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No such thing as a small stepsmall obedience or big one.
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Obedience is obedience andobedience is success.
Hey friends, it is PBJ. Again,welcome back to disrupting
burnout. You're this series ofwomen who disrupt or who define
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disruption. Let me tell yousomething, I hope that you are
set on fire. I hope thatsomething is turning on the
inside of you that won't leaveyou alone. Until you continue to
go deeper into purpose. That'sthis goal that you become uneasy
with good enough that you becomeuneasy with fine that you become
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uneasy with just because this isalways what I've done, and that
you get so on fire about whatyou were created to do, y'all
today, I have a special treat.
And this is an I'm trying not tocry. Let me hold myself
together. Today, I have theopportunity to introduce you
all, not just to a woman onfire, not just a woman who has
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so much power. But this isfamily.
I'm introducing you all to myfamily member Shomoneik Brown,
Yall, Shomoneik and I grew uptogether in the church, in the
youth choir, cheering togetherin high school. Listen, when you
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talk about energy and bring itOh, you're about to find that
only when you are about to findout. And when I look at what God
is doing in her life, it doesnot surprise me at all. It
doesn't surprise me because whathe's manifesting now is the same
way she showed up on the youthchoir. The same way she showed
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up as a cheerleader. She is thesame woman. But this power is
magnified. So it is my honor.
It's my honor to introduce youall to my cousin
to my cousin Shomoneik Brown.
Welcome to disrupting burnoutcousin. Oh my goodness, thank
you so much. And we can't bothbe boohoo crying. It's just not
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gonna work.
We cry, we cry. It is what it isover here it is
over here. But this is just amoment is a moment that I just
want to stop and honor Godbecause who knew? Wow. He did.
The only one we knew Yeah, heknew. He knew he knew. All
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right. So so let's get into it.
Let's get into it right now.
Let's start by telling thepeople who you are.
I am a child of God. I am hisdaughter.
He is the love of my life.
I get the awesome privilege towork with him. In this thing
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called life. I am a wife toWilliam Brown. He is also the
love of my life. We have twobeautiful daughters, Jada and
Caitlin they are 10 and eight.
And I am just a vessel to beused by God. Whatever he tells
me to do I do it. If it'ssinging I sing. If it's
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speaking, I speak if it'sencouraging. I encourage people
if it's to make somebody laugh,be silly. I do it. I'm just a
vessel being used by him. Yeah,that's me. Oh my goodness,
listen, I need to get into yourstory because I know so many
folks who listen to thispodcasts are educators, not just
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educators. Everybody's welcome.
But I know the majority of myaudience is educators because
that's who we are. And I alsoknow that after 18 years of
being an educator, you just tooka huge leap. So tell us the
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story. Tell us how you got to 18years and what is happening
right now. That's so good. Um,growing up, I always knew that I
wanted to be a teacher. My momwas a teacher. I would see her
preparing things and I'm justlike, I want to do that I was a
teacher's pet. You neededsomething. I was the person to
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go get it. I'm a talker. I liketo talk and I was like, I could
get paid to talk. Sign me uplike this is it.
And so I went to school, went toUSC Aiken got my bachelor's
degree in education, elementaryeducation, got my master's
degree from Walden University.
And I was teaching II mean, you're living out the
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purpose that I thought then thatthat's where God had me. I mean,
I loved it. Anytime anybodyasked me like, What did you do?
I'm an educator. I'm a teacher.
I mean, I was, like, proud ofit. I get to pour into kids
every single day, I get to teachthem something. And I see it
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when that light goes off. It'slike, they got it. And it made
me feel so good, right. So I'mteaching teaching, I actually
taught at the same school, EastAiken School of the Arts taught
there. I did my internshipthere. And then I ended up
teaching there. And then I endedup in the room that I did my
internship with. So it was likea full circle, taught second
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grade, third grade. And then itwas September of 2022. Last
year, God just gently tapped meon my shoulder and was like,
Hey, this is your last yearteaching.
Oh,but that is what we this. This
is what we do. What do you mean?
Is this my last year teaching?
What is it my last year,December is in my last year,
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June. And I found this out aboutmyself. Whenever I asked
specific questions like that Ialready know the answer. I just
don't want to know the answer.
Because why would I ask? Is itDecember or June? You know,
usually you they end up this isyour last year you think June
because the year ends the schoolyear ends in June. So I'll come
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to find out. It's December. Hewants me to take this leap. And
I'm like, Lord,okay, hold on. Yes, yes. Yeah,
hold on, hold on plane gottaslow down. Because, yes,
kamikaze real quick, becausethere's somebody listening right
now. Oh, who was feeling thattap on the shoulder?
