Why Your Womb Health Matters with Hope Milagro Aguilera

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Welcome to Kapakompam, the bilingual podcast gue Combarte Our Stories
since Josebation. Gonna Hope Mi la Aguilera Hope is a
mixed Mexican wellness coach. She's a trained herbalist, yoga teacher,
body worker, and wellness coach focused on the womb and

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pre and postpartum care. They're also an artist and former
art teacher who works in illustration and painting. Their art
and healing practices are inspired by their indigenous heritage. As
a mixed now a Mexican American, they're passionate about sharing
womb wellness in a non gendered, welcoming and colonized approach.

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Listeners this conversation with Hope, and I'm going to say
this because they actually shared it publicly on a thread.
They were a little bit nervous in the beginning because
they're also Everyone comes in with their own sets of

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challenges from their lived experience, and so I think you'll
be able to tell how in the beginning, Hope was
a little bit like, I don't know if I want
to answer questions. But then eventually as we built report
and we continued the conversation, my role is to hold space.

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My role is to make sure that my guest feels
the most comfortable, and sometimes that comes with time. Sometimes
that comes with more conversation, and so I think it's
important to name sometimes that as humans, we don't always
like to get questions, even though you know you show

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up for a podcast and you know you're gonna be
asked questions, but our nervous system may react some ways
because you're being questioned in a way. And part of
my inernia work, I know that there could be some
ernias that may be coming up and saying, why are
you letting someone ask you so many questions, and so
we just need to allow our bodies to regulate and

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ground and allow ourselves to feel safe. And so I
think part of the work and part of us sharing
our stories is also to not overly polish our conversations
and to also it's important for our stories to be

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as real as they are, and that could be showing
what would be considered an imperfect conversation when two humans
just met for the first time, even though we had
been engaging on social media and all the blazers and spaces,
but never through a call, which I do that on purpose.

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It also shows the realities of our humanity. No and
don't says one No, No, Mike is in my soapbox,
but I did want to name the truth. And at
the end, like towards, as we started gettingto to talk
to each other, it was really fun. We really got
into a lot of really cool topics. So stick around

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and stay till the end because you'll get to learn
a lot. Scene mess here's my conversation with Hope. Met Hope,
welcome to gover Gumpab.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Thank you thanks so much for having me. I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I'm excited to have you. So the first question we
always ask is what is your heritage?

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Yeah, so I'm mixed.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
My mom is Irish and from Greenolandia as I call it,
out here in the northeast of the United States where
they were living and settling as Irish immigrants.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
And my other side is Mexican. My family is.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
From a few different places in Mexico, mostly Nawaka is
our ancient ancestry, as well as a little bit of
Jaika from the Zacatecas area.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
So fun, how did your parents meet?

Speaker 3 (06:43):
So they met in church? Oh my name.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Clear, I see, Yeah, pretty too.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Well.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yeah, so they met in the colony of the church
in California. My mom had like moved out west for
Bible school college and was like, wow, wicked in the.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Church, the Christian Church. It's so culty.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
It like.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
Sucks you in.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
And my dad too, he like had gotten out of
prison and became a preacher right away, Like he was
like in a halfway house out of prison that like
was with the church, you know, And so.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
They, wow, they sucked him in.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
They suck him in there too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
So luckily they recovered recovered from the cults of no
offense to anyone just colonized religions can behave very colonized
and problematic, not that the religion.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Itself is problematic.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Luckily they recovered and ended up leaving the church because
it was like really yeah toxic.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
So you didn't grow up in the church.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Not really like a little bit.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
And my dad went to Catholic school like as a
young kid in California, like many Mexican families like super
Catholic colonized.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
But I went for like a few years.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
And then eventually my parents started to wake up to
the problematic nature.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, so interesting. And so for you, how was it two?
Because I know you went through an injury now.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, So I broke my back when I was younger,
and that's how I found yoga.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
How does one break their back?

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Right? I didn't know it could happen, Like, I didn't
even fall.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
It was like crazy obsessive softball practice, like literally a
hitting practice. I played like travel very competitive softball in La. Yeah,
and just like the hitting practice, over and over twisting
on my spine and it was just like a tiny

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little stress fracture. But it hurt more than like anything
ever in the world.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
The spine. It sucks.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
That's wild.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
So yeah, that's how I found yoga though, and I'm
a yoga teacher now. So you know, just like everything
in life, I'm grateful for the learning and where it
guided me.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
When you went through that injury, was there ever a
moment when because like I mean, breaking your back is
it sounds very intense, and so was there ever a
moment when you didn't think you were going to recover?

Speaker 3 (09:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:59):
I mean it's pretty scary just walking around with constant pain,
and then of course like the temptation of pain pills.
I was in high school, but like I already knew
how to get pain pills.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
At that point, I was living in rural New England
out here, so it's like very easy to get down
into the drug path here. I mean it's like anywhere unfortunately.
But yeah, so there were definitely times where I was

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pretty scared and had to wear a back brace.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
And that was fun.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Oh my gosh, So you didn't play halfball anymore?

Speaker 3 (10:45):
No?

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
As I got older too, I was like this is
so intense and why It's like I don't want to
be like, I'm not trying to be an olympian here.
I was just looking for validation from distant father.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
So in softball, Yeah, interesting, Yeah, you know, being good
at something, succeeding.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
I do think sports are good for that and building
that confidence and you know, some competitive nature is definitely
healthy to explore as a growing youth and build that
that confidence at fire in you for sure.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
For sure, and it served its purpose, you know, and
you did it. And so you go through the injury.
How did you make it way from LA to the
East Coast? What happened?

