World Cup was played in, by the way on
(18:28):
the trip, and there were still posters up for the
World Cup, which are well and truly finished by them.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
It's like an election.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, the posters were still there. Anyway. I owe the
I owe the Australian basketball team the Boomers and apology
for declaring their World Cup campaign a debacle. And I'll
have more to say on that next. So there may
be some people who still think that the Australian basketball
team experience at the Basketball World Cup was a debacle.
(18:56):
But I now put to you, Adam Jansen, that there
is an Astralian sporting team that has, finally, for the
first time, I think from Australian national sporting team, found
a proper way to define debarcle. I present to you
on a silver platter, the Wallabies.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
They're not very good. You know, I don't really follow.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I know you don't, and I'd like to pick your
brains on this for just a minute.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
What do you think of brain?
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I'll leave that to you. I have one, okay, I'd
like to pick your brain for a moment. Then, when
I say the Wallabies in a sporting context, what comes
to your mind? Let's play the word association game here.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
The Wallabies, Michael Liiner, Nick far Jones.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
So the golden era players who were household.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Names, yeah yeah, Tim Horn, Yeah, Okay, those guys okay,
Stephen Larkham, George Gregan.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Now those were largely either pre or early days of
rugby professionalism. I don't know if I've shared this theory
on this program before, but I have a theory that
Australia has probably handled rugby going professional worse than any
other country in the world. Okay, when rugby went professional
(20:11):
in Australia, where did the money wind up.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
In the bank accounts of some former rugby league players?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Well, in large part, yes, but it also went to
a lot of players at the top level. How much
went into grassroots I don't Well, the answer to that
is not enough. In the thirty almost years since then,
how much money has gone into grassroots rugby if you
were to compare it to say, let me think cricket, netball,
(20:38):
ossie rules, rugby league in terms of junior focus.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You're asking me questions I don't know the answer to
talk about Chris Coleman. Yeah, but in your going back
to herold talk back days, you can't help that.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
It happens sometimes. Okay, let me turn this around a
little bit, grassroots and local sport. If you don't have
a grassroots, local following for your sport, yes stuffed? Okay,
here we do this show out of Canberra, right, can
you if I come to you right now and say,
can you name for me any of the local AFL
(21:15):
Canberra clubs?
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Eastlake Football Claber.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Okay, so there's one. Can you name any others off
the top of your head? I mean there's Aint the
footy club down the road, which should be a dead
giveaway for you. But anyway, Yeah, well I didn't play,
I feel okay, alright, well let me let me go
to rugby league then local rugby league. Can you name
any of the local rugby league.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Clubs Queanbeyan Kangaroo Club Okay, Queenban Blues, the Wodden Valley Rams.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Right, Okay, the list goes on. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, yeah,
exactly right. The local rugby union competition UNI North Owls.
Why can you name the Union North Owls?
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Because there's a guy on my OS tag team that
I think played for him or is involved with the organization.
He talks about him alone. It's funnily enough, I was
too the whole bush Rangers too. We've got a fall
a few bushes in outtoend, but that don't play in
the They're not in the proper.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Now, they're they're not the high up one. Okay. I
was actually talking to yesterday afternoon a person who used
to play for the Union or it's ours by an
amazing coincidence, and he said that the mood amongst the
rugby players that he knows and plays alongside has been abysmal,
and it has been for the last couple of years.
Rugby has lost the grassroots the game. Gland Eagles too,
(22:19):
but the game is in or that's beigause Phil small
Sun played.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
For Yeah, we've had a few come through the radio station.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Well you know they're two kilometers that way. Yeah, he's
to live across the road from it.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
But.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
They don't have The rugby Union has lost the local profile.
Local clubs are struggling, and I'm happy to debate this
with anyone. Local clubs are struggling, not just in Canberra,
right across the country. Player numbers I don't see any
argument that says player numbers are on the way up
and I don't see any numbers that says that say
more kids are playing rugby now than they're worth thirty
years ago. Whereas for Ossie rules, and for soccer, and
(22:54):
for rugby league, and for cricket and netball and basketball
and even baseball which has gone backwards in the last
few years as well, numbers are up amongst the kids.
Rugby has gone the completely wrong direction they need to,
and I think losing Eddie Jones is not going to
help them either. He was a man who was looking
for systemic change. It ain't there, it ain't gonna happen,
and that support is in a lot of trouble. And finally, AJ,
(23:17):
as we get close to the end of the triumphant
return of the Super Serious Sports Show, it is time.
It is time to bring out a segment that we've
done in the past. But this time it's time to
do it with a little twist. Can I press the
big red button?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Sure softer than Tottenham? It's back.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
It's back, it is back, and like I said, it
is back with a twist, because right now, right now,
as things stand, the mighty mighty Tottenham Hotspur Football Club
are not just not soft, They sit a top the
English Premier League table. They have eight wins and two drawers.
