September 4, 2024 • 37 mins
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What if reconnecting with your childhood dreams could transform your everyday life? Join us on a reflective journey by the water as we ponder the importance of dreaming big and the internal resistance that often holds us back. Over a contemplative long weekend, we dive into the fading of childhood dreams and the rejuvenating power of rekindling them. We discuss how to navigate the practicalities of life while keeping our dreams alive, and share personal stories of how imagination and joy can pave the way for larger goals. It's about finding that balance between practicality and dreaming, and how letting go of the "how" can open doors to inspiration and opportunities.
In our episode, we explore the transformative effects of positive thinking and meditation on our ability to dream. Imagine reframing your realistic mindset to foster creativity and aspiration, not just for yourself but for your children too. Hear how personal anecdotes illustrate the shift from negativity to an inspiring, dream-encouraging parenthood. We also touch on the importance of small actions and consistent mindfulness practices in unveiling hidden opportunities. This conversation is a heartfelt invitation to embrace your dreams and take steps closer to your ideal life, free from the constraints of fear.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, we're online.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
The sun is shining in my eyes.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Blinded by the light.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Beautiful.
Somebody's out there fishing.
Saw him catch a fish, throw itback.
He's just drifting along.
Wind's coming out of the north,which is uh why it's so darn
cool I love how we have like anews segment right before our
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podcast well, I don't wantpeople to be in the vibe that
I'm in, unless over to youwhat's the weather for?
today it's beautiful, clear andsunny, yeah, and it's been.
It's come to the end of a longweekend where we know we've been
delinquent about podcasting,but more importantly, we have,
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um, well, I guess over the lastweek I've come to understand the
significance of being reallyaware in yourself, of yourself,
about yourself, of what youdream, what you hope to create,
what you hope to be part of,what you hope to see, what you
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hope to experience.
The dreams are really theforces inside you that are meant
to stimulate curiosity andcreativity as as primary forces
of life, and I guess I've been Idon't do that and it's been an
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interesting weekend becausewe've sort of made that our
focus.
We've been, yeah, it's a longweekend, we're spending it just
us, we really haven't doneanything that involves others,
and we've had this constantquestion of what are our dreams,
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what does it mean to dream?
And is it fair to say it hasn'tbeen an easy kind of process
yeah, that's fair to say.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, that's fair to say.
I thought I had dreams and I do.
I think that's important to saythat I do have dreams and you
do have dreams.
But I realized quite quicklywhen we sat down on Saturday and
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we started writing out Saturdayand we started writing out I
don't know what would you saythose things we wrote out Kind
of trying to connect in withsomething higher, just to give
us some direction.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
We were just using I am statements trying to give
ourselves permission to dream,give ourselves permission to
have really big, audacious,glorious aspirations.
I mean, I guess it starts.
You know, our process startedwith, yeah, the business and our
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business and what we're tryingto do and what we want to be
doing and what we want to bedoing next and what do we dream
about?
The business, and mostly it wasreally practical.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
That's my doing.
Mine was the practicality of it.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, I think yours is very direct and I was just
frustrated with myself that Icouldn't seem to generate those
kinds of big thoughts of whatare we doing and why are we
doing it and what are we tryingto accomplish by doing it and
really being practical as to youknow a business make a living,
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help some people to somethingbigger and then really try to
tap into old thoughts about that, thoughts that we might have
been willing to have in priortimes, maybe much younger times
have in prior times, maybe muchyounger times.
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Mm-hmm, it's funny how littlekids are good at it, right?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
yeah, yeah, some kids just know what they want to be
or do, or you know, I never Idon't remember anyway having
that like I want to be afirefighter, or you know, I
those those dreams of exactKnowing and I don't think that's
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a bad thing.
I think over my lifetime I'vehad chapters of dreaming and
anyone who knows me knows that Ihave like 10 different things
going on at the same time thatI'm, I would say, I'm dreaming
about.
But the thing that I recognizedthis weekend was that I was
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getting caught up in the detailsand how to get to the dream.
So it's like the dream wasgetting lost in the, in the
details and trying to controlhow I got there.
And then I was thinking that mydream was the details.
It was like I was getting mixedup with the two.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, I mean we were talking about where would you
want to live.
If you could live anywhere,where would you want to live?
And really our discussion ofthat turned into where could we
live, based on our situationwhere could we?
live based on our situation.
Where could we live?
And and we were more concernedwith, you know, rules and money
and and practicalities, like youknow, taking care of tyke the
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dog and stuff like that we werecaught up in thes and capables
and not reaching out to thedream.
And you know I guess thatbrings me back to the idea of
programming right that whenyou're little and you talk about
dreams, nobody ever poo-poosthem, or I shouldn't say that
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they're less likely to bepoo-pooed by somebody listening
in or looking on, and somehowthrough life, we get
reprogrammed away from dreamingbig dreams and towards managing
conditions and circumstances,and that it goes from seeing
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something wonderful andbeautiful out on the horizon
that we want to create to well,what's one step we could take a
little bit closer to somethingthat we might like more?
Yeah, and so it becomes verypractical.
And so I think aboutprogramming.
I think about how the idea ofdreaming and dreaming big dreams
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is something that seems, overthe years, to be programmed out
of you.
I mean, we found incredibleresistance to it.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Oh yeah, I never thought I had that kind of
resistance to it.
But in the end I recognized whyI have maybe a hard time
sticking to some things right,like why I have resistance to
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sitting down and writing and whyI have resistance to creating
programs sometimes, and it'slike I'm getting too caught up
in the you know, like oh, thisprogram will create my dream.
Well, how do I explain this?
Like I've, it's like I'vepulled back from the dream and
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I'm focused on the program andthen I get caught up in the
details of that and I don't knowwhat to do, because if I do the
wrong thing, then maybe theprogram won't create my dream.
It's all getting muddled up andI really needed to look at what
was giving me joy or moments ofpeace and joy along the travels
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to the dream, instead ofgetting so hung up on the
details.
