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It wasn't so much live becauseno one could join and we didn't
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shit.
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Yep.
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We got some new visits to the website yesterday,
so that I mean something wentout there.
SPEAKER_03 (01:25):
Yeah.
That's right.
So today we're we're talkingabout I am I am statements.
SPEAKER_00 (01:35):
It's not like potatoes.
That's the sweet potatoes.
SPEAKER_03 (01:39):
No, not yams.
Not IM.
It's too early.
But the idea, well, I thinkwe're both gonna come at it at
different angles.
SPEAKER_00 (01:55):
So as we always do.
SPEAKER_03 (01:57):
As we always do.
So today we're talking about IEMstatements, but also looking at
this idea of which I'm learningnow more and more is this idea
of how we have thesepersonalities and uniqueness and
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who we see ourselves as in life.
And then if we were to sort ofstrip all that away, who are we?
And the fastest way that I getthere in my mind is through this
statement of I am.
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I am is a recognition that Iexist.
But maybe I am not these allthese personality traits and
everything that I like to callmyself every day, right?
SPEAKER_00 (03:00):
Well, that's I think one of the first points to make
is so much is going onsubconsciously all the time.
You wouldn't be able to functionif it wasn't.
SPEAKER_03 (03:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (03:14):
Right.
And in the subconscious mind, uhthere's there's kind of a
formulation of your beingness.
There's an identity, and thatidentity has dimensions and
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characteristics.
It has a personality, which is ahabitual kind of thing.
I suppose there are dimensionsof personality that seem or feel
like they're really locked down.
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But there are also dimensions ofyour personality that you've
just created over time.
You know, I love that ChimDispenza thought, you know, if
you have an experience and youhang on to that experience.
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So let's say, you know, we'llstart negative.
You have a bad experience as alittle kid with your mother, and
you hang on to it, and every dayyour experience with your mother
starts with that reference toher and that particular moment
in your life that didn't go sowell, and your interpretation of
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that, and so you start toproject that onto your mother
and say, This is who she is, andthen you accept that mirror back
as this is who I am, and thenevery day it starts to start
with the same thoughts, everyday it starts to start with the
same dispositions, um, and thenit starts to become a
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generalized mood.
And when that generalized moodstarts to become really locked
in, it becomes a life attitude,and when those life attitudes
get really locked in, they startto really become your
personality.
So dimensions of our personalityreally start in a response to
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the experiences we have in life.
The thing about experiences isthey're transient and they
change, right?
Experiences, there's new onesevery moment available to you,
and they change.
They change in terms of how youinterpret them, they change in
terms of the person you are asyou approach them.
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All of these things are anopportunity for change, and all
of these ideas, personality andidentity, they really are based
in the concept of I am.
SPEAKER_01 (06:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (06:09):
My personality, my identity, my typical way of
reacting to things, the way Ilook at this kind of thing, you
know, the way I look at sports,or the way I look at baseball,
or the way I look at food, orthe way I look at friends, or
the way I consider these thingsget locked in and they sit
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behind this world of I am who Iam.
Now, because these things arethe function of experience, and
experience is really a functionof interpretation, and
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experience then gets reinforcedbecause we approach similar
circumstances with similarmental predispositions, and we
start to see everything as thesame experience over and over,
we get up in the day and westart to address the day with
all of this subconsciouspre-programming, predisposition,
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and essentially uh a personalityidentity by saying to yourself,
as Joe Spencer says, if I'mgoing to start my day with all
the same thoughts that I startedyesterday, I just really can't
expect today to be differentthan yesterday.
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And so, what can I do in thisveil of I am?
What can I do in relation tothat that's gonna make this day
different?
And it just starts with I amopen to change, I am open.
SPEAKER_03 (07:58):
Do you think we might have to, like I said in
the beginning, strip ourselvesdown to just the I am statement,
or uh like let go of ourattachments to our personalities
before that can change, or canwe make those incremental
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changes?
SPEAKER_00 (08:19):
Well, I think there's a lot you can do with I
am.
I mean, that's why we teach it alot and why we spend a lot of
time on it.
And I do think that there arelittle, you know, mind
experiments you can kill that.
Right?
I I like this one.
I've used this one quite a fewtimes in groups.
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No, let's say you lost your job.
Would you disappear?
SPEAKER_01 (08:50):
No.
SPEAKER_00 (08:51):
No.
Well then you are not your job.
If you if you lost your favoritetoy, would you disappear?
Well then you are not yourfavorite toy.
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If you lost someone you love,would you disappear?
Well then you are not them.
If you lost you know, Godforbid, if you lost a finger,
would you disappear?
(09:34):
Well then you are not yourfinger.
You can examine your your being,your personality from top to
bottom, and start to come to theconclusion that a whole lot of
things can change in my life.
And I'm still here.
So I must not be that thing.
SPEAKER_03 (09:55):
Yeah, but we tend to attach ourselves to those
things.
SPEAKER_00 (10:00):
Build identity or yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (10:02):
I work a lot with people who I don't know why.
I I always think the the wordgraduating.
They're not graduating, they'reretiring.
I can't, I can't even rememberthe word retiring when they're
graduating.
But they they have lost, theyhave forgotten who they are.
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So it's very hard after theyretire because they've put their
sense of self into their work.
They they thought that's who Iam.
SPEAKER_00 (10:35):
And you layer that subconsciously with the
structure and rigidity to whichthey approach their lives,
right?
For many, many people, career istheir identity.
SPEAKER_02 (10:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (10:49):
And it becomes the most important thing.
SPEAKER_02 (10:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (10:52):
And because it becomes the most important
thing, every other aspect oftheir life is secondary to it.
You know, how many times do youhear people say, oh, sorry, I
can't, I have to work.
SPEAKER_01 (11:04):
Right?
SPEAKER_00 (11:04):
Sorry, I I'm not, I'm not three lambs, I don't
have holidays left.
Yeah.
I am not able to do those kindsof things because I have to go
to work.
And we have our routines and ourstructures that are built around
going to work.
SPEAKER_01 (11:21):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (11:21):
The time we get up, the things that we eat, you
know, getting our coffee in,right?
We're changing our routines.
You and I trying to do thesepodcasts live in the morning.
And if we were rigid to the oldway of life, we'd find
resistance in doing this.
And certainly there'sresistance.
SPEAKER_03 (11:41):
Yeah.
Just like now.
I just checked.
This is this is how we'regetting on right now.
So we're using Zoom to do thesepodcasts.
And I was looking over at thelittle uh microphone, and it's
got this green thing going upand down, showing how loud our
voices are.
And I'm like, hmm, did Iactually add the Samsung Meteor
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mic that's in the big in themiddle of the table as our mic
today?
No, it's the MacBook.
So less might be a little tinyin the back.
Right?
So it's just these getting thesethings going is is hard
sometimes, right?
SPEAKER_00 (12:22):
Change in routine.
Anyway, it's it's it's identity.
And below identity is I am.
You know, I am someone who goesto work, I am someone who works
at this place, I am the nameyour title.
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I am a nurse, I am a doctor, Iam a government clerk, I am and
these are things that we quicklygrab onto, and they mean a lot,
and subconsciously they're very,very powerful.
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So the idea, quite simply, ishow do I change those?
Or how do I make them better?
Or how do I create for myself asense of being right now that's
different from what I am?
People use it a lot in relationto their emotions.
SPEAKER_03 (13:28):
Yeah, we were talking about that in the school
last night or in my trainingschool.
How we attach ourselves to ouremotions, and how we can develop
a personality around ouremotions if we get caught up in
them for too long.
SPEAKER_00 (13:48):
That's that that's saying, uh, you know, an emotion
becomes a mood, becomes anattitude, becomes a personality,
and and it starts with, I am, Iam angry.
Right?
