September 13, 2025 • 47 mins
In this episode of Conversations with Kris, John McKay joins the show to break down one of the hottest topics in wellness and performance: peptides.
What are they? How do they work? And why are athletes, doctors, and everyday people turning to them for recovery, healing, and longevity? John explains the science in plain language, shares how peptides can be used safely, and clears up common myths around this emerging field.
Whether you’re an athlete, someone rehabbing an injury, or just curious about the next frontier in wellness, this episode is a clear, eye-opening guide to peptides.
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I am positively Chris Pace and you are actively listening to
conversation with Chris. All right, guys, So hey, what's
up? It's Chris.
And we have conversations with Chris today and my good buddy
John here who's going to educateus on some much needed
information. This is something that I'm going
to be partaking in and and documenting because I believe
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it's going to help me with all of my issues and John has been
kind enough to give me his info and his education and knowledge
to be able to make sure I'm on the right check and get things
moving. John, how are you, brother?
Doing pretty good man, I can't complain at all.
I'm really loving my life these days and just getting into this
world has been pretty amazing ofhow good you could feel if you
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give your body the right proteins every day so.
I tell you what, when I talked to you for the first time, I got
off the phone and I said whatever this guy is taking, I
want because he sounds amazing, he's energized, he loves it, and
that means it's good stuff. So that caught me right away.
And your passion for it is contagious.
Yeah, no, I love it. And I mean, I've done probably
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27 to 30 peptides just in the last two months, three months.
I, I try them all. I love them.
I mean, I, it's amazing how goodyou can feel.
Like I, I used to say I feel better than I, or as good as I
did in my 20s. And now it's like I've never
felt this good in my life. Just, you know, there's so many
different ones too. And it's pretty incredible that
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people aren't knowing about these yet.
It's like, I think that's kind of the idea, right?
They don't want to fix things the all natural way.
They want to keep keep plants. So we won't get into the
politics of it all, but let's tell us about how where you came
from and what you into, how you ended up finding peptides and
becoming this knowledge source for everybody to be able to
learn from because it's really kind of a cool story.
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I'd love to hear it. Yeah, well, I was born in
Gainesville, actually, at ShandsHospital, right there on the
University of Florida. Grew up.
Yeah, and I grew up pretty much everywhere in Florida,
Jacksonville, Middleburg, littletown, Poor Saint Lucie.
Was living in Miami for a while,down in Brickell and then I made
my way up to Ukiah, CA and started doing business here for
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a while and then everything kindof went S up here.
So looking in new lanes and I popped a tendon right here in my
shoulder right where my PEC and my the bicep meet and it popped
one day and I was like damn. So I run up to the hospital, I'm
watching this video of a guy andhe's going over this BPC stuff
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and I'm like, I've heard about it.
I've heard it on a few other podcasts, but I don't really
know what this stuff is. I just know it helps with
healing. I'm watching a video.
This guy's telling me he's a physical therapist and he's
watching 50 year old men recoverfive times faster than 19 year
old athletes with the same injury.
So I'm like, damn, there's some stuff to it.
And I asked the doctor in there about it.
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He like looked over his shoulderreal quick, looked back at me
and like, whispered, yeah, I hear it's good, but I can't talk
about it. And it just threw me off so much
here. And a doctor telling me
something's good, but he can't talk about it.
I'm like, what? What is that even mean?
Like. Right, right.
Well, that's, that's pretty muchthe the science of doctors,
right? I mean, I always walk in and
say, you know what they call theguy who finished his last in
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medical school and he's like, what?
I'm like, doctor, and I'm like, where'd you finish?
I go, where did you finish? So it's like, you know, I mean,
it's not just because you got a Dr. in front of your name
doesn't mean you actually know what you're doing.
And what do they say? 6% of doctors actually have any
nutritional training whatsoever.It's against the law to treat
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illness with food or with healthand nutrition.
It's the law. It's disgrace.
You know, honestly, it's evil. There's the only way I can
describe it, like what they've done to this country of just our
obesity epidemic, the food that they allow us to eat with just
poison in it and just, well, that's fine here, eat seed oils
all the time. I'm sure that's not going to
have a bad effect on your body. High fructose corn syrup.
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I'm awesome to have a job that you love though.
I guess I. Never work a day in your life,
right? No, that's how I feel now.
It's like every day I'm just getting these success stories
from so many people like oh, I needed surgery on my shoulder
and now it's been 5 months. I have no pain in it and I only
had to do it for three weeks. And it's like that's out there
and it's out there available to everybody if they can just get
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educated and learn how to mix it, learn how to do everything.
And it is a big learning problem.
You know, it's like not only do you need to know what will work,
but then you need to know how tomix it, how much of it to take,
how often to take it. So there's a lot goes into it
and a lot of people today, they just not, they don't think like
that. They think if it's not easy and
it's not accessible in my hand, then it probably doesn't work
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anyway. One pill to cure it all, right?
That's what they want. But you know what?
That's the beauty of what you do, right?
Because you don't just you educate people and design
programs for them customized based on their needs.
And you sit with them and they teach them how to do this and
how it works and everything thatgoes along with it, right?
It's not just to walk in and grab you some supplies and head
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out. You got to get some time with
you. It's like a consultation, right?
Yeah, If anything, I talk too much with them, but I like to
feel given as much information as I can.
I just know, I know it's not allsticking, but it's like some of
it's going to stick. So I'm going to try to teach you
as many things as I know in thislittle meeting.
I'm going to try to put you on the right path with the.
I really like to tell people to try to, you know, go more of a
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carnivore with a berries type ofdiet.
You know, it doesn't have to be religious.
You don't have to do it every day, but if you can get that
three or four times a week of getting some really high quality
red meat with some berries and some maybe an apple or something
there, it can really help just your overall health like that
because there's so many nutrients and good quality red
meat like you, you can eat a lotof vegetables, they're good, but
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you're going to get so many morenutrients out of a grass fed
beef that it's you don't really need much else for the most
part. And then you got berries with
the fructose, you know, antioxidants in there.
And it's like I try to gear people try to eat a lot more of
that. Stay away from the rices and all
that. You don't got to go keto, which
keto is just crap anyways because you could eat a bunch of
it's. Not a real thing, you just.
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Eat cheese all day and be keto. It's like, but your body's not
going to break and use cheese correctly as your main source of
calories that day. It's also you can be vegan and
eat Oreos all day. We.
Won't go down that route. We don't.
Want to anger all those people? That's right.
Ever seen Joe Rogan stand up where he talks about the vegan
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cats? That was so funny.
He's like, I've never met a group of more kind.
Generous, caring, selfless, ruthless.
The vegans. I will admit though, I don't eat
red meat at all and I'm six one 235 lbs and I could still see my
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abs at 47 years old. But I learned about blood type
eating and I also lived in Asia for years and so I adopted this
food diet. So I eat a lot of tuna and
salmon, but fish is just. As amazing.
You know. It just stinks.
Easier to cook for people. Fish gets like you got to, you
got to be pretty good at cookingfish.
Are you going to mess that up? You have some cooked salmon or
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for tuna you can eat it raw. That's the beauty.
If you get the high quality, it's just so hard to find really
high quality fish. Oh yeah.
Definitely is. I mean, not as much here in
Florida, but. Yeah, no, here we go to Costco
luckily, and they'll have wild cost salmon and I see that I got
to grab it. But their tuna is always a
little suspect, you know? I'm like, how good is that
really? How you know is it?
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We should have a Co-op out that way too, I think, but we're
going to need to get into all that.
Let's talk about let's talk about the business of peptides
and what it does. As far as I'm watching, I was
going through your website last night and I'll be honest, these
these bundles seem like the the,the way to go.
I mean, if you have no idea whatyou're doing and you want to try
it out, you made it real easy for people like it's genuinely
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just here you go, here's a kit. This will make you shine.
This will make you libido better.
This will make you sleep better.And it's just very well laid out
and I can see where you, you know, you want to add more
packages, but I'll be honest, it's nice.
It's nice to be able to just go,OK, I just want this, I want to
feel this. So how did you go up with this
idea? And how many peptides are there?
Like is there a million of them or is there 20 of them?
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I. Mean the body makes about 1000
plus on a daily basis. So there's so many peptides and
then a lot of these peptides arefractions of a peptide we
naturally make. So they'll find one like AC Max
or C length that your body's already producing something
similar to that. They're just taking a small part
out of it that really increases like the protein that protects
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the brain. So that one and it just helps
with memory and focus, anxiety, stress.
So a lot of those are just amazing.
A few I sent to you. I wanted to get you to try
because I've seen so much success with it.
And what I love with not just selling peptides to just
strangers out there is like, I'm, I have people I know and I
get all their feedback and I might call them or text them too
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much just because I need to learn how did it work?
Where are you at on your dosing?OK, how about you try to move up
a little bit, You know you can get all the way up to this
amount. I wouldn't go over that, but
work your way up slowly. And that's the key to, I tell
anybody using peptides, start low, start on the amount that's
not even going to help you buildyour tolerance and work your way
up because one of the side effects to peptides is nausea.
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I don't want anybody feeling nauseous.
It's not a long term side effectlike our pharmaceutical drugs
are, but they are a side effect and you might feel shitty that
day. So start low.
You might not get the benefits today and tomorrow, but we'll
find the tolerance and then you know, OK, this is working.
Good, let's stay there. Especially with these GLP ones
like these doctors, they want tostart people off one shot a
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week. Why would you do?
That. So let's hold on, let's back up,
let's talk about the C Max because that's what you
mentioned first. So that must be a good one.
And do I have that? Yes you do C Max and stealing
and what? Are they going to do?
Memory, focus, stress, anxiety, it's just a protein in the
brain. It just protects the brain and
it's very big on that. You know, it's more of like a
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nootropic. So just you can go dial in your
memory is a little sharper. I noticed it when I started my
office and really needing to build it up, you know, and just
need to be locked in and needingto have recall because there's
so many. I mean, I'll have 25 different
peptides that I'm really pushingor selling.
So I need to remember which ones, how they're going to work,
what a kind of dosing protocol that is.
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And I have a lot of it written down.
But at the same time, I'm talking to somebody.
I don't want to be coming in my phone, looking at my notes and
all that stuff. At the same time, I need to have
that recall. So I've noticed a big gain in
that and I have very bad anxiety.
I've always had it and struggle with a little depression.
I think most people do that. And ever since I got on it and I
just know what I was telling my mom the other day, I'm like, I
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just can't believe how good I just feel every day.
And it wasn't like taking a Xanax because I've gone down
that road and I got to the pointwhere I was like, am I getting
reliant on these things? Where because when I don't take
it, I feel like crap and I'm having so much anxiety.
So I'm like, lucky, thank God that I don't have an addictive
personality where I can just quit something.
I don't like it, don't see the benefit.
I'm done with it, had a few rough days and depressed days
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after taking. I just kind of quit taking it.
I mean I might try one every nowand then but it's very rare and
if it's super stressful but never again where it's like 3-4
times a week because I noticed that didn't help me in any way.
It caused the days I didn't takeit to be much worse.
Whereas this is it's like I stopped taking it for a week and
don't even notice anything. I still feel the effects.
