November 7, 2025 • 38 mins
Ever found yourself facing the dreaded closet cleanout? In this episode, hosts Tony Katz and Fingers Malloy dive into what happens when you discover forgotten cigars in your humidor and decide to smoke them anyway. The duo tackles the Asylum 867 Zero flavored cigar from C.L.E., venturing far outside their comfort zone while delivering their characteristically honest and humorous assessment.
The hosts explore why flavored cigars have their place in the market, even if they're not personally fans. Between puffs of artificially sweetened tobacco, they detour into a hilarious taste test of Reese's PB&J cups that leads to one of the show's funniest moments ever - comparing the candy innovation to "Caddyshack 2" in candy form.
Key Takeaways:
Introduction to the Asylum Zero cigar and explanation of how flavored cigars are infused versus dipped
Reese's PB&J taste test begins with grape flavor (spoiler: not good)
News about CBS layoffs and media industry changes
Debunking the "midlife crisis" narrative around men's purchases
The hosts wrap up by examining what constitutes a true midlife crisis versus simply rewarding yourself after years of responsibility. Whether you're a cigar aficionado or just enjoy listening to authentic conversations, this episode delivers plenty of laughs while challenging conventional wisdom about life's little pleasures.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
It was time to clean out the closet.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Everybody, you know what I'm talking about, that moment where
it's like it's fall cleaning and spring cleaning.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I don't care what you what you call it, but
you just gotta get rid of stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And if in your humid or you have these cigars
that kind of just like hang around, You're not quite
sure how they got there, You're not quite sure why
they're there. Kind of remember someone gave it to you
or you picked it up, and then you chose something else,
or you chose something else. But today it was clean
out the human or clean out the liquor cabinet, and
(00:37):
so we ended up with a flavored cigar.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
That can't be good. It's eat drink smoke.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm Tony Katz, and that right there is America's favorite
amateur drinker, Fingers molloy Fingers.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
We like the people at CL. Christian Roe a good guy.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
People at CL do some fine work with the cl brand,
with the Row brand, and with the Asylum of brand.
We've done the Madula Blongata on the show A host
of cigars.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
This is the Asylum zero zero.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So there's three of these and I don't even know
if they're still making these. This originally was under a
licensing agreement with a group if I understand it right,
with a group called Deadwood, but if you know Drew Estates,
they do the Deadwood series and things like that.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And then there was a lawsuit and then they changed
the name to the Asylum.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Eight six seven zero is what they call this one
right here, Maduro rapper, this is hon Dura throughout. The
toro is what we're dealing with right here. And the
toro comes in at six six by fifty. This is
six by fifty, which means it's six inches long. Always
makes springers morey laugh. And the ring gauge is the
fifty the diameter of the cigar, or how thick it
(01:53):
is around me again with the laughter, A sixty four
ring gage a full one inch round. So this is
really the size I like, certainly the mouthfeel that I like.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
But in order to make this right, this is infused.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Now, sometimes cigars are dipped, and supposedly this does have
a little bit of extra.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Aroma there on the cap.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's the where you cut and then you're smoking from.
This is placed in a chamber where flavors are infused
in so.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's how this one is done. As a matter of.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Just our own every day neither one of us is
flavored cigar guys.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Is that it is not an accurate assessment.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That's a very accurate as when we say it's an
accurate assessment, it's a very accurate assessment.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That's correct. That it's correct.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, not not where I live and breathe, not at all.
But they are popular. I mean, the acids are popular.
The whole deadwood thing is popular. So there are a
lot of these cigars that are out there, and sometimes
is a way to introduce people to cigars, not us.
So when I grabbed this, I don't remember even grabbing
(03:02):
it or how I got a hold of it. I
just said, oh that's cool, Asylum.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I left it at that. I can tell you where
you got it, do you know?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I believe in our travels when we went to the
Premium Cigar Association trade show Clee.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Christian.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, then the folks that put the Asylum together put
together a nice little gift bag for us some of
the cigars to review some of them just to try out.
And I believe these were in that okay little gift
bag there, So I just lit mine up.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Fingers is already working his.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Get your notebooks out. I don't care what it is,
you gotta do it. Standards are standards kids.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
What do you eat today? What do you drink today?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
We've got nice fall weather in Indianapolis, Indiana where we record.
And then you know, you write down what you ate
in your drink because that can affect your palate. And
then you break the cigar up the third's first third, second, third,
five third, and then what flavors are you getting out
of this cigar? You write it down when you try
the cigar three months an hour, six months for an
hour and never again.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
See what I wow, c LA love you. This is
just not where I live and breathe.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Uh, But you would write down those notes again and
then you kind of get an idea of through line
what's interesting here, And both Fingers and I have this happening.
The cigar itself is well humidified, but at the cap
end it's like they.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Poured in cement. I don't know what that is. Remember,
these are.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Hand rolled products that could have just been how the
roller did things, and it's just super intense. So we
have this a version of a pick right here. And
just poking holes poka to get some kind of airflow,
going to make it a little easier on the draw.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You did, did it help you?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
No, that's okay, We're just gonna have to work a
little harder during this episode is all oh my m oh.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, So I totally get why someone would like it though.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Absolutely, And I hate to use this term tony because
it does have a negative aura around it during certain discussions.
It's a gateway cigar for a lot of people, you know,
who want to try cigars. They get into the flavored
cigars first, and then they transition over to trying cigars
(05:26):
that do not have this type of infusion. You see
it a lot at cigar lounges that offer infused cigars
where you know, oh, I don't normally have a cigar,
you hear the person say, but I'll try one of
the Oh you've got a chocolate cigar, you got a
vanilla cigar. Oh, I'll try one of those. So I
(05:47):
can see why they're popular.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
First of all, it's very pretty.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I love the I love the band, the Black and Red,
and and you know, the cigar is.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Nice and oily.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
The oppera itself is a little bit ugly. There's a
fair amount of veining going on on that. I don't
mind that at all. It's you know, it's not smooth.
It's not just this miraculous piece. It's it's kind of
what you think of a cigar. It's that flavor, which
is a little bit chocolate and a little bit tea
(06:22):
and a little bit nutty and a little bit uh
found at a gas station, like you would.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I'm I will not lie.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I'm already saying I started by saying, and I have
zero against c L I would if I was doing
the acids, I would be in the same conversation.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
There is a cigar that's chocolate banana out there.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Wait was that cl E too, Nope, it's I just
there is one of the ways the flavors in part
in that in that chocolate, not that natural kind of
chocolate in the flavored gives me a headache, like it
just I I have a throwback to when I was
a kid, and my gosh, absolutely not. But I'm I'm
an adult now, thank you. And I can see where
(07:07):
people can find pleasure in this. Okay, But do you
get the tea out of that? No, I don't get
the tea really, and I'll tell you what I do get.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It's like I'm eating a Snicker's bar and then I'm
pairing it with one of those Starbucks vanilla coffee drinks.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Oh that's not bad, that's not bad. The problem is
is that you're the that sounds rich and decadent and
this is.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Sweet and oh that's an artificial flavor. Okay, now I.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Conceptually I'm with you. That's an especially the vanilla thing
from Starbucks. That's yeah, right, but that because it's like
that high end sweet.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, but there's also that chocolate from the candy bar.