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Hearing that whisper. Andthey're just showing it away?
Because that doesn't make sense.
Why doesn't make this, this iswho I am. That's it. This is who
I am, like, everything in mylife led up to this. And I'm
doing the thing that I alwaysthought and I love it. Right?
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Like it's one thing when thingsstart to fall apart. Mine is a
thing where it's all out oforder. That's a little easy to
say, I need to do somethingdifferent because this, but it
real grown, when you walkaround, walk away from the thing
that's working.
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It's real. It's another level.
When God taps you on theshoulder and says give back to
me that I gave to youand can go trust me to have a
better thing for you.
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You trust me because this is thething about God. He don't just
like all of a sudden out of theblue. give you this. Right. He
is preparing me the whole entiretime to be able to make that
step.
And I had to get I had to givehim a yes. I had to.
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And the thing about it is my yeshappened in September. But the
movement and everything didn'thappen until December, early
January. So he was he was.
Yeah, even in that time. He'spreparing me. He's showing me I
don't just say okay, God, I'mgonna go quick. That's it. Like,
you can't just hear from God.
And just, sometimes you have toask for clarification like,
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Okay, I hear you say this. Tellme what to do next. Yes, I
agree. Tell me what to do next.
Because I want to do your will.
But I want to do it your way.
Oh my gosh, okay. Oh, okay. Holdon to things.
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When he gives us something. Yes.
The face to weight.
The face to be obedient, becausejust because he gave it to you
today, doesn't mean it's today'sword. That's it. He'll give you
a word today. That's for sixmonths a year. He's preparing
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you for that. But so often wejump off the cliff I trust you
got going he like wait, youreally don't trust me because I
didn't even like I didn't giveyou instructions yet. No, I
didn't tell you how to build it.
You don't know what an ark hasnever rained before.
Before. So I've given you I'vegiven you the command but I have
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instructions specific, specific,specific instructions for your
step. If you will slow down andlisten. So when
Meet me this because I know thatpeople are leaning in and they
want to know what happened.
We're not there yet.
Talk to me about what he did toprepare you to say yes. Because
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I know that before you got tothat point of him tapping you on
the shoulder, there was somespiritual work. There was some
there, there's always there'salways some transformation, some
some shifting some inside stuffthat he's doing to prepare you
for the tap on the shoulder. Socan you talk to us about that?
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Well, that's so good. Yes. Soit, it started, I believe it
started two years before two orthree years before.
And it's funny that I'm nowlike, in a prayer closet, like
it started in my prayer closet.
It started with my first lady,Pastor Jackie Greene. She said,
you know, where do you guyspray? What do you go meet with
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him, and I didn't have aspecific place. So I took that
and I ran with it. I took all ofthe stuff out of my closet, I
created my own prayer closet,and I would meet with God. Every
morning, I still do to this day,every morning, five o'clock.
It's me and him. before anybodygets up before anybody needs
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why, for mommy, or anything,it's to me and God time. And in
that time, he was breaking offthings that I put on myself.
Identity, that's why Iintroduced myself as I'm a child
of God, I'm a daughter of God, Iam not just, I'm not just a
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teacher.
That's something that gave meit's, it's who I am. But it's
not who I am. Right. Yeah. So inthat process, he was just taking
off layers of who I thought Iwas, who my family thought I
was, my friends thought I was.
And he was really teaching mewho he says I am.
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Come right, through reading theWord through praying, sharpening
my hearing skills, because theywere I didn't believe I could
hear from God. When I didn'tbelieve I could hear from him.
And just spending time with him.
It was things in my life thatwas popping up and I'm like, oh,
okay, God, is that he willconfirm. That's me. And then
there were some things that werepopping up on my techno sound
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like my Daddy, that don't soundlike my father.
And yeah, that wasn't him. So itstarted in my closet. Literally,
and little step by step. Testingout, okay, I want you to do
this. Okay, well, I'm gonna dothis. And I stepped down on the
goal. Okay, okay. We could itwas it was Baby steps. Baby
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steps. That's the key. Yes.
Because we feel like we have todo, go do miraculous things. Go
with a big leap. Go do somethingimpressive. And guys, like no,
no, no. What I want you to do. Ihad another episode that's
coming soon. And she called itone millimeter movement. Oh, one
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millimeter is a smallest measureon a ruler, one millimeter
movement you talk about? Itstarted with prayer. And I just
I have this book that I'mworking through right now. It's
called pray first by ChrisHodges.
