September 2, 2024 • 39 mins
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Can your mind heal your body? Join us as we unravel groundbreaking insights into the mind-body connection and its profound influence on health. Through captivating personal stories and cutting-edge science, we examine how acute and chronic illnesses can make us feel betrayed by our own bodies, leading to a cascade of mental health challenges. Explore how stress translates into physical symptoms like high blood pressure and digestive issues, and discover the incredible power of the placebo effect—the mind’s own tool for healing.
Uncover the hidden dynamics of cellular consciousness and learn how your mental state can affect even the most common ailments like colds. Hear about a client's transformative journey through cellular hypnosis, revealing how subconscious patterns impact health. We discuss how aligning your thoughts and intentions with your body can lead to profound physical changes and optimal health. This episode promises to shift your perspective on health and well-being, empowering you to harness the synergy between mind and body for a better, healthier life.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Welcome and thank you for joining us for Coffee with
Hilary and Les.
Brought to you by the State ofMind Hypnosis and Training
Centre located in the heart ofthe Kawartha Lakes, this is our
almost daily community podcastabout the mind and how we all
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might change it in the mostsimple and helpful ways.
Every day we sit staring at thelake and sipping our coffee,
chatting about hypnosis and howto make those meaningful
adjustments to our state of mind, Because nothing's more
important than your state ofmind, because nothing's more
important than your state ofmind the doggy chewing her bone.
(00:53):
Give the dog a bone.
Yep, remember, mine's gonnathink yeah might as well give it
a bone, give it something goodto think yeah dog, he's gonna
chew.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Give her a bone, she's happy she is the other
bone we got her last week.
Just fell apart, it justsnapped in half so this one's
stronger.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Don't let your fingers get near her yeah,
exactly so.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
today we're talking about how, through usually acute
and chronic illnesses, we tendto turn against our body, or we
actually think that our body hasturned on us, this feeling like
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we're just not in control ofwhat's happening any longer.
I read a really interestingmeme yesterday and it was quite
simple and it made.
All the sense in the world isthat we can have 2,000 problems
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until our health is the problem,and then we have one problem,
right.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
You know, the body really does dominate the mind,
Right?
I like to think of it that ourmind is situated in our body and
that body is well.
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It is responsive to everythingaround it.
It is responsive to our mind.
I mean, when you think aboutthe subtle connection, you know
the levels of mind you've got.
You know the unconscious mind,the deepest part of your mind
that actually is running thebody, and you know your mind's
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involved with running the body,because all you have to do is
think about something scary andyour heart starts to speed up
and your, your pupils dilate.
So there's this you have a dreamat night and you're doing
nothing but lying in bed, butyou break out in a sweat and
your body is all clenched up.
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The body and the mind aredeeply connected in ways that
we're not even aware of.
So to me it's so important tosee these simple examples of how
your mind is deeply integratedinto your body and if my mind
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has the ability to mess with myfunctions, right.
So many people have digestiveissues that are complete they
accept is a complete connectionto stress, or they have
circulatory issues like highblood pressure.
I mean, I don't know how manypeople, probably three or four
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come to mind right off the topof my head, people I've worked
with and helped them reducetheir blood pressure, just with
their mind right, you know, theconnection between the mind and
the body is really, really deep.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, yeah, I remember when I was going
through um years ago when I hadI mean, we never really figured
it out what exactly it was,doctors didn't know, but, um,
I'm gonna say it was aneurological sleep disorder, um
and uh, basically I fell intothis mindset of my body.
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I can't stand this body.
I don't know what to do.
Now it's turned against me andand hating it and not seeing a
future any longer, any future ofany sort.
And I don't know when.
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I couldn't tell you the day, oreven the month or a year really,
but at some point I started towork with my body again and I
started to come back on boardwith no, this body is not
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something to be resented.
It hasn't turned against me,and I think a lot of that had to
do with you helping meunderstand that what was
happening was happening in mymind and the body was responding
and then subsequently doinghypnosis.
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And here we are today.
But yeah, it was definitelysomething that I went through
and I see a lot of people goingthrough it, a lot of people
going through it so I think thatthere's these ideas that are
out there, and what they are is.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
If you're into real science, then you're aware that
just about every pharmaceuticalcertainly every pharmaceutical,
and many, many natural remediesgo through the process of
testing.
And what the testing is isreally simple it's to prove that
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the, the particular substanceis having an improvement on your
body beyond placebo, right?
So we have this idea of placeboand I think, um, it's a fact,
it's it, it's a proven fact.
Every time we do a medicalstudy on any kind of
pharmaceutical, on any kind ofmedicine, on any kind of remedy,
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if we're trying to prove thatthis thing works, what we do is
create what they call a doubleblind.
So a double blind simply meansthat there are two groups One
group is going to get themedicine and one group is going
to get the medicine and onegroup is going to get a placebo,
a sugar pill, a fake medicine,a non interactive substance as
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it relates to this particularproblem.
And the reason it's blind isnot, it's double blind, because
not only is the subject notaware of what they're getting,
whether it's the medicine or theplacebo, but neither is the
administrator, so the person whohands them the pill doesn't
know whether they're handingthem a placebo or the actual
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medicine, right?
And so the person administeringthe medicine has no reason to
think that they're giving aplacebo or the medicine one over
the other, which will controltheir interaction with it, right
?
So this is the standard format,and then what they're looking
for is a significant improvement, a meaningful improvement in
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the condition.
That is markedly more than theplacebo effect, because the
placebo effect happens everysingle time.
Every single time they get agroup of a couple of hundred
people and they give a hundredpeople placebos.
That the number varies between5 and 15 percent, sort of.
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At a minimum, those peopleactually improve, thinking
they're receiving the medicineand they're just receiving sugar
pills and, as a result, theystill get better.
So this idea of the placeboeffect is huge, in my opinion,
when it comes to understandingthe connection between the mind
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and the body, right, if we takethat simple example.
That said, you know I canincrease my heartbeat.
