July 15, 2023 • 30 mins
I remember when you guys were little, I'd say something that I would get myself in trouble for often. I'd say, Hey, being an adult just means I'm better at Googling or tubing how to fix something. You guys remember me saying that? I think so. So what I wanna talk about today is there's a few different things.
When we, when we talk about, , really the theme I want to get across is Google has all the answers, but not all the answers are always right. So think about this as we get started on this story, , when I was on this trip that with mom, I hurt my arm. I don't know, did you know about this?
So Gideon knew about this. I did not. When I got there, my elbow, my, like, I had a hard time straightening up my arm. I couldn't remember when I heard it. I thought maybe it was when I grabbed some luggage out of, out of the overhead. I wasn't quite sure, but my left arm just hurt really bad.
And for an example, it kind of looked like a torn muscle.
The only problem is it was like two inches up from your elbow. Like the crook in your elbow is about two inches up when a torn bicep would be. Like right in between the middle of that section of your arm, not right near the bottom. So it was really
confusing. Yeah. And there's really two types of torn biceps, which is all I found out from Dr.
Google. Right. I don't know how many times I've spent time on Dr. Google trying to figure it out. Did Web indeed tell you you were dying? Yeah. Happening. Yeah. Something. Well, nobody could really tell me. But that's, we, we'll talk more about that later. So it could have been a torn bicep, a broken elbow, arthritis stretch marks, you know, Google's coming up with every, sometimes it's the quality of the question that's being asked.
Right. That's it's probably because of your pregnancy. Yeah, probably. , and then today, , as mom was getting in the truck, or earlier this week, mom was getting in the truck and the lights come on says the charging system's bad. So of course, I. Google mechanic. Mm-hmm. . It could be an alternator, it could be a wire that's broken.
It could be, you know, you start looking at everybody else's symptoms and you start trying to diagnose.
I need to interject. I hate Google Mechanic. It's so challenging. It's so frustrated. It's so hard. It's like the worst game of match, like, you know, you know the game where you show all the pictures and then you flip it over and then you have to say that one and that one match and Yeah.
Memory. Yeah. Google Mechanic is the same. It's so hard
because of how many ads and. Pay to be the top spot. It's like I am asking for the best type of Cheeto. I don't need to see this like wonder drug that's up here.
Like for other problems that you don't have at 15. Yeah, it's like four 16, so, so number one, Google.
Google has all the answers, but not all the answers are right. There's knowledge, which we're gonna talk about. Experience, wisdom, and then I'm gonna leave a c. That you guys are gonna be super excited about. Sure. So how much data are we creating every day? How much content? We're obviously creating content right now.
Yeah. But have you ever, , ha have you guys heard, do you know how much content we create? Doesn't. As a world, not just, not just adulting, decrypted less than we should. About an hour
today. , no, I, I remember hearing somewhere it was something ridiculous like on YouTube alone, that there was like a year's worth of videos every day or something.
Yeah.
YouTube. I've heard the statistics for YouTube too. It's crazy.
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Dad (00:00):
1.5 Quin trillion bytes of data created each.
(00:05):
This was in 2018.
They estimated that 90% of theworld data has been created in
the last two years.
So, well, yeah,
Ashton (00:15):
because it's a lot easier to record something
stupid on your phone than it wasfor the Mays to build their
calendar So 1.5
Dad (02:46):
I remember when you guys were little, I'd say something
that I would get myself introuble for often.
I'd say, Hey, being an adultjust means I'm better at
Googling or tubing how to fixsomething.
You guys remember me sayingthat?
I think so.
So what I wanna talk about todayis there's a few different
things.
When we, when we talk about,really the theme I want to get
across is Google has all theanswers, but not all the answers
(03:08):
are always right.
So think about this as we getstarted on this story, when I
was on this trip that with mom,I hurt my arm.
I don't know, did you know aboutthis?
So Gideon knew about this.
I did not.
When I got there, my elbow, my,like, I had a hard time
straightening up my arm.
I couldn't remember when I heardit.
I thought maybe it was when Igrabbed some luggage out of, out
(03:30):
of the overhead.
I wasn't quite sure, but my leftarm just hurt really bad.
Gideon (03:34):
And for an example, it kind of looked like a torn
muscle.
The only problem is it was liketwo inches up from your elbow.
Like the crook in your elbow isabout two inches up when a torn
bicep would be.
Like right in between the middleof that section of your arm, not
right near the bottom.
So it was really
Dad (03:54):
confusing.
Yeah.
And there's really two types oftorn biceps, which is all I
found out from Dr.
Google.
Right.
I don't know how many times I'vespent time on Dr.
Google trying to figure it out.
Did Web indeed tell you you weredying?
Yeah.
Happening.
Yeah.
Something.
Well, nobody could really tellme.
But that's, we, we'll talk moreabout that later.
So it could have been a tornbicep, a broken elbow, arthritis
(04:14):
stretch marks, you know,Google's coming up with every,
sometimes it's the quality ofthe question that's being asked.
Right.
That's it's probably because ofyour pregnancy.
Yeah, probably.
and then today, as mom wasgetting in the truck, or earlier
this week, mom was getting inthe truck and the lights come on
says the charging system's bad.
So of course, I.
Google mechanic.
Mm-hmm.
(04:35):
It could be an alternator, itcould be a wire that's broken.
It could be, you know, you startlooking at everybody else's
symptoms and you start trying todiagnose.
Ashton (04:43):
I need to interject.
I hate Google Mechanic.
It's so challenging.
It's so frustrated.
It's so hard.
It's like the worst game ofmatch, like, you know, you know
the game where you show all thepictures and then you flip it
over and then you have to saythat one and that one match and
Yeah.
Memory.
Yeah.
Google Mechanic is the same.
It's so hard
Gideon (05:01):
because of how many ads and.
Pay to be the top spot.
It's like I am asking for thebest type of Cheeto.
I don't need to see this likewonder drug that's up here.
