November 12, 2023 • 64 mins
In this episode, we express our gratitude to Fran Dresser, the president of SAG AFTRA, for her brilliant leadership during this period and rejoice in the fact that the strike is finally over! We also share updates about our weeks, from Cynthia's bustling schedule at the hospital due to an influx of new COVID and flu cases, to Joy's delightful family visit in East Tennessee.
Here's a sneak peek: Would you dare to jump out of a plane on your 30th birthday or just for fun? Because two of us did. This episode takes you on a whirlwind of emotions as we dig into some of our most extraordinary personal experiences. We cover Cynthia's heart-loving Swimming with the Dolphins quest, Joy's parasailing escapades, Andrea and Carmen's Sky-Diving adventures... But don't worry, we're not all adrenaline junkies here. Rick's fear of water is both funny and touching... and well, we've got our fair share of laugh-out-loud moments as we poke fun at each other's stories and discuss our potential collaborations.
We also take a serious tone, but only for a moment to discuss the differences in how each generation uses the internet. Gen X, Versus Millennials and Gen Z. It's based on a blog post from last week which you can read on my personal website for more information.
So, join in for a blend of thoughtful discussions sprinkled with a hearty dose of humor and camaraderie on another fun-filled podcast of sheer joy!
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Music By Geovane Bruno, Moments, 3481
Editing by Team A-J
Host, Carmen Lezeth
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Carmen Lezeth (00:00):
Hey everyone, Welcome to All About the Joy.
I'm so glad to be here.
I'm sorry I'm mid laughingbecause Cynthia cannot see one
of us on screen.
Andrea Nunez (00:13):
You have to guess.
Which one You'll have to guess,I can't tell you.
Carmen Lezeth (00:21):
I don't know, can you see her now?
No, oh well, we all know it'sRick.
Andrea Nunez (00:28):
I'll see.
If there were people in thelive stream we could have said
we're not going to say until theend of the show.
Carmen Lezeth (00:36):
We're going to keep it as a mystery.
I don't even know what to doabout it.
I think we're going to justhave to roll with it.
Cynthia, Like Andrea said, ayou problem Just going to have
to use your imagination, Cynthia.
Yeah, but wait, here's thething.
People will have to guess whoit is.
You can't see.
Cynthia Ruiz (01:01):
I can hear everybody.
Carmen Lezeth (01:05):
Anyway, let me welcome everyone to this show.
Of course, cynthia is here withus with her fabulous blowed out
hairdo Fabulous, lookingWonderful.
Yes, I wanted to also give ashout out to Joy.
Thank you for joining us andyou're looking perfect and
fabulous.
Say hello to everyone, girl.
Hello everybody.
Andrea, so glad you're here.
(01:27):
You know I got much love foryou.
So happy to see you and yourhair looks great too.
All the ladies looking fabulous, of course, and Rick Costa Got
you baby.
How you doing.
Rick Costa (01:37):
What's up.
Carmen Lezeth (01:38):
What's up?
So welcome.
I first want to start with afew announcements that everybody
knows I'm really really excitedabout, and the SAG After Strike
is over, yay.
So it's a little tentative,although everyone has come out.
Fran Dresser just sent, who isthe president of SAG After, sent
(02:01):
everyone an email.
We've been updated on a prettydaily basis from SAG After.
They've been amazing as anegotiating committee but also
just keeping us all informed,and it's going to be ratified
Hopefully on Friday.
It's just so kind of exciting.
They really, from what we know,we haven't had the ability to
read it yet, but we got what wewanted.
(02:23):
So, for the most part, I'm surethere's a lot of negotiation,
but the AI part was a really bigone.
So, 118 days.
Shout out to all the actorsthat were on the picket lines,
also to IOTC, all the otherunions, wga.
I also want to give a shout outto all the other people who are
impacted.
Again, I cannot stress enoughthis impacted, you know, all the
(02:48):
people who work in the crewscaterers, makeup artists, people
who do hair and costume design,editors.
It impacted restaurants,location scouts.
This didn't just impact actors,it impacted so many people.
So thank you for everyone whostood with the union and I'm
just so excited and everyone'sgoing to get back to work.
(03:10):
So, yay, and Rick, you and Ican have our show that we want
to just talk about Stargate.
Rick Costa (03:19):
Finally.
Carmen Lezeth (03:20):
Movies now and television, and we've been
really trying to not I've beentrying to not do it.
It has slipped a few times withguests or with people, but Rick
, let it out, let it out, can'twait, yeah, so I just wanted to
give that announcement.
The other thing I wanted tojust throw out there I already
(03:40):
mentioned Fran Drusher, but Ijust want to say I know people
know her from the nanny, but Iam just I love amazing, fabulous
people, and who would havethought the actress from the
nanny would have become thepowerhouse president of SAG
AFTRA and then lead us throughthis?
I just find that I just lovefabulous, amazing people who
(04:03):
stick to their guns and do ittheir way with their style, so I
wanted to give a shout out toher.
You know, just amazing.
Okay, I just want to see howyou guys are doing first before
we go into our next thing.
How are you guys doing, cynthia?
How was your week so far?
(04:25):
Yeah and you can't see one of us.
So glad you could hear us.
That was good.
(04:46):
I didn't know that Okay it hasbeen given.
Do you want to share whathappened this week?
That's just, you don't have to.
Cynthia Ruiz (04:58):
It's just a stressful week.
You know the hospital is crazyand everyone coming in with
COVID and flu oh yeah, numbersare going back up.
It's been a little crazy atwork.
Carmen Lezeth (05:10):
I mean, I mean, is it numbers coming back up to
like we might be afraid?
Again or it's just this isgoing to be the new normal in
the fall, or something.
Cynthia Ruiz (05:19):
It's going to be the new normal.
It's definitely going to be thenew normal, but I mean they're
not making the mass mandatoryright now, so the numbers aren't
that crazy, which is good, butI mean it's going to be just
like the flu.
Every year you're going to haveto, you know, just be
precocious.
Carmen Lezeth (05:37):
I just went and got another COVID shot.
Like I'm kind of, oh, I got theCOVID and the flu shot just two
days ago.
I'm kind of over it, I have totell you, but I'm going to do it
.
Yeah, joy, how is your week?
How are you doing anythingwonderful, joyous or miserable,
like Cynthia?
Joy Gouge (05:57):
No, so good, Just getting ready, packing, getting
ready to fly out to EastTennessee again on Saturday.
So why are we going toTennessee?
Carmen Lezeth (06:08):
We why?
Joy Gouge (06:09):
are we going?
Carmen Lezeth (06:09):
to.
Cynthia Ruiz (06:09):
Tennessee.
Joy Gouge (06:12):
Well, I'm going back to East Tennessee to visit my
family.
Oh, are you there for theholidays?
Or like early and just goingfor a week this time, and then I
will.
We'll be back for Thanksgivinghere in Memphis and then I'm
flying back the first week ofDecember.
Carmen Lezeth (06:32):
Oh, okay, traveling, you're always
traveling, by the way.
That's what I noticed.
Yeah, traveling Queen over here.
Rick Costa (06:40):
Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (06:41):
Okay, cool, but you had a great week.
Great or good week, it was good.
It was good.
Good car that don't sound likeit was good.
But okay, we don't know what,that we don't go.
Andrea, I already know some ofskip you for now.
We're going to do it later,because we already I already
know that's gonna be aconversation.
Rick Costa (07:03):
It was okay.
Work was weird because they'restill moving buildings and they
still haven't finished.
I don't know who's where whatbuilding y'all are in and I'm
like people call can I talk to?
I don't know where he's atright now.
So works been very weird andthey haven't even shipped most
stuff that should be shipped bynow.
But anyway, and there was somebacklash from last week that I
(07:25):
did not discuss with you becauseI didn't want you to get upset
about it, but I got thrown intothe show.
Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (07:32):
I got enough backlash, but I got some good
stuff to.
I got good backlash.
Rick Costa (07:37):
So the funny thing to me was the funny thing to me
was so said person was onanother person's broadcasts who
used to be mortal enemies, nowthey're best my besties with
their clothes and like mindblown.
And then the other one said oh,rick Costa, oh I, he's a fraud.
I talked to him, to him onabsent.
(08:00):
I proved he was a fraud.
I'm like I never even talked toyou in my life.
What are you talking about?
Carmen Lezeth (08:05):
Yeah, crazy and I think that's about as much as
we gonna give that issue.
Yeah, I'm done on the show, butyou know what it's like.
Here's the good news.
I got, first of all, some ofthe most amazing Compliments.
I got so many more people whoare following the podcast to
like.
Some of my old school friendswere like finally, the real
(08:28):
Carmen came out.
Rick Costa (08:29):
Sassy Carmen is back .
Carmen Lezeth (08:32):
Somebody was like we like this Carmen better than
the polished Carmen.
One of my clients who wascrying Melanie's like yay,
tony's like damn.
One of my clients was watchingthis show.
(08:55):
I was cracking up because hetalked about it.
He was like you know what?
That's how you have to rallythe troops here.
I want you to swear, but I got.
(09:18):
I Thought it was really goodand I think I think one of the
things that's really interestingabout life is Again and I'm not
trying to keep saying this, butwhen you can actually find the
joy in things.
You know, and what I realized.
I was speaking to someone todaywho watched the show, who said
(09:40):
one of the things that I lovedabout watching you is that we're
so used to seeing the polishedCarmen and not that we want to
see that person all the time,but it was nice to see that
other side of you, you know, andand I was like I can't believe
you saying this to me, you know-that, that's, that's the car.
Cynthia Ruiz (10:00):
And what with that picture you posted?
Carmen Lezeth (10:10):
Oh my god.
So yeah, I you know what I sayalways stay away from the
negativity, grab on to thepositivity and ignore what you
can.
Had a moment where I wasn'tgood at ignoring, but you know
that was also on my show, soalright, everyone buckle up,
andrea I.
Andrea Nunez (10:32):
Always stay away from the negativity.
I was like, okay, fine,everybody, crap week.
It's been really hard at somework stuff.
It's been happening since lastFriday.
I'm losing sleep, I got likeit's just been rough and I'm
(10:54):
trying to take care ofEverybody's feelings and
expectations, which is not.
You know, you can't reallydiscuss what happened or not.
Carmen Lezeth (11:04):
We cannot discuss .
I do know Andrea and I went outto dinner last week and we ate
and we talked, and so I I doknow what happened and I'm just
so sorry I'll put it in thisterms it's, it's always
difficult when you manage a teamof people and and you have to
keep lifting people up.
(11:25):
It's really hard, especiallywhen your clients upset or
whatever, and that's what I'llsay.
That kind of puts a littlebutton on it.
But so I feel for you and I'mjust sorry you're still going
through it and and yeah, alright, well, we wish you well.
Well, hopefully you'll have alittle bit of laughter today.
Rick Costa (11:41):
My joy right here if you're not up yourself but you
got to make everybody else,that's even harder.
Andrea Nunez (11:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's true.
Carmen Lezeth (11:49):
Well, how do you guys deal with that?
If you are not feeling greatbut you have to lift other
people up, how do you getyourself there?
That's actually an interestingquestion.
Rick Costa (11:59):
Fake it till, I make it.
Carmen Lezeth (12:03):
That's fair.
Fake it to you, make it Yep.
Cynthia Ruiz (12:06):
Cynthia, pretty much the same.
You show one side to your teamand then you can go to the
bathroom and cry your eyes outif you need to.
Andrea Nunez (12:14):
Oh, andrea um, I mean, yeah, a version of that,
for sure, you know you have toBe polished right, put on the
face and like, put that outthere for everybody.
But for me I have to havesomeone like you or somebody
else that I can then go and belike you know you got.
(12:34):
You have to have that outlet,you know joy.
Carmen Lezeth (12:37):
How do you deal with it?
Joy Gouge (12:38):
I'm the same way you know, because you just have to
compartmentalize it and Move onand focus on your team and not
focus on yourself, which is hard, yeah, it's really hard
sometimes.
Carmen Lezeth (12:52):
Yeah, I don't know if I do any of that.
I Don't know, I don't know whatyou do.
Well, I mean, I think that'swhy my client was so funny,
because he was just like I wantyou to swear more, like I'm not
gonna swear, but it's reallyhard for me to hide when I'm
disappointed in people, or youknow, look at, most of times
(13:14):
people call me to fire people or, you know, things are a
disaster.
That's when people want to hireme, right, and then I have the
maintenance clients that I keepon, but what ends up happening
is I never end up firing mostpeople because it's usually Not
their fault.
It's usually the person whohired me setting up unrealistic,
realistic expectations orwhatever it is.
And I think one of the thingsI'm really good at and I don't
(13:36):
mean this, to go back to lastweek's show, I don't have a
problem at confrontation andI've learned how to Look it, and
this is a stylistic thing.
This is not something Irecommend to anyone else,
because I've been burnt so manytimes too as I went through this
process.
I think we just all havedifferent styles, but when I'm
not feeling up or whatever, isprobably when I shine most.
(13:57):
And, andrea, I was telling youat dinner.
I was telling you at dinner theother night, like I think I
have been doing Oscar worthylike Performances in front of my
clients.
Just I feel like so many timesI'm like just acting through it
all.
So maybe that's how I handle it.
(14:18):
But I I don't have a problemtelling people exactly what I
think is.
I guess I Think you all saw aversion of that.
But just even in in regularlife, and when I'm tired, I tell
people I got time for this, I'mtired, let's talk about this
tomorrow at four o'clock.
That's my opening on mycalendar, like and I'm very
blunt about it, you know or I'lltell people to stop texting me,
(14:41):
like I told one team the otherday no more texting me after six
.
We're just not, I'm notanswering it, you're all on
silent.
So if there's an emergencycalled a police, fire department
or your boss, you know, to me,no art, don't bother me, I'm not
paying that much.
Andrea Nunez (15:03):
Yeah, slow and deliberate and make sure that
whatever I say is what Iactually want to say.
So I try to really take a beatand Let my emotions calm down so
that I can deal with thesituation in the way that I
actually want to, versus beinglike super reactive.
Carmen Lezeth (15:24):
I'm super reactive, yeah, super no, but
even that work, I just yeah, Idon't.
It's not that I don't care, IThink there's.
I mean, I know what you'resaying, you know, yeah, I
totally get that, but I all thisis, it's just a different style
.
I think I also really do trustmy initial gut and emotional
(15:48):
instinct.
You know, I was talking to Tedtoday, ted Hicks, who we love,
whatever and I was asking himhow do you deal with?
You know, like, let's be honest,ted Hicks has a pristine image,
like on the internet, likeeverybody loves to, and I was
(16:09):
like how do you deal, though,with people or when things erupt
, or whatever?
And he was like I don't.
And I was like, yeah, okay,okay.
But he's like, no, no, carmen,I I don't Walk away from it, I
ignore it, I would ever.
And I was like, see, that's awhole other level of skill I
will never have, you know,because I think there's a level
(16:32):
of patience there or like IDon't know what it is, but at
some point people are gonna pissme off enough and I'm gonna say
something.
