September 9, 2025 • 41 mins
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Ciera welcomes physical therapist-developed program creator Camille to explore the misunderstood world of postpartum recovery and body confidence. With raw honesty, Camille shares how her personal struggle with persistent "mommy tummy" led to a life-changing revelation: nearly one-third of mothers unknowingly suffer from diastasis recti (abdominal separation), and conventional ab workouts like crunches and planks actually worsen this condition rather than improve it.
Through her husband Jared's expertise as a doctor of physical therapy, Camille discovered that healing required a fundamentally different approach—specialized rehabilitation exercises targeting the deep core muscles rather than superficial "six-pack" muscles. What began as her personal journey transformed into the Mommy Tummy Fix program, helping thousands of women understand their bodies weren't "broken," just in need of proper rehabilitation.
The conversation dives deep into why traditional fitness advice fails postpartum women, exploring how the program combines gentle core rehab, low-impact cardio that doesn't stress hormones, and simple nutrition habits anyone can maintain. Most powerfully, Camille reflects on her surprising discovery that true confidence never came from achieving a certain size or weight, but from appreciating her body's capabilities and treating herself with the same grace she extends to others.
Whether you're recently postpartum or decades beyond childbirth, this episode offers practical wisdom for reconnecting with your body and rebuilding confidence from the inside out. Camille's closing story about a 74-year-old grandmother healing her decades-old diastasis recti proves it's never too late to address these common but rarely discussed postpartum challenges. Subscribe now and join Sierra's new newsletter community by visiting confidentlybeautifulwithsierra.com for more content that nurtures both inner and outer beauty.
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Ciera (00:03):
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I am so excited for today'sguest.
It is somebody that I haveadmired and looked up to for a
very long time, someone that Ihave actually followed her
program and seen great success.
I started using her programback when it was like paper.
It was either after my first orsecond baby.
So seven, nine years since I'vebeen using her program and I
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love it.
I've used it after every babyand all the in-between, because
it doesn't matter how long youare postpartum If you are a
postpartum mom, her program isgoing to be amazing for you.
So I love her.
I think she is a really goodexample of spreading positivity
and confidence in motherhood andreally, really practical
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motherhood thing.
Her advice is stuff that busy,busy moms can use every single
day and they don't have to beatthemselves up for not fulfilling
something that they are wanting.
They can check something offtheir box that is simple and
easy to fulfill.
Here is my interview withCamille.
I am so excited for you to hearit.
(02:13):
Let's listen.
I'm so excited to have you onthe podcast.
For those of our listeners whoare not familiar with you, can
you tell us a little about youand your husband and your Mommy?
Tummy Fix program.
Camille (02:31):
I have been married to my husband, jared, for 21 years.
I feel like we have been goingat this for a long time.
We have four awesome kids andthey are my top priority my
family.
We love to be together, we lovemaking memories together.
Just my favorite things in liferevolve around them.
So family is number one for us.
But yes, together, jared and Imy husband created the Mommy
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Tummy Fix, and it's a health andfitness program.
My husband is a doctor ofphysical therapy.
That's what he went to schoolfor, that's what he does for his
day job.
And this program isspecifically for moms who are
struggling with a mommy tummy,or that's what it's referred to.
(03:15):
I have I'm doing quotations withmy fingers right now because
that's what so many moms call itLike oh, I just have this pooch
that remains after I have kids,and it's actually caused by a
condition called diastasis rectior, in another way to put it,
is an ab separation in your core.
And what is so crazy is thatone third of all moms have this
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condition and most of them don'teven know it.
They don't know that this is anactual thing and they just
think that after having babies,it's normal that you just have
this lingering tummy that sticksaround.
But for most women it'sactually undiagnosed diastasis
recti and that just means whileyou were pregnant, your ab
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muscles separated and theyweren't able to come back
together on their own.
Now for two thirds of women itdoes come back together on their
own.
Now, for two thirds of women itdoes come back together on its
own, but for that remaining onethird of us it's going to
actually take some rehab.
And after having four babiesmyself, I was in my mid thirties
after my fourth baby and, um, Iwas just so frustrated because,
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no matter how hard I worked out, my tummy just wouldn't go away
and no matter how many crunchesand planks and burpees and HIIT
workouts I would do to likeburn calories, little did I know
I actually had diastasis recti,this ab separation, and the
things that I was doing wereactually making it worse.
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And I know it's funny.
I live with a doctor ofphysical therapy and he
suspected that I had thiscondition.
But you know how sometimes youjust don't want to take advice
from your spouse, like you wantto figure it out yourself and I
thought I know how to loseweight, I knew how to do ab
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exercises, and so I was justlike determined to do it on my
own.
But it came to a point where Ijust told Jared, look, I need
your help, like what I'm doingisn't working.
And he was like, can I just seeif you have this condition?
And I was like, sure.
And so he had me lay on theground and he showed me how to
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check for diastasis recti.
And we actually made a YouTubevideo of this of me that very
day that I came to him and saidI need some help.
And he's like can I film this?
And I'm like, yeah, whatever,you're a YouTuber, that's fine.
And he's like, can I film this?
And I'm like, yeah, whatever,you're a YouTuber, that's fine.
But little did I know.
It was the beginning of theMommy Tell Me Fix program and so
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he checked.
I had a three-finger abseparation and he was like, look
, I know how to do this, I knowhow to fix this, I know how to
treat it.
He's like, but you have to dowhat I say, and sometimes you
don't want to do what yourhusband's telling you to do.
But he wrote down all thethings and demonstrated all the
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exercises that I needed to doand they seemed so simple, they
seemed so easy.
I thought I needed to dohardcore planks and crunches and
mountain climbers until I wasblue in the face and just
sweating profusely.
And he had to remind me overand over again that these are
actually rehab exercises.
It's not a workout.
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And when I kind of made thatshift in my brain, that's when
it made all the difference.
I was actually learning how torehab my body after having four
babies, after all the growingand expanding and stretching and
saggy skin and stretch marks,like I needed to do some things
to take care of my body.
And so he ran me through hisprogram, a protocol that he runs
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all his patients through thatcome in with this diastasis
recti.
And he just kept saying is itokay if I film this?
Is it okay if I film this?
Is it okay if we take picturesof this?
And we kind of filmed myjourney and shared it.
And that's how the Mommy TummyFix was born.
Jared wanted to take physicaltherapy to the masses to be able
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to offer this to moms who maybedon't have time to go to
physical therapy or theirinsurance doesn't cover it or
it's just too expensive.
And so that's what the MommyTell Me Fix program is.
It focuses on safe core rehab,fat burning, cardio and then
simple nutrition, and it'sdifferent than anything else
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that I had ever done, but it waswhat made the changes for me,
and so that's when I got onboard and said, okay, let's do
this, and the Mommy, tummy Fixwas born, so how many years ago
was that that you both startedthis program?
So it was in April 2019.
I started doing the program in2018.
And that's when we started likeplaying around with it.
(08:00):
I had my last kid in 2017, cameto Jared in 2018, ran me
through the program.
I saw all the changes and thenhe's like, okay, I am going to
take this to the world, we aregoing to share this with moms
who need it, and so 2019 is whenwe launched it.
Ciera (08:17):
That's crazy.
So I was trying to remember,because I was back in the day
when you guys were like printedout on paper your program and I
was trying to remember it wasafter my first baby or after my
second baby, and it was after mysecond baby.
Oh my gosh she was born in 2018.
So I probably started in 20192020.
And yeah, I like printed it out.
(08:38):
I still have the papers oh mygosh, still have it.
And then I had moved to yourapp after I had my third baby
and I still do all of yourYouTube videos.
I love it, oh my gosh.
Camille (08:49):
You are the best, and isn't it fascinating Like you
came back to it after your nextbaby?
Ciera (08:55):
Yeah, because you work baby later.
I'm still doing it, I love it.
Camille (09:00):
Yes, it just is learning how to take care of
yourself in a different way.
After having babies, so muchchanges.
We know how much our bodieschange and so, yes, it's a whole
new world.
Ciera (09:13):
And, like you said, I was surprised at how simple it was.