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, so we moved out here when I was a
sophomore in high school. So that was like cultural super
shock as a high school kid, I was like, what,
I went to Granada Hills High School in Laguna Hills.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
You said, Granada Hills, Granada Hills.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, like where they like filmed a three six Mafia
music video and stuff, you know, like in our football
field like three thousand kids two super tiny, all white
New Hampshire school, like two hundred kids.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Max.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Wow, how was it for a younger version of you?

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Yeah, it was traumatizing for sure. But it was during
the housing crash and was it two thousand and eight
My parents lost our house and my mom's family is
from out here. Her Irish family. So her mom my

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nana at the time, was like, yo, it's cheap out here,
just come live with me. And we were like, okay,
so how many of you. I have two siblings, so
five of us together.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
So you go through all of this with your back
and the move and I mean I experienced a move
when I was in high school. It's really hard culture change.
There's a lot of things. Who introduces you to yoga?

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Yeah, so I actually started doing Jillian Michaels yoga videos.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
Nice, so random. I don't know if she was just
on there on YouTube. So there we go, Thanks Tillie
and Michael.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
It was free.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah. I was like, she looks good, she looks like
she's she had great marketing, flexible, unfit. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, And then yoga ended up helping me like more
than the physical therapy. The physical therapy is weird. You know,
they're like doing these electric shocks on my spine for
whatever nerve therapy.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
It felt cool.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
I'll give them that, okay, you know, they'll do like
a little massage and they'll give me a few stretches
and then like the yoga was the stretching bit more
in depth.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
But the julian Is who was like, let me show
you this yoga.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
Thing, yeah, like her yoga classes on YouTube, and I
was like, I love these.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
I was like, I feel so good. It's like I
had only done like very crazy workouts as like my
physical body, like we didn't have. Unfortunately, dancing was not
like really like a part of our family. Like I
definitely had theas that were like, oh, I'll teach you
us also, you know, like a little bit when I

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would see them again, like super dysfunctional family, Like we
weren't like happy in dancing and feeling in our body ever.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
So I'd only experienced like movement and physical.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Workouts and like crazy weight training for my travel softball,
you know, or like running five miles right.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
So yeah, yoga was like, oh wow, this like feels good.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I'm like, hmm, you know, like feel relaxed, feel like
pain relieve in my body, like okay, listen to it.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yoguys kind of like what called you to movement after
your body being so used to intensely movement. Yeah, And
so then yoga is probably more dental. You can be
intense though it could be intense, but there's like restorative,
you know, there was no portion of it.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, I love like both ends of the spectrum. It's
funny I teach like I'm a yoga teacher right now,
and and so I'm teaching like regularly every week, and
I teach ashtanga, which I don't know if you know.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
But it's like the cardio.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
You're just like constant vinyasa jumping around handstands.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Boo boo boo. And then.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I'm also teaching yin and restorative. So it's like that's
my favorite bovents of the spectrum.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, it's so.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Many good class I do yen. I always pick yan
Oh so good.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I love it so good.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
So what happened to your injury? So you got into
the yoga thing and then what happened?

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, so like I hailed it completely. After a few years,
I never had back pain. I haven't had back pain
since then. That was like when I was sixteen and
I'm thirty two. So I'm in my thirties. I have
no back pain. I can't complain.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
And you would attribute that to yoga, to plants, to
healing your womb.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, yeah, So.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Yoga is like the catalyst that got me like into
my body and especially coming from like trauma and like
abusive you know, unhappy childhood. Like if we're not loved
and safe in our childhood, like we have to teach
ourselves as adults to do that like or else. You know,

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we're never we're never going to be balanced. We're going
to be searching for you know, external validation or finding
unhealthy coping mechanisms stopamine addiction in different things.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
So yoga like was what brought me.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Back to like calm and starting healing journey of realizing
like how much I needed calm, how much I needed
nervous system relaxation, mindfulness, you know, emotional regulation, body healing,
and then you know, keeping it as a regular practice

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just keeps you mindful and aware of your body and
also just your surrounding showing up in the moment, showing up,
you know, living as a human being on earth and
being in nature, so you know kind of naturally was
drawn to herbs. Just living like in the woods.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Now, it was like.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Coming from La It's like, wow, I live like in
the middle.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Of nowhere now, you know, like I live like in like.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
A fairy tale. That's crazy. There's just like wild plants
around me all the time. Wildflowers everywhere. I mean, there
are definitely parts of California that are like that, but
I didn't live there typically, not in the city.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
I lived in the hood where tweakers were going through
your trash cans and that's the peaceful sounds you hear
at night.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
So and here we have frogs and birds. So yeah,
so just.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Having that mindfulness made me just some more grounded human
and you know, more grateful for the life around me.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
And as soon as I started learning.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
About plants, it was like, why don't we learn about
Native American plants?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Why do we only talk about the European names?

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Like you started questioning?

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Eventually I started studying Mexican traditional medicine and like our
ancestral practices.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
You know, on my own, how did you decide? Because
now you have an epithecary and you also have been
trained with by Pacintenni and you do womb So how
did we get what? How did we arrive at the
womb space?

Speaker 3 (20:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:14):
So, you know, just like everyone in this country, it's like,
doctors don't.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Help with women's health.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
You know, are people you know, people with uteruses, Like
it's just like gas lighting forever So I went through
years of struggle with pain, with really bad crams, with depression,
and with what I thought was like a bipolar disorder

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from like emotional extreme dysfunction. I just thought like I
got this from my dad, who's bipolar.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
And were you diagnosed?

