Comedy, Music, and Skincare Routines: A Fun-Filled Discussion on All About the Joy

Picture this: your favorite comedians from the past and present, music icons, and a hearty chat on skincare routines - all in one episode! Yup, that's right. We at All About the Joy are serving you a smorgasbord of discussions that range from the hilarity of I Love Lucy to the contrasting musical styles of Taylor Swift and Beyoncé. 

Which artist gives you the chills - Tupac or Biggie? Hold that thought as we dissect the magic of their music, delving into the iconic hip-hop scene. Lest we forget, we also share our love for BB and CeCe Winans, DC Talk, and Audio Adrenaline. Fancy a spot of debate? We've got you covered as we put Taylor Swift and Beyoncé under the spotlight, analyze the evolution of Rick's musical tastes and tackle a provocative question - why do individuals lie about their skincare routines?

But, the fun doesn't stop there. We address the elephant in the room - ageism in society, and the role TikTok plays in the success of artists today. We wrap up with a lively discussion about our favorite hip-hop artists, the impact of physical appearances, and the all-important question - Tupac or Biggie. So, buckle up for a ride through a fascinating world of comedy, music, societal norms, and skincare. All this and more in our latest episode of All About the Joy!

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Episode Transcript

Carmen (00:00):
I know.
Hi everyone.
Welcome to all about the joy.
I'm so glad you're here.
Tony D is in the house.
Rick Costa hello.
You know.
One of the things I realize Iforget all the time is I like
this is the second time I forgetto introduce people.
So every time the podcaststarts it's just like people,

(00:22):
because I just assume everybodyknows who we are.

Tony D. (00:24):
So I know they should agree.

Carmen (00:28):
By now.
Yeah, and I'm also working on asecond part of the website
where I'm going to put little itcould.
I don't know if you've seen it,tony, but your pictures up on
the website, so I'm going to putlittle bios for everyone.

Rick (00:40):
Wow.

Carmen (00:43):
You didn't see the website.

Tony D. (00:44):
The website last week.
I'm just messing with you no,right?

Carmen (00:46):
So I'm everybody who's been on the show and, like today
, I changed your picture becauseI had that I know I want.
Everybody has a smiley pictureand your pictures like gangster
or something I don't know, likepretend gangsters.

Tony D. (00:59):
I just think that from a deployment on that picture.
That's why I was.

Carmen (01:02):
No, it's a great picture, but it didn't go with
the flow, so I changed it allout today and fixed it so, and
there's a smiley picture.
It's the one I used on thisposter, or?

Tony D. (01:11):
whatever, it's a little crazy.
That's me acting up.

Carmen (01:13):
Thank you, no no, no, it was okay.
So here's the thing thebackground that you have, which
I appreciate, because, if peopledon't know, you need to be
rested before you go driving,and Tony has a story about that
that he's told multiple timesand he can tell it again on this
show.
So I appreciate it.
But what happens is I can't geta clear picture of you because

(01:33):
it it like like it phases outthe back of your head.

Tony D. (01:37):
Rick, I want you to remember one minute 45 seconds.
She got a clear shot right now.

Carmen (01:43):
Okay, but right now.

Rick (01:44):
Okay, and then the fuzziness keeps coming in.

Carmen (01:46):
And then your hand and like.
So I was looking at a wholebunch of them and no, we don't
want a saccata.
That face, no, okay, wait,smile, dude, we want smiley face
.
Okay, so you're going to makeme redo the whole thing, but
still it's flashing in and out.
Dude, it's okay, though I likethe background, it's not a big

(02:07):
deal.
So, yeah, so we put you upthere with a smiley face.
Okay, you know what I'm done,rick, how you doing?
Let's just avoid Tony right now.

Rick (02:18):
How was your day?

Carmen (02:20):
Doing good.

Rick (02:20):
Doing good.
It's not too bad, it's prettygood so you had a good day.

Carmen (02:24):
I was worried about you because usually when I send you
a DM I get a message likewithin an hour like haha or
something.
So I got worried about you andI had to go on your show to see
if you were okay.
You didn't respond for like sixhours.

Rick (02:39):
I emailed you after you said that and then I was like
I'm getting old because I couldhave sworn.
I wrote you back.

Carmen (02:47):
That you emailed me back.

Rick (02:49):
Yeah, I really thought again.

Carmen (02:51):
It's okay.
I was just having issues that Iwas like all feeling panicked,
so okay, the other thing I wantto do is update you on a couple
of things I watched.
I love Lucy.
I watched like three episodes.
I know the first three.

Rick (03:07):
Honey meds.

Carmen (03:10):
Well, unlike Andrea, I did you know.
I'm willing to be open andthink about it.
I was cracking up because Ididn't know that Ricky Ricardo I
mean I knew he was Latino, Ididn't know he played a Latino
on the show.
You know what I mean.
Like I thought you know, likeMartin Sheehan, or as you say,
martin Sheen thought he was kindof pretending he was, you know,

(03:31):
not Latino because he's Cuban,but yeah, I thought it was.
You know, I can see why itworks, I can see why it's funny
and I understand it's a littlebit dated but it still holds up.
It's not my thing.
Like I'm not going to watch it.

Tony D. (03:46):
The reason why you don't enjoy it now is because
it's dated.

Carmen (03:48):
It actually held up pretty well, especially the
first episode, which is thepilot, where they're pretending
to be the dates.
I don't know if you guysremember what the first episode
is, but season one, episode oneI forget what the name of it is,
but they were celebrating theneighbors I don't forget the
neighbors names anniversary orsomething.
Ethel and the husband seemsvery cranky and they want to go

(04:12):
to the Copacabana, but the guyswant to go to the fight or
something, and then so theypretend to be these awkward ugly
girls.
You know, I mean I get why it'sfunny and the comedic timing
which I know you all know is offthe hook.
I mean it's pretty amazing, butit's just not my thing and it
wouldn't have been back theneither.

Rick (04:32):
It's just, you know, when he goes off on her in Spanish,
though it's hilarious, but hestarts singing in Spanish.

Carmen (04:40):
I was shocked by that that he was singing in.

Tony D. (04:42):
Spanish oh yeah, Back then that was the main comedy,
that kind of comedy,honeymooners, everybody.
I enjoyed the reruns as a kid.

Carmen (04:51):
I don't remember seeing the reruns as a kid.
Cool, I'm very happy that I satthrough that, but I won't be
watching anymore.
But it was good.
It was good.
It was.
It's a little too cheeky.

Tony D. (05:01):
They'll get redundant.
After a few episodes, thecomedy remained the same the
honeymooners did the same thing.

Carmen (05:06):
Yeah, it's kind of like when when I was thinking about
like comedians of today thatkind of give me that same vibe.
I really was thinking aboutkind of like Jim Carrey.
I mean he's funny, it's just alittle too cheeky for me, yeah,
so anyways, I just wanted to sayand Andrea, I hope, is
listening in because she needsto watch ET and a field of

(05:29):
dreams because I went out therethe other update I want to give
really quickly, I think everyoneknows, is that Drew Barrymore
did decide to stop airing hershow, so all of the protesting
and all of the ganging up on herfor doing the wrong thing
worked.
Well, we are going to talkabout music today.
Well, not all day, but I justhad a couple of questions.
But do you guys anything to addabout?

(05:50):
I don't think you guys careabout Drew Barrymore at all, but
like I think did somebody elsealso.
They were going to start upagain and they decided Jennifer
Hudson did not do her show, andthen Sherry got COVID, so she's
not doing her show but, I, don'tknow, what that's about.
So, but yeah, okay, cool, Okay.
So I've introduced you guys,I've done the update on Drew.