Like I mean, it wasn'tnecessarily easy because, like I
was still rehabbing and like Icould still feel, like my core
was still sore the next day,like oh my gosh yes.
But I was like this is notrocket science, like this is not
complicated.
So isn't it funny, it is, canyou kind of?
(09:34):
I mean you kind of alluded toit already.
But what?
How is this program so muchdifferent than other postpartum
programs that are out there?
Camille (09:42):
Well, if you jump on YouTube and you Google ab
workouts or even ab workouts forwomen, you're going to get some
really intense moves of justsome crazy jackknifes and
jumping planks and these movesthat they do leave your six-pack
muscles feeling sore, becausethat's what it focuses on.
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But what the Mommy Tell Me Fixfocuses on is a couple of
different layers of muscles thatyou have in your body, because
we are focusing on the deep core, the entire core, which is made
up of like 29 different musclesor something like all these
different parts that play intoit.
And many times the ab workoutsthat you find just focus on
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those six pack muscles right inthe front.
But we're going to address theentire core.
So a lot of our exercises focuson the transverse abdominus,
that muscle that starts in theback of your spine and wraps all
the way around to the front.
We're going to focus on ourobliques internally and
externally and we're going tohit all of those things along
with your six pack muscles, butwe're going to work it all
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together at the same time.
So that's the first is thatdeep core rehab of just teaching
your muscles to come backtogether after being expanded to
new sizes during pregnancy.
And then we take a more holisticapproach when it comes to
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taking care of yourself.
We use low impact cardio or lowimpact workouts and that burn
fat effectively without puttingstress on your body.
Your hormones, after you havekids, are already all over the
place, and then, as we get older, our hormones change again, and
the workouts that we focus onin our program do help you burn
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fat without putting that extrastress on your body, without
causing that spike in cortisolcausing your hormones to go even
more squampus.
And so we couple the rehab withthe fat burning workouts, and
then we just focus on simplenutrition, and what we mean by
that is, instead of telling youokay, you're going to eat this
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many calories and you've got tohit this macro account and
you've got to eat these recipesand nothing else, instead we say
let's just focus on healthychoices.
Today, we're going to eat fiveservings of fruits and veggies.
Get more fruits and veggies in,add an extra one at every meal.
Today we're going to focus ondrinking water.
Drink more water, find ways tocut back on soda and add more
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water to the things you'redrinking.
We just have these habits thatwe learn to incorporate into our
lives, so it's not somerestricting diet, it's not
something where we're focusingon deprivation, but instead
we're just focusing on thesesmall sustainable shifts that
you can incorporate into yourlife, that feel good and that
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feel doable, and we just put anemphasis on small daily choices
really do add up.
And then on top of that, we dotap into the mental health a
little bit, because confidenceisn't just about a flatter belly
, it's not about just losingthat mommy tummy, but it's about
how you feel in your body andhow you feel in your life and
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how you're handling your life.
Ciera (13:04):
Definitely I love all of that because it's so.
There's such like littlechanges, simple changes that you
can make that will have a hugeimpact.
But if you miss one one day,it's not like, oh my gosh, I'm a
failure, like I didn't do it, Ididn't get my 45 minute workout
in, or whatever, like it's notgoing to attack your confidence
or make you feel less aboutyourself, which I love.
Camille (13:25):
Exactly so many moms struggle with that all or
nothing mindset.
Like you just said, I didn'twork out for 45 minutes today,
like I'm thinking what mom has45 minutes that she can dedicate
to just working out?
I'm lucky if I get 10 minutesin the morning and a 10 minute
walk to pick up my elementaryschool kids and a five minute
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walk, as I, you know, go talk tomy neighbor across the street,
like that's real life and that'smom life.
And so I think, when werecognize that you know what
every minute of movement countsand and it doesn't have to look
a certain way and it doesn'thave to be perfect, but it's
just doing the best that you canevery day, and it doesn't have
to look a certain way and itdoesn't have to be perfect, but
it's just doing the best thatyou can every day and that's
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enough.
Ciera (14:10):
Yeah, definitely.
So what are some of the biggestmisconceptions that you find
that moms have about how theirbody should be after pregnancy,
especially when it comes totheir tummy?
Do you find that there's apattern in what people feel like
about their tummy?
Camille (14:25):
Yeah, absolutely.
It's so interesting when womenfirst learn about our program or
start our program because theyare used to these ab workouts
that they have to, that arepretty intense and that they are
doing pretty insane stuff.
And the biggest misconceptionthat not only I had but that
I've seen so many other momshave is that you need to do more
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planks, you need to do morecrunches, you need to burn more
calories in order to lose weightand to look a certain way.
And it's so interesting whenthey join our program and we
kind of just dial it back and wejust say, hey, let's slow
things down, let's do a slower,more intentional exercise with
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our low impact workouts.
Let's do some deep core rehabinstead of crunching our body
away for 500 crunches, like wejust focus more on slowing it
down a little bit and helpingmoms realize that you can do
gentle, intentional exercisesthat are actually going to help,
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more than pushing yourself tothese limits that are
unrealistic, especially whenyou're a mom and especially if
you've had a baby in the lastfew years.
Ciera (15:42):
There's a lot of advice out there about like body image
after pregnancy and like.
One of the things that I oftenhear is just be grateful for the
body that made that carriedyour baby.
Be grateful because this bodyis what like gave you your baby,
which is so true.
But do you have any otheradvice that can maybe help moms
with that mindset of likerecognizing their body after
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pregnancy and like beinggrateful for it, but like not
damaging their confidence, likeas they're looking at their body
?
Does that make sense?
Camille (16:14):
Absolutely yeah.
And it's so funny because wesay those things and we hear
those things like, oh, I shouldjust focus on what my body did
and be grateful for that.
And it's like, yeah, thatsounds really nice.
But when I'm looking at themirror at my body, and it looks
nothing like it used to afterhaving a baby, or it looks
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nothing like the bodies that Isee on social media or the moms
who are just crushing it in thegym, and I'm like what is wrong
with me?
What is wrong with me and forme and I'm just going to speak
for what has really helped meand how I've kind of worked
through it myself I really kindof had to tap in more to the
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spiritual side of my body andrecognize that my body is
actually such a gift.
Recognize that my body isactually such a gift and I don't
know what higher power or Godor anything that the listeners
believe in or that you believein, but, like for me, I believe
that my body is a gift from Godand he's given it to me to not
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only take care of it but alsolearn how to take care of it,
and it kind of given me thestewardship over this body and
my job is to honor and respectthis gift that I've been given
and that means learning how totake care of it in every season
of my life and, like right now,I'm in my forties, I'm entering
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this new season of changinghormones and perimenopause and
all of these things, and I'vehad to change how I take care of
my body again.
And it can be frustratingsometimes because the things
that I was doing even two yearsago, aren't working and I need
to switch it a little bit towork better with my hormones.
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And and even that, I'dsometimes get so frustrated
because I'm looking in themirror going, oh, my body is not
what it was two years ago, butthen recognizing what a gift,
what a gift that I have thisbody that works, and what a gift
that I get to learn how to takecare of it, and it kind of
becomes like not an experiment,but almost like, oh, I'm going
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to try out some things, I'mgoing to get curious about the
best way to take care of my body, and when I look at it from
that angle, I feel like itcreates more compassion and
kindness instead of criticism.
Ciera (18:43):
Yeah, I love that idea of getting curious about how you
can take care of your body andyou know we are interested with
these bodies and like and noteveryone's body I feel like is
going to be like aone-size-fits-all answer on how
to take care of it.
There's good guidelines, I think, for everyone.
But yeah, like you said, yourbody two years ago isn't the
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same as your body now and sojust treating it as more of like
a um, like, like you said, notan experiment, but kind of an
experiment, like you know, justtrying to figure things out, I
really like that mindset.
That's really good.
So if a mom listening feelslike they're discouraged about
their body, their confidence,what's one thing that they could
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do today that would help themto feel better about themselves?
Camille (19:31):
Something that we always say in our Mommy Tell Me
Fix program.
We've got a community in theapp and, as more moms have
joined, we've been having somegood discussions lately.
But one of my favorite thingsis to give yourself grace.
