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Imagination is our most underutilized creative tool, yet it holds the power to transform our lives through expanded awareness and possibilities. 

• Children naturally use imagination, creating entire worlds from simple objects while living fully in their subconscious minds
• Studies show 90% of young children generate hundreds of creative ideas, but this ability dramatically diminishes as we age through education
• Our educational system programs us to focus on right/wrong thinking instead of creative possibilities
• Most innovative companies deliberately cultivate "childlike creativity" in their design processes
• Creative problem-solving involves four stages: clarification, ideation, development, and implementation
• Judgment is the biggest creativity killer – avoid evaluating ideas during the ideation phase
• The "Wouldn't it be nice if?" technique creates an immediate positive shift in emotional state
• Follow with "How would I feel if?" and "What would it look like if?" to engage multiple dimensions
• Holding ideas for 14 seconds generates related concepts; 64 seconds begins manifestation
• Sustained positive emotions become moods, which become attitudes, which become personality traits
• When negative thoughts arise during imagination, simply say "not today" and continue your creative flow


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Speaker 1 (00:13):
So this is the month of May and before we dive into
the month of May on this Patreonexclusive podcast, I just want
to introduce Les he's the otherowner of State of Mind Hypnosis,
and also, if you're interestedin our larger podcast as a whole

(00:37):
, just head on over to ourwebsite and check out the
podcast.
It'll be linked in thedescription below.
So, hi, les.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hi, hilary, we're having coffee, so it's still
kind of coffee with Hilary andLes.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
But it's just for our friends who are dedicated to
their own growth and improvementand trying to find a regular
method of expanding their mindand expanding their horizons in
the future.
So, maybe this one will beparticularly helpful.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, so, as I've been kind of uploading to
Patreon, as you've seen, may isabout expansion, it's about
trying new things, it's aboutmaybe trying new things, it's
about maybe trying new thoughtsand just feeling into this new
type of awareness.
And so, yeah, we thought thismorning it would be good to

(01:37):
think about, well, what startsthe expansion process, what kind
of new thoughts can we have andwhere could that, could that
lead us?

Speaker 2 (01:47):
and where does that come from?
It comes from the imagination.
There you go that's it exactlyimagination.
It's a really underutilizedcreative tool it is it's shame.
You know what happens to us whenwe're young, Because if you
look at any three or four yearold at any given time during the

(02:12):
day, they are lost in theexploration in their own little
mind, of their own little world.
They can pick up any object offthe floor and turn it into
anything they want and thencreate a whole world built
around it and a whole storytaking place in that world, and

(02:33):
they can do that instantaneously.
They can do that naturally.
They do that with abandon thatwas abandoned.
They literally releaseeverything that's around them
that you might call reality andthey go right into their
imagination world.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, yeah, they're really living in the
subconscious mind.
Yeah, we talk about theconscious mind in hypnosis, the
subconscious mind, unconsciousmind, super conscious mind, when
we, you know, cross thoseborders into spiritual hypnosis,
but yeah, they really areliving in that subconscious
world of make-believe and therest of it, right.

(03:15):
So the power of the imaginationis just beyond.
You know, I've, I've, imaginedthings in my past and and, yeah,
they've, they've, many of them,have come true.
It's not, you know, tomorrowsometimes, but it, it builds up

(03:38):
that, that energy, I think.
And and when we're immersed inthat energy and that future or
what we want in our mind, eventhough it might not be right in
front of us, I think it opensdoors, it highlights doors and

(03:59):
they're more visible, so tospeak.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
you know more visible , so to speak.
You know it's sad the way weget programmed out of
imagination.
It's sad the way we get changed.
There's a really neat study Ifyou wanted to see something
really cool.
If you did a Google search ofKen Robinson on education.
He talks about this study.

(04:23):
It's a longitudinal study wherethey took young kids and they
got them to be creative, come upwith ideas on how to use a
paperclip or what could you usea paperclip for, and things like
that.
And little kids can come upwith hundreds of ideas quickly
and easily.

(04:43):
So they did this study and theystarted off this study sort of
classifying kids as geniuses ifthey could come up with hundreds
of ideas from a single question.
And they found that 90 oddpercent of little kids are
fantastic at this.

(05:04):
They're just geniuses at this.
And then they measured this overthe years of their lives to the
point where they were youngadults 16, 17, 18, and found
that this ability haddramatically deteriorated so
that they were hard-pressed tocome up with more than one or

(05:25):
two ideas at any given stimulusquestion.
And what they felt was theyinterpreted, was that this is
the direct result of educationthe thinking that there is a
right way, that there is a rightanswer, that there is right and

(05:45):
there's wrong, and you want toavoid wrong at all costs, and
the epitome of success is to beright, and it really closes the
door on possibilities and itreally takes away the
opportunities that we might haveto otherwise use our

(06:06):
imagination.
It's a skill, it's a tool.
It's this thing that we need touse to keep it alive.
It is, in many respects, someof the most fun stuff we can do
with our mind is imagine andpretend and come up with ideas,

(06:27):
and, you know, non-judgmentallyand I think that's the big
kicker here is judgment.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Yeah, because I know from myself at times, I know
from people that I work with attimes sometimes we want to
imagine something big and great,or different or small, you know
, it doesn't matter.
But what gets in the waysometimes is judging like, well,
you know what if it doesn'thappen?