Oh yeah mute and sneeze.
That was so good, because thenit makes it easier for me.
Cynthia Ruiz (16:46):
I was like Andrea I.
Rick Costa (17:09):
Love how you.
Carmen Lezeth (17:21):
I brought up 10 Hicks.
I did that for a reason becauseI thought it'd be an easy way
segue.
So Ted Hicks wanted me to askyou all, joy you to, even though
you weren't there last time.
I guess the guys want to doanother collab, but they want to
do it in December.
And I said I didn't hear.
My people said they wanted todo it again.
Andrea Nunez (17:43):
It would be a lot of live on the air.
Carmen Lezeth (17:50):
You can think about it, mull it over and let
me know.
Andrea Nunez (17:54):
I'd be happy to do it.
I just got it.
You know like December is arough month, but yeah Well,
cynthia joy I.
Joy Gouge (18:02):
Will try.
I guess it depends on what time.
Carmen Lezeth (18:06):
Well, it would be at six o'clock, it would be at
the same time, but it would beon a Friday.
So it's gonna be one of theDecember Fridays.
Did I say that right?
A Friday in December.
So I'll send you guys an emailand I mean I, all of them want
to do it, or whatever, and whichis kind of cool.
I just didn't even think aboutit because I thought we're gonna
(18:26):
do it Maybe quarterly.
But he has a idea, a theme,what he wants to ask questions
about.
I'm like, okay, cool.
Joy Gouge (18:36):
Is he gonna host?
Carmen Lezeth (18:37):
this time.
I think I mean he hosted lasttime I didn't host.
Well, I mean like on his.
So the reason why we weren'tusing his is because he can't
have the comments on oh I, it'sbecause they don't have, so he
has to be reading them and thenputting them up one by one.
Yeah, you know what I mean and,and I don't know, it just seems
(18:59):
like a lot of work if all of usare on there and yeah, no, do
you want to be on?
Oh, he invited you on his show,so you're all game if it fits
in your schedule.
Yeah, I'm not feeling a lot ofenthusiasm, I guess because
you're being recorded, so we'lltalk about it later and I'll
take the blame for saying no,it's okay, you All right.
(19:19):
So I sent you guys all a littlelist and I wanted to ask you all
what is something extraordinarythat you've done that you may
or may not do again, and I wentskydiving back in 2005.
It's a great video, it'shilarious.
It was cut down to one minute,but I found the 15 minute one.
I'm not going to make you allwatch it, but I'm going to redo
(19:42):
it because the music on it,which is really cool, it's
Eminem and it's YouTube.
Every time I try to post it itgets taken down because it's not
licensed.
But the skydiving place did it.
So I found the actual originalvideo and I'm going to try with
all my new editing skills toredo it with some different
music so that I can show it,because I think it's kind of
(20:05):
cool.
But I love that video, not justbecause it's me skydiving, but
I'm talking to the camera guy.
You would think that I wastalking to him.
He can't hear me, but I'mtalking to him.
You're like get this light, I'mhaving a full on conversation
(20:26):
with nobody, because Mario can'thear me and Nathan is the
camera guy, clearly can't hearme, but it looks like I'm having
this whole conversation.
It's just kind of cool andanyways, but I would do that
again in a heartbeat and so itgot me thinking about that and I
just wanted to know if there'sanything extraordinary that you
guys want to do, haven't done,already did and never want to do
(20:47):
again.
Andrea.
Andrea Nunez (20:49):
Well, mine is also skydiving, so I don't know if
that's cheating.
Carmen Lezeth (20:53):
That's not cheating.
Did you go skydiving and Ididn't know?
Andrea Nunez (20:56):
Yeah, so I'm reluctant to bring this up, but
so I was skydiving on my 30thbirthday and like there was a
whole group of people and Idon't know why is like, why
weren't you?
Cynthia Ruiz (21:10):
there.
I'm so sorry yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (21:13):
Wait, what age was this?
Andrea Nunez (21:17):
My 30th birthday.
Carmen Lezeth (21:19):
Okay, so I think we're getting to a point right.
Andrea Nunez (21:22):
This is why you're reluctant because you got upset
about the surprise party thatyou were somehow not invited I
know that you were not invitedto this, but I have no way to
prove that.
Carmen Lezeth (21:39):
That's such a bullshittery.
I had a surprise party for me.
I didn't know about it.
Now you're mad at me for notinviting you.
Andrea Nunez (21:49):
Okay, you want to go back here?
Carmen Lezeth (21:52):
Because you just think you went skydiving, which
I never knew that you wentskydiving and you've been lying
to me all these years.
You want to talk about how youdidn't invite me to the
skydiving party.
Andrea Nunez (22:09):
I feel like I would have invited you All,
right, okay, I don't actuallyremember.
Here's like it was a group ofpeople, so it was my boyfriend
at the time who which was who do.
I know.
Carmen Lezeth (22:21):
Yeah.
Andrea Nunez (22:24):
You know didn't like him and my mom went your
mom went to.
Carmen Lezeth (22:29):
I love.
Joy Gouge (22:31):
Your mom was skydiving.
Cynthia Ruiz (22:33):
Yeah, yeah.
Andrea Nunez (22:34):
Yeah, and then a couple of friends, but I
honestly don't remember who.
Carmen Lezeth (22:41):
Well, I can't believe your mom went and you
didn't invite me.
Andrea Nunez (22:47):
So we went to this place.
I know I invited you.
I was in San Diego where youcould see the water, which was
really nice.
And we get there and everyone'syou know you have to sign the
waivers and everything.
You're not really thinking.
(23:07):
You're trying not to thinkabout it, Right?
You're like, oh okay, Like wecould literally all die and I
was like this could be theactual worst day of my life.
I was in love with her.
I could die in front of me, ormy boyfriend, who I love, or one
of my friends.
Like this was a horrible idea,but not Carmen, because she
(23:30):
wasn't there but.
I didn't like love it.
You know what I mean Like.
So I just feel like I'm I'mgood, I don't need to do that.
Carmen Lezeth (23:37):
Oh, you don't need to do it again.
Andrea Nunez (23:39):
Oh no.
Carmen Lezeth (23:40):
Did you video tape it?
Andrea Nunez (23:41):
Yeah, there's a video.
Oh my God, I've never seen thevideo.
Carmen Lezeth (23:45):
Wow, I've never seen it.
I've never seen it.
Cynthia Ruiz (23:47):
I've never seen it , I've never seen it.
Carmen Lezeth (23:48):
I've never seen it.
I've never seen it.
I've never seen it.
I've never seen it, I've neverseen it.
Rick Costa (23:57):
You've been, you've been hiding it because this is a
fight We'll have offscreen,that's okay.
Andrea Nunez (24:01):
I think Andrea was saving your life subconsciously
.
That's what I choose my lifeI've already gone skydiving.
Yeah, she didn't want to riskyou again.
Your skydiving In 2005,.
That was after my.
Cynthia Ruiz (24:09):
Yeah, that was way after her.
Joy Gouge (24:11):
Not way.
Cynthia Ruiz (24:12):
I was like oh, I'm like 25 years.
Andrea Nunez (24:19):
That was like me, sorry.
Carmen Lezeth (24:24):
I can't stop laughing.
Okay, we're going to talk later.
I feel like there's more totalk about that and I feel like
we're even, because I I can'tbelieve you're laughing.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm
sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'msorry, I'm sorry.
Andrea Nunez (24:45):
I can't believe your mother didn't invite me.
That's the weird you.
That's why.
I believe you were invited, butanyway, we can oh wow, we know
what or that I wasn't invited.
Carmen Lezeth (24:53):
Oh my God, I got it.
Yeah, I'm.
I'm going to pull a 10 X andI'm going to just ignore.
Rick Costa (25:00):
Ignore.
Carmen Lezeth (25:03):
I'm pulling a 10 X.
Okay, joy, what about you?
Joy Gouge (25:07):
You know, the weird thing is I don't know if I'm
really done anythingextraordinary.
I would like to go parasailingagain.
Carmen Lezeth (25:16):
You don't think that's extraordinary parasailing
?
I don't know.
Oh my God, don't keep her headjust like that, but it really
was a lot of fun, though itreally was.
Is this because you're sobougie?
Joy Gouge (25:31):
It's kind of one of the regular basis Parasailing,
parasailing, parasailing,parasailing, parasailing.
Cynthia Ruiz (25:36):
Parasailing.
Carmen Lezeth (25:36):
Parasailing, parasailing, parasailing,
pararasailing.
Joy Gouge (25:42):
Can you come over?
Well, the funny thing, you know, we're talking about skydiving.
And I was laying in my hospitalbed right after I had a blood
clot in my lung and the doctorwalks in.
The very first thing he says tome is no skydiving for you.
My mom was like Thank you,jesus.
And then he's like Uh, it'sLike he's planning to going to.
Carmen Lezeth (26:08):
Oh, you were gonna go, I was planning it yep.
I think power sailing wasscarier than skydiving.
I've never been power sailing,but I would think that's scarier
To me.
It would be.
Joy Gouge (26:20):
It's like, once you get up in the air, it's like so
peaceful because it's justsilent, you know, and I mean you
can see the ocean.
I was on the ocean and youcould just it was just, it was
beautiful, it really wasbeautiful.
Carmen Lezeth (26:35):
When you're really up high and it feels like
you're going slowly and howlong were you up there?
Probably about 10 minutes.
Yeah, no, that's too long.
No, no, no, no, no.
Andrea Nunez (26:46):
That's where you're like, attached to the
boat, right With a parachute,yeah, yeah, no, that always
looked fun to me.
But then you see the videowhere they get detached and then
they like float off somewhere.
Joy Gouge (26:58):
Yeah, no, I can't think about that, that's hand
gliding right.
Carmen Lezeth (27:03):
I mean, there's a difference between power
sailing and hand gliding.
I would never go hand gliding,for sure.
Joy Gouge (27:07):
Now see, when I was in San Francisco I was actually
going to try to get with one ofmy friend, chris, for a city.
He knew somebody that was doingthe hand gliding but the timing
just didn't work out for us.
Carmen Lezeth (27:21):
But I was actually going to go hand
gliding.
No, that I wouldn't do Wow okay, you're an adventurous, yeah, I
was yeah, here.
I thought I was all cool beingthe only one who wins skydive.
Clearly not, yeah, and clearlyI'm not the only bougie person
in the room.
So, okay, cynthia, and I justwant to give a shout out to
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people.
If you still don't know whoCynthia can't see.
Blah, blah, blah, okay, hasanything changed, cynthia?
Nope, okay, well, whatever,yeah, what about you?
What about you?
Cynthia Ruiz (27:57):
I don't think I've done anything extraordinary,
but I do want to swim withdolphins.
Oh, me too.
Carmen Lezeth (28:04):
I do want to do that.
Yeah, that does nothing for me,but yeah.
Cynthia Ruiz (28:10):
I love dolphins.
Carmen Lezeth (28:11):
I'm sorry, joy, go ahead, sorry, go ahead, joy.
Joy Gouge (28:14):
I'm going to try to do that next year, yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (28:17):
Cynthia, what are you planning to do it?
No idea.
Do you like swimming in theocean?
Cynthia Ruiz (28:26):
No, so do I?
No, but it wouldn't be in theocean, it would be like in a
tank, like you know how, likethey have like in Vegas, how
they have like a whole dolphinshow.
You can actually swim with themin the tank In Vegas.
Carmen Lezeth (28:43):
Okay, wow, you just ruined the thought.
I would think you were doing itin the ocean.
Cynthia Ruiz (28:51):
No, not the ocean.
Andrea Nunez (28:52):
No, they don't have the trained dolphins in the
ocean.
You can't just jump in and swimwith them, right?
They won't come near you, Iwould imagine.
Joy Gouge (29:00):
Actually they can.
Yeah, they can.
Cynthia Ruiz (29:04):
Yeah, I'd be too scared of sharks coming to try
to eat them and eat me.
I don't know.
Carmen Lezeth (29:08):
Okay, I'll tell you.
When I used to go kayaking inthe mornings in Malibu, we would
all go kayaking at like six inthe morning.
It would be so cool to see thedolphins, you know what I mean,
and it'd be.
I was surrounded by a lot oftriathletes and I was like
scared out of my mind because Irespect and love the beach.
Everyone knows I live by thebeach and I do.
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But being in the water isyou're never gonna see me wanna
do that.
So that was a lot for me.
But we would see the dolphinsyou know what I mean In the
morning with the surfers, whichis pretty cool, like when
they're like alongside them orwhatever.
Andrea Nunez (29:41):
But yeah, and they're like jumping over the
waves.
I've seen that.
Carmen Lezeth (29:45):
Yeah, they're just so beautiful and elegant.
But of course I was like thatlooked like a shark, that didn't
look like no dolphin and they'dbe like oh my God, Carmen, I'm
like it just looks like a shark,Like I see the fian, Isn't the
fian like it should?
I'd be like Carmen, Like youcan't take the city out of the
girl, right?
No matter where you go.
You only be so.
Andrea Nunez (30:03):
What is it?
I wanna watch them.
Cynthia, what is it Like?
Why do you wanna swim with thedolphins?
What is it about?
Cynthia Ruiz (30:09):
Oh, I love dolphins I've always loved
dolphins.
I just think they're so prettyand so smart and just I love
them.
Carmen Lezeth (30:17):
Yeah, the ones in Vegas in a pool.
Okay, maybe SeaWorld.
How about that?
Cynthia Ruiz (30:22):
I don't know.
Carmen Lezeth (30:23):
We thought it was a red blue.
Yeah, I would prefer that.
I'm like I'm the biggest one.
Carmen's okay in your SeaWorldtrip, but not your biggest
SeaWorld trip because they'reprobably at least trying to help
the dolphins, but do they evenhave dolphins in Vegas anymore.
Andrea Nunez (30:38):
I don't think they do.
No, they don't.
Kate.
We've had everything in Vegas.
Carmen, oh yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (30:44):
The only thing I wanna see in Vegas is you two in
the sphere, or whatever it'scalled.
That's all I wanna see, but I'mwaiting for those tickets from
someone who might be watchingthe show.
No, it's not.
Hello, hello.
Okay, rick, what about youSwimming with sharks?
Maybe?
Rick Costa (31:03):
I also actually like dolphins a lot because they're
so flipping, smart, butcontrolled environment.
I ain't going in the middle ofthe ocean with no dolphins.
Cynthia Ruiz (31:11):
No, thank you, no, thank you.
Rick Costa (31:13):
No, sorry, no, ma'am , no, no, no, yeah, water and me
?
No, thank you.
No, unless it's in the shower,no, which is another reason why
I'd amuse me.
Parks, if they have a waterpark.
No, I just know, even thoughthat's controlled.
But still, me getting suddenlywet anybody that knows me just
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ticks me off, ruins my day,really makes me mad.
Don't make me go out in thestorm and rain.
I will be so pissed.
Don't let gang suddenly wet.