You know, a really good exampleand I don't know if I'm going
to be able to spell this outquite clearly, but a really good
example is writing the book.
Well, I recognized recently thatI needed to put the puzzles
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together for differentperspectives of characters, and
I'm getting hung up on that andI'm not just writing.
It's like, oh, this has to beperfect for my first edit where
you know like it's going to betorn apart anyway, right, like,
and I'm getting hung up in thedetails of all that and so I'm
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just not writing because, godknows, I might screw it up.
So the dream is starting tofade and I'm getting caught up
in the in the beginning stageswhere I shouldn't even be
getting caught up.
I should just be having fun andfinding the joy in that.
So I think that's across theboard, I think with our business
, with with you know, like, like, like.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Oh, I got to do it properly, you know yeah, the joy
and excitement part is the partthat I really miss, you know
it's.
It's also probably the motivemost motivational part is is
being aware of what you'retrying to be, do or have and
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some combination of those.
The big dream that's notnecessarily just a dream for
yourself, you know.
It's not just what do I dreamto rip, to end up being and
having and doing.
It's also what I dream for theworld, what I dream to end up
being and having and doing.
It's also what I dream for theworld, what I dream for me as an
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actor in the world.
What am I accomplishing?
What impact am I having?
What impact will I have onothers, have on others by
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pursuing something that is, youknow, sort of uniquely mine?
You know, I I think about, atsome point or another, athletes
that are going to we just hadthe Olympics, they're gonna
going to go to the Olympics haveto, they have to sort of flip a
switch.
They have to go from saying Ilike running or I like jumping
or I like, you know, playingthis or playing that sport or
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whatever.
They have to go from I like itand I want to be good at it to I
want to be an Olympian.
And if you dream that, I thinkwe're predisposed in our world
to say, oh well, you know,there's so few people going to
be Olympians.
That's not a realistic dream.
It's not about having realisticdreams.
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It's about having somethingthat drives you.
It's about having somethingthat drives you.
It's about having somethingthat moves you forward, that
those dreams can change as youget further down the road.
But is it okay for me to say Iwant to be an Olympian if it's
not realistic?
It's reminding me of that movie,eddie the Eagle.
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Eddie the Eagle it's a story ofan English kid who wanted to be
an Olympian.
He didn't know what he would bean Olympian in, but he wanted
to be an Olympian and he decidedthat his only hope was to be a
ski jumper, because Englanddidn't have a ski jumping team.
So he was going to be the onlyski jumper and he did it.
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And it's just a wonderful movieto watch, um, because it's it
just shows the power, I think,of dreaming and and the the
importance of having acommitment to yourself, I think
is so important.
Um, it's, it's central, um, andI guess I you know it's what,
and I guess what's coming to menow is that's self love, to love
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yourself enough to see yourselfas entitled to have what other
people might call an unrealisticdream.
Sorry, I just really find thatfor myself, that dreaming as
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imagining and creating andseeing things as big and wild
and wonderful is something thatI've really learned to dismiss
in myself and almost avoid as aresult, and I'm of the opinion
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that that's not a good thing.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, I think we avoid it.
Well, I don't know, I'mthinking about it for myself
anyway, the avoidance it's likeit's kind of like being on the
schoolyard as a child and justlike trying to be a part of
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something, a group or something,and being turned down and that
feeling.
I think there's an element of,well, what if I don't achieve
the dream?
What am I gonna look like?
How are how are people going toperceive me?
How am I gonna perceive myself?
And I?
I have a, you know.
I know a lot of people say, oh,if you have a, you know.
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I know a lot of people say, oh,if you have a dream, don't tell
anybody.
If you're trying to lose weight,don't tell anybody.
If you're trying to do this,don't tell anybody.
I have a mixed relationshipwith that idea because I believe
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in the idea that other peopleand their thoughts can help you.
Now, if I was surrounded bypeople that were constantly
telling me you know what are youdoing, I probably wouldn't tell
anybody.
But I have supportive friendsand when I'm excited about
something, I like to share it.
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As you know, that's beautifuland I want to support them and I
always support them in theirdreams.
So I don't know, I don't knowthat, like I get it for some
people, I totally get it ifyou've got a circle that isn't
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quite supportive or I don't know, I don't know.
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
well, let it be the first reframe of the day.
It really is like that.
I think we can all recognizeinside ourselves a fear of
sharing our dreams with others,a fear of dreaming something
that somebody else might callunrealistic.
I have sort of two ideas.
First reframe is let's not bethe people that poo-poo other
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people's dreams.
So how do I become the personwho people feel comfortable
sharing their dreams with me?
How do I support others intheir dreams?
How do I get comfortable beingjust as audacious as they are
with their dreams?
You know, somebody says I wantto be an Olympian that wouldn't
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that be fantastic.
you know, I found that.
Found that when I was raisingmy kids, this was taught to me
and I thought this is powerfulstuff, right, because your
automatic reaction as a parentwhen your kid says they want
something is to say no, and youfeel all kinds of guilt and
shame because you don't have themoney to just go out and buy
your kids whatever the hell theywant.
And there's this reallyincredible sort of almost pain
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you experience as a parent everytime you bump into the limits
of your resources and your kidsare asking and they're wanting,
and you can see the yearning intheir eyes.
And I got taught this, and sothe process I started to adopt
was not, um, first it wasn'tgetting angry and and cause,
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that's what we do, we, we feelsort of attacked because kids, I
want this, can I have this?
And then we feel bad aboutourselves and so we turn that
into anger and we say, no, putthat down Right and to to take
it back from anger to acceptance.
Then sometimes we might feelsort of shame and guilt and say,
no, son, I'm sorry, I can'tafford that right now.
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Right, and now that negativeemotion becomes guilt and shame.
But the next step from that isjust imagining.
And I started to say wouldn't itbe great if we could just buy
that?
Wouldn't it be great if we hadenough money to just buy that
and take that home?
Would you like that?
I'd like that too.
