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February 18, 2025 104 mins

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Siobhan is joined by Danielle from Danielle Will Still Choose the Bear and Holly from Hot Dogs with Holly as they break in the new podcast studio with a mix of wild personal stories, serious discussions, and unfiltered opinions.

From a stalker story to a taco bar mishap with a questionable banner, this episode swings from hilarious mishaps to hard-hitting truths. The conversation also dives into serious issues like racial slurs, date rape, and the reality of roofies in bars—all explored through the lens of their diverse backgrounds and candid perspectives.

Raw, real, and a little ridiculous—this episode has it all.

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Siobhan (00:08):
And that, like, I paid them to build a room, and then
more, yeah, well, they did iton, like, a cheap, cheap, yeah,
but still, but that's fuckinglegit, but yeah. And then I
sound proofed at all, and Ibuilt the backgrounds. I
remember, your Yep, so and Imade them so they're movable.
Oh, nice. So I'm just gonna makesure let me scoot. All right.

(00:36):
This is my tiny microphone. Soadorable. We don't have mine.

Unknown (00:40):
I don't know where they are. My mom's looking at her
house. Like, I don't.

Siobhan (00:44):
We'll figure it out. Or I'm just gonna have to, like,
figure out how to, not how. Imean, yeah, how. But I'm gonna
have to do, like, the into acomputer thing, probably, if
we're gonna do more than threepeople. But this is my first
moment, three. Oh yeah. Make itlike a common

Unknown (01:00):
thing where we just, like, find a topic that we're
pissed off about during the weekand just come in and just vent.

Siobhan (01:05):
I like it. We gotta figure out a name, because we'll
have to have, like, Duckingreality with Holly and Danielle
and,

Unknown (01:11):
like, Ducking reality with, why the fuck

Danielle (01:15):
that's perfect. I've been called What the actual fuck
yeah, it's

Siobhan (01:19):
probably a podcast. Is already, we'll just call it the
fucking reality, the dry

Danielle (01:29):
reality every day when I open my news app, and then
there's some new I know, I know,terrible I can't just sit behind
the sand. No, I just saw Dr Ozis gonna be in charge of fucking
Medicare today.

Unknown (01:42):
Serious. I'm gonna be slugs. Mackenzie, you feel me
like, do it. I'm gonna have somany layers on ice. That's a bad
joke in this moment in time.

Siobhan (01:53):
Oh, man, wait. Well, let's start with the first it's,
um, it's actually the inauguralpodcast in the studio. Yes, in
the studio, you are veryspecial. There's like, two TV
screens. I know everything's nothooked up yet. The TV is gonna
get hooked up, the cameras, Istill have to figure out, but
we're I'm getting there. Youever wanna

Unknown (02:13):
know this podcast? So I'm just trying to play in video
games and just talking shit onthe side to you guys.

Siobhan (02:18):
Oh, Wilkie made me do that. I know yesterday was or
Sunday was his birthday, butwait so I just want to introduce
everyone that's here, becausewe're just going to

Unknown (02:27):
start jumping right. We can cut on that first No,
I thought we're just likegetting like warmed

Siobhan (02:41):
up, but I always lose not quite

Unknown (02:43):
as loose as ours. It's been a few

Siobhan (02:46):
years. All right, welcome to Dr.

Unknown (03:00):
I forget. Welcome to Ducking reality. By the way, I'm
good at it anymore.

Siobhan (03:06):
Yeah. I was like, Oh, I wonder. Because, all right, so I
started a new dating app thing.
All right. First of all, y'all,welcome to Ducking reality.

Unknown (03:14):
Hello, everyone today.

Siobhan (03:16):
Cheers. Today. We have on the pod two of our former
guests. On my right, we haveDanielle from Danielle still
choose a bear. Yes, still holdstrue. And on my left, Holly with
from hot dogs with Holly, youmight remember, because she
already told me to fucksomething with me. Fuck my
mouth,

Danielle (03:33):
fuck me because you fucking put you know, in case
you were wondering, this is anNSFW podcast,

Unknown (03:41):
mayonnaise on her, her hot dog. Don't

Siobhan (03:44):
put mayonnaise on anything. Do you have? No wait,

Unknown (03:48):
I was on the part, sorry you make it soft, but
Whoa, there's just so manyketchup also. I've had a couple
because I've had a bad

Siobhan (04:00):
day, but, well, I was gonna say I started like a new
app, and it's, you know, like a,more like a poly app. Someone's
like, Oh no, you've really, no,

Unknown (04:13):
okay, go on well, because even

Siobhan (04:15):
though you thought, just because you were swiping on
people, things were gonna happenfor me, they're just that's not
those apps

Unknown (04:21):
open, right? Well, like I said, before, come out with
me, I will well, my friendsmarried other people because of
me, right? That was a bad way tosay
that one our humble brag got alittle I was

Siobhan (04:37):
like, Wait till okay.

Unknown (04:38):
No, okay, so I say it so my two friends, Alex and
Nina. I introduced them. Theygot married. And then my two
friends, Alex and Laura, thinkyou guys might know them a
little bit. Oh, I think Ihaven't met the baby. My
friends, my friend Kara, likeswears that she introduced him
in the back of last week, and myfirst fall, that was my house,
and that's where I introducedpeople. They were together for
10 years. They just got marriedin June. Let's

Danielle (04:59):
do. Is matchmaker.

Unknown (05:03):
I'm here for it. Well, you don't want to match

Danielle (05:06):
make. I mean, I'm, I'm figuring it out. You are just, I
want to hear this.

Siobhan (05:12):
Then I was thinking about poly people, and then I
think about things. And then Ithought, huh, I don't did Holly
date guys ever? Yeah. So then Iwas talking about whether

Unknown (05:22):
or not straight at the I had a light stalker for a
little bit. Oh, I was livingwith some friends over the
marketplace on Lincoln andStanton, where mahes is, or, oh
yeah. And I was just like,fucked up. I was just fucked up,
and I was trying to get some andobviously I'm not gonna fuck my
roommates, because they're like,brothers to me. And like, my
friend Joe. He's like, here's mybuddy, Chris. I was like, You
ever been in that side room? Andhe was like, Sure have. And I

(05:46):
was like, What about the pooltable? Because we had a pool
table. He walked up the stairsand pool table, and then he
walked into the kitchen of therest house. It's fucking weird.
So yeah, get him a blowy. Okay.
Super into it. And I'm like, Iknow you are.

Danielle (06:03):
Look at them lips. We went into

Unknown (06:06):
the room, and he was short and sweet. And then after
that, I was getting repeatedphone calls and text messages
showed up at the bars. I worked.
Oh, I told my buddy Joey, like,Hey, your buddy Chris, needs to
chill it out. Yeah? And then Funfact, like, like, a year or two
later, and I was like, down withdude. I'm like, with an X of

(06:28):
mine. And I was like, fuck.
She's like, what? I was like,Yeah, I used to bang that dude.
Like,

Danielle (06:38):
I used to, did you not hear that word Yeah? And he just
passed him

Unknown (06:43):
at the pool table like his new chicken was just like,
Yes, I see you care. I mean, ifyou're ever listening to this
Chris, weird guy, just learn howto move it.

Siobhan (07:00):
Well, I don't know. Is it worse? If that like, at least
you can feel it,

Danielle (07:05):
at least you're not rolling down, at least you
better be able

Unknown (07:11):
to eat it, like, outside of the room. Like, are
you okay? Because, like, I'mlike, the little sister. I'm
like, yeah.

Danielle (07:19):
About the gagging noises, I'm fine. They're like,

Unknown (07:25):
that's funny. I just found that hookah, by the way.

Danielle (07:33):
Bring it back memories.

Unknown (07:39):
Over here.

Danielle (07:46):
We'll get there. Yeah, get there. I mean, we all meet
people in bars. That's how,that's actually, I mean, that's
how I met the guy was with thelongest I was a regular this
bar. I was, like, my old coworker took me there, and it was
down by the giant stadium. Oh,God. And Mama momos. Mamas, not
momos. No, it used to be calledPolo Grounds. It's now called
the stick. Yeah, so PoloGrounds, it was named for the

(08:09):
original baseball stadium of thegiants when labor is still in
New York. See, we're gonna tieit all into history. Look at me.
Look at that, see, but yeah, no,I actually this was like 2014
and so I used to take Cal train.
And so one night, I just stayedpast the midnight train. And
actually, yes, the COVID got alittle bit of a show on the way

(08:38):
back.

Siobhan (08:43):
I mean, like, can you imagine, like, you give a blow
job in the back of a lift, andthen you're star

Unknown (08:51):
rating? Like, actually, nobody picked this Oh up, or do,
or really do. Oh,no timing. She was gonna do
this. I knew she was gonna dothis. She was supposed to call
me at 536, 30. I understandthere's traffic on the bridge,

(09:12):
but like you said, you're gonnacall me from the

Siobhan (09:16):
car. Fine. Did she call? Wait to call you from the
driveway? Like I

Unknown (09:19):
don't know. I don't know we would complicate a
relationship. It's not becauseI'm like, banging her daughter
really well.

Danielle (09:27):
It could be just because a little bit, I feel
like a lot of people havecertain relationships with
mothers,

Unknown (09:33):
my my girlfriend is like, best friend with my mom,
Yeah, but see, it doesn't, it's

Danielle (09:37):
that doesn't always happen. She's like, we're gonna
watch

Unknown (09:39):
Alfred Hitchcock's movie. Because I'm like, and
when I wanna switch to she'slike, I don't know. Don't know,
wait, I

Danielle (09:44):
wanna date with your mom. Thanks. Bye, see you later.
Yeah, no, I actually, I mean,like, the person I consider to
be more of a mom to me is mybest friend's mom, and he and I
used to date. Like, oh,

Unknown (09:55):
I met him. Yeah,

Danielle (09:56):
yeah, Brett, yes. He told me i. Yeah, we were kids. I
was like 18 to 21 so there'sjust a lot of shit that we went
through,

Unknown (10:04):
really, because I was, like a full grown adult at 18,

Danielle (10:07):
obviously. I mean, with that rack, I would have

Unknown (10:15):
thought she's ready to go, whatever you want. Yeah,

Danielle (10:24):
like, about this fucking trend, because I don't
fuck with Tiktok. I've been,I've been trying to, especially
since the election, I'm tryingto, like, kind of stay off of
social media a little bit, whichis very hard. I When have you
seen me post shit since then?
No, you're

Unknown (10:37):
like, guess what? I read? I will read. Is it like,
bitchy read?

Siobhan (10:41):
She reads just tick tock and Twitter,

Danielle (10:45):
I don't do the tick tock. I'm like 72 No, it's
weird. There's like a there'slike a gap between like Gen Z
and like Jen, like Gen Xers andBoomers who fucking love tick
tock, and then a lot ofmillennials. I know, no, I
can't. We've already had all ofthe social media I don't want
anymore. Remember Vine. Vine waswhat I watched. Like,

Unknown (11:09):
I was gonna ask you to correct me or not, what? Like
that tick tock was a new vine. Iloved vine, yeah? Like, but it
was 10 seconds, so was

Siobhan (11:19):
really short, yeah, most

Danielle (11:21):
it was like 30 seconds, and now it's like, what
you get 90 I don't know. I don't

Unknown (11:25):
know if you bring a vine back,

Danielle (11:29):
bring my space back, and teach us how to code again.