Biofeedback studies show we canjust sit and think and increase
our heartbeat, decrease ourheartbeat, increase our
breathing, decrease ourbreathing these things that are
in that autonomic world wherethey take place automatically,
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and then we can actually healtaking sugar pills because we
think we're taking medicine,because we're essentially being
tricked into thinking we'retaking medicine.
This, to me, just opens thedoor door.
So why aren't we looking quitedeliberately at the effect the
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mind can have on the body and onthe body's health?
There's the flip side ofplacebo.
There's nocebo.
Do you remember that one?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
yes, nocebo is when told something, so it's not like
a physical thing that we ingest.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Not a pill.
It's talking with a doctor.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And the doctor just says hey, you have cancer, yeah,
you have cancer yeah, and allof a sudden you start acting
like you do that.
There are countless storieswhere people have been told that
they're ill when they're not,whether they got their tests
mixed up or you know where thedoctor has literally made a
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mistake or, more importantly,the doctors have suggested
implications from theseillnesses that are extreme, and
the patient just falls rightinto an acceptance of that.
So it's not just that you canget healthy from being told
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you're going to get healthy.
You can get sick from beingtold you're going to be sick.
The mind has that kind of power.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, I remember.
Just to give an example, Iremember the medication that I
was on and I hated it.
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I hated the medication that Iwas on and I hated it.
I hated the is.
I would imagine getting up andgoing through my routine of
taking the medication and Iwould even go as far as just
imagining like it was themedication was in my mouth and I
was swallowing it, and I wouldjust lay in bed the whole time
just imagining this scenario,and then tell myself, because I
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did this every single time Itook the medication.
I would tell myself, okay, nowI'm gonna sleep, now I'm, now I,
now I can sleep.
And it was amazing to me, thefew times that I did it, that
that I, I fell asleep.
I fell asleep and I woke up, ofcourse, not feeling like shit.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, to me that's just such deep proof of the
connection between the mind andthe body, right and and how the
mind really does control thebody.
And when you take theseexamples and you take these
simple ideas, it leads us to aconclusion that people don't
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like, people resist, people getreally upset with right, where
they have to accept that theyare responsible for the state of
their body, that they're not avictim of their body, they're
not a victim of their body, thattheir mind.
Although you know, for most ofus, controlling our own minds is
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just a whole lot of work, evenif we can be just a little bit
successful, we're working reallyhard at that.
You know, this has been myquest for 20 more years is
trying to figure out how to bein better control of my mind and
thus improve my life.
I mean, we talk about reframes,we use hypnosis, we use these
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techniques that really are meantto do that.
They're meant to makeadjustments to deep beliefs,
deep understandings of ourselvesand of our world that changes
the way we interact withourselves and the world, and
others that are all around usnotice those changes simply by
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making changes in our own mind.
It's really, you know, it'sreally comfortable to say I live
in a world that has disease.
You know colds are out there,people catch colds, right.
But what's amazing is to aperson.
Now, every time I see somebodywho says I've got a cold, I just
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simply respond with things arepretty confusing right now and
the reaction is yeah, how'd youknow?
Right, because colds come aboutwhen we're in a confused state.
The mental state is one ofconfusion and it makes perfect
scientific sense.
The cold virus is out thereeverywhere, all the time.
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It's not like the cold virusdisappears.
It's out there on every surface.
It's Everybody's passing itaround and carrying it around.
There are billions of people onthis planet and the cold virus
is thriving.
But why is it that sometimes webecome subject to it and other
times, without any knowledgewhatsoever, our body is fighting
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it off quite successfully.
And why sometimes you can get acold and it just suddenly goes
away so quickly, right, andsometimes get a cold and it
lasts for weeks.
And it's frustrating becausewe're not really paying
attention to what's going on inour mind, because we have been
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taught that you know, a runnynose and a cough is a disease
that we need a pill for, butwhen we become aware that we
become susceptible to colds whenwe're in a state of confusion,
when things in our life areconfusing and we're unsure what
to do and we don't know whatstep to take, or even just as
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simply as we're doing somethingnew and it feels confusing to us
these new things that we'redoing.
Like everybody talks aboutSeptember colds.
Well, in September, everybodygoes from holidays to work and
sometimes people go back toschool and sometimes people go
to new schools and sometimespeople go to schools that are
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now much harder because they gofrom grade school to high school
.
And oh, is it a big surprisethat that these young people are
walking around with colds inthe fall?
Not, to me, it isn't.
It's no surprise and it's not.
You know, anybody whounderstands how the mind works
understands that placebo andnacebo are real.
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They're scientific facts, thatthey exist.
It exists that you can take asugar pill and heal as a result
of it, because in your mind youdo so.
Yeah, it's a big step, it's ahard step.
I don't like it.
You know, I got up this morningand my shoulder was killing me
and I know mentally what's goingon for me and you know, quite
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frankly, I'm a bit of a mess andI know that mentally.
But when I sit and I embracethe idea that I'm in control of
my body, that my body has thecapacity to heal very, very
quickly, and I embrace thethought patterns that support
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that healing, I experiencesometimes instantaneous health,
instantaneous improvement.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty amazing.
When I work with people thatare kind of circling back to
being angry at their body,having this disconnect, because
it seems like their bodiesturned on them, I work in the
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you know, I just call it thecellular realm, all the way
starting more and more to theenergetic realm.
And you and you know what'sfascinating is that when we get
there in our imagination, usingthe power of our imagination I
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mean we talk about thoughtschanging how we feel, our
imagination is working with thatand when we get to the cells,
let's say all the way down tothat level, cells can actually
feel emotion.
It's like they have their ownconsciousness right.
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So we get there.
And it doesn't surprise me inthe least that when I say what
does the cell look like?
Or what do you sense from thecell, what's the cell look like?
Or what do you sense from thecell, what's the emotion?
Some say oh, it's a brown cell,it's kind of droopy like it's
just not thriving.
