Episode 043 - Interview with Kimberly Dyer

In this episode of the Business Broken to Smokin’ Podcast: 

Lodestone True North’s Head Coach Mark Whitmore interviews Kolbe Certified Consultant Kimberly Dyer. 

How We Work

https://www.kolbe.com/

https://www.kolbe.com/kolbe-wisdom/#ConativeMind 

0:00 Intro

5:42 Book reference — Traction by Gino Wickman 

7:28 What does it look like to get certified in Kolbe?

10:19 What are these assessments measuring and why are they valuable? 

Differences between 3 types of assessments:

• Affective (Feeling)
• Cognitive (Thinking)
• Conative (Doing - How you take action when you have the freedom to be yourself)

13:36 Why should we do any assessment?

15:01 Ergs…

17:20 “Imagine if you could accomplish your goals, objectives, with less people, or with the same people that aren’t burned out. You’d have a retention device built-in. You’ll probably start attracting people because they are hearing: ‘This is a great place to work.’”

18:56 ROI on assessments…

• Less mistakes because of miscommunication 
• Better collaborative team
• Better predictable results when you put a team together

20:09 What are some other note-worthy assessments? 

20:30 6 Types of Working Genius (Patrick Lencioni) https://www.workinggenius.com/ 

20:58 DISC

21:38 Book Reference - Drive by Daniel Pink

22:01 Mark’s M3M tool - https://youtu.be/NR9kRJFSYcc?t=318 

23:13 Reference to other assessments:

Strengthsfinder https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/strengthsfinder.aspx 

DISC https://www.discprofile.com/what-is-disc/how-disc-works/

Culture Index https://www.cultureindex.com

Predictive Index https://www.predictiveindex.com

24:09 What’s the difference between affective, cognitive, and conative?

25:50 Book Reference - 6 Types of Working Genius by Patrick Lencioni

29:04 Book Reference - Grit by Angela Duckworth

29:46 Ideal pairing with Kolbe…

31:31 What does the actual Kolbe assessment look like? (It’s not a test) www.kolbe.com

37:18 “You’ve got a perfect score!” (Strengths-based assessment) 

37:57 The 4 Numbers

• Red - Fact Finder (How you gather and share information)
• Blue - Follow Thru (How you use systems and processes, organizing)
• Green - Quick Start (How you handle risk and uncertainty)
• Yellow - Implementor (not implementer) (how you handle physical or tangible space/objects)

Different Kolbe assessments:

• Kolbe A (who your are truly in your natural state)
• Kolbe B (how you see your job)
• Kolbe C (how a supervisor would create for an ideal candidate)

46:00 How to do this without creating more problem?

• Half day workshop looks like…

49:58 Explain what the ranges are, hierarchy from left to right…

50:53 Fact Finder (Red)

1-3 Simplify (Start with end in mind, sees big picture)

4-6 Like and need to explain, fact checking along the way

7-10 Strategizing, looking for patterns

53:02 How do these conflict or get along?

54:32 Roles for different levels of fact finder…

56:38 Follow Thru (Blue) - Systems and processes. Digital files and physical files… 

1-3 Adapting

4-6 Maintaining the preexisting systems

7-10 Systemization (executing on current or creating new)

1:04:46 Quick Start - Risk and uncertainty

1-3 Stabilization to the chaos (resist straying from the plan) 

4-6 Modify

7-10 Innovators

1:08:13 Implementor - Haptics (tangible tools, physical space)

1-3 Envisioning (how’s it going to look)

4-6 Restoration or preservation

7-10 Pick up tools and start building 

1:09:05 Reference to Frank Gehry https://www.biography.com/artist/frank-gehry

1:14:50 How many ergs should we spend at work?

1:17:49 Tips or next steps…

1:21:40 Five desert island books

• The Book Thief by Markus Zusak 
• Four Seasons in Rome by Anthony Doerr
• Untethered Soul by Michael Singer
• Ann Rivers books - https://www.books