I'll do rollercoasters, I'll doanything upside down, flip me
up anywhere you want to, butdon't put me out of water ride.
No, sir.
Andrea Nunez (31:51):
Oh my gosh, the wicked witch on Wizard of Oz.
You're like yeah.
Rick Costa (31:55):
Exactly, Exactly, but the last time they had I
forgot what it's called, butit's like a pool but they have
these huge waves that they makein the pool, of the wave pool,
yeah.
And actually went into that andthey were like Rick, I can't
believe you're in here and I'mlike I know.
Cynthia Ruiz (32:11):
I'm like I tried something.
I'm actually scared of that.
I don't go up to my waist inthe wave pool.
Rick Costa (32:17):
Yeah, I went to the wave pool.
Carmen Lezeth (32:18):
I don't know what that is.
Cynthia Ruiz (32:20):
So it's this really big pool area and every
so often there's a wave thatstarts at the end and it starts
off huge and everybody alwayswants to go and just jump the
waves and it's yeah, it's a kindof dangerous.
Carmen Lezeth (32:35):
The main impact would wave in a pool.
Yes, yeah.
Rick Costa (32:38):
But it's like huge, so you're like bobbing up and
down as the water.
Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (32:44):
But it's in a pool.
Rick Costa (32:45):
It's huge, right yeah.
Andrea Nunez (32:46):
Not the ocean.
Joy Gouge (32:48):
None of that.
Andrea Nunez (32:49):
It's like to give you the feeling of being at the
beach without the sand.
Yeah, yeah.
Rick Costa (32:57):
Hand gliding.
I would try that, nope.
Carmen Lezeth (33:00):
I would try that.
Too long, too slow.
Andrea Nunez (33:02):
See, that's funny.
Our things are in the air andthe sea, or the water, I guess,
maybe not the sea.
Carmen Lezeth (33:09):
Yeah, and Jared, would you do the swimming with
dolphins Hell?
Andrea Nunez (33:12):
no, I don't like fish.
I don't even want to go to thesea.
Rick Costa (33:16):
They're not fish, they're mammals.
Andrea Nunez (33:18):
Whatever.
I don't like fish, I will swimin the ocean.
I don't mind that, but I won'tgo too far out, but I don't want
to be touching water.
Carmen Lezeth (33:31):
Do you cook fish?
I've never known you cook fish.
No I love that about you.
Andrea Nunez (33:39):
I will eat it at a restaurant some, not all, but I
don't want the smell of it inmy house and I just think it's,
I don't know, they creep me out.
Carmen Lezeth (33:47):
Melanie said I'd rather do a water ride than a
roller coaster.
Rick Costa (33:52):
She's opposite, she's opposite.
Andrea Nunez (33:54):
You guys don't want to be upset.
Rick Costa (33:56):
I love a roller coaster.
Carmen Lezeth (33:58):
Roller coaster or water ride Joy.
Joy Gouge (34:02):
Oh god those.
Andrea Nunez (34:06):
You're just one here, I love roller coasters,
love them.
Carmen Lezeth (34:14):
You know what I was going to say.
The ones where you have theharness that comes over your
head and, like those, make meclaustrophobic.
And you know, most of them arethat now, like I'm used to the
old rickety ones where we wereall going to fall out Remember
we were going to have to do alittle tiny bar.
Rick Costa (34:31):
Just a bar and that's it 80s kids.
Carmen Lezeth (34:35):
we really did not .
We were not very well protected.
Rick Costa (34:42):
And yet we survived.
Carmen Lezeth (34:43):
And yet we survived.
We didn't have to eat else.
Remember that.
Rick Costa (34:47):
Oh yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (34:49):
OK, wait, Do you remember?
Ok, I don't know about you guys, but when I was growing up,
you'd walk into somebody's houseand everybody was smoking.
They'd talk to you and they'dbe like smoke in your face.
Now, if somebody's smoking amile from it and I do this all
the time because I'm ex-smokerI'm like, oh, I'm going to get
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cancer.
It's horrible, You're leavingme 80s kids.
We didn't really.
We really had it different.
Oh yeah, You're a feral.
What did you say?
I said we were feral.
I don't know what feral means.
Andrea Nunez (35:27):
What does that mean?
Like a wild cat, you know whatI mean.
They say a feral cat.
You're just out on your owntrying to survive.
Carmen Lezeth (35:38):
But you know what , I don't ever remember seeing
it that way, but when you lookback you realize you really were
yeah Well, you don't see itthat way, because that's just
your life.
Andrea Nunez (35:48):
When you look back and you're like, oh, what was
the reason you never knowwriting our bikes until midnight
, I don't know.
Carmen Lezeth (35:57):
We used to play.
This is how I knew we were outlate at night.
We used to play somethingcalled flashlight tag, which
means it had to be dark out.
We all had flashlights and it'dbe the same thing.
But then you would have to gofind people, You'd have to put
the beam of light on them andthen they'd be it and everybody
would be on rooftops under cars.
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We'd be climbing trees and I'mlike, oh my god, if any of the
kids in my life would do thatnow, I'd be like, are you crazy?
But it would be 9, 10 o'clockat night.
Anthony just said every 80s kideither stood up in the front of
their mother and father's caror rode jammed pack in the back
of the station wagon.
Cynthia Ruiz (36:42):
The station wagon, yes, the station wagon Head of
the truck right.
Rick Costa (36:46):
Dangle in my feet at the back of the car.
Head of the truck.
Carmen Lezeth (36:48):
Oh, come on Right on the pickup truck, what other
crazy 80s things do youremember that you would
especially the parents in theroom and the God grandparents I
think that's all of you exceptme right that we do that you
wouldn't let your kids do oryour nieces and nephews do.
Rick Costa (37:06):
What was that thing that spun around?
And you just held on to it fordear life.
And they spin like crazy, likethe playground.
Cynthia Ruiz (37:14):
I don't think they would fly those anymore.
Rick Costa (37:16):
They don't fly?
Cynthia Ruiz (37:17):
I wouldn't fly today.
Carmen Lezeth (37:18):
Well, I'm shocked that they have those cushion
things at the playgrounds.
You know, when you walk on thefloor of a playground, it's like
a gymnastics floor, it's allcushion.
Cynthia Ruiz (37:26):
Yeah, you like bounce.
Carmen Lezeth (37:28):
I'm like what the hell is this?
And then, like the bottom waslike it's so that the kids don't
hurt themselves.
Rick Costa (37:34):
I'm like and now they don't want metal slides,
they want plastic.
So you don't burn your butt, Iguess, or whatever.
Carmen Lezeth (37:40):
Ooh I used to have them skin burns when you
wore the cords, but isn't that?
How Look?
I'm not saying kids should behurt, but isn't that part of
learning?
Andrea Nunez (37:50):
Yes, well, I've talked about this a million
times with you, carmen just likethe inability of kids today are
not able to make decisions forthemselves.
They have like almost zeroindependence, and I actually
read this whole study about howthat could be, in addition to
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certain other things happeningnowadays, part of what leads to
like these skyrocketingdepression and things like that,
and just the ways people thinkabout kids now, how they're, the
way they are in the workplace,like they just we were out
making decisions for ourselveswhat we wanted to eat, when we
wanted to eat, who we wanted tohang out with, when we wanted to
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leave, what we wanted to play.
I mean, we were making all ofthose decisions for ourselves at
a very young age and kids nowdo not even have an opportunity
to do something like that.
Cynthia Ruiz (38:44):
But the difference is, I think back then, even
though we made all thosedecisions, we still had respect
for our elders.
These kids nowadays can't makea decision and have no respect
for their elders.
Joy Gouge (38:56):
Exactly.
Go ahead, joy, explain no,you're right.
You're right, I mean, granted,I'll have in the number one,
most crime written area inAmerica.
We got that title and you seeit every day in Memphis about
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there's no respect.
Cynthia Ruiz (39:18):
None.
Joy Gouge (39:19):
Wow.
No respect for themselves, norespect for the elderly, nothing
.
Carmen Lezeth (39:25):
Yeah, the whole elderly thing is weird to me.
Let me just answer somethingMelanie just wrote.
Melanie said we would playflashlight tag in a fenced-in
yard.
We didn't have a yard, but Ihear you, I got you and yeah, it
was a merry-go-round at theplayground.
That's exactly what it was,Melanie.
I think that's what it wascalled.
Rick Costa (39:44):
The world was our yard.
Andrea Nunez (39:48):
Her yard was a football block.
Carmen Lezeth (39:50):
I'm shocked by the lack of respect for the
elders, but I will admit that Imade a mistake with one of my
clients.
So one of my clients isoriginally from Texas.
I handle a lot of propertiesthat they own in Texas or
whatever, and one of the thingsthat's really great about her is
that the way she raises herkids is they have to say yes,
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ma'am, no ma'am, and it's reallyrefreshing.
I'll just be honest, it's weird.
When I first met them and Iwalked into the house and they
call me Ms Carmen and they sayyes, ma'am, no ma'am or whatever
.
And the first time one of thekids said it to me I said oh,
you don't have to say ma'am.
And my client came running overno, he does.
(40:33):
It was really interestingbecause here I was kind of
poo-pooing the whole ma'am thema'am thing because I feel old
if somebody says that.
And then what my client told mewas like I'm from down south,
my kids will always berespectful, they will always say
that, and it's so refreshingand now I realize that's
actually an honor, like I lovewhat they call me Ms Carmen and
(40:56):
I get it.
I think there's also somethingto it that I'm not saying that
kids are at fault for notrespecting.
I think their parents are notteaching them that.
But we also kind of push awaythis thing about becoming elders
right, like this is weird thing, like we all have to be cool
and hip I'm doing air quotes,hip or whatever and not fall
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into that category.
So I feel bad, cause I thinkthis generation doesn't get to
make those decisions becauseagain, not a parent, but I'm
gonna throw this out therethey're sheltered from day one.
You don't let them go outsideand play.
You create play dates.
You don't let them take chances.
Or I had someone the other dayon TikTok make a comment about
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what do you mean?
You used to drink out of thehose.
I'm like what are you confusedby?
You would get in the middle ofit.
Somebody had a hose and you'dbe thirsty, you'd drink some
water.
They were like oh no, I wouldnever, I would never.
We were thirsty, we drank out ofthe hose, somebody's you know
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garden or whatever, and I saythat loosely in the streets of
Boston, but you know what I mean.
I'm not blaming parents.
I think it's just the world welive in and that's why I think
kids gravitate towards theinternet so much, cause that's
kind of their playground.
And it leads me to the nextquestion I had, which I told you
(42:27):
all.
I wrote a blog post this pastweek.
I don't know if y'all had achance to read it, but I should
probably tell people.
So I have two websites allabout the joys.
One website which is just kindof our clips and is more of a
place where I just kind of putstuff that's happening.
But for over 20 years I've hadmy own website, which is
carmenlesetcom or carmenswarscom, and every week I post a blog.
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That's probably a little bit,as I was called, spicier,
spicier and then what you hearhere.
But one of the things I talkedabout in that blog post was I
wonder if the disconnect betweenmy generation which I think is
everyone in this room Gen X andmaybe millennials and Gen Z, is
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this different idea of how weuse the internet Like to me.
In the blog post I wrote, theinternet is just a tool.
It's not my everyday life.
I can live without the internet.
It is just something I use todo things.
It's kind of like to me, nodifferent than a microwave or a
television set.
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It's just another thing in thetoolbox that I own.
But my question was is itpossible that millennials and
Gen Z that other generations theinternet is there every day.
It's them walking outside.
It's like us walking outside,growing up and hanging out For
them.
This is their reality and maybethat's where the disconnect is.
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I'm just asking.
Rick Costa (43:58):
Like little kids can't even fathom that there
didn't used to be an internetLike what you had.
No internet Like it's barbaricor something.
Andrea Nunez (44:07):
Yeah, not even little kids.
I mean people in their 20s mayhave no experience of life
without the internet or evensocial media really in their
memory.
Cynthia Ruiz (44:20):
So I think that makes a lot of sense that
they're just made out of it andthey're gonna allow that social
skill of actually meetingsomeone talking to them.
Everything is just on thecomputer, on their phones.
Carmen Lezeth (44:36):
Joy, what do you think about it?
Joy Gouge (44:38):
No, I agree, because there's no personal skills,
there's no true interaction andfor a lot of times, when there's
interaction between young kids,it's either bullying, it's
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either cyber stalking it's crazy, and I'm talking about like
fifth and sixth grade kids.
Yeah, and it's sad.
It really is sad, because whenyou see a lot of kids and not
all kids are like this pleasenot trying to label all kids as
(45:20):
like but in even like 20somethings, they don't know how
to interact with people.
Yeah, you know, they just don'tand it's sad.
Carmen Lezeth (45:31):
Well, I think that had a lot to do with.
I'm just gonna shout out andsay that Melanie said that she
used to drink from the sink aswell as the hose.
What do you mean?
The sink?
Oh, we would just drink waterfrom the sink.
Rick Costa (45:43):
Yeah, because today people are like ew.
Carmen Lezeth (45:45):
Oh yeah, that's right.
I didn't think about that.
That's right.
Andrea Nunez (45:48):
Nobody drinks from the sink.
Well, nobody drinks, they'resink water maybe it's a toilet
water.
You know what I'm talking about.
Carmen Lezeth (45:54):
It's not the water.
Right here.
I was thinking that maybe, youknow, I think that might be a
lot of the disconnect between myunderstanding like people are
having full on relationships,romantic relationship, they have
best friends they've never met,I you know, up until I started
thinking about it, especiallyfrom what happened last week on
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the show.
That's why I started thinkingabout this and I was just
completely thrown by thisconcept that I'm best friends
with somebody or that I'msupposed to be something with
somebody, with people I've nevereven met or had any type of
relationship with.
And and Andrea, you and I haddinner and we were that's kind
of where, this kind of squaredrug having this conversation
(46:36):
with you, and I wonder if it'seven fair Like it's probably not
fair to tell people go meetpeople in person Cause they, for
them, that's their world, theirworld is actually getting up
every day and getting online andthat's them going outside.
Does that make sense?
That's how.
Andrea Nunez (46:58):
I'm saying it, yeah, yeah, that's not the world
they grew up in, right, evenwhat I was talking about, like
they didn't grow up in a worldwhere you go outside to play
with the neighborhood kids andyou know we can look at all of
the different reasons.
That almost doesn't matter atthis point, cause that's just
not what happened, mm-hmm Right.
Carmen Lezeth (47:18):
So but does that make us our situation better and
there's worse, like are welosing something with everything
they've gained?
Andrea Nunez (47:27):
I mean, maybe, maybe not.
Right Time will tell, I suppose.
But like it's just different,you know they have skills we
don't have.
Carmen Lezeth (47:36):
Exactly.
Well, that's the big one.
And let me just read whatAnthony just wrote.
He said is that US?
Andrea Nunez (47:44):
or us, us the net savvy and tech nerds.
All right, keep going.
Have it attributed to the waykids are?
