November 24, 2024 • 49 mins
Is it possible that a single antioxidant could revolutionize your health? Tune in to Chat Off the Mat as we host Dr. Gina Nick, a world-renowned naturopathic physician, researcher, and formulator, who unravels the transformative power of glutathione. Discover how Dr. Gina's childhood dream of becoming a doctor evolved into a pioneering career in naturopathic medicine and nutritional supplements, including her significant role at Standard Process Nutrition, where she developed groundbreaking detox programs.
Throughout the episode, Dr. Gina explains the crucial functions of glutathione in our bodies, especially its impacts on detoxification, liver health, and inflammation reduction. Learn about the symptoms of glutathione deficiency and how modern toxin exposure is affecting our health. Dr. Gina dives deep into the intricate relationship between gut health and glutathione, giving insights on how maintaining adequate levels of this antioxidant can support mental health, aid recovery from alcohol addiction, and promote general well-being.
The conversationtouches on the benefits of glutathione for athletes, children, and anyone looking to enhance their vitality. Dr. Gina shares practical advice on natural food sources rich in glutathione and the importance of reducing sugar intake. From eye health and cellular protection to enhanced skin vitality, this episode covers it all. Dr. Gina's expertise and passion for making glutathione accessible is inspiring, and her insights can help you take actionable steps to optimize your health.
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Today.
On Chat Off the Mat, I welcomeDr Gina Nick.
Dr Gina is a world-renownednaturopathic physician,
researcher and formulator basedin Newport Beach, California.
She's a leading authority onthe prevention and treatment of
brain diseases, autoimmunediseases, inflammation,
addiction recovery, depression,anxiety, fatigue, weight gain
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and sexual dysfunction.
After graduating medical school, dr Gina went on to become the
first director of research forthe world's top supplement
company, where she was chargedwith the task of creating and
growing the department for whatnow is a multi-billion dollar
company.
Dr Gina is also the executivehealthcare consultant to local
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and government agencies.
President emeritus of theCalifornia Naturopathic Doctors
Association and founder andmedical director of HealthBridge
Newport, where she earned topmedical practice, she is here
today to discuss the powerbehind the supplement of
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glutathione.
Welcome, Dr.
Gina Nick, thank you.
Thank you, thanks for beinghere.
I'm so excited about this topic.
Uh, can you just tell us alittle bit about yourself first
and what brought you to uh, tohelping people through your
product?
Dr. Gina (02:26):
How long do you have?
I know right, it's like my lifestory brought me here.
Yeah, really yeah.
When I was in undergrad well,rewind, since I was in
elementary school, I alwayswanted to be a doctor period.
I wanted to be a doctor and Iwanted to learn how to take care
of animals and learn how towrite a book, and then I wanted
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to tap dance on the side so Ididn't get bored.
That was it and I would talkabout it.
I mean, that's what I'm doing.
And so here we are.
So I always wanted to be adoctor.
And then, when I was inundergrad at UCLA, my honors
academic counselor said Gina, Iwas going to pre-med track, just
allopathic medicine, going tobecome a doctor.
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And he gave me a brochure for anaturopathic medical school.
And I was like, what's that?
Because I was always off, youknow, researching nutrition and
I was just very interested inlifestyle and diet and
supplements.
I was just fascinated by it.
And so he gave me this brochure, I researched it.
I'm like what?
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I can be a doctor, but I canactually practice.
What I really feel in my heartof hearts is what I'm supposed
to be doing and what I'm mostinterested in, and that was it.
I never looked back.
So I ended up going to anaturopathic medical school.
I ended up going to anaturopathic medical school one
of the few accreditednaturopathic medical schools in
the country in Arizona and justfast forward, I was always
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fascinated with supplements andso I was always hired by
nutritional supplement companiesto formulate and to educate
doctors on the use ofsupplements.
And then I was hired as thedirector of research for
Standard Process Nutrition,which is one of the oldest
nutritional supplement companiesin the country that caters to
healthcare practitioners andthey sell their products
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worldwide.
And I created a purificationprogram while I was there that's
still in existence today, youknow, 20 years later, yeah, and
so that kind of started my wholepath on using nutritional
supplements and formulatingsupplements and getting that
information out there.
And then when I started my ownmedical practice at a little
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practice in Laguna Beach,california, and I had, one of my
first patients was actually aformer drug addict and I had
done all the naturopathic thingswith him detoxification and
nutrition and all the things butI'd also given him glutathione
in injection form and he saidyou know, of all the things that
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you've given me, glutathionehas had the most profound effect
, and so that kind of like stuckwith me, you know, and so fast
forward, and I had you know, Igot to be known for
detoxification, for puttingpeople on detoxification
programs, because that wasreally real passion of mine.
And so I was hired by a companywho made a form of glutathione
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that was clinically researchedand proven to boost blood levels
.
And the challenge withglutathione is that it has to be
either injected or it doesn'tget very well absorbed when you
take it orally, and so noteverybody wants to get an
injection.
And there's a form calledliposomal that I would use in my
practice because that has gooddata showing it actually does
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work, but it tasted horrible soI couldn't get people to stay on
it.
And I have a nephew who hasautism and I kept telling my
sister you need to give himglutathione, but how are we
going to give it to him?
Because I didn't want to givehim injections and he wasn't
going to take this grossliposomal form, and so that
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planted another seed for me andI started researching
glutathione in my practice andusing it with patients and I'm
like this is amazing.
Yeah, I really.
It really forced me to do adeep dive into just glutathione
and I realized there's over ahundred thousand published
clinical studies on the use ofthis master antioxidant, and so
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this is incredible.
And then I was giving a lecturein London at the International
Congress of NaturopathicMedicine.
There were like 600practitioners from all over the
world there and only a fractionof them even knew what
glutathione was.
And I was talking aboutglutathione and detoxification,
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inflammation, and I'm likethat's it.
I'm going to make glutathione ahousehold name.
Everybody needs to know aboutthis.
It's the mother of allantioxidants.
It's so amazing for the body,naturally occurring in the body,
but it's so powerful, and so Idecided then I'm going to do
this.
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And then COVID hit and I washome homeschooling my daughter
and going and doing patientvisits with all the garb on.
No, we didn't know what COVIDwas and we were all just freaked
out.
But I noticed that glutathionewas helping a lot.
I was giving injections to mypatients and then a study came
out saying that glutathione canhelp prevent a severe reaction
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to COVID, and so I said I wantto.
I want to create a glutathionethat tastes good, has no sugar
in it, you know it doesn't haveany of the bad stuff in it,
because I'm a supplement snobhas to be like pure as pure can
be, but I want it to taste goodenough for kids to take it.
You know it doesn't have any ofthe bad stuff in it.
Because I'm a supplement snobhas to be like pure as pure can
be, but I want it to taste goodenough for kids to take it.
And so I decided to create aformula.
I sent it to the lab, got itback and on the first go it
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tasted amazing.
I had kids taking it, everybodyloved it and that was it.
So, through a lot of blood,sweat, tears, I created the
company and we have pixie sticksfor kids and for adults.
They taste great.
It's sweetened with glycine.
So that was.
I woke up one morning and I'mlike that's it.
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I'm going to sweeten this withglycine because glycine is an
amino acid that I would.
When I formulate products formy patients I'll just do custom
formulas for them I would oftenuse glycine to sweeten it
because I didn't want to use anyjunk, because my patients
needed the opposite of that, youknow.
And so, and glycine is one ofthe amino acids found in
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glutathione.
So it was also going to helpwith the additional manufacture
of it, anyway, so that.
So that's that you know.
And here we are.
I have a like a kid's pixiestick, an adult pixie stick, and
I really wanted it to besomething that tasted as good as
candy kind of.
Got delivered in a form similarto candy, but that was truly
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good for you and good for kidsyou know packaging, packaging
can go a long way.
Rose (09:05):
You know sometimes the form and the delivery.
You know and the flavor theflavor.
Dr. Gina (09:10):
So I have, I was giving it to my patients.
I have a capsule form of bestdaily ever.
It's called formula one.
So I was giving them capsules,but for kids.
You know I wanted it to be, youknow, in a form that kids could
take.
And then I thought, well, noteverybody wants to take capsules
, especially women.
Like, as we go through thathairy menopause, menopause phase
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and estrogen levels go down, Alot of women have trouble
swallowing pills.
Rose (09:36):
I didn't know that, oh yeah.
Oh, now I know why I havetrouble swallowing pills.
Dr. Gina (09:41):
Well, estrogen is like the hydration hormone and so
you know you even affect.
So anyway, I'm like why nothave this in a powdered form?
I would like to be able to justput it in my water or just take
it, you know, because I take itall the time, right.
And so I made it for adults tosame formula, just a different
dosage for adults.
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Wow.
Rose (10:03):
So that's, that's a great story, and you follow your
passion and here you are, andlet's talk about what
glutathione is, if you can.
I mean, I have it here, but ifyou can, just let us know what
that is.
So we'll circle back to that.
Dr. Gina (10:16):
So I refer to it as the mother of all antioxidants.
So it really it truly is.
It is found in every one ofyour trillions of cells, so it's
manufactured by the body and itbasically an antioxidant
basically means that it, like,neutralizes free radicals, free
radical, render them inactive orhelp to clear them out of the
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body.
What's so amazing aboutglutathione is that it is
essential for what's calledphase two detoxification, and so
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your body, your body's detoxingat all times, 24 seven.
You know all your cells aredetoxing all the time and I find
that fascinating.
You know that.
You know that we have thishuman detoxification system.
That is so.
I mean, it's found throughoutthe body.
There are a lot of differentorgan systems involved and our
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bodies are actively takingtoxins and converting them into
a form that can get eliminatedfrom our bodies.
You know, day in and day out,24 seven.
So to me, that says okay, thisis a really important thing.
It's really important to ourhealth and wellbeing.
Well, glutathione is so key tothat, to supporting your body's
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natural detoxificationmechanisms.
Rose (11:46):
Yeah, I have.