I would love to be able to dothat for you.
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Wouldn't it be great if I couldget one of those too?
And then I pointed something Iwant yeah, dad, you could get
that and I could get this.
And I said yeah, wouldn't thatbe great.
Maybe that can happen sometime.
Maybe someday we'll be able todo that.
And just by turning it that way, I went from being this sort of
negative parent that was just,you know, telling my kid no all
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the time to this parent that waswilling to dream and aspire
with their child and encouragemy children to dream and aspire
and it was.
It was.
It became a habit for me.
We go to the grocery store, dad, can we have Coco?
We have cocoa puffs.
Oh, wouldn't it be great if wecould just eat cocoa puffs all
day long and just eat nothingbut cocoa puffs.
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But you know what?
We just get sick and fat.
So we probably shouldn't dothat.
I wish we could do that, but weshould probably focus on
something that's really healthyand and just making that giving
giving the child theacknowledgement that it's okay
to imagine a life in which theycould be constantly giving
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themselves the things they want,right?
This was just something that Ilearned again from from from
somebody else, and I startedusing it and we started to have
tons of fun, and then I foundout they were telling others
that I do this and it was just.
It was felt so much lighter andso much happier.
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Um, it felt it took away someof my fears of taking my kids
shopping with me.
It took away some of myconcerns, um with with money,
because, yeah, at the time, youknow, resources were limited and
that's just the way they were.
Um, uh, I don't know that Iwanted to stay in that place,
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but it was still.
It was still a different way oflooking at it.
So how do we reframe?
How do we reframe our practicalself?
How do we reframe our realisticself?
I think that's powerful, Ithink to say to ourselves it is
okay to dream.
It is okay for me to imagine aworld where what might otherwise
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be impractical or what mightotherwise be unrealistic, it is
okay for me to imagine myself asan Olympic ski jumper.
It is okay to imagine myself asthe world's most impactful
author.
It is okay to imagine myself ashaving a positive impact on
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millions of people, millions ofpeople helping people with their
mind.
It is okay for me to feel goodabout this work and process I'm
engaged in and trying to take mymind, understand my mind, use
my mind for my own benefit, formy own growth, for my own
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enlightenment, and take that andshare that and share those
ideas and imagine myself havingthat impact on others that
others are are being movedtowards their own enlightenment
and their own growth.
I'm just a stepping stone alongthe road and and to imagine
myself having that influence,not because I want to change
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people, but because I want to bethat kind of light for others.
I want to be the kind of beingthat others say yeah, I like
that idea.
That idea makes me feel better.
You know, I think that thefirst reframe has got to be it's
okay to dream, it's okay forothers to dream and for me to
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support others in their dreamsand to say to myself it's okay
to dream.
We've been struggling with itall weekend, right, all weekend
trying to get bigger and morebodacious with the dreams we
have, right.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Sorry, I was on a tear there.
That's okay.
We spent a lot of time talkingabout where we would dream about
living.
And it just kept coming back topracticalities.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, I have a really hard time thinking about living
overseas, somewhere that wecan't drive, because you know
we're I don't want to put tykeon a plane, you know.
That's like a big no-no for me,um, less than thinks about the
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ships going across the ocean andthen I tell him that I'll fly
there and meet him, so, but yeah, I think there's lots of places
that we can live.
And then we think about ourbeautiful place here and and why
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would we want to live outanywhere else?
Um, but yeah, I think I, Ithink, um, what was it that you
said to me?
You said, oh, I wish, I wish Icould remember.
But suddenly my world opened upand I was like, yeah, we can
have an apartment in Vancouverand we could have what else?
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Apartment in her house inHalifax and we could have a home
base here or somewhere, youknow.
Like it just opened upeverything.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I wish I could remember what you think it was
just let go of the how.
The how does it matter?
Yeah, how might that happen?
Could that happen?
Those are questions just to letgo up, because that's not.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That's not what dreaming is about mmm dreaming
is not planning yeah and I yeah,and that's where I get caught
up.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Well, and that's really normal, it's really we
all do it.
When we have the slightestaspiration or goal, our
immediate reaction is what wouldthat cost and how can we make
that happen?
And that'll never happen,because I can never do this or I
can never have that, or I cannever be this, or I'm not
educated enough or I'm notexperienced enough, or I don't
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have those talents or yeahthere's.
We go straight to the how andthe practicality of it and just
shut it down.
I think you know we talked weeksago about creativity, and I
think that's an important ideato consider right now.
Creativity does not flourish injudgmental environments yeah
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when the reaction to creativityis good or bad, right or wrong,
acceptable or unacceptable.
The creative process, theideation process, the process of
coming up with ideas just getssquashed as soon as if you're
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sitting with somebody and you'redreaming up ways to do
something.
As soon as somebody says, oh,that won't work, or somebody
says I don't think so right,then you just shut down.
And I think it's so important,as I learned in creativity
studies, to just sometimes pushjudgment aside for a little
while, push the how, push thecriticisms, push the
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inadequacies of the ideas.
Just push them aside for alittle while, ignore them.
You can come back to them.
It's not like in the process ofcoming up with ideas, coming up
with your dreams, you have totake every idea and analyze it,
you can analyze it later if youreally still want to, because I
think dreaming itself is aworthwhile process.
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I think it's worthwhile becausenothing new will come about
without a thought of somethingdifferent.
I mean, you know, somebodywatched Star Trek and saw the
communicators and said, oh, wecould make a flip phone like
that, right?
It's only when these silly,creative ideas come about, when
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these aspirational dreams comeabout right, that humans do wild
and wonderful things.
Everything begins as an idea.
Everything begins as an idea.
There is nothing around us thathasn't begun as an idea, and if
every one of those ideas isonly ever examined practically,
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then nothing new will come aboutright.
So to be just wild in yourthoughts, there's nothing wrong
with that.
That is what creates newpossibilities, you know, for
everybody to sit at home andimagine and I, you know
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everybody's talking about this.