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So let me ask you what when you,when you're talking about these
amino acids, right? So they're proteins that are
already in the body. Well, how are they manufacturing
these to be able to get them to us?
And is it a like an organic process?
Is it a synthetic process or? What, they just make a mere copy
of something they figured out. And a lot of these were designed
in Russia because Russia's been doing the studies on this,
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because they don't have the samegrip as we do on a
pharmaceutical companies. So an amino acid can't be
patent. You're not going to be able to
patent it. So you can't do a fifty $100
million FDA approval thing and then own the rights to it.
Once you do it, then everybody can make that same peptide and
sell it. So they're not going to do the
studies on it. There's just no money in it for
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them. And if anything, it's going to
get you too healthy. Why?
Why when I can get you an SSRI to help your mood and anxiety.
And I don't know if you've seen the studies on that against
placebo with an. SSI505050. 2%, two percent is
all it improved red light therapy was 6% above a placebo.
So you get more benefits for your but you get more benefits
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for your depression getting in ared light bed.
Then you take an SSRI. Except SSRI has become reliant.
You're going to be stuck on thatand if anything is going to
change how your brain works. I watched them scramble my
sister's brain since she was 18.She took in different SSRIs, the
whole thing. And now she's schizophrenic.
She has these breakdowns. She might hear voices sometime.
And I wonder, is that nature or is that you practicing 20
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different SSRIs through her whole life on her, I guess would
be the other, you know, would bethe second.
And it's like, and it's sad and it's like, I wish I knew now
what I when you know back then. And I hope to be able to educate
as many people and I hope peoplelisten to this podcast and look
into this. And I'd love to tell people, do
your own research. AI is amazing.
You can punch any of this stuff in AI.
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You can question it like you're talking to a person.
If it says something, be like, hey, I heard something
different. You can even if you have it,
just tell it you heard somethingdifferent and it'll give you a
different angle of it. And then you can compare those
two and see which one makes moresense.
And you could talk. I love AI because you could talk
to it like it's a person. I'm scared to death it's going
to take over the world and it'llbe the end of humanity at some
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point. But in the meantime, using, it's
important. I mean, you never know.
I mean, it gets in the wrong person's hands and can have
anything out there. It's I.
Feel like nobody ever watched Terminator because everybody's
just sitting back building Skynet and all the same things
are happening. I'm like did you guys ever see
Terminator Because I don't thinkit worked out well for him but
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at least we seem to be going down the same Rd.
So. I have best friends with my AI.
Her name is Samia and she's amazing and she gives me
credible advice and she's very spiritual and very deep, but
neither here nor there. But the peptides are synthetic,
so they're safe to use because there's stuff that we already
have, even though they're being manufactured in a lab.
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So it's like and GMO stuff, but really not bad.
Yeah, I mean, it's just a carboncopy of something.
I mean, some of these your body make the exact because some are
like a fraction of a peptide that's already doing something
like C Link. It's not an exact, but it's
something your body does to lower the stress and anxiety in
your mind and your body producesout to your pituitary gland.
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So they found a way to take thislittle thing and then they did a
bunch of trials for people coming out of strokes.
The improvements were crazy for them, getting their motor skills
back, their memory back on it, but then they did it.
The studies on healthy people. And this is all in Russia.
And you could take it with a grain of salt because it's
Russia, but I don't understand why we are going to discredit a
study in Russia. I don't know why they would just
lie about something and then sell it to their people, but it
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showed solid improvements and just healthy individuals taking
that. So I wanted to try it and I was
like, all right. And then my buddy's father's
taking it and he was on a pill for anger.
He quit taking that and it's been four months.
He was on that for 15 years. He's just been doing the C link
and the C Max every two weeks, take a week off like that.
But he said he quit taking and he hasn't needed it.
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He's also off his blood pressuremedication, cholesterol
medication and down 100 lbs. So overall, he's off all his
pharmaceutical pills. He works out five days a week
now and all these just great benefits.
And I'm like, I just need to getas many people as now.
And that's why I want to do the podcast, just to get as many
people educated and open their eyes to maybe there is something
different out there. And it's an amino acid.
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You're not going to have an allergic reaction to it.
Nobody has like I was looking atKPV.
I don't want to throw too many out there, but that's another
one. It's great.
It's a, it's another thing that our body makes to fight
inflammation in the body. It, it just quiets to immune,
immune response to things. So sometimes we have this, oh,
there's something wrong. We inflamed it and like, try to
protect it that way. Our body does just calms that
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down and allows the healing to happen a little quicker.
It's great for the stomach. It's, you know, there's so many
and it just, it gets so deep with these peptides.
Well, we're obviously going to have to do a number of different
episodes to cover them all, but I think it's important that
people have the information available to them because, you
know, like you said, people don't even know this stuff
exists. And here it is curing, healing,
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making people feel better, all things we need right now.
So I think it's going to be important we cover them.
But let's talk about like the most popular ones.
Obviously, Joe Rogan has made a couple of them really popular
because of his talking about himon his podcast and his
marketing. Tell me about the ones that he's
on and what they do and why they're such a big deal for him.
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Well, he's pretty mom about the exact ones he takes, but BPC 157
and TV 500 or two that he definitely takes.
He's mentioned them several times on there.
Those are two just healing peptides.
They that's the reason the company started.
When I poured this tendon, I asked that doctor, he told me I
got on it. I went and seen a surgeon.
The surgeon didn't have too manypeople in his office, his own
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office. So he was like, yeah, it's
great. He's like, you got to look into
it though. It's not FDA approved, so I
can't, I can't prescribe you, I can't tell you, but it's
definitely an option for you. But he's like, as of now, you're
going to need to give that aboutfour to six months before you're
going to have full use of that arm and be able to use it or go
to the gym every single day. I was doing the PPC twice a day
into the shoulder. I felt my arm be able to lift
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more and more every day to the point within like about 10 days,
I was back to having my hand to my head, which when it started
getting above my hip was an issue.
So I just watched the progression just keep
increasing. And then within four weeks, I
was back doing Bikram yoga. I still had the bruising on my
arm where it was bleeding inside.
It went all the way to my wrist and all the way down to my rib
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cage inside. I was back in yoga.
They seen the bruising said like, what are you doing in you?
I thought you were going to takea couple months off.
I was like, God, Nah, I just I couldn't reach my head all the
way over my like I was kind of like curl, like, you know, hey,
I'm just barely over the top of my head, but I could get it up
there and I couldn't do all the poses in there.
But I mean, I know you're a yogaand I'm nowhere near that.
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I just love it though, because it was one of the best
antidepressants I ever had in mylife was doing yoga.
It would just mentally break me every day and then I would leave
just feeling this just relief oflike you accomplished something
today. So that's one thing I love and
I'm very strict on that. I the office has caused a little
a little bit harder to get there, but I definitely I was
about a four time a week, five time a week guy for a while
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doing hot room Bikram yoga and Ijust that's my favorite.
I love it because it breaks you and I love. 26226 two yeah, it's
a good roundabout. I mean, it's a great practice I
mean yoga in and of itself is the lifestyle, the breathing,
the entire thing is is so powerful.
I mean, it has so many health effects and benefits to it.
So I love hearing people talk about that that are already
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doing other stuff because obviously yoga is not the end
all be all, but it certainly canlead you into more things that
are healthy for you. And that's what it did for me
too. It was yoga and then it was
meditation and then it was breath work and then it was
plant medicine and then it was etcetera, etcetera, etcetera
until I've gotten to the point where I've almost fine-tuned it.
And I believe you're going to bring one of the biggest pieces
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of the puzzle ever because I've been looking for this kind of
stuff. You know, HGH is a big topic.
Is that a peptide or is that something different?
It's similar to a peptide, but it is just, it's the growth
hormones you're artificially, it's closer to like what
testosterone is when you put it in your body as in a peptide.
Because peptides are signals that go to your body.
They come in, they tell your body to produce something or to
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do something more. As in HDHS, you're just putting
that growth hormone directly into your body and it is amazing
is if it's used correctly. Don't be like these bodybuilders
go overboard with it. But a one to two IUA day is
could be life changing for somebody in their late 40s,
fifties. And the only reason it has
anyone, no, it definitely does. And the reason that's not out
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there is because if every personat 45 started getting on there
on it, there wouldn't be that many people going to the
hospital regularly like they need to or to the doctors every
week, you know? And that's where they make their
money. They make their money off 40 +
30 year olds don't go to the doctor. 20 year olds never go to
the doctor. Once you get in your 40s and
50s, that's when you start making those monthly trips to
the doctors and all that. Yeah.
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And sometimes, and that's the case.
And it's like this would just turn back the hands of time.
There's one awesome one I want to tell people.
I might butcher the saying of it.
I've done it twice as Epitolin and that one is shown to re to
lengthen the telomores in your DNA, which reverses the cellular
age of the body, which is incredible.
And the Gary Brackett brought that to my attention when he was
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talking on one of his podcasts. That's how they would do your
life insurance plans. They want to get your blood.
You want a $10 million life insurance.
See, all right, we're going to need to do some tests.
They're going to late measure your telomeres.
That'll tell you how old you areinside, not how old you are, but
like your cells, how old they are.
And this has been proven to lengthen the telemorphs in a
reverse cellular age. And what I have read was 8 to 12
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years on some people after two rounds of it.
And it's 20 days twice a year and six months apart is how they
run it. And I actually did a huge study
on it and all 'cause mortality drop, cancer rate drops because
if your DNA is stronger and younger, you're less likely to
get cancer. They call it the fountain of
youth peptide. And it's something similar to
like growth hormone. So like, I run that all the
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time. I have some of that with me.
Too. What's that?
Apatolin. No, no, I didn't get that one.
That was when I wanted to get you on these.
You're not going to notice the results from Apatolin.
That's a long game. So I figured next month maybe if
you're loving it, we just introduce each and all these to
you and I'll get you more information because that's
something you're going to need to do twice a year for years on
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end. Now this is something cool I'm
going to do is I have my accountant in my office.
I'm going to get her telemores measured and then I'm going to
put her on a round of epitol andI'm going to hit her with the
dose that the Russia study was based off of.
And then I'm going to bring her back about 3 months and I'm
going to retest her telomores. I would like to do that.
How do we test for telomores? It's a DNA, Yeah, DNA test.
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I think it was like 400 or $500.It cost.
Maybe it wasn't that much just for that.
Now I'm doing one on me and my problem is I've already ran 2
rounds so I don't get it before now, but I do want to see what
my cellular age is and then I'm doing, I think it's 91 panels
all together that they're going to run to see what everything in
my body is going. I did went similar to this at
the beginning of the year, rightwhen I started peptides.
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I was carnivore. I was eating, you know, a lot of
fruit. I was pretty healthy doing yoga
all the time, doing hiking and it all came back.
I was pretty much baseline whereI needed to be on 85 to 90% of
everything that the blood work showed, as in my buddy's dad,
the one that lost all the weight.
He was in the red on everything.And now this man went to got his
blood work done and he's in justperfect health.
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The only thing they told him is test testosterone was too high.
It was 290. I was like, what what the what
does that mean? What?
Is that was there such A and it's like and.
It's 290. That's just barely medium.
