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October 12, 2020 13 mins

After Boris Johnson announces a new three-tier system of increasingly tough restrictions to determine England’s local lockdowns, University of London virologist Dr Elisabetta Gropelli joins Theodora Louloudis to discuss whether a focus on social interaction is enough to avoid the death rates seen over the country’s first wave.

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