When I was a kid, this was newand it was like revenge of the
nerds or war games.
We've made it the normal,making it a double-edged sword.
Yeah, oh, good point, it's areally good point.
Great movie war games by theway I could watch that not that
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long ago.
Carmen Lezeth (48:06):
Yeah that's a great movie, since we can talk
about movies.
Yeah, I think I'm excited.
Rick Costa (48:11):
I heard somebody say like if you want to punish your
kid, don't say go to your room,just turn off your router.
Cynthia Ruiz (48:18):
Yeah, yeah turn off your router.
Carmen Lezeth (48:21):
I think there's something to this idea.
And then you know, look it, I'malways open to changing and
look it.
I'm not just talking about kids, we're talking about
30-year-olds.
So let's be very clear, we'retalking about millennials here.
That's what I'm.
I think kids I'm just going tobe straight up Gen Z kids like
my goddaughter, juliana, areactually in a lot of ways and
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Andrea, you can tell me,isabella is the same way, but
kind of just, there's a lot ofrejection of technology and
there's a lot of embracing ofwhat they think the 80s were
like right, like they all haveturntables.
They all think we lived in likefriends, like in big apartments
in New York and we all hung outat the car.
Now, in a lot of ways, she'snot wrong, you know what I mean
(49:06):
but I see a lot of rejection tolike she won't wear labels and,
rick, you and I were talkingabout this at one show Like we
were all about, like NikeJordash, to the point, and so I
really want to be clear.
I feel like there's a and it'snot all people like Joy, how you
said, it's not everyone, butI'm talking about older people
(49:28):
who are in the 30s and 40s whoare really kind of, maybe in
that mesh of being involved withthe internet in such a way that
I actually do think isunhealthy, right.
And yet I see what thebrilliance of.
I would have never met Joy orRick or Ted Hicks or Melanie or
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Anthony Davis if it wasn't forthe internet, right, like.
And when I say meet, I meanhaving these conversations and
just having the ability toconnect with people in other
countries.
And you know, I mean I have somany quote unquote friends.
I think about Nazim, who I sawon Facebook today, and you know
so they're a great benefit, butI wonder if there's more harm
(50:12):
being done because of the lackof ability to have an
interaction in person.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Andrea Nunez (50:21):
I mean, that's what we're designed for, right
Like humans want thatinteraction.
It's a very natural,animalistic thing.
Carmen Lezeth (50:29):
I mean, I really believe that, and so yeah, but
is that different if you do itonline versus in person?
Andrea Nunez (50:34):
Yeah, I do think it is.
So I do think something lost,you know.
Carmen Lezeth (50:39):
I'm going to argue with you.
I'm going to say what does itmatter if it's in person or not,
like I just?
I mean.
Andrea Nunez (50:45):
I really can't say like put my finger on it, but
like you and I can have ourphone.
You know, I'll just use us asan example.
Right, we can meet here onlineand we can have our phone calls,
but there's something differentabout, I would say, the way
both of us feel when we have achance to get actually together
in person.
Carmen Lezeth (51:06):
you know, Right, but we met before the interwebs
was a thing, right?
Well, I can't?
Andrea Nunez (51:12):
I mean, if that's the criteria, then I can speak
to it, because I don't know whatit's like to be here, right?
No, no, no.
Carmen Lezeth (51:18):
But that's kind of my point right?
My point is someone who's grownup with having the internet as
their way of having interactionson a regular basis.
Does that make theirrelationship less real?
Because they're never gonnameet another.
Andrea Nunez (51:33):
I'm not in their mind, I wouldn't think, but, as
you were saying in my mind,maybe it does right.
Maybe I'm judging, I have nevermet Rick.
Carmen Lezeth (51:46):
I've never met Joy.
Does that mean that myrelationship is less important
or less of substance because Ihaven't met them in person?
Is the question.
It's something I'm grapplingwith.
I think, it depends on eachperson.
So you're saying Joy is thebetter person, so that's a good
relationship, but Rick sucks.
(52:06):
So yeah, yeah.
Rick Costa (52:11):
I'm just kidding, In my Facebook memories today
there's this woman that she waskind of big on the Periscope
days and all that stuff too,Very motivational type
personality and everybody lovedher, whatever.
And so we talked, we liked eachother, whatever.
And then she goes.
You know what?
I'm gonna be in Massachusetts,but I'm gonna be in Connecticut
to airport because I'm going toBradley.
(52:32):
She goes.
You wanted me.
I was like heck, yeah, let's go, let's meet.
And so we did and I havepictures and everything.
We met up but like nothingchanged.
Like just because I met her inperson, it's still nothing
changed.
We're still like each other,the same, equally.
Nothing really changed justbecause I met her in person.
I'm just, that's the case withRick anyway.
Carmen Lezeth (52:51):
So you would say, based on that example possibly,
that whether it's in person ormeeting online, it's the same
thing.
Rick Costa (53:00):
It can be.
Carmen Lezeth (53:03):
Melanie says every generation has things that
the previous generation didn'thave.
Who wants to live inpre-industrial revolutionary
days?
This is what I'm talking about,melanie keeping that bar up,
girl.
That's incredible.
It's a great point.
It's a great point.
Rick Costa (53:20):
And something that would be interesting to talk
about maybe too one day is howmuch would our lives, each of us
, be upended and thrown upsidedown if suddenly something
happened in the world and therewas no internet?
Andrea Nunez (53:32):
I said I think about that all the time In a bad
way.
Carmen Lezeth (53:35):
I think that would be a great thing.
Andrea Nunez (53:38):
I do too, but it would be a rough couple of weeks
.
Rick Costa (53:43):
For the kids especially.
Carmen Lezeth (53:44):
My kids would be trust Parents of kids.
Michael just said I believe youcan have a connection with
someone on the net.
Love frequencies can be feltfrom great distances.
That's fair enough.
I look at.
I'm gonna start wrapping thisup because I did talk to Ted and
his show is gonna.
He's like I said we'll get offso he can have a show at 7.15 or
(54:07):
whatever.
But here's the thing.
I'm a little old school.
I really believe there issomething different to meeting
someone in person.
I am gonna try to be more opento the idea that some people for
me it's also the romanticrelationship thing that's
(54:27):
killing me.
Maybe that's a more detailedconversation to have Can you
have a romantic relationshipwith someone who you've never
met?
And that's kind of like that.
Some people believe that theycan.
I guess so, but that's the onethat's harder for me.
Do I think Joy and Rick wouldstill be good friends if I met
(54:48):
them in person?
Of course I don't think thatwould not be, because I feel
like I'm getting to know that.
But could I meet someone onlineLike to me?
Okay, this is what I said todayto somebody I was talking on
the phone.
I said I have always been inlove with, let's say, indiana
Jones.
Right, because that's you andeverybody knows I.
Indiana Jones, that's my man,right there, that's my man.
(55:08):
You know what I mean.
The actor is 80 something yearsold today.
You know what I mean.
Like, the reality of who he isis not the character he portrays
to be.
Do you see what I'm saying?
Joy Gouge (55:22):
Like to me when I think of me and to show catfish.
Exactly, show catfish.
Cynthia Ruiz (55:29):
Oh, so catfish is basically people who have met
other people online and theyso-called have fallen in love
with them, and the other personon the other line is not who
they really are.
Carmen Lezeth (55:40):
Oh yeah, that's a scam.
That's a scam.
Yeah, Mike said.
Many people meet on the net andend up getting met.
Yeah, I don't have a problemwith that, but they actually
meet each other.
What we're talking about whenyou've never met anyone, Michael
.
I totally hear you, Anthony.
The internet has helped peoplemeet that they would have never
met in real life.
But if all of this were to bedestroyed, it would throw us
(56:02):
back into the era of the 1950sand maybe even now, Absolutely.
And let me be clear what I'mtalking about.
I think the internet as a toolto meet new people is brilliant.
I'm not against.
I love social media, I love theinternet and I love that I've
met all these people.
But eventually I would think Iwould meet people in person,
(56:22):
especially if I'm in love withthem, Right, If I'm having a
romance.
That's where it gets a littleweird for me, and I hope to
someday meet.
Well, Rick and I are going toPortugal.
He said it once.
I'm holding him to it.
Look at, he's like what?
Rick Costa (56:42):
Yeah, it's right on my passport.
Carmen Lezeth (56:46):
Well, look, it's something to think about.
I really appreciate it.
The last thing I want to talkabout we have a few minutes, and
this is really to two people,so I'm going to start with Rick
and then I'm going to go withAndrea, and then I'm going to go
with Joy and then I'm going togo with Cynthia.
When is it appropriate to putup a Christmas tree, if that is
your thing?
Cynthia Ruiz (57:07):
OK.
Carmen Lezeth (57:07):
Rick, why don't you start us off baby?
Rick Costa (57:11):
I mean, it's definitely an individual thing.
Everybody's different about it.
Some people have an attitude ofI can listen to Christmas music
all year round, and otherpeople are like, no, it's just
during the Christmas season.
Me, I feel like wait till weget past Thanksgiving and then
go crazy.
Before that I'm like it's alittle bit early, but you do you
.
Joy Gouge (57:32):
Andrea your thoughts.
Andrea Nunez (57:35):
After Thanksgiving for sure, without a doubt for
me, and I would even leantowards maybe like get into
December.
Really that's interesting Likea beat yeah yeah, like December.
Have it be an actual separateholiday OK.
I hear you Living, take a beatChristmas.
Ok, go ahead, joy.
Rick Costa (58:00):
All right, sorry, and you're pointing perfectly at
it.
Great job, joanie.
There's the answer, no wordsnecessary.
Joy Gouge (58:17):
How long is this going?
Carmen Lezeth (58:18):
to take.
Ok, we know, we got to get youback, we got to get you walking.
Joy Gouge (58:23):
She's going to show us how Go ahead you got to bring
it.
I'm still there, right, ok,wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait, wait, wait, wait, because it's
too high up.
Carmen Lezeth (58:33):
We're looking at the ceiling a little bit more.
Ok, good, now go around theroom.
Joy Gouge (58:37):
so we can oh that actually looks pretty though OK
here's my little one.
I'm not finished with yet.
Carmen Lezeth (58:42):
I've got all this .
Oh my gosh, you got the garlandup.
Ok, bring it down again.
We can't really see.
We're seeing the ceiling.
Ok, got it.
Wow, girl, when am I present?
Joy Gouge (58:51):
You have Joy Right now.
Just take it on.
I've got one little one.
How?
Andrea Nunez (58:55):
many are you going to have by the end of this
decorating situation?
I'm not sure.
Carmen Lezeth (59:03):
So cute Is my present there.
It's a big.
I see you didn't let us see thebottom of the tree because I
was going to put the car in myplace.
Rick Costa (59:13):
She didn't wrap it yet.
Cynthia Ruiz (59:14):
It's not really feeling me and Joy are on the
same page.
Carmen Lezeth (59:18):
I thought I went the way I went, ok, but I think
Joy has you be.
But go ahead, cynthia, why?
Rick Costa (59:23):
aren't you, cynthia, about to turn her phone around?
Carmen Lezeth (59:27):
That's OK.
You did it good.
It's perfect, cynthia.
Cynthia Ruiz (59:30):
So usually November 1st, I put up my tree
right after Thanksgiving.
I didn't do it this timebecause last weekend I was sick,
so it's going to go up thisweekend.
Andrea Nunez (59:43):
Oh goodness, Are you like it's so?
Cynthia Ruiz (59:46):
I'm so itching to put it up.
Carmen Lezeth (59:48):
I mean, I put that question on here because I
saw Joy post it on Facebook.
I was like this is the.
I loved it.
I loved it.
It was so good.
Oh, you're in there, you'reinto it, you know what.
Here's the thing.
I was going to tell you guyswhat my theory is, and I don't
(01:00:09):
think it's a bad thing.
I think the thing aboutChristmas, whether you are
religious or not and I can saypretty easily with Andrea and
myself hey, ted, I'm a word,we're jumping off on time the
day after Halloween, but itneeds to be taken down before
that's what Ted just said in thecomments.
(01:00:30):
I think the reason why you knowpeople like Christmas is
because of joy, and I don't meanmy friend Joy, I mean because
it elicits happiness and joy andit's like we crave that so much
.
But I think it's actually a sadthing.
Right, we have to put upChristmas and I'm not saying we
(01:00:51):
have to, but I think that's whatit is and it's getting earlier
and earlier every year.
So I want to find joy somehowin Halloween or in like fourth
of July or something.
Well, I'm lucky because I havea friend who was born on the
fourth of July, so we can havejoy on his birthday.
It's actually Joe Lava who wehad on the show his birthday on
(01:01:13):
July 4th.
Let me see.
Anthony just said we have arule about the Christmas tree in
our house.
We put it up between December10th to December 16th.
I think that's normal baby,because my brother's birthday is
on December 15th.
To take it down then take itdown is always on January 2nd or
3rd.
Yeah, having a birthday duringthat time period makes you have
(01:01:34):
to change the game a bit.
Could it be all about the joyand Tony is trying to promote
the show, but?
But so I'm going to close thisoff a little bit and move us
through and move on to makingsure we go check out Ted's show.
(01:01:54):
Thank you everyone For stopping.
Can I just say no, no, no.
Cynthia Ruiz (01:02:00):
OK, I'm so bummed that I can't see joy.
I want to see all her Christmasstuff.
You can see it.
Rick Costa (01:02:11):
Oh man.
Carmen Lezeth (01:02:12):
Right, you cannot see joy.
You still can't see her.
All you see is a.
Rick Costa (01:02:18):
Oh, I bet, when you open Joyce door, a stereo kick
sign.
All I want, a lot for.
Cynthia Ruiz (01:02:22):
Christmas.
Andrea Nunez (01:02:25):
That's your doorbell.
Carmen Lezeth (01:02:27):
I was good you brought it back.
I forgot about that whole thingat the beginning.
But, yeah, you haven't beenable to enjoy.
But you know, until the veryend you'll be able to go watch
the replay, you'll be able tosee her.
But her Christmas stuff lookscool but she ain't even because
what she she doesn't realize.
We all noticed, right, she, shepanned the camera and we can
see that she started.
She started to put some otherstuff up like this, whatever.
(01:02:51):
I saw that she got that placehooked up.
So we'll see you again nexttime, joy, when you have it all
full on.
Joy Gouge (01:02:58):
Cynthia frame me on Facebook.
Cynthia Ruiz (01:03:02):
OK.
Carmen Lezeth (01:03:02):
I will yeah you guys, oh God, yeah, the
Christmas buddies Great, buteveryone, it was great to have
you here.
Thank you so much.
I'm going to do a couple ofshout outs again.
Linkedin oh my God, we are likefour hundred and eleven people
now.
I know people don't thinkthat's a big deal, but to me
(01:03:22):
it's huge.
And I don't know what happenedthe other day, but we got a
whole bunch of new followers onthe podcast.
Rick Costa (01:03:29):
Sassam Carmen came out.