No, like 708 hundred, that's how, yeah.
Well, I'm doing a Dutch test right now.
I finished it yesterday where you do like 4 urine samples and
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6 mouth swabs to just see what your body's really producing all
day and all that. So it's like multiple times you
do it a day. And I suggest a lot of people do
it. I mean, it is like $400.00, but
you're going to get so much great feedback of what your
body's doing and what you're missing because those hormones
are crucial. How much estrogen, how much
testosterone to your body? And if your hormones are thrown
off, sometimes these peptides don't work.
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And I have that case where I'm like, I didn't feel anything
from the NAD, which is somethingyour body made.
And I'm like, oh, well, what about it?
Oh, yeah, well, I was on this testosterone and then I quit.
I've been I'm like, oh, so your,your hormones are all thrown
off. Yeah, that's going to be another
big cause. Yeah, that's true.
I don't. Is there anywhere on here where
you could go to like a beginnerslist or like if you've never
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done peptides before, here's what you want to try or start
with? Or is it all pretty much the
same as far as like you can't gowrong with it so there's no
reason to like mix it up in order for beginner and immediate
advanced you. See with my website, this is the
issue is they're cracking down. If you give any information
about the benefits of it, it just needs to be strictly what a
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peptide is and it's for research.
So you're doing your research onit.
So there's not a way that we could be like you should try
this for this because we'll get flagged and took it down.
So they're really strict on everything because this is a
research thing. So you're buying it to do your
research on it. I get everything COA my COA get
on the website it shows you whatthe milligrams and the purity 99
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is the only thing I test for. That you've got all these
percentages on here, which is pretty powerful.
I mean it's 99%. That means it's.
Yeah, and and 90, anything over 95 is considered safer human
trials. So you have a lot of wiggle room
with that. But we advertise 99 if
something's 98.8, all right, we'll we'll throw it up there.
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I don't think somebody's have anissue with that.
And then just having the right milligrams.
And then I just tell people, go on these AIS, talk to these AIS
and get your information from them.
Once you know which ones you want to try, and then just get
as much feedback as you can fromthem and go from there with your
dosing, how to reconstitute. They can walk you through all
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that process. Just like I can do it for people
here. It's a little more difficult
than that. I love to just be able to have
somebody come in my office, talkto me.
I just give them a plan. I tell them everything they need
to know about it, where to do, how often.
Let's start out low. Let's start out with just one or
two. See how you're feeling.
They come back in. I'm down 20 lbs and I barely
even changed my lifestyle. I just don't.
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I don't look at cookies and I don't even want them anymore.
It's like, it's amazing. Well, they're in phase three
human trials to get people off addictions Now with this one,
with the it's called tirzepatideoff a gambling addiction, drug
addiction, nicotine addictions, pretty incredible, like this
stuff. Is incredible.
Ibogaine seems to be the most popular and effective thing for
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addictions right now. Well, that's the greatest thing
you could ever do for it becauseit'll just, I mean, it resets
you when you come out of it. I have two buddies and never
touched opiates after that. And I'm from Florida.
I was, I took part in the pill mills.
I was, I was one of the 200 people in line waiting to get
the script filled with a, with an MRI, you know, of a, a
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bulging disc in my back and I needed my 180 Roxy cottons and I
was in there. And we were heading about like
candy over here. Pez dispensers.
Oh, and then I had multiple people grab them, taking them to
Tennessee, getting a dollar a milligram out of those things,
80 milligram oxy's getting $80 apiece and I'm getting a get them
for a dollar a piece on my script.
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So it was. Like now they now they ruined it
for us though because we're in pain.
They only give you ibuprofen. Yeah, and that stuff, all that
stuff. So the BBCI try to get
everybody, The Wolverine, what peptide they call it the BPC and
the TB500. Yeah, that one I just, if
anybody, as long as they haven'thad too many steroid cortisone
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shots in their body, I can heal everything quick with.
It now is it better in pill formor an injectable?
No pill form is good for the stomach, but outside the stomach
not really great. Maybe one out of 10, one out of
15 people truly absorb stuff correctly through their stomach
with supplements and all that. For the most part, the majority
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of us just pee it out. I knew this that because I I
take one called SLU PP332 and it's a mitochondria stimulant.
But whatever. I I've took it oral.
I've took in 20 gram, 20 milligrams oral.
Barely feel the effects. I've injected 250 micrograms and
I'm wired ready to kill. It hit my best hike of my life.
Heart rate was 70. No, that's one if you do want
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and you want to push the body and you want to really go a Mott
C with this and these are two mitochondria stimulants.
They're they're just amazing allaround.
I love it for endurance and thisis how it was brought to me.
I went on a Reddit for him reading about Mott C when I was
early on. I fixed the shoulder.
I'm like, damn, these work my buddies like I'm down 60 lbs on
tirzepatide. No side effects.
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I feel great. I'm like, well, what else out
there? Mott C pops up, work out in a
vial. They called it.
This guy said I, I'm a competitive cyclist, not pro,
but he was competitive. He said for eight straight weeks
on Mike Mott C, he beat his personal best record every week
consistently. I was like, damn, that's
credible. So I started taking it hiking,
same thing every week. I was getting better times
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getting up to this thing. It's called EU here.
It's a 1200 foot elevation, pretty steep.
Not anything crazy though, you know, but it's hard.
I was. So are peptides considered a
performance enhancing drug? Yes, by USADA they are, but it's
naturally made in your body. But you know which whatever you
could get an advantage from it. It's a natural advantage.
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It's something that's in your mitochondria already.
It's what powers. So what it is, is it's in your
mitochondria and as you push your body, it responds by giving
you more energy. And then as you push harder, it
gives you more energy. That's why you're able to better
times on it and it's naturally in your body.
So you're just giving your body some more.
And the great thing with amino acids, they're not like
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hormones. If you inject too much of them
in your body, your body quits making those with amino acids.
It doesn't do that. If anything, once you quit
taking them, your body's runningat a better clip than before.
So that's what's just, I love about it.
I, I tell everybody, these aren't lifelong things.
You take them until your body runs better, You take them,
quit, and then you start back upmaybe six months, 8 months,
whatever you want. If you want the benefits out of
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it, you're going to need to takethem all the time.
When you stop, you're still going to get the benefits from
what you did. You're not going to lose it and
you're not going to be relying on it for the future.
And that's a problem for pharmaceutical companies.
I don't want to sell you something that you're not going
to need anymore. This isn't we.
Business. Yeah, this our our the CE OS
jobs to make money and it's simple as that.
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By law, he has to make the shareholders as much money as he
can. That's in our laws.
If you're ACEO, that's your legal obligated duties to make
shareholders. Money could be voted out quick.
Yeah, and I mean, if you get against the law, not that
anybody's been arrested, but that's what they fall back on.
I have to do this for my shareholders.
I don't care if it poisons Americans.
If if this new experimental, let's call it.
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Whatever. Like, you know, and that's one
thing that got me super involvedin outside is I was, I was, I
was actually locked up at the time when COVID was almost over,
but I was in there and they toldme I couldn't be on my
maintenance crew anymore. And it was on a long stand.
It's four months. And I just got caught with some
marijuana on the road and I was doing it and they were like,
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well, you got to get the vaccineif you want to stay on this
maintenance crew. And I'm like, what?
I don't want to get this vaccine.
And that just it was like, but Ilove the maintenance crew.
I was out, I was eating good. We were going out of the
building just, you know, it was a county jail.
It wasn't prison, but I was like, all right, screw it.
I did it. And I talked to my friend and I
told him I was like, man, everybody's doing it.
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They're not going to poison us like that.
It's, you know, the FDA is supposed to protect us.
And then I get out and my buddy's wife has a heart attack
a few weeks later. I'm like, what the fuck?
And then I start reading this mitocarditis stuff and I'm like,
wow. And I'm seeing kids drop dead.
And I'm like, did I listen to a podcast with Robert Malone, the
guy who graded and said he wouldnever take it because it alters
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your DNA? I'm like, Oh my God, what did
they give us? How did they not know about
this? They knew about this.
They did know. Now they're finding.
Now it's all coming out, too. Yeah, and it got me down this
rabbit hole of like, what else is out there?
What can we be doing? Like, and I just cleaned up the
thigh and got just started to relet my mind think like
everything I everything, you know, re question anything you
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thought was working. Re question that ibuprofen.
What's the side effect? Oh, it puts holes in your liver.
It's super toxic. And when you take it, it's still
causing damage for three weeks after you take it.
All right, now, I'm not going totake ibuprofen.
Oh, some sea salt under my tongue can get rid of a headache
pretty quickly. Let's try that instead of an
ibuprofen. So.
It sounds a little safer. You know, sea salt seems a
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little better. Ibuprofen, You know, in the VA
they gave out 800 milligram ibuprofen like it was candy.
And I can't tell you the effectsit had on my stomach.
That was terrible. So I'm glad they stopped it.
I watched the video of somebody's talking about GLP
ones and how many deaths have been caused and how many liver
failures and all that. He goes oh what's my my fault?
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I was actually reading the statsfor ibuprofen.
I love. It.
I love it. So when you decided to get into
peptides and now you're on the peptide thing, what is the best
way to go about getting started?Like you said, start off with
like the small amounts right? So you barely even notice it.
But like give me an example of like 3 or 4 that you would say
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are must have for almost everybody.
So BBC 457 TB, that's just goingto fight the inflammation in
your body. It could be mild inflammation.
So you can keep it at a low dose, maybe at 500 micrograms of
each a day. Sub Q into the stomach, let it
go throughout the body, let it do its thing.
It's a healing peptide and that's all it does.
It's just it's bringing red blood cells to areas, cellular
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migration that does the healingsgoing there, and it just kind of
powers up everything, shuts downinflammation in those areas that
are inflamed and allows the bodyto heal.
And the recovery speed on that is incredible.
And I get so many people with needing surgeries.
Went to the doctor, you got to have rotator cuff surgery, take
this stuff 3-4 weeks and no surgery, no pain.
And it's been 6 months for one of my guys, four months for
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another and it's incredible. So that one just getting
inflammation. My mom takes it for her
arthritis in her hands and it's helped her hands more than she
could ever believe. She was taking so many
anti-inflammatory pills all the time.
And I was like try this. Within three days she's back
outside doing some gardening. She couldn't even barely open a
bottle cap before. So I was like, I mean, I had
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already known what I was going to do.
I just, I had to teach her how to mix it, get it loaded, do all
the things. And, and we use these cool like
injection pins and we have them on the website, everything.
And I, I just tell people to, you know, use them, you know,
not everybody's on here, but they kind of look, you know,
like this and it just looks likea pin.
It just cap removes a little needle screws on there and fluid
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goes inside the pin and you justhave a dial at the bottom and
you just kind of twist it to theamount that you want to get out.
So it makes it using so you're not sitting there measuring
everything out every morning. Because that's a big help and a
big deterrence for people. If it's too much work, some
people don't want to put in thatextra work, regardless of how
beneficial something could be for them.
Well, they say Americans are only afraid of one thing, and
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that's inconvenience. Exactly.