Speaker 3 (20:58):
No? I didn't get diagnosed. I never.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I never wanted to see a psychiatrist. I've been in
therapy and yeah, they never diagnosed me, just with the anxiety,
but you had signals, yeah, and wild depression and you know,
over time and literally like on TikTok, learning learning more,

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learning more about my cycle than any doctor ever taught me.
Found out that connected the dots that I have PMDD,
and my nurse practitioner did like confirm it. She was like, oh, yeah,
that makes sense. And I was like, but you didn't
think to like you know, so it's like they don't

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know and they're not trying. They're just like, go on
birth control.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
And I was on birth control for a while when
I was younger, and I feel like that really messed
up my hormones, like through puberty. Like as soon as
I was like in high school, they were like, she's
got to go on birth control. It'll help her acne.
And I remember just being like okay, and my mom

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for some reason just being.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Like yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, like whatever you say.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
It's a quick fixed band aid.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah and yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
And then after getting off of that, my periods were horrible, horrible,
And then since then it's been like just a journey
of years of like figuring out what is going on,
you know, learning from bunketzani, from you know, our traditional medicines,
learning from a Rivetta, which I've self studied and studying

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through my yoga trainings, and you know, arivetta is also
like an indigenous wisdom system built off of like the
element of nature and herbalism and how like warmth in
your body, you know, traditional Chinese medicine is kind of
very similar, like the elements and warmth, like these are

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important factors for your womb helm And finally like found
after like years, like only in the past year, it's
like like, oh my god, this is like this is PMDD,
Like I'm not bipolar, I'm not insane, I'm not just
like broken from trauma. Like I can just take a

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pepsid ac and it'll block my hips histamine receptors and
it's just like a neurological issue, you know, like it's
and it's what I'm eating and the things around me,
like being poisoned by colonial food systems. But there's a

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way to mitigate that and actually and treat it naturally.
Like but yeah, so I'm thirty two, and you know,
I've lived so many years with pain and dysfunction just
thinking that I was like trapped in that, you know.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
And there's so many women yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, and then it's like it's a super intersection for
so I'm audihd Adhd and recently diagnosed artistics. So women
with autism, it's insane. It's like or people with uteruses
that have autism.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Gender uteruses, but ninety six percent is the estimated of
people with uterus and autism have PMDD.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Wow to everybody, it's.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Like almost one hundred percent. So like what is going on?

Speaker 2 (24:55):
And one of the biggest causes of histamin in your
body is stress, and like obviously autistic people are just
going to experience so much stress in our society. Sure,
it's like so high demand and yeah, just like the
speed of capitalism, you know, and you know, not just

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people with autism, like people in general that have high
histamines from their diet, and then stress is a big cause.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
So of course we're going to be fed up.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Like, Okay, so we've talked about some things that we
may have to backpedal a little bit and give some explanations.
So for the people that don't know what's PMDD.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, So PMDD is pre menstrual depressive disorder, and it's
characterized like specifically by like the bipolar intense mood swings.
Like it's not just like the moody pms, it's like
intense mood swings like extreme depression and extreme anger and

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especially suicidal ideation, which you know, so many people are
just living through it thinking they're just like me, like, oh,
I'm just messed up, I'm just suicidal, I'm just traumatized,
I'm just broken, you know, like, and it's just literally
a physical dysfunction.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Issue, Okay. And so that in PMDD is something that
humans with uteruses who bleed still could go through pre
menstrual cycle.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Yeah, it's usually around two weeks before your.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Cycle, so when progesterone is hie and.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Estrogen is less, yes, and also could be a little
bit before your bleed in like changes in hormones. Yeah,
estrogen can cause higher histamines as well, like too much
estrogen because your body is like there's too much of this.
That's also how it reacts to like an allergy. So

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histamines come from like foods you're allergic to or like
inflammatory foods.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
So seed oils in everything.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Right, So now histamine, So what is what is histamine?
And the we'll tell us mark for the people that
don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Yeah, so histamine is like your body is immune system
response that causes you know, when you react to something
that your body doesn't want in it, like an allergy,
like people that you know have an extreme allergy. And
allergies can be really subtle, is the hard thing. Like
not everyone is gonna go into anophylectic shock or like

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have their throat swell up. That's just like the most
obvious or burst into hives. Last year, I burst into
hives for the first time, and that's when I like
start of digging into histories and I was like, holy crap,
like something's going on, you know, like I've realized that
I was allergic had developed new food allergies as an adult,

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which can happen you know if you're not regularly getting
your allergies tested. The symptoms can be very minor, So
I just have like some minor digestive distress from foods
that I was allergic to.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
I've always had a sensitive stomach.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
So and this is also like an intersection with people
with ADHD and autism tend to have gut issues, yeah,
and anxiety.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
It's like all connected in there.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
So yeah, your body releases history like causes inflammation. You know,
it's like your reaction to the allergy or whatever it
doesn't want in its system. It's essentially your body telling
you like, hey, we don't want this, like we're not happy,

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get away from this, which makes sense why the It's
like this common thing on like social media of like
PMDD jokes is like, okay, about to leave my partner,
Like PMDD meltdown right about to break up my partner,
piece out, you know. It's like this like fight or
flight intensity. And I think that's also where the suicidal

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ideation construm is. Your body is literally like I cannot
do this, like we need to go.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah for sure. For me, it was like I'm going
to close my business every time every month.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Oh yeah. Yeah, So you've experienced it too. It's the worst.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
It's the worst. And to your point of western traditional
Western medicine and bodies with uter siss one, they've not
been studied enough because they're expensive to study. So bodies
with utersays are expensive to study because we have four

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cycles per month, and so there's so much more work
to make sure that humans with rises are well. So
it's easier to dismiss us and just be like, well,
you just have to deal with the pain every month.
And I know so many, so many people that either

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have had hysterectomies like partial full, so many things, like
I can count them with two hands.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Just get away from the pain.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
Yeah, yeah, And every single one of them talks about
the pain and the discomfort and the mood and all
of the various things that affect us in ways that
they're like, I could not live with it anymore. So
it's easier for me to let someone take an organ