Carmen Lezeth (01:03:33):
But anyway, thank you to everyone and I
appreciate everyone's kindnessand uplifting spirits about my
family on the East Coast.
I did go home for anunfortunate passing of one of
our sisters, one of our favoritepeople, who died unexpectedly.
So thank you for everyone whoreached out and, yeah, everyone,
we'll see you again next weekand remember, it's all about the
joy.
Bye everyone.
(01:03:55):
Thank you, thanks for stoppingby.
All about the joy.
Be better and stay beautifulfolks.
Have a sweet day.
Hey everyone, Welcome to All About the Joy.
I'm so glad to be here.
I'm sorry I'm mid laughingbecause Cynthia cannot see one
of us on screen.
Andrea Nunez (00:13):
You have to guess.
Which one You'll have to guess,I can't tell you.
Carmen Lezeth (00:21):
I don't know, can you see her now?
No, oh well, we all know it'sRick.
Andrea Nunez (00:28):
I'll see.
If there were people in thelive stream we could have said
we're not going to say until theend of the show.
Carmen Lezeth (00:36):
We're going to keep it as a mystery.
I don't even know what to doabout it.
I think we're going to justhave to roll with it.
Cynthia, Like Andrea said, ayou problem Just going to have
to use your imagination, Cynthia.
Yeah, but wait, here's thething.
People will have to guess whoit is.
You can't see.
Cynthia Ruiz (01:01):
I can hear everybody.
Carmen Lezeth (01:05):
Anyway, let me welcome everyone to this show.
Of course, cynthia is here withus with her fabulous blowed out
hairdo Fabulous, lookingWonderful.
Yes, I wanted to also give ashout out to Joy.
Thank you for joining us andyou're looking perfect and
fabulous.
Say hello to everyone, girl.
Hello everybody.
Andrea, so glad you're here.
(01:27):
You know I got much love foryou.
So happy to see you and yourhair looks great too.
All the ladies looking fabulous, of course, and Rick Costa Got
you baby.
How you doing.
Rick Costa (01:37):
What's up.
Carmen Lezeth (01:38):
What's up?
So welcome.
I first want to start with afew announcements that everybody
knows I'm really really excitedabout, and the SAG After Strike
is over, yay.
So it's a little tentative,although everyone has come out.
Fran Dresser just sent, who isthe president of SAG After, sent
(02:01):
everyone an email.
We've been updated on a prettydaily basis from SAG After.
They've been amazing as anegotiating committee but also
just keeping us all informed,and it's going to be ratified
Hopefully on Friday.
It's just so kind of exciting.
They really, from what we know,we haven't had the ability to
read it yet, but we got what wewanted.
(02:23):
So, for the most part, I'm surethere's a lot of negotiation,
but the AI part was a really bigone.
So, 118 days.
Shout out to all the actorsthat were on the picket lines,
also to IOTC, all the otherunions, wga.
I also want to give a shout outto all the other people who are
impacted.
Again, I cannot stress enoughthis impacted, you know, all the
(02:48):
people who work in the crewscaterers, makeup artists, people
who do hair and costume design,editors.
It impacted restaurants,location scouts.
This didn't just impact actors,it impacted so many people.
So thank you for everyone whostood with the union and I'm
just so excited and everyone'sgoing to get back to work.
(03:10):
So, yay, and Rick, you and Ican have our show that we want
to just talk about Stargate.
Rick Costa (03:19):
Finally.
Carmen Lezeth (03:20):
Movies now and television, and we've been
really trying to not I've beentrying to not do it.
It has slipped a few times withguests or with people, but Rick
, let it out, let it out, can'twait, yeah, so I just wanted to
give that announcement.
The other thing I wanted tojust throw out there I already
(03:40):
mentioned Fran Drusher, but Ijust want to say I know people
know her from the nanny, but Iam just I love amazing, fabulous
people, and who would havethought the actress from the
nanny would have become thepowerhouse president of SAG
AFTRA and then lead us throughthis?
I just find that I just lovefabulous, amazing people who
(04:03):
stick to their guns and do ittheir way with their style, so I
wanted to give a shout out toher.
You know, just amazing.
Okay, I just want to see howyou guys are doing first before
we go into our next thing.
How are you guys doing, cynthia?
How was your week so far?
(04:25):
Yeah and you can't see one of us.
So glad you could hear us.
That was good.
(04:46):
I didn't know that Okay it hasbeen given.
Do you want to share whathappened this week?
That's just, you don't have to.
Cynthia Ruiz (04:58):
It's just a stressful week.
You know the hospital is crazyand everyone coming in with
COVID and flu oh yeah, numbersare going back up.
It's been a little crazy atwork.
Carmen Lezeth (05:10):
I mean, I mean, is it numbers coming back up to
like we might be afraid?
Again or it's just this isgoing to be the new normal in
the fall, or something.
Cynthia Ruiz (05:19):
It's going to be the new normal.
It's definitely going to be thenew normal, but I mean they're
not making the mass mandatoryright now, so the numbers aren't
that crazy, which is good, butI mean it's going to be just
like the flu.
Every year you're going to haveto, you know, just be
precocious.
Carmen Lezeth (05:37):
I just went and got another COVID shot.
Like I'm kind of, oh, I got theCOVID and the flu shot just two
days ago.
I'm kind of over it, I have totell you, but I'm going to do it
.
Yeah, joy, how is your week?
How are you doing anythingwonderful, joyous or miserable,
like Cynthia?
Joy Gouge (05:57):
No, so good, Just getting ready, packing, getting
ready to fly out to EastTennessee again on Saturday.
So why are we going toTennessee?
Carmen Lezeth (06:08):
We why?
Joy Gouge (06:09):
are we going?
Carmen Lezeth (06:09):
to.
Cynthia Ruiz (06:09):
Tennessee.
Joy Gouge (06:12):
Well, I'm going back to East Tennessee to visit my
family.
Oh, are you there for theholidays?
Or like early and just goingfor a week this time, and then I
will.
We'll be back for Thanksgivinghere in Memphis and then I'm
flying back the first week ofDecember.
Carmen Lezeth (06:32):
Oh, okay, traveling, you're always
traveling, by the way.
That's what I noticed.
Yeah, traveling Queen over here.
Rick Costa (06:40):
Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (06:41):
Okay, cool, but you had a great week.
Great or good week, it was good.
It was good.
Good car that don't sound likeit was good.
But okay, we don't know what,that we don't go.
Andrea, I already know some ofskip you for now.
We're going to do it later,because we already I already
know that's gonna be aconversation.
Rick Costa (07:03):
It was okay.
Work was weird because they'restill moving buildings and they
still haven't finished.
I don't know who's where whatbuilding y'all are in and I'm
like people call can I talk to?
I don't know where he's atright now.
So works been very weird andthey haven't even shipped most
stuff that should be shipped bynow.
But anyway, and there was somebacklash from last week that I
(07:25):
did not discuss with you becauseI didn't want you to get upset
about it, but I got thrown intothe show.
Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (07:32):
I got enough backlash, but I got some good
stuff to.
I got good backlash.
Rick Costa (07:37):
So the funny thing to me was the funny thing to me
was so said person was onanother person's broadcasts who
used to be mortal enemies, nowthey're best my besties with
their clothes and like mindblown.
And then the other one said oh,rick Costa, oh I, he's a fraud.
I talked to him, to him onabsent.
(08:00):
I proved he was a fraud.
I'm like I never even talked toyou in my life.
What are you talking about?
Carmen Lezeth (08:05):
Yeah, crazy and I think that's about as much as
we gonna give that issue.
Yeah, I'm done on the show, butyou know what it's like.
Here's the good news.
I got, first of all, some ofthe most amazing Compliments.
I got so many more people whoare following the podcast to
like.
Some of my old school friendswere like finally, the real
(08:28):
Carmen came out.
Rick Costa (08:29):
Sassy Carmen is back .
Carmen Lezeth (08:32):
Somebody was like we like this Carmen better than
the polished Carmen.
One of my clients who wascrying Melanie's like yay,
tony's like damn.
One of my clients was watchingthis show.
(08:55):
I was cracking up because hetalked about it.
He was like you know what?
That's how you have to rallythe troops here.
I want you to swear, but I got.
(09:18):
I Thought it was really goodand I think I think one of the
things that's really interestingabout life is Again and I'm not
trying to keep saying this, butwhen you can actually find the
joy in things.
You know, and what I realized.
I was speaking to someone todaywho watched the show, who said
(09:40):
one of the things that I lovedabout watching you is that we're
so used to seeing the polishedCarmen and not that we want to
see that person all the time,but it was nice to see that
other side of you, you know, andand I was like I can't believe
you saying this to me, you know-that, that's, that's the car.
Cynthia Ruiz (10:00):
And what with that picture you posted?
Carmen Lezeth (10:10):
Oh my god.
So yeah, I you know what I sayalways stay away from the
negativity, grab on to thepositivity and ignore what you
can.
Had a moment where I wasn'tgood at ignoring, but you know
that was also on my show, soalright, everyone buckle up,
andrea I.
Andrea Nunez (10:32):
Always stay away from the negativity.
I was like, okay, fine,everybody, crap week.
It's been really hard at somework stuff.
It's been happening since lastFriday.
I'm losing sleep, I got likeit's just been rough and I'm
(10:54):
trying to take care ofEverybody's feelings and
expectations, which is not.
You know, you can't reallydiscuss what happened or not.
Carmen Lezeth (11:04):
We cannot discuss .
I do know Andrea and I went outto dinner last week and we ate
and we talked, and so I I doknow what happened and I'm just
so sorry I'll put it in thisterms it's, it's always
difficult when you manage a teamof people and and you have to
keep lifting people up.
(11:25):
It's really hard, especiallywhen your clients upset or
whatever, and that's what I'llsay.
That kind of puts a littlebutton on it.
But so I feel for you and I'mjust sorry you're still going
through it and and yeah, alright, well, we wish you well.
Well, hopefully you'll have alittle bit of laughter today.
Rick Costa (11:41):
My joy right here if you're not up yourself but you
got to make everybody else,that's even harder.
Andrea Nunez (11:46):
Oh yeah, yeah, that's true.
Carmen Lezeth (11:49):
Well, how do you guys deal with that?
If you are not feeling greatbut you have to lift other
people up, how do you getyourself there?
That's actually an interestingquestion.
Rick Costa (11:59):
Fake it till, I make it.
Carmen Lezeth (12:03):
That's fair.
Fake it to you, make it Yep.
Cynthia Ruiz (12:06):
Cynthia, pretty much the same.
You show one side to your teamand then you can go to the
bathroom and cry your eyes outif you need to.
Andrea Nunez (12:14):
Oh, andrea um, I mean, yeah, a version of that,
for sure, you know you have toBe polished right, put on the
face and like, put that outthere for everybody.
But for me I have to havesomeone like you or somebody
else that I can then go and belike you know you got.
(12:34):
You have to have that outlet,you know joy.
Carmen Lezeth (12:37):
How do you deal with it?
Joy Gouge (12:38):
I'm the same way you know, because you just have to
compartmentalize it and Move onand focus on your team and not
focus on yourself, which is hard, yeah, it's really hard
sometimes.
Carmen Lezeth (12:52):
Yeah, I don't know if I do any of that.
I Don't know, I don't know whatyou do.
Well, I mean, I think that'swhy my client was so funny,
because he was just like I wantyou to swear more, like I'm not
gonna swear, but it's reallyhard for me to hide when I'm
disappointed in people, or youknow, look at, most of times
(13:14):
people call me to fire people or, you know, things are a
disaster.
That's when people want to hireme, right, and then I have the
maintenance clients that I keepon, but what ends up happening
is I never end up firing mostpeople because it's usually Not
their fault.
It's usually the person whohired me setting up unrealistic,
realistic expectations orwhatever it is.
And I think one of the thingsI'm really good at and I don't
(13:36):
mean this, to go back to lastweek's show, I don't have a
problem at confrontation andI've learned how to Look it, and
this is a stylistic thing.
This is not something Irecommend to anyone else,
because I've been burnt so manytimes too as I went through this
process.
I think we just all havedifferent styles, but when I'm
not feeling up or whatever, isprobably when I shine most.
(13:57):
And, andrea, I was telling youat dinner.
I was telling you at dinner theother night, like I think I
have been doing Oscar worthylike Performances in front of my
clients.
Just I feel like so many timesI'm like just acting through it
all.
So maybe that's how I handle it.
(14:18):
But I I don't have a problemtelling people exactly what I
think is.
I guess I Think you all saw aversion of that.
But just even in in regularlife, and when I'm tired, I tell
people I got time for this, I'mtired, let's talk about this
tomorrow at four o'clock.
That's my opening on mycalendar, like and I'm very
blunt about it, you know or I'lltell people to stop texting me,
(14:41):
like I told one team the otherday no more texting me after six
.
We're just not, I'm notanswering it, you're all on
silent.
So if there's an emergencycalled a police, fire department
or your boss, you know, to me,no art, don't bother me, I'm not
paying that much.
Andrea Nunez (15:03):
Yeah, slow and deliberate and make sure that
whatever I say is what Iactually want to say.
So I try to really take a beatand Let my emotions calm down so
that I can deal with thesituation in the way that I
actually want to, versus beinglike super reactive.
Carmen Lezeth (15:24):
I'm super reactive, yeah, super no, but
even that work, I just yeah, Idon't.
It's not that I don't care, IThink there's.
I mean, I know what you'resaying, you know, yeah, I
totally get that, but I all thisis, it's just a different style
.
I think I also really do trustmy initial gut and emotional
(15:48):
instinct.
You know, I was talking to Tedtoday, ted Hicks, who we love,
whatever and I was asking himhow do you deal with?
You know, like, let's be honest,ted Hicks has a pristine image,
like on the internet, likeeverybody loves to, and I was
(16:09):
like how do you deal, though,with people or when things erupt
, or whatever?
And he was like I don't.
And I was like, yeah, okay,okay.
But he's like, no, no, carmen,I I don't Walk away from it, I
ignore it, I would ever.
And I was like, see, that's awhole other level of skill I
will never have, you know,because I think there's a level
(16:32):
of patience there or like IDon't know what it is, but at
some point people are gonna pissme off enough and I'm gonna say
something.
Oh yeah mute and sneeze.
That was so good, because thenit makes it easier for me.
Cynthia Ruiz (16:46):
I was like Andrea I.
Rick Costa (17:09):
Love how you.
Carmen Lezeth (17:21):
I brought up 10 Hicks.
I did that for a reason becauseI thought it'd be an easy way
segue.
So Ted Hicks wanted me to askyou all, joy you to, even though
you weren't there last time.
I guess the guys want to doanother collab, but they want to
do it in December.
And I said I didn't hear.
My people said they wanted todo it again.
Andrea Nunez (17:43):
It would be a lot of live on the air.
Carmen Lezeth (17:50):
You can think about it, mull it over and let
me know.
Andrea Nunez (17:54):
I'd be happy to do it.
I just got it.