I did a little research and itsays that it's produced by the
liver and the liver is kind oflike the main organ for
detoxification.
Everybody's not everybody, butthere's a lot of people who like
to do these liver detoxes.
Whether they're safe or they dothem safely, I don't know, but
it is involved in tissuebuilding and repair right and
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helping the body to detox.
Dr. Gina (12:09):
Absolutely and so your liver is considered like your
main detox organ, butglutathione is manufactured in
all your cells.
It's just there's more in theliver because the liver is one
of those main detox organs.
The liver is one of those maindetox organs, but your skin is a
major detox organ.
Your colon, kidneys, lymphaticsystem those are all part of the
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human detoxification system.
Rose (12:34):
Yeah, what are some of the symptoms of a deficiency in
glutathione?
Dr. Gina (12:41):
So one thing is people who drink alcohol having an
intolerance.
So when you have a hangover,technically you can prevent the
hangover by taking glutathione.
I'm not an advocate fordrinking alcohol.
It's a neurotoxin.
My patients don't like it whenI say that to them, but it's
true especially for women.
Women have even more difficultymetabolizing alcohol.
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It's not your friend.
However, for those people thatdo drink alcohol and are
particularly sensitive, or theynotice over time they're more
sensitive to alcohol, that's asign because glutathione is
essential for detoxificationwhen you have neuroinflammation.
So what's that?
Inflammation in the brain?
So when that happens symptomsof like long COVID, for example
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that's neuroinflammation.
You have fatigue, foggythinking, even symptoms of
attention deficit disorder andautism are correlated with
neuroinflammation.
Cognitive decline, evenAlzheimer's disease.
Rose (13:41):
You mentioned.
Alzheimer's.
Dr. Gina (13:43):
Yes, and so all of these things are tied to
neuroinflammation andglutathione.
This is interesting.
This is a way to know.
There's a lot of things thatcan cause all of those
conditions.
Obviously right, and thosesymptoms, but in the brain
there's less of a concentrationof glutathione than in the rest
of the body, and so it makes thebrain more vulnerable to
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exposure to toxins.
Yeah, and so when you areexposed to toxins, it can
deplete the glutathione that isin your brain and that can lead
to neuroinflammation.
You can even there's animalstudies where they can produce
like symptoms of Alzheimer'sdisease and Parkinson's disease
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by depleting glutathione fromthe.
Yeah, and so that's why I'msuch a huge, you know, taking
some glutathione daily tosupport your body's ability to
detoxify and protect your brain,which is more vulnerable to
exposure to toxins.
So, and then also inflammation.
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So achy joints, you know, canbe tied to this, what I call
silent inflammation, you know.
So it's not like inflammation,like if you have a bug bite and
it's red and it's inflamed.
That's one.
This is silent inflammation.
So it's insidious, it'shappening throughout your body
but you can't like pinpoint itto one specific area.
It's just kind of generalizedinflammation.
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So glutathione will help lowerthat.
So when you have generalizedinflammation, you'll have achy
joints, things like foggythinking, fatigue, Um, a lot of
the symptoms tied toperimenopause and menopause
sleeping difficulties, weightgain in the midsection, mood
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swings, hot flashes, hot flashesfor sure, mood swings those are
all tied to that phase andthose can all be associated with
less glutathione than your bodyneeds.
Yes, right and so, and a lot ofpeople will say well, look, your
body makes it on its own, sowhy do you need to take it Right
, like if your body naturallymanufactures it and it has to do
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with?
I don't think our bodies haveevolved to the point of I really
my.
My truth is we're exposed to aheck of a lot more toxins than
we are aware of, and so that'sjust a gut feeling and based and
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paired with a ton of researchand experience.
You know, as a naturopathicphysician, over 20 years, and so
our bodies are have anincreased demand for glutathione
, which is the main way that ourbody detoxifies from all that
stuff.
Rose (16:32):
Right, I agree with you.
I think that there's a lot moreout there that is depleting us
on so many levels and that ourbodies can't keep up.
And you're seeing more chronicissues, chronic pain, chronic
fatigue, anything like peoplecoming up with fibromyalgia or
Parkinson's, more autism, so somany more of these chronic
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illnesses that are coming up andwe're like, why is there?
You know, why are thesehappening?
Why is this all happening?
Very interesting, I know you do.
In your book, you also talkabout the microbiome.
Yes, um, can you talk a littlebit about the?
I know that's also aterminology.
People write book about the gutand the microbiome.
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Can you talk about therelationship between microbiome
and glutathione?
Dr. Gina (17:20):
Yeah, so the gut microbiome is basically like all
of the good bacteria, badbacteria, happening in this
whole ecology in your gut, thiswhole ecosystem in your gut, and
so when you're exposed toantibiotics, which can be
lifesaving, it can strip yourbody of the good stuff too, not
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just the bad stuff.
When you're exposed to certaintoxins that can kill off the
good stuff and increase the badstuff in that whole gut
microbiome.
And glutathione helps to offsetthat.
So it helps to protect the gutmicrobiome from that imbalance
that occurs where all of asudden you have too much bad
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stuff paired to the good stuff,right, and so it helps to
protect, you know, the gut fromharm caused by viruses, bacteria
, mold.
It's a big one, it impacts themicrobiome significantly and
glutathione helps to protect youfrom that.
Rose (18:25):
And in the gut they're saying it's like your second
brain or another brain, but it'salso helps with your immune
system.
So glutathione helps tostrengthen our immune system,
which can also be affected byantibiotics and just lifestyle
Right 70% of your immune system,essentially, is housed in your
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gut.
Dr. Gina (18:49):
Wow, yeah, and so glutamine.
Glutamic acid is one of thecomponents in glutathione, and
that's one of the primary fuelsfor this.
They're called intestinalenterocytes cells in your gut.
It's what they use to functionright, and so you're basically
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feeding the good stuff to keepyour gut healthy.
Rose (19:15):
That's great, and there's also a lot of people are now
suffering as well fromstomach-related issues like IBS,
gluten intolerance, celiac allthese things that perhaps
glutathione can help with oroffset or maybe help manage a
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little better, maybe not make itas intense.
Dr. Gina (19:38):
Yes, yeah, for sure.
I mean it's supporting yourimmune system.
It's also even for autoimmuneconditions, like when you say
like celiac, or like Hashimoto'sthyroiditis, which can be very
tough to treat.
glutathione can help treat thatwhere there's not a lot of
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things that can, so it can avoida gluten.
But in terms of just helpingwith any gut-related issues, but
then any alsoautoimmune-related issues,
glutathione plays an importantrole and so it sounds like the
best thing since sliced bread.
But I'm like it kind of is.
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And I coined the phrase vitaminG because it's as important, if
not more important, thanvitamin C, and we all know
vitamin C is used for so manythings.
You know it's for immunefunction, but it helps with
blood sugar balance, helps withadrenal gland function.
Vitamin C is so critical tooverall health and well-being,
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so is vitamin G and theyactually work together.
Glutathione and vitamin C workhand in hand.
They kind of they cycle betweenone another, so they support
each other, which is why I putvitamin C in the formula also.
Rose (20:55):
So it's a team, they work together.
Yeah, I remember when vitamin Cwas just like the only
supplement.
Dr. Gina (20:59):
you know, years ago you got to take vitamin C, you
got to take.
Rose (21:02):
That was it.
There was nothing like maybethere were other things I wasn't
aware of, but I mean, I've beenaround a while, so it's.
You know, vitamin D and there'sall these other supplements now
and there's just almost so manyI know.
Dr. Gina (21:14):
But you know it gets overwhelming, it gets so
overwhelming, and that's where I, you know, at this point it's
like I want to like, cut to thechase.
Okay, what, like?
If you're going to take onething, what would it be?
And that's hard to answer,right.
Rose (21:26):
Yeah.
Dr. Gina (21:26):
Because every human is different, everybody's
different.
Yes, right.
Rose (21:29):
You know I was thinking when you were talking about
people who drink alcohol.
I stopped, I quit a year agoyeah, Good, and I'm thinking
like this can help with peoplewho stop drinking to help maybe
eliminate, alleviate some of thepost-symptoms that they get and
help to detox the body.
Dr. Gina (21:55):
Yes, oh, yeah, and help to repair the liver and
repair it as well.
Rose (21:57):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely , yeah.
So all those people out therethat are thinking about not
drinking, or started notdrinking or want to stop
drinking, this is something thatyou could consider taking to
help you, because it's not aneasy process to go through.
After you stop drinking, yourbody just reacts like in all
ways.
Dr. Gina (22:16):
And it's addictive right.
And so glutathione is used foraddiction.
I told you my first, one of myfirst patients I ever had,
that's where it all, where thiswhole thing with me and
glutathione started, was then.
And so glutathione is used foraddiction treatment.
It helps a lot, and so there'smore going on than it's just
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detoxifying it's also it'slowering neuroinflammation, it's
helping to rebalance brainchemistry.
So you don't have that as muchof a need to self-medicate
because maybe you're feelingbetter you know Right, and
depression.
Rose (22:55):
There's like that, you know, people with chemical
imbalances and with mentalillness, mental health issues.
Perhaps that also can help,cause I know I've suffered from
mental health in the past.
I had depression and was givena.
I don't even remember back thenwhat they were called, I don't
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think they're even marketedanymore or made but they, I was
told they helped to balance outthe chemicals in my brain, which
did help, you know.
But then I went off of thembecause I don't like to be
anything long-term.
So.
But they were not, they wereprescription, which I would have
preferred to have something alittle bit more natural.
Dr. Gina (23:34):
So here I actually founded the Brain Health and
Mental Wellness Foundation.
Oh, wow, so yeah, andglutathione is intertwined with
that, because I feel likeeverybody should have access to
glutathione and I know that ithelps to lower neuroinflammation
and brain inflammation.
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And inflammation in the braincan trigger symptoms of
depression, anxiety, addiction,obsessive compulsive disorder.