I was talking about are we onthe edge of some kind of big
spiritual shift?
If everybody was to sit at homeand ask himself what would a
beautiful, wonderful, loving,caring world look like?
And not worry about how to getit there, not worry about how
the systems of the world don'tsupport that, not worry about
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how, you know, there are toomany people in too many forces
and too many politicians and toomany corporations and too many
structures and institutions.
You know, let go of all of that, we can come to that later.
But just spend some energyimagining what's possible for
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humans.
What could humans accomplish ifthey actually put their mind?
to it and it costs you nothing.
Right, like it costs younothing.
You're going to sit and stareout the window anyway.
You're going to sit, drink yourcoffee and stare off into space
anyway.
Your mind's and this is, Ithink, one of the most important
reframes I just repeat, repeat,repeat, repeat, repeat, because
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I find it has such an enormousimpact on my clients and when
people hear it and think aboutit they go oh, I guess I have
nothing to lose.
Your mind is going to thinkanyway.
Your mind is going to thinkanyway.
So choose what you're thinking,have fun with it.
This is my mind.
It thinks.
So.
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Why don't I think of you knowhow beautiful it is outside?
Why don't I think about howgrateful I am that it was a good
summer?
Why don't I think about how,you know, summers can be
extended and we might have, youknow, a beautiful, extended
summer well, into October?
And why don't I think aboutthese wonderful, uplifting,
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positive thoughts?
if I'm going to think right,because I'm going to think
anyway, and they tend to be.
As we've said so many times,the studies have proven it.
The estimates are between65,000 and 120,000 thoughts each
day, of which between 90% and95% are the same thoughts you
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had yesterday, that the vastmajority of them are some form
of worry or resentment or guilt,and that they don't have to be
that way.
You don't have to think that.
And so if you're thinkinganyway and you tend to think
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negative and you're notsatisfied with your life the way
, it is then maybe that's gotsomething to do with it.
And since it costs absolutelynothing to shift your thoughts
and just start thinkingdifferent things, just think
positive things, just start withsome gratitude.
Move on to some dreaming, moveon to some imagining.
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What would life be like, youknow, be that be that seven year
old kid that imagines havingeverything that they want.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
You know like you're going to use your mind.
Anyway, it's going to thinkanyway.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
why let it repeat all those negative things?
Why not get it into a habit ofthinking really positive things?
I mean, people are so quick tosay don't and react negatively
to that idea, but there's nonegative outcome from that.
The worries will come back whenthey come back.
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Right in this moment I'm notgoing to engage those.
I'm going to engage the way thesun glitters on the water and
how the dog's lying happily andsnoozily and feel like boy.
Am I lucky I'm alive today.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, I think it's giving us permission to dream.
You know we're allowed to dream, and anybody who made you feel
like you weren't allowed todream whether it was parents or
teachers or society as a whole,you know just in your mind say,
no, I'm taking this back.
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I'm allowed to dream, I'mallowed to put myself out there,
I'm allowed to be who I want tobe.
I'm allowed to um, yeah, justthink up new possible, new
possibilities and and thingsthat I wish for myself.
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I think it's so important andyou know you want to be changing
and you want to beincorporating new things in your
life.
I have this.
Well, I think it's kind ofhilarious.
I don't know if clients do, butI'll say to clients you know,
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you don't, you don't imagineright now, you never changed
again until your final breath,like that would be super boring,
right.
It kind of reminds me of thatold, you know guy on his rocking
chair with his shotgun, on hisporch with his dog, you know,
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like just rocking back and forth, not doing anything for the
rest of your life.
And you don't want that.
You want to be changing, youwant to be growing, you want to
be dreaming.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
And if you're not good at it, don't worry about it
.
We just spent the whole weekendalmost suffering through it.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Right, suffering through trying to dream, and you
know, at this point I'mcommitted to try to just keep on
dreaming.
I do.
I do experience moments ofupliftment, of of raising myself
up when I engage, that and um,and I think it's possible to
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have little tiny reminders thatyou're capable of this, and when
you just have those little tinymoments where you're dreaming
something funny and it makes yousmile, that's good, that's just
good practice, because it's allpractice, right, everything is
practice.
Whatever's going through yourmind is practice.
So choosing what goes throughyour mind is practicing,
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choosing what goes through yourmind, and then you'll get better
at it and you'll get better andbetter and better at it and
little tiny improvementsdramatically improve your life.
I mean, that's been my journey.
That's why I engaged inhypnosis so long ago.
You know why I've engaged inmeditation practices long ago.
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You know why I've engaged inmeditation practices, why I read
the vast volumes of stuff thatI read in terms of, you know,
our greater meaning and ourgreater mind and our human mind
and our higher mind and allthese things.
You know, I've just filled myhead with new ideas and that has
significantly just improved myquality of life.
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It is worth that practice, evenwhen I catch myself going back
to old ways and old thoughts,I'm now practiced at recognizing
that I used to be bad at it.
Now I'm not good at it, but I'mbetter at it, and as I get
better at it I catch myselfsooner and then I don't go down
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those rabbit holes that couldcause me to lose a whole day of
my life to negative thinking andnegative reactions and negative
observation Just trying to findall the problems with life.
So it's just practice.
Thinking is practice.
Whatever you've been thinking,you were practicing thinking
that, and so, yeah, practicesomething else.
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Dream a dream somethingaudacious, something way beyond
practicality.
Imagine a perfect world andyour perfect role within that
perfect world.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I think you know.
A little addition before wewrap up here is, if you've got a
dream, dream about it and findthe little bits of you know,
those little joys that comeabout as you start to dream, and
then you're going to notice,with that dream in mind, that
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inspiration, little inspirations, hit you or little doors open
here and there, and when you'rein that joy moment, or when
you're in that inspired moment,take action, right, take those
little actions, um, becausethose doors are now visible to
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you.
They were there all the time,but they're visible to you
because you don't have fearblocking them in those joyful
moments heading towards yourdream nice that's, that's
perfect instruction.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, so we're on our third day of dreaming and I
want to dream some more today.