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then to exist every day with it. And it's such
a failure I know from the system. And I remember
one time I was talking to a pelvic floor physical
therapist and she was a public I think she was

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a public floor. So she was married to an obgyn
and she was like, let me tell you something. That's
my husband, who delivers babies, who went to like years
and years and years of med school, whom you go
to every year to get like quote your annual exam

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or whatever. He was trained to deal with sick bodies.
If you're not sick enough, he's going to send you
home and tell you it's fine. And this is why
so many bodies with unses suffers, because when we decide
to go because we're in pain or whatever it is,

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we're not sick enough. And that's the challenge with Western
medicine is that they are trained to heal sick illnesses.
And this is why I love indigenous traditional medicine Eastern
and Indigenous lineage of ancestral type of medicine because it's

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preventative instead of reactive.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yeah. And they're also like, oh, you're bleeding like three
cups of blood a day and like you're not supposed
to bleed that much at all, and huge ginormous cloths
and also like you're about to pass out of so
much pain, like that's normal, You're fine, No, that's sick,
Like what Yeah, And it's also this like assumption like, oh,

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you're a woman. So it's just like it's the suffering
we go through, like it is what it is, Like, no,
it's not, that's not it's.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah, and yeah it's so.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
And there's so many things that Western medicine doesn't like
consider as an issue, like Mexican traditional medicine. Like in
Mexican traditional medicine, like if you're bleeding too much, like no,
like you need to be taking milan drama yero, like
controlling the bleeding. You need to be taking you know,

(33:30):
yetbus that are rich in nutrients and building your blood.
You need to be steaming and reducing inflammation. But like, yeah,
Western medicine does not see inflammation. It's fine, right yeah,
or matris kayila, Like an improperly placed or dropped uterus,
they don't see that as an issue. But it's like,

(33:53):
of course, if your uterus is like in the wrong
place or squished or inflamed, like it's an organ, you know,
like how is it supposed to function and get blood
correctly and release blood correctly if it's all fucked up
in there?

Speaker 3 (34:10):
You know. So it's like, yeah, finding finding this.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Work in our you know, traditional medicine, it just feels
like so validating too, Like, you know, we're not crazy.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
It's not our.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Fault, you know, it's just like another beautiful aspect of
colonization and capitalistic.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Well, because healthy bodies are not profitable exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
That's the other thing is like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, just coming into this work and finding out how
much doctors schedule see sections just for the convenience of them,
one for.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Their schedule and then because they get paid more.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Of course they're going to want to do that. And
these women are getting cut open for what for this man?

Speaker 1 (35:05):
So people can get paid, right, So okay, let's take
a quick coffee break. Ope, tell us, do you drink coffee?

Speaker 3 (35:22):
I don't anymore. I'm like a recovering addict.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
You're a recovering caffeine addict.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, I'm drinking jump Rada right now.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
So I'm a chocolate lover.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, did you make it?

Speaker 3 (35:40):
Yeah? I made a chump rather mixed with Asha Ganda,
so really calm.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Yeah, so good, So easy to just cookao Asha Ganda,
little massa and some sweetener.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Bam done. Yeah, so comforting. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
I was a teacher for for years, so I used
to drink like three coffees a day just to survive.
Another reason why my my woman, my gut got so.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, so messed up. So what did you need to survive?
The kids or the system?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Oh yeah both, Yeah, one hundred one hundred kids a
day to deal with.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
It's a lot.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Oh yeah, it's a lot.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
It's a lot. I love that you're drinking Temperello, which
is that it's six pm your time. Yeah, yeah, that's
a nice like evening drink lovely on my end. I
am not drinking it's three pm I time, because you're
in the East coast some of the West coast. I'm drinking. Actually,

(36:54):
I mean you can't. It's very diluted at this point.
But I have after That's why I was excited to
talk to you, because after my medical neglect, I would
say I started diving back into plants a lot. And

(37:19):
listeners know that I have this thing about cocao as well.
So I drink a cow every morning and I brew
my COCW with plants actually, and so first I make
this like womb wellness tea with lots of things, and
then I brew my COCW with that every morning. Love that, Yeah, yeah, truly,

(37:43):
My hormones haven't been better my circle hasn't been better.
Like I talk to myself and I'm like, why did
I wait so long to do this? But you know
it had to happen.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Yeah, And it's so rich in magnesium, it's so good
for you. It's great.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
It's great. My anxiety is virtually gone.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Oh love that.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
I know me too, because that was not fun. But
I'm drinking cocow drops from a friend of mine. Shout
to Lauren, who went to Mexico City and she brought
me cocuse knows I love cocao, and so she brought
one cocou from Mexico City, which I grew up in
Mexico City, and so I was like, bring me some cocow.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
From my land.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
It's not obviously it's it's not from Mexico City, cocout.
It's like growing Mexico City, but it's from a place there.
And so going back to what I'm drinking, I am
drinking the leftover tea that I have in the morning,
which I have to remind myself to drink actual water.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
I'm the same way, I always drinking tea.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
All of this, all of this, but then my livers
like and my kidneys are like you need to call me.
Iast down and like give us some real real And
so that's where I keep I just keep like trigging myself.
I keep adding water to my tea and like it
was dark green, dark like blue in the morning, but