As moms, we are so good atdishing out grace to everyone
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around us to our kids, to ourspouse, to our partner, to our
friends, to the neighbors.
We just we cut everybody abreak and we give them grace,
and we're just naturally so goodat that as moms, except when it
comes to ourselves.
And so we've been having adiscussion lately about what
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does it look like to giveyourself grace as a mom?
What does it look like to giveyourself grace as a woman, as a
daughter, as a wife, and it'sreally interesting.
We have one mom in our programwho just finished some cancer
treatments and going throughthat and it was really
interesting because she she didthe program, she lost weight,
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she was able to heal herdiastasis recti and she was like
just crushing her life.
And then she was diagnosed withbreast cancer and she stayed in
the program because she's likeI just I need you guys around me
like cheering me on.
She was so tired from doingchemotherapy and she didn't have
the energy to do things thatshe used to do.
And she her eating kind of fell, fell off.
(21:03):
She was like I was just eatingwhatever sounded good and
usually it wasn't things thatwere good for me and, um, she
wasn't able to work out like sheused to.
She used to go on walks and shehad gotten to the point where
she was walking five miles a dayand now she couldn't even have
enough energy to get out thedoor.
And um, she said I was lookingin the mirror at myself and as I
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was going through these cancertreatments, and I was just so
disappointed.
And then she's like, and then itpopped into my head Give
yourself grace, give yourselfgrace in this season, give
yourself understanding and lovelike you do for everybody else.
And it just shifted in her mindlike, oh, this is what we talk
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about.
This is a season where I reallyhave to give myself some grace
and recognize it's not alwaysgoing to be like this, but for
the time that it is, I'm justgoing to be really kind to
myself and I think if you canstart to have that conversation
with yourself and it's reallyhard if you are especially not
talking very kindly to yourselfto suddenly start talking kindly
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, but it's baby steps.
Maybe say something that'sneutral to yourself in the
middle and work towards sayingsomething kind.
Work towards being able to giveyourself that grace that you
need and deserve from yourself.
Ciera (22:21):
That's beautiful and I love that you have that
community within your app.
How amazing is that that she isgoing through this hard thing in
her life and she has this bandof women supporting her like
that.
So I saw a reel today and I wishI could remember who posted it,
but it was something like thatabout giving yourself grace,
like it was like a clip of her Ithink she was like crying on
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the couch or something and thenthere was another clip of her at
the gym, like totally crushingit.
Then there was another clip ofher playing with her kids and
then another clip of her doingsomething else and they were
like highs and lows kinds ofyeah, but it said that this is
me doing my best, and sobasically the point of it was
like your best can be like whenyou're on the couch, like, and
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you don't can't get like.
When you're on the couch, likeand you don't can't get up, like
you're just having a hard day,that's your best for that day.
But then you're like with yourkids and you're playing and
you're like totally mom mode,like 100%, that's also your best
.
Just whatever your day lookslike can be your best, which I
thought was like reallybeautiful, and so it goes along
with what you were saying aboutgrace.
Camille (23:27):
So it goes along with what you were saying about grace
.
I love that because I thinksometimes we expect that we have
to be at that crazy high levelall the time, that that is the
best if we can be up at the top.
But that's not realistic.
That's not how our bodies aremade.
I mean, we literally have a28-day cycle highs and lows and
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it's built into who we are aswomen Like we are going to have
different bests for every day.
And when you start to recognizethat and understand that and
also give yourself grace, thaton those days where it's a couch
day and I need to, I need torest and I need some downtime,
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perfect, that's your best fortoday and that's enough.
Ciera (24:14):
I love that.
Everyone has their own versionof confidence and their own idea
of what confidently beautifulis.
What is your idea of what aconfidently beautiful woman?
Camille (24:24):
is.
You know, it's so fascinating.
I always thought if my bodylooked a certain way, that I
would be confident, and if I wasa certain number on the scale,
that I would be not onlyconfident but happy too.
And it's so funny because I'vehad seasons in my life where I
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have gotten down to a certainsize or certain weight and my
body's looked a certain way andI can tell you that is not where
confidence comes from.
It's also not where happinesscomes from.
In fact, it was at some of thelowest points in my life and
also the least confident pointsin my life and also the least
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confident points in my life.
And so it was so interestingbecause I remember one day there
was a season in my life where Ifollowed some crazy diet trends
to lose weight really fast,really drastically.
This was long before the mommytummy fix and, like, I loved the
size that I was at, but theside effects were horrendous.
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I was so tired, I had acne allover my face because I was not
getting nutrients.
I was dehydrated because I wasnot drinking water, because I
thought, well, that's waterweight.
That's how messed up I was.
And honestly, I was depressed.
And even though I was a certainsize, I still didn't feel like
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I looked good and it just Istill remember one day thinking,
huh, I thought this is whatwould make me feel confident, I
thought this is what would makeme feel happy and and it wasn't.
And it was this realization ofthat's not where confidence
comes from.
It's not a body size, and soI've learned.
It's a feeling for me, afeeling of strength, a feeling
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of being capable.
I had no energy when I wasn'teating and fueling my body in a
way that it was doing moredamage than good, and I didn't
feel comfortable in my own skin.
My world revolved around caloriecounting and the mindset issues
with that, and I exercised onlybecause I almost saw it as a
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punishment for how my bodylooked and how it was, and
because I didn't like it and Ijust had to make those big
shifts and I had to learn thatconfidence really did come from
appreciating what my body coulddo at any size and learning to
see my body as a gift at anysize.
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I love that I can keep up withmy kids.
I love that I can carry my kidseven as my kids are getting
bigger, like I'm strong.
I'm a strong mom and I lovethat I'm taking care of my body
in a way that gives me strengthand energy to do that.
I love that because I'm fuelingmy body.
In a way my body loves thatacne cleared up.
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No mom wants acne, like that'ssupposed to be a teenager
problem, but it was a very realthing for me because I wasn't
fueling my body.
And, anyways, when I learnedhow to take care of my body and
show up for myself in that way,that's where my confidence came
from and that's where my bodyconfidence really took off.
Ciera (27:43):
Thank you for sharing that.
I think a lot of listeners canprobably relate to that.
Camille (27:48):
I know so many moms are stuck in that place because I
was there and I was there for solong, and I feel like that's
why I have to share the thingsthat I share so that hopefully I
can help some mom get out ofthat same abyss that I was in.
Ciera (28:03):
Yeah, yeah.
What is one thing you try anddo every day to help your
confidence grow, even just alittle bit?
Camille (28:11):
I have learned the thing that I need to do for me
every day is show up for myselfsomehow some way every day, and
that means some time away frommy kids just doing something for
me, time away from my kids justdoing something for me.
(28:33):
And it sounds so silly and itsounds so simple, but it can be
just a five minute walk.
When my kids were really littleand Jared was in physical
therapy school, he would be goneall day and he'd get home so
late at night and I'd alreadyhave the kids fed and in bed and
he would come through the doorand be like I'm home and I'm
like great, I'm leaving to go ona walk because I need some me
(28:56):
time.
And that was even like 15 yearsago, let's see, yeah, 15 years
ago, more than that, like 17years ago, and I've been doing
it ever since.
I just need a couple of minutesjust for me to reconnect with me
and it just helps in everyaspect of my life and helps me
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to show up as a better wife anda better mom.
And I can't always get away fora walk, but I can always find
five minutes alone in my closetto read a book for five pages of
a book.
Or I've even hid in thebathroom before and locked the
door and just read a book on myphone even I took it in there
(29:43):
with me.
Just little things that I do tojust kind of catch my breath,
reconnect with myself, so I cango back out and face the world
and take it all on.
And that's what I do for myselfevery day.
Ciera (29:59):
I love that.
That's good advice, thank you.
It's so fun to hear whateveryone does.
Everyone's is different and Ilove it so fun.
Well, can you give?
Are there some?
You have your YouTube channel,but are there any resources that
listeners can go and find moreabout you and learn more about
how they can improve their bodyconfidence and feel good about
(30:20):
themselves?
Camille (30:21):
and feel good about themselves, absolutely.