Dad (05:13):
Like for other problems that you don't have at 15.
Yeah, it's like four 16, so, sonumber one, Google.
Google has all the answers, butnot all the answers are right.
There's knowledge, which we'regonna talk about.
Experience, wisdom, and then I'mgonna leave a c.
(05:34):
That you guys are gonna be superexcited about.
Sure.
So how much data are we creatingevery day?
How much content?
We're obviously creating contentright now.
Yeah.
But have you ever, ha have youguys heard, do you know how much
content we create?
Doesn't.
As a world, not just, not justadulting, decrypted less than we
should.
About an hour
Ashton (05:53):
today.
no, I, I remember hearingsomewhere it was something
ridiculous like on YouTubealone, that there was like a
year's worth of videos every dayor something.
Yeah.
Gideon (06:02):
YouTube.
I've heard the statistics forYouTube too.
It's crazy.
Dad (06:06):
1.5 Quin trillion bytes of data created each.
This was in 2018.
They estimated that 90% of theworld data has been created in
the last two years.
So, well, yeah,
Ashton (06:22):
because it's a lot easier to record something
stupid on your phone than it wasfor the Mays to build their
calendar So 1.5
Dad (06:29):
Quin trillion.
Okay.
So in nine, in, in 20 22, 97.
Zeta.
set Aytes.
Yeah.
Ashton (06:40):
Okay.
In the order of operationsthere's giga,
Dad (06:42):
Tara.
Yeah, I tried that.
I honestly tried.
It's like 0.0079 of a gigabyte.
So,
Ashton (06:54):
a gigabyte would be 0.007 of
Dad (06:56):
that.
Of a, of a, yeah.
Of aaby.
Yeah.
So.
A trillion gigabytes.
Oh, there you go.
A trillion gigabytes is onepetabyte.
There you
Ashton (07:05):
go.
That makes a lot of sense.
I was like, that was smaller.
That was easier way to,
Dad (07:08):
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Easier way to say it.
If you were to store 175zetabytes on DVDs, your stack of
DVDs would be long enough tocircle the Earth 22 times, 222
times.
So CIA CD 222
Gideon (07:26):
times around the Earth.
Dad (07:27):
In CDs.
Ashton (07:28):
In CDs.
Holy crap.
Yeah.
So every I have another stat foryou please, because we're having
fun with these.
Yeah.
let me make sure I have it comcomplete.
Dad (07:38):
while you're looking at that, I just wanted to back up
the listener to help help'emunderstand in, 2000 and.
There was only two Zetabytesproduced for the whole year.
In 2022, there was 97 Zetabytes.
Gideon (07:56):
I, I like how you say, only two zetabytes, but a
zettabyte is still massive.
Dad (08:01):
Massive, massive.
It's humongous.
But just the growth rate in 10in those 12 years to go from two
zetabytes to 97 zetabytes meansthere's a lot of data being
thrown out there.
Go ahead, Ashton, you weresaying.
Ashton (08:13):
Okay, I got it.
Every minute on YouTube, 183hours of video content is
uploaded.
So poor day per 24 hour.
Hour period.
That's 7.5 days worth ofcontent.
No, I lied.
7.5 days worth of content.
Every minute.
Every minute.
Every minute.
(08:33):
Yep.
Dad (08:34):
so there's a lot of data.
Right.
That's what I'm trying to get atis there's a lot of data and the
irony to me is they're saying,well, 90% of all the data's been
created in the last 20 years orless.
Right?
And And you think about all thegenerations before and before
and you're going, how does thateven equate, right?
Not all of it can be factual.
(08:54):
what is knowledge, right?
So that's just data.
So what's knowledge?
how do you gather knowledge?
I think, I
Ashton (09:02):
think maybe, maybe knowledge is like a commonly
accepted, maybe even peerreviewed truth.
I'd agree with that.
Something that like, you know,that is factually been like two
plus two four.
Good.
It's a good, solid example ofknowledge.
Definitely
Dad (09:21):
knowledge.
what about a video that's got678 likes on how to fix a truck?
I would say that's probablyknowledge.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
I mean, people have, especiallyif there's comments that say,
Hey, this worked, you know,there's like three dislikes and
they say, you know, didn't Ihate Fords?
You know, whatever.
I don't know.
Gideon (09:39):
I just, I was trying to figure out what Google might say
and knowledge, the root ofknowledge is.
Correct.
Correct.
So then you're just, knowledge Ithink is just like the product
of knowing something.
So as soon as you knowsomething, I think it's
Dad (09:57):
knowledge.
Right?
I, I think that's fair.
So
Gideon (10:00):
whether it's true or not, if you know it, it's
Dad (10:03):
knowledge.
Agreed.
That's, that's a very goodobservation.
So when I watched these videosabout what all the things that
were wrong with my.
right?
I, I was like, okay, good data,good data, good data.
You know what worked, worked ontheir truck Yeah, I knew.
I know what they did on theirtruck and I know what was wrong
with their truck.
To your point, Gideon.
and then you go, okay, cool.
(10:24):
Now I've got this knowledge andI go out there and I look at the
truck and go, well, I know itcan't be those three things,
because the earlier knowledge Igained helped me solidify that
it wasn't that.
So I think knowledge is, you canread it, you can watch a video,
you can ask a friend, you canhear YouTube, you can, right?
Because to your point, get in,you know, you've learned, you've
(10:45):
vetted it.
Some peers are looked at it,something.
So then you go to the next step,which is experience, knowledge,
versus experience.
Ashton (10:54):
I think, I think one, they're two different like
entities, like knowledge is, is,is, you know, having the
conceptual idea of something.
Experience is, I think justdoing something.
So it's like, you know, you canexperience driving down the
highway.
(11:15):
You know, now you haveexperience, you've done it.
And that will lead to aknowledge of things.
But the experience is just the,the act of it happening.
Dad (11:26):
Okay.
I like that.