And if you find enough, if ifyou find if in a moment you're
angry and you say to yourself,leave me alone, I'm angry, you
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claim that for yourself and yourspace.
When you look over, it hasbecome for these moments your
identity.
It's a mental pathway, it's ait's a mental structure that you
use all the time, that we useall the time, that I use all the
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time.
And what it can do is lock meinto something that I don't
particularly want.
It can lock me into, you know,uh into a claiming state.
I am, you know, I am angry or Iam happy.
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It's funny how we don't cling tothat one very much.
SPEAKER_03 (14:56):
The happy one?
SPEAKER_00 (14:57):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (14:58):
Yeah.
Yeah, it's so funny how when Iwhen I talk to clients, and
we've mentioned this before onthe podcast, but I think it it's
worth mentioning again.
It just maybe it's a reframe youtell me, but the idea that if we
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can make ourselves feel bad bythinking negatively, not many
people think about how, well, ifyou think I don't want to say
positive, but if you thinkyourself into a more joyful
state or a more happy state or amore peaceful state, think about
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nice things in your life, thinkabout nice past events in your
life, it makes you feel good.
But for some reason, when youmention that to people, they
think it's metaphysical.
Woo-woo.
It's it's the oddest thing.
SPEAKER_00 (16:02):
Well, there's an awareness that can be had that
we are, however way uh you wantto pose it to yourself, you're
free to do so.
I like to think of myself as asoul in a body.
I am a soul in a body, I am nota body with a soul.
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Um, it's a completely differentclaiming of I am.
I like to think of it that waybecause it changes the way I
address things, it changes theway I think of my life
experience.
It's a subtle shift.
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Anyway, so I what I'm driving atis we can choose to not be
primarily in our focus, in ourefforts, and our thoughts, a
body.
But it's pretty normal to dothat.
It's pretty normal to seeyourself as a body.
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It's pretty normal to experiencethe body first.
I mean, you gotta be reallystrong in your mind, not to be
experiencing your body first.
And the body grabs yourattention every minute of the
day, you know, every funnylittle feeling, every sensation,
every change in conditions, yourbody's on full alert because
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your body still thinks it's abody, and your body-mind still
thinks it's a body, and yourbody-mind is predisposed to
protect you, to go to protectionmode, to think in terms of
protection from external attack,whether that's the weather or
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other beings or a tiger orwhatever.
The body is predisposed tosurvival, and the body is going
to grab our attention everyminute, and so it's really easy
to anticipate the negative,anticipate attack, anticipate
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problem.
The body-mind is predisposed togo there.
And so I think that there isthis, I don't know, evolutionary
predisposition to anticipate thenegative, to prepare for the
negative, and to think a lotabout the negative.
SPEAKER_03 (18:34):
Yeah, it's our go-to, right?
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:37):
And and you can't but feel normal, right?
Like that's just normal.
But when it comes to beinghappy, it's not always helpful.
And so for me, the first subtleshift is not it's at as base a
level as I can get.
I am a soul and a body, I am aneternal being.
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In fact, my favorite I am rightnow is I am an eternal being,
and nothing can change that.
And I just like to go there inmy mind.
It really changes the way Iexperience the things going on
in my life.
So, first of all, you know, ifyou're a good old-fashioned
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human being who's out there, youknow, worrying about life,
you're normal.
There's nothing wrong with you.
You've come into this world withthat equipment.
What we're talking about todayis can I use the idea, the
deepest idea of I am, to changethat experience of life.
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To change the way I interpretwhat's going on around me, which
changes my experience.
It changes my mood, absolutely.
And changing my mood createsopportunities.
You know, it's it's really thatsimple.
You know, in a world of people,we tend to avoid, you know,
grumpy old men, right?
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And we tend to be attracted toum giggling little kids.
And I think that we invite moreof what life has to offer by
shifting our emotional state, byshifting our emotional mood, in
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a quite in quite a practicalsense.
Quite apart from anything wemight talk about in terms of you
know quantum physics in thefield and having a a
predisposition vibration thatthat you know collapses in the
field.
Just in terms of justinteracting with other human
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beings and and and outwardconditions, I think that
shifting the I am from thebody's predisposition of
protection to a mentaldisposition of openness and
safety is very, very powerful.
SPEAKER_03 (21:11):
Yeah.
And I do want to touch on theidea of not going for happiness
in life.
And I know that sounds weird tomaybe people listening, but
happiness sells.
We know that it's almost likeweight loss, you know, it sells.
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People want it, but it is, as wetell clients, it's externally
motivated.
It's an externally motivatedemotion.
So something good happens.
We make a sale or we get a newclient.
I'm happy, but how how long doesthat last?
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Might be even just a fewseconds, or it might be a day,
and then we're back to whereverwe were before.
So where we're going or whatwe're going for is more of a
peacefulness, becausepeacefulness is internal.
You don't have those rollercoaster rides of emotions up and
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down.
Doesn't mean that you can't behappy or you can't be sad or
angry, but you sort of roll inthis in this band that is much
more, it's it's not so wide,right?
If you think of an emotionalscale going up and down and up
and down, you sort of sit inthis band that's I don't know, a
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little more thin or not as wide.
I hope I can see it in my mind.
I'm trying to explain it, but Iget you.
You know what I'm saying.
Well, you know what I'm talkingabout.
SPEAKER_00 (22:50):
We talk about this all the time, but yeah, there's
a couple of good books outthere.
Uh one's called HappinessHypothesis, and the other one's
called Stumbling on Happiness.
There was a time in my lifeabout 25 years ago when I was a
big, yeah, I was a big uhfollower of the Dalai Lama who
talked about a lot abouthappiness.
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And I wanted to understand whathappiness was.
And the science that thepsychologists who studied this
stuff have generally found isthat happiness is an emotion, if
you define emotions as a feelingresponse to your experience, a
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feeling response to what'shappening around you.
So just as something can makeyou sad, something can make you
happy, which means happiness canonly be a temporary thing, like
every other emotion, and thatthe secret to happiness is
improvement.
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That in fact, you can takesomebody who's you know smashed
a thumb with a hammer, andthey're going through what
they're going through hurt andpain and frustration, and then
you give them a painkiller andyou put some ice on it, and in
fact, you'll find that theystart to get happy because the
pain gets better.
When conditions improve,happiness is the emotional
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response, and it's kind of neatthat they've taken that time to
discover that to take that evenfurther, you know, as a refrain.
The question is really what isour natural state?
SPEAKER_03 (24:44):
Anxiety.
SPEAKER_00 (24:46):
Well, and and that's I think that's emotions are
habitual, right?
Yeah.
That's it exactly.
Emotions are habitual, andemotions are a response to an
interpretation of what's goingon around us.
And when yesterday we wereanxious about something and the
conditions haven't changed,we're gonna be anxious about it
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today.
We're going to continue to seeconditions around us to be the
same, and we're gonna constantlygive it that same emotional
response.
And I discovered this years ago,and I try to remind myself of it
regularly.
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My natural state is one ofopenness and love and joy.
That is what we really are inour most natural state, and you
you see proof of that in kids.
Yeah, right.
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Kids are resilient, they don'tcling to emotions, kids are not
interpreting everything thathappens as if it's permanent or
it's about them.
Kids are playful, imaginative,creative, this is all natural to
them.
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It's only when we'vesuccessfully indoctrinated them
into ways of thinking and beingas young adults and then older
adults, do they start to stepaway from that natural
predisposition.
And so I think that that that isa worthwhile approach.
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Just like I am a soul and abody, I am naturally joyful, and
what's going on are the thingsthat interfere with my joy.
So my thoughts, myinterpretation of my life, these
are actually interfering with mynatural state.
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And if I could manage those, ifI could resolve those, if I
could eliminate those, mynatural state of joy will come
to be.