Unknown (11:34):
My my brothers did, my sister did. No, actually, I
don't think my sister did. Inever had a MySpace. It was,
wow. It was too complicated for

Danielle (11:43):
me. I had to sneak it out of my space because my
parents were so religious, Iwasn't allowed. So I had to make
it at my friend's house,

Unknown (11:50):
you know, like, bad add. Like, I do. Like, yeah,
you learn one fucking code.
You're like, so why does it workfor everything? You're like,
switching out the URLs, or it'slike, red background, yeah, he

Danielle (12:04):
was not. He

Siobhan (12:05):
was only a twinkle in hard hard drives.

Unknown (12:10):
It took me forever to get a Facebook, and I don't even
use it anymore, really. And thenit took me forever to get an
Instagramand like, I just learned how to
like like. It's not a filterthing, but you can like,

Danielle (12:24):
Oh, it is a filter.

Unknown (12:32):
Can't see what she just did.
You can just, like, do this.
Like, you can stickers, notstickers, but you can, like,
edit. Are you

Siobhan (12:44):
talking about Snapchatting,

Danielle (12:46):
which is another one I've never had. I tried it. I

Siobhan (12:49):
used to. I still really like Snapchat.

Unknown (12:54):
It's that and like Reddit. Reddit can find
everything or a lotof like, you know what? I've
been drinking. Guys. Helped meshocking I'm doing for you.

Siobhan (13:05):
I know you're drinking for me now I drink

Unknown (13:07):
for you always. I was like, having a conversation with
my brother, like, years ago,years ago. And I was like, bro,
you like this? I saw this weirdvideo on this porn site I'm on,
and he's like, you're on a pornsite.

(13:28):
He's like, Reddit fool. And Iwas

Danielle (13:30):
like, wait, what? It was, just introduced this
concept recently, because

Unknown (13:33):
I wasn't in on Reddit, like, the same, right? And then
he was like, yeah, just type inwhatever you want. Okay, cool.
It's just a bunch of fuckinggifts.
The same thing for 10 seconds,and get it, yeah, like 30
seconds. So I want to pull it.
That's for some people. That'sall it takes to

(13:58):
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site, x in xx.com take care ofall your needs, gay, straight,
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Danielle (14:15):
remember when you say, that's why I think so funny that
you still see these infomercialsfor like, the one 800 phone
stacks, like, Who the is stillcalling that, because the dudes

Unknown (14:24):
that pay for it think that they're not going to get
traced, even though,

Danielle (14:27):
I mean, that's kind of a silly question, I guess,
because people pay for only fansand now, well, now as, hey, you
know what? Let them girls andwhoever get show money, because
you ain't paying off. Or

Unknown (14:39):
whoever first started, we used to barter for brownies,
rice, rice,

Siobhan (14:44):
Krispies. Wait. You were bartering for desserts from
your

Unknown (14:47):
only fan started. It was a bake sale. No.
They asked me out. I get none ofthat problem.
The fudge got a little too hotfor my endorphins today. Thank

(15:08):
you. Fudge gota little too hot while someone
was filming it, and then you gotTwo Girls One Cup. Is that a
real name, obviously. Well,

Danielle (15:22):
it's fairly straight, yeah. Like, that seems like a
very distinct last name,

Siobhan (15:27):
like Angela white.
She's in a bunch of stuff. Oh, Ifucking love her. I love her.
And, like, you know, I listen toher daddy, Daniels.

Unknown (15:43):
I don't think my brother's pocket.

Danielle (15:47):
We're just giving helpful tips. Now,

Unknown (15:49):
every time Holly and I sit down, we're gonna have to
talk about Mom, don't listen. Mybrother's favorite. Well, I
don't know if it's his favorite.
I don't know if he has one. Nowhe feels like he's dead inside.
That says that 2020, 20, 2019No, 2020, his favorite porn star
was Tanya Trump. Oh, wow, oh,she, she took on the the No, no,

(16:22):
I guess she took on the name asa joke.

Danielle (16:26):
Yeah, I will

Unknown (16:28):
definitely look up.
Y'all can't see what I'm saying.
Well, my face looks like but shebad, and she probably clean

Danielle (16:38):
too. She looks like she showers.

Siobhan (16:40):
That's always good.
Well, Angela, wait, like alwayslooks like she's like she's
having fun. And then I was in,like, enjoying it. She's Yeah,
and then I well, and then shewas on a podcast, and she's
talking about how, like, shereally is, and she's like, Yeah,
I'm not, like, why would I do itif I'm not enjoying well? And I
was like, now I like her porneven more. Yeah, no. And

Danielle (16:56):
I think there's something except for that,
because there's sometimes I'vetried to watch, and in
particular, like, especially ifyou're watching, like, lesbian
porn, and you can tell that it'sjust for the male gaze. Yeah,
and it's that's not, you're notreally in this you're doing it
for a paycheck, which, by allmeans, but we'll get your money.
But I'm not getting off becauseyou look like you're faking it
with a woman, which I don't wantto see that it's gonna be fake
it with a dude, at least that'smore believable,

Unknown (17:20):
if you don't know anatomy, is anatomy okay, if you
are with a chick and y'all can'tget somewhere near there, I'm
trying to be nice, because Iknow I just I learned recently
that some women just literallycannot orgasm. I know, yeah,

Siobhan (17:36):
I have a friend that's like, you know, she's in her
40s, and she was sayingsomething. She's like, Yeah, my
dude never makes me and I waslike, what? Why is he your dude?
Then, yeah. And I was like, buttell me you do by yourself. And
she was like, Well, I mean, andI was like, then you are not
like, I feel like we need to gohave a class. You need to find
an expert. Like, it's it,

Unknown (17:54):
it's a medical condition. Shitty ass medical
condition. Well, would yourather have that medical
condition or this one that I canalso know about where you This
dude just comes every 30seconds. Oh,

Danielle (18:05):
man. How do you even function? Oh, there was

Siobhan (18:07):
a Grey's Anatomy about some chick that does that, and

Unknown (18:10):
they were filming him who had his wedding. He's like,
I love you forhe's like, here's my Oh, my God,
I gotta find that video.
It's, it's probably a decade orso old, but Reddit
will be like, this is the guy'sname. His wife's not mad about

(18:33):
it,as long as it stays hard, okay,
I'm tired, not my eye again.
My hair. Bradley,I just got it done.

Danielle (18:47):
Although no. Maya, yeah, no. My, my, my friend who
was up here from LA last weekendthe first she's laughing because
she knows who it is, because thefirst time we met. So I'm not
gonna, I'm not gonna name namesI don't know, like he didn't
actually listen to my lastepisode, so I don't know that he
won't listen this one, butwhatever, it's a fun time. It's

(19:11):
good. It's very dark in here,growing

Unknown (19:13):
our own reality. Hey, nice. Look at

Danielle (19:20):
that. Smooth, smooth.
But no, the first time we metand hooked up, I had just gotten
my hair done, like that week,like it was freshly braided, and
so I straight up told you cantouch anything else. Don't touch
my fucking hair. Like and hewas, you know, he was good about
it, guys, some good and therewere not a lot of boundaries.

(19:42):
But that was one, and it

Unknown (19:45):
was respected. He

Siobhan (19:48):
ended up just punching her in the

Unknown (19:51):
stomach. That dick somewhere else

Siobhan (19:56):
watches. I'm gonna bring it all, all over that. So
I was at the bar, like, I don'tknow, two weeks, three weeks ago
now, and this, like, it's a kindof a quieter night, but like,
it's starting to pick up, andthese two beautiful women come
in, and I'm pretty sure they'reon a date, and it's like,
probably a mixed chick and ablack chick. I did I was just,
like,

Unknown (20:17):
coming every Thursday,

Siobhan (20:21):
and like, so they come in and I'm waiting, someone, and
then this older white woman thatcomes into the bar, you know,
the bat and smells, see whitepeople, and like, she's like,
Oh, look at your hair, becausethe black Chick Hat is
beautiful. And I was like, Icould see it happening. And I'm
like, No, and I'm like, No. AndI was like, you guys know me.
Like, I was like, No. And as I'mhanding the woman her beer. I'm

(20:41):
like, I can see the white ladycoming over. And I was like,
sorry, I'm gonna beat that partout. And like, I look at the
girl, and I just hand her orwoman, and I hand her beer, and
I'm like, I'm sorry. And shelooks at me, kind of confused.

(21:02):
And then she sees the like,woman coming at her. She has no
home training. And then she'slike, she's like, Oh my god,
your hair is so beautiful. Andyou know, the woman's very
gracious at first, and she'slike, can I and I was like, no.
She's asking. I'm yelling nofrom behind the bar. And she
looks at me and she looks at meand like, kind of like, taking

(21:23):
it back, and the woman is sonice about it. And was like, and
she's like, but why not? Andlike, because it's fucking
weird. And like, she looks atme, and I was like, so confused.
And I didn't even mean to like,be that like, but I was just
like, I can't believe this ishappening in a bar in 2024 you
know, many times I wish her morewhite people

Unknown (21:43):
a serious ask question, yeah. Okay, so I don't know if
you guys heard this, but there'slike a taco bar up on Webster.
They just call themselves tacopatrol, and their their literal
banner is Donald Trump, oh,driving a truck with Kim Jong Un
and Putin in the back. I saw iton peeps, oh my God. And I was,

(22:08):
like, just reading the comments,yeah, the tea, whatever. And,
like, I noticed that Hello,white people were like, This is
not cool. Fuck this. Go. Fuckyourselves. And then, like,
hello, Latin dudes that I knowfrom the town are like, what's
wrong with that? It's fine. Andso now I'm like, Okay, well,
this is obviously a Mexican ownrestaurant, and Mexicans are

(22:31):
supporting it, but Hello, whitepeople are like, this is not
cool, right? So like, what doyou guys think about that? Like,

Danielle (22:38):
white supremacy is internalized in a lot of people.
That's like, you Well, I think,eight times, which is equivalent
to an orgasm. Apparently nottrue. I know it's definitely

Unknown (22:57):
not true. That's something that a

Danielle (23:00):
lot of men will say to make themselves feel better.
Themselves feel better. Uh, no.
But, like, in all seriousness,though, I really think there is
something to be said for thatbeing the case, because there's
also, I mean, Latinos are in amonolith, you know, like Latinx
folks, it's the same as, like,there are white Latinx folks,
like humans, don't necessarilyconsider themselves to be,
quote, unquote, Hispanic.