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And it's amazing, after doingthe work then to help the cell,
that the cell changes.
And we work to help change thecell, change the emotional, the
emotion of the cell.
And you know, I'll say toclients, which I think it's the
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truth.
The more and more I work withclients, I believe this to be
the truth is your subconsciousmind can't hide from you, it
can't lie to you.
You can lie to me about whatyou're seeing or experiencing,
but it cannot lie to you.
So when a client says well,I'll say to a client well, what
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does the cell look like nowafter doing the work?
Oh, it's feeling better.
There's still something there,though there's still like a
brown spot, let's say on thecell that you know.
That tells me as the hypnotistokay, there's a little more work
to do, right?
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And if the client was justgoing along for the ride and
like, oh yeah, everything'sbetter now, it wouldn't show as
that right, it would show asthis beautiful cell that's
healthy and vibrant.
So I always, really I try mybest to trust in the
subconscious mind of the clientand always go with what they are
experiencing and seeing.
But it is amazing how muchcells, your body, wants to be
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heard, it wants to be loved, itwants to be shown appreciation,
it wants to trust you.
Again, right, there's a,there's trust sometimes that
needs to be built, um, but itnever wants to turn against you.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Well, and and it's not that it's turning against
you, it's that it's manifestingwhat's in your mind.
Just as an example, you had aclient and this is to me that a
lot of this stuff is intuitive,and a lot of people that were,
who are listening to this, arejust going to say yeah, yeah, I
agree, and some people are goingto go no way, because some
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people don't, they don't want tofeel like they're responsible
for their own illness and itisn't.
I wouldn't put it asresponsibility.
I put it as a thought pattern.
I have a thought pattern, Ihave an understanding that might
not be correct.
I have a way of thinking that'snot helping me and that way of
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thinking is deep within my wholebeing, which includes this body
, and that thought pattern isaffecting the body.
You had a client that you didcellular work with and it made a
huge difference and you talkedabout it on a TikTok.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
And hundreds of thousands of people watched it.
I think because theyintuitively know that there's a
lot to that right.
There's a lot to understandingthe thought patterns that we
hold and how they connect.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I mean you said it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
You know, I believe that consciousness takes a lot
of forms.
It's not just human beingswalking around saying look at me
, I'm a human.
There's a lot of elements toconsciousness, maybe awareness,
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maybe a beingness.
But when I work with my clientson these kinds of things, we
talk about how every cell hasits own consciousness.
Every cell in your body has itsown purpose.
Even when it's lined up with abunch of cells just like it,
each one is doing its functionin its way for the whole of the
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tissue, for the whole of theorgan, for the whole of the
system and therefore the wholeof the body.
You know, we started off as twocells, right?
Two cells that came togetherand differentiated, right?
Science can observe all thedifferent chemical reactions
that come about in that massivedifferentiation of cells through
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the process of pregnancy andthe process of fetal development
.
They can observe it, buthaven't yet explained it, like
why does it happen?
What compels it to happen?
Why does it happen, right?
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What compels it to happen?
Um, and you know, I'm going tosuggest I'm not the first one to
suggest it, of course thatthat's just consciousness.
Each cell knows what it's thereto do.
Each cell has a role to play.
And so you can, you know, andwe do this in hypnosis if you
can understand the consciousnessor for, for a lack of a better
word the mind of each cell, youcan first of all, like you do,
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get information from that cell.
The cells will actually, youknow, tell the story.
Cells actually tell you whatcaused them to be misfiring,
misfunctioning yeah, so I'll use.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I guess I'll use that example Um, cause I've already
shared it.
Um is basically the person haduh, they were, they were working
out really fit, but they hadthis front part of them that was
holding on to weight still.
And so we went there.
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We went to the cells in thatarea of the body, and how we get
there is just through intention.
There's no special way ofgetting there, it's just
intention of going to thatspecific part.
Intention is amazing.
So we go there and we ask thecells, we ask the cells, the
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cell in charge.
Sometimes I'll say what are youholding on to, what are you
holding on to?
And show us what you're holdingon to.
And so let's go back in time towhere this holding on to extra
weight came from.
And so we went back in time toa time where there was a
puncture in that spot.
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They were young, they were intheir teenage years, and there
was a puncture and there was asubsequent surgery.
So the cells thought you knowthat that space in the body
needed extra care in casesomething ever happened to it
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again.
Now we worked with the cellsjust saying it's okay, you can
let this go now, that's notgoing to happen again.
That was a one-time thing andit's safe to let it go.
It's okay to let it go.
And they came in I don't know,I think it was like a month
later and uh, and they exclaimedhow they they lost the way they
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waited because they were, theywere an avid person, like
working out, um, uh, and so theyjust lost the weight.
It was incredible and I didresearch afterwards that was one
of my first cellular hypnosissessions, let's say and I did
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research afterwards and learnedthat cells do, at a scientific,
let's say, level, will hold onto inflammation to protect that
part of the body, and thatprotection can last a very, very
, very long time, very long time.
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So it's about really siding withthe cell, siding with just
getting them on board with theknowledge that it's okay now.
It's okay, time has passed,that was a one-time thing.
I even had somebody who, againback to the belly, the, the
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belly, uh, where we tend to holdon weight, the pouch we call it
Um, I had one woman go back intime to where she was pregnant
and her body loved beingpregnant and so she wanted that
at the subconscious level, atthe cellular level, to, to, to
stick to stick around um and wedid the work there.
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But yeah, it's just incrediblewhat um, yeah, what the body
holds on to in terms of thecellular um network well, I've
had all kinds of success.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Just, you know, just explaining these ideas to
clients and it just opens theireyes and they, you know we'll go
in and we'll quite literallyjust activate all the cells.
Every cell knows what it'sthere to do and if you're not
feeling perfect health it'sbecause the cells aren't being
allowed to do what they're thereto do.
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And quite literally, just goinghead to toe with people and
saying we're just going to tellall the cells and give them
permission and encourage themand support them to just start
doing exactly what they weremeant to do.