Interesting.
Yeah,
Gideon (11:28):
because I like what you said, Ashton, and I think
experience has two differentversions.
Experience as in I haveexperience.
Yep.
And The experience is somethingtry to learn off of, I, I went
through an experience, like Iwent through an experience and I
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have experience cuz I like tothink about it like a video game
experience where it's, you dosomething in the video game, you
gain experience, like experiencepoints or whatever.
but it's just, it's kind of aweird concept
Dad (12:05):
to think about.
Yeah.
And, and, and that's why I, Ikind of grabbed experience
wasn't originally on the list,and I put it in there because I
think as you've studiedsomething, for example, you used
the word driving.
Yeah.
Right.
Your example is you, you hadknowledge of how to drive a car
Yeah.
Before you ever did it, and thenyou actually did it.
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and you can validate with aknowledge with your experience
was true for you.
Did it work for you?
Right.
Does it continually work?
In some situations you don'tknow.
You haven't had the tire falloff.
What do they say to do when youblow a front tire?
Take your foot off the gas.
Yeah.
Chill, chill.
Don't jam the brakes.
Yeah.
Even though it's contrary toI've had it, I've blown out a
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front tire.
take the, take your foot off thegas, let the car slow down.
Even if it's going pretty fast,steer yourself outta trouble.
And it's a scary experience, butthe knowledge helped me from
wrecking.
Yep.
Does that make sense?
Mm-hmm.
Gideon, fun story about you whenyou were little.
I don't know if you rememberthis experience or not.
(13:10):
Okay.
Gideon, the stove's.
Yep.
I know this one.
Gideon (13:16):
It is
Dad (13:16):
hot.
Do you remember this?
Yeah.
So you had, you had theknowledge Cause I told you, but
you didn't have the experiencebecause,
Gideon (13:26):
okay,
Dad (13:26):
ready?
Yeah, because you were like
Gideon (13:28):
three.
I thought that technology wasawesome and as soon as you turn
off the burner, it turns offthe.
Therefore when you turn it off,it is not hot.
Logic makes sense.
Trash.
And so I'm like, I'm a littlescientist.
I'm gonna try and figure thisout.
Okay.
Yep.
So I have my hypothesis.
(13:49):
Yep.
Where it's like, as soon as youturn that burner off, it's, it's
gonna be cold, it's gonna be thesame temperature as the rest of
Ashton (13:55):
the everything else.
Yeah.
Gideon (13:56):
So Dad turns it off.
Turned his back, whoop full palmon the stove and whoop, ah, my
head is pert.
And that was, that was myexperience.
Dad (14:10):
That's right.
So what, what was yourconclusion driven from that
Gideon (14:12):
side?
My conclusion was I was wrong.
And that's not quite how
Dad (14:17):
heat works.
Not quite, no.
So now, almost now, it wouldlead me into the next one.
We're not gonna jump into ityet, but it would be wisdom.
Okay.
So, Let's pause that.
I want to go back to a couplethings that I want to talk about
in spirit experience.
Jimmy Buffett has a line in, inhis song called Min, which is
tomorrow, right in Spanish.
Yep.
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One of the lines says, don't tryto describe the ocean if you've
never seen it, and, and hispoint is saying you might have
knowledge of it, but you haven'texperienced it.
How are you gonna help meunderstand it?
Right.
Don't, don't.
And, and I think the, thecautionary tale is that some
people, when you look for acoach online, they might say,
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oh, I'm, I'm Mr.
Blah, blah, blah.
I'm the best emotionally strongcoach you're ever gonna find.
Come follow me and I'll give youemotional.
And then they start talkingabout all their emotional
problems, not that they fixed,but that they have.
And you're like, wait, should Ireally trust this?
Yeah.
Now that being said, there aresome coaches that can't do, but
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they know how to coach.
Michael Phelps.
Coach never won the Olympics.
Right.
He was not, not a multi goldwinning medalist, but he knew
what it took to help MichaelPhelps get there.
Right.
So, yeah.
So I'd just say caution that asyou're, as you're looking for
people to be influenced by and,and who to choose who you want
to go with.
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The other thing aboutexperiences is the three of us
could be going down the road.
Let's, to make it fun, let's saywe're all three of us are on a
bicycle.
The same bicycle.
No, we're on three differentbikes.
Cause it it just less awkward.
Triple tandem Triple tandem.
As long as as I get to steer,we're good.
There you go.
And as long as I get to sit inthe back so you guys can't see
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if I'm pedaling or not.
It's perfect.
And I'll just yell at you guysto keep pedaling.
We're three bikes.
We're right down the street.
We're having experience, right?
Yes.
We might see something and basedon our knowledge, based on our
observation of other facts, wemight have a different
experience.
Would we agree with that?
(16:24):
Yes.
And the reason why I'm pointingall this out is because it's so
hard to debate sometimes whetheryou have the knowledge, whether
you have the experience, whetheryou've Googled it.
And really I think the, the lastone, which is wisdom.
wisdom is the quality of havingan experienced knowledge and
good judgment.
And that's how you get wisdom,right?
So you have.
the quality of having experienceand knowledge, and then utilize
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the good judgment to make sureyou get the right thing.
And then you can say, that'swisdom.
I have a
Gideon (16:51):
question, please.
cause I was thinking about it.
You said knowledge is knowingabout something, not necessarily
having any experience with it,but just knowing about it and
then after that experience.
Does it turn into wisdom or doesit turn into like trust?
Dad (17:07):
not everybody that has experienced something and has
knowledge, has wisdom, because Idon't think they always have the
judgment, the good judgment onhow to utilize those experiences
or that wisdom.
It's like I'm, I'm sorry.
That knowledge.
Gideon (17:21):
Yeah.
So just cuz driving is a funexample You go through the
testing, the permit test orwhatever, you know the laws of
the road and you know how todrive a car.
You've seen people do it yourwhole.