So our YouTube channel is whereyou will find the workouts and
things that introduce you todiastasis recti, even like tests
that you can do on yourself inlike 60 seconds to check and see
if you have this ab separationcondition.
And what's fascinating, too, isyou might not even have an
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actual muscle ab muscleseparation but you just might
have a weak core, and theseexercises, these rehab exercises
, will also help with that.
So not only like a pooch or abelly that remains after having
a baby, but any type of coreweakness.
These are the rehab exercisesyou do.
So you'll find them on ourYouTube channel.
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Also, moms that have low backpain that's a sign of diastasis
recti or a weak core.
So these exercises will alsohelp you as well.
Um, and then if you go over toour website, mommy, tell me
fixcom, you can try the app forfree for seven days.
We just barely, we totallyrevamped it.
(31:25):
We relaunched it about six orseven weeks ago.
We just made it more beautiful,more easy to use, added more
workouts, more recipes, morecoaching calls, just more
resources to help you on yourjourney, and so that's fun.
Um, so you can try it free forseven days.
(31:47):
Mommy tell me fixcom.
Also on the mommy tell me fixcom, there's a free 14 day core
challenge.
If you want to kind of try itout, see what this mommy tell me
fix program would be like.
It's just the core rehabexercises so you can do that for
two weeks.
We also have, um uh, 10,000steps a day challenge.
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That's free.
That just helps you get into aroutine of moving and you can
get those steps while you vacuumand while you mop and while you
clean up your house like momlife.
That's just helping you be moreintentional about moving
throughout the day.
So there's a lot of differentthings going on.
Plus, you can find us onInstagram, tiktok, facebook and
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then we also have a podcast aswell.
Ciera (32:31):
I love that what's?
Camille (32:31):
your podcast called.
So it's called Moms on the Riseand it kind of leans into more
of the mental side, just takingcare of yourself as a mom, and
so we've got you covered betweenthe physical and the mental,
and we tap into the emotionalstuff with our coaching.
So we've got you covered.
I love it.
(32:52):
You need all of it.
Ciera (32:53):
So I know all of it.
Camille (32:55):
We deserve all of it.
Yes.
Ciera (32:57):
Well, it sounds like you have so many free resources.
I know that even the paid stuffis like under, like you don't
charge enough for what, for whatyou get, like it is so good, so
I will include my affiliatecode in the show notes.
But yes, it can.
All of your stuff is amazing,so I'll include links to
(33:17):
everything, the freebies and allof that that you listeners can
go and grab.
Can you quickly, just before wego, can you just tell us about
your 75 Rise program?
Camille (33:27):
Yes, so this is something that I've shared on
the podcast because, like I said, it kind of leans into more of
the mental side of things.
But 75 Rise came from the ideaof 75 hard.
Have you seen that challengearound TikTok and where for 75
days you follow this protocolperfectly and then if you mess
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up, you have to start your 75days over?
And so many people were doingit online and they were seeing
success.
But that was because it was sostrict and it was so time
consuming and it was all lifeencompassing, like it took over
your life for 75 days, and itwas a really good like mental
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exercise.
I would say like how well canyou stick to something perfectly
?
But what they were finding isthat the mental side effects of
that were so damaging,especially for moms, because
moms their lives vary from dayto day.
You might have a sick kid, youmight have to run your kid to
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run their paper to them atschool, you might have an extra
carpool thrown in that you can'tdo that second workout of the
day because, yes, there are twoworkouts required every day in
75 hard.
It's crazy, right, it's notrealistic.
Ciera (34:52):
Sometimes I can't get five minutes, so yeah.
Camille (34:54):
And you have to do two 45 minute workouts spread
throughout your day, like it'sjust not happening.
And what's so funny is, when Isaw this challenge arise, I
thought, oh, I am doing that.
That is going to be a reallygood way to test my ability to
commit.
And I did it for like two daysand then one of my kids got sick
, and then we went on vacationand then I had a busy time at
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work, a busy season at work, andI was like, okay, never mind,
this is not working for me.
And I started it so many timesand quit so many times and I
thought there's got to be adifferent way, because I like
the habits that it teaches youto incorporate, but I didn't
like that it required perfection, because that's not realistic
and it teaches you that it hasto be everything or nothing at
(35:42):
all.
And so I thought there's got tobe a better way to do it and I
thought what if I just startwith one habit and for one week
I focus on this one habit, andthen, by week two, I'll add on a
second habit, and then, weekthree, I'll add on another
little habit?
And these habits were little.
And then I got to week four andit was a crazy week and I was
(36:03):
like, okay, I'm not addinganything on.
And I was talking to atherapist about this and she was
like, actually, that is areally good way to stay
committed to something is totake weeks where you just kind
of stay where you're at, catchyour breath and then keep going
on.
And so I worked those into my75 days of working on these
(36:24):
habits.
Anyways, by the end of 75 days Ihad incorporated these eight
habits into my life and I wascrushing them every day because
I did it at a cadence that feltright to me and I did it at a
cadence that worked for my momlife and also didn't punish me
if I didn't do it perfectly.
(36:44):
And so I was talking to some ofmy colleagues about it and I
was telling them, like this iswhat I've been doing.
They're like, oh my gosh, Ineed that.
I need you to like outline whatyou did, because that's what I
need in my life to kind ofjumpstart taking care of myself
and jumpstart working habitsback into my life.
So put it all together, sharedthe trackers that I made and the
(37:07):
exact habits that I used over75 days to get where I needed to
be.
And what's so fascinating is Igot the same outcome that people
get from 75 hard.
By the end, I was doing a lot ofthings every day to show up for
myself.
I had lost the weight that Iwas hoping to lose.
I was feeling really good in mybody, but I did it in a way
(37:29):
that didn't punish me when Imessed up, that didn't require
perfection and it just felt good.
So that's what 75 Rises is.
I walk you through this 75-dayprotocol of how to incorporate
habits at a cadence and a speedthat feels good to you, and
healthy habits, um.
(37:49):
I kind of use some generic onesthat are a good framework that
everyone could put into theirlives.
But you can.
It's interchangeable.
You can swap out the habits ifyou want to, or add your own Um,
and I explained that in theprogram, but yeah, 75 rise, it's
(38:13):
just $27 and it walks youthrough the 75 days.
So that's awesome.
And is that within your app oris it something separate?
That one is separate, butthat's a good idea I didn't even
think about.
I could put that in the app.
Ciera (38:22):
Something to think about.
Maybe someday it will be in theapp then.
Yeah, I didn't even think aboutthat.
Well, cool.
Well, thank you so much,Camille.
I am so glad that we got tohave this conversation.
I think it's.
I think it's really good fornot just moms who are recently
postpartum, but like maybe 15years postpartum, Like you know.
I think it's totally good foranyone who wants to just improve
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their core.
I'm sure it's actually probablybeneficial for men too, I would
imagine Absolutely.
Camille (38:50):
We have had.
We've actually had over a dozendad success stories, because
the anatomy is the same.
Those core muscles well,obviously, the anatomy of the
core, not the entire body,anatomy of the core is the same
and you will.
Muscles obviously anatomy ofthe core, not the entire body.
Anatomy of the core is the sameand you will.
You engage those muscles in thesame way.
And while dads maybe aren'tpregnant or have, you know,
(39:13):
growing a baby, they alsostruggle with a tight core and,
like I said a lot of times, it'score weakness and so by
focusing on deep core rehabexercises, it tightens your
tummy right up.
And I was going to tell you too,the oldest woman who has done
our Mommy Tummy Fix program was74.
(39:35):
And she was watching.
She just became a great grandma, she just had her first great
grandchild and she saw us onlineand she was like, oh my gosh, I
wonder if this is why my wholelife I have always felt like
I've had this little pooch, andso, sure enough, she laid on the
(39:57):
ground, she did the way toself-check for diastasis recti
that Jared shows you on ourYouTube channel, and she had
like a three finger gap allthese years after having a baby,
and so she joined our app anddid the exercises and she like,
reached out.
One day.
She's like.
I am so excited to tell you Ihave closed my gap.
(40:18):
At 74 years old, I have healedmy ab separation.
