June 14, 2023 • 66 mins
Welcome to Disrupting Burnout - a podcast where we beat burnout so that you can love your career again! This week on Disrupting Burnout, I’m joined by Tiesha Andrews, my friend and a Woman Who Defines Disruption by providing a space for individuals to discover, launch, and attain their purpose.
Tiesha Andrews is an accomplished Speaker, Trainer, Coach and Certified John Maxwell Team Member who guides others in creating wealth through Real Estate as a Realtor for over 15 years. Tiesha is also the owner of Amplified Impact where she coaches and encourages others to step out of comfort and embrace their God given gifts, talents and abilities to make a direct impact in their life and the lives of those connected to them.
It’s Time To Disrupt Burnout:
02:30 - Express Yourself In All Of Your Opportunities
10:20 - Finding Joy In The Process
21:10 - Surrender The How
30:45 - From Happiness To Joy
42:15 - How To Protect Your Joy
49:00 - Move In The Dark
Tailor-Made Joy Takeaways
● “Everything doesn’t always have to be going right for me to experience joy.” - Tiesha Andrews
● “The joy is on the inside in the contentment of knowing that I’m doing what God has called me to do.” - Tiesha Andrews
● “I’ve operated in more happiness than I have joy.” - Tiesha Andrews
● “The most frustrated I’ve been in this journey is when I’m trying to be like somebody else.” - Dr. PBJ
● “Our uniqueness is what God is desiring to use in us.” - Tiesha Andrews
● “Be free in who God created you to be.” - Tiesha Andrews
● “Joy is only found in the presence of the Lord.” - Tiesha Andrews
● “Joy is a choice.” - Tiesha Andrews
● “Joy is an everlasting fountain.” - Dr. PBJ
● “When I protect what’s coming in, I’m more conscious of what’s going out.” - Tiesha Andrews
● “I define disruption as stepping outside of your comfort zone.” - Tiesha Andrews
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Everything doesn't have toalways be going right? For me to
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experience joy. Everythingdoesn't have to always look
great for me to experience joy.
But the joy is on the inside andthe contentment of knowing that
I'm doing with what God hascalled me to do.
Hey, everybody, I am Dr.
Jackson, but you can call me PBJWelcome to another episode of
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Disrupting Burnout. And I haveanother phenomenal woman to
introduce you all to let me tellyou something, friendship is
something special. And God has away of connecting you with the
people that you need in theseason that you need them. And
today, I have the opportunity tointroduce you all to my friend,
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my sister, and I need to warnyou, I need to warn you because
every time we get together, I'mtelling you, the Holy Spirit
just speaks and moves and itjust we never know where He's
gonna take us or where this isgonna go. So today, we're just
going to let you all easedrop onour conversation. I want to
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introduce you to my sister,Tiesha Andrew, she is a
transformational speaker. She isa coach. She is a trainer. She
is a realtor. She teaches otherfolks how to gain wealth through
a real estate. Listen, she's aphenomenal woman. She's a
powerhouse. She's a woman ofGod. And she's my friend. Yeah.
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Welcome to disrupting burnout.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
I'm so so so excited to be herejust to see your face. Because
every time I see your face, thatsmile is just something to
say same. Y'all just see us wejust send a message. Throughout
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the week, it's a beautifulthing.
It really is talking aboutencouragement, encouragement, oh
my God. Yes. Yeah.
It's amazing. It's almost likewe grew up together. I feel like
we have so much in common. Andwe literally just recently met,
but it feels like we've beentogether for years. So Tiesha,
let's get into it. Yeah, I wantyou now I have my introduction
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of you. And I want you to tellthe people tell the people who
you are,oh, gosh, okay, of course, like
you said, I'm Tiesha Andrews, II'm a mother, I'm a wife, I am a
lover of Jesus Christ. Andtoday, I have a nine year old.
My son's birthday is today. Sohe turned nine today. And I have
a 15 year old next week. And Ihave a 16 year old who is soon
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to be 17 here in a second. Butreally, like you said, I feel
like I wear so many hats. Andit's so funny because I am
always trying to figure outwhich hat which had am I am I
putting on for the moment. Butone of the things that I've
learned is that in all thethings that you named, I feel
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like there's moments where I'mall those things at the same
time. And I'm learning how tooperate as such, and not be
overwhelmed and be just gratefulfor all the opportunities that
God has allowed me to expressmyself. So I thank God for all
those those opportunities. AndI'm just learning how to operate
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in them the way that God hasgifted me to so I'm not taking
any of them off the table,because I love them all. But I'm
just allowing God to teach mehow to really walk and every
last one of them. Oh,girl, you already speaking truth
listening? Because you justsaid, you're learning how to
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operate in all or how to expressyourself and all of the
opportunities. That's right, howoften do we get overwhelmed by
all of our roles by all of thehats that we wear by all of our
responsibilities, and we forgetthat they are opportunities.
That's it,they are opportunities. And I
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think that that is the mainthing that I'm learning. And I
feel like for years, I've alwaystried to have to pick one, well,
I have to be this. So I'm gonnahave to put the other things
down. But really learning thatthe giftings that God has given
me he's giving you they don'tjust flow in one vein or a one
lane he's given them to us toreally be able to touch touch
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people in every area of our lifeeverywhere that He sets us. He
wants us to be able to expressthose gifts and so if we just
say oh no, this is only for homeor this is only for work that
expression of how we sympathizewith people or how we empathize
with people how we love onpeople, how we share how we how
we just treat one another if wejust put them into one lane,
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then we are really stifled andwhat God wants to do in our
alive and, and stifling thosepeople that he wants us to
touch?
You and I had a conversation acouple of weeks ago, about
purpose versus passion, right?
And how purpose is the innate,unique brilliance inside of you,
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right? And passions are thoseexpressions, the way that we
deliver that brilliance to theworld, the way that we look like
our Heavenly Father and Hisspiritual DNA, like, when you
are living in your purpose, yourbrilliance, you look just like
your daddy, right? Yeah, and youjust describe that. So you
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express through motherhood, youexpress through working in real
estate, you express throughspeaking and coaching, you
express through being a memberof John Maxwell's team, you
express through mentoring folksin real estate and spiritually,
but all of those you expressthrough being a wife. All of
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those are expressions of thebrilliance that God gave to tie
you to so all of theresponsibilities that you have
all the roles that you have,they are specifically fitted.
Yeah. They're specificallyfitted for you, like, another
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woman might look and say, Idon't know how she does all
that. Because the yoke is easy,and the burden is light. That
armor was specifically created.
It's a customshrine. That's right. Custom.
Oh, I love that. It's a customfit. I love that it's a custom
fit. And, you know, like I know,whenever you try to put
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something else on your body,that's custom fitted for
somebody else. It never quitefits right kind of the sometimes
the shoulders might droop alittle bit sleeves could be too
long. pant leg could be too longor too short. It never quite
fits right. But like you said,when it's custom made just for
you. It's like, it molds rightto your body. It molds and it
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fits everything about youperfectly, it fits your lead
perfectly. If it's it's nuts,just the way it's supposed to
snug were supposed to it'sloose, we're supposed to lose,
it gives you room to be able tomove. Yeah. You know, move you
along the expression of yourarms, move your feet, it just
when I think about that, whatyou just said that when I think
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about them, it's made its customfor me to be able to, to be able
to flow the way I need to flow,it's not going to be
restricting. Sometimes we couldput something on that belongs to
someone else and make it feellike it could look like it fits
you ever you ever put somethingon and look, it looks like a
fitness a girl you look good.
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And you say to yourself, I lookgood. But if you only knew how
tiny girl I can't breathe.
I say girl shoes them shoestoday, these shoes look good.
And you like it might look good.
But oh, I can't wait to paythese things off. So when is not
quite quite fitted for youperfectly creative for you.
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Handmade, that it will restricthow you can move restrict your
flow, restrict where you can go,because you start feeling a
little uncomfortable.
Come on. So watch this, right?
So it really it restricts yourflow and your movement, right?
It's heavy. Like you can'tfigure out why it's so hard for
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you to get up in the morning orwhy it's so hard for you to do
the things that you're obligatedto do in your life. It's almost
like you're dragging a heavyweight with you. Everywhere you
go. It's because you're carryingsomething that's ill fitted and
watch this to the inexperiencedeye. It may look like a fit.
Right? So we have a sister Hername is Amina Morris, right. And
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Anita is a seamstress. She's adesigner, she she makes all of
her own clothes. And Anita andher brand is needed by design.
Y'all heard her on this podcastbefore a Nita her eye is key. I
might look at you and say, Oh,that's cute. And Anita will look
at you and say, Ah, that's thatwould mean that because the
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shoulders are off the neck islike a Nina has I that I don't
have because of her expertise.
So there may be people in yourlife who are looking at you and
just assuming that your life isjust beautiful. They're looking
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at you and then assuming thatyou got it all together, like
what do you have to complainabout? Your life is all tailor
made, but you know that you'recarrying something that is too
heavy for you. You know thatyou're wearing something that is
ill fitted for you, you knowthat you are walking around with
something that God didn't assignto you and when you get into
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your flow When you get into yourflow, it doesn't mean every day
is gonna be perfect. It doesn'tmean every day is going to be
perfect. But it does mean thatyou have freedom and flow. And
you know, you're right whereyou're supposed to be. Yes.
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So you to talk to us a littlebit about joy. Because I know
that joy is something that youshare, and you talk about joy in
the process. So as we're talkingabout this free flow, and this
tailor made, tell us about joyin the process.
So that's, that's perfect tiesinto something that you just
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said, when you talked about howother people may look at you.
And when they look at you, itlooks as though the garment is
perfect. It looks as though itfits correctly. When we allow
other people to tell us, ordirect us or guide us and saying
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that we're flowing, and thatlooks good on you, but you know,
it's tight, you know, it doesn'tlook right. But you are
constantly allowing other peopleyou're taking in their know, you
don't know, keep on doing that.
But you know, you need to takeit off. Okay, and you will keep
on wearing it because no, theyexpect me they expect me to wear
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this, this is what they'reexpecting me to put on. Even
though it's a little tight inthe arms. This is what they're
expecting me to put on. So I'mgonna put it on anyway, when we
do that, and so Speaking formyself, when I allowed people to
put things on me that arethey're not they weren't a
custom made for me. It wasn'tcreated for me. But because of
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expectations, I allowed peopleto let me they didn't they
suggested it. And I took off thehanger put it on, come on, they
suggested it. Oh, you're good atthat. You should do that. Oh,
yeah, no, keep on doing that.
No, that's the direction you togo in for progress. And into to
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continue to grow. And for thefor this and for that to happen,
you need to do this and go inthat direction. And when you
when you take out the hanger andyou put it on and you know what
kind of like, I don't think thisis my daddy didn't make this
one. My dad didn't make thisone. But you say, I guess maybe
if I push the sleeves up alittle bit, they won't be so
long. That'll work on our rollthe roll my waistband down. But
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I don't won't feel so so long mypants won't for so long. And in
that is where I noticed that joywas fleeting. Joy was fleeting
happiness, yes, bounce ofhappiness. Because we can find
happiness in so many differentthings, we can find happiness in
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the accomplishments, we can findhappiness in the accolades, we
can find happiness and walkingup on the stage and getting the
certificates we can findhappiness in the hand class, we
can find happiness in the highfives and the good jobs, we can
find happiness and all that. Butfor me, I knew that the joy was
missing, the joy was missingbecause I was wearing something
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and trying to carry somethingthat wasn't made for me. And so
when I looked at the differencesbetween just in my own life, joy
and happiness, I had to make aoh, I had to have a real talk
with myself and understand thatI wasn't continually living in
or continuously living in joy,but living in bouts of
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happiness, bouts of confusion,how sadness, disappointment, but
not joy. And in the differencefor me is that enjoy. Everything
doesn't have to always be goingright? For me to experience joy.