(06:12):
Let's talk about music.
Here's why I want to bring thisup.
I don't want to talk aboutBeyonce and Taylor Swift so much
, but have you especially Tony,because I know your way into
music right, you love DJing.
Is it okay to say DJ?

Tony D. (06:26):
Video diss Jackie and I like video music.

Carmen (06:29):
Video diss Jackie.
Video diss Jackie.
Okay, so Taylor Swift andBeyonce this weird.
I think it's the media tryingto compare them and pick them up
against each other, because Iwould have never in all my life
compared these two people, everat all.
And the weird thing is, is GenZ ain't having it?

Tony D. (06:50):
They're not even jumping in the game, you know
they're two different genres butthey're two of the biggest
female musical artists out there, so I give them that, but I
doubt if they even got to issuewith each other that we know of.

Carmen (07:02):
I don't think they don't even compete.
As far as concerns Rick, whatdo you think?

Rick (07:08):
I mean as little as I know about them, because you know
I'm a whole different type ofthing, but it's like apples and
oranges.

Carmen (07:16):
It's just a whole different type of thing.
That's what you said.

Rick (07:19):
That's what you said, because I'm in the Christian
realm.

Carmen (07:22):
You are Okay, you know what you have got to.
Stop that you listen to all thesame music.
You sent me a list of 80s and90s music that was back then to
improve and grow upon himself.

Tony D. (07:36):
That was the past.

Carmen (07:37):
Okay, okay.

Tony D. (07:38):
Okay.

Rick (07:38):
And then I'm a real Rick.
Back then it was different.

Carmen (07:43):
Are you spirits?
You don't listen to any musicfrom today.

Rick (07:48):
I don't listen to barely music of anybody.
I'm asleep right now.

Carmen (07:52):
Okay, really.

Rick (07:54):
Very different than I used to be.

Carmen (07:55):
Yeah, All right, well, we'll just take you off the show
, because this is going to be awhole thing about music today,
so I don't have enough visionthough.
Do you know who?

Rick (08:04):
Beyonce, but I mean the little I know about them is
they're two completely differentgenres, two different ways of
performing.
They're just totally different.
So I don't even know whyanybody's comparing them in the
first place.

Carmen (08:17):
Yeah.
I think it's a weird thing.
Okay, anthony said the onlyreason they are being compared
is because at one time, taylorSwift started out as a country
artist.
Yeah, that I remember.
I like them both.
I just think it's like.
It's like trying to compare, Idon't know.
Like Aretha Franklin and DollyParton, why would you bother?
There's no like.

(08:38):
People can be great in theirown thing of Majiggy.
Like there's, there's no needto put them together.

Tony D. (08:43):
What Thing of Majiggy.

Carmen (08:46):
Thing of Majiggy You've never, heard of that, of course
.

Tony D. (08:49):
I have Thing of Majiggy is what you're gonna call us.
All of that, yes.

Carmen (08:51):
What you're gonna call me, and I'm peachy.
What's just in a mood todaybecause I just finished watching
.
I love Lucy, so I'm thinkingold school language.
Yeah, that's show.
I don't know I get why it waspopular, but it's still in my
head Like I was kind of annoyedwatching it.

Rick (09:07):
Should have.
Let us tell you which ones towatch.

Carmen (09:10):
No, I'm not going to watch anymore.
I've seen all the clips of likesomebody sent me the chocolate,
when they're working in thefactory and oh, this is a
hilarious clip.
Here's the thing.
It's one of those things that Ithink you had to see before.
Everybody saw it and talkedabout it, because I think that
is a stupid scene and it don'tmake me laugh at all, and you
already know what's going tohappen and you know what I mean.

(09:31):
So I bring too much to thetable.

Tony D. (09:33):
You are and you're bringing a lot of.
Take that as stress reliefcomedy.
Take a bad day and just wannasee somebody be crazy.
That's how you enjoy it.

Carmen (09:42):
Okay.
So here's what I'm gonna.
Okay, we gonna.
For Rick's sake, we're gonnamove off of the music.
Here's the thing Slapstickcomedy like that stresses me out
.
It doesn't bring me happinessand joy.

Tony D. (09:56):
That does not make me happy.
I'm curious about that.
That's an interesting topic.
Why does that stress you out?

Carmen (10:00):
Because it's not what I like.
Do you like every genre oftelevision?
Or like do you love horror?
Do you love okay, so?
If somebody says to you youhave to watch it or you must
watch it.
It'll help you feel better orit'll make you laugh or it'll
make you cry.
What happens you going in yourleg doesn't gonna make me cry.

Tony D. (10:18):
I want you to remember something, okay.
Oh okay, and I'm gonna tell youthis, this is one topic I
wanted to bring up.
I actually had a bad day theother day because, look at,
Anthony, what's wrong with you,carmen?
Because I'm at work and thissong was in my head and I
actually got very mad at Rick.
How, oh, okay.

Carmen (10:34):
I got very mad at Rick.
Give us the T, go ahead.

Tony D. (10:37):
Because I'm at work and for some reason I'm just
sitting here.
Boop ah, boop ah.

Carmen (10:43):
Oh Lord no.

Rick (10:43):
I really can't probably just dead it's ah, ah ah, ah,
yep.

Carmen (10:49):
No, this is not gonna be a clip this time.

Tony D. (10:51):
And then the clip came up and I'm sitting here laughing
and you were like, no, we don'tseem to clip.

Carmen (10:55):
Right, I mean, that was .
The funny part was that he wasa dork and we both were like no,
no, no.

Tony D. (11:03):
No, oh gosh, that was funny.
Okay, yeah, but the comedy backthen everything was about
having fun, acting up andmishaps.
Right now, a lot of comedytoday is low down, dirty and
embarrassing.

Carmen (11:14):
I don't know, it's okay , I disagree with you because no
problem, look it back in theday like and it's not the I love
Lucy back in the day likethat's the other thing too.
It's hard for me to associatethings that I didn't deal with
growing up.
Anthony just said I hate horror, but I do appreciate it because
it's a form of storytelling, soI can appreciate it.
For that I can appreciate it,but I don't wanna watch horror

(11:36):
Like I've never watched horror.

Tony D. (11:38):
Well, I'll deal with you later.

Carmen (11:39):
Not weird.
Yeah, I'm pulling, but here'smy thing.
I think I love Lucy is aclassic and I can respect it or
whatever, but I rememberwatching things like what was it
dynamite?
What was that show with JJ?

Tony D. (11:55):
Good times, good times.

Carmen (11:58):
Or the Jepperson's.
I loved the Jepperson's and youcould kind of say there was
something kind of slap stickyabout George Jefferson, and you
know what I mean.
That kind of got you a funnylaugh track, comedic thing.

Tony D. (12:12):
Those were very heartbreaking comedies because
they pushed the envelope, if youwill.

Carmen (12:16):
Right, but I can watch those because I remember them
and I can relate to them, Ithink so.
I was watching these,especially when I watched the
third one.
I was trying to figure out.
Okay, seriously, I can see whyit's funny.
I understand why it works.
Why doesn't it work for me?
Besides that, it's not my thing.

Tony D. (12:33):
Yes, I'm doing, anthony , oh my.

Carmen (12:37):
Wait, did Anthony just say what I think he's saying?

Rick (12:40):
Yes, he did.

Carmen (12:41):
Now.