A lot of your different mentalhealth challenges can be helped
by lowering inflammation in thebrain.
And what's really interesting,so there's something called
sickness syndrome where, if youhave inflammation in the rest of
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your body right, so and likethere are things called
interleukins they'reinflammation chemicals, right?
So let's say, interleukin-4 iscirculating in your body because
you were exposed to a virus oryou had a stress reaction or for
whatever reason, you've gotthat particular inflammatory
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molecule circulating in yourbody.
Guess what happens?
Your brain will start to makethat same inflammatory molecule
that the rest of your body ismaking.
It'll mimic it, right, and thereason for that is probably
protective.
It's like oh okay, there'ssomething happening.
We need to protect the brain.
So we're going to create thisinflammatory molecule, which can
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be a good thing because yourbody will produce those, your
immune system will produce thoseto fight off infection, right,
but it goes out of control.
And here's what we found waswhen that inflammation starts to
happen in the brain, that'swhat triggers things like
depression, anxiety, you know.
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So when you get like the fluand you've kind of feel down and
you know kind of like you justwant to stay in bed, well, that
makes sense that the body wouldbe designed that way.
It'll keep you away from goinggoing out and, you know,
socializing a bunch of peopleand and spreading your germs
everywhere else, right.
So it makes sense that youwould get have kind of a
depressed state of being rightas a protective mechanism to
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keep you home and keep youstationary until you're better.
But things aren't balancedthese days, right, and so that
inflammation is going on andit's kind of out of control and
you feel depressed becausethere's inflammation happening
in the body, and you'llappreciate this.
So what they found was, um,there's something called the
vagus nerve right running.
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Yeah, okay, a lot of.
There's a lot of talk about thevagus vagus nerve now yes well,
there were studies done.
If you sever the vagus nerve,you disconnect the vagus nerve
activity.
Okay, guess what?
The brain won't make those sameinflammatory molecules that
your body's making.
So it's like that's theconnection, okay, the vagus
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nerve.
And so then what do you do?
It's called regulating vagaloutput.
How do you regulate vagaloutput?
Yoga, right, you know, qigong,acupuncture, meditation, breath
work the things that a lot ofpeople are talking about these
days helps to make it so thatyou don't have as much
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inflammation in the brain.
So bagel output is whatconnects the body to the brain
in that way, from this thingcalled sickness syndrome.
Wow, yeah, and so that's awhole different way to look at
mental health issues.
It's another thing to consider.
If somebody has depression,anxiety, et cetera, are we
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really looking at?
Is there inflammation happening, and what are some basic steps
you can take to lowerinflammation?
How much does that impact?
Mood Hormone deficiency willcause inflammation too.
Stress.
Rose (27:31):
Oh, it does.
Dr. Gina (27:31):
Yeah, yeah, estrogen deficiency will trigger
inflammation.
Rose (27:35):
Interesting.
So as a woman gets older andthe estrogen depletes, or she's
on some kind of medication thatlowers the estrogen, like I was
for breast cancer then itincreases inflammation anywhere,
right?
Dr. Gina (27:51):
It increases systemic inflammation.
It triggers the inflammatorycascade in the body.
Yeah, a lot of people don'tknow that and that's where
having hormone balance becomesimportant.
And also, but if you're on likean estrogen blocker or you know
, you're going through thatperimenopause and menopause
phase and you're not takingsomething to help balance it out
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, so you're not deficient, youknow, like truly deficient in
the hormones.
Something like glutathione thatlowers inflammation and lowers
inflammation in the brain canhelp to offset those symptoms.
Rose (28:27):
Do you know that one of the I'm having a brain fog and I
was just going to say somethingabout brain fog One of the
symptoms or the risk of takingtamoxifen not risk, what's the
word?
Side effect, side effect, thankyou Is brain fog.
Yeah, oh yeah, and you know I'mnot.
Luckily I'm not on it anymore,but it would have been nice to
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know about this back then.
They would have caused, youknow, me to have a better brain
function at the time.
So I will definitely tell myfriends who are on Tamoxifen
about this for sure.
Oh, wow, well, interesting.
Dr. Gina (29:02):
But always I say, if you are on any chemotherapeutic
agent, always work with yourprescriber and make sure that
they are educated and know whatto recommend for you In terms of
antioxidants.
There's some controversy onusing certain antioxidants when
you're on chemotherapy.
Rose (29:21):
Right, definitely be safe and ask your physician, of
course.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'd like to ask if there arefood sources of glutathione and
I only ask this just foreducating everyone here and I
know that if you tell me it'sbroccoli, then we have to eat
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like a ton of broccoli.
Maybe this will also encouragepeople to eat their veggies.
But if you can, let us knowwhat some of the food sources
are, absolutely.
Dr. Gina (29:54):
Yeah.
So avocados, broccoli, yourgreen vegetables, spinach,
peaches, cherries, those aresome good sources.
I mean mean even red meat hasglutathione in it, and so
there's a lot of differentsources in our diet for, for,
for getting some glutathione.
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The question is yes.
Is it going to be enough?
And if you're having symptoms,I always say start with diet.
Clean up your diet first.
You, your diet and yourdrinking is going to work better
.
You know, I mean you don't haveto, but if you want the biggest
bang for your buck, you know,address diet and lifestyle first
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and then, if you're stillhaving symptoms, you know and
you're, you're not feeling ahundred percent and you're
wanting to take more actionintroducing.
You know, if you're going tointroduce an antioxidant, I
recommend glutathione in a formthat is actually absorbed in the
body, you know, to helpsupplement for what you maybe
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you're not getting in your dietor that your body's not
manufacturing on its own Right.
Rose (31:01):
And also if you're a type of person who eats a lot of
sweets, that creates a lot ofinflammation on the body as well
.
I mean, sugar is an epidemic, Ithink.
Dr. Gina (31:14):
Don't get me started on sugar.
I won't.
No, no, no.
But, it's really, and it's oneof the reasons why I made these
kids pixie sticks.
I wanted to swap out the sugar,you know.
So you see, these kids.
I mean I have a young daughter,she'll be 12.
And it's like when I see what'sin the candy that these kids
are given.
You know, I can't controlwhat's happening outside my home
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a hundred percent.
Right, you can't, and you haveto kind of let it be, but it's
horrible.
It is horrible.
What these kids are given ishorrible.
What the grocery manufacturersassociation allows to be
produced to, that's marketed tokids.
Because sugar is, um, is, is isextremely addictive.
Um, it acts on the opioidsystem in the body.
(31:56):
It feeds the bad bacteria inthe gut.
When you talk about the gutmicrobiome, right, alters the
gut microbiome significantlylong term, you know, and so it
feeds.
It feeds the bad stuff.
It also competes for bindingsites with vitamin c.
C is like, essential for immunefunction and works with
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glutathione.
You know they work together.
But, um, just sugar, itincreases.
Obviously we all know it causesobesity and things like that.
But it also just affects achild's brain significantly and
our kids need support in thatarea now more than ever because
they're under more stress with,you know, social media and all
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the stress going on in the worldright now, going on in the
world right now.
Rose (32:43):
Our kids need to be clear thinking, you know, grounded,
focused, you know and clear onwhat they're doing here you know
, and not addicted to sugar andvideo games, and because that
can create the imbalances of thebrain, like you said.
Right, just just yeah.
And you see a lot of issuesthat kids are having in school
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and I don't know.
I just it's important that wework with the kids, because the
kids are our future.
How does this also help withpeople who are very active, like
athletes, people who work outconstantly?
You know, maybe they're workingout so much that they're
actually depleting themselves inother areas that they're not
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aware of?
How can glutathione help withbaby recovery or something like
that?
Dr. Gina (33:30):
Oh, it does help.
It helps significantly withrecovery and athletes, my
athletes, see it, they, theyexperience it, you know.
And so because it lowersinflammation, I mean it just it
helps to offset the impacts oflactic acid, but it also, I mean
it has such a systemic effect.
You know that it's just, it'soptimizing performance of the
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human body.
You know, when you, when yourglutathione levels are balanced
and you and things are workingefficiently in that way and your
detox mechanisms are workingefficiently, your ability to,
you know, push yourselfathletically goes way up, way up
.
And so it's, it's, it'sdefinitely helpful for
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performance athletes.
You know they use it too andit's not, you know it's not a
drug, it's so yeah, and but they, but it's definitely beneficial
for supporting just enduranceand speeding up recovery after
workouts.
Rose (34:29):
Yeah, recovery, especially as you get older, and I know a
lot of people who are older anddo a lot of things that they
want to do that they were ableto do when they were younger,
and they get injured and thenthey don't recover as quickly,
and then they get frustrated andcreate this whole cycle of I
don't know just this madnesswithin themselves, but this is
good to know.
Dr. Gina (34:49):
That's unnecessary.
Rose (34:51):
Yeah, it is unnecessary.
Yeah, Is there anybody thatshould not take it?
Dr. Gina (35:00):
So I'm I, you know.
I always say work if you have adiagnosed condition, work with
your healthcare practitioner,you know to before you take any
supplements.
So before you, because you knowit's always better to partner
with a qualified healthcarepractitioner, somebody who knows
what supplements are and isfamiliar with using them, you
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know, work with an educatedpractitioner.
You know, work with an educatedpractitioner.
And so I would say always, ifyou have a diagnosed condition,
to to run this by your doctorfirst.
You know, and just make sureit's it's a doctor that you have
a trusted relationship withthat has education in the use of
supplements, you know, yeah.
Rose (35:44):
I have an acupuncturist I work with and she graduated as a
um, not just an acupuncturist.
Oh my gosh, I'm having suchbrain fog today.
But anyway, she knows all thesupplements, all the medication
and she will tell you like thisworks for you, this doesn't work
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for you.
So I kind of I trust that andyou know she's never really said
like this doesn't work.
But it's just be mindful of howyou're feeling.
Like anything you takesomething.
If it starts to not feel right,for whatever reason, you pause
or you look at all the otherthings that you're doing in your
life and kind of rule thingsout.