I'm going to go to the gym.
We're going to come back.
We're want to dream some moretoday.
I'm going to go to the gym.
I'm going to come back.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
We're going to dream some more.
Okay Dream, I won't getbreaking this one.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Sweet dreams are made of these.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Dream a little dream for me.
Oh my God, take that out, okay,bye.
Hey, we're online.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
The sun is shining in my eyes.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Blinded by the light.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Beautiful.
Somebody's out there fishing.
Saw him catch a fish, throw itback.
He's just drifting along.
Wind's coming out of the north,which is uh why it's so darn
cool I love how we have like anews segment right before our
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podcast well, I don't wantpeople to be in the vibe that
I'm in, unless over to youwhat's the weather for?
today it's beautiful, clear andsunny, yeah, and it's been.
It's come to the end of a longweekend where we know we've been
delinquent about podcasting,but more importantly, we have,
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um, well, I guess over the lastweek I've come to understand the
significance of being reallyaware in yourself, of yourself,
about yourself, of what youdream, what you hope to create,
what you hope to be part of,what you hope to see, what you
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hope to experience.
The dreams are really theforces inside you that are meant
to stimulate curiosity andcreativity as as primary forces
of life, and I guess I've been Idon't do that and it's been an
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interesting weekend becausewe've sort of made that our
focus.
We've been, yeah, it's a longweekend, we're spending it just
us, we really haven't doneanything that involves others,
and we've had this constantquestion of what are our dreams,
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what does it mean to dream?
And is it fair to say it hasn'tbeen an easy kind of process
yeah, that's fair to say.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, that's fair to say.
I thought I had dreams and I do.
I think that's important to saythat I do have dreams and you
do have dreams.
But I realized quite quicklywhen we sat down on Saturday and
(02:43):
we started writing out Saturdayand we started writing out I
don't know what would you saythose things we wrote out Kind
of trying to connect in withsomething higher, just to give
us some direction.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
We were just using I am statements trying to give
ourselves permission to dream,give ourselves permission to
have really big, audacious,glorious aspirations.
I mean, I guess it starts.
You know, our process startedwith, yeah, the business and our
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business and what we're tryingto do and what we want to be
doing and what we want to bedoing next and what do we dream
about?
The business, and mostly it wasreally practical.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
That's my doing.
Mine was the practicality of it.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, I think yours is very direct and I was just
frustrated with myself that Icouldn't seem to generate those
kinds of big thoughts of whatare we doing and why are we
doing it and what are we tryingto accomplish by doing it and
really being practical as to youknow a business make a living,
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help some people to somethingbigger and then really try to
tap into old thoughts about that, thoughts that we might have
been willing to have in priortimes, maybe much younger times
have in prior times, maybe muchyounger times.
(04:27):
Mm-hmm, it's funny how littlekids are good at it, right?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
yeah, yeah, some kids just know what they want to be
or do, or you know, I never Idon't remember anyway having
that like I want to be afirefighter, or you know, I
those those dreams of exactKnowing and I don't think that's
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a bad thing.
I think over my lifetime I'vehad chapters of dreaming and
anyone who knows me knows that Ihave like 10 different things
going on at the same time thatI'm, I would say, I'm dreaming
about.
But the thing that I recognizedthis weekend was that I was
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getting caught up in the detailsand how to get to the dream.
So it's like the dream wasgetting lost in the, in the
details and trying to controlhow I got there.
And then I was thinking that mydream was the details.
It was like I was getting mixedup with the two.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yeah, I mean we were talking about where would you
want to live.
If you could live anywhere,where would you want to live?
And really our discussion ofthat turned into where could we
live, based on our situationwhere could we?
live based on our situation.
Where could we live?
And and we were more concernedwith, you know, rules and money
and and practicalities, like youknow, taking care of tyke the
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dog and stuff like that we werecaught up in thes and capables
and not reaching out to thedream.
And you know I guess thatbrings me back to the idea of
programming right that whenyou're little and you talk about
dreams, nobody ever poo-poosthem, or I shouldn't say that
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they're less likely to bepoo-pooed by somebody listening
in or looking on, and somehowthrough life, we get
reprogrammed away from dreamingbig dreams and towards managing
conditions and circumstances,and that it goes from seeing
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something wonderful andbeautiful out on the horizon
that we want to create to well,what's one step we could take a
little bit closer to somethingthat we might like more?
Yeah, and so it becomes verypractical.
And so I think aboutprogramming.
I think about how the idea ofdreaming and dreaming big dreams
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is something that seems, overthe years, to be programmed out
of you.
I mean, we found incredibleresistance to it.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Oh yeah, I never thought I had that kind of
resistance to it.
But in the end I recognized whyI have maybe a hard time
sticking to some things right,like why I have resistance to
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sitting down and writing and whyI have resistance to creating
programs sometimes, and it'slike I'm getting too caught up
in the you know, like oh, thisprogram will create my dream.
Well, how do I explain this?
Like I've, it's like I'vepulled back from the dream and
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I'm focused on the program andthen I get caught up in the
details of that and I don't knowwhat to do, because if I do the
wrong thing, then maybe theprogram won't create my dream.
It's all getting muddled up andI really needed to look at what
was giving me joy or moments ofpeace and joy along the travels
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to the dream, instead ofgetting so hung up on the
details.
You know, a really good exampleand I don't know if I'm going
to be able to spell this outquite clearly, but a really good
example is writing the book.
Well, I recognized recently thatI needed to put the puzzles
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together for differentperspectives of characters, and
I'm getting hung up on that andI'm not just writing.
It's like, oh, this has to beperfect for my first edit where
you know like it's going to betorn apart anyway, right, like,
and I'm getting hung up in thedetails of all that and so I'm
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just not writing because, godknows, I might screw it up.
So the dream is starting tofade and I'm getting caught up
in the in the beginning stageswhere I shouldn't even be
getting caught up.