And when you get that experienceof actually like, oh my gosh, I
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am driving home on Geneva andalmost just turning that car
because I was not payingattention.
It doesn't matter.
Dad (17:48):
So story for another time.
Yeah.
Story
Gideon (17:51):
for another time.
Yeah.
But I have to have thatexperience.
Do you trust the fact that youlook in your mirrors before you
go into a lane and you checkyour blind spot?
And does that turn into wisdomor does it turn into knowledge
because you knew you weresupposed to check your mirrors?
Does it turn into knowledge witha little bit of trust?
Dad (18:12):
you're using the word trust, maybe help me understand
that a little bit more.
Gideon (18:17):
Trust is in like, like judgment, like you said.
Dad (18:20):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So trust is in judgment
Gideon (18:23):
rely you rely on the knowledge.
Dad (18:25):
Yeah.
So, so for me, the, the bigdifference in, in, in that exact
example, I might not always usegood judgment, therefore it
wasn't wise.
I can give an example right now.
The other day I was coming homefrom the gym after, after
working out with mom and, andit's dark right now.
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In the mornings we come aroundthe, the 700 right in front of
the high school.
Some youth was, had walked infront of their parents' car, but
they were right in between theheadlights, so I couldn't see
'em.
Like they weren't in front ofthis headlight, they weren't in
front of the left headlight,they were dead center.
So I didn't know there wasanybody there.
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As I turned the corner, theperson honked their horn.
Now what would wisdom.
Slow down and figure
Ashton (19:12):
out what's really going on
Dad (19:14):
or, and, and proceed with caution.
Yes.
Right.
Because I've already passed it.
I've already already drovearound and the guy honks his
horn or gal, whoever honks herhorn at me, wisdom, if I
would've showed good judgment,would've been like, okay, my
bad.
And drove home.
Instead, the guy honks his horn.
Mm-hmm.
I goro my window to say, I'msorry, you know, my bad.
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You know, cuz it was my bad.
but your mom yells at me.
Rosco, just keep driving.
Well, now I'm pissed.
So I yell at the guy, tell himnot to have somebody cross right
in front of his blind spot wherewe can't see, and I'm going,
wait a second.
He was totally in the right.
Knowledge was not on my side,was it?
Googling that answer over andover.
Still would say that I'm in thewrong.
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My experience would tell me I'min the wrong.
I had zero wisdom in thatmoment.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, so, so, so I think, Ithink wisdom is when you put it
all together.
A good friend of mine, and, andyou guys know him, Lance Line
says about this, that knowledgeand experience allows us to ex
execute wisdom, cuz it helps usstep around the poop, right?
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And he uses that firstconsulting example all the time.
You might get a.
college graduate has an mba,very smart, smarter than me, but
he hasn't had the experiencelaunching his programs in his
trials and his testing of how itwould work in a bigger business.
And because he doesn't have theexperience, he can't have the
wisdom to step around the poop.
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Does that make sense?
But even though we have theknow.
We have the, the experience.
It doesn't mean we always havethe, the, the wisdom.
So my thought on it is that,that we need to realize that
things are changing and we needto contemplate if our knowledge
is still valid because we'vetalked about how much data is
being generated, how much newstudies, how you guys are
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totally.
You were, you both were bornwith a computer in your hand, in
essence, right?
I mean, the internet has alwaysbeen there.
I remember the argument whenAshton was 12 or 13 and he
wanted a cell phone, and we'relike, you're gonna ride your
bike to school if you have acell phone.
He is like, cool, I'm gonna doit.
Yep.
and then it's like, well, whendid you get your first cell
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phone, dad?
Oh, okay.
Let's go there.
I was 25.
Yeah.
You know, and I worked for acell phone company.
Ah, you lose so it, it hastotally changed.
And so now sometimes myknowledge, what I knew in the
past isn't holding true in thefuture.
And I have to be willing tothink of that.
And that's why the, the lastthing I want to cover is
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constant learner.
When I was younger getting, youtalked about Atomic Habits a
couple episodes ago, and, andyou were laying it out when I
was younger, they said, dosomething for 30 days and it
becomes a habit.
Is that still the belief?
Not necessarily.
Explain.
Gideon (22:03):
I don't want to act like I'm an expert because I'm not,
but from what I understand,first off, it depends on what
you're doing.
and it kind of, habits are sucha hard thing, but it's more
about the times that you do itrather than like time period.
So rather than like, oh, in 30days I'll have this as a habit,
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it's, oh, after I do this 90times than it'll be a habit.
And it also depends on sizebecause
Dad (22:33):
how big the lift
Gideon (22:33):
is, right?
Yeah.
If, if you're trying to create ahabit, like.
Oh, I have a habit to eathealthy.
You're going to think about itevery single day, probably
forever.
It's not just gonna be like, ohyeah, I'm gonna go grab this
like salad instead of this coolburger.
it might be easier to grab thesalad, but you're still gonna
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think about it.
You're not just gonna walk overthere.
It's,
Dad (22:57):
it's a, I like that example of, of a diet.
but when I was growing up, I waslike, Hey, do it for 30 days.
And then somebody came out andsaid, oh, it's really 22 days.
And then somebody comes out,says it's 66 days.
And the most recent study andthe data they have on it.
Cause I do believe the humanmind is changing and, and not,
unfortunately, I don't thinkwe're getting wiser.
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I think we scratch the surfacelevel on so many things that
very few people are digging deepenough to really understand and
there's so much misinformation.
You don't know what's right andwrong.
but if you're willing to thinkabout it and, and, and
contemplate it, you can findwhat you need to do and what,
and, and, and what you saidearlier get in is like about
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something else.
You're like, oh, we can go tryit.
We don't have to do it forever.
Let's go try this in thepodcast, but we, it doesn't mean
we're married to it.
Let's, let's try it and see ifit works.
So you're still testing, youknow, to, to see if that
knowledge, then you're trying tograb that experience and then
that will give you some wisdomon how to drive and drag things.
but on a habit.
