December 4, 2022 • 58 mins
David Green is a musician, author, inventor and rabbi and he wants to help you become more aware of your unique personality and your meaningful path to achieve your purpose in this world.
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Arwen Bardsley (00:00):
Okay, hello, everybody, and welcome today to
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another fabulous interview todaywith David Green. David is an
author, composer and inventor.
And he's worked with some of themost famous names in music, and
he's an award winning filmproducer. But he's on the show
today to help you and me becomemore aware of our unique
personalities and mission inthis world. In other words, what
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I like to call our soul purpose.
So David, welcome today, I'dreally love it if you could
start out by telling us a bitabout you, your background,
where you've come from, to bewhere you are now doing what you
are doing now.
David Green (00:45):
Wow, that's, that's a long story to be made short.
Okay, I am from Toronto,originally. I say the word about
like that. And I grew up withwhen I was 16. All I wanted was
to be successful in the musicbusiness. And I was running way
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too fast and very disconnectedfrom my soul. And my my whole
goal was to be an artist withoutsacrificing my artistic
integrity as mainly as a jazzmusician, but be successful in
the pop market, which seems abit of a contradiction, but
it's, it's what I really wanted.
And I was running very, veryfast to try to get there. And
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thank God I made some progressbecame a staff writer for a
record company in Canada calleda&m records at the time. And by
18, I was in Hollywood recordingan album. And the producer that
worked with me had won numerousGrammy Awards in the past. And
he couldn't accept his awardshould he have won that year. So
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he asked me if I would accept iton his behalf. And as a newcomer
in the business at 18 years old,that was like a dream come true
as a chance to rub shoulderswith all the big players look
like I must be successful if I'maccepting a Grammy on behalf of
this gentleman Jean page. And Iwas very excited that I rented a
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tuxedo and his limousine pickedme up. And we're heading down
the highway to, to the Grammys.
And I had a terrible panicattack, I was so scared that he
would win. And I would have togo up there and accept the award
and in front of 1000s of peopleand millions of people watching
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on TV. And then I was going to,like forget his name or
something. I just was sonervous. And I think that was
the first time I prayed in mylife. Cuz I prayed that he would
not win. He'd be too happy toknow that I was praying for
that. But thank God, my myprayers were answered. And he
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did not win. But after theGrammys was an event that took
place for all the VIPs. Andsince I was a nominated, I had a
pass, I was allowed to go tothis party and they had all
these different rooms in thisbig hotel set up the ballroom
with Count Basie orchestraplaying and they had the disco
room. And then they had this oneroom where there were
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televisions playing the Grammys.
Because if your artistsperformed that night, that
night, they wanted to see howthey did and there was this big
spread of food there. And Iwalked in. And I actually saw
one of my favorite musicians ofall time, he was like my idol.
And he won Grammy that year fora pop song. But he's one of the
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most incredible jazz musiciansalive. And I looked at him. And
he looked terribly depressed.
Arwen Bardsley (03:49):
Who was it?
David Green (03:51):
I don't want to say, tradition of not speaking
badly about people. So I he wasuncredible. But he's like one of
the top jazz musicians stillalive today. And I stopped and I
thought to myself and I had thisincredible vision that came from
above and from within my soul.
That said, you are running waytoo fast to become something
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that could actually bedepressed. What you have to do
is discover your innerhappiness, and then use your
music as an expression of thathappiness, rather than running
after the goal as if it's goingto provide happiness because
there you are looking at theperson who personifies the
absolute success that you'rerunning after. And he does not
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look very happy. And that was tome a tremendous blessing in my
life because at an early age, Iwas able to turn around 180
degrees and begin a journeywhich I call journey to the real
you. A journey inwards to whoyou really are. And I actually
produced an album called theJourney to the real you. That's
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a title song from it. But whathappened was I went to college
studying music composition inBloomington, Indiana, for three
and a half years. And then Istill felt, you know, that was a
different type of artsiness thatI had to live up to. And it
wasn't me. And I used to, forexample, go to a park down the
street, and there was a ditch inthe park. And I used to lie in
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the ditch and just feel like Iwas part of the earth. And like,
I just wanted to separate fromall the noise of, of having to
be this artsy artist and performand be weird in order to be
considered creative. And I justfelt this connection with this
much bigger thing when I lied inthe earth and felt myself, as it
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says in the Bible says that wecome from dust of the earth and
will return to the earth. So Iwas, I was felt like I was part
of the earth. And then whathappened was, I started feeling
certain contradictions in myreligious identity. And I
decided that I had to go toIsrael to truly find my soul.
And so that's what I did. Andwhen I was there, I went to
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what's called the yeshiva wherewe studied Jewish philosophy.
But, but I was there with about30 guys who are all come from
completely unaffiliatedbackgrounds, who had traveled
the world exploring differentreligions, and then came home
to, to their own Judaism inIsrael. And after a number of
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months of questioning, I justfound an incredible connection
between the land and my soul.
And the stage I was life in, inlife, I was at the time. And I,
I still live in Israel, I livedin Toronto for a while again,
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but I'm based in Israel now. AndI became a rabbi, I continue to
do my music. I teach a lot. Istudy a lot. And I'm involved in
various businesses that becauserabbis don't make money. As a as
an inventor, I have technologythat I sell, I patent and sell
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technology. So that frees me upto have the time to be able to
put my heart into trying to helpthis world become a better
place.
Arwen Bardsley (07:18):
So when you said, You prayed for the first
time in the limousine on the wayto the Grammys, do you mean that
literally, so were you was itthat you weren't brought up in
your faith, or
David Green (07:31):
I was not brought up in my faith, I brought up
with a strong, a strong Jewishidentity, you know, feeling part
of something bigger than me, youknow. But when I went to
synagogue, it was just, I justhad no connection whatsoever, I
was just more doing what myparents wanted me to do. And I
would only go a few times ayear, that was, you know, they
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have these big buildings thatsit empty all year round until
Rosh Hashanah, the New Year andYom Kippur. And, you know, I was
extremely assimilated. And sothat actually worked to my
advantage in many ways, becausepeople who grow up in a
religious environment oftendon't they're the religiosity
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has sort of been put on to themas a child. So they, it's like,
there's a point where you haveto grow out of your child
clothes and put on mature adultclothes. And I had the privilege
of being an adult looking atJudaism for the first time. And
therefore I was able to lookwith a much more mature eye and
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not do it just because I wasbeing told by somebody that it's
the right thing to do. And itbecame much more a real part of
me and I was applying it to somany important things in my
life. There's nothing that mademy my music flourish more than
discovering my soul that werethe best music school I've ever
went to was when I was actuallyliving in an apartment looking
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over the Western Wall and theTemple Mount and seeing
everything I was learning itcarved in stone. In fact, I have
a video on YouTube calledJerusalem, eye of the universe,
and it's just me throwing out mypassion for this feeling, I have
to connect it to the actualstone to the, to the ground to
the to the archaeological, youknow, imprints of our history.
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And so I felt that on a verydeep level. And so I started I
had a jazz band I used toperform every Saturday night
there. And I started getting allthese gigs, playing piano on
albums and writing music forvarious projects. So his was
fantastic. I had a reawakeningor an awakening of my soul and,
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and ways of expressing it inwithin context of even though
there's a lot of rules in theJewish religion. Those Those are
sort of like the the base whereit's just like we as human
beings all have certain thingsthat we all have the same, I can
go to the same eye doctor asyou, even though our eyes are
different colors and differentshapes, the doctor knows because
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there's certain scientificconsistencies that that work
through all of us. So to thecommonality that is within
Judaism, and with the laws thatseem somewhat restrictive. On
top of that, it very muchencourages us to discover who we
are and find out what, why didGod put us in this world? And
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what is the specific missionthat I'm here to achieve? And
that as an artist became such afocus of my spiritual
development, because all thatkind of artsy ness and
individuality that I wasspending within the world of
music. Now I was spending it inthe world with life, it was part
of my essence of who I am, andwanting to know why I was
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created, like, whatever, why wasI put into this planet? Why did
my family survived the Holocaustand others didn't? Like, there's
something meaningful that I haveto get in touch with. And, and
that was my, my mission was toget in touch with that.
Arwen Bardsley (11:08):
So So what age were you when you kind of
realized that you wanted todiscover that? And, and, you
know, at what point did you havea understanding or awareness
that it was your soul that youwere trying to get in touch
with?
David Green (11:29):
Well, on an experiential level, first of
all, it was it was my early 20s,that I, I went to Israel. And on
an experiential level, I felt mysoul, which is just as a
musician. Most artists have acertain connection to
spirituality. Some, some of themknow it, and some of them don't
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know it. But when you'rereaching for sparks of
inspiration, that's a spiritualprocess. But once once I started
studying, then it was very, veryopen what I was looking for it
was a very direct exploring whatis the soul? And what is the
soul longing for? And in, in mynew book called pictures of your
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soul? It's all describing thekind of questions that people
think that you can't answerbecause it's all about the soul,
which is spiritual. And yet,we're, we learned so much
anatomy of the soul, how itconnects to the body, why
doesn't fly away from the bodyof its spiritual, all these
types of questions. So my bookgoes through that with
illustration. And it's based ona Hasidic masterpiece called the
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Tanya, which gives you atremendous amount of information
on what the soul is, and whatit's longing for, and how to
lift yourself up from a darkplace into a light place. And
all those types of issues. Myother book is called a book
about you. And that's moreindividuality. How do you
discover what your particularmission is in this world? And
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what is your personality? And soI'm happy to share any of these,
Arwen Bardsley (13:04):
I want to know the answers to all of those
questions. Yeah. So I mean,
David Green (13:08):
you ask me and I'll go from there.