Rick (12:41):
I know if.

Carmen (12:42):
I ever meet Carmen in person, I'll throw a pie in her
face, is that?

Tony D. (12:45):
a.

Carmen (12:46):
Lucy.
Thing.

Tony D. (12:47):
Yes, it is.

Carmen (12:48):
Yeah right.

Tony D. (12:51):
I was close.
Okay, go ahead.
I love that Anthony's drinking.
You won't be doing that.

Carmen (12:56):
Anthony, because you know you are allowed to dream on
my show.
You know, to dream that youwould meet me and be able to
throw anything in my face.
Wow, it wouldn't be the firsttime, by the way, that somebody
wants to throw something in myface.
Yeah.

Tony D. (13:13):
I mean you do.

Carmen (13:15):
You know I can't help it, but I assume it's because
it's a comedic thing.
But yeah, it's just not mygenre.
I think that's okay, you know.
Yeah, there's nothing wrongwith the show.
There's a lot of other shows onTV now that I don't watch
either, because I just don'tthink they're funny.

Tony D. (13:32):
We were all limited to what we had back then.
That's why everybody knows us.
That's very limited televisionback then, very limited.
It was before you were born.

Carmen (13:40):
Why do you guys keep talking like?

Tony D. (13:41):
you were there Because I remember a really good story
very much 40 years ago.

Carmen (13:46):
No, no, wait, wait.
I'm talking about when you saidI love Lucy.
I love Lucy.
Wasn't that in the 50s?
Okay, you guys are not old.

Tony D. (13:51):
It was in the 50s and 60s but, mind you, before cable,
a lot of us who didn't havecable, we had a three major
networks.
Pbs did another independentstation, so you only have five
channels.
Now, if you didn't watch thoseon the other channels, you did
watch what was gonna be the mostentertaining, on the funniest,
and back then it was I love Lucy, it was all in the family, it
was.

Carmen (14:08):
I watched all in the family.
I know that I loved.

Tony D. (14:11):
The honeymoon is all there.
Yeah, we had.
Take yourself to the mentalityof television without cable and
the only options you had.

Carmen (14:18):
How old do you think I am?
I was born.
I didn't have cable.
Growing up we had threechannels.
You're like take the mentalityout.
That's like well, let me see, Idon't even remember when we had
pagers.
You had pagers like I'm notthat young, you had pagers in
the 90s.
I think I am older than both ofyou.
By the way, I'm cuter than bothof you, but I think I'm older

(14:40):
than both of you.
I just wanna be LinkedIn user.
I think it's still Robert saidback then the remote control was
your strength.

Tony D. (14:49):
You had the antennas with the aluminum foil like this
.
You had the remote to watch theshow.
Make sure you had a good day.
I did all of that.
Yes, you leave it too much.

Carmen (14:57):
I do remember having to get up and change the channel
and we used to watch you.
What was it?
The UH?

Rick (15:06):
UHF channels.

Carmen (15:07):
UHF channels, because that's where all the cartoons
were.
Yes, Tony.
So are you feeling a little bitbetter than from earlier, from
20 minutes ago?
A little bit.

Tony D. (15:16):
I'm here.
I'm here, I'm trying to behave.

Carmen (15:23):
You don't have to behave.
Go ahead, let loose Do yourthing.
Go ahead, let loose Screamingyeah To the gender.

Tony D. (15:28):
next question number two.

Carmen (15:29):
Let it out.
Let it out.
Okay, well, I'm gonna get awayfrom the.
I was gonna talk about music,but you know Rick is all in his
Christian stuff.

Tony D. (15:37):
Rick knows music, Don't Rick?

Carmen (15:39):
is my watcher?
He's my question.

Tony D. (15:41):
I've been on music broadcasts for the past two
years.
He knows his music.
Let's go.

Carmen (15:45):
Okay.
So here's my question If I sayboy band, you say man.
Thank you, Rick, for that veryconclusive and in-depth analysis
of boy bands.

Tony D. (16:01):
Gonna be new kids on the block.

Carmen (16:04):
Now see, I thought boys to men.
Why would you think new kids?

Tony D. (16:08):
on the block.
They weren't it started.

Carmen (16:12):
How about new addition?
How?

Tony D. (16:14):
about.
New addition was a boy band.
I sold them as a group and nowa band.
You said band.
I'm like okay, instruments andall that, like everybody, but
New kids on the block and heyKevin.

Carmen (16:24):
New addition were at the same exact time, hey, kevin.

Tony D. (16:30):
They were.

Carmen (16:31):
I'm bringing it up because everyone's making a big
deal about NSYNC and they'rereunion tour.

Tony D. (16:36):
Yes, they're reunion tour, but they came out way
before new kids on the block.
They really did come out beforenew kids on the block and they
came after the Jackson 5.

Rick (16:44):
And all that To me, boy bands Boy bands is not just the
singing, but they're performingand they're dancing and they got
choreography where boys to menwasn't so much on that, it was
more singing.

Carmen (16:57):
Look at you guys defining what a boy band is yeah
.
Like okay, the officialknowledge that you can't say new
kids on the block, On the block.
New kids on the block and thensay that they're a boy band.
But new addition, wasn't?
They were exactly the same atthe same time.
Here's why I know they're bothfrom Boston and they came out at

(17:19):
the same time.

Tony D. (17:20):
New addition came out way before them.
New addition came out waybefore them.

Carmen (17:23):
They were competing with each other at the same time
.
It doesn't matter who came outfirst.
They were at one point neck andneck because they were in.
Boston and there was like afeud, who liked who more or
whatever.
You know what I mean.

Tony D. (17:37):
They knew this one about five years ago.

Carmen (17:40):
Look at you.

Rick (17:41):
I know I brought them up last time.

Carmen (17:44):
I've been there with all.

Rick (17:45):
That's so crazy, ricky Martin.

Tony D. (17:48):
Now, Ted, that's a good one.
I forgot about my noodle.
I'm going to give you that.
I'm going to give you that yeah, no.

Carmen (17:54):
So I look at I, none of these matter to me actually at
all.
I'm just curious becauseeveryone is making a big deal
about in sync and I was like onTikTok, it's all over the place
because I guess they're gettingtogether and they're going to
have a reunion tour.
Yes, yeah, I don't know how Ifeel about all those, but you
know I appreciate everyone'sgoing to go and buy their
tickets.

Tony D. (18:14):
They have a very huge fan base.
They'll make money.

Carmen (18:17):
The Jackson five, I think, is the deal that that
would be.
That would have been incredible.
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, ok, more questions.
Let's see you guys really arenot fun at all, you're we are
too.
Your level is way too down forme.
Yeah, I need more energy people.

(18:39):
Let's start over.
Let's start over.
Ok, what is your favorite genreof music and why?
Good Amric, do not just talkabout Christian music.
You can say it.

Rick (18:53):
It says genre, there's genre covers everything.

Carmen (18:57):
Wait, linkedin user is asking me Carmen Dang, how old
are you?
You remember a lot.
Look like 30.
Thank you.

Rick (19:04):
Oh, at first I was like offended, but then he said 30s,
I was like, oh, you made a point, thank you.

Carmen (19:08):
Thank you.
Let me give a shout out toBotox.
Thank you.
Wow, Good skincare and workingout which.

Tony D. (19:20):
I'm not really doing that much.
Exercise definitely, exerciseand rest definitely.