You know kind of just make sure, because you know your own body
(36:27):
.
Dr. Gina (36:27):
Yes, yes, it's like I'm always telling patients you
know your body better thananybody else ever will.
You know, you partner withexperts, you listen to podcasts,
you educate yourself, you trythings, you know and, at the end
of the day, you got to go backto your own source.
You know and go within and getconnected there, because there's
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a wealth of knowledge thereabout what's going to be best
for you Right, and so that helpsto guide you to the right
practitioners, to the rightsupplements, the right whatever
it is.
You need to just continue onyour path, and so that's.
Rose (37:04):
Yeah, it's just like I didn't know about glutathione
and now I do, and now it openedup a whole new world for me and,
I hope, for my listeners aswell.
I want to talk about somethingthat for me, eye health is
important, and I've beenstarting to wear glasses more
and I've been starting to thinkabout this.
I'm like, do I really needglasses all the time?
Every time I go to the eyedoctor, they're giving me a new
prescription.
(37:25):
Do I really need the increasedprescription?
And I know I've heard you sayor I've read that this also
helps with eye health.
Dr. Gina (37:33):
Yep, it does.
Toxins.
When your eyes are exposed totoxins, it causes a thickening
of the lens and it compromiseseyesight.
So if you're taking glutathioneand there is glutathione in
your eyes, you're preventing theeffects of toxins on your eyes
(37:59):
and just think cellular damage,right?
So keep it simple.
Our body's made up of all ofthese trillions of cells, right?
Every one of those cells haswhat's called a mitochondria
powerhouse of the cell.
That's where energy is produced.
It's also where the DNA, youknow, is housed.
(38:19):
And interest, I find when Irealized this, I found it so
interesting.
It's also where toxins tend tocongregate.
They tend to congregate in themitochondria of the cells, where
the DNA is housed, you know,and other things, and when they
congregate there they causedamage, right, DNA damage,
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cellular damage that causesdysfunction in the body.
So when you take glutathione,or you have sufficient
glutathione in your cells andit's getting into the
mitochondria, it's protectingthe powerhouse of your cells
from exposure to those toxins.
So any organ in your bodythat's going to be attacked.
Rose (39:06):
And I know, according to traditional Chinese medicine,
the liver is associated with theeyes.
Dr. Gina (39:14):
Yeah.
Rose (39:20):
So I love that connection and I'm looking to improve my
eyesight.
Dr. Gina (39:23):
So and it's not too late.
Rose (39:24):
No, oh gosh yeah, it's no, because I'm telling you I was.
I'm so drawn to this.
I, I, I want to learn moreabout how I can reverse.
I know I think you were on anepisode on somebody's podcast,
yeah, and I found her and I'mactually I want to talk to her
about being on the show, abouteyesight and how we can improve
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our eyesight.
Dr. Gina (39:46):
Yes, Claudia, yeah, yeah.
Rose (39:48):
Claudia.
Dr. Gina (39:49):
Yeah, she's amazing and so she's the expert when it
comes to everything you can doto help to reverse any issues
with eyesight.
But the body, your body'salways trying to get back to a
state of homeostasis or balance.
It's always working for you toget to that place of health and,
(40:11):
yes, it you can't.
You know we're all gonna growup, we're all gonna.
You know that that's happening,no matter what Right.
But it's very doable and verypossible to optimize your health
as you go on your path so thatyou, you, can have your best,
you know best life.
Feel your best and have yourbest life and, you know, enjoy
(40:33):
and not succumb to differentannoying symptoms all the time,
right or to be fixated on that.
And so just remember, yourbody's always trying to get to
that state of balance.
Give it what it needs andremove any barriers to cure.
Remove any as best you can, andthat's what you go to.
Healthcare practice, you learn,et cetera.
Remove any of the blocks Couldbe a trauma block, it could be
(40:58):
stress, it could be toxins, butwhatever you can to remove any
barriers to cure, and then yourbody is brilliant.
It's brilliant, just likenature is brilliant.
Rose (41:10):
It is, you're right.
Yeah, that's, I love that.
So as we age as well a lot ofwomen, you know we lose collagen
in our bodies and we get alittle bit of like, maybe like
wrinkles, here and there, and wedon't feel as good in our skin.
Does it help with the skin?
Dr. Gina (41:28):
Yes, well, your skin is your largest detox organ.
All right, you said that.
Yeah, and so it's proven toboost collagen synthesis.
It's used at high doses it canactually bleach the skin, but
I'm not an advocate for usinghigh, high doses of it.
But glutathione, because it'san antioxidant, absolutely
stimulates collagen synthesisand helps to reduce wrinkles.
Rose (41:53):
Well, we love that, we'll put that one right up there on
our list.
Yes, 100%.
I'm an advocate for just beingout there, being as beautiful as
you feel.
I mean, everyone's beautiful.
We're all beautiful inside andout.
And you know it's not about thewrinkles, but I know it does
bother some people and evenyoung girls.
I see them and them, oh, I havea wrinkle.
(42:14):
I'm a girl, you got time.
But yeah, don't don't let thatbother you, okay, not a big deal
.
I always say wrinkles are like.
You know, they're like wisdomor just laugh lines.
You know, just be happy andwrinkles are okay.
Dr. Gina (42:26):
Um, but they do.
I mean it does.
Glutathione is proven to helpgoals, I mean, and collagen also
helps in, even in joint health.
Rose (42:34):
I know that oh yeah, talk about the fascia because I do
yin yoga a lot and, okay, youknow there's collagen forms in
areas that there's inflammationalso or, in a case, immobility
in the joints and you mentionedearlier about the inflammation
of the joints and you get theachiness, so it helps to lower
all of that and helpslubrication and and collagen is
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amazing.
Dr. Gina (42:56):
I mean, you can also take collagen.
That's not a horrible thing todo if you know, depending on who
you are and what you cantolerate.
But marine collagen issomething that some women find
extremely beneficial to take too, and glutathione and vitamin C
help to stimulate collagensynthesis.
Rose (43:14):
Right, and you know, as you said, just be mindful and
don't go out and start, you know, taking a whole tub of collagen
in one week.
You know, just yeah, be smartabout it.
Dr. Gina (43:27):
Just take a deep breath.
You know, exhale, get centered.
I am a huge advocate.
You know everybody, you.
You know your body better thananybody else does, and so allow
that inner guide to come throughand help you to make decisions
on what's going to be best foryou.
Rose (43:47):
Right, I love that.
Is there anything else you youwanted to?
You say, children can take itright.
Anyone could take?
Is there anything else that youwanted to add that I haven't
asked about, regardingglutathione or anything else
that you work on and do?
Dr. Gina (44:07):
Well, so with glutathione, there's a lot of um
glutathione on the market, butit's not absorbed a lot of the
glue, so you have to beglutathione on the market, but
it's not absorbed a lot of theglue, so you have to be.
Glutathione is very unstableand so that's why it's usually
given in an IV or an injection.
And so one thing there is ifyou take it as an IV, there are
some experts that say it's atotal waste.
(44:30):
Dr Nayyar Patel, who wrote theglutathione revolution.
He's he's a colleague of mineand we've talked about this and
he's like it's a complete waste,like I don't know if it's a
complete waste, but but I willsay that glutathione is under
tight homeostatic control in thebody and a lot of people don't
know that.
So more isn't better.
(44:51):
Your body's going to reject it.
Your body has a in it in itsbrilliance.
There are controls in placewhere, if you take too much,
it's going to just eliminate itfrom your system.
It's going to get detoxed out.
So sometimes taking an IV ofglutathione he's right in that
it can be a waste and he's a bigadvocate.
(45:13):
He says a lot of it doesn'teven get absorbed where you want
it to get absorbed Becauseglutathione is a tripeptide.
It's a large molecule.
It's not easy for it to getinto the cells right, and so
there's that.
I give injections in mypractice and so I like those.
It's a little bit of a lowerdose and it's not sitting in a
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bag for an hour becauseglutathione is unstable when you
say it's unstable.
Rose (45:39):
Can you just tell us what you mean by that?
Dr. Gina (45:42):
Oh well, it can oxidize, and so then it's not
going to work.
Yeah, it's not going to work inyour body.
You want it in what's calledreduced form.
You want it in its what'scalled reduced form, and so then
there are.
So then you go to oralsupplements and there are
normally glutathione in apowdered form doesn't?
It doesn't get absorbed, it's,it's a waste, you know.
(46:05):
And so the form of glutathione Iactually use in best daily ever
is a specific form that's beenresearched and proven through
double-blind placebo-controlledstudies, clinical studies to
boost blood levels and red bloodcell levels, and so it's one
form.
It happens to be the mostexpensive and the most difficult
(46:26):
to get, but that's the formthat I use in Best Daily Ever
period.
So it's a particular brandedform of glutathione, and so you
can get glutathione from, youknow, China or wherever, for a
fraction of the price.
And so when you go onlineyou're like, oh, I'm going to
just get a glutathionesupplement.
You have to just be mindful,the cheapest one is not
(46:47):
necessarily the best one.
The most expensive one isn'tnecessarily the best one either,
you know.
So be mindful of where you'regetting your glutathione from.
Liposomal is a good form, it'sjust a lot of people don't like
the taste of it.
I don't like, you know.
And so that's the challengethere.
But the form that we use inBest Daily Ever is is a specific
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form of glutathione.
So, as you learn about it,because once, even to this day,
when I come across new studieson glutathione, I'm like, oh, I
got, I need to go take moreglutathione.
You know like, wait, did I takemy best daily ever today?
You know, because I'm I'mre-inspired all the time.
It's still, it's that powerful,you know.
But just being mindful as youget excited if you start
(47:30):
researching it, um, be, bemindful of of where you're
getting it from, so it's not awaste or doesn't cause harm
right, yeah, all right, it'swonderful.
Rose (47:42):
well, this has been very eye-opening and amazing work
that you're doing, uh, bringingawareness to this and creating
this product that you have thatcan help people on so many
levels.