And maybe you know what would be the.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Off brand Snickers you would get at all d Then
maybe I could go along with this.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
That would be a Snickers by exactly, which I'm sure
many kids got handed to them. Over the Halloween holiday,
our neighborhood's having a parade, or had a parade, I.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Should say, did they really? Yeah? Halloween parade? No, yep,
Oh that's adorable. I thought so. Were you in it?
I was the Grand Marshal, congratulations, thank you? Is this
cigar in your human or Phil? Tell you fingers? I
(08:48):
don't want to throw too much at you.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I don't want to completely discombobulate your your your taste buds,
because what.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
We do here is we review cigars.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
We review bourbon and whatever it is we're drinking, talk
about life, what's going on in the cigar lounge.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
We share, We engage, we make people fall in love.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I have heard that there are right now forty three
children running around the United States of America named Fingers
just because of you. Yeah, and they all call me
Dad Sea Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Kats that right there
is Daddy molloy. And you know, reviewing a flavored cigar
is for us very odd, very awkward, very weird, very strange.
And I'm not going to apologize for that. It's just
(09:28):
not what we do. It is not where my taste
buds are. We'll get into this cigar from Cla. And
by the way, we love you Cla.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
We do. There's a reason for these cigars.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And so we were cleaning out the closet, cleaning out
the closet, cleaning out the humid or.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
It's been in there a while. It was time to
get it smoked. But I noticed.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Before as I found this cigar, I noticed that gearing
up for Halloween.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
My wife a fantastic woman. I'm a lucky man.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
He had purchased some very unique Halloween candy to give
out to the Little Children's ribbon candy. Oh oh no,
and not circus peanuts either, And I figured, as long
as we're blowing up palettes, let's just ruin it.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Fingers.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Would you say that the Reese's Peanut butter Cup is
the finest candy.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
In all the land? One of them? Yes, you would.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
It's a top fiver, it's a top three, and the
other two are in the Reese's family, which are the
Reeses Peanut Butter Easter Egg and the Reese's Peanut.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Butter Jack o Lantern. Oh nice, much more peanut butter.
The peanut butter cup.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Then the kit Kat is in the top three, and
then the Hershey's Crackle.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
You just wanted to say, crackle? Really? Can I say
one thing before you continue? Yeah? I was at a
gas station today. Wait, hold on this justin breaking news.
We go now to Fingers Boy in the field.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Fingers, they had a display at the register. I believe
I didn't look at it too closely because I didn't
want to buy it. A half a pound of Reese's
peanut butter cups, but there were only two cups.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
There were, and there were. It was twenty dollars and
I almost bought it just for the show. That's I
got your beat.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Because what would happen if somebody added jelly to Terese's
peanut butter cup.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I'm listening this right here is Reese's peb and j.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Reese's decided, Hey, how about we ruin your childhood and
we'll take a perfect candy.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
By the way, smell the bag. Smell in. I can't
tell if that's wonderful or awful. Right, this is insane.
They've got it in grape, Oh yes, right there?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
And then uh then a strawberry, Oh right there, get it.
I'll get you in the one. This isn't a Jersey diner.
They have no orange marmalade. Oh shoot, so there we go,
the grape and the mar and the marmalade and the strawberry. Era.
Now we have had this conversation peanut butter and jelly,
strawberry or or or grape, and I I have said,
(12:26):
quite clearly, quite clearly, it's the strawberry. I would always
be a man of strawberry over over grape. But hell,
if we're gonna ruin this stuff, let's just ruin it together.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Okay, So what are we doing first? I'm doing greape first, Grape, grape,
grape for it? Right there?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It is there, it is, Yeah, of course it was
grape ape, wasn't there?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Cards?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
My god, how'd you grow up? What happened in Saginaw?
Show me on the doll where they hurt you not
watching gape?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Do you think that it's just in the middle or
do you think are you gonna bite it?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
You're gonna do it all one bite?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Normally I would put both of them in my mouth
at the same time. I think it's gonna be like
the caramel cup, where it's gonna be a layer of
jelly on top of the peanut.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Butter before we eat this.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
We can agree this is an awful idea, and the
people at Reese's have overstepped and know it's an apology.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I'm not agreeing with you on any of this. This
maybe wonderful.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
All right, we're going at the same time. Yeah, because
that's good for radio. Huh you you know you age
before beauty? There it is up? He looks confused. Is
it is it built in? Is it like mixed in?
It's not a ribbon of jelly?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
The grapes on the bottom. Oh is it? And it's
it's it's it's not good. It's not good. I ate
the rest of it in spite in protests. Mm hmmmm,
(14:03):
why can't we? Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Oh my god, I swear to you. For a second,
I thought he was gonna puke. I thought fingers was gone.
That's it's not great. It's unfortunate. Oh, it's not great.
Do you a napkin or a bag?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Oh, someone's house is gonna get egged. Oh, I'll do
a strawberry one. I hope it's better. You finished it, well,
of course I did. It's candy, so.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
This has to be better, right, it has to be
it has to be better. Oh it is, Okay, it is,
Yes it is.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But there's no point in this. There's no point to this.
This isn't cute. Don't screw with perfection. The strawberry one's better. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
The grape is really over whelming sweet, but not in
a grape way, more in a Hey.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I don't know what that chemical is, but put it
in here. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I'll tell you what It tastes like the strawberries. Tastes
like strawberries. The snosberries tastes like snowsberries.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
It tastes like.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Your mom wanted you to take some grape cough syrup,
but you wouldn't take it because you know how awful
that grape cough syrup tastes. So she put some chocolate
in peanut butter around it to make it more palatable.
It tastes like medicine.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, I think the bigger story here is that you
took perfect candy and you said, how can we.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
And fill in the blank. You know what it is.
I'll tell you. It's a destruction of good will, is
what it is. Racist.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
It is a quick cash grab. It's like caddy shack too.
That's what that is right there. It's caddy shack too
in candy form.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
It's we have something perfect, we can't just be happy
with it. So what we're doing is we're going to
flood the market with something else because maybe.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
People are a little bit bored a caddy shack. Let's
give them caddy Shack too, and we'll make it a
little familiar. We'll put Chevy Chase in it. But it's
still awful.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
How many years have we been doing the show? Six
six seven six six seven is the kids? Wot'd say?
That might be the funniest thing you've ever said on
the show?
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Ever, how to take us this loan to get a
caddy shack too? Reference Starry Jackie Mason as Rodney Dangerfield.