(23:22):
UNQUOTE Hispanic or whatever, soI think to but if you I don't
know, I can't only say so muchbecause I'm not of that
community, so I can't speak to

Siobhan (23:32):
also that. Like, do you think it's overstepping Well, or
do you think it's just like,people are like, isn't like? Are
they trying to, like, poke funat all of that? You know what I
mean? Like, is it done in like,satire or, like, yeah, like,
what? What else? You know what Imean? Like, kind of thought it
was satirical, like, because Imight think it's a funny joke,
you know what I mean. But ifsomeone was serious and was
like, woo hoo. Like, then I'mlike,

Unknown (23:52):
the comments, you'd be like, at first, like, the first,
like couple comments were like,okay, yeah, that's really not
cool. But they're like, afterseeing like, Latin responses who
are just, like, two, like, supercool. It's like, I had a friend
who was German, Irish, whatever.
Like, we've been together. Wework together, yeah. And I'd be

(24:12):
joking around with, like, someof my friends who are look just
like me. And I'd be like, Yeah.
And she like, I don't like whenyou say that, what, fuck you.
And she's like, I don't like itwhen you say the N word. I'm
like, why? And she's like, it'sreally offensive. I'm like, too.
And she's like, I just think ifwe're going to come through in

(24:33):
community, like, we should stopusing slang. And I'm like,

Danielle (24:37):
I can kind of German, Irish background. Got it? Okay?

Siobhan (24:41):
I just say as the token in the room. I don't like that
word either, but I don't like itbecause I have so many friends
or grew up with so many blackpeople that didn't like that
word. Yeah, so like, I know thatit can make some black people
really uncomfortable. So like, Idon't so like, I don't want
people using it in my bar. Butif, like, three black dudes come
in. And they're yelling at it,not yelling, but like, they are

(25:02):
talking to each other, and it'snot, it's not your way. I'm
saying, like, if they're justchatting with each other and
they're using it, I'm not gonnasay anything. If they, if they
get into a fight and they startyelling at each other, then I'm
gonna step and be like, Yo, stopusing that word in my bar like
that. Yeah. I mean, like, Ithink tone sometimes has some
things

Unknown (25:18):
between, like, it being friendly being derogatory, yeah,
right. It's also, like,confusing in this community,
because it's like, oh, you'regonna call him a dumb nigga, and
then be like, Oh, this is mynigga, right? Yeah? Which I
don't use nigga very often.
Same. I use it when I'm withDanielle. It's very

Danielle (25:35):
I mean, honestly, no, it is. I mean, I used to use a
lot more when I was younger. AndI'm not gonna say I don't sing
along to every fucking lyric ina Kendrick lavar song or Tupac
or whoever, father

Unknown (25:44):
hated that word oh yeah around him, he would be fucking
pissed. That was the

Danielle (25:48):
thing my dad, too. My dad grew up in time, like when
he moved here, he was part ofthe Great Migration generation.
So, like, it was never somethingthat was really used in a
familial, like friendly way, Imean, kind of still amongst
black folks, but that's the sameas, like, gay people. I've heard
use the F word, and gay men inparticular. I'm not going to sit

(26:09):
there and tell them, please, Idon't like it, like, I don't use
it but, but I unless it startsto be, like, you said, like,
really thrown around in a waywhere I'm like, Hey man, you
know, like, I'm not. It's not. Idon't feel it's necessarily my
place to say something about it.
However, it is weird to havethat come from a white person
when you're just talking amongstother black people for that,
like tone policing and I mightI've checked, I've checked other

(26:31):
minorities from using it. I'vechecked, I've checked black
people from using it. Theyfucking like, find another word,
bro. They're motherfucker. Is agreat word. Samuel Jackson uses
it all the time. I love Mother.
I use it a lot. I use

Unknown (26:44):
it a lot. I don't use the other one. Yeah, no, she's
like, just her clarification.
Siobhan does not drop the N wordever.

Siobhan (26:52):
I'm not saying I haven't in the past, especially
younger, but mostly like

Danielle (26:56):
singing, yeah, exactly. But so yeah, I'm gonna

Unknown (27:02):
be with God. Hey,

Siobhan (27:06):
yeah, we can just pause.

Danielle (27:09):
And actually, you know, our dear friend Matt,
being one of them, and being,like, kind of delving into more
of, how can we solve theseissues, and also, like, why the
Democrats lost, right? And allof you know it's obviously not
ideal, but it's also like, atleast they gave us, they hold us
what they're gonna do in Project2025, so it also gives us a

(27:32):
heads up on how to counter.
There's gotta be stuff

Siobhan (27:35):
that we can do to stop it. Like, yeah, I just, I can't
even, like someone the other daywas like, I can't even believe
it. And I was like, the factthat you can't believe it is the
part that worries me. Like,yeah. Like, I didn't.

Danielle (27:47):
It's the cognitive dissonance that goes along with
the Yeah, yeah. And,

Siobhan (27:50):
like, I thought for real, like, I really was like,
it'll, like, work itself out inthe right way. And like, thanks.
And it just, but I wasn'tshocked. Oh yeah, go for it,
whichever you want to show.
Jimson, no, I still have alittle bit in here. Are you
still responsible? I know socomfortable, they're vented,
like, like, thank you. I knowyou all wish you could see this

(28:15):
room right now.

Unknown (28:18):
Yeah, did you guys hear me peel out?

Siobhan (28:21):
No, so I had, I swapped out batteries just in case,
because we were starting to geta little low. Yeah, an hour
while you were pooping, we were

Unknown (28:29):
it just pushes it out. Like, I know my kidneys are
good. My doctor told me so. Butlike, there's like, I just like,
sometimes I wake up. I'm like, Ididn't even like drink that much
water tonight, and then, andthen they go to the bathroom.
Hey,

Danielle (28:45):
at least it means the kitties are working just fine,
and it's just like, whoa. Ithought I had to pee a little
out. My cat comes in, and she'slike, you good. She's like, No,
honey. Like you good. I lovethis mix of levity with the
series we were, like, talkingabout, you know, racial slurs

(29:06):
and the but that I do think it'sfunny that, or not funny, funny
in a, like, scary way, where alot of people are like, it's the
end of democracy, and where I'mlike, Well, we were never a true
democracy to begin with. No, UShas never we've had this
illusion that we are, right? Soit was fun. Yeah, it was a nice

(29:26):
little we were so I think. Andyou know, this is the double
edged sword media, and this iswhy they want to ban tick tock
or change whatever. And again, Idon't do the tick tock, but I
see I want, I wait for the reelsto show up a week or two later
on Instagram, like a fuckingadult okay,

Unknown (29:47):
I swear to God, it shows up on fucking Instagram,
and then I see it on Reddit. Andmy girls like, no, Reddits
first,

Danielle (29:53):
no, it's the tiki Tok.
It's that one. But it's like, Ithink to. To the fact that we're
seeing like that. That's

Unknown (30:01):
just how women sound in my head.

Danielle (30:06):
Good to know I learned something new about you every
day. CharlieBrown teacher, which is how a
lot of straight cis men willhear us.

Siobhan (30:24):
They're not listening to this podcast the other night.

Unknown (30:30):
I'm glad it was that funny,

Siobhan (30:32):
though, bartenders and he said something, and I was
like, Oh, of course, because yousaid it. And he's like, yeah.
He's like, Yeah, people justlisten to me. I don't know why
not, because you're a tall whitedude who seemed angry all the
time. He's like, you don't haveto say that

Danielle (30:46):
out loud. We've reached a time in a place that
I'm gonna say whatever the fuckI want about white men. Okay,
sorry, I have three brothers whoare and I can say it. Oh, that's
it. That's another uniqueperspective. I'm the only mixed
one out of my siblings. Sothat's so interesting to me.
Dude, I have three brothers whoand I this is, you know,

(31:07):
probably a distasteful joke, buttake it as you will. I would
call them Hitler's tree becausethey're blonde hair and blue
eyed. They look like the massivechildren's cornworks, but not
that one doesn't land the samefor everybody. And when you say
it like that, I have a fucked upsense of humor. I thought it was
funny all the time, but you gotit, you got it. It's funny. Blue

(31:29):
eyes.

Unknown (31:31):
Yes, you are cultured.
You're so cultured, I could tellI made a reference to, like, an
early 90s horror movie. So like,Ben should love me right now,
obviously,

Danielle (31:39):
no, but it's just it lends a unique perspective in
the sense that, oh, a couple ofthem I actually don't really
have much relationship with,because we were just so separate
and so now, and they're, youknow, military and all of this
shit, oh, so yeah, like theywere in Desert Storm and in Iraq
and Afghanistan. And they are,I'm 34 they are 51 yeah, we're

(32:03):
very spread out. For the record,yes, my mom is not the same.
We're not all from the same.
That'd be impossible, because myoldest sister is 67 and my mom
is 74 I'm sorry. Hold on.

Unknown (32:17):
My parents are 14 years we're in a safe space.
Like, okay, my mom is 72 Yeah.
Oh, I think mine is too. Mysister is 41 or 40, because

Danielle (32:30):
that's not her kid, no. But, like, the lack of an
age difference my dad and my dadwas alive to be 88 so, like, he
would have been, he was actuallyolder than Emmett Till, yeah,
yeah, you did that. Yeah.

Unknown (32:46):
Take a minute, get it on the windows.

Danielle (32:50):
It happened, yeah, when my when my I guess, when my
grandmother? All my biologicalgrandparents passed before I was
born. So I didn't actually, youknow, know much about them, but
he told me that his mom movedhim here to California from
Oklahoma because she was afraidhe would get lynched, and he was

Unknown (33:07):
nine when they moved here. So wait, how old are your
grandparents? I mean, sorry,sorry. What year were your
grandparents born

Danielle (33:15):
in? My my grandmother, my paternal grandmother, was
born in 1920 so she was 16 whenshe had my dad, and then his
father, I think, was born in1917 or 1918 so I'm really not
that far removed from, like,slavery. No,

Unknown (33:32):
my sorry to laugh at that when I talk to other, like,
like, you know, folk who aresimilar to me. My My maternal
great grandparents were born inlike, 1886 my granddad was born
in 1908 or six. We don't know,because everybody

Danielle (33:56):
my dad has two different birth certificates,

Unknown (33:58):
yeah. My My grandmother was born in 1924 Okay, and then
it's weird because my mymaternal grandfather, born in
1908 played in the same jazzclub as my paternal great, oh,
wow, that's wild. So they playedat Santa Fe club in Oakland,
California, hey, right next toEsther's orbit room, all that

(34:21):
kind of stuff. But it's crazythat on one side, he's my great
grandfather, on the other side,he's my grandfather, yeah,
that's just crazy to me. It'sreally common in a mixed
Absolutely, like, world that welive

Danielle (34:32):
in. I think that's cool. I think it's more common
than than people like to believehonestly. But

Unknown (34:37):
like, I have friends who are like, Oh yeah, my
fucking great granddad was,like, born in 1933 I'm like, my
grandma was born in 19 right?