Everything doesn't have toalways look great for me to
experience joy. But the joy ison the inside and the
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contentment of knowing that I'mdoing with what God has called
me to do. Knowing that I amlistening to his voice, and then
I'm going back to Him because Hecreated me and saying God is
this this is the right fit. Thisis what what you you gave to me
to put on this is how youcreated me and understanding
that, wow, what I do, what he isformed created me to do may look
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different than the other personand what they're doing. It's
okay. It's okay because Hecreated me to do this, the
expressions that we alreadytalked about, and he created
them for their purpose in theexpressions that they're
presenting to the to themarketplace. So the world's or
their family, and so those thatthey have proximity to. And so
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that's something that I have hadto really, really, really
walkthrough really walkthroughand it's been eye opening for
me, because what I realized isthat I operated and more
happiness I have joy. I'veoperated and more happiness than
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I than I have joy. And I wasn'tconfusing the two, I just didn't
know how to step out of the laneof always seeking, being happy.
And understanding that God wantsto give me continuous joy and
his presence. And that that'ssomething that a couple, it
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actually was just a couple ofweeks ago, really brought me to
tears. Because I felt like Iknow who my Creator is. And here
I am telling you that what youcreated just for me, isn't good
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enough. And I want I want thatdress.
Okay, stop. Pause. We got a partright there. We, oh, my gosh, we
got apart. Because as you weredescribing the difference
between joy and happiness, whatI heard was compromise,
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compromise, compromise daily,daily. And sometimes as women,
we're taught that culture, we'retaught by family that we meet,
we have to compromise. Yeah,right. You take what you get,
and you don't get upset kind ofstuff. You take what you get,
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and you don't get upset. Butwhen we have a father who has
tailor made a life for us, andthen what you just said, of
looking at that perfect father.
Yeah. And saying what you madefor me, is not good enough. I'm
good enough. Because when wecompromise, in essence, that's
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what I feel like I'm saying whenI'm not gonna speak for anybody
else. But when I compromise.
That's what I feel like I'msaying, what you what you took
time to fashion, what you tooktime to breathe life into.
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I want that. I know you tooktime. And I know that you, you
created this in your image. ButI like what you made over there.
I like the world that they'regoing down. I like that path
that you have them on. And I'mnot ashamed to sit here and say
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that years ago, I would havebeen ashamed to say that because
I would have felt like it mademe look as though I'm jealous or
what want to want to covetsomething that somebody else
has. But it has nothing to dowith jealousy or even wanting to
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cover with Miles has for me.
It's not understanding what hehad for me. Yes. It had nothing
to do with being jealous ofsomeone else are wanting what
they had. It was just truly notunderstanding fully what he had
for me. Yeah. And so and notknowing that. I was looking at
what a lot of other people hadon.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that that'swhat I felt in my heart, as you
were saying that. I trulybelieve that there are women
listening right now who don'trealize that there's a tailor
made life for you. Yeah. Thatthere's there are specific
steps, specific experiences,specific roles, specific
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passions that you were created,for. He created you for the work
he created. There's no lifewithout God. So regardless of
the circumstances of your birthyour year, you're here. And if
you're here, he created you forspecific life for specific work
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and the life that He created youfor is the perfect life force,
right? That's right. You know,it's funny, because my mom was a
seamstress. And my mother metAnita. And it was beautiful when
they met but my mom has sewnever since I was born, she made
her first garment when I wasborn. That's when she first
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started sewing. And I've watchedmy mother so through the years
very, very accomplishedseamstress. And I remember when
people would come to her shop toget garments made and they would
come in with a pattern that theybought at the store and they
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were Hold a pattern and say,This is what I want. And they'd
have their pattern and theirmaterial. And my mom would say,
okay, she will look at thepattern. And she would say, this
is nice, this is gonna look goodon you and I, and she'll set the
pattern to the side, and she'llsay, Come on over here. And they
also want you to use a pattern.
And she goes, this pattern is isgreat to look at. But I'm gonna
make my own pattern because Iwant it to fit you, for you.
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Because this pattern, I know yousaid, your size 12. And this is
what the pattern is a size 12.
But this size 12 doesn't fitevery size 12 The same way. And
I watched my mom how she wouldhave to craft clothing for
individuals. And when it didn'tfit, right, she would sit there
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and patiently take it apart anddo it again. So that it was just
the right fit when they left. Sothere's so much in that when you
talk about the right fit. And wetalk about, you know, even the
look on people's face whensomething fits right. The
confidence that we have when itfits right. It's so much in that
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it's just so much in that weit is it is in. So let's talk
about a little bit more, becausewhat you just described of how
your mom served her clients, tosay, I see this picture that you
brought me, I see the vision andit's a beautiful vision. Now
step over here. And we're goingto recreate this vision to
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specifically fit you what hewhat God has called us to. He
didn't call you to do it likeanybody else. He didn't call you
to do it like Taisha Andrus, hedidn't call you to do it like
PBJ, it may be similar, it maybe similar work, but it will be
specifically fitted to you. AndI'll confess how you should
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like, especially as I am walkingout this vision, like once I
left my job, and I'm walking outthis ministry, I have looked at
coaches and others and try topattern myself against others
who are also walking out theirvision. And the most frustrated
I've been in this journey iswhen I'm trying to be like
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somebody I try. When I releasethat when I release that and
just go into worship and go intoprayer and say God, what do you
want of me? What do you wantthis to look like? That is the
most peace? That's when Isurrender when I surrendered the
house, watch this when Isurrender the house? Because the
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reason why looking at otherpeople is because how do you
want me to do it? How do I doit? How do I do it? How do I do
it? And God's like, I don't needyou? I don't need you to I know
how I don't need you out heresearching and scraping. I'll
need you I'll hit striving. Iknow how I know how, let me
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create this vision to perfectlyto perfectly fit you. Taylor may
need Yeah. Ohfor you. You know, it's so easy
to get caught up in looking atother people to see how see, to
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try to figure out the how it'sso easy to get caught up and
trying to figure out the how.
And one of the things that Ithink is just so good is that
when we do what you just saidit's just surrender and just go
into worship and say, God, Ijust thank you for the vision. I
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thank you for the vision, thatpart. And when he begins to show
you that, how Isn't itinteresting how it never lines
up with anything that you sawanything that you've when you
were trying to do your own yourown market research in line with
nothing that you saw, and you'relike, this is perfect for me.
And he's like, yeah, yeah, itis. And you know, it is perfect
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for you, you know, and andthat's one of the things that we
have to learn is that ouruniqueness to our uniqueness is
what God is desiring to us andto us and us our uniqueness. You
know, he doesn't he he doesn'twant us to be a like, he's
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called us to draw people to him.
And he has a unique way that Hewants us as individuals to do
it. Because I'm going to draw acrowd of people you're going to
draw the people call it to you.
It very well is not going to bethe same crowd because the
uniqueness that he puts in youis going to speak to their heart
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because he's going to prep theirheart and have them ready when
you hear Dr. PBJ come you knowshe's gonna drop she's he's
drawing them And so I love thatabout God that it's, it's so
it's not cookie cutter. It'sunique. And whenever we can
embrace that uniqueness, I'mgoing to share something that
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just, it's so funny because Ijust got it this was late last
night or this morning, I can'tremember what time I got up and
grabbed my phone to write this.
But and, and I was laying in mybed last night, early this
morning, and God began to showme a book. And in the book, he
took a piece of paper out. Andwell, a piece paper ripped out
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the book and began to float. Andguy just began to mentor to my
heart this morning, that you'relimiting yourself because you're
trying to operate within theconfines of this book. And when
he ripped the page, it said, beyourself, be yours. You don't
have to be uniform to this book,be yourself. And he ripped the
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pay in and I just thought thepage are ripping out and the
pages floating, just floating.
And to me for me, because it'ssomething that I've been praying
about it again was confirmationto me that I want you outside of
the box, I want you outside ofthe norm get outside the book,
get you don't I see all thesepeople, I see what they're
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doing. I see you're trying tofollow instructions, you're
trying to, you know, followsuit, you're trying to do it
right, you're trying to makesure that you follow the
algorithm, you're trying to doall the things, it's okay. And
so for me, it will just assemblefor me to be free and who he's
created me to be. I'm takenripping the page out your flow
and be free and who I createdyou to be.
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This is free in me right now, inthis very moment. So I'm gonna
tell on myself. Because Isometimes I struggle with where
do I fit God? Like, I'm aprofessional woman. I've been a
professional for 25 years,right? So some people come to me
for the professional aspect. Howdo I lead better my career path,
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you know, challenges in the workplace, specifically in
education, because that's mycareer field. But I'm also Holy
Ghost filled, like, I am apreacher. I am a minister,
right. But I don't always feelthat I fit completely in the
church, just in the church,right? Because I have this
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professional hat as well. Andsometimes I feel like I need to
be one or the other. And justrecently, so even specifically
concerning my LinkedIn, right,so on my LinkedIn, I share clips
of these podcast episodes. AndI'm like, ain't nobody talking
about Jesus only. No, I'mtelling myself like, within the
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last week, I was thinking, well,maybe I need to do one set of
content from length. And anotherset of content for this. And
this part will be ministry andthis part will be professional.
But as you are speaking, I hearthe Lord saying, Nah, no, do
what I told you. This is tailormade is tape, because I'm all of
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these things. I am all of thesethings. And that
compartmentalizing of who weare. Well over here, I'd be a
minister. And over here, I'll bea professional woman. And over
here, I'll be a mom and a wife.
And over here that isexhausting.
It's exhausting. It'sexhausting.
So it is freeing me. In thismoment as you talk about this
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vision and Tasha is a dreamer,you're, she's a dreamer, God
speaks to her dreams. And asyou're sharing your dream and
your vision, gods like no, weyou will not, you will not bow
to the algorithms you will notbow to the pattern of the world.
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You are a minister who is calledto the field of education. You
are a minister who is called tocorporate and the people that
are assigned to me will hearthis call and they will connect
I don't have to pretend that I'mnot that right. I don't have to
pretend and even when I go in sowhen I go in to speak at a
university or when I go in tospeak at a company I can't
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always say cheeses you know Ican't always everything I'm
teaching comes from the word ofGod comes from the word every
man and that's all I need. Andby the way for him that's what
you need to write. It's stillministry no matter where I am.
And as you were speaking, I hearthe Lord saying, no, no you
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being exactly this pattern isspecifically for you. And there
is somebody out there whostraight corporate and that's
all they are and if that's whatyou need, you need to call Bam.
But if you need breakthrough inyour corporate, if you need
breakthrough in your universityif people need to be free, so
that they can be their best,best and be brilliant that when
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you call PBTS. Fine.