(39:12):
now it's like getting lighter and lighter and eventually it's
gonna be clear and you know, and I'll be like, okay, fine,
now I'm drinking water, yes, but for now, I put
some I brought some cocao drops to to It's kind
of like instead of drinking coffee mid day, I take
some cocao.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Mmmm. Yeah. So energizing mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
But it's not with the with the with like the
caffeine anxious rush, you know.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I love visiting Mexico City. It's so beautiful. It's insane
how huge it is.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
It's like and not at the same time. H Yeah,
it's crowded, it's tight, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
I know.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
I've into Puebla too, and that's where some of my
families from there too.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah. That Putslan is my other favorite place to visit.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
Ito.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Yes, yeah, for.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Sure, it's like broken, but I'm like I love it,
holding on to it.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Beautiful. Yeah, and it has the cowdly.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
My last name is Aguilera, so like anything egal, I'm like,
I love you, love that.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
I met a teacher there, so I visit.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
I try to visit every year to learn as much
as I can from about the Tamascali from a teacher
I met there. His name's Javier, and he's just like
super chill, you know, like THEO vibes. He's just like, yeah,
any now about you want to learn any you know,

(40:57):
any parts of ceremony you want to learn, Like, just
come in, I'll teach you.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
I'm like, he's like, what's here's my WhatsApp number. I'm like,
I love that. I love that about me.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
He goes like the culture is just like so much differ.
I miss it all the time.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
So much different. Mm hmm. Okay, let's get back to
the chocs. We're still in the cover break check. So
we were talking about the womb, and I think for
the listeners, I something that I learned when I was

(41:40):
in high school in Mexico City was the huge disconnection
we have with our wounds wombs. Because I or my
health teacher, so one I went to high school. When
I went back back to Mexico City. I went to
high school at an all girls school. M hmm, and
that was weird.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, I could have met yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
My team, my health teacher was uh an O g
y N. That was also in the evenings.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
She was a.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
When I she was like she worked for like a
health clinic from the government, so it was like very
like it was the free clinic for the people, and
so she had stories for us and she was like
so unhinged. I loved her because she was this very

(42:34):
like let me just tell you how it is type thing. Yeah,
and like she gave us so and plus this is
an all girl high school, right, so like she can
straight up be talking about whatever and there's not gonna
be anyone like being like on a Twitter. Like she'd
be like, look, this is how you wipe. You never
ever ever wipe from back to front. Doesn't matter who

(42:57):
you see or who tells you what, because let me
tell you the things I've seen when people do it.
And everyone's like, oh my gosh, yeah, we're never ever ever.
You know, that's how you learn, that's how you learn.
And she was very graphic and you know, a little

(43:18):
like sixteen year old us. We were like, oh okay,
so we are not to ever like not wash your
hands without like putting, like we never ever do dirty
hands and bodies like we never ever put like food

(43:39):
and bodies were never ever you know, like so many things.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
Yeah, whipped cream minds that a.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Thing, right, I mean like vegetables, you know, like there
things he are like, oh my god. But she taught
us that in this like journey of exploration, there's also
a huge disconnection. And through her like stories, I think

(44:09):
I was able to see that there's a lot of
power also in the womb. And through like her teachings,
I mean, we'll learn that life gets created. We learn
that also ideas get created. We learn that, like the
womb holds so much more than just babies.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Yeah, our creative energy for sure.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
So tell us why it's important to make sure our
womb is healthy.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Yeah, Well, the first thing I think of is something
Bunkeet Sunni said, which is, like your womb's job is
to be fertile, like whether you want to have babies
or not.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
And like.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
That's energetic too, girl, Like if you you know what
I mean, Like if your womb is not healthy, like
that is your energetic like abundance and you know, ability
to create. That's like your creative energy there. It's also
like you know, we have our own little like see

(45:15):
and system inside of us. It's like our own little
natural universe, like our own little system and moon cycle
inside of us.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
The cosmos is within us.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Yeah, exactly. It's like it's like a portal, you know.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
So yes, literally, women our portals.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Yeah, it's also like a reflection of our health. You know,
like if you're having severe pain, if you're having an
imbalance in your cycle, because it's like not just the
bleeding time, Like the bleeding time is like kind of
like your body's also way to communicate, you know, like
if it's really painful, it's your body being like.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Yo, you know, like we're not good, right, so.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Like you know your whole cycle, if there's cues from
your body, you know of like also resting at the
end of your cycle.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
You know, like we should we kind of moved through phases.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
We're not like men, Like men go through the same
thing every day, you know, it's just kind of like
one they're like at one level, they're not really changing
hormonally all the time.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
So we should be living like in that cycle.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
But like, because we live in capitalism, so many women
like are having to push through pain, having to push
through when they're supposed to be resting, I mean to
push through, you know, also in toxic patriarchy, dealing with
like mediocre men all the time and incompetent men that

(46:49):
don't take care of them, like when they're supposed to
be being taken care of and resting, you know, especially
at the end of your cycle and the start of
your bleeding time. And Indigenous people knew that, you know,
and they had rituals and ceremony and in ways of

(47:11):
practicing honoring your cycle. A big thing I think that
people don't realize too, is your gut and your womb interconnected.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
They are literally on top of each other.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
So if your gut's inflamed, your womb is squished and
probably also inflamed. Yes, So you know, like when I
go back to what I said about seed oils and
like us being poisoned, you know, women are going to
feel it the hardest because we have this additional organ

(47:46):
on the inside that needs like needs good digestion, and
we need to take care of our body, and like
the gut is just like everything. It's your immune system,
it's your second brain, you know. And it's also like
very intimately connected with your womb. Right, there's like a

(48:09):
knowing there and a connection.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yeah it's important, no, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
And yeah, as I got older, I started realizing just
how like women are just like expected to suffer. Yes,
like it's that is like the worst part of patriarchy
is like and then obviously, especially bipope, women are like
disproportionately affected by the medical system and systems of oppression

