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June 8, 2025 65 mins

In the fourth episode of Sage Advice, host Hamza Khan sits down with his wife—and soon-to-be mother of their twins—⁠Bailey Parnell⁠ (CEO @ SkillsCamp) for a heartfelt and visionary conversation on purpose, self-leadership, and the psychology of becoming. A globally recognized speaker, entrepreneur, and thought leader, Bailey opens up about the influence of her mentors, the transformative power of reverse-engineering success, and why leading with heart is her North Star. Drawing from wisdom like “act as if” and “fake it till you become it,” she explores how mindset shapes our reality and how we can step into our fullest selves. The episode also delves into matrescence—the profound psychological shift that comes with motherhood—and how it parallels the growth required of leaders. Bailey’s timeless advice: 1) Act from the place of the goal, 2) Expect the worst and hope for the best, and 3) Lead with love. This deeply personal episode is a powerful meditation on self-actualization, purpose, and becoming the leader your future needs.

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