Carmen (19:23):
Exercise, definitely, but exercising your inner spirit
.
I don't know about 30s, but Iappreciate you for saying but,
thank you.
But 30s is pushing a little bit.
But yeah, I'm in my 50s, I'm inmy 50s, I'm embracing the 50s,
so but yeah, people get alloffended now, like someone
called me the other day and theywere like, do you always have

(19:44):
to talk about Botox?
And I'm like you know why?
Cause I'm sick and tired ofpeople lying about what they do
to look good and I bad.
Botox is what you all tend tosee and think and hate and I
totally get it.
But when Botox has done well,you don't notice it.

(20:04):
And I give you the examples ofyou know well, me for one, and I
don't do a lot of it, but I doit.
But there are plenty of stars,you know.
But let me give you this littlenugget how come nobody gets
upset or thinks anything badlyabout people like Dolly Parton
and Cher, who have clearly doneand embrace everything about

(20:28):
what they've done to themselves?
Why?
It's because you respect themand their spirit is on point.
You know what I mean.
So I don't lie about usingBotox because I want men and
women to stop feeling bad aboutnot.
I'm not telling anyone to do it, but people should stop feeling

(20:48):
bad about wanting to look great.
You know and and feel good.
Anthony Davis said old timecountry and bluegrass music, all
of it made music and theentertainment industry what it
is today, and it's about goodold fashioned values,
interesting.
I'm not a fan of bluegrass orcountry.
Baby Ooh, I'm gonna throw a pieat you when I meet you.

(21:09):
I am I.
I love my brother Alden withall my heart.
He lives in Vermont and we'reclearly not DNA related, but he
grew up in Vermont and sobluegrass.
I just want to shoot myself,but I agree with you that it is
the background of a lot of music.

(21:30):
Kevin Baskin, I use Botox formy grades.

Rick (21:35):
Yeah, that's really good.
That's the thing, isn't it,though Don't they do really good
?
No, no you can.

Carmen (21:38):
I mean, it is for that, but people like to say that
instead of you know whatever.
I don't mean to make this ashow about Botox, unless you
guys want to talk about what youcould do to enhance your beauty
regiment.

Rick (21:49):
No, I ain't gonna mess with what God made right here.

Carmen (21:52):
Oh, really, so you don't cut your hair, brush your
teeth, why are you wearing themglasses?
If the Lord made you half blind, why are you?

Rick (21:58):
modeling I'm talking about artificial changing of
physicality.

Carmen (22:02):
Oh, really, one one one .
Do you shave?
Is that artificial?
You're not gonna win thisargument with me, go ahead.

Rick (22:07):
Rick though.
You don't wanna mess with me?
Do you think I would look goodwith a big old beard?
I've tried it.
It don't look good.

Carmen (22:13):
Okay, I'm just.
This is what I'm trying to do.
This is what I'm trying to say.
This is my point.
Look at Tony's like.
I ain't even gonna go here withher.

Tony D. (22:20):
I ain't even gonna.
I'm going to sleep, I'mexercising and I'm gonna wash my
face.

Carmen (22:24):
I'm not telling anyone to get Botox, but what you just
did right there, Rick, is thepoint.
It makes people feel bad fordoing whatever they need to do
to feel good about themselves.
And the thing is, we all get upevery day.
We brush our teeth, we fix ourhair, we do what we gotta do.

Rick (22:41):
You know what it's saying right, I'm being serious guys.

Carmen (22:44):
You know, Women, men dye their hair, people wear
makeup, people get theirmanicures, pedicures, all of
this stuff.

Tony D. (22:53):
Cosmetic.

Carmen (22:54):
When you do it for yourself.
And we're humans, we'resocialized beings.
We want to attract other people.
It's what we do.
Ted Hicks said, rick, why youwear those glasses.
You should reply so I can see.

Rick (23:04):
So I can see, and you over here and you over there, I can
see, wow.

Carmen (23:08):
But I would still respond Ted that he said why am
I gonna mess with the way theLord made me?
We're all messing with the waythe Lord made us.

Rick (23:17):
That's not saying that if you want to do something, I'm
pro, do whatever makes you feelgood.
Okay, there you go, thank youvery much Okay.

Tony D. (23:25):
Rick, this is over.
Rick, what's?

Rick (23:26):
your job.
I actually really go for R&B alot, to be honest with you, and
what was funny was so when I didbecome like super uber
Christian and I was listening toTV the Christian TV networks
everything was country andbluegrass and I'm like I do not

(23:48):
like this, but that was allthere was, so I got used to it.
And then Tony could relate tothis One day Beebe and CeCe Wine
and showed up.

Carmen (23:57):
I was like thank you.

Rick (23:59):
God, thank you God.

Carmen (24:00):
Yeah, they're amazing, okay, so yeah.

Rick (24:03):
I really I have a big lean towards Rhythm and Blues, r&b,
but also anything that's kind ofdancey, even though I'm not a
dancer.
But if it's dancey it kind ofmakes me happy, it makes me in a
good mood.

Carmen (24:15):
I love gospel music too , like I do love gospel, like
you said, you know.

Rick (24:20):
Audio adrenaline Anthony wasn't really into them too much
.
Dc Talk I was.
I did like DC Talk.
Wait, wait, wait wait wait,these are Christian bands.

Carmen (24:28):
But who are you reading ?

Rick (24:30):
Anthony, Mr Me.

Carmen (24:32):
Oh my God, okay, yeah, okay.
I bet Rick loves Audio A and DCTalk.
So those are Christian.
Rick likes salsa.
I love salsa.
Why is Kevin saying Rick likesalsa?

Rick (24:46):
I said anything.
That's dancey, I guess, ohdancey Audio adrenaline.
Yeah, adrenaline.

Carmen (24:53):
Adrenaline?
Yeah, I don't know any of thesethings.

Tony D. (24:56):
I think I've heard of the genre.

Carmen (24:59):
It's Christian Audio adrenaline.

Rick (25:02):
But these two, they made me happy, BB and CeCe, where we
are.

Carmen (25:05):
Yeah, well, we OK, but we all love them because they
crossed over into.
Well, first of all, it's them,and the first time I knew who
CeCe Wynons was was because ofWhitney Houston.
You know what I mean Like.

Rick (25:17):
So there, was no getting around it.
Yeah, they were close.

Carmen (25:20):
So, and then, and then, cece Wynons and BB Wynons, they
crossed over.
What was the song?

Rick (25:27):
contemporary gospel how many songs.

Carmen (25:29):
No, there was a.
There was one song that I can'tremember it, but it crossed,
and if I sang, even hummed it,you'd all know it, but I just
don't remember.
Up top my head I bet Rick likesjars of clay too.

Rick (25:40):
I don't know what that is it's another Christian one, oh.

Carmen (25:42):
OK, and clearly I don't know any of the Christian songs
.
Ted's like Neo Soul.
What does that mean, Neo Soul?
So Ted Hicks and his group isgoing to have we're going to
have a crossover show is stilltrying to figure out the dates
but we're going to have latenight parents and our show
together.
I can't wait, That'll be fun.
I love gospel reggae andreggaeton and cocomelon.

Rick (26:09):
I never heard of cocomelon .

Carmen (26:11):
What's cocomelon?

Rick (26:12):
I have no idea.
I know reggaeton.

Carmen (26:15):
Reggaeton LaToria, latoria.
Yeah, tony, is that how you sayit.

Tony D. (26:22):
The way I see it I see the story.
But if it's a story, that'swhat Rick said, that's how you
say it.

Rick (26:26):
Yeah, people on Periscope used to say Lataria.
I'm like no, not Lataria.

