All Episodes

August 21, 2025 24 mins

We begin with the myth of becoming a billionaire and land on Naveen Jain’s first principle: wealth is a byproduct of helping a billion people. From there he traces the mindset behind Viome—naming the company and mission directly—arguing that healthcare should move from clinics to homes, guided by AI and deep molecular readouts. Instead of DNA, which doesn’t change when you gain weight or get depressed, Viome measures RNA to see what’s actually happening inside the body and then turns those signals into precise food and supplement guidance. Jain challenges fatalism with an Eastern-philosophy lens—events aren’t good or bad until you label them—and shows how that stance fuels resilience through the entrepreneurial heartbeat’s ups and downs.

Key Discussion Points:
Jain demystifies “overnight success,” likening real entrepreneurship to a living heartbeat: the highs and lows prove you’re alive. He reframes failure as experimental outcomes that simply dictate the next move, and he illustrates how asking different questions unlocks different industries. With Viome, he asked why the field obsessed over DNA when chronic disease reflects gene expression; that shift, plus licensing biodefense tech from Los Alamos, enabled large-scale RNA testing and one-million-person datasets. He explains why there is no universal “healthy” food—what heals one person can harm another—and why personalization beats pop-nutrition rules. He also shares how perceived liabilities, like his accent, became superpowers for presence and clarity, and why founders must make others comfortable while staying anchored to purpose over ego.

Takeaways:
Impact precedes income; aim to improve a billion lives and the valuation follows. Treat life and company-building as experiments rather than verdicts, and resist labeling moments as wins or losses. In health, test—don’t guess—because the body’s changing biology lives in RNA and the microbiome’s activity, not static DNA. Personalization turns farms into pharmacies, with food and targeted nutrients prescribed to the person, not the crowd.

Closing Thoughts:
Jain leaves us with an operator’s mantra—do good and do well—and a provocation: if illness can be optional, founders should build for optionality at scale. The next chapter of healthcare, as Viome envisions it, lives at home, guided by AI, measured by RNA, and delivered by the most personal medicine of all—what you eat.

Get more leads and grow your business. Go to https://www.pipedrive.com/founders and get started with a 30 day free trial.

Ditch the other hiring sites, and let ZipRecruiter find what you’re looking for — the needle in the haystack. Try it FOR FREE at this exclusive web address: ZipRecruiter.com/WORK.

FOUNDER10 - Save 10% on your first six months of a Viome Health Solutions Plan, including Full Body Health Plans, Gut Health Plans, and Oral Health Plans. https://www.viome.com/plans


Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Mark as Played

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

Cardiac Cowboys

Cardiac Cowboys

The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.