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Talks about setting a timeplace, having a prayer routine.
These are things that don't seemdeep enough to be significant,
right? Like we feel like we haveto do the big thing. But
literally, can you set a time tomeet with God? Can you identify
a sanctified place where youwill meet with him? If you will
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put yourself in position youwill learn to hear it? Yeah,
well, we haven't we haven'tanticipated hearing him. I
expect to hear you because Ihave a place and we have a time
and I'm going to be there andI'm going to have that
atmosphere right. I expect thatyou have something to say to me,
so I'm gonna act like I expectyou. Yes.
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Obedience is obedience.
Same no such thing is a smallstep small obedience or big one.
Obedience is obedience andobedience is success. Ooh,
whetherthat or it doesn't it doesn't
matter. Your obedience is asuccess. You obeyed.
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Wait a minute.
Y'all I promise you we're gonnatell you the rest of the story.
Oh, no. Oh, median is success.
Yes, I got that from my firstlike
Yeah, oh, yeah, let's look thisone up. All right now the other
book permission, please get itpromote, free, you need to get
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this book you need to get.
But obedience is the successlet's talk about. So that means
I release the outcome. Yes, Irelease the outcome, I release
the result I release, becausesometimes we are our obedience
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is based on what we feel likeit's gonna have that, after all
obey if what I expect it's goingto come
out obey if I'll get to thetarget or the goal that I have
in my mind. But that's notobedience that's manipulation.
Obedienceis the success is Oh, okay. Yes.
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All right. So God is workingwith you two or three years
before and your prayer closet.
You're teaching loving thebaby's doing what you do loving
your teen, everything about it.
You're in this space, youbasically grew up
professionally. They're like, Iknow they love you. I know they
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love you.
So let's talk about the momentthat you had to start telling
people what God told you.
Yeah, that was tough.
As started with my best friends,so because I knew, Okay.
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I might not get too muchresistance there. Like I was
building it up. I was like, Oh,I think this is and this is
important. You need to getpeople and you need to get
people in your life. Who knowyou love you and really hear
from God as well and push you,right? Because the two my two
best friends. They literallytook the same step years before
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me. So they will I just Iwatched I'm like, oh, okay, and
God bless them and God keptokay. It made it easier for my
Yes. It made it easier for myguests. So I started with them.
They were like, Yes, let's go,let's go. They were really
excited.
I said I started with them. ButI actually started with my
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husband like,and that was a steal. Because
I'm making good money. I've beenteaching 18 years with a
master's degree you do the math.
It wasn't, you know, they sayyou don't get paid, but 18 years
and a master's degree. It's athing. So I asked him, I'm like,
Hey, so God saysthis is my last. And we joke
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about it before I was like, Youknow what, I'm just go ahead.
And I just just go ahead andjust, you know, just not teach,
what do you think? And he'slike, No, absolutely not. You
need a job. But this time wasdifferent. And I think it was, I
came differently. Like, I camewith a knowing like this is it.
So he was like, okay, so Istarted telling, I told my
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colleagues that I work with myteam, my third grade team first.
And, you know, they were like,no, don't leave.
But we got to know each other sowell, I don't even consider them
colleagues. They're reallyfamily. We got to know each
other so well. They knew. Andone of the ladies, she was like
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I knew it. When you walked inthe first day of school. I knew.
I knew this was your last yearlike I knew it. So it was hard.
There was a lot of tears. I hadsome pushback from others.
Like what are you doing? I can'tbelieve you're going to up and
leave these kids like, Don't youcare about them? What about the
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parents? These kids are in yourclass for a reason. Why are you
leaving? Like all of the thingsvalid points? Yeah, points. But
I was like, I have to obey.
Understand it. I know you don'tunderstand it. But I have to
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obey.
And God was just like, do youfit in? I wouldn't bet to go
like yeah, you know.
I mean, I love these kids. Thisis like my favorite class of all
times a parents I have adifferent relationship with
them. I got a good report. Like,everything is like really
beautiful. And he was like, Youdon't think I can do that with
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somebody else?
Excuse me, I literally had tosit my pride down and I was the
I was even like, you know, I'mone of the African American
teachers and, and they need tosee, you know, someone of their
culture and, and you know, andhe was just like, Yeah, I'm God.
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I got it.
I got oh my gosh. Oh, okay, I'mgonna try not to stop you every
time butso much so much. You said
in several of my transitions Godgot me to the point because the
hardest part where the people,right? Because when you're
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really good at what you dopeople want you to stay there
and I'm going to come up withpeople, not bad people is human
doesn't make sense. It's notlogical. You are so good at
this. Why would you walk away,but your heart knows there's
more.
