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October 25, 2022 41 mins
Hi friends! This is our third episode in our Good Society series, where we unpack the current systems we live, work and play within and ask how they can do better and be better for people and planet. This week, Berry talks with Oliver Burkeman, a long-time columnist for The Guardian, where he wrote a column about productivity that ultimately lead to his latest book, 4000 Weeks - Time Management for Mortals. First, Oliver says, we need to accept that we can't do everything. Given that reality, what truly great options should we say no to - and grieve - while simultaneously building a good life?

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