(48:40):
and poverty, so they're going to suffer way more and
they just have to like bear it, you know.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
So when I started studying herbalism, I found CBD, and
like this is why I'm like, well, cannabis has always
like been that bitch for me, like always as someone
with anxiety, like she was she was that girl.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
She wasn't there for me because she gave me more anxiety.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
But I respected Yeah, not for everyone.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
CBD was goodc was not not for everyone. Was like,
let me just make you more wild. But then CBD
was really kind and I was like, all right, we
live with it, with it.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Yeah, there's so many other ways to enjoy cannabis, not
just with TC my yeah, but my dad always used cannabis.
My Auela used cannabis. It's like it's been in Mexican
medicine like since everywhere the.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
Spanish brought it.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Yeah, they were like this ship's at a medio, like
you just put in some alcohol. Like I remember my
thea saying that they're like sprayed, Like it's a little spray.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
You're sprayed on your joints.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Yes, like you know, you make make a t like
but we always had this jar like and then you
would open it and it would be like so strong,
and they'd be like, oh no, it's me. It is
me plans you know, it's like for my joints. And
you're like, are you sure you just use it for

(50:13):
your joints. But it's one thing.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
Yeah, it's been.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Around for a long time.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, yeah, ever since the Spanish brought it here. Mexicans
were just like yeah, we're down.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Yeah. My Willa had cancer and like that was one
of the she died when I was young, and like
that was one of one thing I remember about going
to her house is like smelling weed. So from a
young age I was I was indoctrinated and I'm just kidding,

(50:49):
but yeah, she she had like really bad pain and nausea.
I think she had kidney cancer. Okay, so really bad
pains in there, and that was the only thing that
would help her and make.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Her feel wow better at all.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Like none of the medication helped or anything. So she
just us, she just used the.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Day and yeah, I bet she's proud now that I like,
I grow mad weed. So yeah, so that's why I
kind of I focused on cannabis in my.

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Herbalism work that I do.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
It does make it a little different, obviously, there's like
a lot of stigma. It can make it difficult to
like my Instagram account got deleted, like it makes it
difficult kind of in all ways.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
It just like adds.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
Another not recently, it was like it was like my
first Instagram account.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Because you talked about candidates because.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah, just posted mail CBD and like that's who. It's
so petty. I'm like, this is literally legal, like like
I have like you know, I have a license.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
You could look it up.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
And then there's people like literally selling TC sodas on
Instagram ads and I'm like, make a decision, Instagram, what.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
Are you doing?

Speaker 2 (52:20):
But yeah, it definitely adds a layer of difficulty into
just like you.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Know, having to navigate that or like payment processors don't
want to take it, you know.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Have to have like tests and stuff on the website
and have to have the license. But yeah, but I
love it. It's really like just such a gentle medicine.
But so I named my tincture that we make go
to Medio because like it's just like for everything.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
It's like anxiety, joint pain.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Feeling a little depressed, you know, indigestion, inflammation, you know,
just take a little a little seepe. And I designed
an intimacy oil as soon as I like came into
the world of cannabis because I was like, yo, people
put these like weed tampons in there for pain.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
And then I was like.

Speaker 2 (53:25):
That's gross though, Like I don't want to like pass
out like a little block of like lotion to like
come out of me like shade butter, like you know, yeah,
no kidding, Yeah, that's the whole thing. I was like,
can you can you just make some oil and like

(53:47):
put it in there, So I like started looking it up.
So you did, yeah, Because I like had had a
friend that made their own herbal lube and I was like, okay,
that's a thing, and yeah, so we designed and intimacy
oil with the CBD.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Just making sure you use like.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
A certain type of extraction and you don't like essentially
you don't use alcohol. You know, you don't want like
a solvent based extraction like propane or butane or alcohol
in there for your pH Like pH is sensitive, she's
sensitive in there, she is, and it has to be like, yeah,

(54:29):
everything has to be like sterilized, like sterilize the bottles,
you know, like more of a laboratory kind of extraction,
like with the vacuum we use like the vacuum pump
filtration Beubner funnel and wow.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Yeah. I was like, I'm so hyped about this.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
So okay because we're running out of time.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:50):
So for the people that are like, okay, this is interesting.
I have been dealing with pain. I have been dealing
with this, like trying to figure out womb digestion. Like
human with a uterus who's been medically neglected like we
all mostly have been, unless you have a genzy doctor,

(55:12):
which they're rare. But what would be like the first
three steps that you would recommend for people to reconnect first,
and then maybe I mean, of course we'll send them
to your store, but like something easy for them to
like start reconnecting back.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Yeah, So I'd say you first, like get grounded in
your body. So find a breathwork or a yoga practice
that you like. It doesn't have to be like crazy,
you know. I feel like people take a vignaca class
and they're like whoa. You know, it can be like
laying on a pill like a lot of time my

(55:53):
yoga practice, Like I lay on this pillow right here
with my legs in butterfly pose, and then maybe I
do child's pose and I'm like I'm good.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
I'm going for a walk yep. And then once or
twice a week I'll do you know, vinyasa.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
And then the next step would be I'd say, if
you're having a lot of pain, start tracking your cycle
like number one and use my friend Rachel's cycle journal.
I have a link in my Instagram profile. I'm pretty
sure if I if I update all my links with

(56:28):
my new profile.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Yeah, but she should be there either way.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
You're only going to figure out like what's going on
by tracking and seeing like okay, halfway through this whatever.
Also like writing down bad things I ate and did to.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
My body this month.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Yeah, so like all of the junk food you're eating,
all of the you know, doing weight workout when you're
right about to get your period and you knew you
don't have the energy for it, but you push yourself
through anyway, and it made you feel horrible, like write
those things down, you know, and that's how you'll start

(57:10):
to be like, Okay, you know, my body's asking for
rest at this time at the end.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Of my cycle.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
And then the third thing I would say is immediately
gut health. Recognize how much processed sugar you're eating. If
you can just cut it out, like go to a detox,
like get it out. If there's a lot, you can
switch to fruit, you know, like that's our that's our
natural sugar, fruit, our fast gas. Detoxing from sugar is