Tell me I'm wrong, Well, it's that our godfather three.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Take your pack? No oh oh oh, you know what
to do? You know what this is.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It's it's cruel and I'm not a prank guy, but
you give this to your friend.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Hey, here's a peanut butter cup.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
He got an ext one, probably instilled it from the kids,
wink wink, And then then you give them that and
then you.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Laugh and laugh and laugh as they run puking. And
who doesn't love watching a good puke?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Speaking of caddy check too is on Beta Eat Drink
Smoking is your cigar Bourbon Footy extravaganzelm Tony cats That
right there is fingers maloy from cle We are smoking
the asylum zero. We cleaned out the clast kids, cleaned
out the humid or cleaned out of the liquor cabinet.
(17:42):
And this is a flavored cigar from cle the Asylum zero.
It's the Toro six by fifty, Madura wrapper, Hun Duran Piro,
the rapper, the binder, and the filler.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Not where I live flavored cigars. And I'm telling you
right now, not my cigar. Absolutely not where I live.
Where I live is Defiance Beef. I live for the
flavor of good steak, of strips of ribbis, of tenderloins.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
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Speaker 2 (18:09):
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Speaker 1 (18:18):
Part of it. You select quarter coow, halfcow, the whole cow.
I'm getting a whole cow. Next time. Go to Defiancebeef
dot com.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
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Speaker 1 (18:30):
That is Defiancebeef dot Com. That's the flavor. Kids.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
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Speaker 1 (18:41):
But I love the notes of tobacco.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I love finding that that coco or that coffee, understanding
what that berry is under picking up whether it's a
grass or a hay, or the seed or other woods.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
And this is sweet.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You talk about one of those vanilla Starbuck strinths that
you get over the over the counter that you know,
the little bottles, there's a little bit of tea going
on on the nose there with this. There is a
little bit of nining this, But there is an artificiality
that I'm never ever gonna get over, and I'm not
one hundred percent surey I.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Can finish it.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I'll finish it like I did the grape Reese's peanut
buttercupat right up. But having said that, the artificialness that
you're referring to, I completely agree with you. It is
dissipating a little bit. But you know, the first third
of this cigar, when you're trying to enjoy a draw,
(19:38):
that artificial flavor just lingers on your lips and your tongue,
and it takes a long time for it to dissipate
to go away. It's it's not something that I would
gravitate to, but I understand it.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
It's placed in the market, yes, which is really kind
of what's important here. What we're discussing. There is a
place for near everything. There is a smoker for near everything.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
This is.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
If I could say this about CIL, and I wonder
if Christian Nero would be bothered by this.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Cl is a lot of things to a lot of people,
so I would argue that they have a very different philosophy.
Then let's say, you know the interview I did with
Michael Herkclott at Farry Otago.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
We play the hits, and we play them.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Well, and we've got these core lines, and we just
do these core lines well, and every now and again
we throw out a new single.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
But in the main we come to do this.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You know exactly what you're getting and exactly why we're
providing it. And we're not interested in providing the next
new thing and the next new thing. We're interested in
providing the hits, these things that we do, in doing
them exceptionally well.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
There is a math to both.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
There is there is a math to both there and
there is a marketplace for the flavored cigar. And we
should be clear the marketplace is not just women.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I think some people see that, you know, oh, oh,
you want to smoke a cigar? A little lady.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
And by the way, if you're ever using the expression
a little lady and you're not talking to a three
year old.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
It's that's that's just terrible. That's it.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
You have to do better because honestly, it's the cliche
that's just so gross.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
And and you're there is a market for these people,
there is an interest for these people. These these are
fun things, and someone's gonna do something for just a
one off or someone.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Just wants to be part of it. Right, I get it.
I'm not gonna say no. For me, I cannot go
on no and I and I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And I admire, you know, companies that are willing to
try new things. You know, I was struggling. I was like,
what what have we done? And it was the serenity now, uh,
insanity later. Ah, That's why I was almost like, I know,
we've done other asylum before.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Those weren't flavored.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
No, those weren't flavored. We loved what they did, yeah
with that, and you know, big fans, it's just just
this wasn't We're not in their customer wheelhouse with his
cigar fingers, beloy, is this the asylum?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Eight?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Six seven zero. I believe it's eight six seven is
what they called. And all the kids are gonna be
excited because it's six seven Uh. Is this in your
humidor for eleven dollars? No mine either? Is it a
bad price for eleven dollars? I have no way of telling. Okay,
I can can't tell.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Here's where I will throw an olive branch out and
say it is in my humid or if it's for
someone else, if it's for someone that doesn't smoke cigars,
but it's cigar curious, okay, cigar questioning, Yes, exactly, I
cigar fluid. I could see having this in your humid
(22:56):
or for someone like that. I was, okay, you know, Uh,
this is a cigar that's very popular, this style of cigar.
Try this and see what you think. They try it,
they like it, then maybe you've got them into the
lifestyle at that point, and then they can broaden their
horizons and go into a different direction.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I'm gonna brought my horizons in about four minutes. Wow. Yeah,
it's just so not me. And I want to be clear.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
This has nothing to do with cla z Row, which
is the name of the cigar at all. I have
their stuff and the human art. I have some of
the hero stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I like them. Just I tried. I wanted to try.
I wanted to be pleasantly surprised. I was neither pleasantly
nor surprised with that.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
We move into news of the week, Well, there were
surprises over at the newsroom at CBS Tony, CNBC and
actually The Daily Mail has the story CBS Saturday Morning.
Their anchors, Michelle Miller and Dana Jacobson were given pink slips.
It's been part of a really a cost cutting measure
(24:10):
over at Paramount sky Dance, the parent company of CBS. Uh,
they are really cutting back. They're gonna it looks like
they're going to lay off two thousand people across the organization.
That was just released in an email on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yeah, but we talked about this a couple of weeks
ago with NBC and NBC News and Missed Now and
the whole network that they're spinning off and that could
be part of ZIMSNBC anymore, and it's gonna be MS now.
We're seeing a whole reorganization of newsrooms and the tightening
(24:54):
of the belts. These news organizations continue to shrink, and
you seem very surprised, Tony. Yeah, yeah, what's what's what's.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
What else you got? I single family? Rent? No, no, no, no, no, no,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I can't seem to bring myself to care. Oh listen,
people lose jobs and and that's things. And I'm not
in very few cases am I hoping somebody loses their job. Uh,
it's it's just that when it happens in the news industry,
(25:45):
I'm told what a big deal it is. When happens
in any other industry, I'm told those people should learn
to code.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
And so I'm not.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I won't bring myself to shed tears at all for
the news industry.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Of course, you're losing jobs. The whole world is changing.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
The industry has changed, and you're not vaunted because you
haven't taken care of us. And we should not care.
If a if a news outlet which gave us dan
rather and so desperately. I mean, listen, he made up
stories about George Bush and they engaged in editing a
(26:24):
video of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
This isn't about your politics. It's about what they did.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
And now they're they're losing jobs because people are going
on the places the sponsors are going other places, and
technology is coming in. Yeah, and and maybe maybe it
does get personal for me. And I shouldn't be a
guy who engages this personally. I should be like, yes, well,
you know, the industry changes, but there is a little
bit of personal in it for me in that these
(26:49):
people they.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Didn't take care of the American people.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Well, so I'm not going to say anything except I
hope it all works out.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I prefer it when you do take it personally. Well, then, uh,
then I'll get to that next.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Fingers Maloy, there are allegedly things that men do with
a midlife crisis, things they do in a midlife crisis,
things they do when they're around a midlife crisis.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Is that true or is that just a media narrative. Oh?