(06:55):
You know, is this a waste oftime to do this?
I don't want to feel good aboutit and then it doesn't happen.
You know, these things sort ofget in the way.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Well, we really do associate imagination with
children, and when we're usingour imagination, somebody will
tell us we're being childish.
Naive or yeah, all these thingsand that feels like an insult
when I suppose it could be areally good compliment, right To
be suppose it could be a reallygood compliment right To be
childlike, to still be of achild frame of mind, filled with

(07:27):
wonder, filled with possibility, filled with the complete
non-judgment of your owncreativity.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
I think the biggest, mainly because I come from this
world of design.
I think the biggest designcompanies I don't think people
realize this whether you'redesigning a chair, or designing
a kid's toy, or designing a car,you're designing a car there
are whole teams of designers whogo into this level of childlike

(08:05):
creativity and just come upwith stuff, things after things,
after things after things.
I mean they're paid to do thisand they're paid big money for
this stuff and they're paid bigmoney for this stuff.
And so I think it's importantto know that.
You know this isn't somethingto be judgmental of the greatest

(08:28):
things that you work with orthat you drive in or that you
hold in your hand every day,your phone came from the most
creative people.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
I was lucky.
When I was still teaching atthe college and university I got
to take a program from theState University of New York at
Buffalo, so SUNY at Buffalo, andit was the Center for Studies
in Creativity and they reallyhave been able to break down the
ideas or the parts ofcreativity and show how

(09:04):
everybody has a tendency to begood at certain dimensions of
creativity program which wasreally designed on creative
problem solving.
How do you solve problems in inthe most expansive and creative

(09:25):
ways, they say.
The biggest thing, the firstthing that shuts down creativity
is judgment.
You have to when you're in theprocess of what they call
ideation.
But in each stage, creativityis broken down into four stages.
The first is clarificationunderstanding the problem you're
trying to solve.
Ideation coming up with as manydiversely different and unique,

(09:50):
never tried before ideas toaddress a problem.
And development you pick one ortwo of these ideas that sound
like they might solve theproblem and expand on them,
develop them, get them to thepoint where you understand
exactly what you'll do.
And the final stage isimplementation actually doing it

(10:13):
, actually making the change,doing the innovation.
So, if these four stages,absolutely at any of the stage,
but most especially in theideation stage judgment picking
good ideas from bad ideas is aprocess that you don't engage
until you've finished coming upwith as many ideas as possible.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Yeah, I remember a teacher in design school would
have a.
He'd bring in a huge bowl ofcandies at, like little Mars
bars and you know chocolate barsand stuff and anyone who raised
their hand with an idea.
No one was allowed to shootdown the idea or say anything,
yeah, but or anything like that,and he would like throw candies
out to everyone who had an idea.

(10:58):
It was great Just to get theprocess going.
That's right.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
When you're in the process of creating ideas, when
you're in the process ofimagining, you don't put any
limits on it and you don't letanyone try to take it to the
next step.
You just stay in that.
As many novel ideas as possible, right, that as many novel

(11:25):
ideas as possible, right.
The goal is to cover the boardin novel, untried ideas, no
matter how you might judge themlater as being sort of way out
there or bizarre or silly, oryou've got to avoid all of those
thoughts and just focus on thecreating.
And it's amazing, you know,there's long studies that have

(11:46):
shown if you can hold an idea inyour mind for 14 seconds, you
can come up with a whole bunchof ideas just like that.
And if you can hold that bundleof ideas for 64 seconds, you
can actually start the processof manifestation, you can start
the process of creation.

(12:07):
So it's about not just havingan imagination and using your
imagination, it's about stayingwith your imagination, staying
with your imagination for anextended period of time.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Yeah, yeah.
So how do we start that process?

Speaker 2 (12:23):
Well, you know, when we, when we think about the
creative process, we think aboutthe problem, start with the
creative problem solving system,where you start to clarify the
problem.
You want to understand theproblem.
There's nothing wrong withsaying you know, I'm not
satisfied with this aspect of mylife, I'm not satisfied with

(12:45):
myself in this dimension of me,I'm not satisfied with this
aspect of my relationships, I'mnot satisfied with this part of
my career.
It is okay to identify thatwhich you might call a problem
right, and it poses problems tous.
But the point is not to dwellon the problem.

(13:08):
The point is to understand theproblem, separating the actual
facts of the problem from theemotions that it creates in you,
of the problem from theemotions that it creates in you,
and try to create some kind ofseparation there.
But once you've found yourselfhaving even a basic

(13:28):
understanding of what you don'tlike, what you want to change,
what you don't prefer, is areally nice way to say it,
because then there's notjudgment.
This is just not my preference.
But that's the spark, that'sthe moment you can move into
what would be my preference.
And a really nice, simple,simple technique in your mind is

(13:53):
to simply say to yourself.
Wouldn't it be nice if?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Wouldn't it be nice if take that stem of a sentence
and use it over and over andover?
Wouldn't it be nice if?