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You know, you know there's more.
And I've learned the hard way ifyou overstay your welcome.
And it won't serve them. Don'toverstay your don't overstay
your season, don't jump out tocourt and don't stay too long.
Because what was good beforewould no longer be good because
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you're out of alignment andyou're out of place. Right? And
exactly what you said, If God istelling me to go, that means
he's assigned somebody elsehere. And if I stay in the way
if I stay in disobedience, I amin the way, so I need to obey I
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need to move. Because if he'scalling me here, he's called
somebody else here. AndI have to get out of the spot.
Okay.
Let me go back because I knowyou're gonna tell us I know you
want to, but let me let me goback. Because when I was when I
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told my dear Edward, that theLord said that it was time for
me to delete.
First of all, he's like, okay,and he just kept Okay. Okay. And
then I came home. I said, Dave,I wrote a letter. He was like,
hold on, that went way, man.
We need to talk.
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I didn't turn it in. But I wantyou to know, I wrote a letter to
the real but here's, here's whatI've learned. It wasn't up to me
to convince him.
That wasit wasn't up to me to convince
him. I said, what I believe Godwas saying.
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God said, leave it alone.
Leave it alone. I didn't bringit up. I didn't pound him with
it. I didn't keep talking aboutit. I said what I said, I said,
what Godand I left it alone. And my
husband will tell you, he cameto me. Wow, remember timeframe.
But he came back. And there wasa night that God didn't allow
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him to sleep.
him to a sermon that he wroteseveral years ago that he never
preached. He never preached, buthe wrote this sermon. And he
went back and found it in hisphone. And by doing this sermon,
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God, God spoke to him. I didn'thave to convince him. It was not
my place. And I didn't put myletter in until God told him.
That's good. I knew in myspirit, but I waited.
I wound it. And when he wasclear, he was clear, clear. I
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mean, he became he became theone like, Let's go my way, man,
whenthe person I'm like, who I can't
breathe.
It'sall good. And then the last one
I want to highlight is yourfriends.
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Don't underestimate who God willconnect you to come on and not
connected you to those friends.
He knew what path each of youwere on fat and knew their
testimony would encourage youwhen your time came. You were
not created to do life alone.
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We're not We're not created towalk through this thing alone.
And not just with your spouse.
Yes, ma'am. But you need unity.
Absolutely. Unity thatunderstands and speaks your
language. You need a space thatyou can go that you don't have
to explain yourself that youdon't have to give all the
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backdrop before you say thething. But they get it just by
being men who know they get itand then walking through this
before you that was allProvidence like that. That was
all God's will. It was onpurpose because he Allah
How'd you to see it before hehad you do it. He's always
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going. So 80 years, September,God says tap, tap, tap, tap into
Melbourne. He didn't say what tomove on to is my understanding.
He just said, let's just saythat. He said it's time for you
to leave. He didn't say that.
This is what you're gonna do.
Okay, that's yes.
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I am a very type a person. Ilike to plan. I like things in
order. Okay, I'm going to dothis first, then I'm going to do
this then I'm going to do thisand this just took me by like I
might wait, okay, all right.
It's my last year. Okay. So whatam I going to do? Here I go
planning, okay. So I'm going tosub I'll be a substitute. I can
go to different schools touchdifferent key, you know, like,
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you know, I can get, you know,all of that I can do all of
that. And then he was like, No,your last year teaching. I was
like,okay, so I was like, God, it was
a real earnest prayer. Honestly,I was just like, Okay, Lord. So
by this time, I was singing Wecame out with our first album,
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We came up with Yes, we did alive recording. And so I'm
thinking oh, we bought Okay,okay, guys, so that's what it's
gonna be right? No, okay. So I'mlike, Well, Lord,
if you could just you ever dothat if you could just prayer if
you couldn't justhelp us out? All right, here's
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what here's what my desire is. Iwould love to do something that
would take my 18 years ofteaching experience is flexible.
So when we do go to places likeAfrica and different places to
see that I don't have you know,it's flexible. I don't have to
find subs are fine. You know,all the things that you have to
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do. If youYou have to take a leave. I was
like, you know, if it could bethat I'll be mighty grateful.
The very next week.
Very next week, I'm at church,do what I do. And I'm approached
by a pastor of the church. Andshe says, Hey, can I talk to you
for a minute? And I'm like, Oh,whatever. I always do that what
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I do. So she's like, Yeah,hypothetically speaking, what
would you say? If, um, we haveyou be like our kids, city
director.