I think it's probably true.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Huh what if your whole life has been a crisis,
almost your entire life?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Pretty sure? You do a radio showing podcast there it
is d Drink Smoke.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Fingers Maloy.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Are the people over at vegeoutmag dot com.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
What kind of free.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Time do you have, fingers Maloy, there's sometimes Tony where
I just sit back and want.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
To vege out.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
You're like, I need a magazine help me through this,
and thank god we have veg Out mag Dot. Come
I do you are you subscriber? You kick the monthly
magazine delivered to your house.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
All I know is saying the words vetg Out mag
sounds dirty. It does a little bit. It's not right
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Eight purchases men make that screen midlife crisis louder than
a red sports card. And we have discussed the fact
that I will speak for myself, but I think I
do speak for fingers. Neither one of us went through
a midlife No, of course not. But I do find
the whole. Well, we'll get into this.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I will hold my tongue until we get into this
list because I do have a bone to pick with
one of the narratives about a midlife crisis.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
By the way, we switch cigars to the Oliva or
Olive a v A Millennio Robusto, which I always keep
in the human or love you c le will always
smoke your products, just not the flavor is what it is,
nothing more, nothing less.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
So here's the.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
List eight things that prove a what is that a
mid life crisis.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yes, more than a read sports car.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
The home gym that costs more than a car, like
if you get like the full peloton ecosystem.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Sometimes, what, oh, do I look like I bought a
home gym?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Looking like you bought a home gym has nothing to
do with whether or not you've bought a home Jim.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I have not bought a home gym. But what bothers me?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Because I've had this discussion with female friends who were younger,
who when they see a man in his fifties with
a sports car, they say, nice car, Sorry about your
and it's like they go down the whole midlife crisis thing,
and it's like, listen, I tried to explain to them,
for a lot of guys who are passionate about vehicles, okay,
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they can't afford a sports car when they're in their
twenties and thirties because a lot of times they're raising
a family and can't get that sports car. It's not
a midlife price. It's this I can finally afford it
inserts sports car here.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
But you're the first person I ever really say that
to me in that way. You know, I was I
was thinking about a Mustang, and I was like, I
don't know if I could be a guy who gets
away with a Mustang. He's like, would you just shut
your stupid dirty mouth and get a Mustang already?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
And you're you're right, And I didn't buy a Mustang.
But the point is, but did you get the home gym?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I sure did, and I got it with the extra
fluffy cushion.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
The point is, you're absolutely right. The the who cares?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Who cares what somebody else is going to They don't
know anything about life.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
It's and it's meaningless.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
So sometimes the midlife crisis conversation is nothing more than
the midlife opportunity conversation.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
That's a good way to put it right, and there's.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Nothing nothing wrong with that. Uh, You've you've engaged your responsibilities.
You have succeeded in providing to the best of your
ability to your responsibilities. Now you can change those responsibilities,
go have fun. The sudden Vinyl collection also, I don't
think there's anything to do with the midlife crisis. I
(31:07):
think this just means your pretentious as hell. No man, seriously,
Vinyl has such a richness to the sound. You can't
get that from digital. Man only vinyl can do it.
Here listen by Steely dan Man. Listen to it in vinyl.
If you listen to a digital you might as well
just poke yourself in the eye with a hot stick.
Oh my god, so great on the vinyl, Man, I
(31:27):
got this needle from Turkmenistan. It took four different specialized
priests in order to make it. I had to sacrifice
two cows in order to get this done. Man, this
is awesome. He said that to nobody, by the way,
because it would hang out with him.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Although that said, I do like vinyl. I think it sounds.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I will say this about vinyl, and it has nothing
to do with the sound quality.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Gen X is kind of the last.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Generation that had the vinyl, and then you morphed into
the CDs and now we're completely into the digital world.
There was something about running and getting that record album
and then opening up the in the you know, looking
at the jacket and seeing the tracks. Maybe the lyrics
were the whole thing was like a whole notes. It
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was exciting. Oh those were the days, Tony.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
There's no way to explain to somebody who was not
in gen X the idea of your walkman and cassette tapes,
and then realizing that in a CD you could skip
to the next song yep, and then you could go
back whoop.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
That was revelatory revelation. Do you know what it was
like with an eight track?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And you couldn't just take the pencil and rewind the
song in the cassette? No, no, no, you had to listen
to the whole crap album to get back to.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
The song you wanted. It's true.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
And the other thing too about the CD was being
able to put a track on repeat right.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You can't do that with a record album.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
You have to get up, walk all the way over,
pick up the arm, put the needle back on the tray.
And of course you can't do it perfectly. I'm not
a DJ, I'm not Wolfman Jack, and so you got
to put it back on the line just right to
be able to hear the song perfectly.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Again, correct answer? We were looking forward?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Alan Freed, Oh, Alan Freed, Okay, I'll try better next time. Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
The motorcycle he's afraid to ride. No, that's not a
midlife crisis. That's being a schmuck. What's the point that's
being a schmuck?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I don't understand the point to to be able to
brag your friends you have a motorcycle. It, don't get one.
Just don't get one. Get the sports car. You can
find one vintage that you know isn't a classic for
the same price as a motorcycle easily, just the get
the car.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
But do But do you know anybody who's done that.
I mean we're talking an acdotally, of course. Do you
know anybody who's bought a motorcycle.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Is like, I just have it to have it? Know me?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Either, what's the I can understand buying a motorcycle before
you go through what you should do, which is gets
go and get safety training and take the classes. And
you bought it for some reason before you took the
classes and then realized, oh my gosh, this is not
(34:22):
for me. Okay, you made a mistake. But to buy
one just to tell your friends you have a motorcycle
and then you're scared to ride it. That what a waste. Yeah,
and by the way, riding a motorcycle is freaking awesome.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, I'm never gonna do it, never going to do it.
And then here's one the watch that cost his kids
yearly tuition. Nope, Now, you guys know. I work with
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Speaker 1 (35:11):
Pass down through the generations. I love what they do.
Love it.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yes, I've got a Rolex there so actually right there,
I've got a Tutor. I've got a rare Tutor, which
is like a baby Rolex, the Advisor, which actually has
an alarm in It's a ringing bell in the watch.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Nice, it's super cool.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
A first real time piece I had is a nineteen
fifty nine Hamilton Pinematic.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I mean I do have a small collection.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
There is nothing wrong with having the one time purchase
of the sub Mariner, or of the Autumnar, or of
maybe for you it's a tag write a little bit
less expensive there.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
This has to do with whether or not you have
fulfilled your responsibilities and you are rewarding yourself. There is
nothing wrong with the reward and that's what make this piece.