Arwen Bardsley (13:10):
Yeah. So perhaps starting with that individuality
and life purpose, becauseregardless of, you know, how
anybody feels about theirspirit, their soul, you know, I
mean, you know, my belief andyours clearly is that we are,
you know, a spirit in a physicalbody. But, but for more people
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perhaps to start with, it's,it's easier to grasp that
concept of individuality andlife purpose. So yeah, I'd love
to I understand you have amethod of helping people to
discover that. And obviously, Idon't want you to tell us the
whole book, because we wantpeople to buy the book, but just
you know, if you can give ussome ideas of perhaps how people
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should start that or you know,just what your process is?
David Green (13:59):
Sure. Well, nothing I'm saying is anything I
invented is all based onrabbinical and biblical sources.
When we when we learn in the inthe first part of the Bible in
Genesis about the forefathers,so each one of them represents a
certain type of personality.
Abraham was one of chesed, it'scalled, which is kindness. And
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these are godly attributes thathe put into the world when He
created the world. And when Hecreated us, so we were those
three personalities of Abraham,Isaac, and Jacob. We all have
that within us, but one of themis more dominant than the
others. And there's thisprinciple from ethics of our
fathers that says that the worldstands on three things. And
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those three things correspondwith this chesed, Guvureh and
Tiferet. These are threeattributes. And like a tripod,
if you take one away, then thewhole thing falls over. So a
person needs to have all threeof these so even though you can
discover what your essentialpersonality type is, it means
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that it must be complemented bythe other two. So on the other
hand, if you don't give enoughfuel to that essential part of
you, then you're going to falldown into more depressing state,
to a place where you're notexpressing who you are, and feel
like I'm missing out on life. Sothe idea is to tap into your
strengths, and now acknowledgethat the weaknesses you have are
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sort of like they come as partof the package. For example, if
someone is a very kind person,they're chesed personality,
they're loving personality. Sooften, that person has a hard
time with time management,because they are so into loving
people that if they make anappointment to meet you, at
eight o'clock, the likelihood ofthem coming at eight o'clock is
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so slim, because they seesomebody else they'd like on the
way. And they've got to givethem big hugs, and they got to
talk about what's going on. Andlike when we're going to get
together next, I haven't seenyou in a whole 24 hours, this is
crazy what's going on, you know,and they feed the cat on the you
know, that's needs a little cupof milk on the way and all kinds
of acts of kindness actuallyremove them from time, and they
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will come late to someone theyactually love very much. So they
have a hard time with that. And,and there's even way the people
people dress reflects that kindof personality. I taught for
over 25 years, a series ofclasses on this. And what I did
was I gave people, theKabbalistic foundations of each
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of these personalities. And thenI had them describe what would a
person be like if they werebased on this godly attribute of
chesed of kindness. And theywould tell me right down to what
kind of shoes they wore, Ididn't have to tell them
anything. And it was the samelist every time I taught it, you
know, hundreds of times, andthey all spelled it out the same
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way. So I have a personalitytest on my website where people
can actually go, and with 19questions, they can get the
profile of how much of each ofthese personalities they are.
And my book, each chapter isabout the personalities, what
the strengths and the weaknessesare. And then I go on to tell
them about how to make choicesin life and use that information
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in a very concrete way, asopposed to just pop psychology's
kind of use of the thepersonality types. So it's
there's that process of, offinding oneself is by
identifying what's unique aboutthem. And this process helps
them zoom in on it, of course,it goes a lot deeper than that.
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But it begins the process ofdiscovering what is your, the
root of your personality from aspiritual standpoint. But
there's another aspect of that,and that is based on the first
two words that were said toAbraham, which are lech lecha go
to yourself. And he was told todiscover who he was go, first by
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removing distraction, which wasremove yourself from the
environment that you came from,which is one of idol worship,
and one of all kinds of paganideas that that he had to lift
himself out of, in order to seeGod is one he needed that space
to be able to discover his histrue faith. And so removing
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yourself from the environmentthat you grew up in, and also
means the internet, your phone,all the distractions of of all
the social pressure of trying tobe all these things that
everyone's telling you have tobe. So you remove yourself from
that. And that cleans out thepassageway to the soul. Because
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now you can start to hear whoyou really are mindfulness
meditations work on thatprinciple. We move up into
another level beyond that,called empty spaces, is the
title of my second album, whichhas meditations in it that help
you move up the ladder, which Ican describe later but the
second part lecha go to yourselfis the proactive part of
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discovering your personality.
But lech has a very importantstage in that. So even though I
discussed the idea of threeprimary personalities, one
should at least simultaneouslybe working on removing all these
voices that are telling youyou're somebody that you're not.
Arwen Bardsley (19:23):
Yeah, I love that idea of, of going and then
finding the emptiness there. Sowhat are the other two? So you
mentioned kindness, right?
David Green (19:35):
So the second one is called Guvureh. Guvureh means
strength. But it says Who who isa strong person? It says in in
ethics of our fathers who is astrong person. A strong person
is someone who can conquer theirevil inclination, it means a
person with self discipline. Sothat type of person nowaday,
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you'll find, everyone tells mewhere are they at five in the
morning there At the gym,they're there, they have keys on
their belt to open up the officebecause of the first one, and
they turn on the on the coffeemachine, they turn on, on the
printers and they the coffeemachine and, and they, they are
the ones that are always thereto create structure and a sense
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of judgment and, andcleanliness, and they're just
extremely organized. That'sthat's Guvureh. That's the
strength personality that Isaacrepresented. And Jacob
represented what's calledTiferet which is harmony, which
is more something that a personwho is a little more reserved,
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and more in the mind, thatpersonality is a very
intellectual type of personalitydoesn't mean they're smarter
than anyone else. But it doesmean that what stimulates them
is more ideas. And they're verygood at looking at a situation
and not becoming too emotionallydrawn in, by looking at one
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hand, okay, let's look at thepieces of the puzzle here. On
one hand, this person is sayingthis, this person is saying
this, now make a calculation asto what is the right thing to
do. And make sure that I haven'tleft out the mind or the hearts
and the both together moveforward. So their sense of
judgment is very good. But theirvulnerabilities is that they
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start to think they're smarterthan everybody else. And
therefore ego is a verydifficult thing. These three
things are all correspond withnegative attributes as well. So
I don't want to go too deep intoit. But it's all intertwined
with major events that tookplace in the Bible during just
before the forefathers came tobe like, Cain killed his brother
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out of jealousy. The opposite ofthat is chesed kindness to an
Abraham brought kindness intothe world. It was a it was it
was sort of the rebuild whatjealousy had brought in. And,
you know, each one of themcorrespond, but I didn't want to
say too much at one time. Yeah,yeah.
Arwen Bardsley (22:07):
Yeah. So that yes, there's, of course, there's
always, you know, the, thebalancing negative dark side of
of anything, isn't there. So,yeah, that totally makes sense.
So how do you? I mean, youmentioned you know, the phones,
the screens, all thedistractions we have, but how
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would you suggest to somebodythat they try to create the, the
empty space so that they can getmore in touch with their spirit
spirit, their soul?
David Green (22:46):
Well, a lot of that has to do with what people
believe in to start with, I knowthat I have a soul inside me.
And my, the teachings tell methat there actually our two
souls, there's a divine soul andan animal soul. The pure divine
soul is something that is soprecious. And it nobody can
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touch it and hurt you because itis pure. And so no matter what
mistakes you make in life,there's this pure soul inside of
you, which means we all have agold mine deep down inside. And
if a person is digging for gold,and they go in their backyard
and just randomly look anywhere,they're going to be very
frustrated. But if you actuallyknow that there's a goldmine
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there, then every shovel you youdig, is coming closer and closer
to that goldmine. So if you knowthat you have a goldmine within
you, then the process ofremoving static from your
ability to hear that Goldmine,that divine soul, is a very
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invigorating experience initself. And sort of what happens
is starts to build momentum, aslong as you have this inner
faith that you do have a soul,which is something that I can't
even imagine not having, becauseotherwise like, what are we as
human beings, you know, howcould we be communicating to
each other, just like you can'tsee my brainwaves, you know, you
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know, they're there. Because,you know, your deductive
reasoning means that I must havea brain that's thinking, so to
the just being a human being,which is feeling I feel this
spirituality running through me,you know, I know that soul is
there. And I have experiences ofwhere the soul is more
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enlightened than others. So Ihave a relationship with my
soul. And so therefore, peopleneed to allow themselves the
chance to find that soul. Ifthey don't believe the gold
mines there, they're not goingto dig. So regardless of what
level of faith you have, atleast give it a shot. that, give
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it a try to start removing allthe garbage that's, that's
covering up that beautiful souland polish it off and let it
shine. I actually one of mysongs is called candle in the
night. A candle is a veryspiritual thing, it's actually
says in Proverbs, that thecandle of God is the soul of
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man, which is why you see, andmy background is part of my book
cover, which is, you see aselfie look into the phone,
instead of seeing your yourphysical self, you see the
spiritual self, which ismetaphorically represented by a
flame. And if a person knowsthat that flame is there, and so
then you go through this lechlecha experience of removing all
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this, you know, static. And onceyou start to see a little bit of
that flame, when you light aflame in a dark room, it lights
up the whole room. And so whenyou start to dig down deep, and
you just get a little glimpse ofthat soul, then it shines and
can light up a very dark place.
And so there's an advantageactually to the darkness,
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because it allows you toactually see that you become a
vessel for the shining lightthat's within inside you. And
so, you know, it's it doesn'thave to be so complicated. We,
we pray three times a day. Andthat is a meditative process of
getting touch deeper and deeperinto the soul. But people can go
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through a meditative process.