(57:43):
real though, like you it will suck. And yeah, if
it's like really bad, like if you have a candida
like infection or if you have you know, like a
parasite or something going on, the sugar detox, like your
body will be fucked up. Like you might have the friends, Yeah,
you might get a bunch of pimples.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
You might be detoxing. That's good. That means like.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Something's going on you need to get rid of that. Yeah,
and taking probiotics like Cartillo your probiotics every day if
you if you can, yogurt or Sauer kraup and yeah,
and then eating just whole foods like the seed oils. Again,

(58:31):
it sucks, it sucks, but they're in everything. So your
tortilla chips, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
No, chet everyone I know.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
If it's not avocado oil tortilla chips, no no, if
it's yeah, if it's the processed chips, and they they
really it's in everything, Like you really have to read
every ingredient. Sunflower oil, safflower oil, canola oil. Palm oil
is really really bad, that one, Like really, f's me

(59:02):
up if I accidentally have palm oil.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
It's so bad.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
It's so and it's like everywhere, and it's like in
the vegan food if you're trying to be vegan.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
It's like, oh, that's how I found out it was
so bad when I was vegan because I Trader Joe's
has this plantain chips and like literally I was like, oh,
these sorts of good, they taste so good. But then
like fifteen minutes later, my tummy is like, oh no,
but they ain't good for us. And then I looked

(59:31):
at the ingredients and the first thing is palm oil,
and I was like, oh my gosh, ye so sad.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Yeah, that is probably cutting out seed oils made the
biggest difference for my gut.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Like right away, I was like, oh, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Really that good of that. I was just inflame. Yes,
I was just inflamed crazy, you.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Know, crazy. So as an herbalist, besides CBD, what would
be some beginner herbs that you would recommend people to
like start playing with.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Yeah, some safe ones are red raspberry leaf if you're
not trying to get pregnant. Yeah, if you're not trying
to get pregnant, Chase Berry or Vitex Berry is gonna
balance your estrogen dominance. And I made a cycle balanced
team with Chaseberry and lemon Bum for like ani depress
it for PMDD especially and eventually soon I'll have it

(01:00:29):
as a supplement.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
Waiting for my Castle killer.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
But yeah, absolutely, red raspberry leaf yarrow is amazing. Again,
if you're not trying to get pregnant, yaro Euro balances
like your flows, like it helps if you're clotting.

Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
It helps if you bleed too.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Much, So it just kind of like balances things out
and then also detoxing your liver. So dandelion and burdock clover,
the detoxing herbs. Oh, and apple side of vinegar.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
It's like, hmm, I was waiting for that one. I
was like, the ACV.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
The ACV gummy is like such a hot trend with
all the white moms for a reason. It works so
good if you take it like right before you eat too.
It's so good for your gut.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
So what's what's the benefit of apple side of vinegar.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Yeah, so it's like a prebiotic and it it's like acidic,
so it's good to take it like right before you
eat it like helps your gut.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
Remember to be like acidic again.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Also, I just want to say all that bullshit about
like acidity diet and alkaline diet, Like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
You need protein. That's all I'm gonna say. Right, you
can't just eat greenleaves.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
All the things. Okay, So we have our beginner type
of blenditest to start playing with. Do you recommend people like, like,
for example, your your blend for the womb, is that
a daily thing. Is it right before during the cycle.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
Yeah, it depends on what you're going for. I have
a moon cycle tea that I make like raspberry leaf,
some anti inflammatory flowers like rose, lavender, and yarrow.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
That one is.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Like for all the time. Those are like pretty safe herbs. Again,
unless you're trying to get pregnant. The only one I
wouldn't take is yarrow. Red raspberry leaf is safe all
through pregnancy, helps prepare the uterus, strengthens the uterus. And
then I make a cycle balanced tea, So that would
be the Vitex vary which is really high in fidal estrogens,

(01:03:00):
so is soy and so it gets a bad rap
that it's going to like mess up your estrogen. Plants
have phyto estrogens, it's not estrogen. Phytoestrogens actually help balance
your estrogen, so if you have too much, that's what
Vitex berry does. And most women and people with universes
in this country I think have estrogen dominance from like

(01:03:22):
stress boost estrogen and then the gut health and liver
health like not being able to process.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Out the estrogen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Yeah, it just kind of like gets trapped there. And
then artificial fragrances mimic estrogen the body and boost estrogen.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
So and also artificial cycles, through artificial cycles, through chemical cycles,
through birth control.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Yeah, and then birth control too, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Yeah, well birth control is a whole other topic. Gets
I know, yeah, because it's like it's like you're taking
estrogen all the time. It's like not letting you have
her gesterone, so like then your body thinks you're supposed
to be estrogen all the time after a year, if
you use it for years this way, it's like, wow,

(01:04:17):
so many things to unpack. When Yeah, I was like
writing out my womb consulting questions because I just launched
like a holistic womb console service, and it's like, yeah,
that was one of the questions, Like have you been
on birth control because.