We just got pause right there.
I said, Oh, well, what? What isthat? What does that what does
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that it's just like, you know,so that we can use your 18 years
of experience. And we can, it'sflexible. So if you guys need to
go someplace, you can literallysaying the things that I prayed
in my prayer closet, me andJesus, as it literally said, it
both got chills at the sametime. I'm like, I literally just
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prayed this prayer last week.
And even with that, I said, Letme pray on it. And let me talk
to my husband about it. Andyou'll see, because at this
time, I'm still working, I'mstill a teacher, I'm still full
time. And they're asking forthis. And I'm like, Oh, this is
a lot. This is a lot more.
And so I go home, I'm like, Hey,this is what Long story short,
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God is like, this is it. This iswhat I have for you. In this
season. I am taking you from theeducation system. And I am
placing you here in my church,to do what you've been doing for
18 years and to help thosenow learn about me.
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Public education, I couldn't dothat. I couldn't teach them
about him. Now I'm able to helpour volunteers, pour the love of
Jesus teach Jesus to the babiesto our kids. And I was just
like,God, he just he literally blew
my mind. And even with that, butwe're getting this stuff ready.
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I'm still working, I'm stilldoing the last instruction that
he gave me. I'm getting steadydoing it. I'm teaching I'm
showing up on time, I'm stilldoing everything to the best of
my ability. I write the letter.
I write the letter, I turn itin. And they're like, Well, I
just want you to know, we can'tlet you you're under contract.
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So we have to find areplacement. Before we can
actually let you go. They're notgonna let you go with the words.
They're not gonna let you go.
That was the word that was theirwords, but God work is
different. And long story short,December is the time where we
they have like graduations,right? So first year, teachers
are graduating in December andlooking for work for January.
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There was one candidate thatinterviewed and she is now she's
taking my place. Miss Shay thatshe's taking my place that he's
taking. They found a replacementquick, quicker than I thought I
was like, oh, okay, I'll have toFebruary.
Okay, cool. I can breathe alittle bit. No, it was within
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two weeks. They were like yeah,okay, we found someone I'm like
how long God I will do it toyou. Oh.
Yeah.
But yeah, they found areplacement. She was able to
come with me during my last weekand observe I was able to get
basically give her the reinslike talk to her about the kids
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like this. This little Johnny,little Johnny likes this, you
know, kind of thing. Here's whatI do. Here's how I set up my
plans, all of the things. Heliterally had her in place to
just take my place. So yeah, itwas a it was a scary, easy
transition. Because he doesn'tmiss a detail at all. He doesn't
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he doesn't miss a detail. Right.
So before he called you out,even as he was calling you out
before you wrote the letter,right? He already had you like
you, you went to Africa withForest City and you all
performed with fellas, likethere was already evidence.
There was already evidence ofwhat he was doing before he
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officially released you. Like hedidn't wait until you wrote the
letter. He didn't wait until youhave fully transitioned out.
There was already evidence of anew season. Oh, yeah. And in
that space, if we're notcareful, we'll get frustrated
because those seasons don't seemto fit. Like I want to go to a
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Forest City but now I needsomebody to cover my classroom.
Well, I'm going for this amountof time and and I'm a mom and
I'm a wife and it doesn't seemto fit in. If you're not aware
that you're in transition.
You're not awareerror of the transition, it can
cause frustration and confusionand the enemy will try to make
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you feel like something iswrong, or that you've done
something wrong. Or maybe theplace that you work is wrong,
because you don't realize, butif you stop for a moment, and
just realize, okay, I'm intransition, I don't know what
you're doing God, but it'ssomething new is coming in that
doesn't quite align with whatI've been doing. So I trust you.
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I'm in transition, if yourecognize it, and transition can
be a tough place because there'sa lot of pressure.
Pressure that comes when you'rein transition, you feel like the
walls are closing in on you andsay, there's death.
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You have to heal that old thingto accept that new thing
is death and when you didn'twhen there's death, there's
there's grieving that you gothrough and I grieved.
I grieved.
Yeah. And this wasn't like awell, okay.
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It waslike, I grieved because it was a
death. It was a what, who I sawmyself as now. It's something
brand new. Like,yeah, yeah, it was rough. Let's
talk about grief. Let's talkabout the grieving. Because you
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don't understand, right? Youdon't know that. When you're
leaving something that is goodand that you love truly. Yes,
you need to allow yourself togrieve you. I remember, I
remember August 21. We werepreparing to move our students
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in right, it was freshmen movein. I was there like five
o'clock in the morning, becausewe got to set everything up and
get ready. And I pulled into myparking space into class.