Danielle (34:43):
My dad was born in 1936 Yeah, that's so crazy. It's

Unknown (34:47):
wild. Yeah, it's crazy.
And like, I mean, so our, all ofour backgrounds, regardless of
race, are similar because of,like, geography and political
times and, like, especially ifyou're black, especially if
you're Irish, you know? I I sawyour I forgot to grab your
check, but no, that's all right.
I was just like, I know yourlast name, but like, it never
registers to me until I saw yourcheck. And I'm like, that is the

(35:08):
most Irish,

Danielle (35:10):
full on Gaelic name, bro,

Siobhan (35:14):
I'm from Boston, and they're like, Yeah, same

Unknown (35:17):
thing. Well, yeah.
But like, in in our culture, youhave young and you want them to
not have young. Yeah, they do itanyway, yeah? So next, you know,
your great grandma's 46 Yeah?
Like, it's crazy to

Siobhan (35:31):
me, yeah, I have cousins that are older than some
of my aunts and uncles. Yeah, Ihave, because, like, my
grandmother was pregnant at thesame time several her kids were
pregnant. That's true, but

Danielle (35:40):
then it's also, I mean, I think about I have, I
have nieces and nephews who areolder than I am, and then I have
two of my nephews who we grew uplike cousins, because they're
literally, like, a year and twoyears younger than me. Yeah,
that's right, they couldn'tthey, well, they couldn't grasp
when we were kids, they couldn'tunderstand why I would only come
over with grandpa, and theycouldn't understand, like, oh,

(36:01):
wait, you're our grandpa isyou're like, you're my mom's
sister. That doesn't make sense,no, but I have, I like, I have
great nieces and nephews. I'm 34I tell people that, and they're
like, What like that samereaction that Holly has right

(36:21):
now? No, I do. I do. It's kindof wild. I stopped counting how
many I have, because there's somany

Unknown (36:25):
that's, I have a lot, you know, like, if God was real,
he'd be like, Guess what, dude,I'm cutting your shit off at
like, 41

Danielle (36:35):
like, no, no, men, ain't got no time.

Unknown (36:38):
Has a fucking eight month. That's that is that has
to have been, that has to havebeen IVF. There's

Siobhan (36:44):
no, no. She's just young, I know. But, I mean, how,

Danielle (36:47):
like, I don't want to, I don't want to think about, but
you don't have any

Siobhan (36:51):
sex. I mean, I'm not

Danielle (36:57):
him and Robert De Niro. Robert De Niro. Robert De
Niro just had

Unknown (37:03):
a kid. You're looking at me. Look at me. Yeah, talking
to me. Didn't one of

Siobhan (37:07):
the rock and roll guys, just have a kid too, like the
rock and roll guys, RollingStones guys, Mick Jagger didn't.
Mick Jagger just have a kid too.
He's probably got like, 1005

Unknown (37:19):
or five or 10 years ago when he was also 70, which is
not better, but I thought he was8010. Years

Danielle (37:27):
I got a good 20 years out of my

Unknown (37:30):
day. Eight months old is going to be like Papa, and

Siobhan (37:34):
he's gonna be

Danielle (37:36):
like he's gonna look like Jimmy Carter on his y'all
saw that picture

Unknown (37:39):
right? Pile of dust.
Baby Mama won't throw awaybecause she's like, maybe we can
sort it,sell a little bit of it on eBay.
She getting that inheritance. Sonot not the current girlfriend
that has eight month old, butthe ex girlfriend, who just
turned 30 or so, is getting$30,000 a month from him. And
I'm like, Okay, this is why. Imean,

(38:05):
just like, two months, maybe atleast, let me invest some of it.
Yeah, go travel, disrespectfulto lifestyles, but like Al
Pacino has talked about since,like, 1997 like and I royalties
aren't shit anymore. So how thefuck he made millions of dollars
in the 70s? Yeah, no, he's gotall those other movies

Siobhan (38:27):
in the 90s.

Unknown (38:28):
You could tell which ones he did for didn't he do one
with

Siobhan (38:31):
Zach Efron? That's like, the 2000s at least. Okay,
no,

Danielle (38:34):
that was, that was a neuro

Unknown (38:36):
and he probably made, like, dirty a million bucks, a
million bucks between, versusnow in 1970 is like 99 cents and
$1.50 okay? Like, shit isexpensive. There's no way this
motherfucker can, with all hisroyalties, can do $30,000 a
month when he's not, yeah, buthe's

Siobhan (38:53):
also produced a bunch of movies, like, he's had other
things, you know, we

Unknown (38:56):
need to see her financials. Yeah, he, he did,
like,

Siobhan (38:59):
you know, answers. He did commercial.

Danielle (39:05):
Oh, man. Like, no. I mean, okay,

Unknown (39:09):
I'm sorry. Here's the thing, okay, men who have
royalties from barely doingshit, barely acting, they're,
they're gonna pay $30,000 afucking month, right? And then
you got people who like, whatwas her? What's that? She was an
actress, and then she marriedthe Pepsi mogul.

Danielle (39:26):
That nervous,

Unknown (39:28):
yeah, because she was, she was like, not, not Faye
Dunaway, it's like, it's like,some they

Danielle (39:33):
don't like, Damn you, taking it way back. I am old.
No. I mean, we all

Siobhan (39:37):
know who Fay Donovan, I know. Well, there's a monitor
right there. I just got hookedup.

Danielle (39:45):
That's your phone.
That's your phone. You have acomputer in your hands. Talk
about Bo Derek so

Unknown (39:50):
Alfred Steele married Joan Crawford.
Oh, no. Way back, no, but shelike no.
But despite all. The fuckingRealty she had, she was fucking
broke,

Siobhan (40:03):
yeah, she was also on drugs, wasn't she

Danielle (40:06):
even wasn't against, am I not okay? So I know, I
know. Thanks, sugar mama. No, Ithink there's, I don't know. I
just, I think it depends on thesituation. I also, I also have
friends who I actually, when Iwent to Philly a couple years

(40:29):
ago, I went for their wedding.
They're both from Philly. Theymet at the bar I used to work at
in San Francisco, the redJackson. Go check it out Bay in
Stockton. I will promote themforever. Are you wearing the
shirt I am? Actually, I wasthere yesterday after work was
great. But no, they are, like2022, years apart. And I mean,
they're doing well. They're nothome together. They moved back

(40:50):
to Philly during COVID, andthat's where a bunch of us went
out for their wedding. And Ijust remember the first time
because I used to work with thischick prior to them meeting.
Okay? And so knowing her likedating history prior to this and
then. But also, oddly enough,because the city is so small, I
didn't know that there was apoint in time where I had moved

(41:13):
into an apartment on TreasureIsland, where my then roommate
was the dude she moved to SanFrancisco from Philly with, Oh,
wow. It was super random. I waslike, how? And I didn't know
until we had, like, a fuckinghouse party, and I had a bunch
of my my co workers from thatsame job there. I don't want to
give that company A shout out,because I don't even do that.
It's a corporate place on Pier39 I'll leave it at that.

(41:36):
There's a lot of themeverywhere, and it's not Bubba
Gump. I love allude to it. Theyhave a guitar shaped hotel
wherever you go in major cities.
So,

Unknown (41:51):
oh, I got friends with the one up. Let's go

Danielle (41:57):
chain the air bomb, and then they play Forrest Gump
on a loop. Apparently they usedto do it with the sound on I was
like, That's fucking depressing.
And also, do you edit it?
Because people bring their kidsto this

Unknown (42:09):
shit. Jenna, would you like some more pops, like New
Year's?

Siobhan (42:16):
Jenny's just getting rare,

Danielle (42:20):
getting thrown around by the guy who's supposed to be
like, the the good hippie, andhe's actually like, a woman
beater, and they're like, thisis what commies actually do.

Unknown (42:29):
Hippy in the 60s was they beat women, every

Danielle (42:33):
one of them. My mother was married to a hippie. I mean,
I'm not surprised. Misogyny runsdeep. It doesn't matter what you
call Yeah, it does for those soyou can have white men those
tacos. Thanks, you better actright. Take all the tacos.

Unknown (42:53):
Oh, we're Yes. This would be a fun editing process
for you. We cut a lot, or wekeep it all 30 minutes a

Siobhan (43:04):
whole new demographic.
It really

Danielle (43:06):
is. They're gonna reach all the demographics with
all of the subject matter we

Unknown (43:10):
covered so many confused in cells and horny
lesbians.
Which way do we go with this andlike,
allies, like, what are they?
They're not wrong, but it's notright. Yeah,

Danielle (43:20):
welcome to the craziness that is my mind crazy
the relative term you're wrong,yeah, yeah, I feel like crazy is
a relative term. In this day and

Siobhan (43:29):
age, we're moving and shaking. We are back up and
running.

Danielle (43:34):
Yeah, my mother in

Siobhan (43:38):
law is being nice, curious to mother in law, yeah,
I mean, mine's dead. I'mdivorced, but

Danielle (43:45):
this will be maybe one day I'll have one, but

Siobhan (43:50):
we'll see mine died right right after I left. Oh
yeah, that was an uncomfortablefuneral. I'm sure, God damn,
people had it. Didn't know Ileft. I just told the story to
someone else the other day, andI was like, Yeah, I'm like, I'm
walking and I'm at the funeral,and like, her sister in law
comes over to me and was like,we didn't even know. And I was
like, What do you mean? She'slike, No one knew you left. And

(44:11):
I was like, Grandma knew. Andgrandma just looked at me and
looked

Unknown (44:13):
away. She's like, you, grandma. I didn't want to tell

Siobhan (44:16):
nobody. I mean, I think, no, I think my ex husband
really thought I was just goingto come back. Well,

Danielle (44:20):
I learned more about your your backstory when I
listened to your episode withDonna, oh, yeah, because I
didn't know a lot of that stuff.
And which, I mean, to be fair,it's understandable. It's a lot
of shit, and it's a lot of heavysubjects and things I

Siobhan (44:35):
don't talk about it that much like someone the other
day was like, You were married?
And I was like, Yeah. And theywere like, what? And I was like,
what? Like, why is that so?
Like, I was kind of insulted.
I'm like, You don't know me thatwell. Why is it so shocking to
the guys married? No,

Unknown (44:47):
no, you told me. And I was like, Oh, yeah. Things don't
work out.

Siobhan (44:51):
Yeah? He was like, well, but they were like, I
can't picture you married. And Iwas like, I don't know how to
take that.

Unknown (44:56):
Yeah. I can, like, well fed, yeah? Right. Great,

Danielle (45:02):
caregiver. Good. No, I think maybe it's just because I
don't know. I don't I get, Imean, that's almost kind of a
weird thing of somebody to say.
It's like, okay, I'm actuallymarried. It's like, why? Because
you don't think someone want

Unknown (45:13):
to marry me. Yeah, that's what I mean, I didn't
know how to take it so fiercelyindependent. I think that's
probably the latter. I was gonnasay the latter, yeah, because, I
think because I've had, becausewhen I met you, you're like, I
don't need no man. Yeah, I mean,like, like, no, it's
hard. I just want to go back tothat's how every woman sounds.
No. It's just like, I don't needno man. Like, long term, like,

(45:34):
for a night. Guess what? Funweekend. I was like, Okay, get
out. Why are you here? I usedto, I had a

Danielle (45:42):
run in my early 20s where I was like, we ain't
cuddling. Oh.