And that's what I make here is just straight convenience for
everybody. I'll educate you, I'll tell you,
I'll mix, I'll get it all ready and I'll get you out the door
and I'll give you every supply you need.
You don't got to go to Amazon and buy this and go grab this,
you know, here's your package. See me when you're done.
I'm going to text you in two weeks.
I want your feedback. I want to know how you're
feeling, where you're at and if you should go up or down.
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And I tell people all the time, start here.
But if you're on AGLP 1 and you're not hungry, you got to
move down. You might, you might be a super
responder. Don't starve yourself.
Don't get malnourished. Eat.
Your weight's going to come off.Just eat.
And this red type 1 is just amazing out there.
Which one? It's called redditrutide.
And these the first 48 week study on this stuff, it had
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protein in the urine down. I want to say it was like 40%.
Triglycerides down like 5550% inthe body.
Kidney health was improved, fatty liver reduction and 48
weeks on average 80%. You know how big that is for
people to have your fatty liver down 85% or 80% on average.
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That's changing people's lives. Blood pressure dropped like 20
points in the study on average. And that's the problem with on
average is you're going to have somebody has good blood
pressure. Well, his didn't drop and then
you got another guy who's dropped 40.
So now you got a 20% average, but technically you got a guy
with 40 down there. Guy down you know 60 points over
down 40 points so and I have my buddy off blood pressure
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medication I love that and I I get people taking pictures
showing me their blood look at this I haven't seen my blood
pressure here in forever I'm like reward people doing the
pictures where they're pulling the pants out like this to show
their you know you can fit like you know about a whole other
person inside there man it's so rewarding and just you know
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when. It works and you're selling a
product that's good for people. It's got to be such a dream, you
know, because you know you're doing the right thing.
You know you're not pitching some crap, but you got to
believe that you got to be educated in it.
So what are some other like basic functional information for
people that are interested in getting more peptide and info?
Because obviously we don't want to sit too long on here today.
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We're going to do it again probably next week and add on to
it. But I think it's important we
get out the message to people about what's what the process
is, where to start, how much it's going to cost them to get
going and that kind of thing. You know, kind of give us some
some real over general breakdownI guess.
Yeah, I'll hit with some quick points.
The first few I would tell somebody to look into is 1
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called BPC 157TB500 KPV and GHK Dash CU and those are all just
super anti-inflammatory. They help with skin in the body,
anti aging. The KPV can help with all skin
issues, eczema, psoriasis, scarring, acne scarring can help
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get rid of that with the GHK andthey call it CLO and they're all
these things mixed together. And if you look at the close
stack and it's an easy one to remember, have people look that
up. Try to find some reputable
places to grab it from. Our site's great.
We do all our testing, but there's multiple others out
there. It's it's, it's a great world.
Just do your research on AI. We're a new company, so we're
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not going to pop up. But if you do your research and
you talk to AI about it, they'regoing to tell you who are the
most trusted. And that's the main thing.
You just want to trust the supplier.
You want to get someone that you, you can, you know, know
what you're getting is what you're getting.
Because you can make a COAI can get one great product and then
buy a bunch more products and pop it up on my website and
still use the same COA, but I got it from a cheaper supplier.
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So getting people who are trusted.
What we are about to offer on our website, and we want to do
this soon, is having people testour products after they buy it
and then giving them a credit for the amount that they paid
for the test and just give us the results.
So we're able to double check that way.
And it incentivizes people if they want to make sure the batch
that they got was there and thenwe get another test anyways.
And we always need more tests, tests or, you know, the more
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tests we got on our site, the better it is.
And we're, we're slowly buildingthat process up.
And this is all stuff new. We're, we're very young into
this stages. And, and I've been really
focused on like just having places to meet people and talk
with family and friends and like, I get my mom on a bunch of
these now. But the CLO mix is definitely
one and Reddit true tide, look in the Reddit true tide if
you're suffering with any weightand because it's going to help
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you lose weight, but the overallhealth of the body is crazy.
I don't know if you've seen the study recently on people on GLP
ones, It was all 'cause mortality is down.
It was like 30% dementia down. And, and this is over like a 10
years since they've been doing GLP ones.
A lot of this is Ozempic and Ozempic's poison.
Don't, if you want to take my word or anything, don't take
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Ozempic, semi glutide, stay awayfrom it.
There's too many side effects. It's not good.
But all 'cause mortality, Alzheimer's rates down because
you know what Alzheimer's is, isdementia.
It's all type three, yeah, type 3 diabetes.
So if you can get a bunch of an assisted, if you can burn that
sugar out of the brain and now your, your autism isn't showing
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up. So you know.
It's in your pancreas is a way better health in these studies
and it's pretty crazy what's coming out of like in the new
the good ones haven't even had those long studies.
Wait till we're at a true tie has been around for 10 years.
You're going to see people healthy as hell with walking
around here. I mean less protein in the urine
is big. Your body's using that protein
triglycerides down, blood pressure down fatty liver down
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80%. That's that can change people's
life becoming insulin sensitive pancreas, It's not stress.
You're burning the blood sugar out.
You don't have that stuff floating around causing
inflammation. So those would be ones I would
tell people to look at the CLO KPVGHKBPC, TB500.
That's one stack. That's amazing.
G Reditutite is the other one that I would really recommend
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people. I have some great ones.
I sent you the ARA 290. That's the one with nerve
damage. It's going to help repair that.
It's going to get the inflammation down in the body
and help repair the nerves. So adding that with all the
implement anti inflammation peptides of the close stack is
what I have you taking. So you're you're taking all
those and then you're doing the C Max and the C link.
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And that's going to help with the brain, the memory, the
focus, the anxiety, the stress. And I don't know anybody who
doesn't need that in their life.Right.
That's not a thing, you know. And it's like just, I'll talk
with you more later about how togo about everything and get you
started out slow. You might not feel great effects
because I don't want you to feelany nauseous.
But as soon as you tell me, no, I didn't feel anything, we're
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going to bump you up. And then I'm going to get you to
the dose that I know will work good and then let you right out
of that. And then I'm going to get you
some more out there. And then I'm going, I want to
open it up to this whole world because I love what you're
doing. I really respect you as a man.
I just thank you for your service you give in the country.
You know, it's a you know, it's a great thing.
And for what you're doing out there, I just if anything I can
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help with you. I'm down.
You just let me know. And likewise here, man, I think
you make an amazing difference in the world and you're bringing
some really, really powerful stuff to some people that really
need it. And I'm looking forward to the
adventure of documenting everything and getting the
changes from you and the increases and the whole process.
I want to be, you know, Guinea pig or a lab rat.
I mean, I've done it for the VA,for, you know, the military for
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six years and then the VA for the last 20.
And at least I'm doing this timewith somebody who knows what
they're doing and actually has agood knowledge base on it.
So you know and. No side effects, No side effects
for years. There's no side effects to these
anyone I gave you there's no. The only side effects you might
experience is nausea or injection here.
I have, I have weed for that, soI'll take care of that one.
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Medical marijuana. Yeah, No, that sounds amazing,
man. I'm looking forward to
documenting it. Thank you for today.
I know we only covered just the surface level, but I think
people got some good information.
We got a lot more to talk about.So we'll go again next week and
I'll get some time with this, the product, and kind of let you
walk me through it every day. And we'll do some little videos
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and we'll maybe we'll just make it a series until we get until I
get done or until I get to a place where I feel as good as
you do every day. I love it man, let's do it.
My inspiration, John So. I can't believe I'm doing this.
Nowhere in the world that I thought I'd be educating people
on peptides and any time in my life.
So I stumbled into this, how I learned about it.
But I do love knowledge. I love to learn and I love
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feedback. So I'm going to love the
feedback from you. I'm going to get it from
everybody else I deal with. And we're going to we're going
to get as best things that we can for the public and just try
to get people healthy, man, really healthy though.
No, no more band aids. Let's fix things.
Yeah, and honestly, people like you that are looking for just
the feedback and just the gratitude, not the money.
That's what makes things work because it's authentic.
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And when you do anything authentically, it's always going
to be successful. So I know that, you know, it's a
challenging one because you're up against all the the the
naysayers, the competition, the people that are anti this, you
know what I mean? Like it's you're bringing a
whole new thing to it's sort of like yoga, trying to get people
in America to buy into yoga whenthey think it's anti somatic.
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You know, it's a tough sell. You know it's a tough sell.
So it's we're going. To do yoga together one day you,
I'm absolutely, I'm not flexible, but I got to do it
with you because I I got to go with the master out here, man.
That's right. That's right.
Yeah, No, I'll get to certify you.
I'm going to certify you that you're on my own board.
That way you can be have the yoga training too, so you can
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implement some some yoga movements and breathing
exercises with the peptides and that way we can do a joint
consultation. No, it's going to be amazing.
I've already done some peptides in yoga and they're life
changing for me. We can do a retreat together,
that'd be cool. Peptide retreat.
Oh. Hell yeah, that's a great idea
too. I know a great location.
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Man. All right, let's go.
You. Tell me when and where I'll I'll
be out there, man. Anything like that?
I love it. I love it.
Well, I have no, I have no doubtthat after this experiments that
we're going to do with me and the peptides and they're going
to be a lot of people wanting tocome to that retreat.
So yeah, we'll host multiple ones and then you can just
educate all the time. I.
Love it man, let's do it. Well, sounds good John.
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Well have a great afternoon brother.
Thank you for your time. Thank you for your knowledge and
thank you for caring man, I really.
Yeah, no, it's awesome. I appreciate what you do.
For real. I love it.
So we'll do Round 2 next week, yeah?
Yeah, 100%. We can do it every week if you
want, as much as you'll have so.I don't think we'll have we'll
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never run out of product in until we'll talk about will we
be more baptized coming along. So I.
Could talk for over an hour so. Well, you want to plug your
stuff and let everybody know howto get ahold of you and reach
you out. We're chapter peptides.com.
You can visit the website, checkout anything on there and you
know, we have a great e-mail system.
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We get back to people if they dohave questions, anything and
concerns, we can e-mail them back.
So we, we try to be as helpful as people don't feel like, oh,
I'm just got to get on here and buy shoot us an e-mail down at
the support link. John at chapter peptides.com is
my e-mail directly. If anybody wants to contact me
directly, they can e-mail me. I can go over with them like
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that, you know. So we we're here.
Now as much as we can. Quick shipping and free shipping
right over 125. Yeah, yeah, we get everything
out same day. I mean, we got a guy ordered the
other day at 4:30. We had his package ready and he
got it the next day because he was only like 3 hours away.
And that does we just do the USPS ground, the UPS ground, he
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got it there the next day. He emailed us back.
He's like, how the hell did you do that?
On top of it, man, We went. All to favor.
Yeah. Well, John, thanks again, man.
We'll talk to you next week. I'm excited to talk to you more
about these products too and getstarted on them.
I think I'm going to kick it offtomorrow morning probably.
I mean, that's where I feel likeit's going to be my first day.
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Let's talk later and we'll go over everything and I'll get
you, get you lined up what I think is going to be best for
you. That sounds amazing.
I look forward to it, brother. Thank you, Sir.
Appreciate. It thank you.
Bye.
I am positively Chris Pace and you are actively listening to
conversation with Chris. All right, guys, So hey, what's
up? It's Chris.