That's right. That's right. Andbe okay with that. To be okay
with them calling the otherperson, that's okay. And that's
okay. That's okay. That's okay.
Because what you're gonna getover here.
And when I try to do thoseassignments, they never fit.
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They never fit. They never neverfit. Oh, never fit
Taisha, you were talking abouthaving trouble moving from just
having happy moments into joy.
So can you talk a little bitabout how you make that
transition from just happymoments or being stuck and happy
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to living in joy.
So one of the things that I havebeen making a number one
priority for myself, is to stayout of people's faith. It's a
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gospel more, say more.
For me, stepping away fromalways looking for happiness,
but pursuing joy has looked likeme having to say no to so much
of the conversations withpeople, no to so many of the
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gatherings or outings withpeople. And going back to
prioritizing what I know is mostimportant, which is me spending
time with the Lord. Because whatsometimes we fail to realize is
that joy is only found in Hispresence. Come on. I can go with
my friends and find happiness. Ican spend time with my husband
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and find happiness. But joy isonly found in the presence of
the Lord. So when I prioritizespending time with the Lord,
rather that's in my word andprayer and just meditating on
something the Lord has given me,and just digging deeper into it
to see what does he speak intomy spirit. That's where the joy
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is found. That's where the joyis found. That's what I'm I'm
realizing for myself. And Ithink that for me, the
misconception has been that Iwas doing enough. And what I had
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to realize is that is a reallythat's how we can say I spent
enough time with the Lord whocome on, I spent enough time and
my word, I spent enough timepraying today. The word tells us
to pray continually withoutfaith, then yeah, all throughout
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the day. There's never too much.
You know, we've heard that attimes, but you don't want too
much. But for me, and for me toenjoy joy, and be able to reside
there. There's never too much.
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And what I'm what I'munderstanding what I'm learning
is that it doesn't matter whatanybody else's Walker looks
like. It doesn't matter whatanybody else decides to do what
they're in their relationshipwith the Lord. This is my
personal relationship with theLord. And while I thank my
parents, because they raised usknowing I'm talking about me and
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my siblings, knowing that therelationship is what's
important. The relationship withthe Lord is what's important.
But it wasn't until just severalyears ago when I really had to
understand that I wasn't doingenough. And so that's where I am
now when I think about justunderstanding what the joy of
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the Lord really looks like. Forme, it's just knowing how to put
aside things that will be happy,you know, causing happiness but
seek joy. And it's a choice. Youknow, Joy is a choice. Yeah. And
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I have to understand thateverybody's not choosing joy.
And that's okay. That's that'stheir decision to make. But I I
know that I need Joy especiallyfor you need joy, especially for
a word God is willing to takeyou for the people you want you
to to reach. You need joy, weneed joy. We don't need bouts of
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happiness and ups and downs, weneed to be able to show that
there is a that we serve a Godthat is able to no matter what's
going on in our life, we havejoy on the mountaintops. And we
have joy when we're in thevalley. Yeah. And we have to be
able to demonstrate that. Andthe only way that we can is when
we spend time in the presence ofthe Lord. And so that's, that's
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what I'm, that's what I'mlearning. Even the more as I get
older, and as I experiencedcertain things in my life, I'm
learning even the more howimportant that joy is for me.
Yeah, when you were talkingabout, you know, that phase
where you felt like, Oh, I'mdoing enough, right? It's almost
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what came to my mind is,according to who like, who is
your standard? Who is it? Who isyour standard? Because if you
compare yourself to otherpeople, while I'm doing more
than so and so I'm doing morethan why Sony, why is a fallible
person, your standard? Yeah,that's not your standard, God is
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your standard, you want to beperfect as he is perfect, that
word perfect means mature, youare to be mature as he is
mature. Now, according to whattypisch is doing, not according
to what PBJ is. Because we arewe are imperfect, do not compare
yourself to us. We are not yourstandard, he is the standard.
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And if he is the standard, thatmeans we will never meet it. I
press towards the mark. It's acontinual press. It's a
continual press, because thatstandard is not reachable as
long as we're in this fleshsuit. Right. But we continue to
pursue it, not because he keepsmoving the marker, not because
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he needs us to pursue it. Butbecause we need to pursue it.
That's right. That's where thejoy is found is in His presence
andthe press. It's in his presence.
That's the only place joy isfound. Comes now one of many.
Okay, so you are an accomplishedrealtor. Like you're not playing
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no games, right?
We don't play games over here.
Accomplished realtor, you havemade money, you have won awards,
you have mentored and trainedother people. So you mean to
tell me joy wasn't found in anyof those accomplishments?
Wow. Wow, as you put it likethat? Oh, happiness was found in
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him. That's right. I wasextremely excited, Happy
Happiness was found in him.
Who but joy. When you put itlike that, I will say that.
That's those times where you youconfuse happiness with joy. And
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they're just not the same. Andthey're just not the same. And I
think one now that you bring itup in that way, one of the
reasons why I know that therewas happiness there but joy was
lacking was because it goes backto the expression of gifts that
mean you have had conversationsabout and all those things. I am
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expressing the giftings that Godhas placed within me to do those
things as I serve other people.
But at the same time, for somereason, I felt as though I had
to compartmentalize myself goesback to what you said. We're
going to be this real estateagent and I'm operating in this
van then over here, I want toencourage people in the Lord and
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then over here I want to do hadI understood that they all go
together Yeah. Then then I knowthat there would have been joy
throughout that journey. And notjust thoughts of happiness. But
like it goes back to trying tocompartmentalize it.
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It does and and I wanted to sayit that way because listening to
this podcast, we have manyaccomplished women accomplished
women who love God, listen tothis podcast. And sometimes we
feel like what the nextaccomplishment will fill this
void the next degree The nextaward the next major sale the
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next accomplishment if I canjust get to the next one. This
one didn't do it. But if I canjust get to the next one. it'll
fill that void and as women whohave accomplished much praise
the lord thank God for as womenwho have accomplished much we're
here to tell you that only Godoh my God and even when he said
it like say it like that. You'rehappy there but then what else
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is being neglected or what elseis being what else are we not
paying attention to our whatelse are we not? Don't have our
hands on? because we're focusedhere on on the accomplishments
on the next accomplishment, orthe next thing, or the next
award or, or the next feat,whatever that looks like, and
sometimes we can find ourselvesin that in that mode of just
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going, going going. And so evenfor me, and that, I realized
that yes, accomplished here, butwhat what else was not getting
my attention? Is Was it mymarriage? Was it my children?
Was it my own self care? Takingcare of taking care of my mind
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taking care of my body? So wealso have to look at what are we
saying no to while we're overhere saying yes. Because I feel
like when we sit down, like yousaid earlier, and we surrender
it all and say, Okay, God, showme how to do this show, show me
how to do this. Show me how todo this. And he started showing
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me how to do this and how to dohow to be the real estate agent,
how to be the wife, how to bethe mother, how to be the coach,
how to be the instructor how tobe the speaker. He had to show
me how to do that. So thatagain, we weren't
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compartmentalizing so that therecan be joy found and all of it
tailored me and not feeling likeI did this now let me go do
this. Let me find the energy togo do this. Yeah,
Joy Joy is everlasting fountain.
Yes. So we don't have to go findthe energy there's a wellspring
flowing and even you mentionedearlier even on whether the day
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is good or whether the day istough. You have an everlasting
fountain on the inside of you sowe no longer allow our emotions
to be tugged from one side tothe other. And if we do and if
we do, we can quickly come backto center Yeah, because of this
wellspring of joy Taisha how dowe protect our joy how do we
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maintain joy because life belife and
all day long? All day long. Ohmy gosh. Ooh. Transparent moment
before we hopped on Oh my I wasfeeling some kind of way because
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my morning It started off andthen it kind of it it tried to
derail it so and I could feelmyself going getting agitated
and a little irritated,irritated and I did I had a
little bit of attitude thismorning. No one little I had an
attitude this morning. Thismorning I think that one of the
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things that to protect us onthat roller coaster ride is one
is we have to protect what wetake in protect what we listen
to what do we listen into? Partsprotect what we're seeing, what
are we what are we reading? Whatare we putting our eyes on? What
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what are we looking at? So tome, I know that when I protect
what's coming in I'm moreconscious of what's going out.
Yes, man.
When I know that I've taken timeto again, pray, read read my
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read my word, whether it's ascripture or a several
scriptures or whatever God layson my heart to do when I do
that. And I'm protecting what wecall our gates. Yes. When I'm
protecting them. I am able toacknowledge when I'm going
sideways quicker. Yes, ma'am.
And bring it back. Yeah. So forme, I think that it's more so
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becoming a matter of protectingwhat's coming in. So then I can
be more cognizant of what'sgoing out and not just what's
going out my mouth but just justmy body language. What's going
out in general? Yeah, because Ican feel when I start feeling
like that the Holy Spiritquickly comes in and quickens me
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and brings me right back likeyou said to center and for me
bringing that rep right back tocenters bring me right back to
gratitude to st God, but I thankyou. I thank you and forgive me.
Yes.
And I thought I thank you. Ithank you for even just bringing
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it to my attentionYeah, yeah, you what you're
describing is, this is not awalk of perfection. We're a
beaut that this is not a walk ofperfection. This is not a, I'm
floating on clouds, and I'mjoyful every moment and I never
get an attitude and I never getwhat I call a little crunchy. We
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all get a little crunchy. Okay.
But but the key is to recognizeit, yeah. To be aware enough of
myself and my soul, to knowwhere I'm going in a different
direction and not to continue inthat direction. But disrupt that
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pattern, and get back to peace.
Get back to peace, get back toJoy, get back to gratitude,
right. So this walk with God,it's that it's a walk. So walk
with God and your children aregonna frustrate you, your spouse
is gonna frustrate you, thepeople that you work with, like
things are gonna happen, yourschedule is not gonna go the way
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you plan, like, things are goingto happen, things are going, and
even more serious things maycome up in my brother. But the
key, the key is to recognize tohave that connection with Holy
Spirit, that will, that willconvict your heart and said, No,
come back, come back. Come back.
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Don't go that direction. Don't,don't meditate there. Don't
focus there. Don't stay there.
Don't, don't stay there. Youmight go there. But you don't
have to stay there. Don't staythere. Come back to peace. Come
back to two. So come back to thespring. Come back. Scripture
that says guard your heart withall diligence for out of it
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flows to issues of life, itliterally means to set up a
guard around your soul is nottalking about the heart that
beats but it's talking aboutyour emotions, your will Yeah,
your mind set up a guard aroundyour soul so that you know that
you have some control overwhat's coming in. Because the
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key is not the key is not what'scoming out. It's what's coming
in. Is was what goes in, man,they gotta guard what goes in,
in order to manage what comesout.
And you know that what thatthat's gonna look different for
everybody what it takes for youto guard. You're so maybe
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different than what it takes me.
Yeah. And that goes back to thatquestion of who decided what
enough was. Because what what isgoing to take for you could be
different than me, I might haveto go through some extra steps.
And it might look like fasterthan, you know, weekly, it may
look like fast. And every timethat I'm prompt to fast, and you
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know, I I keep communion on mydesk, because I know that there
are times that I am prompt, it'snot every day. It's not every
day, but there are times whenthe Holy Spirit says, Go
downstairs, get a communion cup.