(23:58):
They are one of only two sides that has not
lost a game in their first ten games in the
Premier League and Posta Cooglu as a manager has accrued
more points in his first ten games in charge of
a Premier League side than anyone in history. So I
ask you, Adam Jansen, who is softer than Tottenham right now?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
The English cricket team are softer than Tottenham right now?
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Well, the English cricket team are softer than a pillow
filled with marshmallows.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
But yeah, and nineteen other English Premier League teams.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I am painfully aware that this may well come back
to bite me on the ass, by the way.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
Will because despite the fact that they're on top of
the top of the ladder, they're actually still fifth favorite
on the bedding. They got a rough drawer, it don't they.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
They do have look in there.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
To be fair, they have played a couple of heavyweights.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
They haven't played as many heavyweights and they're.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Drawing, So you don't get any heavier than that way.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Yeah, I mean they're running to Christmas. They've already played Fulham.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, that's what I mean so, so they have had
a tough run so far.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
It does get interesting coming into Christmas. They have Manchester
City at Manchester on the fourth of December, followed by
west Ham on the eighth of December, Newcastle on the eleventh.
Then it comes down to Brighton on the twenty ninth,
Manchester United on January the fifteenth. So they've got a
tough run all the Manchester I don't have been corried
this year.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Can I just say that the three teams who've joined
the English Premier League this year are all atrocious? Burnley,
Sheffield United and is it Lutontown? Lutontown and you chuck
Bournemouth in there as well. There is nothing nothing premiere
(25:35):
about those four football teams?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
Can we rewind mentally here? About fifteen months and we
had Arsenal Michael came in, who's no longer with us,
as in he's left the building.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
He works by the beach. Now, he's not deceased, he's just.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Left us because the way I said that it sounded
like he died.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
He hasn't. He's doing another thing. Yeah, he got a
job down Woonga.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
And we wish him well. But we had him in
and we previewed it, and I think Michael and I
both put Fulham, who you had adopted recently, as most
likely to be relegated.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I'd adopted them like fifteen minutes earlier.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well, that's recent. We put them in as most likely
to be relegated because they're one of the sides that
have been promoted. Are you now seeing why? I know
you're not a big historic fan. I get it what
Fulham did last year, and to be frank, what they
are doing so far this season because they're still I mean,
they're not sitting in the world on fire. They are fourteenth,
but they've won three games. They are the exception rather
(26:34):
than the rule.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, you know what they won't be doing. They won't
be getting relegated because those four teams. One of those
four teams is going to survive. So I am chucking Bournemouth,
who I know didn't get promoted this year. I am
chucking in there as well. They're playing like they are
three dollars or someone to beat someone this weekend might
be Man City.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
They are terrorist early hahala.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, he'll beat them on his own quite possibly out
there run circles. I'll be like when you see the
kid that was that's like eighteen and he's playing against
fourteen year olds because his parents have lied about his
age and he just run circles around him.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Parents lie about their children's ages for sport. Well, I never.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Have a movie, Adam Sandler movie with a basketball whatever.
It's called Hustle, and you get the guy and he's
like clearly like thirty five, and he's like he's like,
I'm twenty.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
But yeah, I just wanted to dwell for and I
am painfully aware that things may well go wrong okay,
but by god, I'm enjoying this and I haven't had
this much fun as a Spurs fan in forever. I've
even been wearing my Tottenham shirts on the day after
match day.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Yeah yeah, not today, not today, So that's not Tottenham's
to Brooks Brothers. Normally, I normally I like to laugh
at your sporting teams, but I can't. It's like, even
when Tottenham beat Fulham, I was like, go ing, go
Fulham aren't winning the Premier leag League. But yeah, I'm
on board with the I'm not I'm not a Tottenham supporter,
(28:02):
but I am enjoying seeing Ange do so well in
charge of Tottenham the moment Ange is gone because you
know what happened, Tottenham will lose three games that are
on orange. Doesn't happen anymore and gone.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
No, I reckon, he's actually done enough already to secure
his spot for the rest of the season, the rest
of the season, the rest of the season. I reckon,
he's done enough. It's kind of sad, isn't it. Ten
games in and I'm sitting here saying, it's a good
thing that we secured a manager and we'll hang on
to him for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah. There's a certain rugby side close to our hearts
who won a competition and sacked their coach.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, it does happen. It does happen. There's another certain
rugby side that that went over to a competition and
didn't win anything and found out their coach had been
talking to another country, and they say, and then he
quit as well. So there you go. Anyway, that's so
probably enough for this edition of the Super Serious Ports Show. OK,
catch up with you next week.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, I'm done. I'm going to go and I'm going
to go and do some work and then go home
watch the cricket.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Okay, sounds like a plan, all right, See you next
week
Speaker 2 (29:06):
And amplify CB
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