I should just be having fun andfinding the joy in that.
So I think that's across theboard, I think with our business
, with with you know, like, like, like.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Oh, I got to do it properly, you know yeah, the joy
and excitement part is the partthat I really miss, you know
it's.
It's also probably the motivemost motivational part is is
being aware of what you'retrying to be, do or have and
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some combination of those.
The big dream that's notnecessarily just a dream for
yourself, you know.
It's not just what do I dreamto rip, to end up being and
having and doing.
It's also what I dream for theworld, what I dream to end up
being and having and doing.
It's also what I dream for theworld, what I dream for me as an
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actor in the world.
What am I accomplishing?
What impact am I having?
What impact will I have onothers, have on others by
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pursuing something that is, youknow, sort of uniquely mine?
You know, I I think about, atsome point or another, athletes
that are going to we just hadthe Olympics, they're gonna
going to go to the Olympics haveto, they have to sort of flip a
switch.
They have to go from saying Ilike running or I like jumping
or I like, you know, playingthis or playing that sport or
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whatever.
They have to go from I like itand I want to be good at it to I
want to be an Olympian.
And if you dream that, I thinkwe're predisposed in our world
to say, oh well, you know,there's so few people going to
be Olympians.
That's not a realistic dream.
It's not about having realisticdreams.
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It's about having somethingthat drives you.
It's about having somethingthat drives you.
It's about having somethingthat moves you forward, that
those dreams can change as youget further down the road.
But is it okay for me to say Iwant to be an Olympian if it's
not realistic?
It's reminding me of that movie,eddie the Eagle.
(12:08):
Eddie the Eagle it's a story ofan English kid who wanted to be
an Olympian.
He didn't know what he would bean Olympian in, but he wanted
to be an Olympian and he decidedthat his only hope was to be a
ski jumper, because Englanddidn't have a ski jumping team.
So he was going to be the onlyski jumper and he did it.
(12:34):
And it's just a wonderful movieto watch, um, because it's it
just shows the power, I think,of dreaming and and the the
importance of having acommitment to yourself, I think
is so important.
Um, it's, it's central, um, andI guess I you know it's what,
and I guess what's coming to menow is that's self love, to love
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yourself enough to see yourselfas entitled to have what other
people might call an unrealisticdream.
Sorry, I just really find thatfor myself, that dreaming as
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imagining and creating andseeing things as big and wild
and wonderful is something thatI've really learned to dismiss
in myself and almost avoid as aresult, and I'm of the opinion
(13:43):
that that's not a good thing.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, I think we avoid it.
Well, I don't know, I'mthinking about it for myself
anyway, the avoidance it's likeit's kind of like being on the
schoolyard as a child and justlike trying to be a part of
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something, a group or something,and being turned down and that
feeling.
I think there's an element of,well, what if I don't achieve
the dream?
What am I gonna look like?
How are how are people going toperceive me?
How am I gonna perceive myself?
And I?
I have a, you know.
I know a lot of people say, oh,if you have a, you know.
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I know a lot of people say, oh,if you have a dream, don't tell
anybody.
If you're trying to lose weight,don't tell anybody.
If you're trying to do this,don't tell anybody.
I have a mixed relationshipwith that idea because I believe
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in the idea that other peopleand their thoughts can help you.
Now, if I was surrounded bypeople that were constantly
telling me you know what are youdoing, I probably wouldn't tell
anybody.
But I have supportive friendsand when I'm excited about
something, I like to share it.
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As you know, that's beautifuland I want to support them and I
always support them in theirdreams.
So I don't know, I don't knowthat, like I get it for some
people, I totally get it ifyou've got a circle that isn't
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quite supportive or I don't know, I don't know.
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
well, let it be the first reframe of the day.
It really is like that.
I think we can all recognizeinside ourselves a fear of
sharing our dreams with others,a fear of dreaming something
that somebody else might callunrealistic.
I have sort of two ideas.
First reframe is let's not bethe people that poo-poo other
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people's dreams.
So how do I become the personwho people feel comfortable
sharing their dreams with me?
How do I support others intheir dreams?
How do I get comfortable beingjust as audacious as they are
with their dreams?
You know, somebody says I wantto be an Olympian that wouldn't
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that be fantastic.
you know, I found that.
Found that when I was raisingmy kids, this was taught to me
and I thought this is powerfulstuff, right, because your
automatic reaction as a parentwhen your kid says they want
something is to say no, and youfeel all kinds of guilt and
shame because you don't have themoney to just go out and buy
your kids whatever the hell theywant.
And there's this reallyincredible sort of almost pain
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you experience as a parent everytime you bump into the limits
of your resources and your kidsare asking and they're wanting,
and you can see the yearning intheir eyes.
And I got taught this, and sothe process I started to adopt
was not, um, first it wasn'tgetting angry and and cause,
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that's what we do, we, we feelsort of attacked because kids, I
want this, can I have this?
And then we feel bad aboutourselves and so we turn that
into anger and we say, no, putthat down Right and to to take
it back from anger to acceptance.
Then sometimes we might feelsort of shame and guilt and say,
no, son, I'm sorry, I can'tafford that right now.
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Right, and now that negativeemotion becomes guilt and shame.
But the next step from that isjust imagining.
And I started to say wouldn't itbe great if we could just buy
that?
Wouldn't it be great if we hadenough money to just buy that
and take that home?
Would you like that?
I'd like that too.
I would love to be able to dothat for you.
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Wouldn't it be great if I couldget one of those too?
And then I pointed something Iwant yeah, dad, you could get
that and I could get this.
And I said yeah, wouldn't thatbe great.
Maybe that can happen sometime.
Maybe someday we'll be able todo that.
And just by turning it that way, I went from being this sort of
negative parent that was just,you know, telling my kid no all
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the time to this parent that waswilling to dream and aspire
with their child and encouragemy children to dream and aspire
and it was.
It was.
It became a habit for me.