And by becoming aware, first ofall of their breathing,
breathing is a very spiritualthing. Because when the when we
are created says that Godbreathed the soul into man. So
this sound of hay is the fifthletter of the Hebrew alphabet,
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which it represents the fivelevels of the soul that God
breathed into us. So when webecome aware of that, that, hey,
become aware of the soul havingfive levels, we can actually
tune into them. And the firstlevel is called nephesh. And
that is the nephesh is connectedto the blood, which is why we
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feel that the soul is moving allaround the internal body with
the blood, you try to say, well,where's my soul, like, where are
you going to point it's, butit's actually connected to the
blood. And many times in theBible, it says that Dhamma who
nephesh the blood is thenephesh. But that's only the
lowest level of the Soul, whichis connected to the body through
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the belief that there's actuallya higher level of blood, it's
almost like a vapor kind ofblood. So that's where the
physical and the spiritualconnect. And then we move to the
next level, which is calledRuach, which resides in the
heart, which is a, where youcompletely surrender yourself to
this dark space, which isinfinity. And infinity is
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something which, if you let goand and allow your soul to
travel there, it's a very scarything at first, but actually
you're connecting to theinfinite. I love the idea of
touching the infinite. It seemslike a contradiction, but we
actually can touch the infiniteif we allow ourselves to go
there. And that's what I callit, the empty spaces. And on my,
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my new album, there's ameditation that takes you up
into that level of empty spaces.
And then there's somethingcalled the neshamah, which is in
the brain, and something calledhaya and yefida that are too
lofty for us to actually grasp.
So people can climb that ladderof higher levels of
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consciousness, tuning into thesoul, and its various parts,
which is why in my new book,pictures of your soul, the more
you read it, the more it becomesactually something you can
actually imagine being inside ofyou. Because it discusses it,
it's like, you know, if you ifyou don't know somebody, and you
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can't know anything about them,it's a very hard thing to have a
relationship with them. But ifsomeone starts to describe who
they are, then you start todevelop a relationship because
their personality and becomessomething much more concrete. If
you start developing arelationship to what the soul is
and how it's made up. Then youstart saying, oh, okay, now I
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now I know what I'm reachingfor. Now I know what to dig for.
I understand. It's a it's a youknow, it's not just this, this
sort of flame on its own. It'sgot many dimensions to it. And
those dimensions help us connectthrough the understanding what
the soul is.
Arwen Bardsley (29:49):
And so other than doing a meditation practice
or a practice of prayer, arethere any other things that you
we'd suggest on a practicallevel for people to, you know,
do some of that decluttering.
David Green (30:05):
I mean, people have to discipline themselves to, to
look at like, what are theydoing with their time? What are
they running after? Somehow,the, there's, I find certain
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people who are doing tons ofthings with their lives, and
achieving lots of things. Andthere's other people who look
like they're running aroundgetting all kinds of things
done, but they're getting verylittle done. We have a tendency
to want to run and do and dothis and do that. But half the
time, we're just an autopilot.
So what we have to do is we haveto turn off the autopilot, and
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step back and take a big breath,and ask yourself, what do you
really want? What is it thatyou're really looking for? And
take out a pad of paper andwrite down? What are your
priorities? What are you lookingfor? And then ask yourself, you
know, when I get up in themorning, the various things that
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I do with my life, how much dothey have to do with that
picture that I drew on the page,or the graph or the list of
things, and have the disciplinehave the guts to be able to
remove the things that areunrelated to who you really are.
And that's a very simpleprocess, but it can be a very
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difficult one to actuallyimplement. It's worth writing it
out. And, you know, it's anamazing thing, how I've seen
people who have been extremelyinspired. Right, I used to run a
summer program where studentsfrom American colleges used to
come to Israel, and they wereextremely inspired and wanted to
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make major life changes. Butwhat I did was I had them write
a letter to themselves, and theywould read it a month later. And
they wouldn't be able toidentify who was that person?
Because that person was, like,on a high, you know, they were
so inspired the question, who'sthe real person? Is it the
person who wrote the letter? Oris it the person who's now back
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into their whole lifestylemeeting you at Starbucks at a
certain time, then I gotta go tothe office, and then I gotta go
here, and then I gotta go runhere. And if i don't, you know,
I can't exist, you know, and,and it's important to recognize
that, it's, it's a hard thing tohold on to that awareness. And
therefore, every day, you shouldtake out that piece of paper.
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And, you know, refine it andcreate for yourself the tools by
like, there's, there's achallenge that many people have
have of their ego. So forexample, one of the rabbis tells
us that in one pocket, youshould write the verse that I am
created from dust of the earth,which means like, I'm nothing,
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right? And there's another versethat says Bish, really no Ebola.
For me, the world was created asif the whole world was created
for me, which it was because theworld that you live in is all
based around you. But theproblem is, there's a risk of
the ego being inflated when youthink that way. So what at
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times, when you're, when you'rehaving a hard time you bring out
the one that says beach Fellinifor Olam, when your egos getting
carried away, you take out theone that says I'm best of the
earth. Now, those are two verysimple statements. But if you
carry them around with you, thenit has a profound effect on you.
So same thing, the messages, youwant to tell yourself, based on
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the calculations you make inyour life of what you're doing
too much of what you're doingtoo little of where your true
fulfillments coming from. If youmake that like a diary for
yourself, then you have toreview it over and over again,
in order to teach the negativevoices within us not to fall and
and buy into some otherargument. And we have, as I
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mentioned, an animal soul that'sthere to try to pull us away.
And that whole analysis of whatthat is, you know, I go into the
book, but there were created ina way where even the simple
process of remembering whatwe're here to do with our lives,
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and what how we want toprioritize our lives, it's very
difficult to hold on to unlesswe have a constant reminder. So
for some people, theirmeditation would be just to
review what they themselvesbelieve to be true. A person can
be have decided for sure they'regoing to stop smoking, but every
day is the last cigarette No. Sothey it's very, very hard. They
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can be on a diet and theypurposely walked by the ice
cream store so that they'll betempted by the time they get
there. You know So things thatwe know we want, it doesn't mean
it's easy to implement. So weneed to constantly review that.
And so when it comes to gettingin touch with ourselves, we have
to do the same thing, we have torecognize that, okay, you can't
just decide what's important toyou, and expect that the next
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day you're going to be able toimplement it, we need a constant
reminder of commitment, thegevorah that I described before
that type of personality, thatgets up at five o'clock in the
morning and is implementing theplan, we have to wake up like
we're within ourselves toimplement the plan of how we're
going to move forward living whowe really are.
Arwen Bardsley (35:40):
And I know that you have a term called spiritual
self defense, and I'd love tohear more about that as well.
And is that something thathelps, because I know that being
or I believe that being aware ofour of our self, about spirit,
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being in touch with that, beingin touch with our soul, can help
with mental health issues? Forsure. So I am not sure whether
the spiritual self defense helpswith that, or if that's two
separate things, but can youjust talk a bit about that as
well?
David Green (36:19):
Okay, briefly, the spiritual self defense is based
in the movie The Karate Kid, Idon't know if you remember that
from years back what thespiritual development is
mirrored by the physicaldevelopment, which means that we
can learn from developing theskills in karate I just use as
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an example, where if you go tokarate class, you don't go in
and learn how to fight rightaway, what you have to do is
you'll learn how to punch, youhave to learn how to kick, you
have to connect these littlemodules of punching and kicking
one after the other until youhave a whole routine. And you
can't expect to end up in a darkalley with someone trying to
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beat you up. And that you'regoing to say, well, I learned in
karate that I should punch thisway you there's no time, you're
gonna get smacked around tooquickly. So what we do is we
develop a reflex response towhatever is trying to attack us,
so that we're already ready topunch my, my niece was on us on
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a bus once she's a, you know,fairly strong woman as she, I
forget what type of self defenseshe's she, she was studying, but
somebody she thought someone wasgoing to attack her from behind,
as she took them and flippedthem over. And they she, she's a
sweet girl, she says, I'm sosorry. Like, the person didn't
mean that and she flipped themover. And that's, that's that
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trigger that we have to have,that when something looks like,
you know, we're gonna worry,someone's punching us in the
face, we're ready to respond as,as in karate. Same thing on the
spiritual level. I use theexample of the ice cream store,
right? Spiritual developmentmeans I know that I have the
vulnerabilities to fall andtherefore I'm going to prevent
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myself from going into dangerousterritory, where I could be
pulled. I want to avoid the icecream store and walk a longer
route in order to avoid, youknow, the enemy that's trying to
work me and the strength ofdoing that. You may say, Well,
you're being a wimp, but you'regoing in the opposite direction,
because you can't handle thechallenge. Yeah, I'm going to be
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strong enough to know that Ican't handle the challenge.
That's a strength. So spiritual.
Self Defense is like, oh,there's that voice that wants me
to do something that's below mydignity, oh, I know how to fight
back. And I'm going to punch,when it's time to punch, I'll be
ready for that and say, Irecognize that voice. I'm going
to prevent myself from goingthere. So that's the spiritual
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self defense is learningspiritually, what your
vulnerabilities are, andlearning how to step forward
before they take over you. Andmake sure that it's your divine
soul, the wishes of the essenceof who you are, that's leading
it. There's analogy that we haveof a somebody riding a horse,
right, who's in control thehorse or the rider. So we have
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an animal soul that's like thehorse. And we have the divine
soul, that's the rider. And whatwe want is to always be the
rider in control of the horse.
Now, the horse is a veryvaluable thing. It's a physical
thing. And we don't we don'tknock down the physical world.