Siobhan (45:46):
Like, I have never had that run. Like, I want to like,
I want to like, like, at onepoint when I started to start
dating, Ben, was like, I lovethat. I'm here for your sexual
revolution. And I was like, Canyou let me know in the
revolution,

Unknown (45:57):
I'm so frustrated.
He calls me the toaster shoe,and I respect
that she been coming out withthese quips, bro, I swear to
God, the touch of the two we allhave like it. I haven't told him

(46:20):
this, but,

Danielle (46:22):
oh, wait, no, I need to know. Yeah, so how did his
name come about? He gives me

Unknown (46:26):
nicknames every week.
But he said, toaster like,that's the one. And he said, you
like it, that's all. I said, Ilike it, but, you know, I like
it. Why? Because the toastershield was German, because I'm
German, and the toaster makes

Siobhan (46:43):
you are a toaster.
Strudel pregnancy. Ding, I'mgoing to Germany in May. I know
I'm so excited about me. Yeah,it'll be my third year I go to
Germany. I've never

Danielle (46:53):
so I met a couple different parts, but we gotta,
yeah, like, I'd like to go toplaces before World War Three
starts. Um, I don't know

Unknown (47:01):
if we can make it before Tuesday,
anywhere before January, 20 of2025,
world war three. Wherever yougo, you say, what

Danielle (47:14):
does that mean?

Unknown (47:19):
I don't know. I know,

Siobhan (47:24):
my first year I went to Germany, there's videos me
bartending behind a bar. I donot remember any of it. I only
know it happened because I havethe videos of it on my phone.
That's

Danielle (47:33):
amazing. I've always wanted to go. I am a quarter
German. I've always wanted to mymy mom's maiden. Actually, I'm
not going to say it. You canbleep it out. I'll tell you
guys, it's very German. But Ialso wonder exactly No, Myers
part of the name, though, butit's also, they came over.

(47:56):
She's, she's second generation.
No, they're, they're definitely,she's, she's German. Do not

Siobhan (48:00):
hear about her brothers,

Danielle (48:05):
Norwegian and their dad was Irish, though it was so.
But also, a lot of shit gotmisspelled or changed at Ellis
Island too. Yeah. So there's soyou know, it's American people,
the same as Meyer, like, OscarMeyer, M, A, M, a, y, E, R, oh,
Mayor Meyer. But it's pronouncedMeyer, you know, like, yeah. So

(48:29):
I wonder English, okay, no, butI just, I just wonder if maybe
they were of a certain culturaland religious background that
they decided to fucking leavebefore some shit

Unknown (48:41):
in King of England.
They're all German descent,yeah, because they're Saxons.
Saxons our episodes.
You know, how you get rid ofthe smell this gun sacrifice.
That exact response shedid. She's like, how about this?

(49:07):
Get ready for badger zone. Itwasn't just my flame.
Every day

Danielle (49:19):
is going to be bad.
Just I do really. I've alwayswanted to go to Germany. I've
always been interested in goingto Norway.

Siobhan (49:27):
Do you know these don't work. They're just really low. I
turned them down before I tookthem off because

Unknown (49:34):
you have another tech issue.
I turn them down because when Iput them on the table and
they're

Danielle (49:43):
actually, I remember telling it really this table of
Norwegians that came in when Iused to work at a certain place
on Pier 39 that again, owned bya company that has guitar shaped
hotels. Take what you boughtfrom that we talked about it.
There's one. In every there'sone in Vegas, there's one in
Orlando.

Siobhan (50:04):
I love to say that I know what it is, and I kind of
think I do know what it

Unknown (50:08):
is forever. It's fucking hard

Danielle (50:11):
rock. They actually have Cirque du Soleil. I wish
some flexible bitches there

Unknown (50:20):
on top of them. Do top of them. She's like, wow,

Danielle (50:25):
I go to dance class.
Ho, I get my stamina. No,

Unknown (50:28):
that's why you sucked on sticky thing.
No, no, because I was tired. Iworked a fucking 16 hours. Did
you just say you fell asleep onsomeone? No, I did not no
sticky, thick.

Danielle (50:43):
So there's this chick we'll get back to, I guess the
other thing I was talking about,no, have you met us? ADHD, we're
on the spectrum, bro, we'll getback.

Unknown (50:56):
Maybe that's the name of our monthly episode or
whatever. And I'm drinking,

Danielle (51:03):
that's all right. I'm sure the audience enjoys it, and
I'm not even, I wasn't eveninhaling the bomb for that. I'm
just, I'm still

Unknown (51:14):
coughing for the last one. No,

Danielle (51:15):
so no, no. Now I totally forgot what I was
talking about. No, okay, no,

Unknown (51:20):
I was talking to Germans and a white girl that I
was talking to anyway. Why isshe going to be white? Because
she's a white girl.
So, y'all, we are trying, butwe're just having too much fun.

Danielle (51:42):
You know, we'll cover all all spectrums of topic. I
call her my reparations.

Unknown (51:53):
Oh, my God. I made that joke right after January. Oh my
I made that joke to a bunch ofblack dudes when he was getting
it. Dudes.

Siobhan (52:08):
I was working for this again, it was company, and I was
like, doing computer work. Allthe dudes were downstairs, and
it was like, Yep, the samenails, though.

Danielle (52:21):
Fucking great. You all are welcome. Enjoy it. You
needed a laugh. Here you go. Ohmy god.

Siobhan (52:27):
Like January 6, it just happened, and the dudes come in
and they're all like, talkingabout all the crazy white people
that just stormed the Capitoland all this stuff. And what my
boss is like, Siobhan, youSiobhan? And I could hear them
talking about all the crazywhite people. So I was just
like, I don't want

Unknown (52:42):
to come out. You. Up, because they're not making
Siobhan like this, okay,differently. It looks a whole
different way. Oh, Siobhan,

Siobhan (52:50):
she's super cool. Like I talked to her earlier, like
she was super helpful. And hewas like, yeah. He's like, Well,
I don't know why she's not goingover. So when they I walked over
it, and two the dudes were like,and it did, like a jump back one
of the guys, like, Dude, yourSiobhan is white.

Unknown (53:07):
And I go, Yeah, I Yeah.
Just reparations. Everyone getsa white
girl dead. Oh, my God, sorry. Mypeople just com has their
higher subscription. Pleasesubscribe and you'll get 50%

(53:39):
off your subscription. It's upto you to know how to spell it
depend on your reparationspromo code.

Danielle (53:52):
Oh, my God, I have to.
That makes me think of a and I'mdefinitely paraphrasing, because
this is not my joke, but I have,but I have fucked a lot of white
guys

Unknown (54:03):
I know right.
By the way,if you want to see who Daniel
fucks this weekend, come tofire, he isn't white.

(54:23):
The Flash was on. He had prettypale skin. Anyway. Fireside.com,

Siobhan (54:29):
firecrackers

Unknown (54:33):
out there.
Fireside.com,

Danielle (54:37):
oh, my god. Nicole Byron, who I love very much, has
this joke about so she has aspecial on Netflix called Big,
beautiful weirdo, and I love herso fucking much. Speaking of
having a podcast that goes allover the place her, and she says
she or ZEDA, have their bestfriends podcast, which is very
similar to what's going on rightnow, or they just talk, I've

(54:58):
known it was made. He's don't,but I don't know, but it's
fucking great, and it kind ofreminds me of like, this
dynamic, yep, basically does.
And they'll take like, Buzzbuzzfeed quizzes together to see
if they get the same answer,like, choose your choose the
dessert that figures out whichDisney character you're supposed
to be, or whatever. But she hasa joke in her special where she
talks about how, you know,certain black people had white

(55:21):
friends who called them a bunchduring the protests of 2020 and
basically, like, how can I bebetter? How can I help keep me?
Yeah, give me fucking money. Howmany commissions do we need to
have to figure out if we needfucking reparations, bro, come
on. I mean, let's do this. Ididn't mean to ruin that. I just
like, No, it's okay, I wasn'tthere yet. Is that what you Is
that what you tell the dudes,whatever, yeah, we weren't there

(55:44):
yet, or it just is never goingto happen. Or both, you tell
them both, I'm not there

Unknown (55:53):
yet, unless you hear like, but anyway,

Danielle (55:55):
she said she was offended that none of the white
men that she had booked calledher during this time. She's
like, it's nothing personal. Ijust missed the feeling of
privilege inside me.

Unknown (56:13):
But no, I know I dated enough of them to know this. Oh,
wait, Chad's behind me,

Danielle (56:17):
and I actually did have a roommate named Chad, who
was from Boston, though, theyall say they're from Boston, but
they're like, outside or from,like, fucking Cape Cod. But
people don't think that. Peoplelive in Cape Cod. Of course, he
was a blonde, white dude. I justwant you to know, like, I'm re
watching, like, below

Unknown (56:37):
like, I'm on season one below deck. There's a Chad,
there's always a

Danielle (56:42):
chat on a fucking boat. There's, I work with a
guy. His

Unknown (56:46):
name is CJ, but I think his name is like, Chad Jonathan,

Siobhan (56:49):
oh, two first names.

Unknown (56:52):
Chad Jonathan, like, I'm watching season one. I'm
like,

Siobhan (56:56):
I gave my number to a boat captain the other day, and
we were talking the weather day,yeah, like three days ago, like,
when he was telling me aboutwhat he did, and I was like, Oh,
my God, you've been like, belowdeck. He was a boat captain,
like, in the like, islands andall over the world, nothing yet

(57:18):
waiting for us to go out onpaper, watch

Unknown (57:20):
that boat. Your phone.
I've already said

Siobhan (57:26):
some dirty things,

Danielle (57:33):
like, who took your phone?

Unknown (57:36):
Yeah, code switches too. Okay,

Siobhan (57:39):
so we, I only learned about code switching, like,
recently, like, in the last,like, I'd say, like, I mean,
probably the last decade. Like,I didn't, like, I do it, but I
didn't know I did it. Like, Ididn't know there was a name for
it, yeah. I mean, like, Yeah,that's

Danielle (57:52):
right, because I didn't know you were, I didn't
even know you were fromMassachusetts when we first met,
because she, I mean, when wevery first see her and Donna and
get fucking drunk on a Sunday.
So, you know,

Unknown (58:05):
how do you from Boston?
I mean,

Danielle (58:09):
she will fucking let you know, no,

Unknown (58:13):
bring you to your bottom. It's rung with the best
insult, oh,

Danielle (58:17):
yeah, that's true.
They are very Oh, they're verygood about that. She's

Unknown (58:21):
like, Oh, those your shoes. Yeah, your mom bought
that because, you know what?
She's fucking poor shit. Youknow, guess what? She can't
cook, by the way, love yousweat. It also, fix you bun.
Okay, thank you. Like,

Siobhan (58:36):
I made a joke about Trish, you know, our city
council. And I was saying, howIrish, I wanted to get T shirts
of her. And they were in some Iwas like, in support of her, I
go nowhere in the bush.

Unknown (58:50):
Oh, I've seen that video. Speaking of Reddit,
speaking of Reddit, you couldfind that on Reddit, well,

Siobhan (58:54):
they go though, that's so mean. And I was like, mean. I
was like, Dude, if we were inBoston, I would have mugs, they

Unknown (58:59):
would be pins, there would be t shirts. We'd have
trading cards of differentframes. We would have, like,
laughed her out of the

Siobhan (59:06):
house. I'm like, Yeah, people are still trying to
defend her,

Unknown (59:09):
like, say something real quick. Of course, you guys,
you you all three of us here, wedrink Yes, hardcore Yes. Drink,
hardcore Yes. We're funny. We'rebeautiful. Great, yeah. But that
video of Trish,

Danielle (59:22):
yeah. Like, so bad.
No, we're not bleeping thisbitch's name. Get reelected.