And we have conversations with Chris today and my good buddy
John here who's going to educateus on some much needed
information. This is something that I'm going
to be partaking in and and documenting because I believe
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it's going to help me with all of my issues and John has been
kind enough to give me his info and his education and knowledge
to be able to make sure I'm on the right check and get things
moving. John, how are you, brother?
Doing pretty good man, I can't complain at all.
I'm really loving my life these days and just getting into this
world has been pretty amazing ofhow good you could feel if you
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give your body the right proteins every day so.
I tell you what, when I talked to you for the first time, I got
off the phone and I said whatever this guy is taking, I
want because he sounds amazing, he's energized, he loves it, and
that means it's good stuff. So that caught me right away.
And your passion for it is contagious.
Yeah, no, I love it. And I mean, I've done probably
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27 to 30 peptides just in the last two months, three months.
I, I try them all. I love them.
I mean, I, it's amazing how goodyou can feel.
Like I, I used to say I feel better than I, or as good as I
did in my 20s. And now it's like I've never
felt this good in my life. Just, you know, there's so many
different ones too. And it's pretty incredible that
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people aren't knowing about these yet.
It's like, I think that's kind of the idea, right?
They don't want to fix things the all natural way.
They want to keep keep plants. So we won't get into the
politics of it all, but let's tell us about how where you came
from and what you into, how you ended up finding peptides and
becoming this knowledge source for everybody to be able to
learn from because it's really kind of a cool story.
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I'd love to hear it. Yeah, well, I was born in
Gainesville, actually, at ShandsHospital, right there on the
University of Florida. Grew up.
Yeah, and I grew up pretty much everywhere in Florida,
Jacksonville, Middleburg, littletown, Poor Saint Lucie.
Was living in Miami for a while,down in Brickell and then I made
my way up to Ukiah, CA and started doing business here for
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a while and then everything kindof went S up here.
So looking in new lanes and I popped a tendon right here in my
shoulder right where my PEC and my the bicep meet and it popped
one day and I was like damn. So I run up to the hospital, I'm
watching this video of a guy andhe's going over this BPC stuff
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and I'm like, I've heard about it.
I've heard it on a few other podcasts, but I don't really
know what this stuff is. I just know it helps with
healing. I'm watching a video.
This guy's telling me he's a physical therapist and he's
watching 50 year old men recoverfive times faster than 19 year
old athletes with the same injury.
So I'm like, damn, there's some stuff to it.
And I asked the doctor in there about it.
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He like looked over his shoulderreal quick, looked back at me
and like, whispered, yeah, I hear it's good, but I can't talk
about it. And it just threw me off so much
here. And a doctor telling me
something's good, but he can't talk about it.
I'm like, what? What is that even mean?
Like. Right, right.
Well, that's, that's pretty muchthe the science of doctors,
right? I mean, I always walk in and
say, you know what they call theguy who finished his last in
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medical school and he's like, what?
I'm like, doctor, and I'm like, where'd you finish?
I go, where did you finish? So it's like, you know, I mean,
it's not just because you got a Dr. in front of your name
doesn't mean you actually know what you're doing.
And what do they say? 6% of doctors actually have any
nutritional training whatsoever.It's against the law to treat
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illness with food or with healthand nutrition.
It's the law. It's disgrace.
You know, honestly, it's evil. There's the only way I can
describe it, like what they've done to this country of just our
obesity epidemic, the food that they allow us to eat with just
poison in it and just, well, that's fine here, eat seed oils
all the time. I'm sure that's not going to
have a bad effect on your body. High fructose corn syrup.
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I'm awesome to have a job that you love though.
I guess I. Never work a day in your life,
right? No, that's how I feel now.
It's like every day I'm just getting these success stories
from so many people like oh, I needed surgery on my shoulder
and now it's been 5 months. I have no pain in it and I only
had to do it for three weeks. And it's like that's out there
and it's out there available to everybody if they can just get
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educated and learn how to mix it, learn how to do everything.
And it is a big learning problem.
You know, it's like not only do you need to know what will work,
but then you need to know how tomix it, how much of it to take,
how often to take it. So there's a lot goes into it
and a lot of people today, they just not, they don't think like
that. They think if it's not easy and
it's not accessible in my hand, then it probably doesn't work
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anyway. One pill to cure it all, right?
That's what they want. But you know what?
That's the beauty of what you do, right?
Because you don't just you educate people and design
programs for them customized based on their needs.
And you sit with them and they teach them how to do this and
how it works and everything thatgoes along with it, right?
It's not just to walk in and grab you some supplies and head
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out. You got to get some time with
you. It's like a consultation, right?
Yeah, If anything, I talk too much with them, but I like to
feel given as much information as I can.
I just know, I know it's not allsticking, but it's like some of
it's going to stick. So I'm going to try to teach you
as many things as I know in thislittle meeting.
I'm going to try to put you on the right path with the.
I really like to tell people to try to, you know, go more of a
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carnivore with a berries type ofdiet.
You know, it doesn't have to be religious.
You don't have to do it every day, but if you can get that
three or four times a week of getting some really high quality
red meat with some berries and some maybe an apple or something
there, it can really help just your overall health like that
because there's so many nutrients and good quality red
meat like you, you can eat a lotof vegetables, they're good, but
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you're going to get so many morenutrients out of a grass fed
beef that it's you don't really need much else for the most
part. And then you got berries with
the fructose, you know, antioxidants in there.
And it's like I try to gear people try to eat a lot more of
that. Stay away from the rices and all
that. You don't got to go keto, which
keto is just crap anyways because you could eat a bunch of
it's. Not a real thing, you just.
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Eat cheese all day and be keto. It's like, but your body's not
going to break and use cheese correctly as your main source of
calories that day. It's also you can be vegan and
eat Oreos all day. We.
Won't go down that route. We don't.
Want to anger all those people? That's right.
Ever seen Joe Rogan stand up where he talks about the vegan
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cats? That was so funny.
He's like, I've never met a group of more kind.
Generous, caring, selfless, ruthless.
The vegans. I will admit though, I don't eat
red meat at all and I'm six one 235 lbs and I could still see my
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abs at 47 years old. But I learned about blood type
eating and I also lived in Asia for years and so I adopted this
food diet. So I eat a lot of tuna and
salmon, but fish is just. As amazing.
You know. It just stinks.
Easier to cook for people. Fish gets like you got to, you
got to be pretty good at cookingfish.
Are you going to mess that up? You have some cooked salmon or
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for tuna you can eat it raw. That's the beauty.
If you get the high quality, it's just so hard to find really
high quality fish. Oh yeah.
Definitely is. I mean, not as much here in
Florida, but. Yeah, no, here we go to Costco
luckily, and they'll have wild cost salmon and I see that I got
to grab it. But their tuna is always a
little suspect, you know? I'm like, how good is that
really? How you know is it?
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We should have a Co-op out that way too, I think, but we're
going to need to get into all that.
Let's talk about let's talk about the business of peptides
and what it does. As far as I'm watching, I was
going through your website last night and I'll be honest, these
these bundles seem like the the,the way to go.
I mean, if you have no idea whatyou're doing and you want to try
it out, you made it real easy for people like it's genuinely
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just here you go, here's a kit. This will make you shine.
This will make you libido better.
This will make you sleep better.And it's just very well laid out
and I can see where you, you know, you want to add more
packages, but I'll be honest, it's nice.
It's nice to be able to just go,OK, I just want this, I want to
feel this. So how did you go up with this
idea? And how many peptides are there?
Like is there a million of them or is there 20 of them?
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I. Mean the body makes about 1000
plus on a daily basis. So there's so many peptides and
then a lot of these peptides arefractions of a peptide we
naturally make. So they'll find one like AC Max
or C length that your body's already producing something
similar to that. They're just taking a small part
out of it that really increases like the protein that protects
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the brain. So that one and it just helps
with memory and focus, anxiety, stress.
So a lot of those are just amazing.
A few I sent to you. I wanted to get you to try
because I've seen so much success with it.
And what I love with not just selling peptides to just
strangers out there is like, I'm, I have people I know and I
get all their feedback and I might call them or text them too
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much just because I need to learn how did it work?
Where are you at on your dosing?OK, how about you try to move up
a little bit, You know you can get all the way up to this
amount. I wouldn't go over that, but
work your way up slowly. And that's the key to, I tell
anybody using peptides, start low, start on the amount that's
not even going to help you buildyour tolerance and work your way
up because one of the side effects to peptides is nausea.
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I don't want anybody feeling nauseous.
It's not a long term side effectlike our pharmaceutical drugs
are, but they are a side effect and you might feel shitty that
day. So start low.
You might not get the benefits today and tomorrow, but we'll
find the tolerance and then you know, OK, this is working.
Good, let's stay there. Especially with these GLP ones
like these doctors, they want tostart people off one shot a
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week. Why would you do?
That. So let's hold on, let's back up,
let's talk about the C Max because that's what you
mentioned first. So that must be a good one.
And do I have that? Yes you do C Max and stealing
and what? Are they going to do?
Memory, focus, stress, anxiety, it's just a protein in the
brain. It just protects the brain and
it's very big on that. You know, it's more of like a
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nootropic. So just you can go dial in your
memory is a little sharper. I noticed it when I started my
office and really needing to build it up, you know, and just
need to be locked in and needingto have recall because there's
so many. I mean, I'll have 25 different
peptides that I'm really pushingor selling.
So I need to remember which ones, how they're going to work,
what a kind of dosing protocol that is.
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And I have a lot of it written down.
But at the same time, I'm talking to somebody.
I don't want to be coming in my phone, looking at my notes and
all that stuff. At the same time, I need to have
that recall. So I've noticed a big gain in
that and I have very bad anxiety.
I've always had it and struggle with a little depression.
I think most people do that. And ever since I got on it and I
just know what I was telling my mom the other day, I'm like, I
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just can't believe how good I just feel every day.
And it wasn't like taking a Xanax because I've gone down
that road and I got to the pointwhere I was like, am I getting
reliant on these things? Where because when I don't take
it, I feel like crap and I'm having so much anxiety.
So I'm like, lucky, thank God that I don't have an addictive
personality where I can just quit something.
I don't like it, don't see the benefit.
I'm done with it, had a few rough days and depressed days
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after taking. I just kind of quit taking it.
I mean I might try one every nowand then but it's very rare and
if it's super stressful but never again where it's like 3-4
times a week because I noticed that didn't help me in any way.
It caused the days I didn't takeit to be much worse.
Whereas this is it's like I stopped taking it for a week and
don't even notice anything. I still feel the effects.
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So let me ask you what when you,when you're talking about these
amino acids, right? So they're proteins that are
already in the body. Well, how are they manufacturing
these to be able to get them to us?
And is it a like an organic process?
Is it a synthetic process or? What, they just make a mere copy
of something they figured out. And a lot of these were designed
in Russia because Russia's been doing the studies on this,
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because they don't have the samegrip as we do on a
pharmaceutical companies. So an amino acid can't be
patent. You're not going to be able to
patent it. So you can't do a fifty $100
million FDA approval thing and then own the rights to it.