Speaker 1 (01:04:34):
It's like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
It's a big deal, so many of us are messed
up from that. And then for sure that's gonna probably
give you estrogen dominance. But yeah, that's cycle balance to
you take all month, and like with herbs, they're very gentle,
so you have to be consistent. It's not like, you know,
it's not like a pill that you just take once

(01:04:57):
you know when the problems are there, and hope that
it'll just.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Make them go away. It's like it's like a red
a ridge. I don't even know that word. Regime.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Oh like a like a yeah, like a consistent habit.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Yeah yeah, like a habit.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
So you take a regimented routine.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yeah yeah, So you have to commit to it like
a for at least a few months, and you know,
try and keep up with it as a consistent thing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
That's why I want to make supplements for it. It's
just so much easier.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
A lot of times it's hard to you know, even
make the time or have the energy to make the
tea batches, like getting a filter and like you know,
doing the thing and cleaning the dishes, like if you're
no diversion especially like that can be a lot. So
one thing I recommend is making like get the big
ball jars like these, the big one, and like make

(01:05:54):
a big one and then keep it in the fridge
and you can stay in the fridge like all week.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
I'm on the opposite side of I don't like taking pills,
but I have a very habitual This is why I
think I have AU somewhere in there, but definitely ADHD
and raspberry leaf tea. I it's what healed my cycle
and now I drink it every day, like there's I

(01:06:21):
cannot live without it because I noticed within like weeks
and yes, you have to make it consistent. So I
think as an avid tea drinker, I would say make
it a fun ritual. Yeah, you know, I infuse my

(01:06:45):
my tea every morning and it's part of my morning routine.
It's part of my tending to myself. And right now
I'm doing like a self guided program called Batanical and
Self Love, which is like making our summer full of
self love. And it's one of the Yeah, one of

(01:07:06):
the invites is to to ritualize your days. Why not
everything is ceremony like our people did everything through ceremony, Yeah,
cycling head ceremony, birthing head ceremony, marriage which wasn't marriage
but union head ceremony. So why couldn't our life be

(01:07:27):
ceremony every day?

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Yeah, that's indigenous wisdom for sure, just like being gratitude,
in gratitude for every part of the day and being present. Yeah,
especially if you can use like have like a cute
cup and like a cute strainer, make it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
There's so many ways to romanticize it, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
So tell us all the places in state in spaces
where we can find you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
So right now, I'm in the middle of kind of
launching my doula and bodywork services. I'm getting trained with
the massage studio, so I'm still like digitalizing this. I've
started taking my first in person clients and slowly will

(01:08:23):
be more online on Instagram TikTok Lunaschi and on my
website at lunaschi dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
That's XO c h I t L.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
I offer virtual postpartum doula coaching as well in Mexican
traditional medicine, and just started offering womb consults and still
offering yoga services.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
A lot of that I do mostly in community. I'm
trying to be more.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Of like a digital savvy millennial, right.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:10):
I have CBD products on my website as well to
take care of your body for PMS pain, for body care,
for joint pain, as well as some herbal remedies.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
And you ship.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Yeah, I ship to US and Canada, Okay, and yeah,
you can find me there. You can book a free
discovery call just to like find out about the things
I do. My offerings are very like holistic we might
pull some tarot cards and you know, lights of vicense

(01:09:49):
and make its ceremonious.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
Yeah, it could just be you know, just some like
general wellness guidance. It could be specifically for woomb, but
for people with uteruses, it's like it always comes back
to the womb and the woman is like also communicating
to us.

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
It reflects like all our all the time, our whole
body health.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
So yeah, mm hmmm. And the womb has its own
nervous system mm hmmm, just kind of wild.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
No, yeah, it also has endocannabinoid receptors in it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:28):
It's like, yeah, it's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
It's it's such a like it truly earlier when we
were talking about humans with with uterus, is it's a
whole galaxy in there. Yeah, yeah, it's really fun. So
last two questions, do you have a remedy that you
want to share with us? You give us a ton,
but what's something that you want to share with us?

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
Well, yeah, remelio that I always go to is suns sad.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
It's just like the classic whenever you're sick or even
just feeling like kind of down energy, it like boosts
your boosts your circulation just makes you feel better.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
You know. I feel like that is like a really
low key remedio that like says that dancing like salsa,
like the food like salsa. I know, salsa like eat salsa,
could just be any sauce, but yeah, like you know,
like spicy salsa.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Yeah, okay, that's a new one.

Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Yeah. My dad always just like gave that to us
when we were sick.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Yeah huh yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
But also if you're just feeling like, you know, like
a little down, a little sad, it boosts your energy,
like ones with peppers.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
In it, you know, give you that little of course
little fire.

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
Yeah nice. Yeah, And do you have a quarta mantra
that you limpy that you want to share with us?

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
Something that comes to mind is just as saying that
Mexicans have that our people will live on in flowers
and songs, and yeah, I feel like that's just so
beautiful and just reminds me of just like the legacy
of indigenous people, like we have been.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
On this land, you know, we've been here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
We like we evolve with plants, like we evolve together,
like us tending those plants and like domesticating them, like
we changed their evolution and they changed ours like they
healed us. You know, like there wouldn't be chocolate without
Mexicans that cultivated the plant. That wouldn't be corn, There

(01:12:42):
wouldn't be you know, potatoes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
To make bachos, wouldn't exist without us.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
Right yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
So yeah, and also just kind of that legacy of
preserving our culture, our people through our metas you know,
our plant medicines, and also not just our songs and ceremonies,
but like stories are you know the plebs, like the sayings,

(01:13:11):
the beliefs, the words. So that yeah, that really sticks
with me. The more that we can share our songs,
share our medicines with each other and and keep it going,
you know, like leaving that legacy, Like don't just like
let it be in your head, you know, like write books,

(01:13:33):
write Instagram posts, whatever it is for you, write your
substec blogs.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
But yeah, like keep it going. It's meant to be
shared as a culture. It's not not something just to
let die.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Makes me As you were sharing, this made me think
of that phrase they try to bury its, but they
didn't know we were seats. Yeah, thank you so much
for sharing and sharing space with us, ensuring you're you're
wisdom with us and for your work. I'll be ordering
some things from your shop soon. And we also have

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a code right for listeners. Yes, so if you want
a little discount love from lun we'll drop the link
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Yeah, I get twenty persons off.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Thank you, thank you for being here.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
And so nice to meet you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
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