I will definitely put all thelinks to how they can get more
(48:02):
information Best Daily Ever,your products and links back to
you and everything about you andyour book as well.
Yeah, so I thank you for beinghere today.
Dr. Gina (48:16):
Oh, thank you so much.
It's been a pleasure talkingwith you.
Rose (48:19):
Thank you, same here.
Dr. Gina (48:21):
Take care.
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Today.
On Chat Off the Mat, I welcomeDr Gina Nick.
Dr Gina is a world-renownednaturopathic physician,
researcher and formulator basedin Newport Beach, California.
She's a leading authority onthe prevention and treatment of
brain diseases, autoimmunediseases, inflammation,
addiction recovery, depression,anxiety, fatigue, weight gain
(01:24):
and sexual dysfunction.
After graduating medical school, dr Gina went on to become the
first director of research forthe world's top supplement
company, where she was chargedwith the task of creating and
growing the department for whatnow is a multi-billion dollar
company.
Dr Gina is also the executivehealthcare consultant to local
(01:46):
and government agencies.
President emeritus of theCalifornia Naturopathic Doctors
Association and founder andmedical director of HealthBridge
Newport, where she earned topmedical practice, she is here
today to discuss the powerbehind the supplement of
(02:07):
glutathione.
Welcome, Dr.
Gina Nick, thank you.
Thank you, thanks for beinghere.
I'm so excited about this topic.
Uh, can you just tell us alittle bit about yourself first
and what brought you to uh, tohelping people through your
product?
Dr. Gina (02:26):
How long do you have?
I know right, it's like my lifestory brought me here.
Yeah, really yeah.
When I was in undergrad well,rewind, since I was in
elementary school, I alwayswanted to be a doctor period.
I wanted to be a doctor and Iwanted to learn how to take care
of animals and learn how towrite a book, and then I wanted
(02:49):
to tap dance on the side so Ididn't get bored.
That was it and I would talkabout it.
I mean, that's what I'm doing.
And so here we are.
So I always wanted to be adoctor.
And then, when I was inundergrad at UCLA, my honors
academic counselor said Gina, Iwas going to pre-med track, just
allopathic medicine, going tobecome a doctor.
(03:10):
And he gave me a brochure for anaturopathic medical school.
And I was like, what's that?
Because I was always off, youknow, researching nutrition and
I was just very interested inlifestyle and diet and
supplements.
I was just fascinated by it.
And so he gave me this brochure, I researched it.
I'm like what?
(03:31):
I can be a doctor, but I canactually practice.
What I really feel in my heartof hearts is what I'm supposed
to be doing and what I'm mostinterested in, and that was it.
I never looked back.
So I ended up going to anaturopathic medical school.
I ended up going to anaturopathic medical school one
of the few accreditednaturopathic medical schools in
the country in Arizona and justfast forward, I was always
(03:55):
fascinated with supplements andso I was always hired by
nutritional supplement companiesto formulate and to educate
doctors on the use ofsupplements.
And then I was hired as thedirector of research for
Standard Process Nutrition,which is one of the oldest
nutritional supplement companiesin the country that caters to
healthcare practitioners andthey sell their products
(04:17):
worldwide.
And I created a purificationprogram while I was there that's
still in existence today, youknow, 20 years later, yeah, and
so that kind of started my wholepath on using nutritional
supplements and formulatingsupplements and getting that
information out there.
And then when I started my ownmedical practice at a little
(04:40):
practice in Laguna Beach,california, and I had, one of my
first patients was actually aformer drug addict and I had
done all the naturopathic thingswith him detoxification and
nutrition and all the things butI'd also given him glutathione
in injection form and he saidyou know, of all the things that
(05:01):
you've given me, glutathionehas had the most profound effect
, and so that kind of like stuckwith me, you know, and so fast
forward, and I had you know, Igot to be known for
detoxification, for puttingpeople on detoxification
programs, because that wasreally real passion of mine.
And so I was hired by a companywho made a form of glutathione
(05:25):
that was clinically researchedand proven to boost blood levels
.
And the challenge withglutathione is that it has to be
either injected or it doesn'tget very well absorbed when you
take it orally, and so noteverybody wants to get an
injection.
And there's a form calledliposomal that I would use in my
practice because that has gooddata showing it actually does
(05:47):
work, but it tasted horrible soI couldn't get people to stay on
it.
And I have a nephew who hasautism and I kept telling my
sister you need to give himglutathione, but how are we
going to give it to him?
Because I didn't want to givehim injections and he wasn't
going to take this grossliposomal form, and so that
(06:07):
planted another seed for me andI started researching
glutathione in my practice andusing it with patients and I'm
like this is amazing.
Yeah, I really.
It really forced me to do adeep dive into just glutathione
and I realized there's over ahundred thousand published
clinical studies on the use ofthis master antioxidant, and so
(06:29):
this is incredible.
And then I was giving a lecturein London at the International
Congress of NaturopathicMedicine.
There were like 600practitioners from all over the
world there and only a fractionof them even knew what
glutathione was.
And I was talking aboutglutathione and detoxification,
(06:49):
inflammation, and I'm likethat's it.
I'm going to make glutathione ahousehold name.
Everybody needs to know aboutthis.
It's the mother of allantioxidants.
It's so amazing for the body,naturally occurring in the body,
but it's so powerful, and so Idecided then I'm going to do
this.
(07:10):
And then COVID hit and I washome homeschooling my daughter
and going and doing patientvisits with all the garb on.
No, we didn't know what COVIDwas and we were all just freaked
out.
But I noticed that glutathionewas helping a lot.
I was giving injections to mypatients and then a study came
out saying that glutathione canhelp prevent a severe reaction
(07:32):
to COVID, and so I said I wantto.
I want to create a glutathionethat tastes good, has no sugar
in it, you know it doesn't haveany of the bad stuff in it,
because I'm a supplement snobhas to be like pure as pure can
be, but I want it to taste goodenough for kids to take it.
You know it doesn't have any ofthe bad stuff in it.
Because I'm a supplement snobhas to be like pure as pure can
be, but I want it to taste goodenough for kids to take it.
And so I decided to create aformula.
I sent it to the lab, got itback and on the first go it
(07:54):
tasted amazing.
I had kids taking it, everybodyloved it and that was it.
So, through a lot of blood,sweat, tears, I created the
company and we have pixie sticksfor kids and for adults.
They taste great.
It's sweetened with glycine.
So that was.
I woke up one morning and I'mlike that's it.
(08:15):
I'm going to sweeten this withglycine because glycine is an
amino acid that I would.
When I formulate products formy patients I'll just do custom
formulas for them I would oftenuse glycine to sweeten it
because I didn't want to use anyjunk, because my patients
needed the opposite of that, youknow.
And so, and glycine is one ofthe amino acids found in
(08:38):
glutathione.
So it was also going to helpwith the additional manufacture
of it, anyway, so that.
So that's that you know.
And here we are.
I have a like a kid's pixiestick, an adult pixie stick, and
I really wanted it to besomething that tasted as good as
candy kind of.
Got delivered in a form similarto candy, but that was truly
(08:59):
good for you and good for kidsyou know packaging, packaging
can go a long way.
Rose (09:05):
You know sometimes the form and the delivery.
You know and the flavor theflavor.
Dr. Gina (09:10):
So I have, I was giving it to my patients.
I have a capsule form of bestdaily ever.
It's called formula one.
So I was giving them capsules,but for kids.
You know I wanted it to be, youknow, in a form that kids could
take.
And then I thought, well, noteverybody wants to take capsules
, especially women.
Like, as we go through thathairy menopause, menopause phase
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and estrogen levels go down, Alot of women have trouble
swallowing pills.
Rose (09:36):
I didn't know that, oh yeah.
Oh, now I know why I havetrouble swallowing pills.
Dr. Gina (09:41):
Well, estrogen is like the hydration hormone and so
you know you even affect.
So anyway, I'm like why nothave this in a powdered form?
I would like to be able to justput it in my water or just take
it, you know, because I take itall the time, right.
And so I made it for adults tosame formula, just a different
dosage for adults.
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Wow.
Rose (10:03):
So that's, that's a great story, and you follow your
passion and here you are, andlet's talk about what
glutathione is, if you can.
I mean, I have it here, but ifyou can, just let us know what
that is.
So we'll circle back to that.
Dr. Gina (10:16):
So I refer to it as the mother of all antioxidants.
So it really it truly is.
It is found in every one ofyour trillions of cells, so it's
manufactured by the body and itbasically an antioxidant
basically means that it, like,neutralizes free radicals, free
radical, render them inactive orhelp to clear them out of the
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body.
What's so amazing aboutglutathione is that it is
essential for what's calledphase two detoxification, and so
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your body, your body's detoxingat all times, 24 seven.
You know all your cells aredetoxing all the time and I find
that fascinating.
You know that.
You know that we have thishuman detoxification system.
That is so.
I mean, it's found throughoutthe body.
There are a lot of differentorgan systems involved and our
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bodies are actively takingtoxins and converting them into
a form that can get eliminatedfrom our bodies.
You know, day in and day out,24 seven.
So to me, that says okay, thisis a really important thing.
It's really important to ourhealth and wellbeing.
Well, glutathione is so key tothat, to supporting your body's
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natural detoxificationmechanisms.
Rose (11:46):
Yeah, I have.
I did a little research and itsays that it's produced by the
liver and the liver is kind oflike the main organ for
detoxification.
Everybody's not everybody, butthere's a lot of people who like
to do these liver detoxes.
Whether they're safe or they dothem safely, I don't know, but
it is involved in tissuebuilding and repair right and
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helping the body to detox.
Dr. Gina (12:09):
Absolutely and so your liver is considered like your
main detox organ, butglutathione is manufactured in
all your cells.
It's just there's more in theliver because the liver is one
of those main detox organs.
The liver is one of those maindetox organs, but your skin is a
major detox organ.