And you know, clients just lovethat.
They come back weeks later andthey just say you know, can we
do that thing again?
Because that was, I felt, reallygood for days and days after
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that.
There's all kinds of people whowrite about this stuff the
mind-body connection and theemotional, mental component to
illness and some of them getdismissed.
You know a lot of people liketo call this pseudoscience
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dismissed.
You know a lot of people liketo call this pseudoscience and
you know my immediate reactionto them, of course, is the most
mainstream science in medicineare these double-blind studies.
Every single one has proven theexistence of the placebo effect
, which proves the ability ofthe mind to stimulate healing.
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This is scientifically provenevery time we do a study.
How can it be pseudoscience tosuggest that we can understand
how placebo works and how wemight be able to make use of it?
But when anybody sort of balksat this, I say well, let's
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conduct an experiment.
Nobody can tell you better howyour body works than you.
No one can advise you betterthan you the state and strength
and state of health of your body.
So why wouldn't you conductyour own experiment for your own
purposes, for your own health?
If you make use of some of thistechnique and it actually helps
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you be healthier, then whocares what anybody else says?
Really, quite literally likethat's a waste of time to let
somebody else convince me thatwhat I've experienced isn't real
, and so I suggest it toeverybody.
Some people will conduct thatexperiment and maybe there won't
be a positive health effect,and God bless them off.
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They go Live your life.
You're going to live the lifeyou're meant to live, in my
opinion, and you know I offerwhat I can offer in hopes that
it helps.
There's great resources outthere.
You know writers like LiseBourbon and Bruce Lipton and, of
course, louise Hay, who's, Ithink, for most people who have
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embraced this way of thinking,she kind of represents the
earliest reintroduction of theseideas into society.
And that's the trick isunderstanding that these ideas
are very old.
You know, hundreds, thousandsof years ago, medicine included
a mental, emotional element allthe time, and I think if you're
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a medical practitioner, I mean,nothing stops you from including
this.
Nobody is suggesting don'tadminister the regular medical
treatment, but you can stillhave a positive effect by
changing the words you use, bymaking suggestions, by offering
thoughts, affirmations that arepositive.
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I mean, how can you go wrongthinking a positive thought Like
, how can that be in any wayhurtful?
Right, and you know, I knowthere's some people who would
try to figure out a way thatit's hurtful, but it's.
It's generally, you know, avery positive thing.
So I suggest you just try itfor yourself.
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You just embrace the idea thatyou control your body, your mind
is in control of your body,that the dysfunction of your
body can be affected by yourmind proven by the placebo
effect and that you can changewhat you think.
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You can change how you think.
So you know, louise Hay has herlittle book heal your body.
It's got a chart in it.
Every time a client comes inand says, oh, I've never heard
of that, I hand them the bookand they we lose a half an hour
at the session right therebecause they're just deep dive
into the book, readingeverything they can, flipping
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from condition to condition andrecognizing in themselves sort
of a sympathetic vibration tothese ideas.
And then, of course, they allgo out and buy their own copy of
the book.
I've lost dozens of copies ofthis book, lending it to clients
.
I don't do that anymore.
But it's not an expensive book.
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It's $17 on Amazoncom.
Heal your Body by Louise Hay.
It's $17 on Amazoncom.
Heal your Body by Louise Hay.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, I just want to set up a scenario for people in
their minds to really grasp this, and I want you to imagine that
your cells in your body aresuffering.
Right, you've got somethinggoing on and the cells in that
area of the body are sad,they're holding on to something,
and now you're telling themliterally, through thought or
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out loud, when we're sofrustrated with ourselves, that
you're bad.
Right that I recently readsomething where someone calls
their body a jerk.
Right, like, imagine, imaginetelling a part of you that's
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suffering, that's holding on tosomething, that they're a jerk,
or they're bad, or otherwise.
When you put it into thatcontext, you start to feel
compassion, and compassion iswhere you want to be.
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It's what you want to be withyour body.
You want to be compassionateand, believe me, I've been there
.
It's hard when you feel likeevery day it's working against
you, but there's a message fromyour body for you and it's just
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about finding out that messageand that's about just spending
some time whether it's inhypnosis or meditation or in
silence just connecting andreconnecting to the body.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, it's hard to take that step, to embrace that
you are in control of your body.
You are in control of your bodyEven with thoughts that you
don't know.
You have understandings you'renot conscious of.
At the same time, there's not alot of joy in life if you don't
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see your body as a source ofjoy, as something that you can
shape and change and turn intowhat you want.
I mean, there are people whoare deeply embracing that.
They're going to the gym everyday and they're lifting weights
and they're changing their shape.
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There are people out theretaking supplements and, you know
, enjoying everything from, youknow sound baths to vibrational
healings.
They're out there, mostimportantly, loving their body
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and doing what they can to carefor their body.
It's a neat reframe to say and Isay this every day in the
shower as a reminder I am notthis body.
This body has nothing to dowith who I really am.
I control this body.
I create this body with my mindand I will take care of it.
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My body is joy, and I've reallyshifted to that second part
more recently, rather than justsay I'm not this body, I shape
this body, I enjoy this body, Iam living in this body and the
phrase my body is joy is a is anice kind of reframe that puts a
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real, a tangible when you spendthe time to really think at a
tangible sensation into thewhole of your body, feel the
words my body is joy, I live inthis body.
These kinds of reframes have ahuge impact on just your mental
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state, your state of mind, andit's worth embracing.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, there's something that comes to mind
that just sort of fell out of mymouth months ago, and there's a
client of mine that when ithappened, she really took it on
and really loved it.
She wrote it on her board inher room.
The saying goes my mind renewsmy body, my body renews my life
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Nice, and she really enjoyedthat Nice.
So, yeah, just thoughts to chewon.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
You own your mind and you own your body and nobody
can tell you what's what.
I hope this stuff helps and itcauses you to embrace what
control you have over your body.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Yeah, yeah, reconnect .