We go to the grocery store, dad, can we have Coco?
We have cocoa puffs.
Oh, wouldn't it be great if wecould just eat cocoa puffs all
day long and just eat nothingbut cocoa puffs.
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But you know what?
We just get sick and fat.
So we probably shouldn't dothat.
I wish we could do that, but weshould probably focus on
something that's really healthyand and just making that giving
giving the child theacknowledgement that it's okay
to imagine a life in which theycould be constantly giving
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themselves the things they want,right?
This was just something that Ilearned again from from from
somebody else, and I startedusing it and we started to have
tons of fun, and then I foundout they were telling others
that I do this and it was just.
It was felt so much lighter andso much happier.
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Um, it felt it took away someof my fears of taking my kids
shopping with me.
It took away some of myconcerns, um with with money,
because, yeah, at the time, youknow, resources were limited and
that's just the way they were.
Um, uh, I don't know that Iwanted to stay in that place,
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but it was still.
It was still a different way oflooking at it.
So how do we reframe?
How do we reframe our practicalself?
How do we reframe our realisticself?
I think that's powerful, Ithink to say to ourselves it is
okay to dream.
It is okay for me to imagine aworld where what might otherwise
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be impractical or what mightotherwise be unrealistic, it is
okay for me to imagine myself asan Olympic ski jumper.
It is okay to imagine myself asthe world's most impactful
author.
It is okay to imagine myself ashaving a positive impact on
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millions of people, millions ofpeople helping people with their
mind.
It is okay for me to feel goodabout this work and process I'm
engaged in and trying to take mymind, understand my mind, use
my mind for my own benefit, formy own growth, for my own
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enlightenment, and take that andshare that and share those
ideas and imagine myself havingthat impact on others that
others are are being movedtowards their own enlightenment
and their own growth.
I'm just a stepping stone alongthe road and and to imagine
myself having that influence,not because I want to change
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people, but because I want to bethat kind of light for others.
I want to be the kind of beingthat others say yeah, I like
that idea.
That idea makes me feel better.
You know, I think that thefirst reframe has got to be it's
okay to dream, it's okay forothers to dream and for me to
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support others in their dreamsand to say to myself it's okay
to dream.
We've been struggling with itall weekend, right, all weekend
trying to get bigger and morebodacious with the dreams we
have, right.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Sorry, I was on a tear there.
That's okay.
We spent a lot of time talkingabout where we would dream about
living.
And it just kept coming back topracticalities.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, I have a really hard time thinking about living
overseas, somewhere that wecan't drive, because you know
we're I don't want to put tykeon a plane, you know.
That's like a big no-no for me,um, less than thinks about the
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ships going across the ocean andthen I tell him that I'll fly
there and meet him, so, but yeah, I think there's lots of places
that we can live.
And then we think about ourbeautiful place here and and why
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would we want to live outanywhere else?
Um, but yeah, I think I, Ithink, um, what was it that you
said to me?
You said, oh, I wish, I wish Icould remember.
But suddenly my world opened upand I was like, yeah, we can
have an apartment in Vancouverand we could have what else?
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Apartment in her house inHalifax and we could have a home
base here or somewhere, youknow.
Like it just opened upeverything.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
I wish I could remember what you think it was
just let go of the how.
The how does it matter?
Yeah, how might that happen?
Could that happen?
Those are questions just to letgo up, because that's not.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
That's not what dreaming is about mmm dreaming
is not planning yeah and I yeah,and that's where I get caught
up.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Well, and that's really normal, it's really we
all do it.
When we have the slightestaspiration or goal, our
immediate reaction is what wouldthat cost and how can we make
that happen?
And that'll never happen,because I can never do this or I
can never have that, or I cannever be this, or I'm not
educated enough or I'm notexperienced enough, or I don't
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have those talents or yeahthere's.
We go straight to the how andthe practicality of it and just
shut it down.
I think you know we talked weeksago about creativity, and I
think that's an important ideato consider right now.
Creativity does not flourish injudgmental environments yeah
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when the reaction to creativityis good or bad, right or wrong,
acceptable or unacceptable.
The creative process, theideation process, the process of
coming up with ideas just getssquashed as soon as if you're
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sitting with somebody and you'redreaming up ways to do
something.
As soon as somebody says, oh,that won't work, or somebody
says I don't think so right,then you just shut down.
And I think it's so important,as I learned in creativity
studies, to just sometimes pushjudgment aside for a little
while, push the how, push thecriticisms, push the
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inadequacies of the ideas.
Just push them aside for alittle while, ignore them.
You can come back to them.
It's not like in the process ofcoming up with ideas, coming up
with your dreams, you have totake every idea and analyze it,
you can analyze it later if youreally still want to, because I
think dreaming itself is aworthwhile process.
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I think it's worthwhile becausenothing new will come about
without a thought of somethingdifferent.
I mean, you know, somebodywatched Star Trek and saw the
communicators and said, oh, wecould make a flip phone like
that, right?
It's only when these silly,creative ideas come about, when
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these aspirational dreams comeabout right, that humans do wild
and wonderful things.
Everything begins as an idea.
Everything begins as an idea.
There is nothing around us thathasn't begun as an idea, and if
every one of those ideas isonly ever examined practically,
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then nothing new will come aboutright.
So to be just wild in yourthoughts, there's nothing wrong
with that.
That is what creates newpossibilities, you know, for
everybody to sit at home andimagine and I, you know
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everybody's talking about this.
I was talking about are we onthe edge of some kind of big
spiritual shift?
If everybody was to sit at homeand ask himself what would a
beautiful, wonderful, loving,caring world look like?
And not worry about how to getit there, not worry about how
the systems of the world don'tsupport that, not worry about
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how, you know, there are toomany people in too many forces
and too many politicians and toomany corporations and too many
structures and institutions.
You know, let go of all of that, we can come to that later.
But just spend some energyimagining what's possible for
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humans.
What could humans accomplish ifthey actually put their mind?
to it and it costs you nothing.