Your colon, kidneys, lymphaticsystem those are all part of the
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human detoxification system.
Rose (12:34):
Yeah, what are some of the symptoms of a deficiency in
glutathione?
Dr. Gina (12:41):
So one thing is people who drink alcohol having an
intolerance.
So when you have a hangover,technically you can prevent the
hangover by taking glutathione.
I'm not an advocate fordrinking alcohol.
It's a neurotoxin.
My patients don't like it whenI say that to them, but it's
true especially for women.
Women have even more difficultymetabolizing alcohol.
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It's not your friend.
However, for those people thatdo drink alcohol and are
particularly sensitive, or theynotice over time they're more
sensitive to alcohol, that's asign because glutathione is
essential for detoxificationwhen you have neuroinflammation.
So what's that?
Inflammation in the brain?
So when that happens symptomsof like long COVID, for example
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that's neuroinflammation.
You have fatigue, foggythinking, even symptoms of
attention deficit disorder andautism are correlated with
neuroinflammation.
Cognitive decline, evenAlzheimer's disease.
Rose (13:41):
You mentioned.
Alzheimer's.
Dr. Gina (13:43):
Yes, and so all of these things are tied to
neuroinflammation andglutathione.
This is interesting.
This is a way to know.
There's a lot of things thatcan cause all of those
conditions.
Obviously right, and thosesymptoms, but in the brain
there's less of a concentrationof glutathione than in the rest
of the body, and so it makes thebrain more vulnerable to
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exposure to toxins.
Yeah, and so when you areexposed to toxins, it can
deplete the glutathione that isin your brain and that can lead
to neuroinflammation.
You can even there's animalstudies where they can produce
like symptoms of Alzheimer'sdisease and Parkinson's disease
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by depleting glutathione fromthe.
Yeah, and so that's why I'msuch a huge, you know, taking
some glutathione daily tosupport your body's ability to
detoxify and protect your brain,which is more vulnerable to
exposure to toxins.
So, and then also inflammation.
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So achy joints, you know, canbe tied to this, what I call
silent inflammation, you know.
So it's not like inflammation,like if you have a bug bite and
it's red and it's inflamed.
That's one.
This is silent inflammation.
So it's insidious, it'shappening throughout your body
but you can't like pinpoint itto one specific area.
It's just kind of generalizedinflammation.
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So glutathione will help lowerthat.
So when you have generalizedinflammation, you'll have achy
joints, things like foggythinking, fatigue, Um, a lot of
the symptoms tied toperimenopause and menopause
sleeping difficulties, weightgain in the midsection, mood
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swings, hot flashes, hot flashesfor sure, mood swings those are
all tied to that phase andthose can all be associated with
less glutathione than your bodyneeds.
Yes, right and so, and a lot ofpeople will say well, look, your
body makes it on its own, sowhy do you need to take it Right
, like if your body naturallymanufactures it and it has to do
(15:52):
with?
I don't think our bodies haveevolved to the point of I really
my.
My truth is we're exposed to aheck of a lot more toxins than
we are aware of, and so that'sjust a gut feeling and based and
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paired with a ton of researchand experience.
You know, as a naturopathicphysician, over 20 years, and so
our bodies are have anincreased demand for glutathione
, which is the main way that ourbody detoxifies from all that
stuff.
Rose (16:32):
Right, I agree with you.
I think that there's a lot moreout there that is depleting us
on so many levels and that ourbodies can't keep up.
And you're seeing more chronicissues, chronic pain, chronic
fatigue, anything like peoplecoming up with fibromyalgia or
Parkinson's, more autism, so somany more of these chronic
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illnesses that are coming up andwe're like, why is there?
You know, why are thesehappening?
Why is this all happening?
Very interesting, I know you do.
In your book, you also talkabout the microbiome.
Yes, um, can you talk a littlebit about the?
I know that's also aterminology.
People write book about the gutand the microbiome.
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Can you talk about therelationship between microbiome
and glutathione?
Dr. Gina (17:20):
Yeah, so the gut microbiome is basically like all
of the good bacteria, badbacteria, happening in this
whole ecology in your gut, thiswhole ecosystem in your gut, and
so when you're exposed toantibiotics, which can be
lifesaving, it can strip yourbody of the good stuff too, not
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just the bad stuff.
When you're exposed to certaintoxins that can kill off the
good stuff and increase the badstuff in that whole gut
microbiome.
And glutathione helps to offsetthat.
So it helps to protect the gutmicrobiome from that imbalance
that occurs where all of asudden you have too much bad
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stuff paired to the good stuff,right, and so it helps to
protect, you know, the gut fromharm caused by viruses, bacteria
, mold.
It's a big one, it impacts themicrobiome significantly and
glutathione helps to protect youfrom that.
Rose (18:25):
And in the gut they're saying it's like your second
brain or another brain, but it'salso helps with your immune
system.
So glutathione helps tostrengthen our immune system,
which can also be affected byantibiotics and just lifestyle
Right 70% of your immune system,essentially, is housed in your
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gut.
Dr. Gina (18:49):
Wow, yeah, and so glutamine.
Glutamic acid is one of thecomponents in glutathione, and
that's one of the primary fuelsfor this.
They're called intestinalenterocytes cells in your gut.
It's what they use to functionright, and so you're basically
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feeding the good stuff to keepyour gut healthy.
Rose (19:15):
That's great, and there's also a lot of people are now
suffering as well fromstomach-related issues like IBS,
gluten intolerance, celiac allthese things that perhaps
glutathione can help with oroffset or maybe help manage a
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little better, maybe not make itas intense.
Dr. Gina (19:38):
Yes, yeah, for sure.
I mean it's supporting yourimmune system.
It's also even for autoimmuneconditions, like when you say
like celiac, or like Hashimoto'sthyroiditis, which can be very
tough to treat.
glutathione can help treat thatwhere there's not a lot of
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things that can, so it can avoida gluten.
But in terms of just helpingwith any gut-related issues, but
then any alsoautoimmune-related issues,
glutathione plays an importantrole and so it sounds like the
best thing since sliced bread.
But I'm like it kind of is.
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And I coined the phrase vitaminG because it's as important, if
not more important, thanvitamin C, and we all know
vitamin C is used for so manythings.
You know it's for immunefunction, but it helps with
blood sugar balance, helps withadrenal gland function.
Vitamin C is so critical tooverall health and well-being,
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so is vitamin G and theyactually work together.
Glutathione and vitamin C workhand in hand.
They kind of they cycle betweenone another, so they support
each other, which is why I putvitamin C in the formula also.
Rose (20:55):
So it's a team, they work together.
Yeah, I remember when vitamin Cwas just like the only
supplement.
Dr. Gina (20:59):
you know, years ago you got to take vitamin C, you
got to take.
Rose (21:02):
That was it.
There was nothing like maybethere were other things I wasn't
aware of, but I mean, I've beenaround a while, so it's.
You know, vitamin D and there'sall these other supplements now
and there's just almost so manyI know.
Dr. Gina (21:14):
But you know it gets overwhelming, it gets so
overwhelming, and that's where I, you know, at this point it's
like I want to like, cut to thechase.
Okay, what, like?
If you're going to take onething, what would it be?
And that's hard to answer,right.
Rose (21:26):
Yeah.
Dr. Gina (21:26):
Because every human is different, everybody's
different.
Yes, right.
Rose (21:29):
You know I was thinking when you were talking about
people who drink alcohol.
I stopped, I quit a year agoyeah, Good, and I'm thinking
like this can help with peoplewho stop drinking to help maybe
eliminate, alleviate some of thepost-symptoms that they get and
help to detox the body.
Dr. Gina (21:55):
Yes, oh, yeah, and help to repair the liver and
repair it as well.
Rose (21:57):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely , yeah.
So all those people out therethat are thinking about not
drinking, or started notdrinking or want to stop
drinking, this is something thatyou could consider taking to
help you, because it's not aneasy process to go through.
After you stop drinking, yourbody just reacts like in all
ways.
Dr. Gina (22:16):
And it's addictive right.
And so glutathione is used foraddiction.
I told you my first, one of myfirst patients I ever had,
that's where it all, where thiswhole thing with me and
glutathione started, was then.
And so glutathione is used foraddiction treatment.
It helps a lot, and so there'smore going on than it's just
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detoxifying it's also it'slowering neuroinflammation, it's
helping to rebalance brainchemistry.
So you don't have that as muchof a need to self-medicate
because maybe you're feelingbetter you know Right, and
depression.
Rose (22:55):
There's like that, you know, people with chemical
imbalances and with mentalillness, mental health issues.
Perhaps that also can help,cause I know I've suffered from
mental health in the past.
I had depression and was givena.
I don't even remember back thenwhat they were called, I don't
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think they're even marketedanymore or made but they, I was
told they helped to balance outthe chemicals in my brain, which
did help, you know.
But then I went off of thembecause I don't like to be
anything long-term.
So.
But they were not, they wereprescription, which I would have
preferred to have something alittle bit more natural.
Dr. Gina (23:34):
So here I actually founded the Brain Health and
Mental Wellness Foundation.
Oh, wow, so yeah, andglutathione is intertwined with
that, because I feel likeeverybody should have access to
glutathione and I know that ithelps to lower neuroinflammation
and brain inflammation.
(23:54):
And inflammation in the braincan trigger symptoms of
depression, anxiety, addiction,obsessive compulsive disorder.
A lot of your different mentalhealth challenges can be helped
by lowering inflammation in thebrain.
And what's really interesting,so there's something called
sickness syndrome where, if youhave inflammation in the rest of
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your body right, so and likethere are things called
interleukins they'reinflammation chemicals, right?
So let's say, interleukin-4 iscirculating in your body because
you were exposed to a virus oryou had a stress reaction or for
whatever reason, you've gotthat particular inflammatory
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molecule circulating in yourbody.
Guess what happens?
Your brain will start to makethat same inflammatory molecule
that the rest of your body ismaking.
It'll mimic it, right, and thereason for that is probably
protective.