Reconnect with your cells, withyour body, with your energy.
All right, have a good day.
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might change it in the mostsimple and helpful ways.
Every day we sit staring at thelake and sipping our coffee,
chatting about hypnosis and howto make those meaningful
adjustments to our state of mind, Because nothing's more
important than your state ofmind, because nothing's more
important than your state ofmind the doggy chewing her bone.
(00:53):
Give the dog a bone.
Yep, remember, mine's gonnathink yeah might as well give it
a bone, give it something goodto think yeah dog, he's gonna
chew.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Give her a bone, she's happy she is the other
bone we got her last week.
Just fell apart, it justsnapped in half so this one's
stronger.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Don't let your fingers get near her yeah,
exactly so.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
today we're talking about how, through usually acute
and chronic illnesses, we tendto turn against our body, or we
actually think that our body hasturned on us, this feeling like
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we're just not in control ofwhat's happening any longer.
I read a really interestingmeme yesterday and it was quite
simple and it made.
All the sense in the world isthat we can have 2,000 problems
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until our health is the problem,and then we have one problem,
right.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
You know, the body really does dominate the mind,
Right?
I like to think of it that ourmind is situated in our body and
that body is well.
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It is responsive to everythingaround it.
It is responsive to our mind.
I mean, when you think aboutthe subtle connection, you know
the levels of mind you've got.
You know the unconscious mind,the deepest part of your mind
that actually is running thebody, and you know your mind's
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involved with running the body,because all you have to do is
think about something scary andyour heart starts to speed up
and your, your pupils dilate.
So there's this you have a dreamat night and you're doing
nothing but lying in bed, butyou break out in a sweat and
your body is all clenched up.
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The body and the mind aredeeply connected in ways that
we're not even aware of.
So to me it's so important tosee these simple examples of how
your mind is deeply integratedinto your body and if my mind
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has the ability to mess with myfunctions, right.
So many people have digestiveissues that are complete they
accept is a complete connectionto stress, or they have
circulatory issues like highblood pressure.
I mean, I don't know how manypeople, probably three or four
(04:06):
come to mind right off the topof my head, people I've worked
with and helped them reducetheir blood pressure, just with
their mind right, you know, theconnection between the mind and
the body is really, really deep.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yeah, yeah, I remember when I was going
through um years ago when I hadI mean, we never really figured
it out what exactly it was,doctors didn't know, but, um,
I'm gonna say it was aneurological sleep disorder, um
and uh, basically I fell intothis mindset of my body.
(04:47):
I can't stand this body.
I don't know what to do.
Now it's turned against me andand hating it and not seeing a
future any longer, any future ofany sort.
And I don't know when.
(05:07):
I couldn't tell you the day, oreven the month or a year really,
but at some point I started towork with my body again and I
started to come back on boardwith no, this body is not
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something to be resented.
It hasn't turned against me,and I think a lot of that had to
do with you helping meunderstand that what was
happening was happening in mymind and the body was responding
and then subsequently doinghypnosis.
(05:48):
And here we are today.
But yeah, it was definitelysomething that I went through
and I see a lot of people goingthrough it, a lot of people
going through it so I think thatthere's these ideas that are
out there, and what they are is.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
If you're into real science, then you're aware that
just about every pharmaceuticalcertainly every pharmaceutical,
and many, many natural remediesgo through the process of
testing.
And what the testing is isreally simple it's to prove that
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the, the particular substanceis having an improvement on your
body beyond placebo, right?
So we have this idea of placeboand I think, um, it's a fact,
it's it, it's a proven fact.
Every time we do a medicalstudy on any kind of
pharmaceutical, on any kind ofmedicine, on any kind of remedy,
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if we're trying to prove thatthis thing works, what we do is
create what they call a doubleblind.
So a double blind simply meansthat there are two groups One
group is going to get themedicine and one group is going
to get the medicine and onegroup is going to get a placebo,
a sugar pill, a fake medicine,a non interactive substance as
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it relates to this particularproblem.
And the reason it's blind isnot, it's double blind, because
not only is the subject notaware of what they're getting,
whether it's the medicine or theplacebo, but neither is the
administrator, so the person whohands them the pill doesn't
know whether they're handingthem a placebo or the actual
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medicine, right?
And so the person administeringthe medicine has no reason to
think that they're giving aplacebo or the medicine one over
the other, which will controltheir interaction with it, right
?
So this is the standard format,and then what they're looking
for is a significant improvement, a meaningful improvement in
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the condition.
That is markedly more than theplacebo effect, because the
placebo effect happens everysingle time.
Every single time they get agroup of a couple of hundred
people and they give a hundredpeople placebos.
That the number varies between5 and 15 percent, sort of.
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At a minimum, those peopleactually improve, thinking
they're receiving the medicineand they're just receiving sugar
pills and, as a result, theystill get better.
So this idea of the placeboeffect is huge, in my opinion,
when it comes to understandingthe connection between the mind
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and the body, right, if we takethat simple example.
That said, you know I canincrease my heartbeat.
Biofeedback studies show we canjust sit and think and increase
our heartbeat, decrease ourheartbeat, increase our
breathing, decrease ourbreathing these things that are
in that autonomic world wherethey take place automatically,
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and then we can actually healtaking sugar pills because we
think we're taking medicine,because we're essentially being
tricked into thinking we'retaking medicine.
This, to me, just opens thedoor door.
So why aren't we looking quitedeliberately at the effect the
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mind can have on the body and onthe body's health?
There's the flip side ofplacebo.
There's nocebo.
Do you remember that one?
Speaker 2 (09:40):
yes, nocebo is when told something, so it's not like
a physical thing that we ingest.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Not a pill.
It's talking with a doctor.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And the doctor just says hey, you have cancer, yeah,
you have cancer yeah, and allof a sudden you start acting
like you do that.
