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June 9, 2025 14 mins

A listener is asking for help after noticing her friends daughter won't get off her iPad... They got into it and now Keke asks the jury if she was in the wrong.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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it's the honorable Kiki is here eight Kiki your honor fu.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, take it away, please.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
All right, let's get in the courtroom.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
It says KIKEI am I wrong for telling the other
mom at my kids' school that she is raising a
screen zombie. I have a ten year old daughter. Her
name is Lily. She's active, artistic and very social. She
used to be friends with another girl in her great
name Mia. Now MIA's mom, Jessica and I were casual
friends because our daughters, you know, hung out together.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
But lately it's been very tense here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Every time Lily would go over to MIA's house, all
Mia wanted to do was sit on her iPad for hours.
No conversation, no playing, no creativity, just roadblocks and TikTok.
Lily would come home bored and frustrated. I talked to
Jessica about it once, casually, and she brushed it off,
saying that this is just what kids do now, so

(01:23):
Lily stopped wanting to hang out with Mia.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
I didn't make it a big deal, you know, kids
grow apart.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
But Jessica approached me at the school pickup last week
and asks why was Lily ghosting Mia. I tried to
be polite and say that their interests have changed, but
she pushed, so I finally said, look, girl, your daughter
is always on screens. Lily wants to actually do things
when she hangs out. She's not into just sitting around
being a screen zombie. I even brought up how she's

(01:51):
allowing Miss Rachel to raise her youngest child. My kids
are limited to thirty minutes of screen time a day,
so that is what Lily is used to.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Miss Jessica freaked out on me and said I was
insulting her parenting. She said I was shaming her and
her daughter and creating drama. She told a few other
moms that I'm judgmental and toxic, and they've since removed
me from the mom group chat. But I just feel
like parents need to stop using screens as a babysitter
and be a real parent. If you can't leave your

(02:22):
house without your child's iPad, then you are the problem.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Am I wrong? Do I need to apologize?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Judge Kiki girl?

Speaker 4 (02:32):
I mean yeah, I think you do need to apologize,
Like you don't know what her mom is going through,
and you know, I know your daughter is saying she
goes over there and they're just watching screens all day,
but like thirty minutes only a day.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I can't even get through my other Like I can't
get through my emails in thirty minutes.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well, what's the point of even hanging out if you're
just gonna stare at screens?

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Well, I understand saying.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
I have to call the lady is her kid a
screen zombie and say she's a bad mom because she's
watching letting the kids watching.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Miss Rachel Like, come on, lady, well, I mean she asked,
you know you bet don't have to call this a
bad mom. But she asks, why is your daughter not
wanting to come over anymore? And she answered the question
honestly because there's no there's no there's nothing happening. There's
no conversation, there's no you know, bonding, there's no camaraderie.
You go over watch TV like I don't, I don't

(03:24):
need to do that.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
You don't think it's a little judgy when she says
you're not a real parent if you're letting screens be
your babysitter and if you leave home without the iPad
and you're the problem, like, ma'am out my barney back
in the day, that mean my mom was a bad mom.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Let me ask you a question, Giggy.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
If you an eight five five five three five, you
get a call because you guys.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Are the jury.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
If you had a kid, would you want your kid
spending as much time on social media as you do?

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Oh? Please?

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Oh no, but but yes, because what am I going
to do? Is it tain the kid all day?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Absolutely not exactly.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Oh, you guys are crazy.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
So you agree, well, you agree that that's too much.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
I think that there should be a limit. I don't,
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
I don't think just because you decide that thirty minutes
is the limit that should be the standard for all
parents and if they don't follow that, then they're a
bad parent.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
I don't think that, you know, hmm yeah, As a parent,
I think one of my biggest fears is a couple
when it comes to parenting are screens. I know, one
day my daughter is going to pick up she's one,
she's gonna pick up an iPad and she already knows
how to pick up my phone and look at herself
and and and start to scroll. And that does scare
me because I don't want my daughter to be I'm

(04:38):
going to call it an addiction because like I, as
an adult, feel like I am addicted to screens like
my phone and everything, and if I don't have it,
I constantly like I feel like I'm.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Missing something and I don't want my daughter to have that.

Speaker 7 (04:48):
Now.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Is that unrealistic?

Speaker 6 (04:50):
Yes, because she's going to be born and raised in
this era right of the technology.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
It's just the truth.