So there are grandmas doingthis, strengthening their core,
healing those muscles, even allthese years later.
It's it's pretty awesome.
Ciera (40:32):
That's so cool.
Okay so, grandmas, moms,everyone, everyone listening,
this is for you, it's foreverybody.
Oh, I love it.
Well, thank you so much,Camille.
It's been a great time talkingto you.
Camille (40:43):
No, thank you for having me.
You are delightful and I hadsuch a good time.
Ciera (40:48):
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I am so excited for today'sguest.
It is somebody that I haveadmired and looked up to for a
very long time, someone that Ihave actually followed her
program and seen great success.
I started using her programback when it was like paper.
It was either after my first orsecond baby.
So seven, nine years since I'vebeen using her program and I
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love it.
I've used it after every babyand all the in-between, because
it doesn't matter how long youare postpartum If you are a
postpartum mom, her program isgoing to be amazing for you.
So I love her.
I think she is a really goodexample of spreading positivity
and confidence in motherhood andreally, really practical
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motherhood thing.
Her advice is stuff that busy,busy moms can use every single
day and they don't have to beatthemselves up for not fulfilling
something that they are wanting.
They can check something offtheir box that is simple and
easy to fulfill.
Here is my interview withCamille.
I am so excited for you to hearit.
(02:13):
Let's listen.
I'm so excited to have you onthe podcast.
For those of our listeners whoare not familiar with you, can
you tell us a little about youand your husband and your Mommy?
Tummy Fix program.
Camille (02:31):
I have been married to my husband, jared, for 21 years.
I feel like we have been goingat this for a long time.
We have four awesome kids andthey are my top priority my
family.
We love to be together, we lovemaking memories together.
Just my favorite things in liferevolve around them.
So family is number one for us.
But yes, together, jared and Imy husband created the Mommy
(02:55):
Tummy Fix, and it's a health andfitness program.
My husband is a doctor ofphysical therapy.
That's what he went to schoolfor, that's what he does for his
day job.
And this program isspecifically for moms who are
struggling with a mommy tummy,or that's what it's referred to.
(03:15):
I have I'm doing quotations withmy fingers right now because
that's what so many moms call itLike oh, I just have this pooch
that remains after I have kids,and it's actually caused by a
condition called diastasis rectior, in another way to put it,
is an ab separation in your core.
And what is so crazy is thatone third of all moms have this
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condition and most of them don'teven know it.
They don't know that this is anactual thing and they just
think that after having babies,it's normal that you just have
this lingering tummy that sticksaround.
But for most women it'sactually undiagnosed diastasis
recti and that just means whileyou were pregnant, your ab
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muscles separated and theyweren't able to come back
together on their own.
Now for two thirds of women itdoes come back together on their
own.
Now, for two thirds of women itdoes come back together on its
own, but for that remaining onethird of us it's going to
actually take some rehab.
And after having four babiesmyself, I was in my mid thirties
after my fourth baby and, um, Iwas just so frustrated because,
(04:23):
no matter how hard I worked out, my tummy just wouldn't go away
and no matter how many crunchesand planks and burpees and HIIT
workouts I would do to likeburn calories, little did I know
I actually had diastasis recti,this ab separation, and the
things that I was doing wereactually making it worse.
(04:45):
And I know it's funny.
I live with a doctor ofphysical therapy and he
suspected that I had thiscondition.
But you know how sometimes youjust don't want to take advice
from your spouse, like you wantto figure it out yourself and I
thought I know how to loseweight, I knew how to do ab
(05:07):
exercises, and so I was justlike determined to do it on my
own.
But it came to a point where Ijust told Jared, look, I need
your help, like what I'm doingisn't working.
And he was like, can I just seeif you have this condition?
And I was like, sure.
And so he had me lay on theground and he showed me how to
(05:29):
check for diastasis recti.
And we actually made a YouTubevideo of this of me that very
day that I came to him and saidI need some help.
And he's like can I film this?
And I'm like, yeah, whatever,you're a YouTuber, that's fine.
And he's like, can I film this?
And I'm like, yeah, whatever,you're a YouTuber, that's fine.
But little did I know.
It was the beginning of theMommy Tell Me Fix program and so
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he checked.
I had a three-finger abseparation and he was like, look
, I know how to do this, I knowhow to fix this, I know how to
treat it.
He's like, but you have to dowhat I say, and sometimes you
don't want to do what yourhusband's telling you to do.
But he wrote down all thethings and demonstrated all the
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exercises that I needed to doand they seemed so simple, they
seemed so easy.
I thought I needed to dohardcore planks and crunches and
mountain climbers until I wasblue in the face and just
sweating profusely.
And he had to remind me overand over again that these are
actually rehab exercises.
It's not a workout.
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And when I kind of made thatshift in my brain, that's when
it made all the difference.
I was actually learning how torehab my body after having four
babies, after all the growingand expanding and stretching and
saggy skin and stretch marks,like I needed to do some things
to take care of my body.
And so he ran me through hisprogram, a protocol that he runs
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all his patients through thatcome in with this diastasis
recti.
And he just kept saying is itokay if I film this?
Is it okay if I film this?
Is it okay if we take picturesof this?
And we kind of filmed myjourney and shared it.
And that's how the Mommy TummyFix was born.
Jared wanted to take physicaltherapy to the masses to be able
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to offer this to moms who maybedon't have time to go to
physical therapy or theirinsurance doesn't cover it or
it's just too expensive.
And so that's what the MommyTell Me Fix program is.
It focuses on safe core rehab,fat burning, cardio and then
simple nutrition, and it'sdifferent than anything else
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that I had ever done, but it waswhat made the changes for me,
and so that's when I got onboard and said, okay, let's do
this, and the Mommy, tummy Fixwas born, so how many years ago
was that that you both startedthis program?
So it was in April 2019.
I started doing the program in2018.
And that's when we started likeplaying around with it.
(08:00):
I had my last kid in 2017, cameto Jared in 2018, ran me
through the program.
I saw all the changes and thenhe's like, okay, I am going to
take this to the world, we aregoing to share this with moms
who need it, and so 2019 is whenwe launched it.
Ciera (08:17):
That's crazy.
So I was trying to remember,because I was back in the day
when you guys were like printedout on paper your program and I
was trying to remember it wasafter my first baby or after my
second baby, and it was after mysecond baby.
Oh my gosh she was born in 2018.
So I probably started in 20192020.
And yeah, I like printed it out.
(08:38):
I still have the papers oh mygosh, still have it.
And then I had moved to yourapp after I had my third baby
and I still do all of yourYouTube videos.
I love it, oh my gosh.
Camille (08:49):
You are the best, and isn't it fascinating Like you
came back to it after your nextbaby?
Ciera (08:55):
Yeah, because you work baby later.
I'm still doing it, I love it.
Camille (09:00):
Yes, it just is learning how to take care of
yourself in a different way.
After having babies, so muchchanges.
We know how much our bodieschange and so, yes, it's a whole
new world.
Ciera (09:13):
And, like you said, I was surprised at how simple it was.
Like I mean, it wasn'tnecessarily easy because, like I
was still rehabbing and like Icould still feel, like my core
was still sore the next day,like oh my gosh yes.
But I was like this is notrocket science, like this is not
complicated.
So isn't it funny, it is, canyou kind of?
(09:34):
I mean you kind of alluded toit already.
But what?
How is this program so muchdifferent than other postpartum
programs that are out there?
Camille (09:42):
Well, if you jump on YouTube and you Google ab
workouts or even ab workouts forwomen, you're going to get some
really intense moves of justsome crazy jackknifes and
jumping planks and these movesthat they do leave your six-pack
muscles feeling sore, becausethat's what it focuses on.
(10:04):
But what the Mommy Tell Me Fixfocuses on is a couple of
different layers of muscles thatyou have in your body, because
we are focusing on the deep core, the entire core, which is made
up of like 29 different musclesor something like all these
different parts that play intoit.
And many times the ab workoutsthat you find just focus on
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those six pack muscles right inthe front.
But we're going to address theentire core.
So a lot of our exercises focuson the transverse abdominus,
that muscle that starts in theback of your spine and wraps all
the way around to the front.
