What if the very doubts you're trying to silence are actually helping you become more confident? In this episode, I sit down with Kelli Thompson, leadership coach and author of Closing the Confidence Gap, to unpack the truth about confidence — why it's not about never feeling fear, and how curiosity and self-compassion are your biggest power moves. We explore the "But First" mindset that keeps you stuck, the cost of expensive thoughts, and the powerful shift that happens when you start listening to your body's wisdom, not just your head.
Kelli and I dive into real, actionable frameworks for building confidence that sticks — whether you're preparing for a big promotion, leading a team, or simply trying to stop second-guessing yourself. Her tools are practical, evidence-based, and surprisingly heart-centered. If you've ever wondered how to feel confident before you've "earned" it, this conversation will change the way you see yourself and your leadership potential.
Topics We Cover in This Episode:
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The surprising difference between confidence and cockiness — and how curiosity bridges the gap
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Why your "But Firsts" are secretly sabotaging your success
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How to turn expensive thoughts into valuable ones that propel your growth
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Why compassion (not criticism) is the key to lasting confidence
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The 4-part "LESS" model for doing less while achieving more
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How to make smarter decisions using your head, heart, and gut together
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Simple daily practices to build self-trust and resilience
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What your body is trying to tell you — and how to actually listen
If you've ever doubted your readiness, your worth, or your next big move, this episode will remind you that confidence isn't something you wait for — it's something you create through action, awareness, and self-compassion. Listen in, take notes, and don't forget to check out Kelli's book Closing the Confidence Gap for even more powerful tools to boost your peace, potential, and paycheck.
Resources Mentioned:
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Purchase Kelli's Book, Closing the Confidence Gap
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