Pray, remember, and I have tocome down here and I will get
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one. And I will sit with it. AndI will thank God and I will
pray. And I know for me whenI've when I'm obedient to do
that. I can feel the energy inmy body shifting. Yes, man. Out
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of the obedience of doing it. Ican feel the energy in my body
shifting. But what if I say no,I'm not. I got other things to
do. I don't have time to go. I'malready running late. I got
something else I need to do. Idon't have time to do that
today. It's in those momentswhere it can go anyway. Yeah.
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But being willing to be obedientto acknowledge the Holy Spirit
saying, Oh, come on. Come onback. Come on back. Let's get
this let's get this right. Justfeels right. You know, so
obedience plays a big part. Andthe joy that we choose are not
come on the joy that we chooseor not. Oh Tiesha. I will
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probably go on keep talkingbecause that's what we do. But
we do have to let the folks gobefore I want you to tell us how
do you define disruptionso the way that I define
disruption is stepping outsideof your comfort zone. And the
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reason why I define disruptionthat way is because I feel that
the minute that you decide tomake a choice to step outside of
your comfort zone and allowyourself to be led by the Holy
Spirit for me. Anything isliable to happen. Anything is
live and a half. And so when wethink about the disruption we're
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thinking about, I think aboutthings being shaken up. I think
about things just beinginterrupted for the good. And I
think that when God takes us outof our comfort zone, he's like,
we're about to disrupt somethings. We're about to shake it
up. I got you all come throughall I'm about to I'm about to
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have you step into some unknownterritory, so that you can shake
some things up and becomedisruptive. Yes, that's a good
way. So that's what disruptionmeans for me.
Okay, so I need to ask you onemore question. And if you want
me to, if you want me to cutthis, I will. But it's been
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bugging me the whole time. SoI'm gonna be obedient. A few
weeks ago, you had a dream abouta dark room? Yes. Would you mind
sharing that dream in thatrevelation with us?
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Soyeah, a couple of weeks ago, I
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had a dream that God had givenme and I was in a warehouse
looking wrong. Similar to yourCostco on your Sam's warehouse,
and I walked into this room, andit was dark. And so you can
imagine what a big warehouselooks like when it's dark, you
can't see anything, you just canfeel this massive room. What as
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I began to walk into the room, Ican see that there were people
of all ages, children, adults,and they were standing still
like mannequins is what theylook like, and the train, they
were frozen in place. Andwhatever activity they were
doing, they were frozen in thatin that place. So everybody was
doing something different. Andthey were all frozen. And I
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began to walk through thiswarehouse, and just really
wondering why everybody wasstanding still, but also more so
when and why the lights wereoff, because it was such a big
space. And as I began to walkpast the people and look at them
in their state, I also began towalk to the wall. So I can turn
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lights on just really at thattime was for me to be able to
see what was in that room. Andso I began to turn the lights
on. And you know, in a bigwarehouse, how lights kind of
come on, and sections that kindof come on and roll. So all the
lights didn't come on at onetime. But as the lights began to
illuminate and shine in thebuilding, people began to start
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moving, they began to resumewhatever activity it was that
they were doing. So as thelights progressively turned on
throughout the warehouse,everyone just came back to life.
And nobody saw me. But I waswatching them. And I noticed
that in the far corner of theroom, the light switch had not
been turned on yet. And so Iwalked over there and there was
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a gentleman and he was holding abasketball. And I flipped the
light switch in the room that hewas in. And he began to just
start that bounce in thebasketball. And I stood there.
And I looked at all thesepeople, and here they are moving
and during their regularactivities. And I just began to
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wonder why. Why were they evenin the dark in the first place?
Why were they in the dark in thefirst place? And I didn't know
and I didn't have an answer forit at that time. But what I knew
was, it was time for me to go.
So I started turning the lightsoff in the warehouse. And as I
turned the lights off in thewarehouse, I noticed that
everybody froze again. And so Iturned all the lights off and I
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left and I got up that morningand I laughed a little bit
because I felt like maybe apizza drink. Maybe what was that
really about? And I laughed alittle bit about it. But as I
got up that morning, and I gotready to go I was headed to a
Pilates class. And the HolySpirit says I would drive and
turn around and go back home.
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And I said to myself go backhome like I'm going to Pilates
like I'm not going back home andthen Holy Spirit said again, go
back home. One of the thingsI've been praying about previous
to this was about obedience.
When God tells me to dosomething to just do it, and not
need to have so many answers orreasons behind why. And the
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second time the Holy Spirit saidturn back around and go home. I
began to compromise I was likeI'm gonna lose this Pilates
credit. Pilates credit is money.
I don't want to if I turn aroundand I lose his Pilates credit
you better be good when I gethome now that's just my my humor
to myself as I was talking outloud to the Holy Spirit, but I
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did I turned my car around thesecond time that he told me to
my car when I turned my cararound, and I came back home,
not really knowing what I wascoming back home to do, I
thought maybe okay, we're goingto some stretches in the living
room or something. So as I walkin your house Hotspurs, get your
journal, and just go sit on thefloor in the living room. So I
get my journal book, and I gosit on the floor in the living
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room, I'm just sitting there.
And he, I could feel his spiritslike no music, no talking, I
want you to sit here and listento me. And as I sat there,
listening, just sat there for aminute. And it's one of the
things that I struggled with ishow to quiet myself, just quiet
myself to just listen to listento what the Lord is telling me
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and what Laura's directing me tobut on this day, I felt a sense
of calm, I just felt like mywhole body was quiet. And still
even my mind was quiet. And Ididn't feel any, you know, all
the the noise. And as I satthere, the Holy Spirit began to
minister to me instead, andbrought back the dream back to
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my remembrance, every singlepart of it. And as he began to
show me the dream, and show methat the people who are not
moving, the Holy Spirit said,You need to tell the people that
they can move in the dark. Andat first, I didn't really
understand I just began to writeeverything that the Lord was
given me. And he said, tell thepeople that they can move in the
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dark. And when I began to thinkabout that, and so Spirit began
to reveal it more to me. Notjust that he showed me myself,
but he showed me so many reasonswhy people get stuck in the
dark, we get stuck in the darkone, the reasons that we talked
about today, we're trying tolive up to other people's
expectations, and we get lost,that's dark, we're lost, we get
lost in darkness there. We'redisappointed. We are confused.
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We don't know which way to go.
We've had things happen in ourlives of that has caused trauma
beyond anyone's that they caneven think anything imaginable.
We've had experiences that havecaused us to get stuck. We've
had things happen to us that wecan't even explain. And so we
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just stopped, we freeze withfear. And the Holy Spirit said,
tell them that they can move inthe dark, we don't have to get
stuck in one spot when we feellike we lost our way or or we're
confused or we're stuck. But wecan still move. But the key is,
and that is that. One reason whywe don't move is because we get
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so caught up in how the HolySpirit showed it to me is we get
so caught up and being able tosee everything with our eyes, we
get so caught up with the needto have to see the next step.
And I knew that not only was hejust talking to me to share this
with other people, but he wastalking directly to me. Because
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we feel like I can't takeanother step unless I can see
it. Unless I know exactly whatthis is going to turn out to be
if I if I can see what you'redoing God then yes, I'm going to
move. If I can see the door toTurn the doorknob, I'll go out
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the door. If I can see thestaircase I'll take the step and
host purchase the cancer remindme of the scripture that we walk
by faith not by sight and thatthere is nothing that he has
called us to do that needs ourNatural Vision. Everything that
he has called us to do is byfaith. If we need it, if our
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Natural Vision was required, andwe wouldn't need a savior, we
there will be no need for him tosend the Holy Spirit to lead us
and guide us in all things.
Because I don't need somebody toguide me when I can see for
myself, come on. And so for mewhen God just began to reveal
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that dream to me, there'sthere's so many people and
myself included I was in thatplace where I had to see to move
because it was dark, not darkand hear me because I'm not
talking about dark because ofsin. I'm not talking about it's
dark because you're living thislife of sin. You're living you
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know this life that you know youweren't created to live. I'm
talking about just life. Yeah.
As you stuck in that that feelsdark. I remember when my brother
died that had nothing to do withme limit and said that was dark.
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Yeah. I lost someone that meanteverything to me. That was dark.
I was stuck. I was stuck. I wasstuck. I didn't move for a long
time. If I didn't move, I didn'tknow how to move. So when we
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find ourselves in places likethat, from Lawson, and loss of
job, grieving things that youthought should have been better,
not, whether it's a job, whetherit's, it could be anything
because we can grieve anythingthat we that we lose. All those
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things get can get us to a placewhere it gets dark around us,
and we get stuck and we stopmoving. But in that dream, when
God showed it to me and revealedit to me, at the end of the day,
what I know, he wanted me to getup off that floor with are two
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things. Don't let mycircumstances the situation or
what it looks like to stop mefrom moving.
And the second thing was,remember, I don't need eyes on
this journey. I just need faith.
And in that faith, I need tocontinue to stay in his presence
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so I can hear his voice so I canrecognize it. Because he's
speaking to us. And if I justwalk in that direction
if I just walk, continue to walkin that direction. It's going to
get live. I'm not going to be inconfusion, always I'm not going
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to be in turmoil. Always. I'mnot going to be grasping for
straws, always I'm not going tobe and bouts of happiness and
sadness and emotionalrollercoaster always. But I have
to keep on listening and beingled. And I can't worry about
what I can't see. I can't worryabout what I can't see. And I
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have to understand that things Ido see don't even concern me.
Amen. Yeah, so we have to wehave to walk in the dark. And I
had a this weekend. A pastormentioned she said that. At one
point in time in her life. Shefelt like she was in the
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basement. And her her mothermade the comment, you know,
you're in the basement becausethat's where her her emotions
were. That's where That's whereshe felt she was in the
basement. And we spoke and evenin that there's joy in the
basement. Yeah, there's joy. Wecan experience the joy in the
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darkness. Yeah. But we have tokeep on moving. It's just like
stagnant water. Life there's nolife and stagnant water. There's
no live view is no life andstagnant water. There's life and
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water that's flowing. That'smoving. Well, we become
stagnant. There's there's nolife and that. So we have to
continue to move. Yeah.
Amen. Amen. Thank you forsharing that. I know somebody
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needed it. At somebody listeningneeded to hear that. I need to
hear it again. I love you.
I love you too. This was so thiswas good for this was good for
me this morning. This was goodfor me to reflect and remember
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while we're on this journey, andwhat it's really about what it's
really about what is reallyabout this, thank you. Because
this was for me today.
Tasia you have to tell thepeople how to find you, or
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follow you how to listen to yourpodcast, please let them know.
Yes. So I am on Instagram. Youcan find me at Tiesha TIESHA
underscore a Andrews. And mypodcast is called Amplified
Impact because that's what we'redoing. We are amplifying our
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impact. And so that's app can befound on Apple podcasts and
Spotify and big waffles whereverpodcasts are I Heart Radio. So
I'm excited. That's a newjourney for me podcasting and so
I would definitely beappreciative if you come on over
(01:05:02):
and listen and just show me someencouragement. I can continue
on, you know, just beingobedient to what God is telling
me to do in this season in thatspace. Amen. Amen.