This piece is dopey. This piece, this is saying you
shouldn't enjoy the things you enjoy. They should kiss off.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Well, the only thing I will say, shudg out, that's
what they should do. But having said that, I will say,
if you are choosing to watch over providing for your family,
then that's.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Oh big freaking problem. That's that's a problem. Yes, that's
that could be crisis.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yes, I know I have to feed you, but I'd
rather have this decoration on my wrist. Yeah, but that's
that's not even a mid life crisis. That's just not
being a man.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Five thirty is dinner time.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I know it's five thirty, but unfortunately we don't have
any food.
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It was time to clean out the closet.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Everybody, you know what I'm talking about, that moment where
it's like it's fall cleaning and spring cleaning.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I don't care what you what you call it, but
you just gotta get rid of stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And if in your humid or you have these cigars
that kind of just like hang around, You're not quite
sure how they got there, You're not quite sure why
they're there. Kind of remember someone gave it to you
or you picked it up, and then you chose something else,
or you chose something else. But today it was clean
out the human or clean out the liquor cabinet, and
(00:37):
so we ended up with a flavored cigar.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
That can't be good. It's eat drink smoke.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I'm Tony Katz, and that right there is America's favorite
amateur drinker, Fingers molloy Fingers.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
We like the people at CL. Christian Roe a good guy.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
People at CL do some fine work with the cl brand,
with the Row brand, and with the Asylum of brand.
We've done the Madula Blongata on the show A host
of cigars.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
This is the Asylum zero zero.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
So there's three of these and I don't even know
if they're still making these. This originally was under a
licensing agreement with a group if I understand it right,
with a group called Deadwood, but if you know Drew Estates,
they do the Deadwood series and things like that.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
And then there was a lawsuit and then they changed
the name to the Asylum.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Eight six seven zero is what they call this one
right here, Maduro rapper, this is hon Dura throughout. The
toro is what we're dealing with right here. And the
toro comes in at six six by fifty. This is
six by fifty, which means it's six inches long. Always
makes springers morey laugh. And the ring gauge is the
fifty the diameter of the cigar, or how thick it
(01:53):
is around me again with the laughter, A sixty four
ring gage a full one inch round. So this is
really the size I like, certainly the mouthfeel that I like.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
But in order to make this right, this is infused.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Now, sometimes cigars are dipped, and supposedly this does have
a little bit of extra.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Aroma there on the cap.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
That's the where you cut and then you're smoking from.
This is placed in a chamber where flavors are infused
in so.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
That's how this one is done. As a matter of.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Just our own every day neither one of us is
flavored cigar guys.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Is that it is not an accurate assessment.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
That's a very accurate as when we say it's an
accurate assessment, it's a very accurate assessment.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That's correct. That it's correct.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, not not where I live and breathe, not at all.
But they are popular. I mean, the acids are popular.
The whole deadwood thing is popular. So there are a
lot of these cigars that are out there, and sometimes
is a way to introduce people to cigars, not us.
So when I grabbed this, I don't remember even grabbing
(03:02):
it or how I got a hold of it. I
just said, oh that's cool, Asylum.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I left it at that. I can tell you where
you got it, do you know?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I believe in our travels when we went to the
Premium Cigar Association trade show Clee.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Christian.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Yeah, then the folks that put the Asylum together put
together a nice little gift bag for us some of
the cigars to review some of them just to try out.
And I believe these were in that okay little gift
bag there, So I just lit mine up.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Fingers is already working his.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Get your notebooks out. I don't care what it is,
you gotta do it. Standards are standards kids.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
What do you eat today? What do you drink today?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
We've got nice fall weather in Indianapolis, Indiana where we record.
And then you know, you write down what you ate
in your drink because that can affect your palate. And
then you break the cigar up the third's first third, second, third,
five third, and then what flavors are you getting out
of this cigar? You write it down when you try
the cigar three months an hour, six months for an
hour and never again.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
See what I wow, c LA love you. This is
just not where I live and breathe.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Uh, But you would write down those notes again and
then you kind of get an idea of through line
what's interesting here, And both Fingers and I have this happening.
The cigar itself is well humidified, but at the cap
end it's like they.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Poured in cement. I don't know what that is. Remember,
these are.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Hand rolled products that could have just been how the
roller did things, and it's just super intense. So we
have this a version of a pick right here. And
just poking holes poka to get some kind of airflow,
going to make it a little easier on the draw.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You did, did it help you?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
No, that's okay, We're just gonna have to work a
little harder during this episode is all oh my m oh.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, So I totally get why someone would like it though.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Absolutely, And I hate to use this term tony because
it does have a negative aura around it during certain discussions.
It's a gateway cigar for a lot of people, you know,
who want to try cigars. They get into the flavored
cigars first, and then they transition over to trying cigars
(05:26):
that do not have this type of infusion. You see
it a lot at cigar lounges that offer infused cigars
where you know, oh, I don't normally have a cigar,
you hear the person say, but I'll try one of
the Oh you've got a chocolate cigar, you got a
vanilla cigar. Oh, I'll try one of those. So I
(05:47):
can see why they're popular.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
First of all, it's very pretty.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
I love the I love the band, the Black and Red,
and and you know, the cigar is.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Nice and oily.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
The oppera itself is a little bit ugly. There's a
fair amount of veining going on on that. I don't
mind that at all. It's you know, it's not smooth.
It's not just this miraculous piece. It's it's kind of
what you think of a cigar. It's that flavor, which
is a little bit chocolate and a little bit tea
(06:22):
and a little bit nutty and a little bit uh
found at a gas station, like you would.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
I'm I will not lie.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
I'm already saying I started by saying, and I have
zero against c L I would if I was doing
the acids, I would be in the same conversation.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
There is a cigar that's chocolate banana out there.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Wait was that cl E too, Nope, it's I just
there is one of the ways the flavors in part
in that in that chocolate, not that natural kind of
chocolate in the flavored gives me a headache, like it
just I I have a throwback to when I was
a kid, and my gosh, absolutely not. But I'm I'm
an adult now, thank you. And I can see where
(07:07):
people can find pleasure in this. Okay, But do you
get the tea out of that? No, I don't get
the tea really, and I'll tell you what I do get.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It's like I'm eating a Snicker's bar and then I'm
pairing it with one of those Starbucks vanilla coffee drinks.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Oh that's not bad, that's not bad. The problem is
is that you're the that sounds rich and decadent and
this is.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Sweet and oh that's an artificial flavor. Okay, now I.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Conceptually I'm with you. That's an especially the vanilla thing
from Starbucks. That's yeah, right, but that because it's like
that high end sweet.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, but there's also that chocolate from the candy bar.
And maybe you know what would be the.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Off brand Snickers you would get at all d Then
maybe I could go along with this.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
That would be a Snickers by exactly, which I'm sure
many kids got handed to them. Over the Halloween holiday,
our neighborhood's having a parade, or had a parade, I.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Should say, did they really? Yeah? Halloween parade? No, yep,
Oh that's adorable. I thought so. Were you in it?