We're going to focus on ourobliques internally and
externally and we're going tohit all of those things along
with your six pack muscles, butwe're going to work it all
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together at the same time.
So that's the first is thatdeep core rehab of just teaching
your muscles to come backtogether after being expanded to
new sizes during pregnancy.
And then we take a more holisticapproach when it comes to
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taking care of yourself.
We use low impact cardio or lowimpact workouts and that burn
fat effectively without puttingstress on your body.
Your hormones, after you havekids, are already all over the
place, and then, as we get older, our hormones change again, and
the workouts that we focus onin our program do help you burn
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fat without putting that extrastress on your body, without
causing that spike in cortisolcausing your hormones to go even
more squampus.
And so we couple the rehab withthe fat burning workouts, and
then we just focus on simplenutrition, and what we mean by
that is, instead of telling youokay, you're going to eat this
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many calories and you've got tohit this macro account and
you've got to eat these recipesand nothing else, instead we say
let's just focus on healthychoices.
Today, we're going to eat fiveservings of fruits and veggies.
Get more fruits and veggies in,add an extra one at every meal.
Today we're going to focus ondrinking water.
Drink more water, find ways tocut back on soda and add more
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water to the things you'redrinking.
We just have these habits thatwe learn to incorporate into our
lives, so it's not somerestricting diet, it's not
something where we're focusingon deprivation, but instead
we're just focusing on thesesmall sustainable shifts that
you can incorporate into yourlife, that feel good and that
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feel doable, and we just put anemphasis on small daily choices
really do add up.
And then on top of that, we dotap into the mental health a
little bit, because confidenceisn't just about a flatter belly
, it's not about just losingthat mommy tummy, but it's about
how you feel in your body andhow you feel in your life and
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how you're handling your life.
Ciera (13:04):
Definitely I love all of that because it's so.
There's such like littlechanges, simple changes that you
can make that will have a hugeimpact.
But if you miss one one day,it's not like, oh my gosh, I'm a
failure, like I didn't do it, Ididn't get my 45 minute workout
in, or whatever, like it's notgoing to attack your confidence
or make you feel less aboutyourself, which I love.
Camille (13:25):
Exactly so many moms struggle with that all or
nothing mindset.
Like you just said, I didn'twork out for 45 minutes today,
like I'm thinking what mom has45 minutes that she can dedicate
to just working out?
I'm lucky if I get 10 minutesin the morning and a 10 minute
walk to pick up my elementaryschool kids and a five minute
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walk, as I, you know, go talk tomy neighbor across the street,
like that's real life and that'smom life.
And so I think, when werecognize that you know what
every minute of movement countsand and it doesn't have to look
a certain way and it doesn'thave to be perfect, but it's
just doing the best that you canevery day, and it doesn't have
to look a certain way and itdoesn't have to be perfect, but
it's just doing the best thatyou can every day and that's
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enough.
Ciera (14:10):
Yeah, definitely.
So what are some of the biggestmisconceptions that you find
that moms have about how theirbody should be after pregnancy,
especially when it comes totheir tummy?
Do you find that there's apattern in what people feel like
about their tummy?
Camille (14:25):
Yeah, absolutely.
It's so interesting when womenfirst learn about our program or
start our program because theyare used to these ab workouts
that they have to, that arepretty intense and that they are
doing pretty insane stuff.
And the biggest misconceptionthat not only I had but that
I've seen so many other momshave is that you need to do more
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planks, you need to do morecrunches, you need to burn more
calories in order to lose weightand to look a certain way.
And it's so interesting whenthey join our program and we
kind of just dial it back and wejust say, hey, let's slow
things down, let's do a slower,more intentional exercise with
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our low impact workouts.
Let's do some deep core rehabinstead of crunching our body
away for 500 crunches, like wejust focus more on slowing it
down a little bit and helpingmoms realize that you can do
gentle, intentional exercisesthat are actually going to help,
(15:30):
more than pushing yourself tothese limits that are
unrealistic, especially whenyou're a mom and especially if
you've had a baby in the lastfew years.
Ciera (15:42):
There's a lot of advice out there about like body image
after pregnancy and like.
One of the things that I oftenhear is just be grateful for the
body that made that carriedyour baby.
Be grateful because this bodyis what like gave you your baby,
which is so true.
But do you have any otheradvice that can maybe help moms
with that mindset of likerecognizing their body after
(16:07):
pregnancy and like beinggrateful for it, but like not
damaging their confidence, likeas they're looking at their body
?
Does that make sense?
Camille (16:14):
Absolutely yeah.
And it's so funny because wesay those things and we hear
those things like, oh, I shouldjust focus on what my body did
and be grateful for that.
And it's like, yeah, thatsounds really nice.
But when I'm looking at themirror at my body, and it looks
nothing like it used to afterhaving a baby, or it looks
(16:37):
nothing like the bodies that Isee on social media or the moms
who are just crushing it in thegym, and I'm like what is wrong
with me?
What is wrong with me and forme and I'm just going to speak
for what has really helped meand how I've kind of worked
through it myself I really kindof had to tap in more to the
(17:00):
spiritual side of my body andrecognize that my body is
actually such a gift.
Recognize that my body isactually such a gift and I don't
know what higher power or Godor anything that the listeners
believe in or that you believein, but, like for me, I believe
that my body is a gift from Godand he's given it to me to not
(17:23):
only take care of it but alsolearn how to take care of it,
and it kind of given me thestewardship over this body and
my job is to honor and respectthis gift that I've been given
and that means learning how totake care of it in every season
of my life and, like right now,I'm in my forties, I'm entering
(17:45):
this new season of changinghormones and perimenopause and
all of these things, and I'vehad to change how I take care of
my body again.
And it can be frustratingsometimes because the things
that I was doing even two yearsago, aren't working and I need
to switch it a little bit towork better with my hormones.
(18:06):
And and even that, I'dsometimes get so frustrated
because I'm looking in themirror going, oh, my body is not
what it was two years ago, butthen recognizing what a gift,
what a gift that I have thisbody that works, and what a gift
that I get to learn how to takecare of it, and it kind of
becomes like not an experiment,but almost like, oh, I'm going
(18:30):
to try out some things, I'mgoing to get curious about the
best way to take care of my body, and when I look at it from
that angle, I feel like itcreates more compassion and
kindness instead of criticism.
Ciera (18:43):
Yeah, I love that idea of getting curious about how you
can take care of your body andyou know we are interested with
these bodies and like and noteveryone's body I feel like is
going to be like aone-size-fits-all answer on how
to take care of it.
There's good guidelines, I think, for everyone.
But yeah, like you said, yourbody two years ago isn't the
(19:05):
same as your body now and sojust treating it as more of like
a um, like, like you said, notan experiment, but kind of an
experiment, like you know, justtrying to figure things out, I
really like that mindset.
That's really good.
So if a mom listening feelslike they're discouraged about
their body, their confidence,what's one thing that they could
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do today that would help themto feel better about themselves?
Camille (19:31):
Something that we always say in our Mommy Tell Me
Fix program.
We've got a community in theapp and, as more moms have
joined, we've been having somegood discussions lately.
But one of my favorite thingsis to give yourself grace.
As moms, we are so good atdishing out grace to everyone
(19:54):
around us to our kids, to ourspouse, to our partner, to our
friends, to the neighbors.
We just we cut everybody abreak and we give them grace,
and we're just naturally so goodat that as moms, except when it
comes to ourselves.
And so we've been having adiscussion lately about what
(20:17):
does it look like to giveyourself grace as a mom?
What does it look like to giveyourself grace as a woman, as a
daughter, as a wife, and it'sreally interesting.
We have one mom in our programwho just finished some cancer
treatments and going throughthat and it was really
interesting because she she didthe program, she lost weight,
(20:41):
she was able to heal herdiastasis recti and she was like
just crushing her life.
And then she was diagnosed withbreast cancer and she stayed in
the program because she's likeI just I need you guys around me
like cheering me on.
She was so tired from doingchemotherapy and she didn't have
the energy to do things thatshe used to do.
And she her eating kind of fell, fell off.