Listen, all the links are goingto be in the show notes. So
y'all go over and download andfollow, amplified impact and
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make sure you go to Instagramand follow Tiesha and Sister,
I'm gonna close with this. Iwant you to be encouraged. keep
sowing the seed and keep beingobedient, because the obedience
is the success. Yes, yeah,obedience is the success. Every
time he tells you to crack amic, crack that mic. Every time
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he tells you to record somethingrecorded and posted. Obedience
is the success and he's not aHe's not a man that he shall
lie. Every seed that you sownhas to be multiplied back and
harvest because that's what hesaid. That's that's word. That's
what he said. Listen, we gottalet y'all go. Another
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conversation. We will, as alwaysfriends, you are powerful. You
are significant. And you are sodearly loved. You can move in
the dark. Keep moving towardsthis voice. Love your back.
Everything doesn't have toalways be going right? For me to
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experience joy. Everythingdoesn't have to always look
great for me to experience joy.
But the joy is on the inside andthe contentment of knowing that
I'm doing with what God hascalled me to do.
Hey, everybody, I am Dr.
Jackson, but you can call me PBJWelcome to another episode of
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Disrupting Burnout. And I haveanother phenomenal woman to
introduce you all to let me tellyou something, friendship is
something special. And God has away of connecting you with the
people that you need in theseason that you need them. And
today, I have the opportunity tointroduce you all to my friend,
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my sister, and I need to warnyou, I need to warn you because
every time we get together, I'mtelling you, the Holy Spirit
just speaks and moves and itjust we never know where He's
gonna take us or where this isgonna go. So today, we're just
going to let you all easedrop onour conversation. I want to
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introduce you to my sister,Tiesha Andrew, she is a
transformational speaker. She isa coach. She is a trainer. She
is a realtor. She teaches otherfolks how to gain wealth through
a real estate. Listen, she's aphenomenal woman. She's a
powerhouse. She's a woman ofGod. And she's my friend. Yeah.
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Welcome to disrupting burnout.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
I'm so so so excited to be herejust to see your face. Because
every time I see your face, thatsmile is just something to
say same. Y'all just see us wejust send a message. Throughout
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the week, it's a beautifulthing.
It really is talking aboutencouragement, encouragement, oh
my God. Yes. Yeah.
It's amazing. It's almost likewe grew up together. I feel like
we have so much in common. Andwe literally just recently met,
but it feels like we've beentogether for years. So Tiesha,
let's get into it. Yeah, I wantyou now I have my introduction
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of you. And I want you to tellthe people tell the people who
you are,oh, gosh, okay, of course, like
you said, I'm Tiesha Andrews, II'm a mother, I'm a wife, I am a
lover of Jesus Christ. Andtoday, I have a nine year old.
My son's birthday is today. Sohe turned nine today. And I have
a 15 year old next week. And Ihave a 16 year old who is soon
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to be 17 here in a second. Butreally, like you said, I feel
like I wear so many hats. Andit's so funny because I am
always trying to figure outwhich hat which had am I am I
putting on for the moment. Butone of the things that I've
learned is that in all thethings that you named, I feel
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like there's moments where I'mall those things at the same
time. And I'm learning how tooperate as such, and not be
overwhelmed and be just gratefulfor all the opportunities that
God has allowed me to expressmyself. So I thank God for all
those those opportunities. AndI'm just learning how to operate
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in them the way that God hasgifted me to so I'm not taking
any of them off the table,because I love them all. But I'm
just allowing God to teach mehow to really walk and every
last one of them. Oh,girl, you already speaking truth
listening? Because you justsaid, you're learning how to
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operate in all or how to expressyourself and all of the
opportunities. That's right, howoften do we get overwhelmed by
all of our roles by all of thehats that we wear by all of our
responsibilities, and we forgetthat they are opportunities.
That's it,they are opportunities. And I
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think that that is the mainthing that I'm learning. And I
feel like for years, I've alwaystried to have to pick one, well,
I have to be this. So I'm gonnahave to put the other things
down. But really learning thatthe giftings that God has given
me he's giving you they don'tjust flow in one vein or a one
lane he's given them to us toreally be able to touch touch
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people in every area of our lifeeverywhere that He sets us. He
wants us to be able to expressthose gifts and so if we just
say oh no, this is only for homeor this is only for work that
expression of how we sympathizewith people or how we empathize
with people how we love onpeople, how we share how we how
we just treat one another if wejust put them into one lane,
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then we are really stifled andwhat God wants to do in our
alive and, and stifling thosepeople that he wants us to
touch?
You and I had a conversation acouple of weeks ago, about
purpose versus passion, right?
And how purpose is the innate,unique brilliance inside of you,
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right? And passions are thoseexpressions, the way that we
deliver that brilliance to theworld, the way that we look like
our Heavenly Father and Hisspiritual DNA, like, when you
are living in your purpose, yourbrilliance, you look just like
your daddy, right? Yeah, and youjust describe that. So you
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express through motherhood, youexpress through working in real
estate, you express throughspeaking and coaching, you
express through being a memberof John Maxwell's team, you
express through mentoring folksin real estate and spiritually,
but all of those you expressthrough being a wife. All of
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those are expressions of thebrilliance that God gave to tie
you to so all of theresponsibilities that you have
all the roles that you have,they are specifically fitted.
Yeah. They're specificallyfitted for you, like, another
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woman might look and say, Idon't know how she does all
that. Because the yoke is easy,and the burden is light. That
armor was specifically created.
It's a customshrine. That's right. Custom.
Oh, I love that. It's a customfit. I love that it's a custom
fit. And, you know, like I know,whenever you try to put
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something else on your body,that's custom fitted for
somebody else. It never quitefits right kind of the sometimes
the shoulders might droop alittle bit sleeves could be too
long. pant leg could be too longor too short. It never quite
fits right. But like you said,when it's custom made just for
you. It's like, it molds rightto your body. It molds and it
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fits everything about youperfectly, it fits your lead
perfectly. If it's it's nuts,just the way it's supposed to
snug were supposed to it'sloose, we're supposed to lose,
it gives you room to be able tomove. Yeah. You know, move you
along the expression of yourarms, move your feet, it just
when I think about that, whatyou just said that when I think
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about them, it's made its customfor me to be able to, to be able
to flow the way I need to flow,it's not going to be
restricting. Sometimes we couldput something on that belongs to
someone else and make it feellike it could look like it fits
you ever you ever put somethingon and look, it looks like a
fitness a girl you look good.
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And you say to yourself, I lookgood. But if you only knew how
tiny girl I can't breathe.
I say girl shoes them shoestoday, these shoes look good.
And you like it might look good.
But oh, I can't wait to paythese things off. So when is not
quite quite fitted for youperfectly creative for you.
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Handmade, that it will restricthow you can move restrict your
flow, restrict where you can go,because you start feeling a
little uncomfortable.
Come on. So watch this, right?
So it really it restricts yourflow and your movement, right?
It's heavy. Like you can'tfigure out why it's so hard for
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you to get up in the morning orwhy it's so hard for you to do
the things that you're obligatedto do in your life. It's almost
like you're dragging a heavyweight with you. Everywhere you
go. It's because you're carryingsomething that's ill fitted and
watch this to the inexperiencedeye. It may look like a fit.
Right? So we have a sister Hername is Amina Morris, right. And
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Anita is a seamstress. She's adesigner, she she makes all of
her own clothes. And Anita andher brand is needed by design.
Y'all heard her on this podcastbefore a Nita her eye is key. I
might look at you and say, Oh,that's cute. And Anita will look
at you and say, Ah, that's thatwould mean that because the
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shoulders are off the neck islike a Nina has I that I don't
have because of her expertise.
So there may be people in yourlife who are looking at you and
just assuming that your life isjust beautiful. They're looking
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at you and then assuming thatyou got it all together, like
what do you have to complainabout? Your life is all tailor
made, but you know that you'recarrying something that is too
heavy for you. You know thatyou're wearing something that is
ill fitted for you, you knowthat you are walking around with
something that God didn't assignto you and when you get into
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your flow When you get into yourflow, it doesn't mean every day
is gonna be perfect. It doesn'tmean every day is going to be
perfect. But it does mean thatyou have freedom and flow. And
you know, you're right whereyou're supposed to be. Yes.
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So you to talk to us a littlebit about joy. Because I know
that joy is something that youshare, and you talk about joy in
the process. So as we're talkingabout this free flow, and this
tailor made, tell us about joyin the process.
So that's, that's perfect tiesinto something that you just
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said, when you talked about howother people may look at you.
And when they look at you, itlooks as though the garment is
perfect. It looks as though itfits correctly. When we allow
other people to tell us, ordirect us or guide us and saying
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that we're flowing, and thatlooks good on you, but you know,
it's tight, you know, it doesn'tlook right. But you are
constantly allowing other peopleyou're taking in their know, you
don't know, keep on doing that.
But you know, you need to takeit off. Okay, and you will keep
on wearing it because no, theyexpect me they expect me to wear
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this, this is what they'reexpecting me to put on. Even
though it's a little tight inthe arms. This is what they're
expecting me to put on. So I'mgonna put it on anyway, when we
do that, and so Speaking formyself, when I allowed people to
put things on me that arethey're not they weren't a
custom made for me. It wasn'tcreated for me. But because of
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expectations, I allowed peopleto let me they didn't they
suggested it. And I took off thehanger put it on, come on, they
suggested it. Oh, you're good atthat. You should do that. Oh,
yeah, no, keep on doing that.
No, that's the direction you togo in for progress. And into to
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continue to grow. And for thefor this and for that to happen,
you need to do this and go inthat direction. And when you
when you take out the hanger andyou put it on and you know what
kind of like, I don't think thisis my daddy didn't make this
one. My dad didn't make thisone. But you say, I guess maybe
if I push the sleeves up alittle bit, they won't be so
long. That'll work on our rollthe roll my waistband down. But
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I don't won't feel so so long mypants won't for so long. And in
that is where I noticed that joywas fleeting. Joy was fleeting
happiness, yes, bounce ofhappiness. Because we can find
happiness in so many differentthings, we can find happiness in
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the accomplishments, we can findhappiness in the accolades, we
can find happiness and walkingup on the stage and getting the
certificates we can findhappiness in the hand class, we
can find happiness in the highfives and the good jobs, we can
find happiness and all that. Butfor me, I knew that the joy was
missing, the joy was missingbecause I was wearing something
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and trying to carry somethingthat wasn't made for me. And so
when I looked at the differencesbetween just in my own life, joy
and happiness, I had to make aoh, I had to have a real talk
with myself and understand thatI wasn't continually living in
or continuously living in joy,but living in bouts of
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happiness, bouts of confusion,how sadness, disappointment, but
not joy. And in the differencefor me is that enjoy. Everything
doesn't have to always be goingright? For me to experience joy.
Everything doesn't have toalways look great for me to
experience joy. But the joy ison the inside and the
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contentment of knowing that I'mdoing with what God has called
me to do. Knowing that I amlistening to his voice, and then
I'm going back to Him because Hecreated me and saying God is
this this is the right fit. Thisis what what you you gave to me
to put on this is how youcreated me and understanding
that, wow, what I do, what he isformed created me to do may look
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different than the other personand what they're doing. It's
okay. It's okay because Hecreated me to do this, the
expressions that we alreadytalked about, and he created
them for their purpose in theexpressions that they're
presenting to the to themarketplace. So the world's or
their family, and so those thatthey have proximity to. And so
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that's something that I have hadto really, really, really
walkthrough really walkthroughand it's been eye opening for
me, because what I realized isthat I operated and more
happiness I have joy. I'veoperated and more happiness than
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I than I have joy. And I wasn'tconfusing the two, I just didn't
know how to step out of the laneof always seeking, being happy.