Because I knew that was my lastone. I hadn't.
I hadn't told anybody I hadn'tsaid anything. But I knew that
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was my last freshman moving. Iknew it. It didn't make any
sense. But I just knew it andunder sat there in my car, and I
wept. And I cried. And as I toldmy student leaders that I was
leaving. And as I told my staffthat I was leaving, I just
cracked because I love thesepeople. Yeah, we don't
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understand. It doesn't feel likelove. It doesn't feel like love
to them. Yeah.
But thank you, just like youjust said,
that thing that you love most.
You still have you still teachand babies.
Still, you still teach thembabies. So we often feel like
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God is making us start all over.
We often feel like God is makingus throw away all the things.
I've been doing this for 18years, and I got to start over.
That's like this is not a startover. This is the next level
promotion.
I'm literally,literally this is promotion.
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You've been faithful over a fewdays, you've been faithful over
18 years. I can trust you withthis. Oh, I just felt that.
I just felt that. I just feltthat what is the Scripture
helped me because and promotiondoesn't come from the east of
the West is that description,I'm gonna have a look at it.
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But here's the thing, we expectpromotion to get the traditional
sense. Come on, we stay in afrustrated place because we're
waiting on people to tell ifwe're good enough to tap us on
the shoulder to give us a seatat the table to give us the
promotion. But promotion comesfrom God. Period, elevation
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comes from God. And even if itcomes through your traditional
structure, the people that yougive it
literally, the people didn'tgive it to you is promotion
comes from God. Right.
So you're promoted. So now yougo ahead with that promotion,
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like I felt and I was tellinghim I was telling everybody I
was like, I feel like I'm beingpromoted, but everything around
me is not like my salarypromoted in a
in a more responsibility withless than what I'm used to
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making, but all at the sametime. I feel within everything
that I know I feel like I amowed it. Like what a privilege
In an honor to be chosen assomeone that you can trust to be
over this ministry that is nearand dear to your heart, like,
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that is promotion. He promotedme. And I'm telling you, we lack
nothing. Say that? Nothingbecause that was the biggest
concern. I was just like, Lord,we just bought a new house to
two years ago of 1000 squarefoot house. Beautiful love it.
Right? I'm like, Lord, am Igonna have to give up my he
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said, You won't feel a thing.
You won't feel it.
You won't feel it.
And let me just share with you.
We have not literally myhusband, they offered him a new
job at he works at SavannahRiver site, they offered him a
new job. More more pay all ofthis, right. So I was like, oh
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my god, this is God. Two daysbefore he's supposed to take
that new job, his old job,offered him more pay a step
paying for his student loans,paying for him to go to school.
Literally the amount that wewould lack from me, leaving my
job I'm talking about to thedollar was the thing
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that he gave my husband.
Let me tell me, god,yes, exceedingly abundantly
above all, because you justwanted to replace a salary. You
didn't worry about an amount andguys like, I got you better.
Here's the amount plus theschool plus the loans, plus the
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freedom plus the flexibilityplus the working on the kingdom
plus the freedom to gotraveling.
I got literally, literally,and it's just getting started.
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Listen, I started.
This ain't even a kid. We arejust getting started.
Can you talk to us a little bitabout freedom? Yeah, what that
looks like and what that feelslike? Because comfort is not
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necessarily free. No, it's notthe same thing. Comfort is not
necessarily peace is not thesame thing. Talk to us about
freedom. Man, me freedom we havewe have a relationship was not
free was bound. Try to be peopleOh, you're so loud yourself. And
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I'm like, Okay, well, let mejust try to not be who God
created me to be just to fit in.
So I don't feel awkward orweird. But it was in me learning
who God called me to be where Ifound my freedom. We had this
pastor calm a couple of weeksago, Pastor Manny, and he was
talking about freedom isn't youbeing free to do whatever it is
you want to do? Freedom is beinga slave to God.
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Talk say more, say more. Can youlet the people breathe in and
then say more? Go ahead. Goahead.
It's about being a slave to God.
And that is the real freedomwith God knows exactly who he's
called you to be. He knowsexactly what he wants you to do.
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And when you are in his will,that is freedom. And it's the
safest place you could ever be.
The safest place you could everbe is in the will of God. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. That is freedom tome. And it's a choice for me
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now. I can choose to be free orI can choose to be bound. And
it's an everyday kind of thing.