Carmen (26:31):
Where do you see Lataria?

Tony D. (26:33):
How did you know?
Almost I was filled.
Y'all already know my genre waship hop, plain and simple.
I grew up watched it from itsinception.
I love R&B.
I had to grow to like jazz.
Gospel has its moments to me.
I'm not the biggest gospel fan,but I'm definitely definitely a
hip hop fan Off the road.

Carmen (26:50):
What was your favorite hip hop?

Tony D. (26:52):
Rapper period.

Carmen (26:54):
Hip hop yeah.

Tony D. (26:55):
Carousel.

Carmen (26:57):
OK, what song can you listen to on loop and not get
sick of it?

Tony D. (27:05):
I would start and I've done this with a lot of songs on
road trips.
My first choice as of right nowis going to be whatever happens
about Michael Jackson.

Carmen (27:14):
Really?
Oh, I would never have guessedthat.

Tony D. (27:18):
Well, that is a great I actually did on one of my
broadcasts that was emphasizing.
I said had this song beenreleased on the radio because I
never heard it on the radiowhile he was alive that album
would have went down enough forthat song alone.
That's one of the best songsI've ever heard about him.

Carmen (27:30):
I agree with you.
With Michael Jackson it'spretty cool, but I would have
never guessed that for you.
Rick, what song can you listento on loop?
Even if it's a gospel one, it'sall good.

Rick (27:42):
Trying to think what's not a gospel one?

Carmen (27:45):
No, tell us a gospel one, because we have a lot of
people who know gospel.

Rick (27:48):
It's going to be corny, but if I, is it about?

Carmen (27:54):
Whitney Houston.

Rick (27:56):
I love me some Whitney.

Tony D. (27:56):
Houston, I'm sorry.
I played it one time.
He enjoyed it.
Yes.

Carmen (28:02):
I would have never.
Well, you guys are surprisingme so much.

Rick (28:05):
All time.
All time, not new stuff.
The old time, mariah Carey,what do you mean?

Carmen (28:09):
new stuff, oh, mariah.

Rick (28:10):
Carey, old Mariah Carey.
Not the new Mariah Carey, butthe new stuff, but the old stuff
I like to verse.

Carmen (28:16):
If you want to hear a really cool Jamaican reggae band
, you should check out theSwanky Kitchen Band.
They are very cool.
I will totally check it out.
I was just listening to.
I'm having the worst memoryissues today.
I don't know why.
I think it's because I'm reallyreally tired and I can't see
that.
Well, you know what I shouldput on my glasses?

Tony D. (28:34):
How about you do that?

Carmen (28:37):
Because I only need them to read, and then they
bother me.
If I'm looking at you guys, youknow what I mean.
Oh, you see now.

Tony D. (28:47):
We're going to go all glasses broadcast Just to help
all glasses broadcast.
Yeah, because I can't believesee Jesus just left Chicago's
easy top.

Carmen (28:57):
I don't even know what that means.
I don't either.
What do you mean?
Jesus just left Chicago's easytop.

Tony D. (29:05):
The longer my list is growing.
I got another song that I canlisten to.

Carmen (29:08):
Go ahead and tell me, tell me.

Tony D. (29:09):
Jesus Heaven by Bb and Cc Winers.
I love that.

Carmen (29:13):
Oh yes, that's really good.
I think that's on the CD, yes.

Tony D. (29:16):
Heaven.

Rick (29:17):
That's the first song.

Tony D. (29:18):
Yeah, that's the first one.
I remember that video, man,please.

Carmen (29:22):
Okay, I'll tell you one of the songs that I've been
listening to every time I go fora workout.
It's the first song I listenedto, and even today I was so
stressed out I didn't want to gofor my walk.
I worked all morning and then Ihad a little break and I went
for a walk.
It's smile.

Rick (29:37):
Oh yeah, my curtain's right.

Carmen (29:38):
It's been my thing.
It's been my thing for a fewweeks now, Like I.
Just it gets me in such ajoyful place.

Tony D. (29:48):
The more positive, more optimistic and more energetic
at the same time.
Optimistic by sounds ofblackness.

Carmen (29:56):
Yes, I know that yes.

Tony D. (29:57):
That whole first CD and before whatever, I have played
that on rotation so many times.

Carmen (30:04):
Yes.

Tony D. (30:05):
That whole CD has uplifted me on the whole thing.
It's amazing.

Carmen (30:08):
Anthony, I hear you and we all know we all love Dolly
Parton.
But she wrote and produced thesong I Will Always Love you as a
country song and WhitneyHouston is the one that made it
famous as a pop song.
But let's not forget the restof that story.
Whitney Houston, even thoughshe made it very famous, she did
not own the rights to it.
So, as a producer, dolly Partonstill got all of this money.

(30:30):
And then Dolly Parton took allof that money and put it back
into black neighborhoods.
I think it was like reading orwhatever for kids.
I forget what the charity was,but she put that money back into
the community.
For people of color Like DollyParton is queen, there is no
question.

(30:51):
I've never heard anythingnegative about her and I will
listen to nine to five andwhatever the song she sings, and
I have it on my playlist likeevery once in a while, just to
do honor to her.
You know, because I rememberthe movie, remember the 95, the
way to make a living.
Like you know, I don't knowmuch about Dolly Parton music
wise, but I got mad respect forher.

(31:13):
Ted Hicks said Cheryl Lynn,encore dropped in 1983.
I don't know who that is.
Is that a Tony D?
Can you tell us?

Tony D. (31:22):
Yes, your love, you're so good.
Goods Erzene Encore, Deezers EnEncore.

Rick (31:30):
Everybody know that song.

Tony D. (31:31):
Pull that song up.
You know that song?
Pull up that song.

Carmen (31:34):
Pull up that song.
Everybody know that song.
I'm like I'm singing it for aminute 1993.
I was kind of young.

Tony D. (31:41):
They still play that on a lot of the R&B stations.

Carmen (31:44):
Okay, rick, did you pick a song?
Did you pick a song on loop oran album?

Rick (31:49):
I said I could do a Christian one.
There's one called Lifter of myHead.
I don't care how bad a mood I'min If I listen to that song,
it's going to shift my mood togood mood.

Carmen (31:57):
Sing me a chorus, sing me a song.

Rick (32:00):
It's just kind of repetitive.
It's like you are the lifter.
You are the lifter of my, of myhead, of my head.
It's kind of fucking nice.

Tony D. (32:11):
Always a redhead shake when you sing this Go ahead Woo.
Go ahead.

Carmen (32:15):
Sing it, sing it.

Rick (32:16):
Yeah, angelo and Veronica.
He's Hispanic and she's Italianand married.
Yeah, they're white, but youwould think they were black.

Carmen (32:25):
Yeah, what about albums ?
Okay, let me just tell you someof my favorite albums that I
can listen to from beginning toend, because this was so
Macarena, kevin, get out of here.
Get out.
Kevin Macarena.
I hated that song when it cameout and I hated it.
I hated it every time I hear it.

Rick (32:43):
I wish I wrote it.
Yeah, you'd be making money.

Carmen (32:45):
I wish you wrote it because you'd have the money
Right.
Hey, hey, I wish I wrote it too.
Don't mean I want to listen toit.
Okay, one of my favorite albumsthat I can listen to from
beginning to end without fail isthe Miseducation of Lauren Hill
.
From beginning to end everysong.
Not one fail.
What about you, tony Rick?

Tony D. (33:08):
It's a rap song.
I mean it's a rap album.
It's about a rap album it'scalled Nocturnal by a rap group
called Heltoskelton.
I had played that song.