And I think almost everybodyexperiences this on a day off,
right?
Everybody has everybody's goingto work, and then everybody has
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a day off.
You know, your day off, when youwake up in the morning, you're
like, I don't have to go towork, and smile comes on your
face, and in many occasions, youcould think of something you
want to do, like go to thecoffee shop and call it
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something, and this natural joystarts to come forward, and it's
it's it is not a reaction towhat's coming because you wake
up, it's a day off, you don'teven know what's coming, right?
It's a it's a removal of thethought patterns and the thought
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forms and the conditions thatyou normally engage that cause
you to engage all those oldpredispositions and emotions.
You know, I I'm I'm a worker, Ihave this job, I do this kind of
thing.
So then the focus becomes nothow do I be a better person, how
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do I be more joyful?
It's how do I manage the thingsthat are interfering with my
natural joy?
How do I think about theconditions of my life
differently?
SPEAKER_03 (28:42):
I wanted to give an example while we were talking
there.
I thought of an example forlisteners.
We talk about how kids arenaturally joyful.
Unless put in situations wherethey're they can't be, where
they feel like they can't be.
It brought up to it brought tomind the conference last week or
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a couple weeks ago now.
And we saw a live stage show.
It was small, smaller thannormal, but it was still fun and
and the people that got up theretotally went into their
subconscious being.
And a child lives in theiralpha-theta state, their
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subconscious mind.
Right?
They've got castles around themand they can build moats, and
they, you know, they're afirefighter, and they're, you
know, they they they havefriends that are invisible to
us, you know, and so they'rethey're living in this in this
state.
And when I saw the people onstage, remove the barriers that
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we put on ourselves.
Yeah, but I might look silly.
Right, or I might I might feelstupid doing that, which we do
so often.
You saw these people on stagestart playing instruments when
there was nothing there and theystarted talking like aliens, you
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know, or using their phone ortheir shoe as a phone.
And so it's really removing thatthat barrier to, let's say, joy
or peace or their theirsubconscious mind, where we
where we get caught up in whatwe're gonna look like or how
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we're gonna be.
I know that I reach that statewhen I get excited about
something, and then I starttalking and talking, and then
things come out, and I'm like,oh shoot, I take that back, or
like I look stupid, or you know,I I just get really out there
and silly when I'm excited aboutsomething.
And that's not a bad thing, butI sure do feel afterwards like,
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oh, maybe, maybe that was maybeI looked stupid or you know, or
sounded stupid.
SPEAKER_00 (31:08):
Yeah, I I really think that there is a more
natural human state that isn'tblanketed in all these all these
fears, all these predispositionsto worry, to to see ourselves as
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a being who is juggling so manydimensions of our lives, and
when we step away from that,there's a much more natural,
joyful state, an excitementabout life.
Yeah.
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So then the question is, youknow, I I'll use this analogy.
I had a buddy back in highschool, he had this car that the
starter motor was gone.
But it was a it was a standardtransmission.
So it had a clutch and it hadgears and stuff.
And every time we'd park andshut it off, the only way we
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could get it started again wasto push it.
So a car with a standardtransmission, if you step on the
clutch and you put it in firstgear, and then you just start
pushing it moving forward, whenyou let the clutch out, that'll
start the engine.
And I think of that as a perfectanalogy to I am statements.
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I am statements.
I wake up in the morning, theflood of yesterday comes
charging in.
Probably a list of worries andconcerns, maybe in there,
muddled in there, some to-do'sthat I gotta get to done today.
And so it's it's just this floodof old thoughts coming back in.
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And I think that there's hugeopportunity in the morning, and
it's become my practice, toreally work on grabbing your
thoughts first thing in themorning.
Grabbing your thoughts andfinding a way of turning what
would otherwise be callednegative thoughts that are
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generating negative emotions,worry and fear, and anxiety, and
frustration, and anger, and allthese things that interfere with
our ability to be at peace.
And the power of an I amstatement, finding the ones that
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work for you, that address mostmeaningfully the sort of
predisposition identity that youhave that causes life to feel
like a lot of work, a lot ofeffort, a lot of resistance.
SPEAKER_03 (34:06):
And I think if I may add to that, I think it's it's
not about you know, when life istough and it it's tough
sometimes, right?
It's not about sitting there andthinking I am statements and
then jumping out of bed,woo-hoo, life, you know, it's
about that little bit of peacethat may come from that.
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And it's just building on thatlittle bit of peace.
SPEAKER_00 (34:32):
I think that an I am statement doesn't isn't the most
effective when it's justcontradictory.
If I wake up and I'm about tosay to myself, I'm worried, I to
say I'm not worried is notreally helpful.
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But I think that there are I amstatements that can ease and
slowly shift, you know.
I I think of the metaphor of thethe big ship that's going to
turn 180 degrees.
It only does that a few degreesat a time.
SPEAKER_01 (35:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (35:15):
It takes a long time, takes a lot of I hand.
SPEAKER_01 (35:19):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (35:20):
But even, you know, even if you can shift that 10
degrees, you're gonna change theplace you end up.
You know, you're gonna changethe way your day feels.
SPEAKER_03 (35:32):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (35:33):
And so, you know, to just use that as the example,
you know, I am worried.
It becomes not a contradictorystatement to say I'm smart.
I am capable of planning.
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I am creative.
I am capable of coming up withnew ideas.
I am strong.
I am smart.
I am creative.
I am working on this now.
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I am changing the way I feelabout this now.
I am coming up with solutionsnow.
I am capable of creatingsolutions.
I am capable of addressingdifficulty.
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I am successful at addressingdifficulty.
I am someone who has always beensuccessful at addressing
difficulty.
I am not alone.
I am a friend to many people.
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I am loved.
I am supported by those in mylife.
I don't know that you've shiftedthe ship 180 degrees with those,
but they sure feel differentthan I am worried.
(37:34):
I am in trouble.
You know, these kinds ofthoughts are no matter which way
you go with I am statements,you're claiming.
SPEAKER_03 (37:50):
Yeah, I don't think we lay there in the morning and
think I am worried.
I think it's just thissubconscious stuff going on,
right?
So if we can give thesubconscious mind something that
is something that they it canaccept.
(38:15):
You know, I'll never sit thereand tell a weight loss client,
oh, you're gonna lose 10 poundsby next week.
Because their subconscious mindwould never accept that.
It's gonna push, push, push,back, right?
So again, like you said, you'reyou're not saying, I'm not
worried, you know, I'm not introuble.
SPEAKER_00 (38:34):
You're giving it these ideas that maybe it can
get on board with the well, Ithink that when you claim a
different emotional state, whenyou claim a different approach,
thought approach, when you claimthat, you make shifts.
(38:59):
And I think the magic is inclaiming Iambs that are moving
towards the positive that youreally want, rather than um
saying, Well, this is thecondition of my life, this is
the way it is.
You know, I have proof.
(39:19):
Yeah, I'm a mess.
Well, that's what you'reclaiming when you say that.
That's where you're moving youremotional state.
That's quite literally diggingan emotional hole and fortifying
it by repeating it.
(39:41):
And no matter how true you mightbe convinced it is, it's not
helpful.
It's not at all helpful.
And if anybody should be helpingyou, it is you.
(40:06):
And we we miss the opportunityto use our mind to help
ourselves.
And I think that that startswith the simplest of reframes.
I am not my thoughts, I am thethinker.
I can change what I think.
(40:28):
I am the thinker.
These are just thoughts.
I don't have to hang on to them.
You know, uh Luke Howard at theconvention, he he taught a
little thing and I loved it.
He just said, which weighs more?
The thought of a feather or thethought of 50,000 pounds?
SPEAKER_03 (40:54):
Interesting.
SPEAKER_00 (40:56):
And they're both thoughts, and neither of them
weigh anything.