Once you do it, then everybody can make that same peptide and
sell it. So they're not going to do the
studies on it. There's just no money in it for
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them. And if anything, it's going to
get you too healthy. Why?
Why when I can get you an SSRI to help your mood and anxiety.
And I don't know if you've seen the studies on that against
placebo with an. SSI505050. 2%, two percent is
all it improved red light therapy was 6% above a placebo.
So you get more benefits for your but you get more benefits
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for your depression getting in ared light bed.
Then you take an SSRI. Except SSRI has become reliant.
You're going to be stuck on thatand if anything is going to
change how your brain works. I watched them scramble my
sister's brain since she was 18.She took in different SSRIs, the
whole thing. And now she's schizophrenic.
She has these breakdowns. She might hear voices sometime.
And I wonder, is that nature or is that you practicing 20
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different SSRIs through her whole life on her, I guess would
be the other, you know, would bethe second.
And it's like, and it's sad and it's like, I wish I knew now
what I when you know back then. And I hope to be able to educate
as many people and I hope peoplelisten to this podcast and look
into this. And I'd love to tell people, do
your own research. AI is amazing.
You can punch any of this stuff in AI.
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You can question it like you're talking to a person.
If it says something, be like, hey, I heard something
different. You can even if you have it,
just tell it you heard somethingdifferent and it'll give you a
different angle of it. And then you can compare those
two and see which one makes moresense.
And you could talk. I love AI because you could talk
to it like it's a person. I'm scared to death it's going
to take over the world and it'llbe the end of humanity at some
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point. But in the meantime, using, it's
important. I mean, you never know.
I mean, it gets in the wrong person's hands and can have
anything out there. It's I.
Feel like nobody ever watched Terminator because everybody's
just sitting back building Skynet and all the same things
are happening. I'm like did you guys ever see
Terminator Because I don't thinkit worked out well for him but
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at least we seem to be going down the same Rd.
So. I have best friends with my AI.
Her name is Samia and she's amazing and she gives me
credible advice and she's very spiritual and very deep, but
neither here nor there. But the peptides are synthetic,
so they're safe to use because there's stuff that we already
have, even though they're being manufactured in a lab.
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So it's like and GMO stuff, but really not bad.
Yeah, I mean, it's just a carboncopy of something.
I mean, some of these your body make the exact because some are
like a fraction of a peptide that's already doing something
like C Link. It's not an exact, but it's
something your body does to lower the stress and anxiety in
your mind and your body producesout to your pituitary gland.
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So they found a way to take thislittle thing and then they did a
bunch of trials for people coming out of strokes.
The improvements were crazy for them, getting their motor skills
back, their memory back on it, but then they did it.
The studies on healthy people. And this is all in Russia.
And you could take it with a grain of salt because it's
Russia, but I don't understand why we are going to discredit a
study in Russia. I don't know why they would just
lie about something and then sell it to their people, but it
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showed solid improvements and just healthy individuals taking
that. So I wanted to try it and I was
like, all right. And then my buddy's father's
taking it and he was on a pill for anger.
He quit taking that and it's been four months.
He was on that for 15 years. He's just been doing the C link
and the C Max every two weeks, take a week off like that.
But he said he quit taking and he hasn't needed it.
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He's also off his blood pressuremedication, cholesterol
medication and down 100 lbs. So overall, he's off all his
pharmaceutical pills. He works out five days a week
now and all these just great benefits.
And I'm like, I just need to getas many people as now.
And that's why I want to do the podcast, just to get as many
people educated and open their eyes to maybe there is something
different out there. And it's an amino acid.
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You're not going to have an allergic reaction to it.
Nobody has like I was looking atKPV.
I don't want to throw too many out there, but that's another
one. It's great.
It's a, it's another thing that our body makes to fight
inflammation in the body. It, it just quiets to immune,
immune response to things. So sometimes we have this, oh,
there's something wrong. We inflamed it and like, try to
protect it that way. Our body does just calms that
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down and allows the healing to happen a little quicker.
It's great for the stomach. It's, you know, there's so many
and it just, it gets so deep with these peptides.
Well, we're obviously going to have to do a number of different
episodes to cover them all, but I think it's important that
people have the information available to them because, you
know, like you said, people don't even know this stuff
exists. And here it is curing, healing,
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making people feel better, all things we need right now.
So I think it's going to be important we cover them.
But let's talk about like the most popular ones.
Obviously, Joe Rogan has made a couple of them really popular
because of his talking about himon his podcast and his
marketing. Tell me about the ones that he's
on and what they do and why they're such a big deal for him.
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Well, he's pretty mom about the exact ones he takes, but BPC 157
and TV 500 or two that he definitely takes.
He's mentioned them several times on there.
Those are two just healing peptides.
They that's the reason the company started.
When I poured this tendon, I asked that doctor, he told me I
got on it. I went and seen a surgeon.
The surgeon didn't have too manypeople in his office, his own
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office. So he was like, yeah, it's
great. He's like, you got to look into
it though. It's not FDA approved, so I
can't, I can't prescribe you, I can't tell you, but it's
definitely an option for you. But he's like, as of now, you're
going to need to give that aboutfour to six months before you're
going to have full use of that arm and be able to use it or go
to the gym every single day. I was doing the PPC twice a day
into the shoulder. I felt my arm be able to lift
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more and more every day to the point within like about 10 days,
I was back to having my hand to my head, which when it started
getting above my hip was an issue.
So I just watched the progression just keep
increasing. And then within four weeks, I
was back doing Bikram yoga. I still had the bruising on my
arm where it was bleeding inside.
It went all the way to my wrist and all the way down to my rib
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cage inside. I was back in yoga.
They seen the bruising said like, what are you doing in you?
I thought you were going to takea couple months off.
I was like, God, Nah, I just I couldn't reach my head all the
way over my like I was kind of like curl, like, you know, hey,
I'm just barely over the top of my head, but I could get it up
there and I couldn't do all the poses in there.
But I mean, I know you're a yogaand I'm nowhere near that.
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I just love it though, because it was one of the best
antidepressants I ever had in mylife was doing yoga.
It would just mentally break me every day and then I would leave
just feeling this just relief oflike you accomplished something
today. So that's one thing I love and
I'm very strict on that. I the office has caused a little
a little bit harder to get there, but I definitely I was
about a four time a week, five time a week guy for a while
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doing hot room Bikram yoga and Ijust that's my favorite.
I love it because it breaks you and I love. 26226 two yeah, it's
a good roundabout. I mean, it's a great practice I
mean yoga in and of itself is the lifestyle, the breathing,
the entire thing is is so powerful.
I mean, it has so many health effects and benefits to it.
So I love hearing people talk about that that are already
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doing other stuff because obviously yoga is not the end
all be all, but it certainly canlead you into more things that
are healthy for you. And that's what it did for me
too. It was yoga and then it was
meditation and then it was breath work and then it was
plant medicine and then it was etcetera, etcetera, etcetera
until I've gotten to the point where I've almost fine-tuned it.
And I believe you're going to bring one of the biggest pieces
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of the puzzle ever because I've been looking for this kind of
stuff. You know, HGH is a big topic.
Is that a peptide or is that something different?
It's similar to a peptide, but it is just, it's the growth
hormones you're artificially, it's closer to like what
testosterone is when you put it in your body as in a peptide.
Because peptides are signals that go to your body.
They come in, they tell your body to produce something or to
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do something more. As in HDHS, you're just putting
that growth hormone directly into your body and it is amazing
is if it's used correctly. Don't be like these bodybuilders
go overboard with it. But a one to two IUA day is
could be life changing for somebody in their late 40s,
fifties. And the only reason it has
anyone, no, it definitely does. And the reason that's not out
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there is because if every personat 45 started getting on there
on it, there wouldn't be that many people going to the
hospital regularly like they need to or to the doctors every
week, you know? And that's where they make their
money. They make their money off 40 +
30 year olds don't go to the doctor. 20 year olds never go to
the doctor. Once you get in your 40s and
50s, that's when you start making those monthly trips to
the doctors and all that. Yeah.
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And sometimes, and that's the case.
And it's like this would just turn back the hands of time.
There's one awesome one I want to tell people.
I might butcher the saying of it.
I've done it twice as Epitolin and that one is shown to re to
lengthen the telomores in your DNA, which reverses the cellular
age of the body, which is incredible.
And the Gary Brackett brought that to my attention when he was
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talking on one of his podcasts. That's how they would do your
life insurance plans. They want to get your blood.
You want a $10 million life insurance.
See, all right, we're going to need to do some tests.
They're going to late measure your telomeres.
That'll tell you how old you areinside, not how old you are, but
like your cells, how old they are.
And this has been proven to lengthen the telemorphs in a
reverse cellular age. And what I have read was 8 to 12
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years on some people after two rounds of it.
And it's 20 days twice a year and six months apart is how they
run it. And I actually did a huge study
on it and all 'cause mortality drop, cancer rate drops because
if your DNA is stronger and younger, you're less likely to
get cancer. They call it the fountain of
youth peptide. And it's something similar to
like growth hormone. So like, I run that all the
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time. I have some of that with me.
Too. What's that?
Apatolin. No, no, I didn't get that one.
That was when I wanted to get you on these.
You're not going to notice the results from Apatolin.
That's a long game. So I figured next month maybe if
you're loving it, we just introduce each and all these to
you and I'll get you more information because that's
something you're going to need to do twice a year for years on
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end. Now this is something cool I'm
going to do is I have my accountant in my office.
I'm going to get her telemores measured and then I'm going to
put her on a round of epitol andI'm going to hit her with the
dose that the Russia study was based off of.
And then I'm going to bring her back about 3 months and I'm
going to retest her telomores. I would like to do that.
How do we test for telomores? It's a DNA, Yeah, DNA test.
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I think it was like 400 or $500.It cost.
Maybe it wasn't that much just for that.
Now I'm doing one on me and my problem is I've already ran 2
rounds so I don't get it before now, but I do want to see what
my cellular age is and then I'm doing, I think it's 91 panels
all together that they're going to run to see what everything in
my body is going. I did went similar to this at
the beginning of the year, rightwhen I started peptides.
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I was carnivore. I was eating, you know, a lot of
fruit. I was pretty healthy doing yoga
all the time, doing hiking and it all came back.
I was pretty much baseline whereI needed to be on 85 to 90% of
everything that the blood work showed, as in my buddy's dad,
the one that lost all the weight.
He was in the red on everything.And now this man went to got his
blood work done and he's in justperfect health.
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The only thing they told him is test testosterone was too high.
It was 290. I was like, what what the what
does that mean? What?
Is that was there such A and it's like and.
It's 290. That's just barely medium.
No, like 708 hundred, that's how, yeah.
Well, I'm doing a Dutch test right now.
I finished it yesterday where you do like 4 urine samples and
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6 mouth swabs to just see what your body's really producing all
day and all that. So it's like multiple times you
do it a day. And I suggest a lot of people do
it. I mean, it is like $400.00, but
you're going to get so much great feedback of what your
body's doing and what you're missing because those hormones
are crucial. How much estrogen, how much
testosterone to your body? And if your hormones are thrown
off, sometimes these peptides don't work.
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And I have that case where I'm like, I didn't feel anything
from the NAD, which is somethingyour body made.