And understanding that God wantsto give me continuous joy and
his presence. And that that'ssomething that a couple, it
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actually was just a couple ofweeks ago, really brought me to
tears. Because I felt like Iknow who my Creator is. And here
I am telling you that what youcreated just for me, isn't good
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enough. And I want I want thatdress.
Okay, stop. Pause. We got a partright there. We, oh, my gosh, we
got apart. Because as you weredescribing the difference
between joy and happiness, whatI heard was compromise,
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compromise, compromise daily,daily. And sometimes as women,
we're taught that culture, we'retaught by family that we meet,
we have to compromise. Yeah,right. You take what you get,
and you don't get upset kind ofstuff. You take what you get,
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and you don't get upset. Butwhen we have a father who has
tailor made a life for us, andthen what you just said, of
looking at that perfect father.
Yeah. And saying what you madefor me, is not good enough. I'm
good enough. Because when wecompromise, in essence, that's
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what I feel like I'm saying whenI'm not gonna speak for anybody
else. But when I compromise.
That's what I feel like I'msaying, what you what you took
time to fashion, what you tooktime to breathe life into.
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I want that. I know you tooktime. And I know that you, you
created this in your image. ButI like what you made over there.
I like the world that they'regoing down. I like that path
that you have them on. And I'mnot ashamed to sit here and say
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that years ago, I would havebeen ashamed to say that because
I would have felt like it mademe look as though I'm jealous or
what want to want to covetsomething that somebody else
has. But it has nothing to dowith jealousy or even wanting to
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cover with Miles has for me.
It's not understanding what hehad for me. Yes. It had nothing
to do with being jealous ofsomeone else are wanting what
they had. It was just truly notunderstanding fully what he had
for me. Yeah. And so and notknowing that. I was looking at
what a lot of other people hadon.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that that'swhat I felt in my heart, as you
were saying that. I trulybelieve that there are women
listening right now who don'trealize that there's a tailor
made life for you. Yeah. Thatthere's there are specific
steps, specific experiences,specific roles, specific
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passions that you were created,for. He created you for the work
he created. There's no lifewithout God. So regardless of
the circumstances of your birthyour year, you're here. And if
you're here, he created you forspecific life for specific work
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and the life that He created youfor is the perfect life force,
right? That's right. You know,it's funny, because my mom was a
seamstress. And my mother metAnita. And it was beautiful when
they met but my mom has sewnever since I was born, she made
her first garment when I wasborn. That's when she first
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started sewing. And I've watchedmy mother so through the years
very, very accomplishedseamstress. And I remember when
people would come to her shop toget garments made and they would
come in with a pattern that theybought at the store and they
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were Hold a pattern and say,This is what I want. And they'd
have their pattern and theirmaterial. And my mom would say,
okay, she will look at thepattern. And she would say, this
is nice, this is gonna look goodon you and I, and she'll set the
pattern to the side, and she'llsay, Come on over here. And they
also want you to use a pattern.
And she goes, this pattern is isgreat to look at. But I'm gonna
make my own pattern because Iwant it to fit you, for you.
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Because this pattern, I know yousaid, your size 12. And this is
what the pattern is a size 12.
But this size 12 doesn't fitevery size 12 The same way. And
I watched my mom how she wouldhave to craft clothing for
individuals. And when it didn'tfit, right, she would sit there
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and patiently take it apart anddo it again. So that it was just
the right fit when they left. Sothere's so much in that when you
talk about the right fit. And wetalk about, you know, even the
look on people's face whensomething fits right. The
confidence that we have when itfits right. It's so much in that
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it's just so much in that weit is it is in. So let's talk
about a little bit more, becausewhat you just described of how
your mom served her clients, tosay, I see this picture that you
brought me, I see the vision andit's a beautiful vision. Now
step over here. And we're goingto recreate this vision to
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specifically fit you what hewhat God has called us to. He
didn't call you to do it likeanybody else. He didn't call you
to do it like Taisha Andrus, hedidn't call you to do it like
PBJ, it may be similar, it maybe similar work, but it will be
specifically fitted to you. AndI'll confess how you should
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like, especially as I am walkingout this vision, like once I
left my job, and I'm walking outthis ministry, I have looked at
coaches and others and try topattern myself against others
who are also walking out theirvision. And the most frustrated
I've been in this journey iswhen I'm trying to be like
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somebody I try. When I releasethat when I release that and
just go into worship and go intoprayer and say God, what do you
want of me? What do you wantthis to look like? That is the
most peace? That's when Isurrender when I surrendered the
house, watch this when Isurrender the house? Because the
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reason why looking at otherpeople is because how do you
want me to do it? How do I doit? How do I do it? How do I do
it? And God's like, I don't needyou? I don't need you to I know
how I don't need you out heresearching and scraping. I'll
need you I'll hit striving. Iknow how I know how, let me
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create this vision to perfectlyto perfectly fit you. Taylor may
need Yeah. Ohfor you. You know, it's so easy
to get caught up in looking atother people to see how see, to
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try to figure out the how it'sso easy to get caught up and
trying to figure out the how.
And one of the things that Ithink is just so good is that
when we do what you just saidit's just surrender and just go
into worship and say, God, Ijust thank you for the vision. I
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thank you for the vision, thatpart. And when he begins to show
you that, how Isn't itinteresting how it never lines
up with anything that you sawanything that you've when you
were trying to do your own yourown market research in line with
nothing that you saw, and you'relike, this is perfect for me.
And he's like, yeah, yeah, itis. And you know, it is perfect
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for you, you know, and andthat's one of the things that we
have to learn is that ouruniqueness to our uniqueness is
what God is desiring to us andto us and us our uniqueness. You
know, he doesn't he he doesn'twant us to be a like, he's
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called us to draw people to him.
And he has a unique way that Hewants us as individuals to do
it. Because I'm going to draw acrowd of people you're going to
draw the people call it to you.
It very well is not going to bethe same crowd because the
uniqueness that he puts in youis going to speak to their heart
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because he's going to prep theirheart and have them ready when
you hear Dr. PBJ come you knowshe's gonna drop she's he's
drawing them And so I love thatabout God that it's, it's so
it's not cookie cutter. It'sunique. And whenever we can
embrace that uniqueness, I'mgoing to share something that
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just, it's so funny because Ijust got it this was late last
night or this morning, I can'tremember what time I got up and
grabbed my phone to write this.
But and, and I was laying in mybed last night, early this
morning, and God began to showme a book. And in the book, he
took a piece of paper out. Andwell, a piece paper ripped out
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the book and began to float. Andguy just began to mentor to my
heart this morning, that you'relimiting yourself because you're
trying to operate within theconfines of this book. And when
he ripped the page, it said, beyourself, be yours. You don't
have to be uniform to this book,be yourself. And he ripped the
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pay in and I just thought thepage are ripping out and the
pages floating, just floating.
And to me for me, because it'ssomething that I've been praying
about it again was confirmationto me that I want you outside of
the box, I want you outside ofthe norm get outside the book,
get you don't I see all thesepeople, I see what they're
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doing. I see you're trying tofollow instructions, you're
trying to, you know, followsuit, you're trying to do it
right, you're trying to makesure that you follow the
algorithm, you're trying to doall the things, it's okay. And
so for me, it will just assemblefor me to be free and who he's
created me to be. I'm takenripping the page out your flow
and be free and who I createdyou to be.
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This is free in me right now, inthis very moment. So I'm gonna
tell on myself. Because Isometimes I struggle with where
do I fit God? Like, I'm aprofessional woman. I've been a
professional for 25 years,right? So some people come to me
for the professional aspect. Howdo I lead better my career path,
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you know, challenges in the workplace, specifically in
education, because that's mycareer field. But I'm also Holy
Ghost filled, like, I am apreacher. I am a minister,
right. But I don't always feelthat I fit completely in the
church, just in the church,right? Because I have this
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professional hat as well. Andsometimes I feel like I need to
be one or the other. And justrecently, so even specifically
concerning my LinkedIn, right,so on my LinkedIn, I share clips
of these podcast episodes. AndI'm like, ain't nobody talking
about Jesus only. No, I'mtelling myself like, within the
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last week, I was thinking, well,maybe I need to do one set of
content from length. And anotherset of content for this. And
this part will be ministry andthis part will be professional.
But as you are speaking, I hearthe Lord saying, Nah, no, do
what I told you. This is tailormade is tape, because I'm all of
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these things. I am all of thesethings. And that
compartmentalizing of who weare. Well over here, I'd be a
minister. And over here, I'll bea professional woman. And over
here, I'll be a mom and a wife.
And over here that isexhausting.
It's exhausting. It'sexhausting.
So it is freeing me. In thismoment as you talk about this
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vision and Tasha is a dreamer,you're, she's a dreamer, God
speaks to her dreams. And asyou're sharing your dream and
your vision, gods like no, weyou will not, you will not bow
to the algorithms you will notbow to the pattern of the world.
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You are a minister who is calledto the field of education. You
are a minister who is called tocorporate and the people that
are assigned to me will hearthis call and they will connect
I don't have to pretend that I'mnot that right. I don't have to
pretend and even when I go in sowhen I go in to speak at a
university or when I go in tospeak at a company I can't
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always say cheeses you know Ican't always everything I'm
teaching comes from the word ofGod comes from the word every
man and that's all I need. Andby the way for him that's what
you need to write. It's stillministry no matter where I am.
And as you were speaking, I hearthe Lord saying, no, no you
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being exactly this pattern isspecifically for you. And there
is somebody out there whostraight corporate and that's
all they are and if that's whatyou need, you need to call Bam.
But if you need breakthrough inyour corporate, if you need
breakthrough in your universityif people need to be free, so
that they can be their best,best and be brilliant that when
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you call PBTS. Fine.
That's right. That's right. Andbe okay with that. To be okay
with them calling the otherperson, that's okay. And that's
okay. That's okay. That's okay.
Because what you're gonna getover here.
And when I try to do thoseassignments, they never fit.
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They never fit. They never neverfit. Oh, never fit
Taisha, you were talking abouthaving trouble moving from just
having happy moments into joy.
So can you talk a little bitabout how you make that
transition from just happymoments or being stuck and happy
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to living in joy.
So one of the things that I havebeen making a number one
priority for myself, is to stayout of people's faith. It's a
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gospel more, say more.
For me, stepping away fromalways looking for happiness,
but pursuing joy has looked likeme having to say no to so much
of the conversations withpeople, no to so many of the
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gatherings or outings withpeople. And going back to
prioritizing what I know is mostimportant, which is me spending
time with the Lord. Because whatsometimes we fail to realize is
that joy is only found in Hispresence. Come on. I can go with
my friends and find happiness. Ican spend time with my husband
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and find happiness. But joy isonly found in the presence of
the Lord. So when I prioritizespending time with the Lord,
rather that's in my word andprayer and just meditating on
something the Lord has given me,and just digging deeper into it
to see what does he speak intomy spirit. That's where the joy
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is found. That's where the joyis found. That's what I'm I'm
realizing for myself. And Ithink that for me, the
misconception has been that Iwas doing enough. And what I had
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to realize is that is a reallythat's how we can say I spent
enough time with the Lord whocome on, I spent enough time and
my word, I spent enough timepraying today. The word tells us
to pray continually withoutfaith, then yeah, all throughout
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the day. There's never too much.