We we step into the meaning ofour thoughts when we have them.
I am not my thoughts, I am thethinker.
Thoughts come to me all thetime, fast and furious, every
(41:16):
day, whether I want them or not.
These are habitual, thoughts arehabitual.
It's that study that's beenrepeated over and over and over.
The numbers change, but thetheme remains the same.
You have about 60,000 thoughtsin a day, about 3,000 of them
are new and creative andpositive.
The rest are all thoughts youthought before and are largely
(41:39):
negative.
That's the way people are.
I think they talk about anoverall human negativity bias.
But these are your thoughts,they're habitual.
Embrace the idea that yourthoughts are mostly out of
control.
They're just doing the thingthat they did yesterday, over
(41:59):
and over and over, and you havelegitimate reasons for thinking
those thoughts at the time, andnobody's criticizing that.
You're really, really normal.
Everybody goes through this.
But then you change to I am thethinker, I am not my thoughts.
I am the thinker, I am not mythoughts.
And in that comes theopportunity to change what you
(42:22):
think, to actually choose whatyou think.
Right?
So imagine yourself thismorning, maybe you've already
been there, but if you haven'tbeen there yet, getting in the
shower and allowing yourself toobserve your thoughts.
When you get into that morninggrooming routine, and all the
(42:43):
thoughts of the day starttumbling into your head.
And just take a breath and say,I am the thinker, I am not my
thoughts, I can change mythoughts.
I am not going to think aboutthis.
There's absolutely no dimensionof this particular problem that
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I haven't already thoughtthrough and know that it's a
problem.
I've already thought it through.
I'm already quite clear whatproblem I'm in.
I don't need to think about itanymore.
What I need to think about isjust how creative and strong and
capable I am.
And that's what will open thedoor for me to become different
(43:25):
in the way I address thatproblem.
Possibly more powerful in theway I address that problem, that
issue, or that thing.
So be easy on yourself.
Thoughts are habitual, thoughtsdon't have any particular
weight.
You can let go of a thought asfast as you thought of it.
You can create a new thought asfast as you want.
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Our suggestion is to use I amsavings.
I am safe.
I am capable.
I am learning all the time.
I am growing and becoming everyday.
(44:10):
I am moving through thesecircumstances.
I am creating new circumstancesfor myself.
And just grab those big IMs andstart claiming that territory
for yourself.
There's tons of science thatsays that's going to change your
neuropl your neural networksbecause of neuroplasticity.
(44:35):
I fall into my old repeatedthoughts, I'm fortifying my
neural networks.
I deliberately thinkdifferently, I'm changing my
neural networks.
SPEAKER_03 (44:47):
And I think it has to, it has to be deliberate in
the beginning.
SPEAKER_00 (44:50):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (44:51):
Like it has to be choice.
SPEAKER_00 (44:53):
Yeah.
And, you know, that's part ofwhat we do, right?
We help people shift thosethoughts.
SPEAKER_03 (45:00):
And um and we're certainly not gurus over here.
You know, we we struggle just asmuch as anybody else.
But I think uh, you know, we wehave seen through ourselves and
others these changes, right?
So it's I think important toshare like we are doing.
SPEAKER_00 (45:23):
Yeah, so I guess all in all, the the the suggestion
is to first recognize that yourthoughts are habits and they
don't have to be.
You can change habits.
The best way to get rid of a badhabit is to replace it with
another habit.
(45:43):
And it doesn't take long tocreate habits, and everything
that you do with your mind,you're practicing.
So you might as well practicethings that are helpful.
I am not my thoughts, I am thethinker.
I can change what I think.
(46:06):
I can think randomly.
Place yourself in yourfive-year-old mindset when life
was an adventure.
Just imagine yourself at fivefor a little while.
(46:27):
There are so many ways to useyour mind to help you and
improve your experience.
SPEAKER_03 (46:38):
We have training coming up this week.
Did you want to talk about whatyou're doing today?
SPEAKER_00 (46:45):
No, you can you talk about what you're doing.
SPEAKER_03 (46:47):
I don't know what I'm doing.
SPEAKER_00 (46:53):
So I'm I'm setting the stage for a whole course in
eaves.
So let's what what we're gonnaexplain is a series of short
videos that embrace the ideathat maybe a lot of our course
(47:14):
thoughts are not helpful andthey're not accurate, and that
basic fundamental reframes,thinking of things differently,
recognizing uh the truth ofthings creates a whole
subconscious predisposition toexperience your life
differently.
(47:35):
And so a lot of the stuff Italked about this morning, I'm
going to be talking about inthis course.
It's going to set the stage forwhat a reframe is, how reframes
work, where the positive outcomeof reframes are.
And then I'm going to give aseries of reframes that I found
(47:56):
very, very helpful with myclients, helpful in my own life,
but very, very helpful with myclients.
And that will be done in aseries of I'm going to attempt
to be short videos to just coveroff some simple ideas and to
fortify those ideas with somemeditations.
(48:17):
So we'll sort of establish atalk about some ideas, and then
we'll do a little meditation totry to lock that in.
And I'm going to be doing thoseover the next couple of weeks,
whole series.
I've got the first three sort oflocked down yesterday, and gonna
try to record those today.
SPEAKER_03 (48:38):
Yeah, and then they'll be found in the
classrooms tab on school.
There's a classroom tab calledReframes.
It's empty now, but it's readyto go with those teachings later
this week.
Excuse me, I think Thursday.
(49:22):
And just asking our body,ourselves, what's going on?
What are you holding on to?
And so, you know, I I trainhypnotists to do that, but I
want to bring it, you know, intothe sphere of teaching
individuals how to do that ifthey're feeling like, oh, what's
(49:43):
going on in my body, or what amI holding on to, or why do I
have a pain in my knee, or youknow, and seeing where it takes
you and the and the process workto do when you get there.
Your subconscious mind, youryour cells are your body is
intelligent, right?
Every cell knows what it'sdoing, but they do hold on to in
(50:09):
the scientific model, cellularmemory, in the metaphysical
model, they're holding on tosomething from the past where
they I haven't seen it differentyet, but they will take you
there to what it's actuallyneeding to shift.
So yeah, I'm gonna be teachingthat.
(50:30):
I think if I haven't saidhaven't said it already on
Thursday.
Still trying to figure out ifI'm gonna do that live right
now, but it will definitely bein the school classrooms at the
end of Thursday.
SPEAKER_02 (50:48):
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Yeah.
Okay.
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Okay, so we are on the line.
SPEAKER_00 (00:16):
Sunny day.
Yeah.
Beautiful sunny day.
The sun is up, clocks haveturned back.
So the sun seems to be gettingup earlier.
SPEAKER_03 (00:27):
It is.
There was a beautiful cloud thatI sent my mom, and it's just a
gorgeous day.
SPEAKER_00 (00:33):
Audio is here.
Wants to know what we're doing.
SPEAKER_03 (00:39):
She's thinking, what is this?
Going live every morning.
Well, yesterday we went live andit wasn't so much live.
It wasn't so much live becauseno one could join and we didn't
record it.
SPEAKER_00 (00:56):
Probably the best podcast ever.
SPEAKER_03 (00:58):
Yeah, maybe until 45 minutes later we're going, oh
shit.
That's funny.
SPEAKER_00 (01:05):
So it works and doesn't work.
SPEAKER_03 (01:08):
Yeah.
So I think praying that it'srecording.
I see that it's recording, solet's help.
SPEAKER_00 (01:16):
Hoping that people have joined us.
SPEAKER_03 (01:18):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (01:19):
We got some new visits to the website yesterday,
so that I mean something wentout there.
SPEAKER_03 (01:25):
Yeah.
That's right.
So today we're we're talkingabout I am I am statements.
SPEAKER_00 (01:35):
It's not like potatoes.