And I'm like, oh, well, what about it?
Oh, yeah, well, I was on this testosterone and then I quit.
I've been I'm like, oh, so your,your hormones are all thrown
off. Yeah, that's going to be another
big cause. Yeah, that's true.
I don't. Is there anywhere on here where
you could go to like a beginnerslist or like if you've never
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done peptides before, here's what you want to try or start
with? Or is it all pretty much the
same as far as like you can't gowrong with it so there's no
reason to like mix it up in order for beginner and immediate
advanced you. See with my website, this is the
issue is they're cracking down. If you give any information
about the benefits of it, it just needs to be strictly what a
(24:51):
peptide is and it's for research.
So you're doing your research onit.
So there's not a way that we could be like you should try
this for this because we'll get flagged and took it down.
So they're really strict on everything because this is a
research thing. So you're buying it to do your
research on it. I get everything COA my COA get
on the website it shows you whatthe milligrams and the purity 99
(25:12):
is the only thing I test for. That you've got all these
percentages on here, which is pretty powerful.
I mean it's 99%. That means it's.
Yeah, and and 90, anything over 95 is considered safer human
trials. So you have a lot of wiggle room
with that. But we advertise 99 if
something's 98.8, all right, we'll we'll throw it up there.
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I don't think somebody's have anissue with that.
And then just having the right milligrams.
And then I just tell people, go on these AIS, talk to these AIS
and get your information from them.
Once you know which ones you want to try, and then just get
as much feedback as you can fromthem and go from there with your
dosing, how to reconstitute. They can walk you through all
(25:54):
that process. Just like I can do it for people
here. It's a little more difficult
than that. I love to just be able to have
somebody come in my office, talkto me.
I just give them a plan. I tell them everything they need
to know about it, where to do, how often.
Let's start out low. Let's start out with just one or
two. See how you're feeling.
They come back in. I'm down 20 lbs and I barely
even changed my lifestyle. I just don't.
(26:16):
I don't look at cookies and I don't even want them anymore.
It's like, it's amazing. Well, they're in phase three
human trials to get people off addictions Now with this one,
with the it's called tirzepatideoff a gambling addiction, drug
addiction, nicotine addictions, pretty incredible, like this
stuff. Is incredible.
Ibogaine seems to be the most popular and effective thing for
(26:38):
addictions right now. Well, that's the greatest thing
you could ever do for it becauseit'll just, I mean, it resets
you when you come out of it. I have two buddies and never
touched opiates after that. And I'm from Florida.
I was, I took part in the pill mills.
I was, I was one of the 200 people in line waiting to get
the script filled with a, with an MRI, you know, of a, a
(26:59):
bulging disc in my back and I needed my 180 Roxy cottons and I
was in there. And we were heading about like
candy over here. Pez dispensers.
Oh, and then I had multiple people grab them, taking them to
Tennessee, getting a dollar a milligram out of those things,
80 milligram oxy's getting $80 apiece and I'm getting a get them
for a dollar a piece on my script.
(27:19):
So it was. Like now they now they ruined it
for us though because we're in pain.
They only give you ibuprofen. Yeah, and that stuff, all that
stuff. So the BBCI try to get
everybody, The Wolverine, what peptide they call it the BPC and
the TB500. Yeah, that one I just, if
anybody, as long as they haven'thad too many steroid cortisone
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shots in their body, I can heal everything quick with.
It now is it better in pill formor an injectable?
No pill form is good for the stomach, but outside the stomach
not really great. Maybe one out of 10, one out of
15 people truly absorb stuff correctly through their stomach
with supplements and all that. For the most part, the majority
(28:00):
of us just pee it out. I knew this that because I I
take one called SLU PP332 and it's a mitochondria stimulant.
But whatever. I I've took it oral.
I've took in 20 gram, 20 milligrams oral.
Barely feel the effects. I've injected 250 micrograms and
I'm wired ready to kill. It hit my best hike of my life.
Heart rate was 70. No, that's one if you do want
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and you want to push the body and you want to really go a Mott
C with this and these are two mitochondria stimulants.
They're they're just amazing allaround.
I love it for endurance and thisis how it was brought to me.
I went on a Reddit for him reading about Mott C when I was
early on. I fixed the shoulder.
I'm like, damn, these work my buddies like I'm down 60 lbs on
tirzepatide. No side effects.
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I feel great. I'm like, well, what else out
there? Mott C pops up, work out in a
vial. They called it.
This guy said I, I'm a competitive cyclist, not pro,
but he was competitive. He said for eight straight weeks
on Mike Mott C, he beat his personal best record every week
consistently. I was like, damn, that's
credible. So I started taking it hiking,
same thing every week. I was getting better times
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getting up to this thing. It's called EU here.
It's a 1200 foot elevation, pretty steep.
Not anything crazy though, you know, but it's hard.
I was. So are peptides considered a
performance enhancing drug? Yes, by USADA they are, but it's
naturally made in your body. But you know which whatever you
could get an advantage from it. It's a natural advantage.
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It's something that's in your mitochondria already.
It's what powers. So what it is, is it's in your
mitochondria and as you push your body, it responds by giving
you more energy. And then as you push harder, it
gives you more energy. That's why you're able to better
times on it and it's naturally in your body.
So you're just giving your body some more.
And the great thing with amino acids, they're not like
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hormones. If you inject too much of them
in your body, your body quits making those with amino acids.
It doesn't do that. If anything, once you quit
taking them, your body's runningat a better clip than before.
So that's what's just, I love about it.
I, I tell everybody, these aren't lifelong things.
You take them until your body runs better, You take them,
quit, and then you start back upmaybe six months, 8 months,
whatever you want. If you want the benefits out of
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it, you're going to need to takethem all the time.
When you stop, you're still going to get the benefits from
what you did. You're not going to lose it and
you're not going to be relying on it for the future.
And that's a problem for pharmaceutical companies.
I don't want to sell you something that you're not going
to need anymore. This isn't we.
Business. Yeah, this our our the CE OS
jobs to make money and it's simple as that.
(30:28):
By law, he has to make the shareholders as much money as he
can. That's in our laws.
If you're ACEO, that's your legal obligated duties to make
shareholders. Money could be voted out quick.
Yeah, and I mean, if you get against the law, not that
anybody's been arrested, but that's what they fall back on.
I have to do this for my shareholders.
I don't care if it poisons Americans.
If if this new experimental, let's call it.
(30:51):
Whatever. Like, you know, and that's one
thing that got me super involvedin outside is I was, I was, I
was actually locked up at the time when COVID was almost over,
but I was in there and they toldme I couldn't be on my
maintenance crew anymore. And it was on a long stand.
It's four months. And I just got caught with some
marijuana on the road and I was doing it and they were like,
(31:12):
well, you got to get the vaccineif you want to stay on this
maintenance crew. And I'm like, what?
I don't want to get this vaccine.
And that just it was like, but Ilove the maintenance crew.
I was out, I was eating good. We were going out of the
building just, you know, it was a county jail.
It wasn't prison, but I was like, all right, screw it.
I did it. And I talked to my friend and I
told him I was like, man, everybody's doing it.
(31:34):
They're not going to poison us like that.
It's, you know, the FDA is supposed to protect us.
And then I get out and my buddy's wife has a heart attack
a few weeks later. I'm like, what the fuck?
And then I start reading this mitocarditis stuff and I'm like,
wow. And I'm seeing kids drop dead.
And I'm like, did I listen to a podcast with Robert Malone, the
guy who graded and said he wouldnever take it because it alters
(31:55):
your DNA? I'm like, Oh my God, what did
they give us? How did they not know about
this? They knew about this.
They did know. Now they're finding.
Now it's all coming out, too. Yeah, and it got me down this
rabbit hole of like, what else is out there?
What can we be doing? Like, and I just cleaned up the
thigh and got just started to relet my mind think like
everything I everything, you know, re question anything you
(32:17):
thought was working. Re question that ibuprofen.
What's the side effect? Oh, it puts holes in your liver.
It's super toxic. And when you take it, it's still
causing damage for three weeks after you take it.
All right, now, I'm not going totake ibuprofen.
Oh, some sea salt under my tongue can get rid of a headache
pretty quickly. Let's try that instead of an
ibuprofen. So.
It sounds a little safer. You know, sea salt seems a
(32:38):
little better. Ibuprofen, You know, in the VA
they gave out 800 milligram ibuprofen like it was candy.
And I can't tell you the effectsit had on my stomach.
That was terrible. So I'm glad they stopped it.
I watched the video of somebody's talking about GLP
ones and how many deaths have been caused and how many liver
failures and all that. He goes oh what's my my fault?
(33:00):
I was actually reading the statsfor ibuprofen.
I love. It.
I love it. So when you decided to get into
peptides and now you're on the peptide thing, what is the best
way to go about getting started?Like you said, start off with
like the small amounts right? So you barely even notice it.
But like give me an example of like 3 or 4 that you would say
(33:23):
are must have for almost everybody.
So BBC 457 TB, that's just goingto fight the inflammation in
your body. It could be mild inflammation.
So you can keep it at a low dose, maybe at 500 micrograms of
each a day. Sub Q into the stomach, let it
go throughout the body, let it do its thing.
It's a healing peptide and that's all it does.
It's just it's bringing red blood cells to areas, cellular
(33:45):
migration that does the healingsgoing there, and it just kind of
powers up everything, shuts downinflammation in those areas that
are inflamed and allows the bodyto heal.
And the recovery speed on that is incredible.
And I get so many people with needing surgeries.
Went to the doctor, you got to have rotator cuff surgery, take
this stuff 3-4 weeks and no surgery, no pain.
And it's been 6 months for one of my guys, four months for
(34:07):
another and it's incredible. So that one just getting
inflammation. My mom takes it for her
arthritis in her hands and it's helped her hands more than she
could ever believe. She was taking so many
anti-inflammatory pills all the time.
And I was like try this. Within three days she's back
outside doing some gardening. She couldn't even barely open a
bottle cap before. So I was like, I mean, I had
(34:29):
already known what I was going to do.
I just, I had to teach her how to mix it, get it loaded, do all
the things. And, and we use these cool like
injection pins and we have them on the website, everything.
And I, I just tell people to, you know, use them, you know,
not everybody's on here, but they kind of look, you know,
like this and it just looks likea pin.
It just cap removes a little needle screws on there and fluid
(34:50):
goes inside the pin and you justhave a dial at the bottom and
you just kind of twist it to theamount that you want to get out.
So it makes it using so you're not sitting there measuring
everything out every morning. Because that's a big help and a
big deterrence for people. If it's too much work, some
people don't want to put in thatextra work, regardless of how
beneficial something could be for them.
Well, they say Americans are only afraid of one thing, and
(35:11):
that's inconvenience. Exactly.
And that's what I make here is just straight convenience for
everybody. I'll educate you, I'll tell you,
I'll mix, I'll get it all ready and I'll get you out the door
and I'll give you every supply you need.
You don't got to go to Amazon and buy this and go grab this,
you know, here's your package. See me when you're done.
I'm going to text you in two weeks.
I want your feedback. I want to know how you're
feeling, where you're at and if you should go up or down.