It's not like I got my free youknow, that's it. That's it. No,
I have to choose every day to befree.
Every day I have to choose I amgoing to be who God has called
me to be. If it makes somebodyuncomfortable, good.
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I'm not going to spit in theface of my god and try to be
something else that he did notcreate me to be.
It's too much work first of all.
Energy is pressure. It's workand it's pressure you are
performing. Yeah, who areperforming and you know what our
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bodies feel it. So we gotsicknesses. We got pain. We got
disease because we areperforming, trying to show up at
something that we're not ourmind is overwhelmed. It cannot
beFree, our soul is overwhelmed.
Our heart is open. Becauseperforming is too much work. He
said, My yoke is easy. My burdenis light. So yes, there's a
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yoke, right? That's the slavepart. Yes, there's a yoke, but
the yoke fits me.
It fits perfectly. It's who Iam. Yes. Literally when I show
up, this is what you get.
This is what you get whetherwhether you're singing or you're
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teaching the babies, are youleading that staff or you are
mommy, Mommying or Wifing orwhatever you doing? This is who
you get, because this is who hemade me to be.
I don't have to have multiplepersonalities.
I'm just, I'm just Shomoneik.
I'm just the Shomoneik Godcalled me to be I don't have to
be this thing for this person.
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This thing for this person, thisthing for this person, I could
just be me. And when I show up,the the me that God created me
to be when I show up, he showsus
that again, say that again. WhenI show up, he shows up that I
the me that He created me to bewhen I show up, he shows up.
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And that's the power you bringin the room.
That's why we lay down low selfesteem. We lay down imposter
syndrome. We lay down peoplepleasing, we lay down doubt. And
we walk in with the powerthat has been given unto us from
the Create. I'm showing upconfident not because I'm cocky,
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not because I'm prideful. ButI'm responsible for the oil that
I carry.
I'm responsible. Yeah. I'mresponsible to share I was I'm
writing this book y'all Pray,pray, pray. Right. I promise
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you. I'm going to declare itthis book is coming out this
year. Yeah, well, luckily, thisbook will be published this
year. And I just recently wroteand I was writing in in tears,
because it's not something thatI've ever said before. It just
flowed through me as I waswriting. And I was writing about
what purpose is and it isliterally the reflection of your
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father in you it is yourspiritual DNA is how you look
like himis how you look like him. So
when you show up in the fullnessof your purpose, your
brilliance, it is you lookinglike your father.
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It is who you are. And freedomchoosing the yoke taking up my
crossis allowing him to shine forth
with no restriction.
Who cousin All right, we couldtalk we got so much to catch up
on but we gotta let people go.
But before we go, there'ssomething else that you're doing
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here lately that God has allowedyou to do on the social medias.
There's something else thatyou're doing. So tell me about
Saturday's with Shazam, how yougot there. And the vision that
God has given you. In Saturday'swith Sean is literally the
randomness thing I've ever done.
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was literally, one day I wassitting in my prayer closet. And
I was like, oh, somebody couldactually glean from it. I'm
actually learning God as ateacher, right? Like, in the
past, I've learned him asfather, I've learned him as a
friend. And now we're in thisseason of me learning him as
teacher. And he was just like, Iwant you to teach what I'm
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teaching you. Whatever I sharewith don't hold it for yourself.
Like there are other people thatare waiting to hear. Or and
their freedom is is locked up inwhat you have to say so big. And
so I was like, oh, okay, so Idid two in one day, right?
That's like, okay, that's whatI'm gonna do. I'm gonna record
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two. And then I'm just gonnapost it on social media. And
that's it. And he was like, No,I don't want you to pre record.
I want you run that week.
Whenever I speak to you. I wantyou to share. I don't want you
to make it anything bigger thanwhat I just want you to obey. It
doesn't have to be this. Itdoesn't have to be this. So I'm
basically literally everySaturday two o'clock. I'm just
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sharing with my viewers. WhatGod has shared with me during
that week so it's fresh.
Everything is fresh. In thisbill I'm doing I have no idea
where it's going. I have no idealike how
Do you how was going to look inthe next? I don't even know what
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the next I don't know if I'mgoing to do it for a year to you
I don't even know I'm literallyjust out here walking with him.
That's That's what Saturdays wasSean is. You don't get it all
you don't you go get you mightget some singing you you'll get
the word for sure and what he'steaching me that's literally all
it is, oh, it's so good. So it'sso good. Because what God is
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telling us to do, you don't haveto do 10 million things.