That's the sweet potatoes.
SPEAKER_03 (01:39):
No, not yams.
Not IM.
It's too early.
But the idea, well, I thinkwe're both gonna come at it at
different angles.
SPEAKER_00 (01:55):
So as we always do.
SPEAKER_03 (01:57):
As we always do.
So today we're talking about IEMstatements, but also looking at
this idea of which I'm learningnow more and more is this idea
of how we have thesepersonalities and uniqueness and
(02:18):
who we see ourselves as in life.
And then if we were to sort ofstrip all that away, who are we?
And the fastest way that I getthere in my mind is through this
statement of I am.
(02:38):
I am is a recognition that Iexist.
But maybe I am not these allthese personality traits and
everything that I like to callmyself every day, right?
SPEAKER_00 (03:00):
Well, that's I think one of the first points to make
is so much is going onsubconsciously all the time.
You wouldn't be able to functionif it wasn't.
SPEAKER_03 (03:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (03:14):
Right.
And in the subconscious mind, uhthere's there's kind of a
formulation of your beingness.
There's an identity, and thatidentity has dimensions and
(03:35):
characteristics.
It has a personality, which is ahabitual kind of thing.
I suppose there are dimensionsof personality that seem or feel
like they're really locked down.
(03:57):
But there are also dimensions ofyour personality that you've
just created over time.
You know, I love that ChimDispenza thought, you know, if
you have an experience and youhang on to that experience.
(04:17):
So let's say, you know, we'llstart negative.
You have a bad experience as alittle kid with your mother, and
you hang on to it, and every dayyour experience with your mother
starts with that reference toher and that particular moment
in your life that didn't go sowell, and your interpretation of
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that, and so you start toproject that onto your mother
and say, This is who she is, andthen you accept that mirror back
as this is who I am, and thenevery day it starts to start
with the same thoughts, everyday it starts to start with the
same dispositions, um, and thenit starts to become a
(05:03):
generalized mood.
And when that generalized moodstarts to become really locked
in, it becomes a life attitude,and when those life attitudes
get really locked in, they startto really become your
personality.
So dimensions of our personalityreally start in a response to
(05:27):
the experiences we have in life.
The thing about experiences isthey're transient and they
change, right?
Experiences, there's new onesevery moment available to you,
and they change.
They change in terms of how youinterpret them, they change in
terms of the person you are asyou approach them.
(05:52):
All of these things are anopportunity for change, and all
of these ideas, personality andidentity, they really are based
in the concept of I am.
SPEAKER_01 (06:07):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (06:09):
My personality, my identity, my typical way of
reacting to things, the way Ilook at this kind of thing, you
know, the way I look at sports,or the way I look at baseball,
or the way I look at food, orthe way I look at friends, or
the way I consider these thingsget locked in and they sit
(06:32):
behind this world of I am who Iam.
Now, because these things arethe function of experience, and
experience is really a functionof interpretation, and
(06:54):
experience then gets reinforcedbecause we approach similar
circumstances with similarmental predispositions, and we
start to see everything as thesame experience over and over,
we get up in the day and westart to address the day with
all of this subconsciouspre-programming, predisposition,
(07:16):
and essentially uh a personalityidentity by saying to yourself,
as Joe Spencer says, if I'mgoing to start my day with all
the same thoughts that I startedyesterday, I just really can't
expect today to be differentthan yesterday.
(07:36):
And so, what can I do in thisveil of I am?
What can I do in relation tothat that's gonna make this day
different?
And it just starts with I amopen to change, I am open.
SPEAKER_03 (07:58):
Do you think we might have to, like I said in
the beginning, strip ourselvesdown to just the I am statement,
or uh like let go of ourattachments to our personalities
before that can change, or canwe make those incremental
(08:18):
changes?
SPEAKER_00 (08:19):
Well, I think there's a lot you can do with I
am.
I mean, that's why we teach it alot and why we spend a lot of
time on it.
And I do think that there arelittle, you know, mind
experiments you can kill that.
Right?
I I like this one.
I've used this one quite a fewtimes in groups.
(08:40):
No, let's say you lost your job.
Would you disappear?
SPEAKER_01 (08:50):
No.
SPEAKER_00 (08:51):
No.
Well then you are not your job.
If you if you lost your favoritetoy, would you disappear?
Well then you are not yourfavorite toy.
(09:12):
If you lost someone you love,would you disappear?
Well then you are not them.
If you lost you know, Godforbid, if you lost a finger,
would you disappear?
(09:34):
Well then you are not yourfinger.
You can examine your your being,your personality from top to
bottom, and start to come to theconclusion that a whole lot of
things can change in my life.
And I'm still here.
So I must not be that thing.
SPEAKER_03 (09:55):
Yeah, but we tend to attach ourselves to those
things.
SPEAKER_00 (10:00):
Build identity or yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (10:02):
I work a lot with people who I don't know why.
I I always think the the wordgraduating.
They're not graduating, they'reretiring.
I can't, I can't even rememberthe word retiring when they're
graduating.
But they they have lost, theyhave forgotten who they are.
(10:24):
So it's very hard after theyretire because they've put their
sense of self into their work.
They they thought that's who Iam.
SPEAKER_00 (10:35):
And you layer that subconsciously with the
structure and rigidity to whichthey approach their lives,
right?
For many, many people, career istheir identity.
SPEAKER_02 (10:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (10:49):
And it becomes the most important thing.
SPEAKER_02 (10:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (10:52):
And because it becomes the most important
thing, every other aspect oftheir life is secondary to it.
You know, how many times do youhear people say, oh, sorry, I
can't, I have to work.
SPEAKER_01 (11:04):
Right?
SPEAKER_00 (11:04):
Sorry, I I'm not, I'm not three lambs, I don't
have holidays left.
Yeah.
I am not able to do those kindsof things because I have to go
to work.
And we have our routines and ourstructures that are built around
going to work.
SPEAKER_01 (11:21):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (11:21):
The time we get up, the things that we eat, you
know, getting our coffee in,right?
We're changing our routines.
You and I trying to do thesepodcasts live in the morning.
And if we were rigid to the oldway of life, we'd find
resistance in doing this.
And certainly there'sresistance.
SPEAKER_03 (11:41):
Yeah.
Just like now.
I just checked.
This is this is how we'regetting on right now.
So we're using Zoom to do thesepodcasts.
And I was looking over at thelittle uh microphone, and it's
got this green thing going upand down, showing how loud our
voices are.
And I'm like, hmm, did Iactually add the Samsung Meteor
(12:04):
mic that's in the big in themiddle of the table as our mic
today?
No, it's the MacBook.
So less might be a little tinyin the back.
Right?
So it's just these getting thesethings going is is hard
sometimes, right?
SPEAKER_00 (12:22):
Change in routine.
Anyway, it's it's it's identity.
And below identity is I am.
You know, I am someone who goesto work, I am someone who works
at this place, I am the nameyour title.
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I am a nurse, I am a doctor, Iam a government clerk, I am and
these are things that we quicklygrab onto, and they mean a lot,
and subconsciously they're very,very powerful.
(13:03):
So the idea, quite simply, ishow do I change those?
Or how do I make them better?
Or how do I create for myself asense of being right now that's
different from what I am?
People use it a lot in relationto their emotions.
SPEAKER_03 (13:28):
Yeah, we were talking about that in the school
last night or in my trainingschool.
How we attach ourselves to ouremotions, and how we can develop
a personality around ouremotions if we get caught up in
them for too long.
SPEAKER_00 (13:48):
That's that that's saying, uh, you know, an emotion
becomes a mood, becomes anattitude, becomes a personality,
and and it starts with, I am, Iam angry.
Right?
And if you find enough, if ifyou find if in a moment you're
angry and you say to yourself,leave me alone, I'm angry, you
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claim that for yourself and yourspace.