Unknown (59:26):
When is the last time, thankfully, you were so fall
down drunk. Like, like,honestly, when's the last time
you were fall down drunk thatyou could not fucking figure out
where

Danielle (59:38):
the fuck you were?
Maybe 22

Unknown (59:41):
or 23 I'm gonna say, but it

Danielle (59:44):
didn't happen. I mean, I'm pretty functional. It's a
double edged sword. But I don'tknow that I've left. I never
shit myself. I can tell you thatyou can find a police report. I

Siobhan (59:57):
have peed my parents. I have peed on the. Side of many
roads.

Unknown (01:00:01):
I haven't peed my parents since like 29 but I
should be fall down drunk,right?

Siobhan (01:00:08):
Oh, so I have a question. Is this because you
think, are you gonna, like, doyou think she was roofied?
Because that's like, thestoryline, no, okay,

Unknown (01:00:15):
if I'm gonna waste a roofie, if I'm gonna waste a
roof Oh, to waste a roof.
Me two people I know,also me too. But here's the
thing, if I was in acircumstance where I had a
roofie and I had an opportunityto use one which is disgusting,
I say that, yeah, condone daterape. Obviously, I would

(01:00:36):
probably, to be honest with you,that would not be my first
choice. No, my first choicewould be like, like, a
overwhelmingly stimulated redfox. Or like, because they're so
cute and they roll around somuch, comedian, guy, red fox.

(01:01:02):
All also good album, but no, butI appreciate the red fox COVID.
It's either that or, like a veryfeisty ginger chick. I don't
knowmy friends and ginger and she's,
she's been reviewed multipletimes, like, luckily, she was
with me. But also, when she wasRuby, she's fucking annoying.

(01:01:23):
She's just like, I'm gonna stayup. I'm like, No, but she just
have two pairs here passed out.
She's like, No, we're gonnaredecorate the house. I'm like,
okay, that's crack. Butif I hadn't called that a little
bit, to be fair,if I were gonna, like, if
somebody hadn't me a roofie.
Like, what do you call Mickey's?
Mickeys? Because no more thanone. But once again, I have the

(01:01:47):
great WebSite X next,they're not getting me like,
yeah, no,

Danielle (01:02:00):
sponsored by one of these. And I could, I could, I
could, I knew we did

Unknown (01:02:05):
all night long time that is true. I mean, I
could just diddle myself allnight long, not have any
repercussions or fears. But Icould go, there you go, but you
wouldn't remember it because youwere roofing. Do I want to
remember it? Siobhan, do I wantto remember what I look up
tonight?

Siobhan (01:02:22):
No, absolutely, I do have a question. So wait, so you
think Trish? Because like me,I'm assuming that you think
Trish was just super hammered. Ithink she was. Did you see the
video? I haven't. I haven't seenall of it. I've seen a couple
clips of it. I will pull thevideo right now.

Unknown (01:02:37):
She is, you, Anthony,

Siobhan (01:02:39):
right? And

Unknown (01:02:40):
not once in the video, she really lift her head. And
not once the minute she said,Oh, I think someone hit me. Oh,
I I fell down. Oh, I think I wasassaulted. No, no. It wasn't
until after she was like,escorted by the EMS, yep, and
and word came through Reddit,yeah, of her, of her behavior,
it's trying to cover her as whenshe finally admitted about, I

(01:03:03):
think it was eight days later,yeah, she said, like, a mini
state Oh, I appreciate yourguys' support. Like I was
assaulted that night. And thenpeople kept commenting, like,
there's a report, no, there's areport of an assault, right? And
she's like, well, I'm prettysure it was. And everyone's
like, Well, why don't you changethe cops? And she was, like, in
my mindset, I was hit so hard inthe head. It's like, on the

(01:03:25):
pavement when you trip in yourugly ass, thick ass heels.
Nobody wears wedges.

Danielle (01:03:31):
And that's to like, that's something that though,
like, really is shitty too, forsomeone to use that as, like,
I'm using this as an excuse.
It's like, no. I mean, we allsee that you have a problem. We
know everybody knows she's beenusing it, and she's been using
it, and then it's, I just findthat to be as, I mean, you know,
most women, most a lot ofpeople, especially you know,
queer people, brown people, allthese things have been

(01:03:52):
assaulted. Like, that's just,that's just a fact of life.
Unfortunately, we get assaulted.

Siobhan (01:03:58):
Well, my next question was going to be like, have, have
you been roofied? Because youjust, I have, yeah, I fought
hella people. I just got into a,like, a casual conversation from
at the bar the other night aboutpeople being reviewed, and,
like, the amount of women thatwere sitting there. It was like,
Oh, yeah. Well, this Yeah. And,like, it was like, not even
women being scary. It was like,two of us were kind of talking,

(01:04:18):
but like, I was working, so wewere, you know, talking a
couple. You could hear it at thebar. And then, like, this woman
chimed in, and then this womanchimed in, and then this woman
down here chimed in, and two ofthe dudes sitting at the bar
were so fucking shocked, and notone of us blinked an eye that
all of us had been refeed at onepoint. Yeah, way more common.
And like, one of the dudeslooked at me, and I was like,
you don't want to ask us, Howmany of us have been raped? And
he just, like, looked at me,yeah. And I was just like, and

(01:04:40):
all of us were just like, okay,change up subject. Now, like,
just got a

Danielle (01:04:44):
little too real, like they're seeing like a drunk girl
at the bar, and like, Oh, thisguy's gonna like, but it's so
rare that they intervene. Theynever question it. They're like,
Oh, well, he's just taking herhome to be safe. And I was like,
Well, does she know this guy? Isthis her friend? And even if it
is her friend, how? Do we knowthat she's making it home
safely? I don't trust it unlessshe's leaving with another
friend. That's a chick, to behonest, most of

Unknown (01:05:06):
the time, right time, yeah, but and then now you have
to worry. But there's also,like, references of women being
your friend and taking yourdude. My first one, absolutely,
my first time I got re feed waswhen it was still the popping.

Danielle (01:05:20):
Was that a bar, you guys know,

Unknown (01:05:23):
some Park Street across from, like, I guess it's a
Japanese bar. Now, okay, butit's called the pop in, okay?
And you know, it was one of thefucking daytime bars, you know,
openness museum. So a friend ofmine, a friend and I had a fake
ID, the bartenders were eitherrecovering from myth, but I

(01:05:43):
walked in with our fake IDs, andI didn't get fuck because money,
money. I just remember, becausewhen you walk in, it was a
church war. Now it was Moe's NowMoses closed, but they're like,
you walk in the door and there'sa wall. This is wrong. I was 18,
so it's like, 18 years ago. Youwalk in, and we walk in, there's
a pool table in the back, andthere's a guy in a fucking

(01:06:07):
viking helmet, Jesus sword. Wow,wow. No, so this is, this is
like, 2000 No, andeight. It's a good lord, yeah,
it was like 18 or something, or19, I don't know, but he's like,
just swinging around and like,the bartenders are doing shit.
They're like, Oh, that's, that'sinsane. That's Mickey, I don't
know, right? So me and my friendKayla walk in, and we're just

(01:06:30):
like, we had just gotten herfake ideas to work. So the
bartender checks him, and shegives us vaca sodas each she
drink, she downs, hers, I downmine. There's a bunch of guys
behind us. And like, mind you,like my friend Kayla, was 18,
skinny, yeah, brown hair, tall,and I'm just, I'm me, I'm

(01:06:53):
chubby, I'm black. I don't careyou think so much, she goes, I
don't feel good. And I said, Oh,and she's like, let's just walk
home. And I was living oversightat the time, so we walked past
my job at spider farmer,stumbled into my house, and she

(01:07:16):
went to bed. I went to bed. Shehad to go to work the next day
at Volvo in San Leandro. She'slike, I feel like shit. I was
like, I feel like shit too, butI got to sleep till four because
I didn't work till four. So shecalled me, and she's like, Oh,
give me a sandwich from Dominicaor not Dominicans, Jonathan's. I
was like, bet. So I brought hersand. She's like, I really feel
like shit. I was like, so do Iand then, like, she's like, pull

(01:07:39):
up your receipt

Danielle (01:07:42):
history. Your only had, like, one or two, just the
one. Our total

Unknown (01:07:47):
was $14 so in 2009 this is probably three drinks, yeah,
yeah, right. And she's like, wedidn't walk in drunk. I was
like, No. And she's like, butwhy did we leave so up, and I
was like, it took us years tofigure it out at the time, like
in, at least in our community,like nobody ever talked about,

(01:08:09):
I'm

Danielle (01:08:10):
still not, like, widely talked about.

Siobhan (01:08:13):
I know, since I've moved here, I knew there was a
dude in like, 2021 that wasroofing chicks and and I know
three different women, andAlameda police didn't really do
a lot. And like, yeah, like,sorry, they in. The women did
everything right. The womencalled and went to the police,
they went to the hospital, theywent through all of that to,
like, do it. And, like, both ofthem picked the same dude out,

(01:08:35):
and the third one did too, andthey never really did anything
about Jesus. We all, asbartenders were like, Hey, this
guy can't be around anymore.
Like, we 86 and got rid of him.
And I, like, had a conversationwith one of the cops about it.
Like, I was like, you guys don'tgive a shit. Like, no. He's
like, you know, we do. I'm like,you don't, because this
happened. I was like, and I cantell you three different women.
I'm like, I'm sure there aremore. Yeah,

Danielle (01:08:57):
they've always, I mean, like, and in particular,
you know, being able to report,or being trying to report, is
because a lot of the times,yeah, a lot of times, like you
said, you know, the cops areeither in on it, or they're
guilty of doing the same shit,or they just don't, or they just
don't give a fuck. I mean, theamount of untested, you know,
like rape kits and things likethat, but there are, it's really
because it's not a priority. Andif you do go to the cops, then

(01:09:19):
you're treated like you, likeyou did something. Why was your
show? Yeah, what were youwearing? Like? I remember there
was a time and I was this wasn'ta time that was roofi, but this
was a time that there weren't acouple of those, but this was a
time I was still living on, Iwas still living on Treasure
Island, so it was in the city,and I was walking to the then

(01:09:40):
Transbay Terminal. It's not it'snow the Salesforce transit
center, but in that area to takethe bus home, and there was a
guy who, if anybody was what shewas, what she was wearing, I was
wearing fucking flannel, andlike, you know, fully, you know,
covered, not out here with thetitties out, whatever. Also, it
doesn't matter. You can haveyour titties out. You can do
whatever. Doesn't give somebodythe right to assault. You just.
Be clear for anybody who'sfucking wondering, but like,

(01:10:04):
there was this guy who, and Idon't know if he's unhoused or
not, or whatever that was,that's irrelevant, but I had my
headphones in, and I was walkingdown the street, and I was
smoking a cigarette, and Iprobably asked me for a
cigarette, whatever I would justyou know, I'm on a mission. I'm
not right, not talking to you.
I'm a knife in my pocket, Iwould be prepared for walking
home, especially if you havecash on it, and even if you
don't, which is, you know, thesad thing that, like guys don't