Speaker 6 (04:55):
But I do believe in limiting U screen time and
access to what they're seeing and have to you on
the screens. Because I don't think I'm no doctor anymore.
I was once to not anymore. But I from my understanding,
it's not that beneficial for your kids to be on
screens all day, every day. Right again, I'm no doctor,
I'm no expert, but it can't be good. So that's
why I feel like she's not wrong for what she said,

(05:17):
but the delivery was completely wrong.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
You don't call another mom a bad mom.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
You don't judge them if you said they could be
going through something you don't know, if it's like a
one parent household, and there's no Miss Rachel Slander on
this show.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Because I love Miss Rachel, that is my co parent.

Speaker 6 (05:30):
But however, I do I do limit the screen time
with Miss Rachel too, even though she's taught my daughter
sign language and other things.

Speaker 8 (05:36):
You know, it's hard, It's it's really hard, I think
with the screens. Yeah, I mean, you know, why parent
when you've got YouTube? I mean just an endless possibility here.
I mean, seriously, why pay for a babysitter? Hey, hey, Kim,
how you doing, Kim?

Speaker 6 (05:52):
I'm good?

Speaker 9 (05:53):
How are you, Kim?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I'm doing great? Thanks for Colin? What do you think
you hear this story? What's your take?

Speaker 1 (05:59):
My cake?

Speaker 5 (06:00):
There's a way to say things, and the delivery was
really bad the way she she said it, she could
have said it in a more polite way.

Speaker 9 (06:07):
She could have handled it, maybe not calling her.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Saying she's the type of mom she is, just maybe
like my child doesn't like to be on on her
you know, her computer, her tablet, whatever may be the case,
as much as as that, and I think she should apologize,
maybe tell her that my delivery could have been better,
and I apologize for how I came across.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yes, she didn't have to call her a bad mom.
But the woman asked the question. She answered the question honestly.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
I mean she gave it to her straight but it's like, oh,
it just sounded so mm hare.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Nobody likes the judge her.

Speaker 10 (06:45):
You shouldn't judge and straight forward. Sometimes people can't handle it.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
You have to be here.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, thank you for calling. Have a great day, you too,
have a great day you called. I love you too, Yah? Hi, Mike,
How you doing.

Speaker 7 (07:00):
So, Mike?

Speaker 1 (07:01):
I'm doing all right.

Speaker 9 (07:02):
Man.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
So this woman, you know, if you just are just
tuning in, it's two moms interacting with each other and
they both have kids, and one mom used to send
her kid over to the other mom's house, but all
they would do is watch TV basically, or screens or
you know, iPads or phones or whatever. And so the
kid didn't want to go over there anymore. And so

(07:22):
the mom asked the other mom more, well, how come
the kids that coming over? And she said, well, because
you're a bad mom because all you do is let
the kids watch TV. Now I don't think you had
to say that, but I think you could say, hey,
my daughter was you know, she likes to be a
little more active than that, and she don't want to
sit there and watch TV. She wants to go do
stuff and your daughter doesn't. So that's the answer, right, right,

(07:42):
I'd have to agree with you.

Speaker 9 (07:44):
My daughter is the same way. She loves being outside
doing things, drawing, building, whatever it is. But if I'm
just going to send her over there to watch some TV,
she can do that at home. That to me, that
that's you know, what's the point of being the kid
when you're just watching the screen. So yeah, I definitely

(08:06):
have to agree. My daughter is very active and she
could have been more tactful with it that that could
have been. But you know, the lady did push her
to keep asking you know what's the issue. So she did. Yeah,
she gave her the response, and then she didn't like
the response, so she tried to make her out to
be the bad guy.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Yeah yeah, Mike, good points. Thank you have a good
day you as well.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Thank you all having a great Maybe what this mom
could have done was invite her the kid the screen
zombie over to her house so she.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Could see a tree.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yeah, you know some activity.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
This is called park free and they have stuff YouTube.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah, let me show you a slide, you know, a
monkey bar or something.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
And I get to a certain extent, this is generational,
Like I know that there are a lot of kids
who interact. We talked about this all the time. They
interact primarily through technology and not face to face. That's
kind of what it's causing problems. It is. And I
have a buddy whose daughter just graduated high school. And
she's a wonderful girl and they're a wonderful family. But
her interests are primarily, from what I understand, playing video

(09:12):
games on the computer, and she'll lock herself in the
room for hours and hours and hours, and that's how
she interacts with her friends, real life people. But his
thing was, hey, that's cool, But why am I paying
to send my kid away for college when more than likely,
for the time being, she's gonna sit in her dorm room.
And you know, she's gonna go to class and do
her homework and then she's gonna sit in her dorm
room and play video games with her friends on the thing.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
We can do that from home. Yeah, And I don't
have to pay for a dorm for that.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
True.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Now, I mean you could argue, well, you got to say,
you know, if you have the opportunity to send your
kid away, then you know there's some growth and all
this stuff. She'll have to fend for herself in some ways.
But you know, if she's gonna sit in the room,
I kind of see his point. It's like, maybe she
goes to community college and stays here until she grows
out of this thing, and maybe when she has an
interest in like sort of expanding her horizons, then maybe
that's when we send her away way, because you know,

(10:02):
does the does the venue matter if you're not going
to leave the room, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
I see his point.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
I see I see his wife's point too, which is, well,
we need to push her out and maybe she'll you know,
have to figure this out when when we're not here
to pull her away.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
You know, Lowland, Hi, Loland, how you doing?

