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March 22, 2025 50 mins

过去两个月,无论身处美国、欧洲、台湾还是中国,没有人会对川普新政无动于衷。川普政府决定撤回对外援助,解散了美国国际开发署(USAID),导致众多人权组织都面临关停的风险,最近川普政府还停掉了对美国之音与自由亚洲电台的资助。这一系列举动,都对中国乃至全球的公民社会造成了重大的冲击。

上周末,不明白播客在荷兰阿姆斯特丹举办的一场线下活动中,袁莉与张洁平、Ian Johnson就以“川普新政下的欧洲、中国与公民社会”为主题,一起讨论了:美国的对外援助如何影响公民社会的建设?在这样的时刻,公民社会应该如何应对?在海外参与公民运动可以帮助改变中国吗?身为普通人的我们又该如何自处?

嘉宾张洁平是端传媒的创始主编,先后创办了去中心化的内容创作与讨论平台Matters以及独立书店「飞地」,这家中文书店已经开到了泰国、荷兰;Ian Johnson是普利策奖获得者,他创办了「中国民间档案馆」——一个收录了众多有关中国政治运动和个人命运的文件、档案、书、杂志和纪录片的网站。

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时间轴:

03:29 川普新政对嘉宾们有什么影响?
07:45 如何看待对川普“表忠心”的行为?
13:05 为什么说中国人不必觉得自己懦弱?
17:10 为什么这么多机构拿美国的钱?
25:08 公民社会应该如何应对?
34:29 海外参与公民运动能改变中国吗?
44:50 无力感中如何坚持自己?

相关链接:
飞地书店
中国民间档案馆

相关播客链接:
EP-092 张洁平:活出你想要的中国
EP-067 Ian Johnson/江雪:《星火》——对抗官方叙事的地下历史学家


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