Speaker 1 (14:09):
I found I did this a while back back in the fall and
just thinking about things thatI wanted in my future, and just
those words actually createdlike a vibration.
I could feel a difference in mybeing as I said them.
You know, it was reallyfascinating.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Right, growing up.
Wouldn't it be nice if I had amillion dollars?
Wouldn't it be nice if I hadall my bills paid?
Wouldn't it be nice if I didn'thave to think about money every
month?
Wouldn't it be nice if I had somuch money that money wasn't a
question anymore?
Wouldn't it be nice if I had amillion dollars and you can see

(15:01):
all the different dimensions ofhaving that million dollars.
Wouldn't it be nice if I had anice new car?
Wouldn't it be nice if I didn'thave to think about that Right
and sort of let that?
Wouldn't it be nice?
Just expand and see all theways that that wouldn't it be
nice.
All those dimensions of yourlife, it would touch all those

(15:24):
dimensions of your life.
It would improve and spend sometime there recognizing that.
And then comes the next greatstep, when you've already you're
already starting to feel better.
You're already noticing thatemotional uplifting.
Um, now you say what would itfeel like if I had a million

(15:45):
dollars?
What would it feel like if Ididn't have to worry about my
bills?
What would it feel like if Inever had to think about money
again?
What would it feel like to havea new car?
What would it feel like to beable to focus all my time and
energy on doing things that arecreative and enjoyable, rather

(16:08):
than the things I feel like Ihave to because I need money.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, I just want to say here the amazing thing about
the mind is that when we ask ita question, it goes to the nth
degree to answer you.
And it might not be right away,it could be in a little bit,
but if you're asking yourself,what would it feel like, the
body will respond at some point.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
And let it, yeah, and enjoy it and get those feelings
.
In NLP they talk about swirling, swirl those emotions, sw in
them, enjoy them, let themexpand to every cell of your
body, let them go from the topof your head to the bottom of
your feet.
At this point you've probablyspent a whole lot more than 64

(16:56):
seconds.
At this point you might'vespent two or three minutes, and
that's a great use of time.
It really is.
It's a fantastic use of yourmind skills.
It's a fantastic use of yourtime to spend your dwelling into
these things and then, onceyou've figured out what it would

(17:17):
be and how it would feel, askyourself what would it look like
if?
And now, really kick thatimagination in.
You know, see yourself in themirror, see your see, see your
clothes on your body, see yourworld around you, allow it to
change Right and now swirl inthat, dwell in that that, dwell

(17:53):
in that.
You're going to discover thatbeing in those feelings and
being in that state of mind isexpanding you.
Dr Joe Dispenza talks about thisreally really well.
Dr Joe Dispenza talks aboutthis really really well.
I love this phrase that he says.
He says if I have an emotionand I hang on to it.
It becomes a mood, and when Ihave a mood and I hang on to it,

(18:18):
it becomes an attitude.
And if I have an attitude and Ihang on to it, it becomes a
personality trait, right, and sowe naturally do this with
negative things, right.
We cling to negative emotions,we get in bad moods, we get
ourselves in a state wherepeople are saying what's wrong
with you?
Right, because we get thatattitude and, unfortunately,

(18:42):
because life conditions don'tchange unless we actively change
them, it's really easy for youto suddenly find that you have
this personality trait that isvery, very negative.
But the fantastic thing aboutthat is it works positively too.
If I can get myself into apositive emotion and I hang on

(19:03):
to it, it becomes a positivemood.
And if I can hang on to thispositive mood, then it starts to
become a positive attitude.
And if I can hang on to thatattitude, it starts to become a
personality trait and soon I'mknown, known as this creative,
excited, imaginative person thatothers are drawn to.

(19:27):
So imagine what you bring intoyour life just by carrying
around a personality ofimagination, excitement and
positivity.
That's like a beacon of lightin a world of darkness.
People are drawn to you andimagine what that brings to you

(19:48):
All these wonderful peoplebringing all these wonderful
things to you because they'redrawn to you, right?
So that alone expands yourcircle of friends, it expands
your horizons, it expands yourpossibilities, it expands your
life in almost every dimensionyou can think of.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah, I love that.
I love that.
I think that was probably oneof our best podcast.
I hope so.
We have over a hundred and thatwas the best.
Yeah, I hope that was helpfulfor you guys.
And do you have?

Speaker 2 (20:26):
anything else to add.
Well, let's just remember thesequestions, understand the
problem.
Then wouldn't it be nice if?
How would I feel if?
What would it look like if?

Speaker 1 (20:41):
what would it look like if Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, and just
any little thoughts that get inthe way, any of those little
niggly, yeah, but thoughts.
Just say not today and justkeep saying the question to
yourself, yeah set them aside Tobe able to go upwards.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Say that again.
Set them aside.
Set those thoughts aside, notyet.
Avoid the judgment.
Stay in the creativity, yeah.
Say that again.
Set them aside.
Set those thoughts aside, notyet Avoid the judgments.
Stay in the creativity, yeah.
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