You know, we've heard that attimes, but you don't want too
much. But for me, and for me toenjoy joy, and be able to reside
there. There's never too much.
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And what I'm what I'munderstanding what I'm learning
is that it doesn't matter whatanybody else's Walker looks
like. It doesn't matter whatanybody else decides to do what
they're in their relationshipwith the Lord. This is my
personal relationship with theLord. And while I thank my
parents, because they raised usknowing I'm talking about me and
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my siblings, knowing that therelationship is what's
important. The relationship withthe Lord is what's important.
But it wasn't until just severalyears ago when I really had to
understand that I wasn't doingenough. And so that's where I am
now when I think about justunderstanding what the joy of
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the Lord really looks like. Forme, it's just knowing how to put
aside things that will be happy,you know, causing happiness but
seek joy. And it's a choice. Youknow, Joy is a choice. Yeah. And
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I have to understand thateverybody's not choosing joy.
And that's okay. That's that'stheir decision to make. But I I
know that I need Joy especiallyfor you need joy, especially for
a word God is willing to takeyou for the people you want you
to to reach. You need joy, weneed joy. We don't need bouts of
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happiness and ups and downs, weneed to be able to show that
there is a that we serve a Godthat is able to no matter what's
going on in our life, we havejoy on the mountaintops. And we
have joy when we're in thevalley. Yeah. And we have to be
able to demonstrate that. Andthe only way that we can is when
we spend time in the presence ofthe Lord. And so that's, that's
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what I'm, that's what I'mlearning. Even the more as I get
older, and as I experiencedcertain things in my life, I'm
learning even the more howimportant that joy is for me.
Yeah, when you were talkingabout, you know, that phase
where you felt like, Oh, I'mdoing enough, right? It's almost
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what came to my mind is,according to who like, who is
your standard? Who is it? Who isyour standard? Because if you
compare yourself to otherpeople, while I'm doing more
than so and so I'm doing morethan why Sony, why is a fallible
person, your standard? Yeah,that's not your standard, God is
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your standard, you want to beperfect as he is perfect, that
word perfect means mature, youare to be mature as he is
mature. Now, according to whattypisch is doing, not according
to what PBJ is. Because we arewe are imperfect, do not compare
yourself to us. We are not yourstandard, he is the standard.
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And if he is the standard, thatmeans we will never meet it. I
press towards the mark. It's acontinual press. It's a
continual press, because thatstandard is not reachable as
long as we're in this fleshsuit. Right. But we continue to
pursue it, not because he keepsmoving the marker, not because
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he needs us to pursue it. Butbecause we need to pursue it.
That's right. That's where thejoy is found is in His presence
andthe press. It's in his presence.
That's the only place joy isfound. Comes now one of many.
Okay, so you are an accomplishedrealtor. Like you're not playing
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no games, right?
We don't play games over here.
Accomplished realtor, you havemade money, you have won awards,
you have mentored and trainedother people. So you mean to
tell me joy wasn't found in anyof those accomplishments?
Wow. Wow, as you put it likethat? Oh, happiness was found in
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him. That's right. I wasextremely excited, Happy
Happiness was found in him.
Who but joy. When you put itlike that, I will say that.
That's those times where you youconfuse happiness with joy. And
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they're just not the same. Andthey're just not the same. And I
think one now that you bring itup in that way, one of the
reasons why I know that therewas happiness there but joy was
lacking was because it goes backto the expression of gifts that
mean you have had conversationsabout and all those things. I am
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expressing the giftings that Godhas placed within me to do those
things as I serve other people.
But at the same time, for somereason, I felt as though I had
to compartmentalize myself goesback to what you said. We're
going to be this real estateagent and I'm operating in this
van then over here, I want toencourage people in the Lord and
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then over here I want to do hadI understood that they all go
together Yeah. Then then I knowthat there would have been joy
throughout that journey. And notjust thoughts of happiness. But
like it goes back to trying tocompartmentalize it.
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It does and and I wanted to sayit that way because listening to
this podcast, we have manyaccomplished women accomplished
women who love God, listen tothis podcast. And sometimes we
feel like what the nextaccomplishment will fill this
void the next degree The nextaward the next major sale the
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next accomplishment if I canjust get to the next one. This
one didn't do it. But if I canjust get to the next one. it'll
fill that void and as women whohave accomplished much praise
the lord thank God for as womenwho have accomplished much we're
here to tell you that only Godoh my God and even when he said
it like say it like that. You'rehappy there but then what else
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is being neglected or what elseis being what else are we not
paying attention to our whatelse are we not? Don't have our
hands on? because we're focusedhere on on the accomplishments
on the next accomplishment, orthe next thing, or the next
award or, or the next feat,whatever that looks like, and
sometimes we can find ourselvesin that in that mode of just
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going, going going. And so evenfor me, and that, I realized
that yes, accomplished here, butwhat what else was not getting
my attention? Is Was it mymarriage? Was it my children?
Was it my own self care? Takingcare of taking care of my mind
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taking care of my body? So wealso have to look at what are we
saying no to while we're overhere saying yes. Because I feel
like when we sit down, like yousaid earlier, and we surrender
it all and say, Okay, God, showme how to do this show, show me
how to do this. Show me how todo this. And he started showing
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me how to do this and how to dohow to be the real estate agent,
how to be the wife, how to bethe mother, how to be the coach,
how to be the instructor how tobe the speaker. He had to show
me how to do that. So thatagain, we weren't
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compartmentalizing so that therecan be joy found and all of it
tailored me and not feeling likeI did this now let me go do
this. Let me find the energy togo do this. Yeah,
Joy Joy is everlasting fountain.
Yes. So we don't have to go findthe energy there's a wellspring
flowing and even you mentionedearlier even on whether the day
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is good or whether the day istough. You have an everlasting
fountain on the inside of you sowe no longer allow our emotions
to be tugged from one side tothe other. And if we do and if
we do, we can quickly come backto center Yeah, because of this
wellspring of joy Taisha how dowe protect our joy how do we
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maintain joy because life belife and
all day long? All day long. Ohmy gosh. Ooh. Transparent moment
before we hopped on Oh my I wasfeeling some kind of way because
(42:37):
my morning It started off andthen it kind of it it tried to
derail it so and I could feelmyself going getting agitated
and a little irritated,irritated and I did I had a
little bit of attitude thismorning. No one little I had an
attitude this morning. Thismorning I think that one of the
(43:02):
things that to protect us onthat roller coaster ride is one
is we have to protect what wetake in protect what we listen
to what do we listen into? Partsprotect what we're seeing, what
are we what are we reading? Whatare we putting our eyes on? What
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what are we looking at? So tome, I know that when I protect
what's coming in I'm moreconscious of what's going out.
Yes, man.
When I know that I've taken timeto again, pray, read read my
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read my word, whether it's ascripture or a several
scriptures or whatever God layson my heart to do when I do
that. And I'm protecting what wecall our gates. Yes. When I'm
protecting them. I am able toacknowledge when I'm going
sideways quicker. Yes, ma'am.
And bring it back. Yeah. So forme, I think that it's more so
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becoming a matter of protectingwhat's coming in. So then I can
be more cognizant of what'sgoing out and not just what's
going out my mouth but just justmy body language. What's going
out in general? Yeah, because Ican feel when I start feeling
like that the Holy Spiritquickly comes in and quickens me
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and brings me right back likeyou said to center and for me
bringing that rep right back tocenters bring me right back to
gratitude to st God, but I thankyou. I thank you and forgive me.
Yes.
And I thought I thank you. Ithank you for even just bringing
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it to my attentionYeah, yeah, you what you're
describing is, this is not awalk of perfection. We're a
beaut that this is not a walk ofperfection. This is not a, I'm
floating on clouds, and I'mjoyful every moment and I never
get an attitude and I never getwhat I call a little crunchy. We
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all get a little crunchy. Okay.
But but the key is to recognizeit, yeah. To be aware enough of
myself and my soul, to knowwhere I'm going in a different
direction and not to continue inthat direction. But disrupt that
(45:42):
pattern, and get back to peace.
Get back to peace, get back toJoy, get back to gratitude,
right. So this walk with God,it's that it's a walk. So walk
with God and your children aregonna frustrate you, your spouse
is gonna frustrate you, thepeople that you work with, like
things are gonna happen, yourschedule is not gonna go the way
(46:02):
you plan, like, things are goingto happen, things are going, and
even more serious things maycome up in my brother. But the
key, the key is to recognize tohave that connection with Holy
Spirit, that will, that willconvict your heart and said, No,
come back, come back. Come back.
(46:23):
Don't go that direction. Don't,don't meditate there. Don't
focus there. Don't stay there.
Don't, don't stay there. Youmight go there. But you don't
have to stay there. Don't staythere. Come back to peace. Come
back to two. So come back to thespring. Come back. Scripture
that says guard your heart withall diligence for out of it
(46:43):
flows to issues of life, itliterally means to set up a
guard around your soul is nottalking about the heart that
beats but it's talking aboutyour emotions, your will Yeah,
your mind set up a guard aroundyour soul so that you know that
you have some control overwhat's coming in. Because the
(47:04):
key is not the key is not what'scoming out. It's what's coming
in. Is was what goes in, man,they gotta guard what goes in,
in order to manage what comesout.
And you know that what thatthat's gonna look different for
everybody what it takes for youto guard. You're so maybe
(47:27):
different than what it takes me.
Yeah. And that goes back to thatquestion of who decided what
enough was. Because what what isgoing to take for you could be
different than me, I might haveto go through some extra steps.
And it might look like fasterthan, you know, weekly, it may
look like fast. And every timethat I'm prompt to fast, and you
(47:48):
know, I I keep communion on mydesk, because I know that there
are times that I am prompt, it'snot every day. It's not every
day, but there are times whenthe Holy Spirit says, Go
downstairs, get a communion cup.
Pray, remember, and I have tocome down here and I will get
(48:13):
one. And I will sit with it. AndI will thank God and I will
pray. And I know for me whenI've when I'm obedient to do
that. I can feel the energy inmy body shifting. Yes, man. Out
(48:35):
of the obedience of doing it. Ican feel the energy in my body
shifting. But what if I say no,I'm not. I got other things to
do. I don't have time to go. I'malready running late. I got
something else I need to do. Idon't have time to do that
today. It's in those momentswhere it can go anyway. Yeah.
(48:57):
But being willing to be obedientto acknowledge the Holy Spirit
saying, Oh, come on. Come onback. Come on back. Let's get
this let's get this right. Justfeels right. You know, so
obedience plays a big part. Andthe joy that we choose are not
come on the joy that we chooseor not. Oh Tiesha. I will
(49:20):
probably go on keep talkingbecause that's what we do. But
we do have to let the folks gobefore I want you to tell us how
do you define disruptionso the way that I define
disruption is stepping outsideof your comfort zone. And the
(49:44):
reason why I define disruptionthat way is because I feel that
the minute that you decide tomake a choice to step outside of
your comfort zone and allowyourself to be led by the Holy
Spirit for me. Anything isliable to happen. Anything is
live and a half. And so when wethink about the disruption we're
(50:09):
thinking about, I think aboutthings being shaken up. I think
about things just beinginterrupted for the good. And I
think that when God takes us outof our comfort zone, he's like,
we're about to disrupt somethings. We're about to shake it
up. I got you all come throughall I'm about to I'm about to
(50:29):
have you step into some unknownterritory, so that you can shake
some things up and becomedisruptive. Yes, that's a good
way. So that's what disruptionmeans for me.