The spirituality needs thephysical world in order to to
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elevate it and utilize it. TheHoly of Holies of a house is
considered the bedroom where aman and woman have intimacy and
they're, they're connecting on avery high spiritual level
through that high level ofphysical pleasure. So
physicality is something that weare supposed to utilize. So the,
the rider is supposed to takethat horse and use it to go do
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good in the world, right. But ifthe horse takes control, then
you're in big trouble becausethe desires of the animal will
use the same physicality forimpure things that take you away
from your soul. So spiritualself defense is that ability to
be the rider to be the one incontrol and know all the
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tendencies of the animals. Soand No, no, you can't go there.
No, I'm going to keep you andutilize you to elevate and
elevate you throughspirituality.
Arwen Bardsley (40:41):
Okay, and then what about Yeah, what what are
your thoughts on this kind ofawareness of, of your, your true
self, helping people to dealwith mental health issues.
David Green (40:54):
I myself have suffered from depression in my
life, I've been to hell and backand very difficult times. And
what I've learned to do is seeGod in a very dark place, like I
said, the candle and the night.
If a person, there's a verydirect connection between your
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spiritual health and your mentalhealth, not, I'm not telling
people to go off medication. ButI am telling you that, that if a
person gets in touch with whatmakes them truly happy with what
the essence of their soul, ifthey discover what is unique
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about their soul, and what theirsoul mission is in this world,
then the person can then startto utilize that to reach for
something higher thanthemselves. In other words, you
know, in a marketing company, Iused to run an internet
marketing company. And when weworked on projects together, we
all felt this connection to eachother because we're working on
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something higher than ourselves,and all kinds of energy that
that seemed dormant before justcame out and like was able to
thrive because there wassomething more meaningful that
we were all working on together.
If a person discovers what theirmission is in this world, and
invest in discovering thatdoesn't mean they're going to
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discover it in its totality withthe first process of searching
for it. But if they make itimportant to discover who they
are, and what the essence is,of, of their personality, and
what, what what truly makes themhappy, not what the world's
telling them makes it happen,what truly makes them happen,
then it's like pushing a buttonthat energizes them and lifts
them up above the depression.
And so spiritual health and it'spart of mental health, it's,
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it's totally integrated witheach other. And I just know, for
myself, when, when I'm involvedin a projects, you know, whether
it be a business project, or aspiritual project or teaching
project, once I get going withmy creative energy, then I don't
suffer at all from depression.
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And thank god I've been havingfor many years, but but I know
what it's like to be there. AndI also know that the surrounding
circumstances at the time ofdepression, it made a lot of
sense that I was vulnerable toit at the time. Because I was
sort of setting myself up forfailure, setting myself up for
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depression. And what we have todo is set ourselves up for
happiness. And that can be adifficult thing, but yet, it's
so critical.
Arwen Bardsley (43:44):
Okay, thank you.
So I really would love to hearas well a bit bit about your
life as an inventor, like, youknow, how did that? How did that
start? What What was the spark?
And can you tell us anythingabout what kinds of things I
think you said it was?
Technology? Yeah. Yeah, it's andhave you well, how does it come
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about?
David Green (44:10):
It's It all started when I was a little kids sitting
on the floor, where I would haveabout three puzzles sitting in
front of me. And I would work onone puzzle and get bored of that
and then work on another puzzle.
And then my mother would say,No, put the other puzzle away.
But you know, I know I'm notfinished that puzzle. And I'm
going to work on the secondpuzzle work on the third puzzle
and called back and forth. Andthank God I'm ADD, which gives
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me the the restlessness toalways be looking for new
inventions, you know, when I wasthat type of process of putting
the puzzle together, is verysimilar to writing music, where
there's a course is a verse,there's harmony, there's like
and you want to get across amessage and want the emotions to
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be there and they want it all tocome together. So that's an
inventor process. And so I, Ialways was creating gadgets,
whether were there were artisticgadgets or functional gadgets.
But what what really got mestarted was, when I was in the
film industry, I startednoticing some technology, you
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know, green screen technologythat you know superimposes
people over backgrounds. Andwhat I did was I reversed that
technology. And I made it Well,before we and all these various
devices came on the market, itenabled you to stand in front of
a camera. And next you in yourroom in your setting in your
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living room would be MickeyMouse dancing with you. Yet the
the foreground was on a DVD thatplayed through the device. And
so I actually did a wholepresentation for Disney dancing
with a character that I created,you know, singing the song I
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sang to my kids called coochiecoo. And that was one technology
that I sold for a very largeamount of money to investors who
then took it public, but didn'treally make much out of it. But
thank God I got my money beforethey took it in some the wrong
direction. Now I have I have a,I have a technology that's out
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on the market now called Edensoles, which is a type of insole
that you step on in the shapesto your feet right away. And
it's, I remember going to the,to get orthotics, and the doctor
put my foot in this mold, and,and then I finally got these two
pieces of plastic that wereextremely uncomfortable. And I
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thought like, Why did I pay like$700 to get these pieces of
plastic. And I realized, youknow, there's ways of doing this
for very, very cheap. So I Ihave two patents in in the area
of insoles. And right now I'mnegotiating with some major shoe
companies to integrate it intotheir shoes to be part of their
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footwear. I have lots of them.
But those are, that's the onethat I've learned to focus on.
Now, as I say, I'm an ADDpersonality. So a lot of the
chesed nature also is that onethat wants to give out a lot.
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And it doesn't without Guvura itjust gets spent. So I have a
filing cabinet full ofinventions. But if I tried to do
them all, nothing will happen.
So I have to enforce Guvura thatstrength, that discipline to
say, I'm going to choose thisinvention now and make that my
goal to go after that ratherthan trying to just have too
many things to manage.
Arwen Bardsley (47:53):
Yeah, so that so basically, the spark comes from
everyday situations where youjust think, well, there must be
a better way. And amazingcreative mind helps you to bring
that to life, I just thinkthat's incredible.
David Green (48:08):
Well, you have to, you have to be a bit crazy that
crazy, you know, what I what Ido is I think of crazy ideas.
Like when I had something calledLiquid shirt, where if you get a
stain on your shirt, you havethis little marker that you
write, you can color over it.
And that way you it looks cleanuntil you actually do wash it.
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It's just crazy. So what I didwas, I have a process where I go
on to the website of the patentoffice, and I start searching
through patents that seem thatthey could be the same. And I
try to find a window that's wideenough where there's room for a
new idea in between them. And Isometimes will will modify the
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invention enough so that itstays clear from the other
patents. And then I file what'scalled a provisional provisional
patent application just costabout 160 bucks rather than a
$5,000 with a lawyer, you canjust put it in there. And now
it's officially patent pending.
So I have a number of patentswhere I just file them. And that
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way I can start dabbling alittle with with companies to
see if they're interested in andif I find enough interest, then
I'll follow up on that patentbecause I know it's worth
spending the legal fees onsecuring because I do have
interest in the market for it.
And that's the process that Itake. Unfortunately, my lawyers
have been spending sending mebills of astronomical amounts,
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but I have to do it so
Arwen Bardsley (49:45):
yeah, wow. Yeah.
That's that's just incredible.
So I guess before we finish up,it's really important that you
let people know where they canfind all your work and you know
anything Any else that you'dlike to share? So you mentioned,
the personality test that's onyour website that I'm sure will
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spark some curiosity. Buteverything...
David Green (50:10):
My website is called real you project.com. And
at real, you project calm,there's links to my books,
there's a overview of the books.
There's my music just for likean initial, you know, taste of
it. But if you go to David H.
green, on Spotify, Apple Music,all those streaming companies,
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then there's two albums therethat I highly encourage people
to look at. And if you listen tothat, and close your eyes, that
itself, I think, can be a veryspiritual experience. Because
all the songs are about peace ofmind, windows of your mind. Real
you it's all you know, Journeyto the real you. They're empty
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spaces, they're all songs thatare there to help a person feel
more connected to their soul. SoDavid H. Green is for that. And
on on the same website is thepersonality test. Yeah.
Arwen Bardsley (51:08):
The real you project has the personality
test, and
David Green (51:12):
it's not the real you project. It's RealYouProject
Arwen Bardsley (51:16):
Okay. And with the books and things, and they
just available through thewebsite, or are they available
through Amazon or bookshops oranything as well?
David Green (51:28):
Well, the first book was republished by a
company called Morgan James andout of New York. And they are
they are, it was publishedactually to reach a more non
Jewish audience. And so therethey have, they put them in all
kinds of stores all around, youknow, I believe Barnes and
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Nobles. I'm hoping to get intothe airport store, you know,
bookstores. But they'reavailable on Amazon also, and,
but you can buy them directlyfrom my website. Both versions
are on Amazon. And my new bookalso is on Amazon, and also from
my website and in Jewishbookstores. So if you live in an
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area, like in New York, there'sJewish bookstores and get it
there.
Arwen Bardsley (52:12):
Okay. Okay. All right. Wonderful. Well, thank
you so much. It's been a reallyinteresting conversation. David,
I really appreciate your timethis morning. And I'm sure that
everybody will get lots ofinspiration out of what you've
had to say.
David Green (52:29):
And my email and phone number are on my website,
if anyone wants to discuss anyof the types of issues that we
discussed tonight. I have yearsof experience of counseling
people and I'm not charging forit, but I feel people should
feel comfortable to email me andask questions and I perhaps can
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guide them to take an importantstep that will help them proceed
from there.
Arwen Bardsley (52:56):
Wow, that's a very generous offer. Thank you
very much.
David Green (52:59):
My pleasure.
Arwen Bardsley (53:00):
Okay, take care.
David Green (53:03):
Thank you.