Speaker 10 (10:22):
It's Donald like Ronald?

Speaker 2 (10:24):
It is it is, That's what it says. And I'm dumb,
but it looks like Lowland and uh lo Lonald Lolland
how do you say it like Ronald? I've never see
that name Donald Donald. But the way that she spelled
it was l O l A n D. Is that
how you spell your name?

Speaker 7 (10:46):
L O n A l D.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
That would have helped anyway, So go right ahead. I'm
a dummy, but cr spelling would help. What do you
think Kicky scored?

Speaker 10 (10:55):
So I'm pairing a two three and an almost seven
year old. We limit them to so little screen time.
They get about twenty minutes during the week when we
do their hair, and on the weekend they get an
hour maybe two tops with me and my wife are
feeling lazy that day. And I am not a fan

(11:15):
of carrying a screen out anywhere, like we out, they
don't get our phone.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
You need to learn to be bored.

Speaker 10 (11:24):
You need to learn how to entertain yourself. We'll pack
some crowns or a coloring book like read them in
you I don't care.

Speaker 7 (11:32):
And you.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Read like that.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I would think as a parent, it would be very easy,
Paulina to just hand your kid the iPad to turn
the TV on. And I think at times it's probably
a tool, right Guys like you, you know, when you
absolutely have to get something done or cook dinner or something,
it's like here, okay now. But like if you just
don't feel like it, the whole parenting thing, I think

(11:59):
that could become a crutch.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
That would be me.

Speaker 6 (12:01):
Well, yeah, if you yeah, you shouldn't have kids in
my opinion, if you can't parent, that's number one. But
number two, yeah, you're absolutely right cooking dinner, getting laundry,
doing something I need to, you know, have her in
this one spot.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
We'll put the TV on. Okay, I'll give her that.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
But like the screen and everything with the with the
iPads and the phones like that to me is just
so much trickier too, because I think from my understanding,
TV and iPads are actually different, like as far as
their engagement and like their focus because it's the access
to scrolling. I mean, like I'm not saying it's worse,
but it's not great either for a child to be
scrolling all day.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
We'll get you off a TikTok man.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
I mean, come on, you blowing up right now on TikTok.
I can't get her off anymore.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Don't tell her she's gonna want money for creator fund. Okay, Hey,
thanks for calling. I have a great day. I appreciate
your thank you too.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
Donald not kids need to learn to be bored.

Speaker 3 (12:50):
That's real. Oh, that is so real.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
It is real.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
I think that is actually excellent advice. Yes, I do.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Yes, Like what's it like to just sit for a
with no simulation, just just for one minute, like just
let your brain, you know, breathe.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
For a second. Oh God, is it me?

Speaker 7 (13:09):
She? Oh?

Speaker 1 (13:12):
I said it right? Thank god. Hi, Good morning, Kiki's Court.

Speaker 7 (13:15):
What do you think, Well, personally, I think that the
other mom was wrong for having the one mom.

Speaker 10 (13:24):
Deleted off the mom group chat.

Speaker 7 (13:26):
Yeah, and I didn't hear in the story that the
original mom said that the other mom was a bad mom, Like,
did she tell her to her face she thought she
was a bad mom or that No, that was different philosophy.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
That was her going off at the end.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
She said, if you can't leave your home without your
child's iPad, you are the problem.

Speaker 7 (13:47):
So I don't necessarily think that the first mom is
wrong because she has her way of raising her kids like.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
We all do.

Speaker 7 (13:57):
And then the kid is just not happy going over there.
So the woman kept pushing and asking what was it?
What was it?

Speaker 4 (14:03):
What was it?

Speaker 7 (14:04):
And the mom said, look, your daughter's on the iPad
all the time during the visit, so what's the point.
And I think that the other lady's projecting. She decided that, oh,
I must be a bad mom. You know, she's calling
me this, she's calling me that. And I think that's
how it all blew up, because the other lady knows
deep inside that maybe the first mom is onto something.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
That's she asked and she got an answer and she
didn't like the answer. So yeah, it's true. Thank you
so much, have a good day.

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