You know like December is arough month, but yeah Well,
cynthia joy I.
Joy Gouge (18:02):
Will try.
I guess it depends on what time.
Carmen Lezeth (18:06):
Well, it would be at six o'clock, it would be at
the same time, but it would beon a Friday.
So it's gonna be one of theDecember Fridays.
Did I say that right?
A Friday in December.
So I'll send you guys an emailand I mean I, all of them want
to do it, or whatever, and whichis kind of cool.
I just didn't even think aboutit because I thought we're gonna
(18:26):
do it Maybe quarterly.
But he has a idea, a theme,what he wants to ask questions
about.
I'm like, okay, cool.
Joy Gouge (18:36):
Is he gonna host?
Carmen Lezeth (18:37):
this time.
I think I mean he hosted lasttime I didn't host.
Well, I mean like on his.
So the reason why we weren'tusing his is because he can't
have the comments on oh I, it'sbecause they don't have, so he
has to be reading them and thenputting them up one by one.
Yeah, you know what I mean and,and I don't know, it just seems
(18:59):
like a lot of work if all of usare on there and yeah, no, do
you want to be on?
Oh, he invited you on his show,so you're all game if it fits
in your schedule.
Yeah, I'm not feeling a lot ofenthusiasm, I guess because
you're being recorded, so we'lltalk about it later and I'll
take the blame for saying no,it's okay, you All right.
(19:19):
So I sent you guys all a littlelist and I wanted to ask you all
what is something extraordinarythat you've done that you may
or may not do again, and I wentskydiving back in 2005.
It's a great video, it'shilarious.
It was cut down to one minute,but I found the 15 minute one.
I'm not going to make you allwatch it, but I'm going to redo
(19:42):
it because the music on it,which is really cool, it's
Eminem and it's YouTube.
Every time I try to post it itgets taken down because it's not
licensed.
But the skydiving place did it.
So I found the actual originalvideo and I'm going to try with
all my new editing skills toredo it with some different
music so that I can show it,because I think it's kind of
(20:05):
cool.
But I love that video, not justbecause it's me skydiving, but
I'm talking to the camera guy.
You would think that I wastalking to him.
He can't hear me, but I'mtalking to him.
You're like get this light, I'mhaving a full on conversation
(20:26):
with nobody, because Mario can'thear me and Nathan is the
camera guy, clearly can't hearme, but it looks like I'm having
this whole conversation.
It's just kind of cool andanyways, but I would do that
again in a heartbeat and so itgot me thinking about that and I
just wanted to know if there'sanything extraordinary that you
guys want to do, haven't done,already did and never want to do
(20:47):
again.
Andrea.
Andrea Nunez (20:49):
Well, mine is also skydiving, so I don't know if
that's cheating.
Carmen Lezeth (20:53):
That's not cheating.
Did you go skydiving and Ididn't know?
Andrea Nunez (20:56):
Yeah, so I'm reluctant to bring this up, but
so I was skydiving on my 30thbirthday and like there was a
whole group of people and Idon't know why is like, why
weren't you?
Cynthia Ruiz (21:10):
there.
I'm so sorry yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (21:13):
Wait, what age was this?
Andrea Nunez (21:17):
My 30th birthday.
Carmen Lezeth (21:19):
Okay, so I think we're getting to a point right.
Andrea Nunez (21:22):
This is why you're reluctant because you got upset
about the surprise party thatyou were somehow not invited I
know that you were not invitedto this, but I have no way to
prove that.
Carmen Lezeth (21:39):
That's such a bullshittery.
I had a surprise party for me.
I didn't know about it.
Now you're mad at me for notinviting you.
Andrea Nunez (21:49):
Okay, you want to go back here?
Carmen Lezeth (21:52):
Because you just think you went skydiving, which
I never knew that you wentskydiving and you've been lying
to me all these years.
You want to talk about how youdidn't invite me to the
skydiving party.
Andrea Nunez (22:09):
I feel like I would have invited you All,
right, okay, I don't actuallyremember.
Here's like it was a group ofpeople, so it was my boyfriend
at the time who which was who do.
I know.
Carmen Lezeth (22:21):
Yeah.
Andrea Nunez (22:24):
You know didn't like him and my mom went your
mom went to.
Carmen Lezeth (22:29):
I love.
Joy Gouge (22:31):
Your mom was skydiving.
Cynthia Ruiz (22:33):
Yeah, yeah.
Andrea Nunez (22:34):
Yeah, and then a couple of friends, but I
honestly don't remember who.
Carmen Lezeth (22:41):
Well, I can't believe your mom went and you
didn't invite me.
Andrea Nunez (22:47):
So we went to this place.
I know I invited you.
I was in San Diego where youcould see the water, which was
really nice.
And we get there and everyone'syou know you have to sign the
waivers and everything.
You're not really thinking.
(23:07):
You're trying not to thinkabout it, Right?
You're like, oh okay, Like wecould literally all die and I
was like this could be theactual worst day of my life.
I was in love with her.
I could die in front of me, ormy boyfriend, who I love, or one
of my friends.
Like this was a horrible idea,but not Carmen, because she
(23:30):
wasn't there but.
I didn't like love it.
You know what I mean Like.
So I just feel like I'm I'mgood, I don't need to do that.
Carmen Lezeth (23:37):
Oh, you don't need to do it again.
Andrea Nunez (23:39):
Oh no.
Carmen Lezeth (23:40):
Did you video tape it?
Andrea Nunez (23:41):
Yeah, there's a video.
Oh my God, I've never seen thevideo.
Carmen Lezeth (23:45):
Wow, I've never seen it.
I've never seen it.
Cynthia Ruiz (23:47):
I've never seen it , I've never seen it.
Carmen Lezeth (23:48):
I've never seen it.
I've never seen it.
I've never seen it.
I've never seen it, I've neverseen it.
Rick Costa (23:57):
You've been, you've been hiding it because this is a
fight We'll have offscreen,that's okay.
Andrea Nunez (24:01):
I think Andrea was saving your life subconsciously
.
That's what I choose my lifeI've already gone skydiving.
Yeah, she didn't want to riskyou again.
Your skydiving In 2005,.
That was after my.
Cynthia Ruiz (24:09):
Yeah, that was way after her.
Joy Gouge (24:11):
Not way.
Cynthia Ruiz (24:12):
I was like oh, I'm like 25 years.
Andrea Nunez (24:19):
That was like me, sorry.
Carmen Lezeth (24:24):
I can't stop laughing.
Okay, we're going to talk later.
I feel like there's more totalk about that and I feel like
we're even, because I I can'tbelieve you're laughing.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm
sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'msorry, I'm sorry.
Andrea Nunez (24:45):
I can't believe your mother didn't invite me.
That's the weird you.
That's why.
I believe you were invited, butanyway, we can oh wow, we know
what or that I wasn't invited.
Carmen Lezeth (24:53):
Oh my God, I got it.
Yeah, I'm.
I'm going to pull a 10 X andI'm going to just ignore.
Rick Costa (25:00):
Ignore.
Carmen Lezeth (25:03):
I'm pulling a 10 X.
Okay, joy, what about you?
Joy Gouge (25:07):
You know, the weird thing is I don't know if I'm
really done anythingextraordinary.
I would like to go parasailingagain.
Carmen Lezeth (25:16):
You don't think that's extraordinary parasailing
?
I don't know.
Oh my God, don't keep her headjust like that, but it really
was a lot of fun, though itreally was.
Is this because you're sobougie?
Joy Gouge (25:31):
It's kind of one of the regular basis Parasailing,
parasailing, parasailing,parasailing, parasailing.
Cynthia Ruiz (25:36):
Parasailing.
Carmen Lezeth (25:36):
Parasailing, parasailing, parasailing,
pararasailing.
Joy Gouge (25:42):
Can you come over?
Well, the funny thing, you know, we're talking about skydiving.
And I was laying in my hospitalbed right after I had a blood
clot in my lung and the doctorwalks in.
The very first thing he says tome is no skydiving for you.
My mom was like Thank you,jesus.
And then he's like Uh, it'sLike he's planning to going to.
Carmen Lezeth (26:08):
Oh, you were gonna go, I was planning it yep.
I think power sailing wasscarier than skydiving.
I've never been power sailing,but I would think that's scarier
To me.
It would be.
Joy Gouge (26:20):
It's like, once you get up in the air, it's like so
peaceful because it's justsilent, you know, and I mean you
can see the ocean.
I was on the ocean and youcould just it was just, it was
beautiful, it really wasbeautiful.
Carmen Lezeth (26:35):
When you're really up high and it feels like
you're going slowly and howlong were you up there?
Probably about 10 minutes.
Yeah, no, that's too long.
No, no, no, no, no.
Andrea Nunez (26:46):
That's where you're like, attached to the
boat, right With a parachute,yeah, yeah, no, that always
looked fun to me.
But then you see the videowhere they get detached and then
they like float off somewhere.
Joy Gouge (26:58):
Yeah, no, I can't think about that, that's hand
gliding right.
Carmen Lezeth (27:03):
I mean, there's a difference between power
sailing and hand gliding.
I would never go hand gliding,for sure.
Joy Gouge (27:07):
Now see, when I was in San Francisco I was actually
going to try to get with one ofmy friend, chris, for a city.
He knew somebody that was doingthe hand gliding but the timing
just didn't work out for us.
Carmen Lezeth (27:21):
But I was actually going to go hand
gliding.
No, that I wouldn't do Wow okay, you're an adventurous, yeah, I
was yeah, here.
I thought I was all cool beingthe only one who wins skydive.
Clearly not, yeah, and clearlyI'm not the only bougie person
in the room.
So, okay, cynthia, and I justwant to give a shout out to
(27:43):
people.
If you still don't know whoCynthia can't see.
Blah, blah, blah, okay, hasanything changed, cynthia?
Nope, okay, well, whatever,yeah, what about you?
What about you?
Cynthia Ruiz (27:57):
I don't think I've done anything extraordinary,
but I do want to swim withdolphins.
Oh, me too.
Carmen Lezeth (28:04):
I do want to do that.
Yeah, that does nothing for me,but yeah.
Cynthia Ruiz (28:10):
I love dolphins.
Carmen Lezeth (28:11):
I'm sorry, joy, go ahead, sorry, go ahead, joy.
Joy Gouge (28:14):
I'm going to try to do that next year, yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (28:17):
Cynthia, what are you planning to do it?
No idea.
Do you like swimming in theocean?
Cynthia Ruiz (28:26):
No, so do I?
No, but it wouldn't be in theocean, it would be like in a
tank, like you know how, likethey have like in Vegas, how
they have like a whole dolphinshow.
You can actually swim with themin the tank In Vegas.
Carmen Lezeth (28:43):
Okay, wow, you just ruined the thought.
I would think you were doing itin the ocean.
Cynthia Ruiz (28:51):
No, not the ocean.
Andrea Nunez (28:52):
No, they don't have the trained dolphins in the
ocean.
You can't just jump in and swimwith them, right?
They won't come near you, Iwould imagine.
Joy Gouge (29:00):
Actually they can.
Yeah, they can.
Cynthia Ruiz (29:04):
Yeah, I'd be too scared of sharks coming to try
to eat them and eat me.
I don't know.
Carmen Lezeth (29:08):
Okay, I'll tell you.
When I used to go kayaking inthe mornings in Malibu, we would
all go kayaking at like six inthe morning.
It would be so cool to see thedolphins, you know what I mean,
and it'd be.
I was surrounded by a lot oftriathletes and I was like
scared out of my mind because Irespect and love the beach.
Everyone knows I live by thebeach and I do.
(29:28):
But being in the water isyou're never gonna see me wanna
do that.
So that was a lot for me.
But we would see the dolphinsyou know what I mean In the
morning with the surfers, whichis pretty cool, like when
they're like alongside them orwhatever.
Andrea Nunez (29:41):
But yeah, and they're like jumping over the
waves.
I've seen that.
Carmen Lezeth (29:45):
Yeah, they're just so beautiful and elegant.
But of course I was like thatlooked like a shark, that didn't
look like no dolphin and they'dbe like oh my God, Carmen, I'm
like it just looks like a shark,Like I see the fian, Isn't the
fian like it should?
I'd be like Carmen, Like youcan't take the city out of the
girl, right?
No matter where you go.
You only be so.
Andrea Nunez (30:03):
What is it?
I wanna watch them.
Cynthia, what is it Like?
Why do you wanna swim with thedolphins?
What is it about?
Cynthia Ruiz (30:09):
Oh, I love dolphins I've always loved
dolphins.
I just think they're so prettyand so smart and just I love
them.
Carmen Lezeth (30:17):
Yeah, the ones in Vegas in a pool.
Okay, maybe SeaWorld.
How about that?
Cynthia Ruiz (30:22):
I don't know.
Carmen Lezeth (30:23):
We thought it was a red blue.
Yeah, I would prefer that.
I'm like I'm the biggest one.
Carmen's okay in your SeaWorldtrip, but not your biggest
SeaWorld trip because they'reprobably at least trying to help
the dolphins, but do they evenhave dolphins in Vegas anymore.
Andrea Nunez (30:38):
I don't think they do.
No, they don't.
Kate.
We've had everything in Vegas.
Carmen, oh yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (30:44):
The only thing I wanna see in Vegas is you two in
the sphere, or whatever it'scalled.
That's all I wanna see, but I'mwaiting for those tickets from
someone who might be watchingthe show.
No, it's not.
Hello, hello.
Okay, rick, what about youSwimming with sharks?
Maybe?
Rick Costa (31:03):
I also actually like dolphins a lot because they're
so flipping, smart, butcontrolled environment.
I ain't going in the middle ofthe ocean with no dolphins.
Cynthia Ruiz (31:11):
No, thank you, no, thank you.
Rick Costa (31:13):
No, sorry, no, ma'am , no, no, no, yeah, water and me
?
No, thank you.
No, unless it's in the shower,no, which is another reason why
I'd amuse me.
Parks, if they have a waterpark.
No, I just know, even thoughthat's controlled.
But still, me getting suddenlywet anybody that knows me just
(31:35):
ticks me off, ruins my day,really makes me mad.
Don't make me go out in thestorm and rain.
I will be so pissed.
Don't let gang suddenly wet.
I'll do rollercoasters, I'll doanything upside down, flip me
up anywhere you want to, butdon't put me out of water ride.
No, sir.
Andrea Nunez (31:51):
Oh my gosh, the wicked witch on Wizard of Oz.
You're like yeah.
Rick Costa (31:55):
Exactly, Exactly, but the last time they had I
forgot what it's called, butit's like a pool but they have
these huge waves that they makein the pool, of the wave pool,
yeah.
And actually went into that andthey were like Rick, I can't
believe you're in here and I'mlike I know.
Cynthia Ruiz (32:11):
I'm like I tried something.
I'm actually scared of that.
I don't go up to my waist inthe wave pool.
Rick Costa (32:17):
Yeah, I went to the wave pool.
Carmen Lezeth (32:18):
I don't know what that is.
