The Chad & Cheese Podcast

The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

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The Snapchat & Anthropic Hype Machines

June 26, 2026 • 54 mins
On this week's episode: The Football Flops: Portugal woke up, while England was lulled to sleep and Emi is losing her mind over corporate "hydration breaks". The Hype Block: The hosts rip into Snapchat’s new $2,300 glasses (a chunky, $3 billion boat anchor that makes a good-looking CEO completely unfuckable). Meanwhile, Anthropic's CEO is treating his LLM like a "superweapon" that practically needs a gun license just to...
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Shredded: LinkedIn, Adzuna, Autodesk, Microsoft, Deel, Oracle, Fika Jobs, & More

June 25, 2026 • 6 mins
The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.
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Startup Debate: Skills-Based Hiring w/ Maya Huber & Phuong Vu

June 23, 2026 • 31 mins
Face it, "The Resumes" is officially dead, and generative AI just blew it to pieces. With 86% of hiring managers admitting that AI makes it too easy to fake skills on paper, corporate hiring is facing a massive identity crisis. The old way is broken—so what comes next? The Face-Off: In this fast-paced episode of HR's most dangerous podcast, host Chad Sowash moderates a high-stakes debate between two tech founders reshaping t...
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Indeed's AI Bias Machine

June 19, 2026 • 48 mins
If you’ve been wondering why the modern job market feels like a dystopian simulation, the latest episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast is here to validate your existential dread. Chad, JT, and Lieven are back to dissect the tech industry's latest "innovations" with their usual cocktail of empathy, candor, and plenty of well-deserved swearing. Indeed’s Blind Faith in AI Sourcing The Stanford Study: Proof Y...
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Shredded: Stepful, Google, Orbio, iCIMS, NewCore, ZRG, Fortium, & More

June 18, 2026 • 5 mins
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Busting Drug Cartels and Climbing Corporate Ladders: DEA Vet Shares Journey

June 16, 2026 • 39 mins
Get ready for an explosive episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast as hosts Joel Cheesman and Chad Sowash welcome Jack McFarland, a 32-year DEA veteran and former Quantico instructor, to HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast. In this high-stakes interview, McFarland bridges the gap between federal law enforcement and corporate leadership, sharing gripping stories from his rise through the streets of Philadelphia during the crack epi...
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Indeed Goes For The Kill

June 12, 2026 • 58 mins
The band is finally back together! This week on HR’s most dangerous podcast, Chad, Mo, and Lieven team up for a wild ride across dystopian corporate tracking, AI bias, and the shifting sands of global recruitment. If you thought the job market couldn’t get any weirder, you’re going to want to hear this. Here is a look at what the crew is tackling on this week's show: Indeed Goes In For The Kill: Indeed&r...
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Shredded: Meta, ZipRecruiter, Claude, Indeed, LinkedIn, Talent.com, & More

June 11, 2026 • 6 mins
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Marriott Hiring: 2 Weeks to 3 Days

June 9, 2026 • 38 mins
Chad and Joel, drag Meghan Rhatigan (VP of Talent Acquisition Experience at Marriott International) into the interrogation room to find out how a hospitality giant survives a global punch in the face. Marriott used to live in a pre-2020 la-la land where millions of candidates just fell into their laps organically. Then the pandemic hit, the world shut down, and Marriott was caught flat-footed trying to fill 200,000 global roles...
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Google & OpenAI's Job Slop

June 5, 2026 • 57 mins
It is officially Joel-Free June, which means Joel is off on an extended European holiday while Chad holds down the fort with two brilliant industry heavyweights: Emi Beredugo and JT O'Donnell. From boardroom coups and high-stakes acquisitions to massive corporate grifts, the trio dives deep into a chaotic week of HR technology news. Stepstone's Plot Twist JobGet Snaps Up Ripple Match The Job.com Meltdown ...
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Shredded: JobGet, RippleMatch, BOLD, Joblist, ZipRecruiter, Factorial, Stepstone Group, & More

June 4, 2026 • 5 mins
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7-Eleven: 24-7 AI Hiring

June 2, 2026 • 30 mins
HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast Just Dropped a Big Gulp of Truth. 🥤 Think automated hiring is just a cold, heartless robot out to steal your corporate badge? Think again. Chad and Cheese sit down with Rachel Allen, Senior Director of TA at 7-Eleven. She manages over 110,000 hires a year and automated 95% of their store recruitment. The result? They slashed time-to-hire from 10+ days to under three (and sometimes three ho...
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Stepstone's Automation Bias Machine

May 29, 2026 • 58 mins
Grab your pastel shorts and a cold drink because Chad is broadcasting live from Portugal, celebrating his birthday alongside a local bar owner while Joel prepares for a milestone anniversary trip to Italy.  In this high-energy, unfiltered episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the boys take a sledgehammer to the current AI hype cycle, contrasting Workday’s massive earnings and $500 million agentic AI run rate ag...
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Shredded: Workday, LinkedIn, RemotePass, Randstad, Toptal, Adeva, Poppulo, & More

May 28, 2026 • 5 mins
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Our AI Answered 1.8m Questions w/ Patti Tabris

May 27, 2026 • 23 mins
Joel and Chad catch up with Patti Tabris, Senior Director of Talent Acquisition at ResultsCX, to discuss the massive impact of AI on global, high-volume hiring. The Highlights: The Power of "Olivia": The AI assistant that answered 1.8 million questions and scheduled over 100,000 interviews in just 12 months. From Friction to Flow: Patti boosted assessment completion rates from 30% to 90%. Chat-First Applic...
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Deviled Eggs, LinkedIn Layoffs & Indeed's Monopoly

May 22, 2026 • 66 mins
What happens when HR tech giants crush earnings while the rest of the industry faces massive layoffs? In this special episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Joel Cheesman is joined by guest co-host J.T. O'Donnell to deliver a dose of optimistic realism on the chaotic state of the 2026 job market. Before diving into the heavy-hitting industry news, the duo kicks things off with plenty of humor, swapping banter over de...
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Shredded: LinkedIn, Recruit Holdings, Cosmico, Gyver, Saile, Arsenal, Deel, & More

May 21, 2026 • 6 mins
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Ace Hardware: Differentiate or Die

May 19, 2026 • 33 mins
How Ace Hardware Scaled to 100 Years with AI Can a century-old brand out-recruit Amazon? In this episode, Stef Nikitas and Kaleigh Burns from Ace Hardware join Chad and Cheese to discuss "Project Hurricane"—the total overhaul of their hiring process. They share how they transformed a $500k "flyers and softball" budget into a $4 million automated recruiting machine. Key Highlights: Who is this... Grace? The ...
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Hiring, We Have a Problem: AI

May 15, 2026 • 68 mins
Grab your favorite beverage for a special, highly opinionated "just us girls" episode of the podcast, featuring Joel Cheesman and Maureen “Moe” Clough taking the mic without the rest of the usual crew. This week, the duo delivers a light-hearted yet deeply substantive look into the massive worker backlash against artificial intelligence and the brutal realities of today's hiring market. The hosts kick things off with ...
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Shredded: ZipRecruiter, Hirevoice, General Motors, LinkedIn, Deel, Sastrify, Upwork, & More

May 14, 2026 • 6 mins
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