(21:03):
She was like I was just eatingwhatever sounded good and
usually it wasn't things thatwere good for me and, um, she
wasn't able to work out like sheused to.
She used to go on walks and shehad gotten to the point where
she was walking five miles a dayand now she couldn't even have
enough energy to get out thedoor.
And um, she said I was lookingin the mirror at myself and as I
(21:24):
was going through these cancertreatments, and I was just so
disappointed.
And then she's like, and then itpopped into my head Give
yourself grace, give yourselfgrace in this season, give
yourself understanding and lovelike you do for everybody else.
And it just shifted in her mindlike, oh, this is what we talk
(21:44):
about.
This is a season where I reallyhave to give myself some grace
and recognize it's not alwaysgoing to be like this, but for
the time that it is, I'm justgoing to be really kind to
myself and I think if you canstart to have that conversation
with yourself and it's reallyhard if you are especially not
talking very kindly to yourselfto suddenly start talking kindly
(22:07):
, but it's baby steps.
Maybe say something that'sneutral to yourself in the
middle and work towards sayingsomething kind.
Work towards being able to giveyourself that grace that you
need and deserve from yourself.
Ciera (22:21):
That's beautiful and I love that you have that
community within your app.
How amazing is that that she isgoing through this hard thing in
her life and she has this bandof women supporting her like
that.
So I saw a reel today and I wishI could remember who posted it,
but it was something like thatabout giving yourself grace,
like it was like a clip of her Ithink she was like crying on
(22:46):
the couch or something and thenthere was another clip of her at
the gym, like totally crushingit.
Then there was another clip ofher playing with her kids and
then another clip of her doingsomething else and they were
like highs and lows kinds ofyeah, but it said that this is
me doing my best, and sobasically the point of it was
like your best can be like whenyou're on the couch, like, and
(23:07):
you don't can't get like.
When you're on the couch, likeand you don't can't get up, like
you're just having a hard day,that's your best for that day.
But then you're like with yourkids and you're playing and
you're like totally mom mode,like 100%, that's also your best
.
Just whatever your day lookslike can be your best, which I
thought was like reallybeautiful, and so it goes along
with what you were saying aboutgrace.
Camille (23:27):
So it goes along with what you were saying about grace
.
I love that because I thinksometimes we expect that we have
to be at that crazy high levelall the time, that that is the
best if we can be up at the top.
But that's not realistic.
That's not how our bodies aremade.
I mean, we literally have a28-day cycle highs and lows and
(23:51):
it's built into who we are aswomen Like we are going to have
different bests for every day.
And when you start to recognizethat and understand that and
also give yourself grace, thaton those days where it's a couch
day and I need to, I need torest and I need some downtime,
(24:11):
perfect, that's your best fortoday and that's enough.
Ciera (24:14):
I love that.
Everyone has their own versionof confidence and their own idea
of what confidently beautifulis.
What is your idea of what aconfidently beautiful woman?
Camille (24:24):
is.
You know, it's so fascinating.
I always thought if my bodylooked a certain way, that I
would be confident, and if I wasa certain number on the scale,
that I would be not onlyconfident but happy too.
And it's so funny because I'vehad seasons in my life where I
(24:48):
have gotten down to a certainsize or certain weight and my
body's looked a certain way andI can tell you that is not where
confidence comes from.
It's also not where happinesscomes from.
In fact, it was at some of thelowest points in my life and
also the least confident pointsin my life and also the least
(25:09):
confident points in my life.
And so it was so interestingbecause I remember one day there
was a season in my life where Ifollowed some crazy diet trends
to lose weight really fast,really drastically.
This was long before the mommytummy fix and, like, I loved the
size that I was at, but theside effects were horrendous.
(25:32):
I was so tired, I had acne allover my face because I was not
getting nutrients.
I was dehydrated because I wasnot drinking water, because I
thought, well, that's waterweight.
That's how messed up I was.
And honestly, I was depressed.
And even though I was a certainsize, I still didn't feel like
(25:53):
I looked good and it just Istill remember one day thinking,
huh, I thought this is whatwould make me feel confident, I
thought this is what would makeme feel happy and and it wasn't.
And it was this realization ofthat's not where confidence
comes from.
It's not a body size, and soI've learned.
It's a feeling for me, afeeling of strength, a feeling
(26:18):
of being capable.
I had no energy when I wasn'teating and fueling my body in a
way that it was doing moredamage than good, and I didn't
feel comfortable in my own skin.
My world revolved around caloriecounting and the mindset issues
with that, and I exercised onlybecause I almost saw it as a
(26:42):
punishment for how my bodylooked and how it was, and
because I didn't like it and Ijust had to make those big
shifts and I had to learn thatconfidence really did come from
appreciating what my body coulddo at any size and learning to
see my body as a gift at anysize.
(27:03):
I love that I can keep up withmy kids.
I love that I can carry my kidseven as my kids are getting
bigger, like I'm strong.
I'm a strong mom and I lovethat I'm taking care of my body
in a way that gives me strengthand energy to do that.
I love that because I'm fuelingmy body.
In a way my body loves thatacne cleared up.
(27:24):
No mom wants acne, like that'ssupposed to be a teenager
problem, but it was a very realthing for me because I wasn't
fueling my body.
And, anyways, when I learnedhow to take care of my body and
show up for myself in that way,that's where my confidence came
from and that's where my bodyconfidence really took off.
Ciera (27:43):
Thank you for sharing that.
I think a lot of listeners canprobably relate to that.
Camille (27:48):
I know so many moms are stuck in that place because I
was there and I was there for solong, and I feel like that's
why I have to share the thingsthat I share so that hopefully I
can help some mom get out ofthat same abyss that I was in.
Ciera (28:03):
Yeah, yeah.
What is one thing you try anddo every day to help your
confidence grow, even just alittle bit?
Camille (28:11):
I have learned the thing that I need to do for me
every day is show up for myselfsomehow some way every day, and
that means some time away frommy kids just doing something for
me, time away from my kids justdoing something for me.
(28:33):
And it sounds so silly and itsounds so simple, but it can be
just a five minute walk.
When my kids were really littleand Jared was in physical
therapy school, he would be goneall day and he'd get home so
late at night and I'd alreadyhave the kids fed and in bed and
he would come through the doorand be like I'm home and I'm
like great, I'm leaving to go ona walk because I need some me
(28:56):
time.
And that was even like 15 yearsago, let's see, yeah, 15 years
ago, more than that, like 17years ago, and I've been doing
it ever since.
I just need a couple of minutesjust for me to reconnect with me
and it just helps in everyaspect of my life and helps me
(29:19):
to show up as a better wife anda better mom.
And I can't always get away fora walk, but I can always find
five minutes alone in my closetto read a book for five pages of
a book.
Or I've even hid in thebathroom before and locked the
door and just read a book on myphone even I took it in there
(29:43):
with me.
Just little things that I do tojust kind of catch my breath,
reconnect with myself, so I cango back out and face the world
and take it all on.
And that's what I do for myselfevery day.
Ciera (29:59):
I love that.
That's good advice, thank you.
It's so fun to hear whateveryone does.
Everyone's is different and Ilove it so fun.
Well, can you give?
Are there some?
You have your YouTube channel,but are there any resources that
listeners can go and find moreabout you and learn more about
how they can improve their bodyconfidence and feel good about
(30:20):
themselves?
Camille (30:21):
and feel good about themselves, absolutely.
So our YouTube channel is whereyou will find the workouts and
things that introduce you todiastasis recti, even like tests
that you can do on yourself inlike 60 seconds to check and see
if you have this ab separationcondition.
And what's fascinating, too, isyou might not even have an
(30:44):
actual muscle ab muscleseparation but you just might
have a weak core, and theseexercises, these rehab exercises
, will also help with that.
So not only like a pooch or abelly that remains after having
a baby, but any type of coreweakness.
These are the rehab exercisesyou do.
So you'll find them on ourYouTube channel.
(31:05):
Also, moms that have low backpain that's a sign of diastasis
recti or a weak core.
So these exercises will alsohelp you as well.
Um, and then if you go over toour website, mommy, tell me
fixcom, you can try the app forfree for seven days.