They also said it's the why isyour why big enough, and and we
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could obviously, we'll, we'vedone maybe one or five episodes
on habits.
One or two.
Yeah, one or two Right.
Because we're all still, it's avery important adulting skill.
But on this one, I really wantedto walk away and the whole
intent of this message wasalways, Be willing to look at
(24:21):
something, realize that youmight not even have a knowledge
of it, cuz you still have to gothrough the experience, but you
might have an un I, I'm sorry,you might not have the wisdom or
the understanding, but you'rescratching the surface on the
knowledge.
Is that fair?
Like if you said, Hey dad, Iwatched five hours of YouTube
videos on how to scuba dive.
I'd be like, cool.
(24:41):
Do you know how to swim?
Well, I watched on the, on theYouTube.
Okay, now let's go out and tryit.
Let's go make sure you reallyknow how to swim before I'm
gonna throw you down there,rapids and all those kind of
things.
Does that make sense?
So the challenge that I have forthe listener, for you guys is to
be constant learners becausethat right now, if you, if in
this room, if Gideon asked youwhat you wanted to be when you
(25:04):
grow up and you said, I want tobe a social media influencer.
There might not be any socialmedia to influence in the
future, but if you're willing tolearn, you can still figure out
what makes you juiced and learnthose skills and traits and
abilities.
1.5 Quin trillion bytes of data created each.
(00:05):
This was in 2018.
They estimated that 90% of theworld data has been created in
the last two years.
So, well, yeah,
Ashton (00:15):
because it's a lot easier to record something
stupid on your phone than it wasfor the Mays to build their
calendar So 1.5
Dad (02:46):
I remember when you guys were little, I'd say something
that I would get myself introuble for often.
I'd say, Hey, being an adultjust means I'm better at
Googling or tubing how to fixsomething.
You guys remember me sayingthat?
I think so.
So what I wanna talk about todayis there's a few different
things.
When we, when we talk about,really the theme I want to get
across is Google has all theanswers, but not all the answers
(03:08):
are always right.
So think about this as we getstarted on this story, when I
was on this trip that with mom,I hurt my arm.
I don't know, did you know aboutthis?
So Gideon knew about this.
I did not.
When I got there, my elbow, my,like, I had a hard time
straightening up my arm.
I couldn't remember when I heardit.
I thought maybe it was when Igrabbed some luggage out of, out
(03:30):
of the overhead.
I wasn't quite sure, but my leftarm just hurt really bad.
Gideon (03:34):
And for an example, it kind of looked like a torn
muscle.
The only problem is it was liketwo inches up from your elbow.
Like the crook in your elbow isabout two inches up when a torn
bicep would be.
Like right in between the middleof that section of your arm, not
right near the bottom.
So it was really
Dad (03:54):
confusing.
Yeah.
And there's really two types oftorn biceps, which is all I
found out from Dr.
Google.
Right.
I don't know how many times I'vespent time on Dr.
Google trying to figure it out.
Did Web indeed tell you you weredying?
Yeah.
Happening.
Yeah.
Something.
Well, nobody could really tellme.
But that's, we, we'll talk moreabout that later.
So it could have been a tornbicep, a broken elbow, arthritis
(04:14):
stretch marks, you know,Google's coming up with every,
sometimes it's the quality ofthe question that's being asked.
Right.
That's it's probably because ofyour pregnancy.
Yeah, probably.
and then today, as mom wasgetting in the truck, or earlier
this week, mom was getting inthe truck and the lights come on
says the charging system's bad.
So of course, I.
Google mechanic.
Mm-hmm.
(04:35):
It could be an alternator, itcould be a wire that's broken.
It could be, you know, you startlooking at everybody else's
symptoms and you start trying todiagnose.
Ashton (04:43):
I need to interject.
I hate Google Mechanic.
It's so challenging.
It's so frustrated.
It's so hard.
It's like the worst game ofmatch, like, you know, you know
the game where you show all thepictures and then you flip it
over and then you have to saythat one and that one match and
Yeah.
Memory.
Yeah.
Google Mechanic is the same.
It's so hard
Gideon (05:01):
because of how many ads and.
Pay to be the top spot.
It's like I am asking for thebest type of Cheeto.
I don't need to see this likewonder drug that's up here.
Dad (05:13):
Like for other problems that you don't have at 15.
Yeah, it's like four 16, so, sonumber one, Google.
Google has all the answers, butnot all the answers are right.
There's knowledge, which we'regonna talk about.
Experience, wisdom, and then I'mgonna leave a c.
(05:34):
That you guys are gonna be superexcited about.
Sure.
So how much data are we creatingevery day?
How much content?
We're obviously creating contentright now.
Yeah.
But have you ever, ha have youguys heard, do you know how much
content we create?
Doesn't.
As a world, not just, not justadulting, decrypted less than we
should.
About an hour
Ashton (05:53):
today.
no, I, I remember hearingsomewhere it was something
ridiculous like on YouTubealone, that there was like a
year's worth of videos every dayor something.
Yeah.
Gideon (06:02):
YouTube.
I've heard the statistics forYouTube too.
It's crazy.
Dad (06:06):
1.5 Quin trillion bytes of data created each.
This was in 2018.
They estimated that 90% of theworld data has been created in
the last two years.
So, well, yeah,
Ashton (06:22):
because it's a lot easier to record something
stupid on your phone than it wasfor the Mays to build their
calendar So 1.5
Dad (06:29):
Quin trillion.
Okay.
So in nine, in, in 20 22, 97.
Zeta.
set Aytes.
Yeah.
Ashton (06:40):
Okay.
In the order of operationsthere's giga,
Dad (06:42):
Tara.
Yeah, I tried that.
I honestly tried.
It's like 0.0079 of a gigabyte.
So,
Ashton (06:54):
a gigabyte would be 0.007 of
Dad (06:56):
that.