Okay, hello, everybody, and welcome today to
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another fabulous interview todaywith David Green. David is an
author, composer and inventor.
And he's worked with some of themost famous names in music, and
he's an award winning filmproducer. But he's on the show
today to help you and me becomemore aware of our unique
personalities and mission inthis world. In other words, what
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I like to call our soul purpose.
So David, welcome today, I'dreally love it if you could
start out by telling us a bitabout you, your background,
where you've come from, to bewhere you are now doing what you
are doing now.
David Green (00:45):
Wow, that's, that's a long story to be made short.
Okay, I am from Toronto,originally. I say the word about
like that. And I grew up withwhen I was 16. All I wanted was
to be successful in the musicbusiness. And I was running way
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too fast and very disconnectedfrom my soul. And my my whole
goal was to be an artist withoutsacrificing my artistic
integrity as mainly as a jazzmusician, but be successful in
the pop market, which seems abit of a contradiction, but
it's, it's what I really wanted.
And I was running very, veryfast to try to get there. And
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thank God I made some progressbecame a staff writer for a
record company in Canada calleda&m records at the time. And by
18, I was in Hollywood recordingan album. And the producer that
worked with me had won numerousGrammy Awards in the past. And
he couldn't accept his awardshould he have won that year. So
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he asked me if I would accept iton his behalf. And as a newcomer
in the business at 18 years old,that was like a dream come true
as a chance to rub shoulderswith all the big players look
like I must be successful if I'maccepting a Grammy on behalf of
this gentleman Jean page. And Iwas very excited that I rented a
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tuxedo and his limousine pickedme up. And we're heading down
the highway to, to the Grammys.
And I had a terrible panicattack, I was so scared that he
would win. And I would have togo up there and accept the award
and in front of 1000s of peopleand millions of people watching
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on TV. And then I was going to,like forget his name or
something. I just was sonervous. And I think that was
the first time I prayed in mylife. Cuz I prayed that he would
not win. He'd be too happy toknow that I was praying for
that. But thank God, my myprayers were answered. And he
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did not win. But after theGrammys was an event that took
place for all the VIPs. Andsince I was a nominated, I had a
pass, I was allowed to go tothis party and they had all
these different rooms in thisbig hotel set up the ballroom
with Count Basie orchestraplaying and they had the disco
room. And then they had this oneroom where there were
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televisions playing the Grammys.
Because if your artistsperformed that night, that
night, they wanted to see howthey did and there was this big
spread of food there. And Iwalked in. And I actually saw
one of my favorite musicians ofall time, he was like my idol.
And he won Grammy that year fora pop song. But he's one of the
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most incredible jazz musiciansalive. And I looked at him. And
he looked terribly depressed.
Arwen Bardsley (03:49):
Who was it?
David Green (03:51):
I don't want to say, tradition of not speaking
badly about people. So I he wasuncredible. But he's like one of
the top jazz musicians stillalive today. And I stopped and I
thought to myself and I had thisincredible vision that came from
above and from within my soul.
That said, you are running waytoo fast to become something
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that could actually bedepressed. What you have to do
is discover your innerhappiness, and then use your
music as an expression of thathappiness, rather than running
after the goal as if it's goingto provide happiness because
there you are looking at theperson who personifies the
absolute success that you'rerunning after. And he does not
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look very happy. And that was tome a tremendous blessing in my
life because at an early age, Iwas able to turn around 180
degrees and begin a journeywhich I call journey to the real
you. A journey inwards to whoyou really are. And I actually
produced an album called theJourney to the real you. That's
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a title song from it. But whathappened was I went to college
studying music composition inBloomington, Indiana, for three
and a half years. And then Istill felt, you know, that was a
different type of artsiness thatI had to live up to. And it
wasn't me. And I used to, forexample, go to a park down the
street, and there was a ditch inthe park. And I used to lie in
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the ditch and just feel like Iwas part of the earth. And like,
I just wanted to separate fromall the noise of, of having to
be this artsy artist and performand be weird in order to be
considered creative. And I justfelt this connection with this
much bigger thing when I lied inthe earth and felt myself, as it
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says in the Bible says that wecome from dust of the earth and
will return to the earth. So Iwas, I was felt like I was part
of the earth. And then whathappened was, I started feeling
certain contradictions in myreligious identity. And I
decided that I had to go toIsrael to truly find my soul.
And so that's what I did. Andwhen I was there, I went to
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what's called the yeshiva wherewe studied Jewish philosophy.
But, but I was there with about30 guys who are all come from
completely unaffiliatedbackgrounds, who had traveled
the world exploring differentreligions, and then came home
to, to their own Judaism inIsrael. And after a number of
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months of questioning, I justfound an incredible connection
between the land and my soul.
And the stage I was life in, inlife, I was at the time. And I,
I still live in Israel, I livedin Toronto for a while again,
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but I'm based in Israel now. AndI became a rabbi, I continue to
do my music. I teach a lot. Istudy a lot. And I'm involved in
various businesses that becauserabbis don't make money. As a as
an inventor, I have technologythat I sell, I patent and sell
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technology. So that frees me upto have the time to be able to
put my heart into trying to helpthis world become a better
place.
Arwen Bardsley (07:18):
So when you said, You prayed for the first
time in the limousine on the wayto the Grammys, do you mean that
literally, so were you was itthat you weren't brought up in
your faith, or
David Green (07:31):
I was not brought up in my faith, I brought up
with a strong, a strong Jewishidentity, you know, feeling part
of something bigger than me, youknow. But when I went to
synagogue, it was just, I justhad no connection whatsoever, I
was just more doing what myparents wanted me to do. And I
would only go a few times ayear, that was, you know, they
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have these big buildings thatsit empty all year round until
Rosh Hashanah, the New Year andYom Kippur. And, you know, I was
extremely assimilated. And sothat actually worked to my
advantage in many ways, becausepeople who grow up in a
religious environment oftendon't they're the religiosity
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has sort of been put on to themas a child. So they, it's like,
there's a point where you haveto grow out of your child
clothes and put on mature adultclothes. And I had the privilege
of being an adult looking atJudaism for the first time. And
therefore I was able to lookwith a much more mature eye and
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not do it just because I wasbeing told by somebody that it's
the right thing to do. And itbecame much more a real part of
me and I was applying it to somany important things in my
life. There's nothing that mademy my music flourish more than
discovering my soul that werethe best music school I've ever
went to was when I was actuallyliving in an apartment looking
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over the Western Wall and theTemple Mount and seeing
everything I was learning itcarved in stone. In fact, I have
a video on YouTube calledJerusalem, eye of the universe,
and it's just me throwing out mypassion for this feeling, I have
to connect it to the actualstone to the, to the ground to
the to the archaeological, youknow, imprints of our history.
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And so I felt that on a verydeep level. And so I started I
had a jazz band I used toperform every Saturday night
there. And I started getting allthese gigs, playing piano on
albums and writing music forvarious projects. So his was
fantastic. I had a reawakeningor an awakening of my soul and,
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and ways of expressing it inwithin context of even though
there's a lot of rules in theJewish religion. Those Those are
sort of like the the base whereit's just like we as human
beings all have certain thingsthat we all have the same, I can
go to the same eye doctor asyou, even though our eyes are
different colors and differentshapes, the doctor knows because
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there's certain scientificconsistencies that that work
through all of us. So to thecommonality that is within
Judaism, and with the laws thatseem somewhat restrictive. On
top of that, it very muchencourages us to discover who we
are and find out what, why didGod put us in this world? And
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what is the specific missionthat I'm here to achieve? And
that as an artist became such afocus of my spiritual
development, because all thatkind of artsy ness and
individuality that I wasspending within the world of
music. Now I was spending it inthe world with life, it was part
of my essence of who I am, andwanting to know why I was
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created, like, whatever, why wasI put into this planet? Why did
my family survived the Holocaustand others didn't? Like, there's
something meaningful that I haveto get in touch with. And, and
that was my, my mission was toget in touch with that.
Arwen Bardsley (11:08):
So So what age were you when you kind of
realized that you wanted todiscover that? And, and, you
know, at what point did you havea understanding or awareness
that it was your soul that youwere trying to get in touch
with?
David Green (11:29):
Well, on an experiential level, first of
all, it was it was my early 20s,that I, I went to Israel. And on
an experiential level, I felt mysoul, which is just as a
musician. Most artists have acertain connection to
spirituality. Some, some of themknow it, and some of them don't
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know it. But when you'rereaching for sparks of
inspiration, that's a spiritualprocess. But once once I started
studying, then it was very, veryopen what I was looking for it
was a very direct exploring whatis the soul? And what is the
soul longing for? And in, in mynew book called pictures of your
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soul? It's all describing thekind of questions that people
think that you can't answerbecause it's all about the soul,
which is spiritual. And yet,we're, we learned so much
anatomy of the soul, how itconnects to the body, why
doesn't fly away from the bodyof its spiritual, all these
types of questions. So my bookgoes through that with
illustration. And it's based ona Hasidic masterpiece called the
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Tanya, which gives you atremendous amount of information
on what the soul is, and whatit's longing for, and how to
lift yourself up from a darkplace into a light place. And
all those types of issues. Myother book is called a book
about you. And that's moreindividuality. How do you
discover what your particularmission is in this world? And
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what is your personality? And soI'm happy to share any of these,
Arwen Bardsley (13:04):
I want to know the answers to all of those
questions. Yeah. So I mean,
David Green (13:08):
you ask me and I'll go from there.