I was the Grand Marshal, congratulations, thank you? Is this
cigar in your human or Phil? Tell you fingers? I
(08:48):
don't want to throw too much at you.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
I don't want to completely discombobulate your your your taste buds,
because what.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
We do here is we review cigars.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
We review bourbon and whatever it is we're drinking, talk
about life, what's going on in the cigar lounge.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
We share, We engage, we make people fall in love.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I have heard that there are right now forty three
children running around the United States of America named Fingers
just because of you. Yeah, and they all call me
Dad Sea Drink Smoke. I'm Tony Kats that right there
is Daddy molloy. And you know, reviewing a flavored cigar
is for us very odd, very awkward, very weird, very strange.
And I'm not going to apologize for that. It's just
(09:28):
not what we do. It is not where my taste
buds are. We'll get into this cigar from Cla. And
by the way, we love you Cla.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
We do. There's a reason for these cigars.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
And so we were cleaning out the closet, cleaning out
the closet, cleaning out the humid or.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
It's been in there a while. It was time to
get it smoked. But I noticed.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Before as I found this cigar, I noticed that gearing
up for Halloween.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
My wife a fantastic woman. I'm a lucky man.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
He had purchased some very unique Halloween candy to give
out to the Little Children's ribbon candy. Oh oh no,
and not circus peanuts either, And I figured, as long
as we're blowing up palettes, let's just ruin it.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Fingers.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Would you say that the Reese's Peanut butter Cup is
the finest candy.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
In all the land? One of them? Yes, you would.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
It's a top fiver, it's a top three, and the
other two are in the Reese's family, which are the
Reeses Peanut Butter Easter Egg and the Reese's Peanut.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Butter Jack o Lantern. Oh nice, much more peanut butter.
The peanut butter cup.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Then the kit Kat is in the top three, and
then the Hershey's Crackle.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
You just wanted to say, crackle? Really? Can I say
one thing before you continue? Yeah? I was at a
gas station today. Wait, hold on this justin breaking news.
We go now to Fingers Boy in the field.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Fingers, they had a display at the register. I believe
I didn't look at it too closely because I didn't
want to buy it. A half a pound of Reese's
peanut butter cups, but there were only two cups.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
There were, and there were. It was twenty dollars and
I almost bought it just for the show. That's I
got your beat.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Because what would happen if somebody added jelly to Terese's
peanut butter cup.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
I'm listening this right here is Reese's peb and j.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Reese's decided, Hey, how about we ruin your childhood and
we'll take a perfect candy.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
By the way, smell the bag. Smell in. I can't
tell if that's wonderful or awful. Right, this is insane.
They've got it in grape, Oh yes, right there?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
And then uh then a strawberry, Oh right there, get it.
I'll get you in the one. This isn't a Jersey diner.
They have no orange marmalade. Oh shoot, so there we go,
the grape and the mar and the marmalade and the strawberry. Era.
Now we have had this conversation peanut butter and jelly,
strawberry or or or grape, and I I have said,
(12:26):
quite clearly, quite clearly, it's the strawberry. I would always
be a man of strawberry over over grape. But hell,
if we're gonna ruin this stuff, let's just ruin it together.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Okay, So what are we doing first? I'm doing greape first, Grape, grape,
grape for it? Right there?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It is there, it is, Yeah, of course it was
grape ape, wasn't there?
Speaker 3 (12:50):
Cards?
Speaker 1 (12:50):
My god, how'd you grow up? What happened in Saginaw?
Show me on the doll where they hurt you not
watching gape?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Do you think that it's just in the middle or
do you think are you gonna bite it?
Speaker 1 (13:01):
You're gonna do it all one bite?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Normally I would put both of them in my mouth
at the same time. I think it's gonna be like
the caramel cup, where it's gonna be a layer of
jelly on top of the peanut.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Butter before we eat this.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
We can agree this is an awful idea, and the
people at Reese's have overstepped and know it's an apology.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
I'm not agreeing with you on any of this. This
maybe wonderful.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
All right, we're going at the same time. Yeah, because
that's good for radio. Huh you you know you age
before beauty? There it is up? He looks confused. Is
it is it built in? Is it like mixed in?
It's not a ribbon of jelly?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
The grapes on the bottom. Oh is it? And it's
it's it's it's not good. It's not good. I ate
the rest of it in spite in protests. Mm hmmmm,
(14:03):
why can't we? Oh?
Speaker 2 (14:06):
Oh my god, I swear to you. For a second,
I thought he was gonna puke. I thought fingers was gone.
That's it's not great. It's unfortunate. Oh, it's not great.
Do you a napkin or a bag?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Oh, someone's house is gonna get egged. Oh, I'll do
a strawberry one. I hope it's better. You finished it, well,
of course I did. It's candy, so.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
This has to be better, right, it has to be
it has to be better. Oh it is, Okay, it is,
Yes it is.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But there's no point in this. There's no point to this.
This isn't cute. Don't screw with perfection. The strawberry one's better. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
The grape is really over whelming sweet, but not in
a grape way, more in a Hey.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I don't know what that chemical is, but put it
in here. Let's see what happens.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I'll tell you what It tastes like the strawberries. Tastes
like strawberries. The snosberries tastes like snowsberries.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
It tastes like.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Your mom wanted you to take some grape cough syrup,
but you wouldn't take it because you know how awful
that grape cough syrup tastes. So she put some chocolate
in peanut butter around it to make it more palatable.
It tastes like medicine.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, I think the bigger story here is that you
took perfect candy and you said, how can we.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
And fill in the blank. You know what it is.
I'll tell you. It's a destruction of good will, is
what it is. Racist.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
It is a quick cash grab. It's like caddy shack too.
That's what that is right there. It's caddy shack too
in candy form.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
It's we have something perfect, we can't just be happy
with it. So what we're doing is we're going to
flood the market with something else because maybe.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
People are a little bit bored a caddy shack. Let's
give them caddy Shack too, and we'll make it a
little familiar. We'll put Chevy Chase in it. But it's
still awful.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
How many years have we been doing the show? Six
six seven six six seven is the kids? Wot'd say?
That might be the funniest thing you've ever said on
the show?
Speaker 6 (16:34):
Ever, how to take us this loan to get a
caddy shack too? Reference Starry Jackie Mason as Rodney Dangerfield.
Tell me I'm wrong, Well, it's that our godfather three.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Take your pack? No oh oh oh, you know what
to do? You know what this is.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
It's it's cruel and I'm not a prank guy, but
you give this to your friend.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Hey, here's a peanut butter cup.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
He got an ext one, probably instilled it from the kids,
wink wink, And then then you give them that and
then you.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Laugh and laugh and laugh as they run puking. And
who doesn't love watching a good puke?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Speaking of caddy check too is on Beta Eat Drink
Smoking is your cigar Bourbon Footy extravaganzelm Tony cats That
right there is fingers maloy from cle We are smoking
the asylum zero. We cleaned out the clast kids, cleaned
out the humid or cleaned out of the liquor cabinet.