Right, like it costs younothing.
You're going to sit and stareout the window anyway.
You're going to sit, drink yourcoffee and stare off into space
anyway.
Your mind's and this is, Ithink, one of the most important
reframes I just repeat, repeat,repeat, repeat, repeat, because
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I find it has such an enormousimpact on my clients and when
people hear it and think aboutit they go oh, I guess I have
nothing to lose.
Your mind is going to thinkanyway.
Your mind is going to thinkanyway.
So choose what you're thinking,have fun with it.
This is my mind.
It thinks.
So.
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Why don't I think of you knowhow beautiful it is outside?
Why don't I think about howgrateful I am that it was a good
summer?
Why don't I think about how,you know, summers can be
extended and we might have, youknow, a beautiful, extended
summer well, into October?
And why don't I think aboutthese wonderful, uplifting,
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positive thoughts?
if I'm going to think right,because I'm going to think
anyway, and they tend to be.
As we've said so many times,the studies have proven it.
The estimates are between65,000 and 120,000 thoughts each
day, of which between 90% and95% are the same thoughts you
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had yesterday, that the vastmajority of them are some form
of worry or resentment or guilt,and that they don't have to be
that way.
You don't have to think that.
And so if you're thinkinganyway and you tend to think
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negative and you're notsatisfied with your life the way
, it is then maybe that's gotsomething to do with it.
And since it costs absolutelynothing to shift your thoughts
and just start thinkingdifferent things, just think
positive things, just start withsome gratitude.
Move on to some dreaming, moveon to some imagining.
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What would life be like, youknow, be that be that seven year
old kid that imagines havingeverything that they want.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
You know like you're going to use your mind.
Anyway, it's going to thinkanyway.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
why let it repeat all those negative things?
Why not get it into a habit ofthinking really positive things?
I mean, people are so quick tosay don't and react negatively
to that idea, but there's nonegative outcome from that.
The worries will come back whenthey come back.
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Right in this moment I'm notgoing to engage those.
I'm going to engage the way thesun glitters on the water and
how the dog's lying happily andsnoozily and feel like boy.
Am I lucky I'm alive today.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Yeah, I think it's giving us permission to dream.
You know we're allowed to dream, and anybody who made you feel
like you weren't allowed todream whether it was parents or
teachers or society as a whole,you know just in your mind say,
no, I'm taking this back.
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I'm allowed to dream, I'mallowed to put myself out there,
I'm allowed to be who I want tobe.
I'm allowed to um, yeah, justthink up new possible, new
possibilities and and thingsthat I wish for myself.
(32:10):
I think it's so important andyou know you want to be changing
and you want to beincorporating new things in your
life.
I have this.
Well, I think it's kind ofhilarious.
I don't know if clients do, butI'll say to clients you know,
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you don't, you don't imagineright now, you never changed
again until your final breath,like that would be super boring,
right.
It kind of reminds me of thatold, you know guy on his rocking
chair with his shotgun, on hisporch with his dog, you know,
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like just rocking back and forth, not doing anything for the
rest of your life.
And you don't want that.
You want to be changing, youwant to be growing, you want to
be dreaming.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
And if you're not good at it, don't worry about it
.
We just spent the whole weekendalmost suffering through it.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Right, suffering through trying to dream, and you
know, at this point I'mcommitted to try to just keep on
dreaming.
I do.
I do experience moments ofupliftment, of of raising myself
up when I engage, that and um,and I think it's possible to
(33:37):
have little tiny reminders thatyou're capable of this, and when
you just have those little tinymoments where you're dreaming
something funny and it makes yousmile, that's good, that's just
good practice, because it's allpractice, right, everything is
practice.
Whatever's going through yourmind is practice.
So choosing what goes throughyour mind is practicing,
(33:58):
choosing what goes through yourmind, and then you'll get better
at it and you'll get better andbetter and better at it and
little tiny improvementsdramatically improve your life.
I mean, that's been my journey.
That's why I engaged inhypnosis so long ago.
You know why I've engaged inmeditation practices long ago.
(34:20):
You know why I've engaged inmeditation practices, why I read
the vast volumes of stuff thatI read in terms of, you know,
our greater meaning and ourgreater mind and our human mind
and our higher mind and allthese things.
You know, I've just filled myhead with new ideas and that has
significantly just improved myquality of life.
(34:41):
It is worth that practice, evenwhen I catch myself going back
to old ways and old thoughts,I'm now practiced at recognizing
that I used to be bad at it.
Now I'm not good at it, but I'mbetter at it, and as I get
better at it I catch myselfsooner and then I don't go down
(35:05):
those rabbit holes that couldcause me to lose a whole day of
my life to negative thinking andnegative reactions and negative
observation Just trying to findall the problems with life.
So it's just practice.
Thinking is practice.
Whatever you've been thinking,you were practicing thinking
that, and so, yeah, practicesomething else.
(35:28):
Dream a dream somethingaudacious, something way beyond
practicality.
Imagine a perfect world andyour perfect role within that
perfect world.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
I think you know.
A little addition before wewrap up here is, if you've got a
dream, dream about it and findthe little bits of you know,
those little joys that comeabout as you start to dream, and
then you're going to notice,with that dream in mind, that
(36:09):
inspiration, little inspirations, hit you or little doors open
here and there, and when you'rein that joy moment, or when
you're in that inspired moment,take action, right, take those
little actions, um, becausethose doors are now visible to
(36:31):
you.
They were there all the time,but they're visible to you
because you don't have fearblocking them in those joyful
moments heading towards yourdream nice that's, that's
perfect instruction.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, so we're on our third day of dreaming and I
want to dream some more today.
I'm going to go to the gym.
We're going to come back.
We're want to dream some moretoday.
I'm going to go to the gym.
I'm going to come back.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
We're going to dream some more.
Okay Dream, I won't getbreaking this one.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Sweet dreams are made of these.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Dream a little dream for me.
Oh my God, take that out, okay,bye.
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