It's like oh okay, there'ssomething happening.
We need to protect the brain.
So we're going to create thisinflammatory molecule, which can
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be a good thing because yourbody will produce those, your
immune system will produce thoseto fight off infection, right,
but it goes out of control.
And here's what we found waswhen that inflammation starts to
happen in the brain, that'swhat triggers things like
depression, anxiety, you know.
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So when you get like the fluand you've kind of feel down and
you know kind of like you justwant to stay in bed, well, that
makes sense that the body wouldbe designed that way.
It'll keep you away from goinggoing out and, you know,
socializing a bunch of peopleand and spreading your germs
everywhere else, right.
So it makes sense that youwould get have kind of a
depressed state of being rightas a protective mechanism to
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keep you home and keep youstationary until you're better.
But things aren't balancedthese days, right, and so that
inflammation is going on andit's kind of out of control and
you feel depressed becausethere's inflammation happening
in the body, and you'llappreciate this.
So what they found was, um,there's something called the
vagus nerve right running.
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Yeah, okay, a lot of.
There's a lot of talk about thevagus vagus nerve now yes well,
there were studies done.
If you sever the vagus nerve,you disconnect the vagus nerve
activity.
Okay, guess what?
The brain won't make those sameinflammatory molecules that
your body's making.
So it's like that's theconnection, okay, the vagus
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nerve.
And so then what do you do?
It's called regulating vagaloutput.
How do you regulate vagaloutput?
Yoga, right, you know, qigong,acupuncture, meditation, breath
work the things that a lot ofpeople are talking about these
days helps to make it so thatyou don't have as much
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inflammation in the brain.
So bagel output is whatconnects the body to the brain
in that way, from this thingcalled sickness syndrome.
Wow, yeah, and so that's awhole different way to look at
mental health issues.
It's another thing to consider.
If somebody has depression,anxiety, et cetera, are we
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really looking at?
Is there inflammation happening, and what are some basic steps
you can take to lowerinflammation?
How much does that impact?
Mood Hormone deficiency willcause inflammation too.
Stress.
Rose (27:31):
Oh, it does.
Dr. Gina (27:31):
Yeah, yeah, estrogen deficiency will trigger
inflammation.
Rose (27:35):
Interesting.
So as a woman gets older andthe estrogen depletes, or she's
on some kind of medication thatlowers the estrogen, like I was
for breast cancer then itincreases inflammation anywhere,
right?
Dr. Gina (27:51):
It increases systemic inflammation.
It triggers the inflammatorycascade in the body.
Yeah, a lot of people don'tknow that and that's where
having hormone balance becomesimportant.
And also, but if you're on likean estrogen blocker or you know
, you're going through thatperimenopause and menopause
phase and you're not takingsomething to help balance it out
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, so you're not deficient, youknow, like truly deficient in
the hormones.
Something like glutathione thatlowers inflammation and lowers
inflammation in the brain canhelp to offset those symptoms.
Rose (28:27):
Do you know that one of the I'm having a brain fog and I
was just going to say somethingabout brain fog One of the
symptoms or the risk of takingtamoxifen not risk, what's the
word?
Side effect, side effect, thankyou Is brain fog.
Yeah, oh yeah, and you know I'mnot.
Luckily I'm not on it anymore,but it would have been nice to
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know about this back then.
They would have caused, youknow, me to have a better brain
function at the time.
So I will definitely tell myfriends who are on Tamoxifen
about this for sure.
Oh, wow, well, interesting.
Dr. Gina (29:02):
But always I say, if you are on any chemotherapeutic
agent, always work with yourprescriber and make sure that
they are educated and know whatto recommend for you In terms of
antioxidants.
There's some controversy onusing certain antioxidants when
you're on chemotherapy.
Rose (29:21):
Right, definitely be safe and ask your physician, of
course.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'd like to ask if there arefood sources of glutathione and
I only ask this just foreducating everyone here and I
know that if you tell me it'sbroccoli, then we have to eat
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like a ton of broccoli.
Maybe this will also encouragepeople to eat their veggies.
But if you can, let us knowwhat some of the food sources
are, absolutely.
Dr. Gina (29:54):
Yeah.
So avocados, broccoli, yourgreen vegetables, spinach,
peaches, cherries, those aresome good sources.
I mean mean even red meat hasglutathione in it, and so
there's a lot of differentsources in our diet for, for,
for getting some glutathione.
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The question is yes.
Is it going to be enough?
And if you're having symptoms,I always say start with diet.
Clean up your diet first.
You, your diet and yourdrinking is going to work better
.
You know, I mean you don't haveto, but if you want the biggest
bang for your buck, you know,address diet and lifestyle first
(30:35):
and then, if you're stillhaving symptoms, you know and
you're, you're not feeling ahundred percent and you're
wanting to take more actionintroducing.
You know, if you're going tointroduce an antioxidant, I
recommend glutathione in a formthat is actually absorbed in the
body, you know, to helpsupplement for what you maybe
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you're not getting in your dietor that your body's not
manufacturing on its own Right.
Rose (31:01):
And also if you're a type of person who eats a lot of
sweets, that creates a lot ofinflammation on the body as well
.
I mean, sugar is an epidemic, Ithink.
Dr. Gina (31:14):
Don't get me started on sugar.
I won't.
No, no, no.
But, it's really, and it's oneof the reasons why I made these
kids pixie sticks.
I wanted to swap out the sugar,you know.
So you see, these kids.
I mean I have a young daughter,she'll be 12.
And it's like when I see what'sin the candy that these kids
are given.
You know, I can't controlwhat's happening outside my home
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a hundred percent.
Right, you can't, and you haveto kind of let it be, but it's
horrible.
It is horrible.
What these kids are given ishorrible.
What the grocery manufacturersassociation allows to be
produced to, that's marketed tokids.
Because sugar is, um, is, is isextremely addictive.
Um, it acts on the opioidsystem in the body.
(31:56):
It feeds the bad bacteria inthe gut.
When you talk about the gutmicrobiome, right, alters the
gut microbiome significantlylong term, you know, and so it
feeds.
It feeds the bad stuff.
It also competes for bindingsites with vitamin c.
C is like, essential for immunefunction and works with
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glutathione.
You know they work together.
But, um, just sugar, itincreases.
Obviously we all know it causesobesity and things like that.
But it also just affects achild's brain significantly and
our kids need support in thatarea now more than ever because
they're under more stress with,you know, social media and all
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the stress going on in the worldright now, going on in the
world right now.
Rose (32:43):
Our kids need to be clear thinking, you know, grounded,
focused, you know and clear onwhat they're doing here you know
, and not addicted to sugar andvideo games, and because that
can create the imbalances of thebrain, like you said.
Right, just just yeah.
And you see a lot of issuesthat kids are having in school
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and I don't know.
I just it's important that wework with the kids, because the
kids are our future.
How does this also help withpeople who are very active, like
athletes, people who work outconstantly?
You know, maybe they're workingout so much that they're
actually depleting themselves inother areas that they're not
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aware of?
How can glutathione help withbaby recovery or something like
that?
Dr. Gina (33:30):
Oh, it does help.
It helps significantly withrecovery and athletes, my
athletes, see it, they, theyexperience it, you know.
And so because it lowersinflammation, I mean it just it
helps to offset the impacts oflactic acid, but it also, I mean
it has such a systemic effect.
You know that it's just, it'soptimizing performance of the
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human body.
You know, when you, when yourglutathione levels are balanced
and you and things are workingefficiently in that way and your
detox mechanisms are workingefficiently, your ability to,
you know, push yourselfathletically goes way up, way up
.
And so it's, it's, it'sdefinitely helpful for
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performance athletes.
You know they use it too andit's not, you know it's not a
drug, it's so yeah, and but they, but it's definitely beneficial
for supporting just enduranceand speeding up recovery after
workouts.
Rose (34:29):
Yeah, recovery, especially as you get older, and I know a
lot of people who are older anddo a lot of things that they
want to do that they were ableto do when they were younger,
and they get injured and thenthey don't recover as quickly,
and then they get frustrated andcreate this whole cycle of I
don't know just this madnesswithin themselves, but this is
good to know.
Dr. Gina (34:49):
That's unnecessary.
Rose (34:51):
Yeah, it is unnecessary.
Yeah, Is there anybody thatshould not take it?
Dr. Gina (35:00):
So I'm I, you know.
I always say work if you have adiagnosed condition, work with
your healthcare practitioner,you know to before you take any
supplements.
So before you, because you knowit's always better to partner
with a qualified healthcarepractitioner, somebody who knows
what supplements are and isfamiliar with using them, you
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know, work with an educatedpractitioner.
You know, work with an educatedpractitioner.
And so I would say always, ifyou have a diagnosed condition,
to to run this by your doctorfirst.
You know, and just make sureit's it's a doctor that you have
a trusted relationship withthat has education in the use of
supplements, you know, yeah.
Rose (35:44):
I have an acupuncturist I work with and she graduated as a
um, not just an acupuncturist.
Oh my gosh, I'm having suchbrain fog today.
But anyway, she knows all thesupplements, all the medication
and she will tell you like thisworks for you, this doesn't work
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for you.
So I kind of I trust that andyou know she's never really said
like this doesn't work.
But it's just be mindful of howyou're feeling.
Like anything you takesomething.
If it starts to not feel right,for whatever reason, you pause
or you look at all the otherthings that you're doing in your
life and kind of rule thingsout.
You know kind of just make sure, because you know your own body
(36:27):
.
Dr. Gina (36:27):
Yes, yes, it's like I'm always telling patients you
know your body better thananybody else ever will.
You know, you partner withexperts, you listen to podcasts,
you educate yourself, you trythings, you know and, at the end
of the day, you got to go backto your own source.
You know and go within and getconnected there, because there's
(36:48):
a wealth of knowledge thereabout what's going to be best
for you Right, and so that helpsto guide you to the right
practitioners, to the rightsupplements, the right whatever
it is.
You need to just continue onyour path, and so that's.