Arwen Bardsley (13:10):
Yeah. So perhaps starting with that individuality
and life purpose, becauseregardless of, you know, how
anybody feels about theirspirit, their soul, you know, I
mean, you know, my belief andyours clearly is that we are,
you know, a spirit in a physicalbody. But, but for more people
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perhaps to start with, it's,it's easier to grasp that
concept of individuality andlife purpose. So yeah, I'd love
to I understand you have amethod of helping people to
discover that. And obviously, Idon't want you to tell us the
whole book, because we wantpeople to buy the book, but just
you know, if you can give ussome ideas of perhaps how people
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should start that or you know,just what your process is?
David Green (13:59):
Sure. Well, nothing I'm saying is anything I
invented is all based onrabbinical and biblical sources.
When we when we learn in the inthe first part of the Bible in
Genesis about the forefathers,so each one of them represents a
certain type of personality.
Abraham was one of chesed, it'scalled, which is kindness. And
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these are godly attributes thathe put into the world when He
created the world. And when Hecreated us, so we were those
three personalities of Abraham,Isaac, and Jacob. We all have
that within us, but one of themis more dominant than the
others. And there's thisprinciple from ethics of our
fathers that says that the worldstands on three things. And
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those three things correspondwith this chesed, Guvureh and
Tiferet. These are threeattributes. And like a tripod,
if you take one away, then thewhole thing falls over. So a
person needs to have all threeof these so even though you can
discover what your essentialpersonality type is, it means
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that it must be complemented bythe other two. So on the other
hand, if you don't give enoughfuel to that essential part of
you, then you're going to falldown into more depressing state,
to a place where you're notexpressing who you are, and feel
like I'm missing out on life. Sothe idea is to tap into your
strengths, and now acknowledgethat the weaknesses you have are
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sort of like they come as partof the package. For example, if
someone is a very kind person,they're chesed personality,
they're loving personality. Sooften, that person has a hard
time with time management,because they are so into loving
people that if they make anappointment to meet you, at
eight o'clock, the likelihood ofthem coming at eight o'clock is
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so slim, because they seesomebody else they'd like on the
way. And they've got to givethem big hugs, and they got to
talk about what's going on. Andlike when we're going to get
together next, I haven't seenyou in a whole 24 hours, this is
crazy what's going on, you know,and they feed the cat on the you
know, that's needs a little cupof milk on the way and all kinds
of acts of kindness actuallyremove them from time, and they
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will come late to someone theyactually love very much. So they
have a hard time with that. And,and there's even way the people
people dress reflects that kindof personality. I taught for
over 25 years, a series ofclasses on this. And what I did
was I gave people, theKabbalistic foundations of each
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of these personalities. And thenI had them describe what would a
person be like if they werebased on this godly attribute of
chesed of kindness. And theywould tell me right down to what
kind of shoes they wore, Ididn't have to tell them
anything. And it was the samelist every time I taught it, you
know, hundreds of times, andthey all spelled it out the same
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way. So I have a personalitytest on my website where people
can actually go, and with 19questions, they can get the
profile of how much of each ofthese personalities they are.
And my book, each chapter isabout the personalities, what
the strengths and the weaknessesare. And then I go on to tell
them about how to make choicesin life and use that information
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in a very concrete way, asopposed to just pop psychology's
kind of use of the thepersonality types. So it's
there's that process of, offinding oneself is by
identifying what's unique aboutthem. And this process helps
them zoom in on it, of course,it goes a lot deeper than that.
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But it begins the process ofdiscovering what is your, the
root of your personality from aspiritual standpoint. But
there's another aspect of that,and that is based on the first
two words that were said toAbraham, which are lech lecha go
to yourself. And he was told todiscover who he was go, first by
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removing distraction, which wasremove yourself from the
environment that you came from,which is one of idol worship,
and one of all kinds of paganideas that that he had to lift
himself out of, in order to seeGod is one he needed that space
to be able to discover his histrue faith. And so removing
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yourself from the environmentthat you grew up in, and also
means the internet, your phone,all the distractions of of all
the social pressure of trying tobe all these things that
everyone's telling you have tobe. So you remove yourself from
that. And that cleans out thepassageway to the soul. Because
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now you can start to hear whoyou really are mindfulness
meditations work on thatprinciple. We move up into
another level beyond that,called empty spaces, is the
title of my second album, whichhas meditations in it that help
you move up the ladder, which Ican describe later but the
second part lecha go to yourselfis the proactive part of
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discovering your personality.
But lech has a very importantstage in that. So even though I
discussed the idea of threeprimary personalities, one
should at least simultaneouslybe working on removing all these
voices that are telling youyou're somebody that you're not.
Arwen Bardsley (19:23):
Yeah, I love that idea of, of going and then
finding the emptiness there. Sowhat are the other two? So you
mentioned kindness, right?
David Green (19:35):
So the second one is called Guvureh. Guvureh means
strength. But it says Who who isa strong person? It says in in
ethics of our fathers who is astrong person. A strong person
is someone who can conquer theirevil inclination, it means a
person with self discipline. Sothat type of person nowaday,
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you'll find, everyone tells mewhere are they at five in the
morning there At the gym,they're there, they have keys on
their belt to open up the officebecause of the first one, and
they turn on the on the coffeemachine, they turn on, on the
printers and they the coffeemachine and, and they, they are
the ones that are always thereto create structure and a sense
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of judgment and, andcleanliness, and they're just
extremely organized. That'sthat's Guvureh. That's the
strength personality that Isaacrepresented. And Jacob
represented what's calledTiferet which is harmony, which
is more something that a personwho is a little more reserved,
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and more in the mind, thatpersonality is a very
intellectual type of personalitydoesn't mean they're smarter
than anyone else. But it doesmean that what stimulates them
is more ideas. And they're verygood at looking at a situation
and not becoming too emotionallydrawn in, by looking at one
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hand, okay, let's look at thepieces of the puzzle here. On
one hand, this person is sayingthis, this person is saying
this, now make a calculation asto what is the right thing to
do. And make sure that I haven'tleft out the mind or the hearts
and the both together moveforward. So their sense of
judgment is very good. But theirvulnerabilities is that they
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start to think they're smarterthan everybody else. And
therefore ego is a verydifficult thing. These three
things are all correspond withnegative attributes as well. So
I don't want to go too deep intoit. But it's all intertwined
with major events that tookplace in the Bible during just
before the forefathers came tobe like, Cain killed his brother
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out of jealousy. The opposite ofthat is chesed kindness to an
Abraham brought kindness intothe world. It was a it was it
was sort of the rebuild whatjealousy had brought in. And,
you know, each one of themcorrespond, but I didn't want to
say too much at one time. Yeah,yeah.
Arwen Bardsley (22:07):
Yeah. So that yes, there's, of course, there's
always, you know, the, thebalancing negative dark side of
of anything, isn't there. So,yeah, that totally makes sense.
So how do you? I mean, youmentioned you know, the phones,
the screens, all thedistractions we have, but how
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would you suggest to somebodythat they try to create the, the
empty space so that they can getmore in touch with their spirit
spirit, their soul?
David Green (22:46):
Well, a lot of that has to do with what people
believe in to start with, I knowthat I have a soul inside me.
And my, the teachings tell methat there actually our two
souls, there's a divine soul andan animal soul. The pure divine
soul is something that is soprecious. And it nobody can
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touch it and hurt you because itis pure. And so no matter what
mistakes you make in life,there's this pure soul inside of
you, which means we all have agold mine deep down inside. And
if a person is digging for gold,and they go in their backyard
and just randomly look anywhere,they're going to be very
frustrated. But if you actuallyknow that there's a goldmine
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there, then every shovel you youdig, is coming closer and closer
to that goldmine. So if you knowthat you have a goldmine within
you, then the process ofremoving static from your
ability to hear that Goldmine,that divine soul, is a very
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invigorating experience initself. And sort of what happens
is starts to build momentum, aslong as you have this inner
faith that you do have a soul,which is something that I can't
even imagine not having, becauseotherwise like, what are we as
human beings, you know, howcould we be communicating to
each other, just like you can'tsee my brainwaves, you know, you
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know, they're there. Because,you know, your deductive
reasoning means that I must havea brain that's thinking, so to
the just being a human being,which is feeling I feel this
spirituality running through me,you know, I know that soul is
there. And I have experiences ofwhere the soul is more
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enlightened than others. So Ihave a relationship with my
soul. And so therefore, peopleneed to allow themselves the
chance to find that soul. Ifthey don't believe the gold
mines there, they're not goingto dig. So regardless of what
level of faith you have, atleast give it a shot. that, give
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it a try to start removing allthe garbage that's, that's
covering up that beautiful souland polish it off and let it
shine. I actually one of mysongs is called candle in the
night. A candle is a veryspiritual thing, it's actually
says in Proverbs, that thecandle of God is the soul of
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man, which is why you see, andmy background is part of my book
cover, which is, you see aselfie look into the phone,
instead of seeing your yourphysical self, you see the
spiritual self, which ismetaphorically represented by a
flame. And if a person knowsthat that flame is there, and so
then you go through this lechlecha experience of removing all
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this, you know, static. And onceyou start to see a little bit of
that flame, when you light aflame in a dark room, it lights
up the whole room. And so whenyou start to dig down deep, and
you just get a little glimpse ofthat soul, then it shines and
can light up a very dark place.
And so there's an advantageactually to the darkness,
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because it allows you toactually see that you become a
vessel for the shining lightthat's within inside you. And
so, you know, it's it doesn'thave to be so complicated. We,
we pray three times a day. Andthat is a meditative process of
getting touch deeper and deeperinto the soul. But people can go
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through a meditative process.