We just barely, we totallyrevamped it.
(31:25):
We relaunched it about six orseven weeks ago.
We just made it more beautiful,more easy to use, added more
workouts, more recipes, morecoaching calls, just more
resources to help you on yourjourney, and so that's fun.
Um, so you can try it free forseven days.
(31:47):
Mommy tell me fixcom.
Also on the mommy tell me fixcom, there's a free 14 day core
challenge.
If you want to kind of try itout, see what this mommy tell me
fix program would be like.
It's just the core rehabexercises so you can do that for
two weeks.
We also have, um uh, 10,000steps a day challenge.
(32:07):
That's free.
That just helps you get into aroutine of moving and you can
get those steps while you vacuumand while you mop and while you
clean up your house like momlife.
That's just helping you be moreintentional about moving
throughout the day.
So there's a lot of differentthings going on.
Plus, you can find us onInstagram, tiktok, facebook and
(32:28):
then we also have a podcast aswell.
Ciera (32:31):
I love that what's?
Camille (32:31):
your podcast called.
So it's called Moms on the Riseand it kind of leans into more
of the mental side, just takingcare of yourself as a mom, and
so we've got you covered betweenthe physical and the mental,
and we tap into the emotionalstuff with our coaching.
So we've got you covered.
I love it.
(32:52):
You need all of it.
Ciera (32:53):
So I know all of it.
Camille (32:55):
We deserve all of it.
Yes.
Ciera (32:57):
Well, it sounds like you have so many free resources.
I know that even the paid stuffis like under, like you don't
charge enough for what, for whatyou get, like it is so good, so
I will include my affiliatecode in the show notes.
But yes, it can.
All of your stuff is amazing,so I'll include links to
(33:17):
everything, the freebies and allof that that you listeners can
go and grab.
Can you quickly, just before wego, can you just tell us about
your 75 Rise program?
Camille (33:27):
Yes, so this is something that I've shared on
the podcast because, like I said, it kind of leans into more of
the mental side of things.
But 75 Rise came from the ideaof 75 hard.
Have you seen that challengearound TikTok and where for 75
days you follow this protocolperfectly and then if you mess
(33:52):
up, you have to start your 75days over?
And so many people were doingit online and they were seeing
success.
But that was because it was sostrict and it was so time
consuming and it was all lifeencompassing, like it took over
your life for 75 days, and itwas a really good like mental
(34:14):
exercise.
I would say like how well canyou stick to something perfectly
?
But what they were finding isthat the mental side effects of
that were so damaging,especially for moms, because
moms their lives vary from dayto day.
You might have a sick kid, youmight have to run your kid to
(34:38):
run their paper to them atschool, you might have an extra
carpool thrown in that you can'tdo that second workout of the
day because, yes, there are twoworkouts required every day in
75 hard.
It's crazy, right, it's notrealistic.
Ciera (34:52):
Sometimes I can't get five minutes, so yeah.
Camille (34:54):
And you have to do two 45 minute workouts spread
throughout your day, like it'sjust not happening.
And what's so funny is, when Isaw this challenge arise, I
thought, oh, I am doing that.
That is going to be a reallygood way to test my ability to
commit.
And I did it for like two daysand then one of my kids got sick
, and then we went on vacationand then I had a busy time at
(35:19):
work, a busy season at work, andI was like, okay, never mind,
this is not working for me.
And I started it so many timesand quit so many times and I
thought there's got to be adifferent way, because I like
the habits that it teaches youto incorporate, but I didn't
like that it required perfection, because that's not realistic
and it teaches you that it hasto be everything or nothing at
(35:42):
all.
And so I thought there's got tobe a better way to do it and I
thought what if I just startwith one habit and for one week
I focus on this one habit, andthen, by week two, I'll add on a
second habit, and then, weekthree, I'll add on another
little habit?
And these habits were little.
And then I got to week four andit was a crazy week and I was
(36:03):
like, okay, I'm not addinganything on.
And I was talking to atherapist about this and she was
like, actually, that is areally good way to stay
committed to something is totake weeks where you just kind
of stay where you're at, catchyour breath and then keep going
on.
And so I worked those into my75 days of working on these
(36:24):
habits.
Anyways, by the end of 75 days Ihad incorporated these eight
habits into my life and I wascrushing them every day because
I did it at a cadence that feltright to me and I did it at a
cadence that worked for my momlife and also didn't punish me
if I didn't do it perfectly.
(36:44):
And so I was talking to some ofmy colleagues about it and I
was telling them, like this iswhat I've been doing.
They're like, oh my gosh, Ineed that.
I need you to like outline whatyou did, because that's what I
need in my life to kind ofjumpstart taking care of myself
and jumpstart working habitsback into my life.
So put it all together, sharedthe trackers that I made and the
(37:07):
exact habits that I used over75 days to get where I needed to
be.
And what's so fascinating is Igot the same outcome that people
get from 75 hard.
By the end, I was doing a lot ofthings every day to show up for
myself.
I had lost the weight that Iwas hoping to lose.
I was feeling really good in mybody, but I did it in a way
(37:29):
that didn't punish me when Imessed up, that didn't require
perfection and it just felt good.
So that's what 75 Rises is.
I walk you through this 75-dayprotocol of how to incorporate
habits at a cadence and a speedthat feels good to you, and
healthy habits, um.
(37:49):
I kind of use some generic onesthat are a good framework that
everyone could put into theirlives.
But you can.
It's interchangeable.
You can swap out the habits ifyou want to, or add your own Um,
and I explained that in theprogram, but yeah, 75 rise, it's
(38:13):
just $27 and it walks youthrough the 75 days.
So that's awesome.
And is that within your app oris it something separate?
That one is separate, butthat's a good idea I didn't even
think about.
I could put that in the app.
Ciera (38:22):
Something to think about.
Maybe someday it will be in theapp then.
Yeah, I didn't even think aboutthat.
Well, cool.
Well, thank you so much,Camille.
I am so glad that we got tohave this conversation.
I think it's.
I think it's really good fornot just moms who are recently
postpartum, but like maybe 15years postpartum, Like you know.
I think it's totally good foranyone who wants to just improve
(38:43):
their core.
I'm sure it's actually probablybeneficial for men too, I would
imagine Absolutely.
Camille (38:50):
We have had.
We've actually had over a dozendad success stories, because
the anatomy is the same.
Those core muscles well,obviously, the anatomy of the
core, not the entire body,anatomy of the core is the same
and you will.
Muscles obviously anatomy ofthe core, not the entire body.
Anatomy of the core is the sameand you will.
You engage those muscles in thesame way.
And while dads maybe aren'tpregnant or have, you know,
(39:13):
growing a baby, they alsostruggle with a tight core and,
like I said a lot of times, it'score weakness and so by
focusing on deep core rehabexercises, it tightens your
tummy right up.
And I was going to tell you too,the oldest woman who has done
our Mommy Tummy Fix program was74.
(39:35):
And she was watching.
She just became a great grandma, she just had her first great
grandchild and she saw us onlineand she was like, oh my gosh, I
wonder if this is why my wholelife I have always felt like
I've had this little pooch, andso, sure enough, she laid on the
(39:57):
ground, she did the way toself-check for diastasis recti
that Jared shows you on ourYouTube channel, and she had
like a three finger gap allthese years after having a baby,
and so she joined our app anddid the exercises and she like,
reached out.
One day.
She's like.
I am so excited to tell you Ihave closed my gap.
(40:18):
At 74 years old, I have healedmy ab separation.
So there are grandmas doingthis, strengthening their core,
healing those muscles, even allthese years later.
It's it's pretty awesome.
Ciera (40:32):
That's so cool.
Okay so, grandmas, moms,everyone, everyone listening,
this is for you, it's foreverybody.
Oh, I love it.
Well, thank you so much,Camille.
It's been a great time talkingto you.
Camille (40:43):
No, thank you for having me.
You are delightful and I hadsuch a good time.
Ciera (40:48):
Thanks for listening.
Connect with me on Instagram @confidently beautiful podcast
and share this episode withsomeone in your life who could
use a little reminder of justhow amazing they already are.
Stay confidently beautiful.
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