When you look over, it hasbecome for these moments your
identity.
It's a mental pathway, it's ait's a mental structure that you
use all the time, that we useall the time, that I use all the
(14:33):
time.
And what it can do is lock meinto something that I don't
particularly want.
It can lock me into, you know,uh into a claiming state.
I am, you know, I am angry or Iam happy.
(14:53):
It's funny how we don't cling tothat one very much.
SPEAKER_03 (14:56):
The happy one?
SPEAKER_00 (14:57):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (14:58):
Yeah.
Yeah, it's so funny how when Iwhen I talk to clients, and
we've mentioned this before onthe podcast, but I think it it's
worth mentioning again.
It just maybe it's a reframe youtell me, but the idea that if we
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can make ourselves feel bad bythinking negatively, not many
people think about how, well, ifyou think I don't want to say
positive, but if you thinkyourself into a more joyful
state or a more happy state or amore peaceful state, think about
(15:43):
nice things in your life, thinkabout nice past events in your
life, it makes you feel good.
But for some reason, when youmention that to people, they
think it's metaphysical.
Woo-woo.
It's it's the oddest thing.
SPEAKER_00 (16:02):
Well, there's an awareness that can be had that
we are, however way uh you wantto pose it to yourself, you're
free to do so.
I like to think of myself as asoul in a body.
I am a soul in a body, I am nota body with a soul.
(16:30):
Um, it's a completely differentclaiming of I am.
I like to think of it that waybecause it changes the way I
address things, it changes theway I think of my life
experience.
It's a subtle shift.
(16:51):
Anyway, so I what I'm driving atis we can choose to not be
primarily in our focus, in ourefforts, and our thoughts, a
body.
But it's pretty normal to dothat.
It's pretty normal to seeyourself as a body.
(17:13):
It's pretty normal to experiencethe body first.
I mean, you gotta be reallystrong in your mind, not to be
experiencing your body first.
And the body grabs yourattention every minute of the
day, you know, every funnylittle feeling, every sensation,
every change in conditions, yourbody's on full alert because
(17:33):
your body still thinks it's abody, and your body-mind still
thinks it's a body, and yourbody-mind is predisposed to
protect you, to go to protectionmode, to think in terms of
protection from external attack,whether that's the weather or
(17:54):
other beings or a tiger orwhatever.
The body is predisposed tosurvival, and the body is going
to grab our attention everyminute, and so it's really easy
to anticipate the negative,anticipate attack, anticipate
(18:14):
problem.
The body-mind is predisposed togo there.
And so I think that there isthis, I don't know, evolutionary
predisposition to anticipate thenegative, to prepare for the
negative, and to think a lotabout the negative.
SPEAKER_03 (18:34):
Yeah, it's our go-to, right?
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (18:37):
And and you can't but feel normal, right?
Like that's just normal.
But when it comes to beinghappy, it's not always helpful.
And so for me, the first subtleshift is not it's at as base a
level as I can get.
I am a soul and a body, I am aneternal being.
(19:04):
In fact, my favorite I am rightnow is I am an eternal being,
and nothing can change that.
And I just like to go there inmy mind.
It really changes the way Iexperience the things going on
in my life.
So, first of all, you know, ifyou're a good old-fashioned
(19:25):
human being who's out there, youknow, worrying about life,
you're normal.
There's nothing wrong with you.
You've come into this world withthat equipment.
What we're talking about todayis can I use the idea, the
deepest idea of I am, to changethat experience of life.
(19:46):
To change the way I interpretwhat's going on around me, which
changes my experience.
It changes my mood, absolutely.
And changing my mood createsopportunities.
You know, it's it's really thatsimple.
You know, in a world of people,we tend to avoid, you know,
grumpy old men, right?
(20:09):
And we tend to be attracted toum giggling little kids.
And I think that we invite moreof what life has to offer by
shifting our emotional state, byshifting our emotional mood, in
(20:30):
a quite in quite a practicalsense.
Quite apart from anything wemight talk about in terms of you
know quantum physics in thefield and having a a
predisposition vibration thatthat you know collapses in the
field.
Just in terms of justinteracting with other human
(20:53):
beings and and and outwardconditions, I think that
shifting the I am from thebody's predisposition of
protection to a mentaldisposition of openness and
safety is very, very powerful.
SPEAKER_03 (21:11):
Yeah.
And I do want to touch on theidea of not going for happiness
in life.
And I know that sounds weird tomaybe people listening, but
happiness sells.
We know that it's almost likeweight loss, you know, it sells.
(21:32):
People want it, but it is, as wetell clients, it's externally
motivated.
It's an externally motivatedemotion.
So something good happens.
We make a sale or we get a newclient.
I'm happy, but how how long doesthat last?
(21:54):
Might be even just a fewseconds, or it might be a day,
and then we're back to whereverwe were before.
So where we're going or whatwe're going for is more of a
peacefulness, becausepeacefulness is internal.
You don't have those rollercoaster rides of emotions up and
(22:17):
down.
Doesn't mean that you can't behappy or you can't be sad or
angry, but you sort of roll inthis in this band that is much
more, it's it's not so wide,right?
If you think of an emotionalscale going up and down and up
and down, you sort of sit inthis band that's I don't know, a
(22:41):
little more thin or not as wide.
I hope I can see it in my mind.
I'm trying to explain it, but Iget you.
You know what I'm saying.
Well, you know what I'm talkingabout.
SPEAKER_00 (22:50):
We talk about this all the time, but yeah, there's
a couple of good books outthere.
Uh one's called HappinessHypothesis, and the other one's
called Stumbling on Happiness.
There was a time in my lifeabout 25 years ago when I was a
big, yeah, I was a big uhfollower of the Dalai Lama who
talked about a lot abouthappiness.
(23:12):
And I wanted to understand whathappiness was.
And the science that thepsychologists who studied this
stuff have generally found isthat happiness is an emotion, if
you define emotions as a feelingresponse to your experience, a
(23:33):
feeling response to what'shappening around you.
So just as something can makeyou sad, something can make you
happy, which means happiness canonly be a temporary thing, like
every other emotion, and thatthe secret to happiness is
improvement.
(23:54):
That in fact, you can takesomebody who's you know smashed
a thumb with a hammer, andthey're going through what
they're going through hurt andpain and frustration, and then
you give them a painkiller andyou put some ice on it, and in
fact, you'll find that theystart to get happy because the
pain gets better.
When conditions improve,happiness is the emotional
(24:18):
response, and it's kind of neatthat they've taken that time to
discover that to take that evenfurther, you know, as a refrain.
The question is really what isour natural state?
SPEAKER_03 (24:44):
Anxiety.
SPEAKER_00 (24:46):
Well, and and that's I think that's emotions are
habitual, right?
Yeah.
That's it exactly.
Emotions are habitual, andemotions are a response to an
interpretation of what's goingon around us.
And when yesterday we wereanxious about something and the
conditions haven't changed,we're gonna be anxious about it
(25:08):
today.
We're going to continue to seeconditions around us to be the
same, and we're gonna constantlygive it that same emotional
response.
And I discovered this years ago,and I try to remind myself of it
regularly.
(25:30):
My natural state is one ofopenness and love and joy.
That is what we really are inour most natural state, and you
you see proof of that in kids.
Yeah, right.
(25:51):
Kids are resilient, they don'tcling to emotions, kids are not
interpreting everything thathappens as if it's permanent or
it's about them.
Kids are playful, imaginative,creative, this is all natural to
them.
(26:12):
It's only when we'vesuccessfully indoctrinated them
into ways of thinking and beingas young adults and then older
adults, do they start to stepaway from that natural
predisposition.
And so I think that that that isa worthwhile approach.
(26:34):
Just like I am a soul and abody, I am naturally joyful, and
what's going on are the thingsthat interfere with my joy.