Of a, of a, yeah.
Of aaby.
Yeah.
So.
A trillion gigabytes.
Oh, there you go.
A trillion gigabytes is onepetabyte.
There you
Ashton (07:05):
go.
That makes a lot of sense.
I was like, that was smaller.
That was easier way to,
Dad (07:08):
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Easier way to say it.
If you were to store 175zetabytes on DVDs, your stack of
DVDs would be long enough tocircle the Earth 22 times, 222
times.
So CIA CD 222
Gideon (07:26):
times around the Earth.
Dad (07:27):
In CDs.
Ashton (07:28):
In CDs.
Holy crap.
Yeah.
So every I have another stat foryou please, because we're having
fun with these.
Yeah.
let me make sure I have it comcomplete.
Dad (07:38):
while you're looking at that, I just wanted to back up
the listener to help help'emunderstand in, 2000 and.
There was only two Zetabytesproduced for the whole year.
In 2022, there was 97 Zetabytes.
Gideon (07:56):
I, I like how you say, only two zetabytes, but a
zettabyte is still massive.
Dad (08:01):
Massive, massive.
It's humongous.
But just the growth rate in 10in those 12 years to go from two
zetabytes to 97 zetabytes meansthere's a lot of data being
thrown out there.
Go ahead, Ashton, you weresaying.
Ashton (08:13):
Okay, I got it.
Every minute on YouTube, 183hours of video content is
uploaded.
So poor day per 24 hour.
Hour period.
That's 7.5 days worth ofcontent.
No, I lied.
7.5 days worth of content.
Every minute.
Every minute.
Every minute.
(08:33):
Yep.
Dad (08:34):
so there's a lot of data.
Right.
That's what I'm trying to get atis there's a lot of data and the
irony to me is they're saying,well, 90% of all the data's been
created in the last 20 years orless.
Right?
And And you think about all thegenerations before and before
and you're going, how does thateven equate, right?
Not all of it can be factual.
(08:54):
what is knowledge, right?
So that's just data.
So what's knowledge?
how do you gather knowledge?
I think, I
Ashton (09:02):
think maybe, maybe knowledge is like a commonly
accepted, maybe even peerreviewed truth.
I'd agree with that.
Something that like, you know,that is factually been like two
plus two four.
Good.
It's a good, solid example ofknowledge.
Definitely
Dad (09:21):
knowledge.
what about a video that's got678 likes on how to fix a truck?
I would say that's probablyknowledge.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
I mean, people have, especiallyif there's comments that say,
Hey, this worked, you know,there's like three dislikes and
they say, you know, didn't Ihate Fords?
You know, whatever.
I don't know.
Gideon (09:39):
I just, I was trying to figure out what Google might say
and knowledge, the root ofknowledge is.
Correct.
Correct.
So then you're just, knowledge Ithink is just like the product
of knowing something.
So as soon as you knowsomething, I think it's
Dad (09:57):
knowledge.
Right?
I, I think that's fair.
So
Gideon (10:00):
whether it's true or not, if you know it, it's
Dad (10:03):
knowledge.
Agreed.
That's, that's a very goodobservation.
So when I watched these videosabout what all the things that
were wrong with my.
right?
I, I was like, okay, good data,good data, good data.
You know what worked, worked ontheir truck Yeah, I knew.
I know what they did on theirtruck and I know what was wrong
with their truck.
To your point, Gideon.
and then you go, okay, cool.
(10:24):
Now I've got this knowledge andI go out there and I look at the
truck and go, well, I know itcan't be those three things,
because the earlier knowledge Igained helped me solidify that
it wasn't that.
So I think knowledge is, you canread it, you can watch a video,
you can ask a friend, you canhear YouTube, you can, right?
Because to your point, get in,you know, you've learned, you've
(10:45):
vetted it.
Some peers are looked at it,something.
So then you go to the next step,which is experience, knowledge,
versus experience.
Ashton (10:54):
I think, I think one, they're two different like
entities, like knowledge is, is,is, you know, having the
conceptual idea of something.
Experience is, I think justdoing something.
So it's like, you know, you canexperience driving down the
highway.
(11:15):
You know, now you haveexperience, you've done it.
And that will lead to aknowledge of things.
But the experience is just the,the act of it happening.
Dad (11:26):
Okay.
I like that.
Interesting.
Yeah,
Gideon (11:28):
because I like what you said, Ashton, and I think
experience has two differentversions.
Experience as in I haveexperience.
Yep.
And The experience is somethingtry to learn off of, I, I went
through an experience, like Iwent through an experience and I
(11:49):
have experience cuz I like tothink about it like a video game
experience where it's, you dosomething in the video game, you
gain experience, like experiencepoints or whatever.
but it's just, it's kind of aweird concept
Dad (12:05):
to think about.
Yeah.
And, and, and that's why I, Ikind of grabbed experience
wasn't originally on the list,and I put it in there because I
think as you've studiedsomething, for example, you used
the word driving.
Yeah.
Right.
Your example is you, you hadknowledge of how to drive a car
Yeah.
Before you ever did it, and thenyou actually did it.
(12:27):
and you can validate with aknowledge with your experience
was true for you.
Did it work for you?
Right.
Does it continually work?
In some situations you don'tknow.
You haven't had the tire falloff.
What do they say to do when youblow a front tire?
Take your foot off the gas.
Yeah.
Chill, chill.
Don't jam the brakes.
Yeah.
Even though it's contrary toI've had it, I've blown out a
(12:49):
front tire.
take the, take your foot off thegas, let the car slow down.
Even if it's going pretty fast,steer yourself outta trouble.
And it's a scary experience, butthe knowledge helped me from
wrecking.
Yep.
Does that make sense?
Mm-hmm.
Gideon, fun story about you whenyou were little.
I don't know if you rememberthis experience or not.
(13:10):
Okay.
Gideon, the stove's.
Yep.
I know this one.