Cynthia Ruiz (32:20):
So it's this really big pool area and every
so often there's a wave thatstarts at the end and it starts
off huge and everybody alwayswants to go and just jump the
waves and it's yeah, it's a kindof dangerous.
Carmen Lezeth (32:35):
The main impact would wave in a pool.
Yes, yeah.
Rick Costa (32:38):
But it's like huge, so you're like bobbing up and
down as the water.
Yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (32:44):
But it's in a pool.
Rick Costa (32:45):
It's huge, right yeah.
Andrea Nunez (32:46):
Not the ocean.
Joy Gouge (32:48):
None of that.
Andrea Nunez (32:49):
It's like to give you the feeling of being at the
beach without the sand.
Yeah, yeah.
Rick Costa (32:57):
Hand gliding.
I would try that, nope.
Carmen Lezeth (33:00):
I would try that.
Too long, too slow.
Andrea Nunez (33:02):
See, that's funny.
Our things are in the air andthe sea, or the water, I guess,
maybe not the sea.
Carmen Lezeth (33:09):
Yeah, and Jared, would you do the swimming with
dolphins Hell?
Andrea Nunez (33:12):
no, I don't like fish.
I don't even want to go to thesea.
Rick Costa (33:16):
They're not fish, they're mammals.
Andrea Nunez (33:18):
Whatever.
I don't like fish, I will swimin the ocean.
I don't mind that, but I won'tgo too far out, but I don't want
to be touching water.
Carmen Lezeth (33:31):
Do you cook fish?
I've never known you cook fish.
No I love that about you.
Andrea Nunez (33:39):
I will eat it at a restaurant some, not all, but I
don't want the smell of it inmy house and I just think it's,
I don't know, they creep me out.
Carmen Lezeth (33:47):
Melanie said I'd rather do a water ride than a
roller coaster.
Rick Costa (33:52):
She's opposite, she's opposite.
Andrea Nunez (33:54):
You guys don't want to be upset.
Rick Costa (33:56):
I love a roller coaster.
Carmen Lezeth (33:58):
Roller coaster or water ride Joy.
Joy Gouge (34:02):
Oh god those.
Andrea Nunez (34:06):
You're just one here, I love roller coasters,
love them.
Carmen Lezeth (34:14):
You know what I was going to say.
The ones where you have theharness that comes over your
head and, like those, make meclaustrophobic.
And you know, most of them arethat now, like I'm used to the
old rickety ones where we wereall going to fall out Remember
we were going to have to do alittle tiny bar.
Rick Costa (34:31):
Just a bar and that's it 80s kids.
Carmen Lezeth (34:35):
we really did not .
We were not very well protected.
Rick Costa (34:42):
And yet we survived.
Carmen Lezeth (34:43):
And yet we survived.
We didn't have to eat else.
Remember that.
Rick Costa (34:47):
Oh yeah.
Carmen Lezeth (34:49):
OK, wait, Do you remember?
Ok, I don't know about you guys, but when I was growing up,
you'd walk into somebody's houseand everybody was smoking.
They'd talk to you and they'dbe like smoke in your face.
Now, if somebody's smoking amile from it and I do this all
the time because I'm ex-smokerI'm like, oh, I'm going to get
(35:12):
cancer.
It's horrible, You're leavingme 80s kids.
We didn't really.
We really had it different.
Oh yeah, You're a feral.
What did you say?
I said we were feral.
I don't know what feral means.
Andrea Nunez (35:27):
What does that mean?
Like a wild cat, you know whatI mean.
They say a feral cat.
You're just out on your owntrying to survive.
Carmen Lezeth (35:38):
But you know what , I don't ever remember seeing
it that way, but when you lookback you realize you really were
yeah Well, you don't see itthat way, because that's just
your life.
Andrea Nunez (35:48):
When you look back and you're like, oh, what was
the reason you never knowwriting our bikes until midnight
, I don't know.
Carmen Lezeth (35:57):
We used to play.
This is how I knew we were outlate at night.
We used to play somethingcalled flashlight tag, which
means it had to be dark out.
We all had flashlights and it'dbe the same thing.
But then you would have to gofind people, You'd have to put
the beam of light on them andthen they'd be it and everybody
would be on rooftops under cars.
(36:20):
We'd be climbing trees and I'mlike, oh my god, if any of the
kids in my life would do thatnow, I'd be like, are you crazy?
But it would be 9, 10 o'clockat night.
Anthony just said every 80s kideither stood up in the front of
their mother and father's caror rode jammed pack in the back
of the station wagon.
Cynthia Ruiz (36:42):
The station wagon, yes, the station wagon Head of
the truck right.
Rick Costa (36:46):
Dangle in my feet at the back of the car.
Head of the truck.
Carmen Lezeth (36:48):
Oh, come on Right on the pickup truck, what other
crazy 80s things do youremember that you would
especially the parents in theroom and the God grandparents I
think that's all of you exceptme right that we do that you
wouldn't let your kids do oryour nieces and nephews do.
Rick Costa (37:06):
What was that thing that spun around?
And you just held on to it fordear life.
And they spin like crazy, likethe playground.
Cynthia Ruiz (37:14):
I don't think they would fly those anymore.
Rick Costa (37:16):
They don't fly?
Cynthia Ruiz (37:17):
I wouldn't fly today.
Carmen Lezeth (37:18):
Well, I'm shocked that they have those cushion
things at the playgrounds.
You know, when you walk on thefloor of a playground, it's like
a gymnastics floor, it's allcushion.
Cynthia Ruiz (37:26):
Yeah, you like bounce.
Carmen Lezeth (37:28):
I'm like what the hell is this?
And then, like the bottom waslike it's so that the kids don't
hurt themselves.
Rick Costa (37:34):
I'm like and now they don't want metal slides,
they want plastic.
So you don't burn your butt, Iguess, or whatever.
Carmen Lezeth (37:40):
Ooh I used to have them skin burns when you
wore the cords, but isn't that?
How Look?
I'm not saying kids should behurt, but isn't that part of
learning?
Andrea Nunez (37:50):
Yes, well, I've talked about this a million
times with you, carmen just likethe inability of kids today are
not able to make decisions forthemselves.
They have like almost zeroindependence, and I actually
read this whole study about howthat could be, in addition to
(38:11):
certain other things happeningnowadays, part of what leads to
like these skyrocketingdepression and things like that,
and just the ways people thinkabout kids now, how they're, the
way they are in the workplace,like they just we were out
making decisions for ourselveswhat we wanted to eat, when we
wanted to eat, who we wanted tohang out with, when we wanted to
(38:31):
leave, what we wanted to play.
I mean, we were making all ofthose decisions for ourselves at
a very young age and kids nowdo not even have an opportunity
to do something like that.
Cynthia Ruiz (38:44):
But the difference is, I think back then, even
though we made all thosedecisions, we still had respect
for our elders.
These kids nowadays can't makea decision and have no respect
for their elders.
Joy Gouge (38:56):
Exactly.
Go ahead, joy, explain no,you're right.
You're right, I mean, granted,I'll have in the number one,
most crime written area inAmerica.
We got that title and you seeit every day in Memphis about
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there's no respect.
Cynthia Ruiz (39:18):
None.
Joy Gouge (39:19):
Wow.
No respect for themselves, norespect for the elderly, nothing
.
Carmen Lezeth (39:25):
Yeah, the whole elderly thing is weird to me.
Let me just answer somethingMelanie just wrote.
Melanie said we would playflashlight tag in a fenced-in
yard.
We didn't have a yard, but Ihear you, I got you and yeah, it
was a merry-go-round at theplayground.
That's exactly what it was,Melanie.
I think that's what it wascalled.
Rick Costa (39:44):
The world was our yard.
Andrea Nunez (39:48):
Her yard was a football block.
Carmen Lezeth (39:50):
I'm shocked by the lack of respect for the
elders, but I will admit that Imade a mistake with one of my
clients.
So one of my clients isoriginally from Texas.
I handle a lot of propertiesthat they own in Texas or
whatever, and one of the thingsthat's really great about her is
that the way she raises herkids is they have to say yes,
(40:13):
ma'am, no ma'am, and it's reallyrefreshing.
I'll just be honest, it's weird.
When I first met them and Iwalked into the house and they
call me Ms Carmen and they sayyes, ma'am, no ma'am or whatever
.
And the first time one of thekids said it to me I said oh,
you don't have to say ma'am.
And my client came running overno, he does.
(40:33):
It was really interestingbecause here I was kind of
poo-pooing the whole ma'am thema'am thing because I feel old
if somebody says that.
And then what my client told mewas like I'm from down south,
my kids will always berespectful, they will always say
that, and it's so refreshingand now I realize that's
actually an honor, like I lovewhat they call me Ms Carmen and
(40:56):
I get it.
I think there's also somethingto it that I'm not saying that
kids are at fault for notrespecting.
I think their parents are notteaching them that.
But we also kind of push awaythis thing about becoming elders
right, like this is weird thing, like we all have to be cool
and hip I'm doing air quotes,hip or whatever and not fall
(41:19):
into that category.
So I feel bad, cause I thinkthis generation doesn't get to
make those decisions becauseagain, not a parent, but I'm
gonna throw this out therethey're sheltered from day one.
You don't let them go outsideand play.
You create play dates.
You don't let them take chances.
Or I had someone the other dayon TikTok make a comment about
(41:44):
what do you mean?
You used to drink out of thehose.
I'm like what are you confusedby?
You would get in the middle ofit.
Somebody had a hose and you'dbe thirsty, you'd drink some
water.
They were like oh no, I wouldnever, I would never.
We were thirsty, we drank out ofthe hose, somebody's you know
(42:06):
garden or whatever, and I saythat loosely in the streets of
Boston, but you know what I mean.
I'm not blaming parents.
I think it's just the world welive in and that's why I think
kids gravitate towards theinternet so much, cause that's
kind of their playground.
And it leads me to the nextquestion I had, which I told you
(42:27):
all.
I wrote a blog post this pastweek.
I don't know if y'all had achance to read it, but I should
probably tell people.
So I have two websites allabout the joys.
One website which is just kindof our clips and is more of a
place where I just kind of putstuff that's happening.
But for over 20 years I've hadmy own website, which is
carmenlesetcom or carmenswarscom, and every week I post a blog.
(42:48):
That's probably a little bit,as I was called, spicier,
spicier and then what you hearhere.
But one of the things I talkedabout in that blog post was I
wonder if the disconnect betweenmy generation which I think is
everyone in this room Gen X andmaybe millennials and Gen Z, is
(43:10):
this different idea of how weuse the internet Like to me.
In the blog post I wrote, theinternet is just a tool.
It's not my everyday life.
I can live without the internet.
It is just something I use todo things.
It's kind of like to me, nodifferent than a microwave or a
television set.
(43:30):
It's just another thing in thetoolbox that I own.
But my question was is itpossible that millennials and
Gen Z that other generations theinternet is there every day.
It's them walking outside.
It's like us walking outside,growing up and hanging out For
them.
This is their reality and maybethat's where the disconnect is.
(43:55):
I'm just asking.
Rick Costa (43:58):
Like little kids can't even fathom that there
didn't used to be an internetLike what you had.
No internet Like it's barbaricor something.
Andrea Nunez (44:07):
Yeah, not even little kids.
I mean people in their 20s mayhave no experience of life
without the internet or evensocial media really in their
memory.
Cynthia Ruiz (44:20):
So I think that makes a lot of sense that
they're just made out of it andthey're gonna allow that social
skill of actually meetingsomeone talking to them.
Everything is just on thecomputer, on their phones.
Carmen Lezeth (44:36):
Joy, what do you think about it?
Joy Gouge (44:38):
No, I agree, because there's no personal skills,
there's no true interaction andfor a lot of times, when there's
interaction between young kids,it's either bullying, it's
(44:59):
either cyber stalking it's crazy, and I'm talking about like
fifth and sixth grade kids.
Yeah, and it's sad.
It really is sad, because whenyou see a lot of kids and not
all kids are like this pleasenot trying to label all kids as
(45:20):
like but in even like 20somethings, they don't know how
to interact with people.
Yeah, you know, they just don'tand it's sad.
Carmen Lezeth (45:31):
Well, I think that had a lot to do with.
I'm just gonna shout out andsay that Melanie said that she
used to drink from the sink aswell as the hose.
What do you mean?
The sink?
Oh, we would just drink waterfrom the sink.
Rick Costa (45:43):
Yeah, because today people are like ew.
Carmen Lezeth (45:45):
Oh yeah, that's right.
I didn't think about that.
That's right.
Andrea Nunez (45:48):
Nobody drinks from the sink.
Well, nobody drinks, they'resink water maybe it's a toilet
water.
You know what I'm talking about.
Carmen Lezeth (45:54):
It's not the water.
Right here.
I was thinking that maybe, youknow, I think that might be a
lot of the disconnect between myunderstanding like people are
having full on relationships,romantic relationship, they have
best friends they've never met,I you know, up until I started
thinking about it, especiallyfrom what happened last week on
(46:15):
the show.
That's why I started thinkingabout this and I was just
completely thrown by thisconcept that I'm best friends
with somebody or that I'msupposed to be something with
somebody, with people I've nevereven met or had any type of
relationship with.
And and Andrea, you and I haddinner and we were that's kind
of where, this kind of squaredrug having this conversation
(46:36):
with you, and I wonder if it'seven fair Like it's probably not
fair to tell people go meetpeople in person Cause they, for
them, that's their world, theirworld is actually getting up
every day and getting online andthat's them going outside.
Does that make sense?
That's how.
Andrea Nunez (46:58):
I'm saying it, yeah, yeah, that's not the world
they grew up in, right, evenwhat I was talking about, like
they didn't grow up in a worldwhere you go outside to play
with the neighborhood kids andyou know we can look at all of
the different reasons.
That almost doesn't matter atthis point, cause that's just
not what happened, mm-hmm Right.
Carmen Lezeth (47:18):
So but does that make us our situation better and
there's worse, like are welosing something with everything
they've gained?
Andrea Nunez (47:27):
I mean, maybe, maybe not.
Right Time will tell, I suppose.
But like it's just different,you know they have skills we
don't have.
Carmen Lezeth (47:36):
Exactly.
Well, that's the big one.
And let me just read whatAnthony just wrote.
He said is that US?
Andrea Nunez (47:44):
or us, us the net savvy and tech nerds.
All right, keep going.
Have it attributed to the waykids are?
When I was a kid, this was newand it was like revenge of the
nerds or war games.
We've made it the normal,making it a double-edged sword.
Yeah, oh, good point, it's areally good point.
Great movie war games by theway I could watch that not that
(48:05):
long ago.
Carmen Lezeth (48:06):
Yeah that's a great movie, since we can talk
about movies.
Yeah, I think I'm excited.
Rick Costa (48:11):
I heard somebody say like if you want to punish your
kid, don't say go to your room,just turn off your router.
Cynthia Ruiz (48:18):
Yeah, yeah turn off your router.