(35:34):
And I tell people all the time, start here.
But if you're on AGLP 1 and you're not hungry, you got to
move down. You might, you might be a super
responder. Don't starve yourself.
Don't get malnourished. Eat.
Your weight's going to come off.Just eat.
And this red type 1 is just amazing out there.
Which one? It's called redditrutide.
And these the first 48 week study on this stuff, it had
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protein in the urine down. I want to say it was like 40%.
Triglycerides down like 5550% inthe body.
Kidney health was improved, fatty liver reduction and 48
weeks on average 80%. You know how big that is for
people to have your fatty liver down 85% or 80% on average.
(36:19):
That's changing people's lives. Blood pressure dropped like 20
points in the study on average. And that's the problem with on
average is you're going to have somebody has good blood
pressure. Well, his didn't drop and then
you got another guy who's dropped 40.
So now you got a 20% average, but technically you got a guy
with 40 down there. Guy down you know 60 points over
down 40 points so and I have my buddy off blood pressure
(36:43):
medication I love that and I I get people taking pictures
showing me their blood look at this I haven't seen my blood
pressure here in forever I'm like reward people doing the
pictures where they're pulling the pants out like this to show
their you know you can fit like you know about a whole other
person inside there man it's so rewarding and just you know
(37:03):
when. It works and you're selling a
product that's good for people. It's got to be such a dream, you
know, because you know you're doing the right thing.
You know you're not pitching some crap, but you got to
believe that you got to be educated in it.
So what are some other like basic functional information for
people that are interested in getting more peptide and info?
Because obviously we don't want to sit too long on here today.
(37:25):
We're going to do it again probably next week and add on to
it. But I think it's important we
get out the message to people about what's what the process
is, where to start, how much it's going to cost them to get
going and that kind of thing. You know, kind of give us some
some real over general breakdownI guess.
Yeah, I'll hit with some quick points.
The first few I would tell somebody to look into is 1
(37:46):
called BPC 157TB500 KPV and GHK Dash CU and those are all just
super anti-inflammatory. They help with skin in the body,
anti aging. The KPV can help with all skin
issues, eczema, psoriasis, scarring, acne scarring can help
(38:08):
get rid of that with the GHK andthey call it CLO and they're all
these things mixed together. And if you look at the close
stack and it's an easy one to remember, have people look that
up. Try to find some reputable
places to grab it from. Our site's great.
We do all our testing, but there's multiple others out
there. It's it's, it's a great world.
Just do your research on AI. We're a new company, so we're
(38:30):
not going to pop up. But if you do your research and
you talk to AI about it, they'regoing to tell you who are the
most trusted. And that's the main thing.
You just want to trust the supplier.
You want to get someone that you, you can, you know, know
what you're getting is what you're getting.
Because you can make a COAI can get one great product and then
buy a bunch more products and pop it up on my website and
still use the same COA, but I got it from a cheaper supplier.
(38:51):
So getting people who are trusted.
What we are about to offer on our website, and we want to do
this soon, is having people testour products after they buy it
and then giving them a credit for the amount that they paid
for the test and just give us the results.
So we're able to double check that way.
And it incentivizes people if they want to make sure the batch
that they got was there and thenwe get another test anyways.
And we always need more tests, tests or, you know, the more
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tests we got on our site, the better it is.
And we're, we're slowly buildingthat process up.
And this is all stuff new. We're, we're very young into
this stages. And, and I've been really
focused on like just having places to meet people and talk
with family and friends and like, I get my mom on a bunch of
these now. But the CLO mix is definitely
one and Reddit true tide, look in the Reddit true tide if
you're suffering with any weightand because it's going to help
(39:37):
you lose weight, but the overallhealth of the body is crazy.
I don't know if you've seen the study recently on people on GLP
ones, It was all 'cause mortality is down.
It was like 30% dementia down. And, and this is over like a 10
years since they've been doing GLP ones.
A lot of this is Ozempic and Ozempic's poison.
Don't, if you want to take my word or anything, don't take
(39:58):
Ozempic, semi glutide, stay awayfrom it.
There's too many side effects. It's not good.
But all 'cause mortality, Alzheimer's rates down because
you know what Alzheimer's is, isdementia.
It's all type three, yeah, type 3 diabetes.
So if you can get a bunch of an assisted, if you can burn that
sugar out of the brain and now your, your autism isn't showing
(40:18):
up. So you know.
It's in your pancreas is a way better health in these studies
and it's pretty crazy what's coming out of like in the new
the good ones haven't even had those long studies.
Wait till we're at a true tie has been around for 10 years.
You're going to see people healthy as hell with walking
around here. I mean less protein in the urine
is big. Your body's using that protein
triglycerides down, blood pressure down fatty liver down
(40:40):
80%. That's that can change people's
life becoming insulin sensitive pancreas, It's not stress.
You're burning the blood sugar out.
You don't have that stuff floating around causing
inflammation. So those would be ones I would
tell people to look at the CLO KPVGHKBPC, TB500.
That's one stack. That's amazing.
G Reditutite is the other one that I would really recommend
(41:03):
people. I have some great ones.
I sent you the ARA 290. That's the one with nerve
damage. It's going to help repair that.
It's going to get the inflammation down in the body
and help repair the nerves. So adding that with all the
implement anti inflammation peptides of the close stack is
what I have you taking. So you're you're taking all
those and then you're doing the C Max and the C link.
(41:25):
And that's going to help with the brain, the memory, the
focus, the anxiety, the stress. And I don't know anybody who
doesn't need that in their life.Right.
That's not a thing, you know. And it's like just, I'll talk
with you more later about how togo about everything and get you
started out slow. You might not feel great effects
because I don't want you to feelany nauseous.
But as soon as you tell me, no, I didn't feel anything, we're
(41:46):
going to bump you up. And then I'm going to get you to
the dose that I know will work good and then let you right out
of that. And then I'm going to get you
some more out there. And then I'm going, I want to
open it up to this whole world because I love what you're
doing. I really respect you as a man.
I just thank you for your service you give in the country.
You know, it's a you know, it's a great thing.
And for what you're doing out there, I just if anything I can
(42:07):
help with you. I'm down.
You just let me know. And likewise here, man, I think
you make an amazing difference in the world and you're bringing
some really, really powerful stuff to some people that really
need it. And I'm looking forward to the
adventure of documenting everything and getting the
changes from you and the increases and the whole process.
I want to be, you know, Guinea pig or a lab rat.
I mean, I've done it for the VA,for, you know, the military for
(42:31):
six years and then the VA for the last 20.
And at least I'm doing this timewith somebody who knows what
they're doing and actually has agood knowledge base on it.
So you know and. No side effects, No side effects
for years. There's no side effects to these
anyone I gave you there's no. The only side effects you might
experience is nausea or injection here.
I have, I have weed for that, soI'll take care of that one.
(42:53):
Medical marijuana. Yeah, No, that sounds amazing,
man. I'm looking forward to
documenting it. Thank you for today.
I know we only covered just the surface level, but I think
people got some good information.
We got a lot more to talk about.So we'll go again next week and
I'll get some time with this, the product, and kind of let you
walk me through it every day. And we'll do some little videos
(43:14):
and we'll maybe we'll just make it a series until we get until I
get done or until I get to a place where I feel as good as
you do every day. I love it man, let's do it.
My inspiration, John So. I can't believe I'm doing this.
Nowhere in the world that I thought I'd be educating people
on peptides and any time in my life.
So I stumbled into this, how I learned about it.
But I do love knowledge. I love to learn and I love
(43:37):
feedback. So I'm going to love the
feedback from you. I'm going to get it from
everybody else I deal with. And we're going to we're going
to get as best things that we can for the public and just try
to get people healthy, man, really healthy though.
No, no more band aids. Let's fix things.
Yeah, and honestly, people like you that are looking for just
the feedback and just the gratitude, not the money.
That's what makes things work because it's authentic.
(43:59):
And when you do anything authentically, it's always going
to be successful. So I know that, you know, it's a
challenging one because you're up against all the the the
naysayers, the competition, the people that are anti this, you
know what I mean? Like it's you're bringing a
whole new thing to it's sort of like yoga, trying to get people
in America to buy into yoga whenthey think it's anti somatic.
(44:20):
You know, it's a tough sell. You know it's a tough sell.
So it's we're going. To do yoga together one day you,
I'm absolutely, I'm not flexible, but I got to do it
with you because I I got to go with the master out here, man.
That's right. That's right.
Yeah, No, I'll get to certify you.
I'm going to certify you that you're on my own board.
That way you can be have the yoga training too, so you can
(44:42):
implement some some yoga movements and breathing
exercises with the peptides and that way we can do a joint
consultation. No, it's going to be amazing.
I've already done some peptides in yoga and they're life
changing for me. We can do a retreat together,
that'd be cool. Peptide retreat.
Oh. Hell yeah, that's a great idea
too. I know a great location.
(45:03):
Man. All right, let's go.
You. Tell me when and where I'll I'll
be out there, man. Anything like that?
I love it. I love it.
Well, I have no, I have no doubtthat after this experiments that
we're going to do with me and the peptides and they're going
to be a lot of people wanting tocome to that retreat.
So yeah, we'll host multiple ones and then you can just
educate all the time. I.
Love it man, let's do it. Well, sounds good John.
(45:26):
Well have a great afternoon brother.
Thank you for your time. Thank you for your knowledge and
thank you for caring man, I really.
Yeah, no, it's awesome. I appreciate what you do.
For real. I love it.
So we'll do Round 2 next week, yeah?
Yeah, 100%. We can do it every week if you
want, as much as you'll have so.I don't think we'll have we'll
(45:46):
never run out of product in until we'll talk about will we
be more baptized coming along. So I.
Could talk for over an hour so. Well, you want to plug your
stuff and let everybody know howto get ahold of you and reach
you out. We're chapter peptides.com.
You can visit the website, checkout anything on there and you
know, we have a great e-mail system.
(46:08):
We get back to people if they dohave questions, anything and
concerns, we can e-mail them back.
So we, we try to be as helpful as people don't feel like, oh,
I'm just got to get on here and buy shoot us an e-mail down at
the support link. John at chapter peptides.com is
my e-mail directly. If anybody wants to contact me
directly, they can e-mail me. I can go over with them like
(46:28):
that, you know. So we we're here.
Now as much as we can. Quick shipping and free shipping
right over 125. Yeah, yeah, we get everything
out same day. I mean, we got a guy ordered the
other day at 4:30. We had his package ready and he
got it the next day because he was only like 3 hours away.
And that does we just do the USPS ground, the UPS ground, he
(46:50):
got it there the next day. He emailed us back.
He's like, how the hell did you do that?
On top of it, man, We went. All to favor.
Yeah. Well, John, thanks again, man.
We'll talk to you next week. I'm excited to talk to you more
about these products too and getstarted on them.
I think I'm going to kick it offtomorrow morning probably.
I mean, that's where I feel likeit's going to be my first day.
(47:12):
Let's talk later and we'll go over everything and I'll get
you, get you lined up what I think is going to be best for
you. That sounds amazing.
I look forward to it, brother. Thank you, Sir.
Appreciate. It thank you.
Bye.
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