Carmen (33:19):
What's a famous one that I would know?

Tony D. (33:22):
La Flora.

Carmen (33:22):
La Flora at Schollstein oh yeah, yeah, okay, I got you.

Tony D. (33:25):
If you know that song, I'm impressed, I am impressed.

Carmen (33:28):
I got you.
You are a queen, I love rap.

Rick (33:31):
I love rap.

Carmen (33:32):
You know, I love rap, I love old-school rap.

Tony D. (33:35):
You are a queen of Rory .
You know what I mean.
I was a queen before you heardthat.

Carmen (33:38):
Come on, I've always been a queen, took my glasses
off Me too, because it's sofunny, because I can see, like
that I can see.
It's always going to remind meof Mario when he did that.

Tony D. (33:50):
No, that was a good.
That was a good rap album.
This may not be for everybody,but if you're an old-school
hardcore hip hop fan Old school.

Carmen (33:56):
Yeah, that's old school .

Tony D. (33:57):
That was 1996.
I remember the first time Iheard it I was actually in New
York for the summer.
I was singing Add to my Sistersand I heard it.
I went and got it and I havenot stopped listening, even
damned it, to this day.

Carmen (34:08):
Really Okay.

Tony D. (34:09):
I haven't heard it in a while.

Carmen (34:10):
Yes, Okay, let me ask you this question, and then I'm
going to ask Rick too.
Okay, tupac or Biggie?

Tony D. (34:17):
For me, Tupac.

Carmen (34:18):
Yes, not even a question.

Tony D. (34:19):
I was a Tupac fan.
Well, tupac came out beforeBiggie.
He had a little bit of a runbefore Biggie came out.
So those of us who rememberbefore we were Tupac fans,
before we were Biggie fans, inall honesty, I mean again.

Carmen (34:30):
I mean there was the rivalry between the coasts,
right or whatever, and that'sfine, but I know, but it's not
no more.
But here's the thing, the thingI love about Tupac versus
Biggie and people who are Biggiefans are going to get mad at me
.
Biggie a little bit more nastythan I'd choose him to be in his
lyrics.
You know what I mean.
He's very, very dirty.

(34:52):
You know what I mean.
And very, very well, they wereboth misogynist, but I mean it.
Just it was the time.
But every time I hear a Biggiesmile and I'm like listening and
I'm like I think Tupac had moreof a Biggie had more of a
student club, vibe Tupac, hadmore of a international vibe
From what I'm saying.

(35:13):
Tupac was more of a poet too.
Biggie was a poet, biggie was agood poet.

Tony D. (35:19):
I can't talk about his rhymes, it just, and for me and
I'm going to say this, thiswould be probably one of the
most controversial things I'llever tell anybody in the hip hop
community there was a time whenhip hop needed to change and
Biggie was classic hip hop.
Tupac was to me oh, you got tothink about it like that.
You got to be an old school hiphop head to understand what I'm
talking about.
Biggie did things the oldschool way, which was

(35:40):
appreciated.
We didn't have a problem.

Carmen (35:42):
It was appreciated, it was.

Tony D. (35:43):
Well, for me, as somebody who had moved out and
was looking for somethingdifferent at a specific time,
Tupac came with somethingdifferent that was good.
His first CD was good and ithit the new aspect.
Okay, here Go ahead.

Carmen (35:55):
No, no, no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Tony D. (35:57):
Biggie gave us a classic aspect that a lot of us
who were from that area, region,state were familiar with.
To me I had already heard thatbefore and that's this almost.
It's a bit, yeah, but you can'ttake away me.

Carmen (36:09):
Big biggie was amazing.

Tony D. (36:10):
You can't say you just heard Because when he did not
from Houston, but I rap a lot Iwas driving you turn into the
record store and got it.

Rick (36:22):
I said no, that's a lot.

Tony D. (36:24):
That's gonna make me spend money.
Between that's the flavoringear remix, the what and
unbelievable, I had to go gethis CD.

Carmen (36:31):
Okay, you're saying that biggie, that that to pop
changed Rap in a different waythan what we were listening to
before that.

Tony D. (36:39):
He was different from what I was used to hearing that
I enjoyed.
The kicker with a lot of thesenew artists is you got a draw
the audience to you to pot drewme with what he did Me
specifically personally.
I liked when my homies callthat was it.

Carmen (36:56):
Okay, can I tell you and I'm gonna totally give the
cliche to pop answer.
The reason why I love to popeven more is Because when he
wrote, dear mama, that changedthe game cuz it connected.
That was like it just Overeverywhere.
It crossed over and otherpeople could.

(37:17):
Rick, do you even know whatwe're talking about?

Rick (37:21):
Fagely.

Carmen (37:22):
I'm so sorry.

Rick (37:28):
His intellectualness.

Carmen (37:30):
Have you ever heard, dear mama?

Rick (37:32):
I think I've heard it like if you played it then I'd be
like, oh yeah, but I can't thinkof it right now in my head.

Carmen (37:36):
Yeah if I played it now , though, then they would delete
it off my YouTube, wouldn'tthey?
I'll send it to you, rick,because it's really it's the
song that like.
I say this respectfully Don'tsend me no DMs about this, but
whenever I talk to white peopleabout rap and they're getting

(37:57):
all upset about like 50 cent orwhatever, or they're talking
about vanilla ice, I'm like LordJesus, like let me send you a
song so you know who to park is,cuz you know they're like oh no
, too bad, too much.
I'm like okay.

Tony D. (38:14):
Do not blame Carmen for this.
This is nothing against.

Carmen (38:21):
Okay so.
So here's my question to Tonyand Rick, and then we're gonna
move off of rap, but I just wantto get Tony's idea of Eminem.

Tony D. (38:30):
One of the best rappers out there, but he can never be
the king.

Carmen (38:34):
Okay, but why can't he be the king?
And why did you say that thatwas interesting?
Why?

Tony D. (38:39):
people want to make him the best rapper ever man, make
him the king of rap.
No, he is actually acknowledged.
The rappers before him who madehim who he was.
He will always have thatrespect.
He can be a hip hop guy, but hewould not be the hip hop guy.
Okay, now about to go on mysoapbox.
The hip hop guy does rock himand be dead king.
Y'all better stop right now.
Y'all better stop right now.

Carmen (38:59):
That's all Fighting with.
Is it he fighting in his lyrics?

Tony D. (39:03):
He's not fighting with anybody.

Carmen (39:05):
Eminem Is not have you listened to his latest, that
just.

Rick (39:08):
I haven't heard anything.

Carmen (39:10):
Oh no, rick, he's all over tiktok right now.

Tony D. (39:14):
Oh, eminem is.

Carmen (39:15):
Eminem is all over tiktok and he's arguing with not
arguing.

Tony D. (39:18):
He's just arguing with Meli Mel.
He's on with Meli Mel.

Carmen (39:22):
I don't know who he's are.
I thought he was.

Tony D. (39:25):
Meli Mel couple months ago.
I know we're talking about onthat, meli Mel says something
about him and they're going backand forth.
Yeah, eminem, the man's sick,the man's a beast.
I should get a two hourmarathon with a bunch of his
songs.

Carmen (39:35):
He's hot and that's what he will not put himself
above the legends and that's therespect we're gonna give him,
and I know but here's okay, butand we don't have to get into
this country because I amfighting with nobody, because,
again, I don't know why thereneeds to be Competition or why.
But I think it's interestingbecause he talks about the
reason why he can't ever be.
I don't think he says King, butat the top is because he is

(39:56):
white, and it's an interestingControversy to think about.
You know what I mean.