So my thoughts, myinterpretation of my life, these
are actually interfering with mynatural state.
(26:56):
And if I could manage those, ifI could resolve those, if I
could eliminate those, mynatural state of joy will come
to be.
And I think almost everybodyexperiences this on a day off,
right?
Everybody has everybody's goingto work, and then everybody has
(27:19):
a day off.
You know, your day off, when youwake up in the morning, you're
like, I don't have to go towork, and smile comes on your
face, and in many occasions, youcould think of something you
want to do, like go to thecoffee shop and call it
(27:40):
something, and this natural joystarts to come forward, and it's
it's it is not a reaction towhat's coming because you wake
up, it's a day off, you don'teven know what's coming, right?
It's a it's a removal of thethought patterns and the thought
(28:01):
forms and the conditions thatyou normally engage that cause
you to engage all those oldpredispositions and emotions.
You know, I I'm I'm a worker, Ihave this job, I do this kind of
thing.
So then the focus becomes nothow do I be a better person, how
(28:25):
do I be more joyful?
It's how do I manage the thingsthat are interfering with my
natural joy?
How do I think about theconditions of my life
differently?
SPEAKER_03 (28:42):
I wanted to give an example while we were talking
there.
I thought of an example forlisteners.
We talk about how kids arenaturally joyful.
Unless put in situations wherethey're they can't be, where
they feel like they can't be.
It brought up to it brought tomind the conference last week or
(29:06):
a couple weeks ago now.
And we saw a live stage show.
It was small, smaller thannormal, but it was still fun and
and the people that got up theretotally went into their
subconscious being.
And a child lives in theiralpha-theta state, their
(29:32):
subconscious mind.
Right?
They've got castles around themand they can build moats, and
they, you know, they're afirefighter, and they're, you
know, they they they havefriends that are invisible to
us, you know, and so they'rethey're living in this in this
state.
And when I saw the people onstage, remove the barriers that
(29:55):
we put on ourselves.
Yeah, but I might look silly.
Right, or I might I might feelstupid doing that, which we do
so often.
You saw these people on stagestart playing instruments when
there was nothing there and theystarted talking like aliens, you
(30:16):
know, or using their phone ortheir shoe as a phone.
And so it's really removing thatthat barrier to, let's say, joy
or peace or their theirsubconscious mind, where we
where we get caught up in whatwe're gonna look like or how
(30:37):
we're gonna be.
I know that I reach that statewhen I get excited about
something, and then I starttalking and talking, and then
things come out, and I'm like,oh shoot, I take that back, or
like I look stupid, or you know,I I just get really out there
and silly when I'm excited aboutsomething.
And that's not a bad thing, butI sure do feel afterwards like,
(31:00):
oh, maybe, maybe that was maybeI looked stupid or you know, or
sounded stupid.
SPEAKER_00 (31:08):
Yeah, I I really think that there is a more
natural human state that isn'tblanketed in all these all these
fears, all these predispositionsto worry, to to see ourselves as
(31:34):
a being who is juggling so manydimensions of our lives, and
when we step away from that,there's a much more natural,
joyful state, an excitementabout life.
Yeah.
(31:57):
So then the question is, youknow, I I'll use this analogy.
I had a buddy back in highschool, he had this car that the
starter motor was gone.
But it was a it was a standardtransmission.
So it had a clutch and it hadgears and stuff.
And every time we'd park andshut it off, the only way we
(32:20):
could get it started again wasto push it.
So a car with a standardtransmission, if you step on the
clutch and you put it in firstgear, and then you just start
pushing it moving forward, whenyou let the clutch out, that'll
start the engine.
And I think of that as a perfectanalogy to I am statements.
(32:44):
I am statements.
I wake up in the morning, theflood of yesterday comes
charging in.
Probably a list of worries andconcerns, maybe in there,
muddled in there, some to-do'sthat I gotta get to done today.
And so it's it's just this floodof old thoughts coming back in.
(33:07):
And I think that there's hugeopportunity in the morning, and
it's become my practice, toreally work on grabbing your
thoughts first thing in themorning.
Grabbing your thoughts andfinding a way of turning what
would otherwise be callednegative thoughts that are
(33:27):
generating negative emotions,worry and fear, and anxiety, and
frustration, and anger, and allthese things that interfere with
our ability to be at peace.
And the power of an I amstatement, finding the ones that
(33:48):
work for you, that address mostmeaningfully the sort of
predisposition identity that youhave that causes life to feel
like a lot of work, a lot ofeffort, a lot of resistance.
SPEAKER_03 (34:06):
And I think if I may add to that, I think it's it's
not about you know, when life istough and it it's tough
sometimes, right?
It's not about sitting there andthinking I am statements and
then jumping out of bed,woo-hoo, life, you know, it's
about that little bit of peacethat may come from that.
(34:28):
And it's just building on thatlittle bit of peace.
SPEAKER_00 (34:32):
I think that an I am statement doesn't isn't the most
effective when it's justcontradictory.
If I wake up and I'm about tosay to myself, I'm worried, I to
say I'm not worried is notreally helpful.
(34:54):
But I think that there are I amstatements that can ease and
slowly shift, you know.
I I think of the metaphor of thethe big ship that's going to
turn 180 degrees.
It only does that a few degreesat a time.
SPEAKER_01 (35:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (35:15):
It takes a long time, takes a lot of I hand.
SPEAKER_01 (35:19):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (35:20):
But even, you know, even if you can shift that 10
degrees, you're gonna change theplace you end up.
You know, you're gonna changethe way your day feels.
SPEAKER_03 (35:32):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (35:33):
And so, you know, to just use that as the example,
you know, I am worried.
It becomes not a contradictorystatement to say I'm smart.
I am capable of planning.
(35:57):
I am creative.
I am capable of coming up withnew ideas.
I am strong.
I am smart.
I am creative.
I am working on this now.
(36:22):
I am changing the way I feelabout this now.
I am coming up with solutionsnow.
I am capable of creatingsolutions.
I am capable of addressingdifficulty.
(36:47):
I am successful at addressingdifficulty.
I am someone who has always beensuccessful at addressing
difficulty.
I am not alone.
I am a friend to many people.
(37:11):
I am loved.
I am supported by those in mylife.
I don't know that you've shiftedthe ship 180 degrees with those,
but they sure feel differentthan I am worried.
(37:34):
I am in trouble.
You know, these kinds ofthoughts are no matter which way
you go with I am statements,you're claiming.
SPEAKER_03 (37:50):
Yeah, I don't think we lay there in the morning and
think I am worried.
I think it's just thissubconscious stuff going on,
right?
So if we can give thesubconscious mind something that
is something that they it canaccept.
(38:15):
You know, I'll never sit thereand tell a weight loss client,
oh, you're gonna lose 10 poundsby next week.
Because their subconscious mindwould never accept that.
It's gonna push, push, push,back, right?
So again, like you said, you'reyou're not saying, I'm not
worried, you know, I'm not introuble.
SPEAKER_00 (38:34):
You're giving it these ideas that maybe it can
get on board with the well, Ithink that when you claim a
different emotional state, whenyou claim a different approach,
thought approach, when you claimthat, you make shifts.
(38:59):
And I think the magic is inclaiming Iambs that are moving
towards the positive that youreally want, rather than um
saying, Well, this is thecondition of my life, this is
the way it is.
You know, I have proof.
(39:19):
Yeah, I'm a mess.
Well, that's what you'reclaiming when you say that.
That's where you're moving youremotional state.
That's quite literally diggingan emotional hole and fortifying
it by repeating it.
(39:41):
And no matter how true you mightbe convinced it is, it's not
helpful.
It's not at all helpful.
And if anybody should be helpingyou, it is you.