Rose (37:04):
Yeah, it's just like I didn't know about glutathione
and now I do, and now it openedup a whole new world for me and,
I hope, for my listeners aswell.
I want to talk about somethingthat for me, eye health is
important, and I've beenstarting to wear glasses more
and I've been starting to thinkabout this.
I'm like, do I really needglasses all the time?
Every time I go to the eyedoctor, they're giving me a new
prescription.
(37:25):
Do I really need the increasedprescription?
And I know I've heard you sayor I've read that this also
helps with eye health.
Dr. Gina (37:33):
Yep, it does.
Toxins.
When your eyes are exposed totoxins, it causes a thickening
of the lens and it compromiseseyesight.
So if you're taking glutathioneand there is glutathione in
your eyes, you're preventing theeffects of toxins on your eyes
(37:59):
and just think cellular damage,right?
So keep it simple.
Our body's made up of all ofthese trillions of cells, right?
Every one of those cells haswhat's called a mitochondria
powerhouse of the cell.
That's where energy is produced.
It's also where the DNA, youknow, is housed.
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And interest, I find when Irealized this, I found it so
interesting.
It's also where toxins tend tocongregate.
They tend to congregate in themitochondria of the cells, where
the DNA is housed, you know,and other things, and when they
congregate there they causedamage, right, DNA damage,
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cellular damage that causesdysfunction in the body.
So when you take glutathione,or you have sufficient
glutathione in your cells andit's getting into the
mitochondria, it's protectingthe powerhouse of your cells
from exposure to those toxins.
So any organ in your bodythat's going to be attacked.
Rose (39:06):
And I know, according to traditional Chinese medicine,
the liver is associated with theeyes.
Dr. Gina (39:14):
Yeah.
Rose (39:20):
So I love that connection and I'm looking to improve my
eyesight.
Dr. Gina (39:23):
So and it's not too late.
Rose (39:24):
No, oh gosh yeah, it's no, because I'm telling you I was.
I'm so drawn to this.
I, I, I want to learn moreabout how I can reverse.
I know I think you were on anepisode on somebody's podcast,
yeah, and I found her and I'mactually I want to talk to her
about being on the show, abouteyesight and how we can improve
(39:45):
our eyesight.
Dr. Gina (39:46):
Yes, Claudia, yeah, yeah.
Rose (39:48):
Claudia.
Dr. Gina (39:49):
Yeah, she's amazing and so she's the expert when it
comes to everything you can doto help to reverse any issues
with eyesight.
But the body, your body'salways trying to get back to a
state of homeostasis or balance.
It's always working for you toget to that place of health and,
(40:11):
yes, it you can't.
You know we're all gonna growup, we're all gonna.
You know that that's happening,no matter what Right.
But it's very doable and verypossible to optimize your health
as you go on your path so thatyou, you, can have your best,
you know best life.
Feel your best and have yourbest life and, you know, enjoy
(40:33):
and not succumb to differentannoying symptoms all the time,
right or to be fixated on that.
And so just remember, yourbody's always trying to get to
that state of balance.
Give it what it needs andremove any barriers to cure.
Remove any as best you can, andthat's what you go to.
Healthcare practice, you learn,et cetera.
Remove any of the blocks Couldbe a trauma block, it could be
(40:58):
stress, it could be toxins, butwhatever you can to remove any
barriers to cure, and then yourbody is brilliant.
It's brilliant, just likenature is brilliant.
Rose (41:10):
It is, you're right.
Yeah, that's, I love that.
So as we age as well a lot ofwomen, you know we lose collagen
in our bodies and we get alittle bit of like, maybe like
wrinkles, here and there, and wedon't feel as good in our skin.
Does it help with the skin?
Dr. Gina (41:28):
Yes, well, your skin is your largest detox organ.
All right, you said that.
Yeah, and so it's proven toboost collagen synthesis.
It's used at high doses it canactually bleach the skin, but
I'm not an advocate for usinghigh, high doses of it.
But glutathione, because it'san antioxidant, absolutely
stimulates collagen synthesisand helps to reduce wrinkles.
Rose (41:53):
Well, we love that, we'll put that one right up there on
our list.
Yes, 100%.
I'm an advocate for just beingout there, being as beautiful as
you feel.
I mean, everyone's beautiful.
We're all beautiful inside andout.
And you know it's not about thewrinkles, but I know it does
bother some people and evenyoung girls.
I see them and them, oh, I havea wrinkle.
(42:14):
I'm a girl, you got time.
But yeah, don't don't let thatbother you, okay, not a big deal
.
I always say wrinkles are like.
You know, they're like wisdomor just laugh lines.
You know, just be happy andwrinkles are okay.
Dr. Gina (42:26):
Um, but they do.
I mean it does.
Glutathione is proven to helpgoals, I mean, and collagen also
helps in, even in joint health.
Rose (42:34):
I know that oh yeah, talk about the fascia because I do
yin yoga a lot and, okay, youknow there's collagen forms in
areas that there's inflammationalso or, in a case, immobility
in the joints and you mentionedearlier about the inflammation
of the joints and you get theachiness, so it helps to lower
all of that and helpslubrication and and collagen is
(42:55):
amazing.
Dr. Gina (42:56):
I mean, you can also take collagen.
That's not a horrible thing todo if you know, depending on who
you are and what you cantolerate.
But marine collagen issomething that some women find
extremely beneficial to take too, and glutathione and vitamin C
help to stimulate collagensynthesis.
Rose (43:14):
Right, and you know, as you said, just be mindful and
don't go out and start, you know, taking a whole tub of collagen
in one week.
You know, just yeah, be smartabout it.
Dr. Gina (43:27):
Just take a deep breath.
You know, exhale, get centered.
I am a huge advocate.
You know everybody, you.
You know your body better thananybody else does, and so allow
that inner guide to come throughand help you to make decisions
on what's going to be best foryou.
Rose (43:47):
Right, I love that.
Is there anything else you youwanted to?
You say, children can take itright.
Anyone could take?
Is there anything else that youwanted to add that I haven't
asked about, regardingglutathione or anything else
that you work on and do?
Dr. Gina (44:07):
Well, so with glutathione, there's a lot of um
glutathione on the market, butit's not absorbed a lot of the
glue, so you have to beglutathione on the market, but
it's not absorbed a lot of theglue, so you have to be.
Glutathione is very unstableand so that's why it's usually
given in an IV or an injection.
And so one thing there is ifyou take it as an IV, there are
some experts that say it's atotal waste.
(44:30):
Dr Nayyar Patel, who wrote theglutathione revolution.
He's he's a colleague of mineand we've talked about this and
he's like it's a complete waste,like I don't know if it's a
complete waste, but but I willsay that glutathione is under
tight homeostatic control in thebody and a lot of people don't
know that.
So more isn't better.
(44:51):
Your body's going to reject it.
Your body has a in it in itsbrilliance.
There are controls in placewhere, if you take too much,
it's going to just eliminate itfrom your system.
It's going to get detoxed out.
So sometimes taking an IV ofglutathione he's right in that
it can be a waste and he's a bigadvocate.
(45:13):
He says a lot of it doesn'teven get absorbed where you want
it to get absorbed Becauseglutathione is a tripeptide.
It's a large molecule.
It's not easy for it to getinto the cells right, and so
there's that.
I give injections in mypractice and so I like those.
It's a little bit of a lowerdose and it's not sitting in a
(45:34):
bag for an hour becauseglutathione is unstable when you
say it's unstable.
Rose (45:39):
Can you just tell us what you mean by that?
Dr. Gina (45:42):
Oh well, it can oxidize, and so then it's not
going to work.
Yeah, it's not going to work inyour body.
You want it in what's calledreduced form.
You want it in its what'scalled reduced form, and so then
there are.
So then you go to oralsupplements and there are
normally glutathione in apowdered form doesn't?
It doesn't get absorbed, it's,it's a waste, you know.
(46:05):
And so the form of glutathione Iactually use in best daily ever
is a specific form that's beenresearched and proven through
double-blind placebo-controlledstudies, clinical studies to
boost blood levels and red bloodcell levels, and so it's one
form.
It happens to be the mostexpensive and the most difficult
(46:26):
to get, but that's the formthat I use in Best Daily Ever
period.
So it's a particular brandedform of glutathione, and so you
can get glutathione from, youknow, China or wherever, for a
fraction of the price.
And so when you go onlineyou're like, oh, I'm going to
just get a glutathionesupplement.
You have to just be mindful,the cheapest one is not
(46:47):
necessarily the best one.
The most expensive one isn'tnecessarily the best one either,
you know.
So be mindful of where you'regetting your glutathione from.
Liposomal is a good form, it'sjust a lot of people don't like
the taste of it.
I don't like, you know.
And so that's the challengethere.
But the form that we use inBest Daily Ever is is a specific
(47:08):
form of glutathione.
So, as you learn about it,because once, even to this day,
when I come across new studieson glutathione, I'm like, oh, I
got, I need to go take moreglutathione.
You know like, wait, did I takemy best daily ever today?
You know, because I'm I'mre-inspired all the time.
It's still, it's that powerful,you know.
But just being mindful as youget excited if you start
(47:30):
researching it, um, be, bemindful of of where you're
getting it from, so it's not awaste or doesn't cause harm
right, yeah, all right, it'swonderful.
Rose (47:42):
well, this has been very eye-opening and amazing work
that you're doing, uh, bringingawareness to this and creating
this product that you have thatcan help people on so many
levels.
I will definitely put all thelinks to how they can get more
(48:02):
information Best Daily Ever,your products and links back to
you and everything about you andyour book as well.
Yeah, so I thank you for beinghere today.
Dr. Gina (48:16):
Oh, thank you so much.
It's been a pleasure talkingwith you.
Rose (48:19):
Thank you, same here.
Dr. Gina (48:21):
Take care.
Rose (48:27):
Thank you for joining me here on Chat Off the Mat.
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filled with love, laughter andendless possibilities.
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