Tony D. (40:01):
Eminem is gonna go down as a hip-hop guy.
He will go down as a hip-hopguy.

Carmen (40:05):
Oh well, here I mean, there's no denying his talent,
his rhymes.
Hey, look it Again.
I wish we lived in a worldwhere color didn't matter.
But it does, and we don't livein that world.
And even when we die, it stillprobably won't be a place where
the color of our skin will belike our eye color.
It's just not gonna happen.

(40:25):
And I think the thing withhip-hop is is as much as I think
that Eminem has, you know.
I mean, he's gonna do a rapbattle with anyone.
It's gonna be something towatch, you know what I mean.

Tony D. (40:36):
It's gonna be something with him.
We killed the racial barrieroff of guilty conscience, off of
his local content, the guiltyconscience of the second song
that he came out with.
Yes, you killed that aspect offof that song alone, and so many
songs afterwards you tend tothrow that away to listen to his
raps.

Carmen (40:54):
Tony, he's not, you need to go on Correct.
He's even saying it, I think,because he's getting to the
point where I don't think he'sangry about it.
He's making the point inrespect To black artists, but
he's saying I will never be thetop and it's because of the
color of my skin, like I thinkhe's acknowledging the problem

(41:15):
of but you know what?
Look it.
I think he is Not just a geniusin his lyrical Stuffage.
I think he's a genius in thathe understands the dynamics of
race and how so many Musicianswe can talk about Elvis Presley,
for example.
We can talk about so many greatartists and I'm doing quotes

(41:36):
for a reason that stole and didnot give credit agreed and
that's why I think he is sayingthat.
I don't think he's saying itlike I'm angry, I'm mad.

Tony D. (41:46):
He's saying it like no way he accepts the accolades
that he has gotten the levelthat he is going to the fanfare,
the fan base.
People want to see him, want tohear him.
He has hung on some of the bestrappers out past and present,
so he's going to be up there.

Carmen (42:03):
He just can't be sorry, but when you have Snoop Dogg
and dr Dre in your corner, Idon't even know what else to say
.

Tony D. (42:09):
He's pretty amazing.
Every major rapper respectinghim yeah.

Carmen (42:15):
If he said, talks about him all the time with just
complete love and joy, and I'mjust like no, why?

Tony D. (42:20):
because he sounded the.

Carmen (42:24):
I know, but still, but he's.
But he's lived up to the hype,like you can't deny M&M.

Tony D. (42:30):
You got his respect.
That's all you want.

Carmen (42:32):
Yeah, you can't deny him he's so good.
And somebody was talking to meabout like well, what about
vanilla ice?
I'm like stop, you're in thewrong.

Tony D. (42:41):
In the wrong room I think.

Rick (42:47):
I think if every you know happy that everybody said, okay,
we all voted M&M, you are theking, he'd be like no, I'm not
comfortable with that.

Tony D. (42:56):
I think, as far as the hip-hop community itself and the
way the genre has grown.
He came after the greats.
Everybody formatted themselvesafter the originals period.

Rick (43:07):
Yeah but that's what happens all the time right.

Carmen (43:11):
Look at.
The reason why I pause is I'mgonna have to send you guys a
couple of TikTok clips of hislatest album or whatever.
That was just recently releasednot months ago, but just
recently and I've been watchingthem and it's and it's
fascinating to me Because he islashing out and saying things I
think out of respect, but alsoeggnog, like I think M&M

(43:32):
believes he is the greatestrapper.
I don't think there's anythingwrong with that.

Tony D. (43:35):
I haven't heard an album since 2018.
I see it must be curtain call.

Carmen (43:38):
No, no, he has an album out now.
He has an album or he's doingsomething on TikTok because
everyone's talking about it.
Let me see.
Ted Hicks said Carmen, afteryour show, played Jill Scott's
album by popular demand.
You can listen to the entirethis.
I know who Jill Scott is.
What's Ted Hicks doing?

Tony D. (43:53):
that woman's music is dangerous to me.

Carmen (43:55):
Come on now, bobby Samps.
You have to be relevant, 24 7.
I am baby, but thank you.
Did he get a star on the walkof fame?
Who?
M&m, I guess, since we've beentalking about him if you ain't
on the tune or M&M or 5 9, youain't Competition, just a fish.
You're trying to buy the line.
I don't know.
Is this a lyric?

(44:15):
I don't know what you'retalking about.

Tony D. (44:17):
Where's the 5 9?
I don't know who to.
I know who works to find I'm.
Worse to 5 9 is good.
Those two are homeboys.
Worse to 5 9 is very good.
He's one of the more underratedrappers of hip hop ever, hey
obby stamps.

Carmen (44:27):
Let me explain.
People don't know that the wayin which you get a star on the
walk of fame, yes, hollywood hasto say you can get this, you
know.
The city of Hollywood has tosay it's okay for you to get a
star on the walk of fame.
However, what people don't knowis that you have to pay for
that.
So usually a production companyor management company, they pay

(44:49):
for it.
So there's a reason why, likeall the people from what was
that show with ray Ray Romano?

Rick (44:56):
what was everybody loves Raymond.

Carmen (44:59):
Everybody on ray romano show has a star on the walk of
fame Except ray romano, becausehe refused to pay for yeah.
I mean I don't know if that'schanged recently, but yeah, I
mean, no offense to the walk offame thing, but I it doesn't
mean that much to me anyways,now that I understood that, I
learned that when I first movedhere.

(45:20):
Latoria, I want to say her name.
Right, we're gonna have to talk.

Rick (45:25):
We're gonna have to talk.

Carmen (45:26):
There's a difference between the king and a king,
because the originals would becrowned the king.
We're done with theconversation.
Yes, okay, thank you.
The clarity is on point.
We're done.
Thank you, latoria.
I know I'm messing up her name.

(45:46):
I know that's not how you'renot.

Tony D. (45:50):
No, you're good.
That's how Rick said.
That's how you pronounce it,latoria.

Carmen (45:53):
But have you met her and talked to her in person?

Rick (45:56):
Who Latoria?
Yeah, she's been on my sheliterally.
Okay, she's been on mybroadcast a lot.

Carmen (46:02):
I'm saying, do I mean on?
You've talked to her in personand you got the vocal?
How to say her name?

Rick (46:09):
Yeah, yeah.

Carmen (46:10):
Okay, it just don't feel right.
I'm not feeling it right.
I feel like I'm gonna Latoria.
Can you tell me how?
If I'm saying your name right,it just looks beautiful.
Look at Tony's all in it.
Tony, you can drop out anytimeyou have the power.
I can't believe Like this, likeI'm not even sure what it is.

Rick (46:29):
Kevin.

Carmen (46:30):
Naske says you have to pay $10,000 a year to maintain.
He's talking about the wholeblock of fame.
So yeah, life is bogus.
What's that?
Is that an album?

Tony D. (46:38):
Bogus.

Carmen (46:39):
Bogus bogus.
Again.
I should put on my glasses.
I'm like bogus.

Tony D. (46:44):
That's Bobby D and Bobby over there.

Carmen (46:47):
Yes, rick, and I have spoken and yes, you're doing it
right.
Okay, thank you, thank you.
Okay, thank you, rick.
I questioned you.
I wanna apologize, oh you'regood, I'm so sorry, but you know
I have that stuttering problem,so I really feel bad sometimes
because I mess up, I hackpeople's names and it's not
intentional.
So thank you.