Gideon (13:16):
It is
Dad (13:16):
hot.
Do you remember this?
Yeah.
So you had, you had theknowledge Cause I told you, but
you didn't have the experiencebecause,
Gideon (13:26):
okay,
Dad (13:26):
ready?
Yeah, because you were like
Gideon (13:28):
three.
I thought that technology wasawesome and as soon as you turn
off the burner, it turns offthe.
Therefore when you turn it off,it is not hot.
Logic makes sense.
Trash.
And so I'm like, I'm a littlescientist.
I'm gonna try and figure thisout.
Okay.
Yep.
So I have my hypothesis.
(13:49):
Yep.
Where it's like, as soon as youturn that burner off, it's, it's
gonna be cold, it's gonna be thesame temperature as the rest of
Ashton (13:55):
the everything else.
Yeah.
Gideon (13:56):
So Dad turns it off.
Turned his back, whoop full palmon the stove and whoop, ah, my
head is pert.
And that was, that was myexperience.
Dad (14:10):
That's right.
So what, what was yourconclusion driven from that
Gideon (14:12):
side?
My conclusion was I was wrong.
And that's not quite how
Dad (14:17):
heat works.
Not quite, no.
So now, almost now, it wouldlead me into the next one.
We're not gonna jump into ityet, but it would be wisdom.
Okay.
So, Let's pause that.
I want to go back to a couplethings that I want to talk about
in spirit experience.
Jimmy Buffett has a line in, inhis song called Min, which is
tomorrow, right in Spanish.
Yep.
(14:37):
One of the lines says, don't tryto describe the ocean if you've
never seen it, and, and hispoint is saying you might have
knowledge of it, but you haven'texperienced it.
How are you gonna help meunderstand it?
Right.
Don't, don't.
And, and I think the, thecautionary tale is that some
people, when you look for acoach online, they might say,
(15:00):
oh, I'm, I'm Mr.
Blah, blah, blah.
I'm the best emotionally strongcoach you're ever gonna find.
Come follow me and I'll give youemotional.
And then they start talkingabout all their emotional
problems, not that they fixed,but that they have.
And you're like, wait, should Ireally trust this?
Yeah.
Now that being said, there aresome coaches that can't do, but
(15:22):
they know how to coach.
Michael Phelps.
Coach never won the Olympics.
Right.
He was not, not a multi goldwinning medalist, but he knew
what it took to help MichaelPhelps get there.
Right.
So, yeah.
So I'd just say caution that asyou're, as you're looking for
people to be influenced by and,and who to choose who you want
to go with.
(15:42):
The other thing aboutexperiences is the three of us
could be going down the road.
Let's, to make it fun, let's saywe're all three of us are on a
bicycle.
The same bicycle.
No, we're on three differentbikes.
Cause it it just less awkward.
Triple tandem Triple tandem.
As long as as I get to steer,we're good.
There you go.
And as long as I get to sit inthe back so you guys can't see
(16:03):
if I'm pedaling or not.
It's perfect.
And I'll just yell at you guysto keep pedaling.
We're three bikes.
We're right down the street.
We're having experience, right?
Yes.
We might see something and basedon our knowledge, based on our
observation of other facts, wemight have a different
experience.
Would we agree with that?
(16:24):
Yes.
And the reason why I'm pointingall this out is because it's so
hard to debate sometimes whetheryou have the knowledge, whether
you have the experience, whetheryou've Googled it.
And really I think the, the lastone, which is wisdom.
wisdom is the quality of havingan experienced knowledge and
good judgment.
And that's how you get wisdom,right?
So you have.
the quality of having experienceand knowledge, and then utilize
(16:47):
the good judgment to make sureyou get the right thing.
And then you can say, that'swisdom.
I have a
Gideon (16:51):
question, please.
cause I was thinking about it.
You said knowledge is knowingabout something, not necessarily
having any experience with it,but just knowing about it and
then after that experience.
Does it turn into wisdom or doesit turn into like trust?
Dad (17:07):
not everybody that has experienced something and has
knowledge, has wisdom, because Idon't think they always have the
judgment, the good judgment onhow to utilize those experiences
or that wisdom.
It's like I'm, I'm sorry.
That knowledge.
Gideon (17:21):
Yeah.
So just cuz driving is a funexample You go through the
testing, the permit test orwhatever, you know the laws of
the road and you know how todrive a car.
You've seen people do it yourwhole.
And when you get that experienceof actually like, oh my gosh, I
(17:41):
am driving home on Geneva andalmost just turning that car
because I was not payingattention.
It doesn't matter.
Dad (17:48):
So story for another time.
Yeah.
Story
Gideon (17:51):
for another time.
Yeah.
But I have to have thatexperience.
Do you trust the fact that youlook in your mirrors before you
go into a lane and you checkyour blind spot?
And does that turn into wisdomor does it turn into knowledge
because you knew you weresupposed to check your mirrors?
Does it turn into knowledge witha little bit of trust?
Dad (18:12):
you're using the word trust, maybe help me understand
that a little bit more.
Gideon (18:17):
Trust is in like, like judgment, like you said.
Dad (18:20):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So trust is in judgment
Gideon (18:23):
rely you rely on the knowledge.
Dad (18:25):
Yeah.
So, so for me, the, the bigdifference in, in, in that exact
example, I might not always usegood judgment, therefore it
wasn't wise.
I can give an example right now.
The other day I was coming homefrom the gym after, after
working out with mom and, andit's dark right now.
(18:45):
In the mornings we come aroundthe, the 700 right in front of
the high school.
Some youth was, had walked infront of their parents' car, but
they were right in between theheadlights, so I couldn't see
'em.
Like they weren't in front ofthis headlight, they weren't in
front of the left headlight,they were dead center.
So I didn't know there wasanybody there.
(19:06):
As I turned the corner, theperson honked their horn.
Now what would wisdom.
Slow down and figure
Ashton (19:12):
out what's really going on
Dad (19:14):
or, and, and proceed with caution.