(01:10:28):
think about it's like, if youdon't have a weapon, then you're
probably walking with yourfucking keys tucked between your
fingers, just in case IWolverine your ass. But like
this guy, then I can't quitehear what he's saying, but he's
following me for blocks at thispoint, and it's shouting shit at
me, and by the time I take my myheadphones out, I said something
along the lines of, like, he'sgonna rape me and got me like,

(01:10:49):
like, terrible, terrible fuckingthings, and I am the last person
to go to the cops. I'm not a fana tab fuck 12 all day. Yeah. But
I walked up to there was a squadcar that wasn't too far up the
road. And so I walked up to thecar, and actually, luckily, it
was a female police officer,which, you know, again, not

(01:11:10):
always a guarantee of anybodylistening. But he stopped when
he saw me talking to a cop. Itwasn't even necessarily like,
oh, like, he expected him tothink, but like, even just the
action of it was like, I'm justtalking just talking to you, so
at least this guy stopsfollowing me because you've been
following me for blocks, right?
You know? And so I think that'sit's just really something that,
I mean, men don't ever have tothink about it. Oh, yeah. Like,

(01:11:32):
why did I just see it wassomething about, like, there's
some report like, men could beextinct. Men, as a portion of
the human species couldpotentially be extinct, and, you
know, maybe hundreds of 1000s,if not millions, of years, if
we're still alive as a species,then, but, and then women are
just like, Yeah, great. And thenthere are these guys chiming in,

(01:11:52):
like, well, who's going toprotect you? And they're like,
protect us from, who, right,from, what is you?

Unknown (01:11:59):
Still choosing the bear, bro, don't use the bear
all day, all day, and

Danielle (01:12:04):
I'll lend it back to something less, you know. But,
yeah, no. And I these arethings. This is why, like, as a
as a bartender, and I'm sureyou, you've done the same thing
where you see, because we're,we're always watching people,
we're always listening. And soto see, like, if I see a guy
kind of making a chickuncomfortable, or even if, I

(01:12:24):
don't know if they came togetheror not, or whatever, I'm kind of
just reading the vibes. I willinsert myself into that
situation in a, you know, in away that's non confrontational,
but I'm going to check on you.
I'm going to keep an eye on thiswhole fucking thing. And I
guarantee you, I'm going to keepan eye on your fucking drink.
Yeah, because especially, youknow, people meet at bars. It's
online thing. That's, I've doneit, you know. And so it's like,
again, another reason to do thissort of shit in a public place,

(01:12:46):
yeah. But again, that doesn'talso guarantee safety. And so I
think as a, especially as a, asa woman in control of that
space, and anybody should bedoing this. Men, in particular,
bartenders should be doing this.
But, you know, I want people toknow that they're safe in a
place, right? And because it'sso prevalent with all of this

(01:13:07):
shit, yeah,

Siobhan (01:13:08):
I had a customer one day that he kept, like, trying
to talk to these women, and theyjust were like, No, thank you.
No. Thank you. Thank you. No,thank you. Go back over there,
yeah? And he just kept trying,right? And then this chick, and
I did not condone this at all,yeah, but she turned around and
threw a dart at him, and like,it went right by his head into
the wall behind him, and he cameout to me, and like, was like,
and I was like, and I laughed,

Unknown (01:13:31):
like, I don't condone and they did. He got mad,

Siobhan (01:13:34):
and I was like, I was like, Well, I mean, I'm not
saying you didn't deserve it,but she shouldn't have thrown
it, you know what? I mean? Like,yeah, like, and I was like,
listen, girl, you have to leave.
Like, you can't be throwing shitat you. Shit at people in my
bar. Yeah? And he's like, thatcould have killed me. And I was
like, I was like, Dude, it's abar Dart. It's not gonna fucking
kill you. Like, could it havehurt him? Yeah, in theory, I
guess, like, someone's gonnashoot your eye out kind of
thing. Like, no, it's metal tip.

(01:13:56):
But, like, but I also, like, hewas like, I didn't deserve that.
And I'm like, you were being afucking annoying. He's like, I
was just trying to be polite.
I'm like, the fifth time youwalk up trying to be polite is
not polite, yeah. Like, shesaid, No. She said she wasn't
interested. Means no. He's like,Well, I want I'm like, every
fucking word out of your mouthis but I, but I, but I. She
said, No, you kept coming. Shesaid, No, you kept coming. He

(01:14:17):
was like, Well, I was beingpolite. And like, that's not
polite anymore. It's fuckingharassment dude. And I was like,
and then I got mad, and he'swell, I just want I'm like, We
don't owe you nothing. Women oweyou nothing. Like, and I looked
at like the other three dudesthat were sitting like his
friends that were all kind ofyounger, and I was like, I hope
you all hear me too. Like, yeah,none of us owe you a fucking
thing. No woman has to speak toyou. No person has to speak to

(01:14:38):
you. Just because you want totalk to us does not mean we have
to talk to you exactly. Itdoesn't make us rude. It doesn't
make us anything like, I'm herewith my friends and I want to
hang out with my friends,fucking stop here for you. And
he's like, looking at me, and Iwas like, and I was like, yeah,
if you're out with your boys andsome chick keeps walking over to
you, you're gonna be upset, andyou're gonna say something
fucking mean, right? And like,she just Ruth. Art, because

(01:14:59):
nothing else she said wasworking. Yeah, I'm like, plus,
she's a lesbian.

Unknown (01:15:04):
She's anyways, she didn't want that Dick at all
anyway. And he's like, how doyou

Siobhan (01:15:08):
know I'm like, I know.
Like, trust me, yeah, you gavehim my number, and she's leaving

Danielle (01:15:16):
no a lot of these. I mean, it's societal, and it's,
it's not just the US, but inparticular, I think also because
our American culture is verywe've held on to, like the
puritanical values at the sametime, the quote, unquote family
values. But you could have, youknow, X amount of kids by
however many wives. But if awoman does it, right, well, she

(01:15:37):
is terrible, terrible slut. Andif you're white male, you can,
oh, best believe. I mean, like,and this is not to give, you
know, this is about the kind ofcomparison I can give. This is
how people think. Because, yes,if you're white, it's more
acceptable because, you know,fake Christian white, sorry if
you fake Christian white, or anyof the, any of these things. I
mean, like, both of my parentsare married four times, but, and
look at my brother. Thank you.

Unknown (01:16:01):
They made one, right?

Danielle (01:16:06):
My oldest brother, black is beautiful. They're
gorgeous. They you know, we allage, well, no circle, except for
those Nazi brothers, not likeone brother, Matt, he's dope in
America. Judge. His youngestdaughter, who's a gender, speaks
Spanish fluently. So they'retrying, they're trying best

(01:16:30):
friends. Anyways, we're gettingoff track. Oh, I know that's
fair, but no, I mean, there issomething to be said for all of
that. See. Now, I done lost mytrain of thought. We're talking
about something serious. Youcame in here and that's okay,
that's okay. It's okay. I'm gladyou got the

Siobhan (01:16:47):
probably pooping again. They told me it's always
on,

Unknown (01:16:57):
it's just there. It's always on, it's
just you. Usually have behindthe toilet too, but

Danielle (01:17:05):
I either way. Long story short, a lot of women have
been

Unknown (01:17:08):
roofing. Be aware. Be aware. And we and, you know, we
do

Danielle (01:17:12):
joke about these things, but it's also because
it's one of those, like, you'reallowed to keep from crying,
right? Yeah, so because

Unknown (01:17:21):
I'm sorry it's been such a rough day, and I hate
everything. Love you guys. Loveyou listeners,

Siobhan (01:17:26):
yes, also, if you can go get tested and share part of
your liver, your blood, yourkidneys, whatever you can,
she'll

Unknown (01:17:32):
help another human have, yes, one of my kidneys,
and she can have

Siobhan (01:17:36):
half your liver. Yeah, you can take a half a liver and
your liver will regenerate. Imean, maybe not. Yours

Danielle (01:17:44):
do that in a lab now, though, no, but guess what? Like

Siobhan (01:17:47):
mine's not bad. No, I know, but it was a better joke.

Unknown (01:17:54):
I'm talking to my mother in law, and I'm just
like, I'm just like, trying to,like, Tara may text to me right
now. That's a lot. Now, it'shard, because when I talked to
her, she was like, they're like,obviously she's like, doing
fine, but like, her motor skillsare like, I can tell that she
wants to, like, be more like shecan't, and it's hard, but to

(01:18:21):
hear her not be who she is.
Yeah,

Siobhan (01:18:25):
we love you. Katie, I made a joke about someone being
a method to a covering methodtoday.

Unknown (01:18:39):
This is my my therapy, because I can't talk to you
right now. Yeah, and

Siobhan (01:18:45):
bullshit with your friends. Like, that's kind of
what helps. Like, I love the thepodcast, because I love that we
can be talking about somethingserious and stuff, and then we
can talk about some justbullshit, because that's how we
talk. Yeah, you know what Imean? Like, we're out, yeah,
when we're out and we're like,you know, like, and sometimes
people like, like, I was talkingto someone about the traveling
and different ways to promotestuff, and he was like, Yeah,

(01:19:06):
but don't talk about bars. I'mlike, Dude, that's where I spend
half my time, yeah. And he'slike, people don't like bars.
I'm like, okay, then I don'tlike those people. Like,

Danielle (01:19:14):
yeah, you're like, This is a huge chunk of my life,
and this is what's built. Imean, it's where I found

Siobhan (01:19:17):
my community. It's where I found my people. Like,
you know what? I mean, I'm sucha wide range of good friends and
people that I can call or thatwould show up at at a moment's
notice, because I am connectedto bars. It's true. Like,
really, almost everyone that Italked to on any of these
podcasts are because I've workedin a bar and I've met them
there. Like,

Unknown (01:19:33):
also, the great part about what people know about the
house Wallace Island is, yeah,like, there's a, there's a, you
know, there's a boundary, also,there's a there's a closeness
that you have, like, maybeyou're not close to certain
people certain bars, becausethey keep it that way, but at
the same time, like the mainbars, the most popular bars on

(01:19:54):
this island, is because, asbartenders, we float around
between all these bars, andmaybe didn't work out. At one
place for whatever reason, andit's not, like, a detrimental
thing your career, and just inthe moment, it's not good for
you. But then you can, like,come back later and like, you
know, for me, I was an East Endbartender. You guys don't know

(01:20:15):
what that means, because you'renot from

Siobhan (01:20:18):
this. Didn't figure out it's on the east end.