Okay, so I need to ask you onemore question. And if you want
me to, if you want me to cutthis, I will. But it's been
(50:51):
bugging me the whole time. SoI'm gonna be obedient. A few
weeks ago, you had a dream abouta dark room? Yes. Would you mind
sharing that dream in thatrevelation with us?
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Soyeah, a couple of weeks ago, I
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had a dream that God had givenme and I was in a warehouse
looking wrong. Similar to yourCostco on your Sam's warehouse,
and I walked into this room, andit was dark. And so you can
imagine what a big warehouselooks like when it's dark, you
can't see anything, you just canfeel this massive room. What as
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I began to walk into the room, Ican see that there were people
of all ages, children, adults,and they were standing still
like mannequins is what theylook like, and the train, they
were frozen in place. Andwhatever activity they were
doing, they were frozen in thatin that place. So everybody was
doing something different. Andthey were all frozen. And I
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began to walk through thiswarehouse, and just really
wondering why everybody wasstanding still, but also more so
when and why the lights wereoff, because it was such a big
space. And as I began to walkpast the people and look at them
in their state, I also began towalk to the wall. So I can turn
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lights on just really at thattime was for me to be able to
see what was in that room. Andso I began to turn the lights
on. And you know, in a bigwarehouse, how lights kind of
come on, and sections that kindof come on and roll. So all the
lights didn't come on at onetime. But as the lights began to
illuminate and shine in thebuilding, people began to start
(52:37):
moving, they began to resumewhatever activity it was that
they were doing. So as thelights progressively turned on
throughout the warehouse,everyone just came back to life.
And nobody saw me. But I waswatching them. And I noticed
that in the far corner of theroom, the light switch had not
been turned on yet. And so Iwalked over there and there was
(53:01):
a gentleman and he was holding abasketball. And I flipped the
light switch in the room that hewas in. And he began to just
start that bounce in thebasketball. And I stood there.
And I looked at all thesepeople, and here they are moving
and during their regularactivities. And I just began to
(53:22):
wonder why. Why were they evenin the dark in the first place?
Why were they in the dark in thefirst place? And I didn't know
and I didn't have an answer forit at that time. But what I knew
was, it was time for me to go.
So I started turning the lightsoff in the warehouse. And as I
turned the lights off in thewarehouse, I noticed that
everybody froze again. And so Iturned all the lights off and I
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left and I got up that morningand I laughed a little bit
because I felt like maybe apizza drink. Maybe what was that
really about? And I laughed alittle bit about it. But as I
got up that morning, and I gotready to go I was headed to a
Pilates class. And the HolySpirit says I would drive and
turn around and go back home.
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And I said to myself go backhome like I'm going to Pilates
like I'm not going back home andthen Holy Spirit said again, go
back home. One of the thingsI've been praying about previous
to this was about obedience.
When God tells me to dosomething to just do it, and not
need to have so many answers orreasons behind why. And the
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second time the Holy Spirit saidturn back around and go home. I
began to compromise I was likeI'm gonna lose this Pilates
credit. Pilates credit is money.
I don't want to if I turn aroundand I lose his Pilates credit
you better be good when I gethome now that's just my my humor
to myself as I was talking outloud to the Holy Spirit, but I
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did I turned my car around thesecond time that he told me to
my car when I turned my cararound, and I came back home,
not really knowing what I wascoming back home to do, I
thought maybe okay, we're goingto some stretches in the living
room or something. So as I walkin your house Hotspurs, get your
journal, and just go sit on thefloor in the living room. So I
get my journal book, and I gosit on the floor in the living
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room, I'm just sitting there.
And he, I could feel his spiritslike no music, no talking, I
want you to sit here and listento me. And as I sat there,
listening, just sat there for aminute. And it's one of the
things that I struggled with ishow to quiet myself, just quiet
myself to just listen to listento what the Lord is telling me
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and what Laura's directing me tobut on this day, I felt a sense
of calm, I just felt like mywhole body was quiet. And still
even my mind was quiet. And Ididn't feel any, you know, all
the the noise. And as I satthere, the Holy Spirit began to
minister to me instead, andbrought back the dream back to
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my remembrance, every singlepart of it. And as he began to
show me the dream, and show methat the people who are not
moving, the Holy Spirit said,You need to tell the people that
they can move in the dark. Andat first, I didn't really
understand I just began to writeeverything that the Lord was
given me. And he said, tell thepeople that they can move in the
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dark. And when I began to thinkabout that, and so Spirit began
to reveal it more to me. Notjust that he showed me myself,
but he showed me so many reasonswhy people get stuck in the
dark, we get stuck in the darkone, the reasons that we talked
about today, we're trying tolive up to other people's
expectations, and we get lost,that's dark, we're lost, we get
lost in darkness there. We'redisappointed. We are confused.
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We don't know which way to go.
We've had things happen in ourlives of that has caused trauma
beyond anyone's that they caneven think anything imaginable.
We've had experiences that havecaused us to get stuck. We've
had things happen to us that wecan't even explain. And so we
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just stopped, we freeze withfear. And the Holy Spirit said,
tell them that they can move inthe dark, we don't have to get
stuck in one spot when we feellike we lost our way or or we're
confused or we're stuck. But wecan still move. But the key is,
and that is that. One reason whywe don't move is because we get
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so caught up in how the HolySpirit showed it to me is we get
so caught up and being able tosee everything with our eyes, we
get so caught up with the needto have to see the next step.
And I knew that not only was hejust talking to me to share this
with other people, but he wastalking directly to me. Because
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we feel like I can't takeanother step unless I can see
it. Unless I know exactly whatthis is going to turn out to be
if I if I can see what you'redoing God then yes, I'm going to
move. If I can see the door toTurn the doorknob, I'll go out
(58:13):
the door. If I can see thestaircase I'll take the step and
host purchase the cancer remindme of the scripture that we walk
by faith not by sight and thatthere is nothing that he has
called us to do that needs ourNatural Vision. Everything that
he has called us to do is byfaith. If we need it, if our
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Natural Vision was required, andwe wouldn't need a savior, we
there will be no need for him tosend the Holy Spirit to lead us
and guide us in all things.
Because I don't need somebody toguide me when I can see for
myself, come on. And so for mewhen God just began to reveal
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that dream to me, there'sthere's so many people and
myself included I was in thatplace where I had to see to move
because it was dark, not darkand hear me because I'm not
talking about dark because ofsin. I'm not talking about it's
dark because you're living thislife of sin. You're living you
(59:20):
know this life that you know youweren't created to live. I'm
talking about just life. Yeah.
As you stuck in that that feelsdark. I remember when my brother
died that had nothing to do withme limit and said that was dark.
(59:41):
Yeah. I lost someone that meanteverything to me. That was dark.
I was stuck. I was stuck. I wasstuck. I didn't move for a long
time. If I didn't move, I didn'tknow how to move. So when we
(01:00:09):
find ourselves in places likethat, from Lawson, and loss of
job, grieving things that youthought should have been better,
not, whether it's a job, whetherit's, it could be anything
because we can grieve anythingthat we that we lose. All those
(01:00:32):
things get can get us to a placewhere it gets dark around us,
and we get stuck and we stopmoving. But in that dream, when
God showed it to me and revealedit to me, at the end of the day,
what I know, he wanted me to getup off that floor with are two
(01:00:54):
things. Don't let mycircumstances the situation or
what it looks like to stop mefrom moving.
And the second thing was,remember, I don't need eyes on
this journey. I just need faith.
And in that faith, I need tocontinue to stay in his presence
(01:01:18):
so I can hear his voice so I canrecognize it. Because he's
speaking to us. And if I justwalk in that direction
if I just walk, continue to walkin that direction. It's going to
get live. I'm not going to be inconfusion, always I'm not going
(01:01:41):
to be in turmoil. Always. I'mnot going to be grasping for
straws, always I'm not going tobe and bouts of happiness and
sadness and emotionalrollercoaster always. But I have
to keep on listening and beingled. And I can't worry about
what I can't see. I can't worryabout what I can't see. And I
(01:02:05):
have to understand that things Ido see don't even concern me.
Amen. Yeah, so we have to wehave to walk in the dark. And I
had a this weekend. A pastormentioned she said that. At one
point in time in her life. Shefelt like she was in the
(01:02:26):
basement. And her her mothermade the comment, you know,
you're in the basement becausethat's where her her emotions
were. That's where That's whereshe felt she was in the
basement. And we spoke and evenin that there's joy in the
basement. Yeah, there's joy. Wecan experience the joy in the
(01:02:47):
darkness. Yeah. But we have tokeep on moving. It's just like
stagnant water. Life there's nolife and stagnant water. There's
no live view is no life andstagnant water. There's life and
(01:03:08):
water that's flowing. That'smoving. Well, we become
stagnant. There's there's nolife and that. So we have to
continue to move. Yeah.
Amen. Amen. Thank you forsharing that. I know somebody
(01:03:31):
needed it. At somebody listeningneeded to hear that. I need to
hear it again. I love you.
I love you too. This was so thiswas good for this was good for
me this morning. This was goodfor me to reflect and remember
(01:03:59):
while we're on this journey, andwhat it's really about what it's
really about what is reallyabout this, thank you. Because
this was for me today.
Tasia you have to tell thepeople how to find you, or
(01:04:20):
follow you how to listen to yourpodcast, please let them know.
Yes. So I am on Instagram. Youcan find me at Tiesha TIESHA
underscore a Andrews. And mypodcast is called Amplified
Impact because that's what we'redoing. We are amplifying our
(01:04:41):
impact. And so that's app can befound on Apple podcasts and
Spotify and big waffles whereverpodcasts are I Heart Radio. So
I'm excited. That's a newjourney for me podcasting and so
I would definitely beappreciative if you come on over
(01:05:02):
and listen and just show me someencouragement. I can continue
on, you know, just beingobedient to what God is telling
me to do in this season in thatspace. Amen. Amen.
Listen, all the links are goingto be in the show notes. So
y'all go over and download andfollow, amplified impact and
(01:05:26):
make sure you go to Instagramand follow Tiesha and Sister,
I'm gonna close with this. Iwant you to be encouraged. keep
sowing the seed and keep beingobedient, because the obedience
is the success. Yes, yeah,obedience is the success. Every
time he tells you to crack amic, crack that mic. Every time
(01:05:49):
he tells you to record somethingrecorded and posted. Obedience
is the success and he's not aHe's not a man that he shall
lie. Every seed that you sownhas to be multiplied back and
harvest because that's what hesaid. That's that's word. That's
what he said. Listen, we gottalet y'all go. Another
(01:06:12):
conversation. We will, as alwaysfriends, you are powerful. You
are significant. And you are sodearly loved. You can move in
the dark. Keep moving towardsthis voice. Love your back.
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