There are countless storieswhere people have been told that
they're ill when they're not,whether they got their tests
mixed up or you know where thedoctor has literally made a
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mistake or, more importantly,the doctors have suggested
implications from theseillnesses that are extreme, and
the patient just falls rightinto an acceptance of that.
So it's not just that you canget healthy from being told
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you're going to get healthy.
You can get sick from beingtold you're going to be sick.
The mind has that kind of power.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah, I remember.
Just to give an example, Iremember the medication that I
was on and I hated it.
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I hated the medication that Iwas on and I hated it.
I hated the is.
I would imagine getting up andgoing through my routine of
taking the medication and Iwould even go as far as just
imagining like it was themedication was in my mouth and I
was swallowing it, and I wouldjust lay in bed the whole time
just imagining this scenario,and then tell myself, because I
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did this every single time Itook the medication.
I would tell myself, okay, nowI'm gonna sleep, now I'm, now I,
now I can sleep.
And it was amazing to me, thefew times that I did it, that
that I, I fell asleep.
I fell asleep and I woke up, ofcourse, not feeling like shit.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, to me that's just such deep proof of the
connection between the mind andthe body, right and and how the
mind really does control thebody.
And when you take theseexamples and you take these
simple ideas, it leads us to aconclusion that people don't
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like, people resist, people getreally upset with right, where
they have to accept that theyare responsible for the state of
their body, that they're not avictim of their body, they're
not a victim of their body, thattheir mind.
Although you know, for most ofus, controlling our own minds is
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just a whole lot of work, evenif we can be just a little bit
successful, we're working reallyhard at that.
You know, this has been myquest for 20 more years is
trying to figure out how to bein better control of my mind and
thus improve my life.
I mean, we talk about reframes,we use hypnosis, we use these
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techniques that really are meantto do that.
They're meant to makeadjustments to deep beliefs,
deep understandings of ourselvesand of our world that changes
the way we interact withourselves and the world, and
others that are all around usnotice those changes simply by
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making changes in our own mind.
It's really, you know, it'sreally comfortable to say I live
in a world that has disease.
You know colds are out there,people catch colds, right.
But what's amazing is to aperson.
Now, every time I see somebodywho says I've got a cold, I just
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simply respond with things arepretty confusing right now and
the reaction is yeah, how'd youknow?
Right, because colds come aboutwhen we're in a confused state.
The mental state is one ofconfusion and it makes perfect
scientific sense.
The cold virus is out thereeverywhere, all the time.
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It's not like the cold virusdisappears.
It's out there on every surface.
It's Everybody's passing itaround and carrying it around.
There are billions of people onthis planet and the cold virus
is thriving.
But why is it that sometimes webecome subject to it and other
times, without any knowledgewhatsoever, our body is fighting
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it off quite successfully.
And why sometimes you can get acold and it just suddenly goes
away so quickly, right, andsometimes get a cold and it
lasts for weeks.
And it's frustrating becausewe're not really paying
attention to what's going on inour mind, because we have been
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taught that you know, a runnynose and a cough is a disease
that we need a pill for, butwhen we become aware that we
become susceptible to colds whenwe're in a state of confusion,
when things in our life areconfusing and we're unsure what
to do and we don't know whatstep to take, or even just as
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simply as we're doing somethingnew and it feels confusing to us
these new things that we'redoing.
Like everybody talks aboutSeptember colds.
Well, in September, everybodygoes from holidays to work and
sometimes people go back toschool and sometimes people go
to new schools and sometimespeople go to schools that are
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now much harder because they gofrom grade school to high school
.
And oh, is it a big surprisethat that these young people are
walking around with colds inthe fall?
Not, to me, it isn't.
It's no surprise and it's not.
You know, anybody whounderstands how the mind works
understands that placebo andnacebo are real.
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They're scientific facts, thatthey exist.
It exists that you can take asugar pill and heal as a result
of it, because in your mind youdo so.
Yeah, it's a big step, it's ahard step.
I don't like it.
You know, I got up this morningand my shoulder was killing me
and I know mentally what's goingon for me and you know, quite
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frankly, I'm a bit of a mess andI know that mentally.
But when I sit and I embracethe idea that I'm in control of
my body, that my body has thecapacity to heal very, very
quickly, and I embrace thethought patterns that support
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that healing, I experiencesometimes instantaneous health,
instantaneous improvement.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty amazing.
When I work with people thatare kind of circling back to
being angry at their body,having this disconnect, because
it seems like their bodiesturned on them, I work in the
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you know, I just call it thecellular realm, all the way
starting more and more to theenergetic realm.
And you and you know what'sfascinating is that when we get
there in our imagination, usingthe power of our imagination I
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mean we talk about thoughtschanging how we feel, our
imagination is working with thatand when we get to the cells,
let's say all the way down tothat level, cells can actually
feel emotion.
It's like they have their ownconsciousness right.
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So we get there.
And it doesn't surprise me inthe least that when I say what
does the cell look like?
Or what do you sense from thecell, what's the cell look like?
Or what do you sense from thecell, what's the emotion?
Some say oh, it's a brown cell,it's kind of droopy like it's
just not thriving.
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And it's amazing, after doingthe work then to help the cell,
that the cell changes.
And we work to help change thecell, change the emotional, the
emotion of the cell.
And you know, I'll say toclients, which I think it's the
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truth.
The more and more I work withclients, I believe this to be
the truth is your subconsciousmind can't hide from you, it
can't lie to you.
You can lie to me about whatyou're seeing or experiencing,
but it cannot lie to you.
So when a client says well,I'll say to a client well, what
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does the cell look like nowafter doing the work?
Oh, it's feeling better.
There's still something there,though there's still like a
brown spot, let's say on thecell that you know.
That tells me as the hypnotistokay, there's a little more work
to do, right?
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And if the client was justgoing along for the ride and
like, oh yeah, everything'sbetter now, it wouldn't show as
that right, it would show asthis beautiful cell that's
healthy and vibrant.
So I always, really I try mybest to trust in the
subconscious mind of the clientand always go with what they are
experiencing and seeing.