(17:42):
And this is a flavored cigar from cle the Asylum zero.
It's the Toro six by fifty, Madura wrapper, Hun Duran Piro,
the rapper, the binder, and the filler.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Not where I live flavored cigars. And I'm telling you
right now, not my cigar. Absolutely not where I live.
Where I live is Defiance Beef. I live for the
flavor of good steak, of strips of ribbis, of tenderloins.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
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That is Defiancebeef dot Com. That's the flavor. Kids.
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Speaker 1 (18:41):
But I love the notes of tobacco.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I love finding that that coco or that coffee, understanding
what that berry is under picking up whether it's a
grass or a hay, or the seed or other woods.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
And this is sweet.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
You talk about one of those vanilla Starbuck strinths that
you get over the over the counter that you know,
the little bottles, there's a little bit of tea going
on on the nose there with this. There is a
little bit of nining this, But there is an artificiality
that I'm never ever gonna get over, and I'm not
one hundred percent surey I.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Can finish it.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
I'll finish it like I did the grape Reese's peanut
buttercupat right up. But having said that, the artificialness that
you're referring to, I completely agree with you. It is
dissipating a little bit. But you know, the first third
of this cigar, when you're trying to enjoy a draw,
(19:38):
that artificial flavor just lingers on your lips and your tongue,
and it takes a long time for it to dissipate
to go away. It's it's not something that I would
gravitate to, but I understand it.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
It's placed in the market, yes, which is really kind
of what's important here. What we're discussing. There is a
place for near everything. There is a smoker for near everything.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
This is.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
If I could say this about CIL, and I wonder
if Christian Nero would be bothered by this.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Maybe not.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
Cl is a lot of things to a lot of people,
so I would argue that they have a very different philosophy.
Then let's say, you know the interview I did with
Michael Herkclott at Farry Otago.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
We play the hits, and we play them.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Well, and we've got these core lines, and we just
do these core lines well, and every now and again
we throw out a new single.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
But in the main we come to do this.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You know exactly what you're getting and exactly why we're
providing it. And we're not interested in providing the next
new thing and the next new thing. We're interested in
providing the hits, these things that we do, in doing
them exceptionally well.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
There is a math to both.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
There is there is a math to both there and
there is a marketplace for the flavored cigar. And we
should be clear the marketplace is not just women.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I think some people see that, you know, oh, oh,
you want to smoke a cigar? A little lady.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
And by the way, if you're ever using the expression
a little lady and you're not talking to a three
year old.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
It's that's that's just terrible. That's it.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
You have to do better because honestly, it's the cliche
that's just so gross.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
And and you're there is a market for these people,
there is an interest for these people. These these are
fun things, and someone's gonna do something for just a
one off or someone.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Just wants to be part of it. Right, I get it.
I'm not gonna say no. For me, I cannot go
on no and I and I get what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And I admire, you know, companies that are willing to
try new things. You know, I was struggling. I was like,
what what have we done? And it was the serenity now, uh,
insanity later. Ah, That's why I was almost like, I know,
we've done other asylum before.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Those weren't flavored.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
No, those weren't flavored. We loved what they did, yeah
with that, and you know, big fans, it's just just
this wasn't We're not in their customer wheelhouse with his
cigar fingers, beloy, is this the asylum?
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Eight?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Six seven zero. I believe it's eight six seven is
what they called. And all the kids are gonna be
excited because it's six seven Uh. Is this in your
humidor for eleven dollars? No mine either? Is it a
bad price for eleven dollars? I have no way of telling. Okay,
I can can't tell.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Here's where I will throw an olive branch out and
say it is in my humid or if it's for
someone else, if it's for someone that doesn't smoke cigars,
but it's cigar curious, okay, cigar questioning, Yes, exactly, I
cigar fluid. I could see having this in your humid
(22:56):
or for someone like that. I was, okay, you know, Uh,
this is a cigar that's very popular, this style of cigar.
Try this and see what you think. They try it,
they like it, then maybe you've got them into the
lifestyle at that point, and then they can broaden their
horizons and go into a different direction.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I'm gonna brought my horizons in about four minutes. Wow. Yeah,
it's just so not me. And I want to be clear.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
This has nothing to do with cla z Row, which
is the name of the cigar at all. I have
their stuff and the human art. I have some of
the hero stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I like them. Just I tried. I wanted to try.
I wanted to be pleasantly surprised. I was neither pleasantly
nor surprised with that.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
We move into news of the week, Well, there were
surprises over at the newsroom at CBS Tony, CNBC and
actually The Daily Mail has the story CBS Saturday Morning.
Their anchors, Michelle Miller and Dana Jacobson were given pink slips.
It's been part of a really a cost cutting measure
(24:10):
over at Paramount sky Dance, the parent company of CBS. Uh,
they are really cutting back. They're gonna it looks like
they're going to lay off two thousand people across the organization.
That was just released in an email on Wednesday.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yeah, but we talked about this a couple of weeks
ago with NBC and NBC News and Missed Now and
the whole network that they're spinning off and that could
be part of ZIMSNBC anymore, and it's gonna be MS now.
We're seeing a whole reorganization of newsrooms and the tightening
(24:54):
of the belts. These news organizations continue to shrink, and
you seem very surprised, Tony. Yeah, yeah, what's what's what's.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
What else you got? I single family? Rent? No, no, no, no, no, no,
I can't.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I can't seem to bring myself to care. Oh listen,
people lose jobs and and that's things. And I'm not
in very few cases am I hoping somebody loses their job. Uh,
it's it's just that when it happens in the news industry,
(25:45):
I'm told what a big deal it is. When happens
in any other industry, I'm told those people should learn
to code.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
And so I'm not.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I won't bring myself to shed tears at all for
the news industry.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Of course, you're losing jobs. The whole world is changing.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
The industry has changed, and you're not vaunted because you
haven't taken care of us. And we should not care.
If a if a news outlet which gave us dan
rather and so desperately. I mean, listen, he made up
stories about George Bush and they engaged in editing a
(26:24):
video of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
This isn't about your politics. It's about what they did.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
And now they're they're losing jobs because people are going
on the places the sponsors are going other places, and
technology is coming in. Yeah, and and maybe maybe it
does get personal for me. And I shouldn't be a
guy who engages this personally. I should be like, yes, well,
you know, the industry changes, but there is a little
bit of personal in it for me in that these
(26:49):
people they.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Didn't take care of the American people.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Well, so I'm not going to say anything except I
hope it all works out.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I prefer it when you do take it personally. Well, then, uh,
then I'll get to that next.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Fingers Maloy, there are allegedly things that men do with
a midlife crisis, things they do in a midlife crisis,
things they do when they're around a midlife crisis.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Is that true or is that just a media narrative. Oh?
I think it's probably true.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Huh what if your whole life has been a crisis,
almost your entire life?