Carmen Lezeth (48:21):
I think there's something to this idea.
And then you know, look it, I'malways open to changing and
look it.
I'm not just talking about kids, we're talking about
30-year-olds.
So let's be very clear, we'retalking about millennials here.
That's what I'm.
I think kids I'm just going tobe straight up Gen Z kids like
my goddaughter, juliana, areactually in a lot of ways and
(48:43):
Andrea, you can tell me,isabella is the same way, but
kind of just, there's a lot ofrejection of technology and
there's a lot of embracing ofwhat they think the 80s were
like right, like they all haveturntables.
They all think we lived in likefriends, like in big apartments
in New York and we all hung outat the car.
Now, in a lot of ways, she'snot wrong, you know what I mean
(49:06):
but I see a lot of rejection tolike she won't wear labels and,
rick, you and I were talkingabout this at one show Like we
were all about, like NikeJordash, to the point, and so I
really want to be clear.
I feel like there's a and it'snot all people like Joy, how you
said, it's not everyone, butI'm talking about older people
(49:28):
who are in the 30s and 40s whoare really kind of, maybe in
that mesh of being involved withthe internet in such a way that
I actually do think isunhealthy, right.
And yet I see what thebrilliance of.
I would have never met Joy orRick or Ted Hicks or Melanie or
(49:50):
Anthony Davis if it wasn't forthe internet, right, like.
And when I say meet, I meanhaving these conversations and
just having the ability toconnect with people in other
countries.
And you know, I mean I have somany quote unquote friends.
I think about Nazim, who I sawon Facebook today, and you know
so they're a great benefit, butI wonder if there's more harm
(50:12):
being done because of the lackof ability to have an
interaction in person.
Maybe I'm wrong.
Andrea Nunez (50:21):
I mean, that's what we're designed for, right
Like humans want thatinteraction.
It's a very natural,animalistic thing.
Carmen Lezeth (50:29):
I mean, I really believe that, and so yeah, but
is that different if you do itonline versus in person?
Andrea Nunez (50:34):
Yeah, I do think it is.
So I do think something lost,you know.
Carmen Lezeth (50:39):
I'm going to argue with you.
I'm going to say what does itmatter if it's in person or not,
like I just?
I mean.
Andrea Nunez (50:45):
I really can't say like put my finger on it, but
like you and I can have ourphone.
You know, I'll just use us asan example.
Right, we can meet here onlineand we can have our phone calls,
but there's something differentabout, I would say, the way
both of us feel when we have achance to get actually together
in person.
Carmen Lezeth (51:06):
you know, Right, but we met before the interwebs
was a thing, right?
Well, I can't?
Andrea Nunez (51:12):
I mean, if that's the criteria, then I can speak
to it, because I don't know whatit's like to be here, right?
No, no, no.
Carmen Lezeth (51:18):
But that's kind of my point right?
My point is someone who's grownup with having the internet as
their way of having interactionson a regular basis.
Does that make theirrelationship less real?
Because they're never gonnameet another.
Andrea Nunez (51:33):
I'm not in their mind, I wouldn't think, but, as
you were saying in my mind,maybe it does right.
Maybe I'm judging, I have nevermet Rick.
Carmen Lezeth (51:46):
I've never met Joy.
Does that mean that myrelationship is less important
or less of substance because Ihaven't met them in person?
Is the question.
It's something I'm grapplingwith.
I think, it depends on eachperson.
So you're saying Joy is thebetter person, so that's a good
relationship, but Rick sucks.
(52:06):
So yeah, yeah.
Rick Costa (52:11):
I'm just kidding, In my Facebook memories today
there's this woman that she waskind of big on the Periscope
days and all that stuff too,Very motivational type
personality and everybody lovedher, whatever.
And so we talked, we liked eachother, whatever.
And then she goes.
You know what?
I'm gonna be in Massachusetts,but I'm gonna be in Connecticut
to airport because I'm going toBradley.
(52:32):
She goes.
You wanted me.
I was like heck, yeah, let's go, let's meet.
And so we did and I havepictures and everything.
We met up but like nothingchanged.
Like just because I met her inperson, it's still nothing
changed.
We're still like each other,the same, equally.
Nothing really changed justbecause I met her in person.
I'm just, that's the case withRick anyway.
Carmen Lezeth (52:51):
So you would say, based on that example possibly,
that whether it's in person ormeeting online, it's the same
thing.
Rick Costa (53:00):
It can be.
Carmen Lezeth (53:03):
Melanie says every generation has things that
the previous generation didn'thave.
Who wants to live inpre-industrial revolutionary
days?
This is what I'm talking about,melanie keeping that bar up,
girl.
That's incredible.
It's a great point.
It's a great point.
Rick Costa (53:20):
And something that would be interesting to talk
about maybe too one day is howmuch would our lives, each of us
, be upended and thrown upsidedown if suddenly something
happened in the world and therewas no internet?
Andrea Nunez (53:32):
I said I think about that all the time In a bad
way.
Carmen Lezeth (53:35):
I think that would be a great thing.
Andrea Nunez (53:38):
I do too, but it would be a rough couple of weeks
.
Rick Costa (53:43):
For the kids especially.
Carmen Lezeth (53:44):
My kids would be trust Parents of kids.
Michael just said I believe youcan have a connection with
someone on the net.
Love frequencies can be feltfrom great distances.
That's fair enough.
I look at.
I'm gonna start wrapping thisup because I did talk to Ted and
his show is gonna.
He's like I said we'll get offso he can have a show at 7.15 or
(54:07):
whatever.
But here's the thing.
I'm a little old school.
I really believe there issomething different to meeting
someone in person.
I am gonna try to be more opento the idea that some people for
me it's also the romanticrelationship thing that's
(54:27):
killing me.
Maybe that's a more detailedconversation to have Can you
have a romantic relationshipwith someone who you've never
met?
And that's kind of like that.
Some people believe that theycan.
I guess so, but that's the onethat's harder for me.
Do I think Joy and Rick wouldstill be good friends if I met
(54:48):
them in person?
Of course I don't think thatwould not be, because I feel
like I'm getting to know that.
But could I meet someone onlineLike to me?
Okay, this is what I said todayto somebody I was talking on
the phone.
I said I have always been inlove with, let's say, indiana
Jones.
Right, because that's you andeverybody knows I.
Indiana Jones, that's my man,right there, that's my man.
(55:08):
You know what I mean.
The actor is 80 something yearsold today.
You know what I mean.
Like, the reality of who he isis not the character he portrays
to be.
Do you see what I'm saying?
Joy Gouge (55:22):
Like to me when I think of me and to show catfish.
Exactly, show catfish.
Cynthia Ruiz (55:29):
Oh, so catfish is basically people who have met
other people online and theyso-called have fallen in love
with them, and the other personon the other line is not who
they really are.
Carmen Lezeth (55:40):
Oh yeah, that's a scam.
That's a scam.
Yeah, Mike said.
Many people meet on the net andend up getting met.
Yeah, I don't have a problemwith that, but they actually
meet each other.
What we're talking about whenyou've never met anyone, Michael
.
I totally hear you, Anthony.
The internet has helped peoplemeet that they would have never
met in real life.
But if all of this were to bedestroyed, it would throw us
(56:02):
back into the era of the 1950sand maybe even now, Absolutely.
And let me be clear what I'mtalking about.
I think the internet as a toolto meet new people is brilliant.
I'm not against.
I love social media, I love theinternet and I love that I've
met all these people.
But eventually I would think Iwould meet people in person,
(56:22):
especially if I'm in love withthem, Right, If I'm having a
romance.
That's where it gets a littleweird for me, and I hope to
someday meet.
Well, Rick and I are going toPortugal.
He said it once.
I'm holding him to it.
Look at, he's like what?
Rick Costa (56:42):
Yeah, it's right on my passport.
Carmen Lezeth (56:46):
Well, look, it's something to think about.
I really appreciate it.
The last thing I want to talkabout we have a few minutes, and
this is really to two people,so I'm going to start with Rick
and then I'm going to go withAndrea, and then I'm going to go
with Joy and then I'm going togo with Cynthia.
When is it appropriate to putup a Christmas tree, if that is
your thing?
Cynthia Ruiz (57:07):
OK.
Carmen Lezeth (57:07):
Rick, why don't you start us off baby?
Rick Costa (57:11):
I mean, it's definitely an individual thing.
Everybody's different about it.
Some people have an attitude ofI can listen to Christmas music
all year round, and otherpeople are like, no, it's just
during the Christmas season.
Me, I feel like wait till weget past Thanksgiving and then
go crazy.
Before that I'm like it's alittle bit early, but you do you
.
Joy Gouge (57:32):
Andrea your thoughts.
Andrea Nunez (57:35):
After Thanksgiving for sure, without a doubt for
me, and I would even leantowards maybe like get into
December.
Really that's interesting Likea beat yeah yeah, like December.
Have it be an actual separateholiday OK.
I hear you Living, take a beatChristmas.
Ok, go ahead, joy.
Rick Costa (58:00):
All right, sorry, and you're pointing perfectly at
it.
Great job, joanie.
There's the answer, no wordsnecessary.
Joy Gouge (58:17):
How long is this going?
Carmen Lezeth (58:18):
to take.
Ok, we know, we got to get youback, we got to get you walking.
Joy Gouge (58:23):
She's going to show us how Go ahead you got to bring
it.
I'm still there, right, ok,wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait, wait, wait, wait, because it's
too high up.
Carmen Lezeth (58:33):
We're looking at the ceiling a little bit more.
Ok, good, now go around theroom.
Joy Gouge (58:37):
so we can oh that actually looks pretty though OK
here's my little one.
I'm not finished with yet.
Carmen Lezeth (58:42):
I've got all this .
Oh my gosh, you got the garlandup.
Ok, bring it down again.
We can't really see.
We're seeing the ceiling.
Ok, got it.
Wow, girl, when am I present?
Joy Gouge (58:51):
You have Joy Right now.
Just take it on.
I've got one little one.
How?
Andrea Nunez (58:55):
many are you going to have by the end of this
decorating situation?
I'm not sure.
Carmen Lezeth (59:03):
So cute Is my present there.
It's a big.
I see you didn't let us see thebottom of the tree because I
was going to put the car in myplace.
Rick Costa (59:13):
She didn't wrap it yet.
Cynthia Ruiz (59:14):
It's not really feeling me and Joy are on the
same page.
Carmen Lezeth (59:18):
I thought I went the way I went, ok, but I think
Joy has you be.
But go ahead, cynthia, why?
Rick Costa (59:23):
aren't you, cynthia, about to turn her phone around?
Carmen Lezeth (59:27):
That's OK.
You did it good.
It's perfect, cynthia.
Cynthia Ruiz (59:30):
So usually November 1st, I put up my tree
right after Thanksgiving.
I didn't do it this timebecause last weekend I was sick,
so it's going to go up thisweekend.
Andrea Nunez (59:43):
Oh goodness, Are you like it's so?
Cynthia Ruiz (59:46):
I'm so itching to put it up.
Carmen Lezeth (59:48):
I mean, I put that question on here because I
saw Joy post it on Facebook.
I was like this is the.
I loved it.
I loved it.
It was so good.
Oh, you're in there, you'reinto it, you know what.
Here's the thing.
I was going to tell you guyswhat my theory is, and I don't
(01:00:09):
think it's a bad thing.
I think the thing aboutChristmas, whether you are
religious or not and I can saypretty easily with Andrea and
myself hey, ted, I'm a word,we're jumping off on time the
day after Halloween, but itneeds to be taken down before
that's what Ted just said in thecomments.
(01:00:30):
I think the reason why you knowpeople like Christmas is
because of joy, and I don't meanmy friend Joy, I mean because
it elicits happiness and joy andit's like we crave that so much
.
But I think it's actually a sadthing.
Right, we have to put upChristmas and I'm not saying we
(01:00:51):
have to, but I think that's whatit is and it's getting earlier
and earlier every year.
So I want to find joy somehowin Halloween or in like fourth
of July or something.
Well, I'm lucky because I havea friend who was born on the
fourth of July, so we can havejoy on his birthday.
It's actually Joe Lava who wehad on the show his birthday on
(01:01:13):
July 4th.
Let me see.
Anthony just said we have arule about the Christmas tree in
our house.
We put it up between December10th to December 16th.
I think that's normal baby,because my brother's birthday is
on December 15th.
To take it down then take itdown is always on January 2nd or
3rd.
Yeah, having a birthday duringthat time period makes you have
(01:01:34):
to change the game a bit.
Could it be all about the joyand Tony is trying to promote
the show, but?
But so I'm going to close thisoff a little bit and move us
through and move on to makingsure we go check out Ted's show.
(01:01:54):
Thank you everyone For stopping.
Can I just say no, no, no.
Cynthia Ruiz (01:02:00):
OK, I'm so bummed that I can't see joy.
I want to see all her Christmasstuff.
You can see it.
Rick Costa (01:02:11):
Oh man.
Carmen Lezeth (01:02:12):
Right, you cannot see joy.
You still can't see her.
All you see is a.
Rick Costa (01:02:18):
Oh, I bet, when you open Joyce door, a stereo kick
sign.
All I want, a lot for.
Cynthia Ruiz (01:02:22):
Christmas.
Andrea Nunez (01:02:25):
That's your doorbell.
Carmen Lezeth (01:02:27):
I was good you brought it back.
I forgot about that whole thingat the beginning.
But, yeah, you haven't beenable to enjoy.
But you know, until the veryend you'll be able to go watch
the replay, you'll be able tosee her.
But her Christmas stuff lookscool but she ain't even because
what she she doesn't realize.
We all noticed, right, she, shepanned the camera and we can
see that she started.
She started to put some otherstuff up like this, whatever.
(01:02:51):
I saw that she got that placehooked up.
So we'll see you again nexttime, joy, when you have it all
full on.
Joy Gouge (01:02:58):
Cynthia frame me on Facebook.
Cynthia Ruiz (01:03:02):
OK.
Carmen Lezeth (01:03:02):
I will yeah you guys, oh God, yeah, the
Christmas buddies Great, buteveryone, it was great to have
you here.
Thank you so much.
I'm going to do a couple ofshout outs again.
Linkedin oh my God, we are likefour hundred and eleven people
now.
I know people don't thinkthat's a big deal, but to me
(01:03:22):
it's huge.
And I don't know what happenedthe other day, but we got a
whole bunch of new followers onthe podcast.
Rick Costa (01:03:29):
Sassam Carmen came out.
Carmen Lezeth (01:03:33):
But anyway, thank you to everyone and I
appreciate everyone's kindnessand uplifting spirits about my
family on the East Coast.
I did go home for anunfortunate passing of one of
our sisters, one of our favoritepeople, who died unexpectedly.
So thank you for everyone whoreached out and, yeah, everyone,
we'll see you again next weekand remember, it's all about the
joy.
Bye everyone.
(01:03:55):
Thank you, thanks for stoppingby.
All about the joy.
Be better and stay beautifulfolks.
Have a sweet day.
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