Yes.
Right.
Because I've already passed it.
I've already already drovearound and the guy honks his
horn or gal, whoever honks herhorn at me, wisdom, if I
would've showed good judgment,would've been like, okay, my
bad.
And drove home.
Instead, the guy honks his horn.
Mm-hmm.
I goro my window to say, I'msorry, you know, my bad.
(19:36):
You know, cuz it was my bad.
but your mom yells at me.
Rosco, just keep driving.
Well, now I'm pissed.
So I yell at the guy, tell himnot to have somebody cross right
in front of his blind spot wherewe can't see, and I'm going,
wait a second.
He was totally in the right.
Knowledge was not on my side,was it?
Googling that answer over andover.
Still would say that I'm in thewrong.
(19:56):
My experience would tell me I'min the wrong.
I had zero wisdom in thatmoment.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, so, so, so I think, Ithink wisdom is when you put it
all together.
A good friend of mine, and, andyou guys know him, Lance Line
says about this, that knowledgeand experience allows us to ex
execute wisdom, cuz it helps usstep around the poop, right?
(20:19):
And he uses that firstconsulting example all the time.
You might get a.
college graduate has an mba,very smart, smarter than me, but
he hasn't had the experiencelaunching his programs in his
trials and his testing of how itwould work in a bigger business.
And because he doesn't have theexperience, he can't have the
wisdom to step around the poop.
(20:41):
Does that make sense?
But even though we have theknow.
We have the, the experience.
It doesn't mean we always havethe, the, the wisdom.
So my thought on it is that,that we need to realize that
things are changing and we needto contemplate if our knowledge
is still valid because we'vetalked about how much data is
being generated, how much newstudies, how you guys are
(21:03):
totally.
You were, you both were bornwith a computer in your hand, in
essence, right?
I mean, the internet has alwaysbeen there.
I remember the argument whenAshton was 12 or 13 and he
wanted a cell phone, and we'relike, you're gonna ride your
bike to school if you have acell phone.
He is like, cool, I'm gonna doit.
Yep.
and then it's like, well, whendid you get your first cell
(21:24):
phone, dad?
Oh, okay.
Let's go there.
I was 25.
Yeah.
You know, and I worked for acell phone company.
Ah, you lose so it, it hastotally changed.
And so now sometimes myknowledge, what I knew in the
past isn't holding true in thefuture.
And I have to be willing tothink of that.
And that's why the, the lastthing I want to cover is
(21:47):
constant learner.
When I was younger getting, youtalked about Atomic Habits a
couple episodes ago, and, andyou were laying it out when I
was younger, they said, dosomething for 30 days and it
becomes a habit.
Is that still the belief?
Not necessarily.
Explain.
Gideon (22:03):
I don't want to act like I'm an expert because I'm not,
but from what I understand,first off, it depends on what
you're doing.
and it kind of, habits are sucha hard thing, but it's more
about the times that you do itrather than like time period.
So rather than like, oh, in 30days I'll have this as a habit,
(22:25):
it's, oh, after I do this 90times than it'll be a habit.
And it also depends on sizebecause
Dad (22:33):
how big the lift
Gideon (22:33):
is, right?
Yeah.
If, if you're trying to create ahabit, like.
Oh, I have a habit to eathealthy.
You're going to think about itevery single day, probably
forever.
It's not just gonna be like, ohyeah, I'm gonna go grab this
like salad instead of this coolburger.
it might be easier to grab thesalad, but you're still gonna
(22:55):
think about it.
You're not just gonna walk overthere.
It's,
Dad (22:57):
it's a, I like that example of, of a diet.
but when I was growing up, I waslike, Hey, do it for 30 days.
And then somebody came out andsaid, oh, it's really 22 days.
And then somebody comes out,says it's 66 days.
And the most recent study andthe data they have on it.
Cause I do believe the humanmind is changing and, and not,
unfortunately, I don't thinkwe're getting wiser.
(23:18):
I think we scratch the surfacelevel on so many things that
very few people are digging deepenough to really understand and
there's so much misinformation.
You don't know what's right andwrong.
but if you're willing to thinkabout it and, and, and
contemplate it, you can findwhat you need to do and what,
and, and, and what you saidearlier get in is like about
(23:39):
something else.
You're like, oh, we can go tryit.
We don't have to do it forever.
Let's go try this in thepodcast, but we, it doesn't mean
we're married to it.
Let's, let's try it and see ifit works.
So you're still testing, youknow, to, to see if that
knowledge, then you're trying tograb that experience and then
that will give you some wisdomon how to drive and drag things.
but on a habit.
They also said it's the why isyour why big enough, and and we
(24:00):
could obviously, we'll, we'vedone maybe one or five episodes
on habits.
One or two.
Yeah, one or two Right.
Because we're all still, it's avery important adulting skill.
But on this one, I really wantedto walk away and the whole
intent of this message wasalways, Be willing to look at
(24:21):
something, realize that youmight not even have a knowledge
of it, cuz you still have to gothrough the experience, but you
might have an un I, I'm sorry,you might not have the wisdom or
the understanding, but you'rescratching the surface on the
knowledge.
Is that fair?
Like if you said, Hey dad, Iwatched five hours of YouTube
videos on how to scuba dive.
I'd be like, cool.
(24:41):
Do you know how to swim?
Well, I watched on the, on theYouTube.
Okay, now let's go out and tryit.
Let's go make sure you reallyknow how to swim before I'm
gonna throw you down there,rapids and all those kind of
things.
Does that make sense?
So the challenge that I have forthe listener, for you guys is to
be constant learners becausethat right now, if you, if in
this room, if Gideon asked youwhat you wanted to be when you
(25:04):
grow up and you said, I want tobe a social media influencer.
There might not be any socialmedia to influence in the
future, but if you're willing tolearn, you can still figure out
what makes you juiced and learnthose skills and traits and
abilities.
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