(40:06):
And we we miss the opportunityto use our mind to help
ourselves.
And I think that that startswith the simplest of reframes.
I am not my thoughts, I am thethinker.
I can change what I think.
(40:28):
I am the thinker.
These are just thoughts.
I don't have to hang on to them.
You know, uh Luke Howard at theconvention, he he taught a
little thing and I loved it.
He just said, which weighs more?
The thought of a feather or thethought of 50,000 pounds?
SPEAKER_03 (40:54):
Interesting.
SPEAKER_00 (40:56):
And they're both thoughts, and neither of them
weigh anything.
We we step into the meaning ofour thoughts when we have them.
I am not my thoughts, I am thethinker.
Thoughts come to me all thetime, fast and furious, every
(41:16):
day, whether I want them or not.
These are habitual, thoughts arehabitual.
It's that study that's beenrepeated over and over and over.
The numbers change, but thetheme remains the same.
You have about 60,000 thoughtsin a day, about 3,000 of them
are new and creative andpositive.
The rest are all thoughts youthought before and are largely
(41:39):
negative.
That's the way people are.
I think they talk about anoverall human negativity bias.
But these are your thoughts,they're habitual.
Embrace the idea that yourthoughts are mostly out of
control.
They're just doing the thingthat they did yesterday, over
(41:59):
and over and over, and you havelegitimate reasons for thinking
those thoughts at the time, andnobody's criticizing that.
You're really, really normal.
Everybody goes through this.
But then you change to I am thethinker, I am not my thoughts.
I am the thinker, I am not mythoughts.
And in that comes theopportunity to change what you
(42:22):
think, to actually choose whatyou think.
Right?
So imagine yourself thismorning, maybe you've already
been there, but if you haven'tbeen there yet, getting in the
shower and allowing yourself toobserve your thoughts.
When you get into that morninggrooming routine, and all the
(42:43):
thoughts of the day starttumbling into your head.
And just take a breath and say,I am the thinker, I am not my
thoughts, I can change mythoughts.
I am not going to think aboutthis.
There's absolutely no dimensionof this particular problem that
(43:03):
I haven't already thoughtthrough and know that it's a
problem.
I've already thought it through.
I'm already quite clear whatproblem I'm in.
I don't need to think about itanymore.
What I need to think about isjust how creative and strong and
capable I am.
And that's what will open thedoor for me to become different
(43:25):
in the way I address thatproblem.
Possibly more powerful in theway I address that problem, that
issue, or that thing.
So be easy on yourself.
Thoughts are habitual, thoughtsdon't have any particular
weight.
You can let go of a thought asfast as you thought of it.
You can create a new thought asfast as you want.
(43:49):
Our suggestion is to use I amsavings.
I am safe.
I am capable.
I am learning all the time.
I am growing and becoming everyday.
(44:10):
I am moving through thesecircumstances.
I am creating new circumstancesfor myself.
And just grab those big IMs andstart claiming that territory
for yourself.
There's tons of science thatsays that's going to change your
neuropl your neural networksbecause of neuroplasticity.
(44:35):
I fall into my old repeatedthoughts, I'm fortifying my
neural networks.
I deliberately thinkdifferently, I'm changing my
neural networks.
SPEAKER_03 (44:47):
And I think it has to, it has to be deliberate in
the beginning.
SPEAKER_00 (44:50):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (44:51):
Like it has to be choice.
SPEAKER_00 (44:53):
Yeah.
And, you know, that's part ofwhat we do, right?
We help people shift thosethoughts.
SPEAKER_03 (45:00):
And um and we're certainly not gurus over here.
You know, we we struggle just asmuch as anybody else.
But I think uh, you know, we wehave seen through ourselves and
others these changes, right?
So it's I think important toshare like we are doing.
SPEAKER_00 (45:23):
Yeah, so I guess all in all, the the the suggestion
is to first recognize that yourthoughts are habits and they
don't have to be.
You can change habits.
The best way to get rid of a badhabit is to replace it with
another habit.
(45:43):
And it doesn't take long tocreate habits, and everything
that you do with your mind,you're practicing.
So you might as well practicethings that are helpful.
I am not my thoughts, I am thethinker.
I can change what I think.
(46:06):
I can think randomly.
Place yourself in yourfive-year-old mindset when life
was an adventure.
Just imagine yourself at fivefor a little while.
(46:27):
There are so many ways to useyour mind to help you and
improve your experience.
SPEAKER_03 (46:38):
We have training coming up this week.
Did you want to talk about whatyou're doing today?
SPEAKER_00 (46:45):
No, you can you talk about what you're doing.
SPEAKER_03 (46:47):
I don't know what I'm doing.
SPEAKER_00 (46:53):
So I'm I'm setting the stage for a whole course in
eaves.
So let's what what we're gonnaexplain is a series of short
videos that embrace the ideathat maybe a lot of our course
(47:14):
thoughts are not helpful andthey're not accurate, and that
basic fundamental reframes,thinking of things differently,
recognizing uh the truth ofthings creates a whole
subconscious predisposition toexperience your life
differently.
(47:35):
And so a lot of the stuff Italked about this morning, I'm
going to be talking about inthis course.
It's going to set the stage forwhat a reframe is, how reframes
work, where the positive outcomeof reframes are.
And then I'm going to give aseries of reframes that I found
(47:56):
very, very helpful with myclients, helpful in my own life,
but very, very helpful with myclients.
And that will be done in aseries of I'm going to attempt
to be short videos to just coveroff some simple ideas and to
fortify those ideas with somemeditations.
(48:17):
So we'll sort of establish atalk about some ideas, and then
we'll do a little meditation totry to lock that in.
And I'm going to be doing thoseover the next couple of weeks,
whole series.
I've got the first three sort oflocked down yesterday, and gonna
try to record those today.
SPEAKER_03 (48:38):
Yeah, and then they'll be found in the
classrooms tab on school.
There's a classroom tab calledReframes.
It's empty now, but it's readyto go with those teachings later
this week.
Excuse me, I think Thursday.
(49:22):
And just asking our body,ourselves, what's going on?
What are you holding on to?
And so, you know, I I trainhypnotists to do that, but I
want to bring it, you know, intothe sphere of teaching
individuals how to do that ifthey're feeling like, oh, what's
(49:43):
going on in my body, or what amI holding on to, or why do I
have a pain in my knee, or youknow, and seeing where it takes
you and the and the process workto do when you get there.
Your subconscious mind, youryour cells are your body is
intelligent, right?
Every cell knows what it'sdoing, but they do hold on to in
(50:09):
the scientific model, cellularmemory, in the metaphysical
model, they're holding on tosomething from the past where
they I haven't seen it differentyet, but they will take you
there to what it's actuallyneeding to shift.
So yeah, I'm gonna be teachingthat.
(50:30):
I think if I haven't saidhaven't said it already on
Thursday.
Still trying to figure out ifI'm gonna do that live right
now, but it will definitely bein the school classrooms at the
end of Thursday.
SPEAKER_02 (50:48):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (50:49):
Yeah, so this is our our new venture.
This is our new exciting sort ofthat's right, word.
It's the new context for ourhelping business trying to
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You're gonna see this thinggrow, but uh join for free now
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Did we get any questions todayin the chat?
SPEAKER_03 (51:24):
No questions.
If you guys have any questionsalong the way, just throw them
in the chat.
I'll just wait a second here.
SPEAKER_00 (51:34):
We're gonna continue to zoom our podcast and in that
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Um we'll be sort of eyeballingthe chat as we go along.
And we want to just become muchmore interactive with the people
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who are listening.
SPEAKER_03 (51:56):
Yeah.
Okay.
So I think Les is gonna go crazyat the gym this morning.
I'm not going this morning, butyeah.
Thank you for joining us.
This is a new way of holding ourpodcast.
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