But it is amazing how muchcells, your body, wants to be
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heard, it wants to be loved, itwants to be shown appreciation,
it wants to trust you.
Again, right, there's a,there's trust sometimes that
needs to be built, um, but itnever wants to turn against you.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Well, and and it's not that it's turning against
you, it's that it's manifestingwhat's in your mind.
Just as an example, you had aclient and this is to me that a
lot of this stuff is intuitive,and a lot of people that were,
who are listening to this, arejust going to say yeah, yeah, I
agree, and some people are goingto go no way, because some
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people don't, they don't want tofeel like they're responsible
for their own illness and itisn't.
I wouldn't put it asresponsibility.
I put it as a thought pattern.
I have a thought pattern, Ihave an understanding that might
not be correct.
I have a way of thinking that'snot helping me and that way of
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thinking is deep within my wholebeing, which includes this body
, and that thought pattern isaffecting the body.
You had a client that you didcellular work with and it made a
huge difference and you talkedabout it on a TikTok.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
And hundreds of thousands of people watched it.
I think because theyintuitively know that there's a
lot to that right.
There's a lot to understandingthe thought patterns that we
hold and how they connect.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I mean you said it.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
You know, I believe that consciousness takes a lot
of forms.
It's not just human beingswalking around saying look at me
, I'm a human.
There's a lot of elements toconsciousness, maybe awareness,
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maybe a beingness.
But when I work with my clientson these kinds of things, we
talk about how every cell hasits own consciousness.
Every cell in your body has itsown purpose.
Even when it's lined up with abunch of cells just like it,
each one is doing its functionin its way for the whole of the
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tissue, for the whole of theorgan, for the whole of the
system and therefore the wholeof the body.
You know, we started off as twocells, right?
Two cells that came togetherand differentiated, right?
Science can observe all thedifferent chemical reactions
that come about in that massivedifferentiation of cells through
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the process of pregnancy andthe process of fetal development
.
They can observe it, buthaven't yet explained it, like
why does it happen?
What compels it to happen?
Why does it happen, right?
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What compels it to happen?
Um, and you know, I'm going tosuggest I'm not the first one to
suggest it, of course thatthat's just consciousness.
Each cell knows what it's thereto do.
Each cell has a role to play.
And so you can, you know, andwe do this in hypnosis if you
can understand the consciousnessor for, for a lack of a better
word the mind of each cell, youcan first of all, like you do,
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get information from that cell.
The cells will actually, youknow, tell the story.
Cells actually tell you whatcaused them to be misfiring,
misfunctioning yeah, so I'll use.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I guess I'll use that example Um, cause I've already
shared it.
Um is basically the person haduh, they were, they were working
out really fit, but they hadthis front part of them that was
holding on to weight still.
And so we went there.
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We went to the cells in thatarea of the body, and how we get
there is just through intention.
There's no special way ofgetting there, it's just
intention of going to thatspecific part.
Intention is amazing.
So we go there and we ask thecells, we ask the cells, the
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cell in charge.
Sometimes I'll say what are youholding on to, what are you
holding on to?
And show us what you're holdingon to.
And so let's go back in time towhere this holding on to extra
weight came from.
And so we went back in time toa time where there was a
puncture in that spot.
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They were young, they were intheir teenage years, and there
was a puncture and there was asubsequent surgery.
So the cells thought you knowthat that space in the body
needed extra care in casesomething ever happened to it
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again.
Now we worked with the cellsjust saying it's okay, you can
let this go now, that's notgoing to happen again.
That was a one-time thing andit's safe to let it go.
It's okay to let it go.
And they came in I don't know,I think it was like a month
later and uh, and they exclaimedhow they they lost the way they
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waited because they were, theywere an avid person, like
working out, um, uh, and so theyjust lost the weight.
It was incredible and I didresearch afterwards that was one
of my first cellular hypnosissessions, let's say and I did
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research afterwards and learnedthat cells do, at a scientific,
let's say, level, will hold onto inflammation to protect that
part of the body, and thatprotection can last a very, very
, very long time, very long time.
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So it's about really siding withthe cell, siding with just
getting them on board with theknowledge that it's okay now.
It's okay, time has passed,that was a one-time thing.
I even had somebody who, againback to the belly, the, the
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belly, uh, where we tend to holdon weight, the pouch we call it
Um, I had one woman go back intime to where she was pregnant
and her body loved beingpregnant and so she wanted that
at the subconscious level, atthe cellular level, to, to, to
stick to stick around um and wedid the work there.
(27:20):
But yeah, it's just incrediblewhat um, yeah, what the body
holds on to in terms of thecellular um network well, I've
had all kinds of success.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Just, you know, just explaining these ideas to
clients and it just opens theireyes and they, you know we'll go
in and we'll quite literallyjust activate all the cells.
Every cell knows what it'sthere to do and if you're not
feeling perfect health it'sbecause the cells aren't being
allowed to do what they're thereto do.
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And quite literally, just goinghead to toe with people and
saying we're just going to tellall the cells and give them
permission and encourage themand support them to just start
doing exactly what they weremeant to do.
And you know, clients just lovethat.
They come back weeks later andthey just say you know, can we
do that thing again?
Because that was, I felt, reallygood for days and days after
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that.
There's all kinds of people whowrite about this stuff the
mind-body connection and theemotional, mental component to
illness and some of them getdismissed.
You know a lot of people liketo call this pseudoscience
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dismissed.
You know a lot of people liketo call this pseudoscience and
you know my immediate reactionto them, of course, is the most
mainstream science in medicineare these double-blind studies.
Every single one has proven theexistence of the placebo effect
, which proves the ability ofthe mind to stimulate healing.
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This is scientifically provenevery time we do a study.
How can it be pseudoscience tosuggest that we can understand
how placebo works and how wemight be able to make use of it?
But when anybody sort of balksat this, I say well, let's
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conduct an experiment.
Nobody can tell you better howyour body works than you.