And by becoming aware, first ofall of their breathing,
breathing is a very spiritualthing. Because when the when we
are created says that Godbreathed the soul into man. So
this sound of hay is the fifthletter of the Hebrew alphabet,
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which it represents the fivelevels of the soul that God
breathed into us. So when webecome aware of that, that, hey,
become aware of the soul havingfive levels, we can actually
tune into them. And the firstlevel is called nephesh. And
that is the nephesh is connectedto the blood, which is why we
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feel that the soul is moving allaround the internal body with
the blood, you try to say, well,where's my soul, like, where are
you going to point it's, butit's actually connected to the
blood. And many times in theBible, it says that Dhamma who
nephesh the blood is thenephesh. But that's only the
lowest level of the Soul, whichis connected to the body through
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the belief that there's actuallya higher level of blood, it's
almost like a vapor kind ofblood. So that's where the
physical and the spiritualconnect. And then we move to the
next level, which is calledRuach, which resides in the
heart, which is a, where youcompletely surrender yourself to
this dark space, which isinfinity. And infinity is
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something which, if you let goand and allow your soul to
travel there, it's a very scarything at first, but actually
you're connecting to theinfinite. I love the idea of
touching the infinite. It seemslike a contradiction, but we
actually can touch the infiniteif we allow ourselves to go
there. And that's what I callit, the empty spaces. And on my,
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my new album, there's ameditation that takes you up
into that level of empty spaces.
And then there's somethingcalled the neshamah, which is in
the brain, and something calledhaya and yefida that are too
lofty for us to actually grasp.
So people can climb that ladderof higher levels of
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consciousness, tuning into thesoul, and its various parts,
which is why in my new book,pictures of your soul, the more
you read it, the more it becomesactually something you can
actually imagine being inside ofyou. Because it discusses it,
it's like, you know, if you ifyou don't know somebody, and you
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can't know anything about them,it's a very hard thing to have a
relationship with them. But ifsomeone starts to describe who
they are, then you start todevelop a relationship because
their personality and becomessomething much more concrete. If
you start developing arelationship to what the soul is
and how it's made up. Then youstart saying, oh, okay, now I
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now I know what I'm reachingfor. Now I know what to dig for.
I understand. It's a it's a youknow, it's not just this, this
sort of flame on its own. It'sgot many dimensions to it. And
those dimensions help us connectthrough the understanding what
the soul is.
Arwen Bardsley (29:49):
And so other than doing a meditation practice
or a practice of prayer, arethere any other things that you
we'd suggest on a practicallevel for people to, you know,
do some of that decluttering.
David Green (30:05):
I mean, people have to discipline themselves to, to
look at like, what are theydoing with their time? What are
they running after? Somehow,the, there's, I find certain
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people who are doing tons ofthings with their lives, and
achieving lots of things. Andthere's other people who look
like they're running aroundgetting all kinds of things
done, but they're getting verylittle done. We have a tendency
to want to run and do and dothis and do that. But half the
time, we're just an autopilot.
So what we have to do is we haveto turn off the autopilot, and
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step back and take a big breath,and ask yourself, what do you
really want? What is it thatyou're really looking for? And
take out a pad of paper andwrite down? What are your
priorities? What are you lookingfor? And then ask yourself, you
know, when I get up in themorning, the various things that
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I do with my life, how much dothey have to do with that
picture that I drew on the page,or the graph or the list of
things, and have the disciplinehave the guts to be able to
remove the things that areunrelated to who you really are.
And that's a very simpleprocess, but it can be a very
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difficult one to actuallyimplement. It's worth writing it
out. And, you know, it's anamazing thing, how I've seen
people who have been extremelyinspired. Right, I used to run a
summer program where studentsfrom American colleges used to
come to Israel, and they wereextremely inspired and wanted to
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make major life changes. Butwhat I did was I had them write
a letter to themselves, and theywould read it a month later. And
they wouldn't be able toidentify who was that person?
Because that person was, like,on a high, you know, they were
so inspired the question, who'sthe real person? Is it the
person who wrote the letter? Oris it the person who's now back
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into their whole lifestylemeeting you at Starbucks at a
certain time, then I gotta go tothe office, and then I gotta go
here, and then I gotta go runhere. And if i don't, you know,
I can't exist, you know, and,and it's important to recognize
that, it's, it's a hard thing tohold on to that awareness. And
therefore, every day, you shouldtake out that piece of paper.
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And, you know, refine it andcreate for yourself the tools by
like, there's, there's achallenge that many people have
have of their ego. So forexample, one of the rabbis tells
us that in one pocket, youshould write the verse that I am
created from dust of the earth,which means like, I'm nothing,
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right? And there's another versethat says Bish, really no Ebola.
For me, the world was created asif the whole world was created
for me, which it was because theworld that you live in is all
based around you. But theproblem is, there's a risk of
the ego being inflated when youthink that way. So what at
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times, when you're, when you'rehaving a hard time you bring out
the one that says beach Fellinifor Olam, when your egos getting
carried away, you take out theone that says I'm best of the
earth. Now, those are two verysimple statements. But if you
carry them around with you, thenit has a profound effect on you.
So same thing, the messages, youwant to tell yourself, based on
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the calculations you make inyour life of what you're doing
too much of what you're doingtoo little of where your true
fulfillments coming from. If youmake that like a diary for
yourself, then you have toreview it over and over again,
in order to teach the negativevoices within us not to fall and
and buy into some otherargument. And we have, as I
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mentioned, an animal soul that'sthere to try to pull us away.
And that whole analysis of whatthat is, you know, I go into the
book, but there were created ina way where even the simple
process of remembering whatwe're here to do with our lives,
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and what how we want toprioritize our lives, it's very
difficult to hold on to unlesswe have a constant reminder. So
for some people, theirmeditation would be just to
review what they themselvesbelieve to be true. A person can
be have decided for sure they'regoing to stop smoking, but every
day is the last cigarette No. Sothey it's very, very hard. They
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can be on a diet and theypurposely walked by the ice
cream store so that they'll betempted by the time they get
there. You know So things thatwe know we want, it doesn't mean
it's easy to implement. So weneed to constantly review that.
And so when it comes to gettingin touch with ourselves, we have
to do the same thing, we have torecognize that, okay, you can't
just decide what's important toyou, and expect that the next
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day you're going to be able toimplement it, we need a constant
reminder of commitment, thegevorah that I described before
that type of personality, thatgets up at five o'clock in the
morning and is implementing theplan, we have to wake up like
we're within ourselves toimplement the plan of how we're
going to move forward living whowe really are.
Arwen Bardsley (35:40):
And I know that you have a term called spiritual
self defense, and I'd love tohear more about that as well.
And is that something thathelps, because I know that being
or I believe that being aware ofour of our self, about spirit,
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being in touch with that, beingin touch with our soul, can help
with mental health issues? Forsure. So I am not sure whether
the spiritual self defense helpswith that, or if that's two
separate things, but can youjust talk a bit about that as
well?
David Green (36:19):
Okay, briefly, the spiritual self defense is based
in the movie The Karate Kid, Idon't know if you remember that
from years back what thespiritual development is
mirrored by the physicaldevelopment, which means that we
can learn from developing theskills in karate I just use as
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an example, where if you go tokarate class, you don't go in
and learn how to fight rightaway, what you have to do is
you'll learn how to punch, youhave to learn how to kick, you
have to connect these littlemodules of punching and kicking
one after the other until youhave a whole routine. And you
can't expect to end up in a darkalley with someone trying to
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beat you up. And that you'regoing to say, well, I learned in
karate that I should punch thisway you there's no time, you're
gonna get smacked around tooquickly. So what we do is we
develop a reflex response towhatever is trying to attack us,
so that we're already ready topunch my, my niece was on us on
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a bus once she's a, you know,fairly strong woman as she, I
forget what type of self defenseshe's she, she was studying, but
somebody she thought someone wasgoing to attack her from behind,
as she took them and flippedthem over. And they she, she's a
sweet girl, she says, I'm sosorry. Like, the person didn't
mean that and she flipped themover. And that's, that's that
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trigger that we have to have,that when something looks like,
you know, we're gonna worry,someone's punching us in the
face, we're ready to respond as,as in karate. Same thing on the
spiritual level. I use theexample of the ice cream store,
right? Spiritual developmentmeans I know that I have the
vulnerabilities to fall andtherefore I'm going to prevent
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myself from going into dangerousterritory, where I could be
pulled. I want to avoid the icecream store and walk a longer
route in order to avoid, youknow, the enemy that's trying to
work me and the strength ofdoing that. You may say, Well,
you're being a wimp, but you'regoing in the opposite direction,
because you can't handle thechallenge. Yeah, I'm going to be
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strong enough to know that Ican't handle the challenge.
That's a strength. So spiritual.
Self Defense is like, oh,there's that voice that wants me
to do something that's below mydignity, oh, I know how to fight
back. And I'm going to punch,when it's time to punch, I'll be
ready for that and say, Irecognize that voice. I'm going
to prevent myself from goingthere. So that's the spiritual
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self defense is learningspiritually, what your
vulnerabilities are, andlearning how to step forward
before they take over you. Andmake sure that it's your divine
soul, the wishes of the essenceof who you are, that's leading
it. There's analogy that we haveof a somebody riding a horse,
right, who's in control thehorse or the rider. So we have
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an animal soul that's like thehorse. And we have the divine
soul, that's the rider. And whatwe want is to always be the
rider in control of the horse.
Now, the horse is a veryvaluable thing. It's a physical
thing. And we don't we don'tknock down the physical world.