Rick (47:07):
Not intending to bring back Lucy, but there was one
where John Wayne.
John Wayne.
He did the.
What do you call it?
Now?
We just talked about the stars.
That's the footprint thing,what's?

Carmen (47:20):
it called Hollywood Walk of Fame.

Rick (47:23):
Where you had the footprints right and you signed
it the Chinese Man's Theater.
So he did that, and then Lucymessed it up.
But he didn't know she messedit up, so then she kept trying
to get him to stand on somecement so she could fix it.

Carmen (47:38):
This was an episode.

Rick (47:39):
This was an episode.

Carmen (47:41):
Oh yeah, so I love.
But you see, this is Rick's job.
He brings us way back to thebeginning right at one hour mark
.
Go ahead, baby, okay.
Tony D.
Main Source Breaking AdamsEntire Disk.

Tony D. (47:58):
That's old school Looking out the front door.
I got you.

Carmen (48:02):
So, rick, any albums.

Rick (48:05):
I didn't hear any albums from beginning to end from you
because I was talking too muchthere was this is gonna be a
Christian one and it's a worshipone, so it's like a church
appropriate one, but it's calledHeaven on Earth by David and
Nicole Binion.
And, yeah, I've listened tothat a bajillion times, from
beginning to end.

Carmen (48:22):
A bajillion.
Yeah, I also have to give ashout out to one of my favorite
artists, who I love.
I can listen to his album Faithover and, over and over, and I
do it's in my car.
George Michael.
May he rest in sweet peace.
I love George Michael.
And what I love about BlackFolk is we all love George
Michael.

Tony D. (48:40):
We all love George Michael.

Carmen (48:41):
His voice was in the, in the, in the, in the in his
ability, and this is what wasgreat about George Michael.
The reason why is cause healways, always gave respect and
credit where credit was due toBlack Folk.
And then he went and won, likeone of the awards at like, one
of the like at the forget what.
What award show it was, but heshould not have won right, cause

(49:04):
it was in the genre of Blackmusic.
And he got up there andeverybody was happy for him.
Anyways, I'll send you thevideo clip.
I forget.

Tony D. (49:11):
Yeah, please send me.
I never heard of that, the onlyone I've ever heard.

Carmen (49:13):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a big deal.
I think he won the award thatyou know every Black artist
should have won, and I think hewas humbled by that.

Tony D. (49:22):
You spoke out on behalf of people cool.

Carmen (49:24):
I mean, I loved him from day one, but when they were
doing their cheesy rap songback in wherever he's from
London, they were doing theirweird cheesy.
It was like in the 80s.

Rick (49:36):
Oh.

Carmen (49:36):
Ram yeah Wham you know what I mean.

Tony D. (49:39):
Wham was jamming, though Wham was jamming.

Carmen (49:41):
But they were doing rap .
It was so bad.
If you go back and listen to it.
It's so cheesy but it's fun andpoppy and whatever.

Rick (49:48):
Wake me up the fire, you go Well that was later on.

Carmen (49:51):
I'm talking about the look at Tony.
Tony gets embarrassed for you.
It's hard.

Tony D. (49:56):
No, I have hope.
We always do this all the time.

Carmen (50:00):
I think Rick is a natural goofball though.

Rick (50:02):
Oh yeah.

Carmen (50:03):
Are you really, but why did you put it on the side?

Rick (50:06):
I get it from my dad.

Carmen (50:08):
Did.
Did you ever see that moviewith Nathan Lane and Robin
Williams, the Birdcage, whereRobin Williams is on stage and
he's trying to explain to the,to the guy that he has to do?
Martha Graham, Martha Graham,you know what?
Madonna, Madonna, you don'tremember that?

Tony D. (50:26):
Is that the one where you better watch it?

Carmen (50:28):
It was so funny, but it just reminded that because,
okay, I'm not going to do a goodimpression and I don't even
know the word.
Well, but he goes.
Martha, you have to act likethis.
This is he's trying to tell thedancer how he has to dance and
he says you have to do MarthaGraham, Martha Graham, Madonna,
Madonna, and then and he sayssome other ones, and then he
goes.
But you have to keep it allinside.

(50:49):
It's classic Robin Williams,like classic, Cause he's like
all over the place, you knowwhat I mean.
And he does all these differentones.

Rick (50:58):
Isn't that the one where the guy who was gay had to
pretend he was like straight,but he couldn't really do it?

Carmen (51:03):
So it's.
It's not just any guy.
Gene Hackman plays the fatherand the son is going to date the
daughter of Nathan Lane andRobin Williams, characters who
are married.
By the way, this is back in theday before.
This was an okay thing, youknow what I mean?

Tony D. (51:19):
That was in the 80s, wasn't it?

Carmen (51:20):
I think it was like nine, 80s or early 90s.

Tony D. (51:22):
It was 89, 90,.

Carmen (51:23):
yeah, and Gene Hackman plays the father and he has to
dress in a, in a outfit of awoman Like he.
You know what I mean?
He dresses in drag, basically,and to get out of where he's in.
So it's, it's just a really fun.
I think I'm gonna watch thatmovie again 1996, my apologies.

Rick (51:42):
Oh yeah, it was, I did see that.

Tony D. (51:44):
Yeah, I did see that Later than when I thought it was
.

Carmen (51:46):
It was really funny, and I mean I'm sure it's a
little bit dated now, but I meanRobin Williams, I love him oh
he's another woman.

Tony D. (51:54):
He was the best actor's ever.

Carmen (51:56):
Just such a good, funny person, yeah, and he was a
little sticky for me too, but Iloved him, so it didn't matter,
you know.
And I loved him because Iremember when the three of them
you know, I love people who docharity stuff Whoopi Goldberg,
robin Williams, billy Crystal,billy Crystal.

Tony D. (52:12):
Billy Crystal.
Billy Crystal Whoopi, goldberg,robin, the Common Relief, billy
Crystal Right Classic, yeah,and they were raising money all
the time for homeless people.

Carmen (52:20):
They were amazing, so, but I can't believe we're past
the hour.
This is so much fun.
I'm done with y'all, though.
I'm ready to go.

Rick (52:30):
We got a hundred messages.
We got a hundred messages.

Carmen (52:32):
We can stay on a little bit, but is Ted calling you?

Tony D. (52:35):
There's coming on.
Next, just use.

Carmen (52:37):
Yeah, so I am going to cut it off so that we can have
Ted do his show.
The Bird Cage is a remake ofthe French film called the La
Cage à Foules.

Tony D. (52:45):
I can't say La Cage à Foules.

Carmen (52:47):
Thank you.
Thank you, tony.
Both are comedies about dragqueens at burlesque shows
Exactly Fantastic, thank you.
Hey, everyone, thank you somuch for stopping by.
I appreciate you all.
It is always so much fun.
Please check out the website.
I'm going to let you go, tony.
Go do your thing with Ted.

Rick (53:05):
Late night parents.

Carmen (53:07):
Late night parentscom.
They're on YouTube.
They're on blah, blah blah.

Tony D. (53:12):
YouTube, twitter.
We'll be all over the place.
Just look forlatenightparentscom.

Carmen (53:15):
Honestly, yeah, so go check them out, especially on
YouTube.
Very easy.
Bye, ted.
Have a great show.
Muah muah muah.
I'm in the stream, babies Seey'all.
Good Peace.
Thanks for stopping by.
All about the joy Be better andstay beautiful.
Folks have a sweet day.