No one can advise you betterthan you the state and strength
and state of health of your body.
So why wouldn't you conductyour own experiment for your own
purposes, for your own health?
If you make use of some of thistechnique and it actually helps
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you be healthier, then whocares what anybody else says?
Really, quite literally likethat's a waste of time to let
somebody else convince me thatwhat I've experienced isn't real
, and so I suggest it toeverybody.
Some people will conduct thatexperiment and maybe there won't
be a positive health effect,and God bless them off.
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They go Live your life.
You're going to live the lifeyou're meant to live, in my
opinion, and you know I offerwhat I can offer in hopes that
it helps.
There's great resources outthere.
You know writers like LiseBourbon and Bruce Lipton and, of
course, louise Hay, who's, Ithink, for most people who have
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embraced this way of thinking,she kind of represents the
earliest reintroduction of theseideas into society.
And that's the trick isunderstanding that these ideas
are very old.
You know, hundreds, thousandsof years ago, medicine included
a mental, emotional element allthe time, and I think if you're
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a medical practitioner, I mean,nothing stops you from including
this.
Nobody is suggesting don'tadminister the regular medical
treatment, but you can stillhave a positive effect by
changing the words you use, bymaking suggestions, by offering
thoughts, affirmations that arepositive.
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I mean, how can you go wrongthinking a positive thought Like
, how can that be in any wayhurtful?
Right, and you know, I knowthere's some people who would
try to figure out a way thatit's hurtful, but it's.
It's generally, you know, avery positive thing.
So I suggest you just try itfor yourself.
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You just embrace the idea thatyou control your body, your mind
is in control of your body,that the dysfunction of your
body can be affected by yourmind proven by the placebo
effect and that you can changewhat you think.
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You can change how you think.
So you know, louise Hay has herlittle book heal your body.
It's got a chart in it.
Every time a client comes inand says, oh, I've never heard
of that, I hand them the bookand they we lose a half an hour
at the session right therebecause they're just deep dive
into the book, readingeverything they can, flipping
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from condition to condition andrecognizing in themselves sort
of a sympathetic vibration tothese ideas.
And then, of course, they allgo out and buy their own copy of
the book.
I've lost dozens of copies ofthis book, lending it to clients
.
I don't do that anymore.
But it's not an expensive book.
(32:56):
It's $17 on Amazoncom.
Heal your Body by Louise Hay.
It's $17 on Amazoncom.
Heal your Body by Louise Hay.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yeah, I just want to set up a scenario for people in
their minds to really grasp this, and I want you to imagine that
your cells in your body aresuffering.
Right, you've got somethinggoing on and the cells in that
area of the body are sad,they're holding on to something,
and now you're telling themliterally, through thought or
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out loud, when we're sofrustrated with ourselves, that
you're bad.
Right that I recently readsomething where someone calls
their body a jerk.
Right, like, imagine, imaginetelling a part of you that's
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suffering, that's holding on tosomething, that they're a jerk,
or they're bad, or otherwise.
When you put it into thatcontext, you start to feel
compassion, and compassion iswhere you want to be.
(34:15):
It's what you want to be withyour body.
You want to be compassionateand, believe me, I've been there
.
It's hard when you feel likeevery day it's working against
you, but there's a message fromyour body for you and it's just
(34:35):
about finding out that messageand that's about just spending
some time whether it's inhypnosis or meditation or in
silence just connecting andreconnecting to the body.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, it's hard to take that step, to embrace that
you are in control of your body.
You are in control of your bodyEven with thoughts that you
don't know.
You have understandings you'renot conscious of.
At the same time, there's not alot of joy in life if you don't
(35:20):
see your body as a source ofjoy, as something that you can
shape and change and turn intowhat you want.
I mean, there are people whoare deeply embracing that.
They're going to the gym everyday and they're lifting weights
and they're changing their shape.
(35:42):
There are people out theretaking supplements and, you know
, enjoying everything from, youknow sound baths to vibrational
healings.
They're out there, mostimportantly, loving their body
(36:02):
and doing what they can to carefor their body.
It's a neat reframe to say and Isay this every day in the
shower as a reminder I am notthis body.
This body has nothing to dowith who I really am.
I control this body.
I create this body with my mindand I will take care of it.
(36:24):
My body is joy, and I've reallyshifted to that second part
more recently, rather than justsay I'm not this body, I shape
this body, I enjoy this body, Iam living in this body and the
phrase my body is joy is a is anice kind of reframe that puts a
(36:50):
real, a tangible when you spendthe time to really think at a
tangible sensation into thewhole of your body, feel the
words my body is joy, I live inthis body.
These kinds of reframes have ahuge impact on just your mental
(37:14):
state, your state of mind, andit's worth embracing.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Yeah, there's something that comes to mind
that just sort of fell out of mymouth months ago, and there's a
client of mine that when ithappened, she really took it on
and really loved it.
She wrote it on her board inher room.
The saying goes my mind renewsmy body, my body renews my life
(37:42):
Nice, and she really enjoyedthat Nice.
So, yeah, just thoughts to chewon.
Speaker 1 (37:54):
You own your mind and you own your body and nobody
can tell you what's what.
I hope this stuff helps and itcauses you to embrace what
control you have over your body.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Yeah, yeah, reconnect .
Reconnect with your cells, withyour body, with your energy.
All right, have a good day.
We hope you enjoyed today'spodcast and that maybe it helped
even a little.
If you have any questions, wewould love you to send them
along in an email to info atpsalmhypnosiscom.
(38:30):
Thank you for being part of theState of Mind community.
For more information abouthypnosis and the various online
or in-person services we provide, please visit our website,
wwwpssomhypnosiscom.
The link will be in the notesbelow.
While you are there, why don'tyou book a free one-hour journey
meeting with Hilary or Les tolearn more about what hypnosis
(38:53):
is and how you might use it tomake your life what you want it
to be?
Bye for now.
Talk to you tomorrow.
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