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Pretty sure? You do a radio showing podcast there it
is d Drink Smoke.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Fingers Maloy.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Are the people over at vegeoutmag dot com.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
What kind of free.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Time do you have, fingers Maloy, there's sometimes Tony where
I just sit back and want.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
To vege out.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
You're like, I need a magazine help me through this,
and thank god we have veg Out mag Dot. Come
I do you are you subscriber? You kick the monthly
magazine delivered to your house.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
All I know is saying the words vetg Out mag
sounds dirty. It does a little bit. It's not right
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Eight purchases men make that screen midlife crisis louder than
a red sports card. And we have discussed the fact
that I will speak for myself, but I think I
do speak for fingers. Neither one of us went through
a midlife No, of course not. But I do find
the whole. Well, we'll get into this.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I will hold my tongue until we get into this
list because I do have a bone to pick with
one of the narratives about a midlife crisis.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
By the way, we switch cigars to the Oliva or
Olive a v A Millennio Robusto, which I always keep
in the human or love you c le will always
smoke your products, just not the flavor is what it is,
nothing more, nothing less.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
So here's the.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
List eight things that prove a what is that a
mid life crisis.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yes, more than a read sports car.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
The home gym that costs more than a car, like
if you get like the full peloton ecosystem.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Sometimes, what, oh, do I look like I bought a
home gym?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Looking like you bought a home gym has nothing to
do with whether or not you've bought a home Jim.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I have not bought a home gym. But what bothers me?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Because I've had this discussion with female friends who were younger,
who when they see a man in his fifties with
a sports car, they say, nice car, Sorry about your
and it's like they go down the whole midlife crisis thing,
and it's like, listen, I tried to explain to them,
for a lot of guys who are passionate about vehicles, okay,
(29:48):
they can't afford a sports car when they're in their
twenties and thirties because a lot of times they're raising
a family and can't get that sports car. It's not
a midlife price. It's this I can finally afford it
inserts sports car here.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
But you're the first person I ever really say that
to me in that way. You know, I was I
was thinking about a Mustang, and I was like, I
don't know if I could be a guy who gets
away with a Mustang. He's like, would you just shut
your stupid dirty mouth and get a Mustang already?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
And you're you're right, And I didn't buy a Mustang.
But the point is, but did you get the home gym?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
I sure did, and I got it with the extra
fluffy cushion.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
The point is, you're absolutely right. The the who cares?
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Who cares what somebody else is going to They don't
know anything about life.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
It's and it's meaningless.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
So sometimes the midlife crisis conversation is nothing more than
the midlife opportunity conversation.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
That's a good way to put it right, and there's.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Nothing nothing wrong with that. Uh, You've you've engaged your responsibilities.
You have succeeded in providing to the best of your
ability to your responsibilities. Now you can change those responsibilities,
go have fun. The sudden Vinyl collection also, I don't
think there's anything to do with the midlife crisis. I
(31:07):
think this just means your pretentious as hell. No man, seriously,
Vinyl has such a richness to the sound. You can't
get that from digital. Man only vinyl can do it.
Here listen by Steely dan Man. Listen to it in vinyl.
If you listen to a digital you might as well
just poke yourself in the eye with a hot stick.
Oh my god, so great on the vinyl, Man, I
(31:27):
got this needle from Turkmenistan. It took four different specialized
priests in order to make it. I had to sacrifice
two cows in order to get this done. Man, this
is awesome. He said that to nobody, by the way,
because it would hang out with him.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Although that said, I do like vinyl. I think it sounds.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
I will say this about vinyl, and it has nothing
to do with the sound quality.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Gen X is kind of the last.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Generation that had the vinyl, and then you morphed into
the CDs and now we're completely into the digital world.
There was something about running and getting that record album
and then opening up the in the you know, looking
at the jacket and seeing the tracks. Maybe the lyrics
were the whole thing was like a whole notes. It
(32:15):
was exciting. Oh those were the days, Tony.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
There's no way to explain to somebody who was not
in gen X the idea of your walkman and cassette tapes,
and then realizing that in a CD you could skip
to the next song yep, and then you could go
back whoop.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
That was revelatory revelation. Do you know what it was
like with an eight track?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
And you couldn't just take the pencil and rewind the
song in the cassette? No, no, no, you had to listen
to the whole crap album to get back to.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
The song you wanted. It's true.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
And the other thing too about the CD was being
able to put a track on repeat right.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
You can't do that with a record album.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
You have to get up, walk all the way over,
pick up the arm, put the needle back on the tray.
And of course you can't do it perfectly. I'm not
a DJ, I'm not Wolfman Jack, and so you got
to put it back on the line just right to
be able to hear the song perfectly.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Again, correct answer? We were looking forward?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Alan Freed, Oh, Alan Freed, Okay, I'll try better next time. Uh.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
The motorcycle he's afraid to ride. No, that's not a
midlife crisis. That's being a schmuck. What's the point that's
being a schmuck?
Speaker 3 (33:31):
I don't understand the point to to be able to
brag your friends you have a motorcycle. It, don't get one.
Just don't get one. Get the sports car. You can
find one vintage that you know isn't a classic for
the same price as a motorcycle easily, just the get
the car.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
But do But do you know anybody who's done that.
I mean we're talking an acdotally, of course. Do you
know anybody who's bought a motorcycle.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
Is like, I just have it to have it? Know me?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Either, what's the I can understand buying a motorcycle before
you go through what you should do, which is gets
go and get safety training and take the classes. And
you bought it for some reason before you took the
classes and then realized, oh my gosh, this is not
(34:22):
for me. Okay, you made a mistake. But to buy
one just to tell your friends you have a motorcycle
and then you're scared to ride it. That what a waste. Yeah,
and by the way, riding a motorcycle is freaking awesome.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Yeah, I'm never gonna do it, never going to do it.
And then here's one the watch that cost his kids
yearly tuition. Nope, Now, you guys know. I work with
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Speaker 1 (35:11):
Pass down through the generations. I love what they do.
Love it.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yes, I've got a Rolex there so actually right there,
I've got a Tutor. I've got a rare Tutor, which
is like a baby Rolex, the Advisor, which actually has
an alarm in It's a ringing bell in the watch.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
Nice, it's super cool.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
A first real time piece I had is a nineteen
fifty nine Hamilton Pinematic.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
I mean I do have a small collection.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
There is nothing wrong with having the one time purchase
of the sub Mariner, or of the Autumnar, or of
maybe for you it's a tag write a little bit
less expensive there.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
This has to do with whether or not you have
fulfilled your responsibilities and you are rewarding yourself. There is
nothing wrong with the reward and that's what make this piece.
This piece is dopey. This piece, this is saying you
shouldn't enjoy the things you enjoy. They should kiss off.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Well, the only thing I will say, shudg out, that's
what they should do. But having said that, I will say,
if you are choosing to watch over providing for your family,
then that's.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Oh big freaking problem. That's that's a problem. Yes, that's
that could be crisis.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yes, I know I have to feed you, but I'd
rather have this decoration on my wrist. Yeah, but that's
that's not even a mid life crisis. That's just not
being a man.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Five thirty is dinner time.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I know it's five thirty, but unfortunately we don't have
any food.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
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