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February 8, 2023 46 mins

Our first guest of 2023 is Xochitl Gonzalez, the multi-talented Puerto Rican-Mexican American writer of the New York Times best-seller "Olga Dies Dreaming" and staff writer for The Atlantic Magazine. She's here to discuss with me her latest thought-provoking article, "The New Case for Social Climbing," and its impact on people of color, particularly Latinos. In our interview, we explore the advantages and disadvantages of seeking higher social status, the right and wrong ways to do it, and why Latinos are more likely to succeed at it. We also get an update on her Hulu TV adaptation of "Olga Dies Dreaming” starring Aubrey Plaza and Ramon Rodriguez. 

Episode Breakdown

Topic 1: What is Social Climbing?

  • Xochitl's definition of social climbing
  • Common misconceptions about social climbing
  • Differences between social climbing and networking
     

Topic 2: The Pros and Cons of Social Climbing

  • Advantages of social climbing
  • Disadvantages of social climbing
  • How social climbing can impact personal relationships
     

Topic 3: Strategies for Successful Social Climbing

  • How to navigate the social climbing world
  • Tips for building authentic relationships
  • Balancing ambition and authenticity
     

Topic 4: Ethical Considerations of Social Climbing

  • The impact of social climbing on marginalized communities
  • The responsibility of those who engage in social climbing
  • The importance of self-reflection and introspection

Highly Relevant Music Playlist: 
Diferente - (Steve Aoki featuring CNCO)
Por Si Volvemos - Karol G and Romeo Santos
Only One - Jessie Reyez

Highly Relevant Podcast
‘Highly Relevant' is a Latino pop culture podcast hosted by Jack Rico, TV host, journalist, and film critic. He interviews Latino actors, musicians, journalists, and media executives to explore their impact on mainstream culture and entertainment.

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