We're releasing perfection, thatspirit of perfectionism. The
scripture that tells us to beperfect needs to be mature. Come
on shore, it does not mean to bewithout error. And God is
calling us just to walk. Justwalk with him to his walk with
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Him. And He will do the rest.
You don't have to have all thethings do all the things. Most
people will say I need a websiteand I needed this and I need a
camera and I need a light and itgoes like you don't need that.
Do you have a phone? Well, Imean, what? What would you have
in your hand? What?
You've got to make me run?
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No, you got to make me slat runright now.
Work because your language comeoff. What do you have in your
hand? What do you have in yourhouse? That's all ever all you
need is all you have is all youneed. That's it. Go do what I'm
telling you to do. Just do. Solisten, y'all listen.
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Me and my cousin might go screamor run or whatever. Like,
becauseif if if we can really tell
y'all the whole story, come on.
Like if we can really tell y'allthe whole story, like I've told
y'all about Crocketville, I'vetold you, I told you about
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Crocketville.
If we could tell you the wholestory, I really don't have time.
We'll don't have time to tellyou the whole story. We don't
have time to tell you all thethings. Because there's more.
There's so many talent,testimonies, so many testimonies
that have built to this place.
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We're just getting started.
Let's get started.
Getting Started, and we're justgetting started. So my prayer is
that you will hear thistestimony, Revelations 12. And
11 says we overcome the enemy bythe blood of the lamb and the
word of the test ROI testimony.
I need you to hear thistestimony so that your heart can
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be free to open. Yeah, you don'thave to have all the answers.
You don't have to know theoutcome. You don't have to know
how it's gonna work out. If youhave a word. That's all you
need.
That's all you need.
Because our father's trustworthy100 pieces worth worthy cousin
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is there anything else you wantto share with us?
I think we've covered it. Theone thing I do want to say is
you spoke to it, like you seepeople doing things and you're
like wow, they have all thisfreedom they have all this but
let me tell you, you just youjust have to start like you
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don't know the things that westruggle with. And we and we
come out here and we do thislike The Saturdays with Shom It
was literally a just starteverything that you said I went
to God about okay, well I need awebsite. Well, I need this I
need and he was like you usewhat you have in your hand. I
use my phone. Me me my phone inCanva that's it. It doesn't. It
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doesn't have to be perfect. Butyou do have to obey.
Period. Period. That's it.
That's it. How can peopleconnect with you how can they
hear more what's going on withForward City just give the
update? Because I know they Iknow they want to follow your
journey. I know they want tohear from you. So tell them
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absolutely well. I have FacebookShomoneik Brown, Instagram, my
handle is Shomoneik and you canalso follow Forward City Music
or our church Forward City thefor w w RDWDWD. City.
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We will be coming out with a newalbum we did a live recording on
New Year's Eve. And the albumwill be out April 7. So oh
excited about that. God hasblessed me with the opportunity
to bless him through song andit's been
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a dream of mine that is, it wasa hidden dream.
It was a hidden dream. And heuncovered it and just like this
is this is it. So he's such aloving, loving, loving father he
never forgets. And every singleword that he speaks will come to
pass. It will. No matter thetime. Oh, I can go on, but I
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won't. But yeah, that's whereyou can find me.
I could go on to because asyou're saying that like I
remember you and Wade HamptonHigh School Gospel Choir, like,
I remember you and St. JohnBaptist church youth choir. So
this none of this surprises me.
Beautiful. None of this is asurprise. God knew then. Yes. He
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didn't know then he knew now.
Amen. All right, we got to stop,listen, all of her contact
information will be in the shownotes. I want you all to follow
Shomoneik, follow Saturdays withShom, get this encouragement,
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take this journey. Becausesometimes you need to see it
before you do it. Come on.
Sometimes you need to seesomebody else do it. Watch their
journey and it prepares yourheart. It starts to tell the
soil of your heart to prepareyou for what God has for you.
Don't be PBJ there's already onethat's taken care of. Don't be
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shiny. There's already onethat's taken care of. But you
have a brilliance. You have apurpose. You have a peculiar,
unique, innate thing that Godcreated you to do like nobody
else. Nobody can do it like you.
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So you know. You have to showup. Because nobody can do your
thing like you. And we just wantto be examples and testimonies
to you. That you can trust God.
He is trustworthy. He is trustworthy. You can trust Him and
you can obey and obedience isthe success. Yes.
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As always, you know that you arepowerful. You are significant.
And you are so deeply loved. sodeeply. Love always PBJ bio