The spirituality needs thephysical world in order to to
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elevate it and utilize it. TheHoly of Holies of a house is
considered the bedroom where aman and woman have intimacy and
they're, they're connecting on avery high spiritual level
through that high level ofphysical pleasure. So
physicality is something that weare supposed to utilize. So the,
the rider is supposed to takethat horse and use it to go do
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good in the world, right. But ifthe horse takes control, then
you're in big trouble becausethe desires of the animal will
use the same physicality forimpure things that take you away
from your soul. So spiritualself defense is that ability to
be the rider to be the one incontrol and know all the
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tendencies of the animals. Soand No, no, you can't go there.
No, I'm going to keep you andutilize you to elevate and
elevate you throughspirituality.
Arwen Bardsley (40:41):
Okay, and then what about Yeah, what what are
your thoughts on this kind ofawareness of, of your, your true
self, helping people to dealwith mental health issues.
David Green (40:54):
I myself have suffered from depression in my
life, I've been to hell and backand very difficult times. And
what I've learned to do is seeGod in a very dark place, like I
said, the candle and the night.
If a person, there's a verydirect connection between your
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spiritual health and your mentalhealth, not, I'm not telling
people to go off medication. ButI am telling you that, that if a
person gets in touch with whatmakes them truly happy with what
the essence of their soul, ifthey discover what is unique
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about their soul, and what theirsoul mission is in this world,
then the person can then startto utilize that to reach for
something higher thanthemselves. In other words, you
know, in a marketing company, Iused to run an internet
marketing company. And when weworked on projects together, we
all felt this connection to eachother because we're working on
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something higher than ourselves,and all kinds of energy that
that seemed dormant before justcame out and like was able to
thrive because there wassomething more meaningful that
we were all working on together.
If a person discovers what theirmission is in this world, and
invest in discovering thatdoesn't mean they're going to
(42:27):
discover it in its totality withthe first process of searching
for it. But if they make itimportant to discover who they
are, and what the essence is,of, of their personality, and
what, what what truly makes themhappy, not what the world's
telling them makes it happen,what truly makes them happen,
then it's like pushing a buttonthat energizes them and lifts
them up above the depression.
And so spiritual health and it'spart of mental health, it's,
(42:52):
it's totally integrated witheach other. And I just know, for
myself, when, when I'm involvedin a projects, you know, whether
it be a business project, or aspiritual project or teaching
project, once I get going withmy creative energy, then I don't
suffer at all from depression.
(43:13):
And thank god I've been havingfor many years, but but I know
what it's like to be there. AndI also know that the surrounding
circumstances at the time ofdepression, it made a lot of
sense that I was vulnerable toit at the time. Because I was
sort of setting myself up forfailure, setting myself up for
(43:33):
depression. And what we have todo is set ourselves up for
happiness. And that can be adifficult thing, but yet, it's
so critical.
Arwen Bardsley (43:44):
Okay, thank you.
So I really would love to hearas well a bit bit about your
life as an inventor, like, youknow, how did that? How did that
start? What What was the spark?
And can you tell us anythingabout what kinds of things I
think you said it was?
Technology? Yeah. Yeah, it's andhave you well, how does it come
(44:07):
about?
David Green (44:10):
It's It all started when I was a little kids sitting
on the floor, where I would haveabout three puzzles sitting in
front of me. And I would work onone puzzle and get bored of that
and then work on another puzzle.
And then my mother would say,No, put the other puzzle away.
But you know, I know I'm notfinished that puzzle. And I'm
going to work on the secondpuzzle work on the third puzzle
and called back and forth. Andthank God I'm ADD, which gives
(44:32):
me the the restlessness toalways be looking for new
inventions, you know, when I wasthat type of process of putting
the puzzle together, is verysimilar to writing music, where
there's a course is a verse,there's harmony, there's like
and you want to get across amessage and want the emotions to
(44:54):
be there and they want it all tocome together. So that's an
inventor process. And so I, Ialways was creating gadgets,
whether were there were artisticgadgets or functional gadgets.
But what what really got mestarted was, when I was in the
film industry, I startednoticing some technology, you
(45:15):
know, green screen technologythat you know superimposes
people over backgrounds. Andwhat I did was I reversed that
technology. And I made it Well,before we and all these various
devices came on the market, itenabled you to stand in front of
a camera. And next you in yourroom in your setting in your
(45:38):
living room would be MickeyMouse dancing with you. Yet the
the foreground was on a DVD thatplayed through the device. And
so I actually did a wholepresentation for Disney dancing
with a character that I created,you know, singing the song I
(45:59):
sang to my kids called coochiecoo. And that was one technology
that I sold for a very largeamount of money to investors who
then took it public, but didn'treally make much out of it. But
thank God I got my money beforethey took it in some the wrong
direction. Now I have I have a,I have a technology that's out
(46:22):
on the market now called Edensoles, which is a type of insole
that you step on in the shapesto your feet right away. And
it's, I remember going to the,to get orthotics, and the doctor
put my foot in this mold, and,and then I finally got these two
pieces of plastic that wereextremely uncomfortable. And I
(46:44):
thought like, Why did I pay like$700 to get these pieces of
plastic. And I realized, youknow, there's ways of doing this
for very, very cheap. So I Ihave two patents in in the area
of insoles. And right now I'mnegotiating with some major shoe
companies to integrate it intotheir shoes to be part of their
(47:08):
footwear. I have lots of them.
But those are, that's the onethat I've learned to focus on.
Now, as I say, I'm an ADDpersonality. So a lot of the
chesed nature also is that onethat wants to give out a lot.
(47:30):
And it doesn't without Guvura itjust gets spent. So I have a
filing cabinet full ofinventions. But if I tried to do
them all, nothing will happen.
So I have to enforce Guvura thatstrength, that discipline to
say, I'm going to choose thisinvention now and make that my
goal to go after that ratherthan trying to just have too
many things to manage.
Arwen Bardsley (47:53):
Yeah, so that so basically, the spark comes from
everyday situations where youjust think, well, there must be
a better way. And amazingcreative mind helps you to bring
that to life, I just thinkthat's incredible.
David Green (48:08):
Well, you have to, you have to be a bit crazy that
crazy, you know, what I what Ido is I think of crazy ideas.
Like when I had something calledLiquid shirt, where if you get a
stain on your shirt, you havethis little marker that you
write, you can color over it.
And that way you it looks cleanuntil you actually do wash it.
(48:32):
It's just crazy. So what I didwas, I have a process where I go
on to the website of the patentoffice, and I start searching
through patents that seem thatthey could be the same. And I
try to find a window that's wideenough where there's room for a
new idea in between them. And Isometimes will will modify the
(48:56):
invention enough so that itstays clear from the other
patents. And then I file what'scalled a provisional provisional
patent application just costabout 160 bucks rather than a
$5,000 with a lawyer, you canjust put it in there. And now
it's officially patent pending.
So I have a number of patentswhere I just file them. And that
(49:19):
way I can start dabbling alittle with with companies to
see if they're interested in andif I find enough interest, then
I'll follow up on that patentbecause I know it's worth
spending the legal fees onsecuring because I do have
interest in the market for it.
And that's the process that Itake. Unfortunately, my lawyers
have been spending sending mebills of astronomical amounts,
(49:39):
but I have to do it so
Arwen Bardsley (49:45):
yeah, wow. Yeah.
That's that's just incredible.
So I guess before we finish up,it's really important that you
let people know where they canfind all your work and you know
anything Any else that you'dlike to share? So you mentioned,
the personality test that's onyour website that I'm sure will
(50:05):
spark some curiosity. Buteverything...
David Green (50:10):
My website is called real you project.com. And
at real, you project calm,there's links to my books,
there's a overview of the books.
There's my music just for likean initial, you know, taste of
it. But if you go to David H.
green, on Spotify, Apple Music,all those streaming companies,
(50:32):
then there's two albums therethat I highly encourage people
to look at. And if you listen tothat, and close your eyes, that
itself, I think, can be a veryspiritual experience. Because
all the songs are about peace ofmind, windows of your mind. Real
you it's all you know, Journeyto the real you. They're empty
(50:54):
spaces, they're all songs thatare there to help a person feel
more connected to their soul. SoDavid H. Green is for that. And
on on the same website is thepersonality test. Yeah.
Arwen Bardsley (51:08):
The real you project has the personality
test, and
David Green (51:12):
it's not the real you project. It's RealYouProject
Arwen Bardsley (51:16):
Okay. And with the books and things, and they
just available through thewebsite, or are they available
through Amazon or bookshops oranything as well?
David Green (51:28):
Well, the first book was republished by a
company called Morgan James andout of New York. And they are
they are, it was publishedactually to reach a more non
Jewish audience. And so therethey have, they put them in all
kinds of stores all around, youknow, I believe Barnes and
(51:48):
Nobles. I'm hoping to get intothe airport store, you know,
bookstores. But they'reavailable on Amazon also, and,
but you can buy them directlyfrom my website. Both versions
are on Amazon. And my new bookalso is on Amazon, and also from
my website and in Jewishbookstores. So if you live in an
(52:09):
area, like in New York, there'sJewish bookstores and get it
there.
Arwen Bardsley (52:12):
Okay. Okay. All right. Wonderful. Well, thank
you so much. It's been a reallyinteresting conversation. David,
I really appreciate your timethis morning. And I'm sure that
everybody will get lots ofinspiration out of what you've
had to say.
David Green (52:29):
And my email and phone number are on my website,
if anyone wants to discuss anyof the types of issues that we
discussed tonight. I have yearsof experience of counseling
people and I'm not charging forit, but I feel people should
feel comfortable to email me andask questions and I perhaps can
(52:51):
guide them to take an importantstep that will help them proceed
from there.
Arwen Bardsley (52:56):
Wow, that's a very generous offer. Thank you
very much.
David Green (52:59):
My pleasure.
Arwen Bardsley (53:00):
Okay, take care.
David Green (53:03):
Thank you.
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