Unknown (01:20:21):
But you know now, now that I'm a West End bar center
and a West End liver, like,resident, yeah? Like, I like
liver, liver, I don't know Ilive on the West End, yeah? But
anyway, it's like, I know, Iknew you, and then moving to the
West End, which is on a fartrek, but at the same time, like

(01:20:42):
there is a difference in theculture a little bit, yeah. And
that's, that's what it is like,if you think about the way, like
the the world works, is like,you can be from England, but if
you're from the south side andyou're from the north side,
you're, you're assholes to eachother. Even though you're both
English, you make it global.
It's like, well,

Danielle (01:21:01):
well, yeah, it's, it's like, a, it's a tribalism, yeah,

Siobhan (01:21:07):
I hate it. I just people are so like, and I don't
like, when people are like, Oh,you don't seem like you're from
Boston, and I'm like, oh, haveyou been there? And they're
like, No. I'm like, then howwould you know what we're like,
yeah, people like, becauseyou've seen a stereotype,

Danielle (01:21:17):
absolutely, absolutely. I mean, like, I had
a now granted. I had the bufferof going to this portion of
North Carolina with and visitingwith white people, so it was
probably a different experienceI would have had if I was
somebody else, but I had neverbeen. I've been to like, I said,
I've been to Philly. I'm I planon being more traveled, and I
definitely need stamps on thepassport, and again, coming up

(01:21:38):
on what's the next four years islike, I'm gonna see as much as
this motherfucker as I can, butI had, you know, definitely a
preconceived notion of theSouth, and it's such a vast
area, like not everybody is thesame. It's like looking at
California, and a lot, as a lotof people do, just most populous
state, and be like, Oh, they'rea fucking monolith, right? We're
all weed smoking hippies, thefuck we are. If you go to the

(01:22:00):
Central Valley baby myth is, butit's like your mike tyson
impression. Poor Mike Tyson,whatever he got paid. Um, that's
why he didn't swing his heart.
He's also 58 bro,

Unknown (01:22:18):
um, murder, and I could shoot that hard,

Danielle (01:22:22):
I plan to still be the Throw Down. But no, apparently
the women's about was moreexciting. Anyways, yes,

Unknown (01:22:31):
it was. But for your about, I'll buy the jello or
pudding. It's your choice. Let'sgo look. We're gonna have a lady
pool. Let's set

Siobhan (01:22:42):
it up. I mean, we could do a P Diddy style olive oil. I
mean,

Danielle (01:22:47):
Costco and buying a flat

Unknown (01:22:51):
like Sandy, actually over ordered olive oil, and when
it

Danielle (01:22:59):
was gonna feel here, I was like, What the fuck is this?

Unknown (01:23:03):
It's going back tomorrow. I'm like, what
did he party?
She was like, shut up.

Danielle (01:23:10):
Like, don't talk about what you go in cross

Unknown (01:23:14):
Valley prison, and Trump's our president.

Siobhan (01:23:18):
How many white parties did Trump go to of Diddy's or
none, because he's not, like, aparty.

Danielle (01:23:23):
How many do they plan on Epstein's Island?

Unknown (01:23:26):
And Elon? He's like, Fuck Kamala. She was their AI.
And he's like, but then, like,when anytime anybody posted him
at Diddy's party, he justblocked him. Yeah,

Danielle (01:23:37):
that's why he bought Twitter, so he could control the
I'm

Unknown (01:23:41):
pretty sure unite, all three of us can buy it right
now. It's like more shit weprobably can't do you have also,
I know, actually, it was likeKirkland that we went,

Danielle (01:23:55):
No, the I don't, I didn't notice this until
because, when I first read,because every time I open the
news, there's some otherludicrous fucking appointment
that he's decided, like the guywho's the Fox News host, who's
who's appointed to be the headof the Department of Defense,
which is fucking insane. Youknow how to code, right? I mean,

(01:24:17):
in my space days, yes, sure. Ican copy, I can copy a URL,
absolutely,

Unknown (01:24:25):
take a picture my butthole.
This is the new secretary. Yeah,you're gonna call him Elmo. I
like where this is going, Okay,I

Siobhan (01:24:40):
mean, actually, we could just get like, Oscar the
Grouch to be our defensesecretary. I feel like we gotta
be okay for that,

Unknown (01:24:46):
inside of a trash can on AI and let's just do that.
I'm here for like, better. Idid, I did that. Yeah,
political, but for fun. No,that's

Danielle (01:24:54):
literally, that's the world we're in right now, not to
let's make it fucking political.
That was part of what we'regonna talk about, how we. How
we're supposed to when we getthrough these fucking because
I'm still gonna say only nextfour years. But I mean, if you'd
asked me eight years ago if Ithought the motherfucker was
gonna win, I'd have been like,no. And then I remember working
on 2016 election night. I wasstill living in San Francisco. I

(01:25:16):
was managing this place thatdoesn't exist anymore, but I was
on Polk Street, and one barright, bar, no rye bars on the
tail. This was a place calledbuffalo theory, and it was next
door to the cinch, which is theonly gay bar left on Polk
Street. I love the cinch, and sowe it was me and a bunch of

(01:25:39):
other women working that night,two of whom were also like queer
women. And so nobody was therebecause election night, and it
was so Now granted, and I haveto say I didn't vote for
Hillary. I wrote Bernie in Icould not good conscience vote
for Hillary. She's a fucking warcriminal too. They're all trash,
every politician, yeah, for themost part, they're all pretty

(01:26:03):
shitty, no matter who you votefor. Well, you know, yeah, no,
any president. I mean, like, Iwas so stoked I got to vote for
Obama the first time I got tovote. And I was like, oh, and
now I'm like, Oh, you werebombing people every 30 fucking
minutes for eight years. And,like, it was cool because we
used drones. We didn't have allthese troops on the ground. But
like and I had friends wholambasted me for not voting for

(01:26:25):
a woman, you had a chance tovote for a woman, and you didn't
do it. I just said, I'm goodconscience I couldn't, and
that's really, in my opinion, Idon't think that it's a wasted
vote if you're voting for whatyou truly believe in, regardless
of whatever that remains to beseen about, you know, fascism,
but, but we have, it's two wingsof the same shitty bird, like

(01:26:46):
when you have, you know, Kamalasaying she's not going to change
her stance. She's going to be,you know, this administration
2.0 well, I told I there's a, Iwould say, more of an
acquaintance. I would say moreof an acquaintance. I wouldn't
necessarily refer to him as afriend. I'm not going to name
drop because it is somebody whogoes to the bars regularly, but
a white, liberal, straight man.

(01:27:09):
And I remember bringing up, youknow, and she was just facts
about Kamala record here as theADA of San Francisco and the Ag
of California. And I voted forher for the Senate because I,
you know, I was like, Oh, I wasstill kind of blind to a lot of
shit. And now that I've gottenmore into a record and how
terrible she fucking was, andhow many people she kept behind

(01:27:29):
bars for fucking weed and allsorts of just bad, bad stuff,
I'm not going to go into, like,individual things I could, but
I'm tired, and y'all couldfucking google it. So that being
said, I was like, Well, youknow, she's not gonna change
anything she could. I call itshe's she lost Michigan. I knew

(01:27:49):
she was gonna lose Michigan twofucking months ago. They told
her that. And, you know, how doyou square people being like,
Oh, well, Trump's gonna beworse, which, I mean, obviously
he's fucking trash. I'm not thisis not a just like talking about
Kamala and all this stuff, butthey're all she did was move to
the right, like having theChinese endorse you is not the

(01:28:10):
fucking flex you want for yourbase, also for, like,

Unknown (01:28:15):
old Democrats, when it really they're Republicans, no.
But what like when it wasliterally, like, tit for tat
and, like, they like, superright? In a weird way, it's
like, yeah, okay, so I'm goingto endorse my party no matter
what. So like, Kamala, come her,her, that was her flex. Because
she's an old school she's a copstill, too. I know that. But

(01:28:39):
like, for old school Democrats.
Is like, Oh, wow, these peoplewe hated for 40 years not
getting endorsed by the personwe hate. And, yeah, it doesn't
work that way. And the thingabout it is, there's too many
corporations who are justrubbing that

Danielle (01:28:54):
that, yeah, after Citizens United, it really like,
just fucked a lot of shit,because it means, you know,
corporations count as people,they can contribute as much as
they want, whereas if you as anindividual human being
contributes X amount, that couldbe a problem. But then

Siobhan (01:29:10):
how come Elon could?
Oh, because he did. I was acorporation,

Danielle (01:29:13):
but he was giving the world. That is also true. He, I
mean, and that's the thingStarlink, his, his internet
satellite thing is like what Ithink half of the satellites
that are orbiting right now, yougotta remember getting insane.
Everybody

Unknown (01:29:28):
who needs to remember that he's not this fucking
genius that he Nope. First ofall, he's got on it. He bought
it. He No, he didn't even buyit. He bullied his way into
buying it. Yeah, and his ownfather called him out on his
bullshit, and then his fatherplayed into it, because his
father realized that he's makingso much more money if he just

(01:29:49):
played in Elon shit. Elon Muskis autistic. That's fine. He's
high functioning autism, andhe's also. So a billionaire, and
so you have to weigh these twomental factors. In there is the,
what they call it, the thebillionaire psychosis, I think,

(01:30:10):
oh, where you're so rich thatyou just cannot think about
somebody because you're just asociopath. Yeah, you basically
turned into sociopath. And then,I can't remember what's called
and then there's, like theautism part, where, like, things
have to be your way, and likethe two conjoining things is not
great. And that's what Elon is,yeah, and to a T, that's what

(01:30:32):
Trump is. But he's, I can't evensay he's more,

Danielle (01:30:36):
he's more of a a showman, I think too. He also
even knows how to

Siobhan (01:30:41):
wait, because he's been performing for so many about

Unknown (01:30:45):
alcoholic history, but also like or

Danielle (01:30:47):
why we drink.

Unknown (01:30:51):
We talked about rape.
We're

Danielle (01:30:52):
covering all sorts of but they

Unknown (01:30:54):
they're also, they're rich enough, but they're not
smart enough, no, and so theythink they're doing the right
thing, because what they'redoing is they're they're saving
their own assets. Mm, hmm, yeah.
Elon Musk was a Democrat. DonaldTrump was a Democrat, yeah. And
when they realized that theycouldn't, quote, unquote, care
for the people and keep theirmoney, all of a sudden

(01:31:14):
Republican, because Republicans,they do have the lower IQ.
That's why Mitch McConnell isstill in office, because he's
gonna do right by like, runs

Danielle (01:31:25):
unopposed. A lot of these congressional seats and
Senate seats run unopposed too.
That's a big, big thing thatpeople don't think about. This
is why you're down ballot. Racesare so fucking important

Unknown (01:31:40):
when you have an IQ over 100 Yeah, and it's why it's
detrimental when your accusedunder 100

Danielle (01:31:49):
now, I will say, and this is also true, there are a
lot of fairly intelligentpeople. I mean, obviously, you
know, if you look at the atleast the collegiate pedigree,
not saying that. Like, Bush gotin, like, W got into fucking
Yale on his intelligencemarriage, daddy built a library,
and then they got but like,things along the lines of, there

(01:32:13):
are a lot of people who say thatthey are Republican. I mean,
Republicans and Democrats whorun the shit. George Carlin has
a great bit look it up aboutthey all go to the same country
clubs. These are all in the samecircles, because capitalism,
especially American capitalism,the way that it exists, only
exists based on the subjugationof other people, right? There's
no way for it to function theway that it does without that,

(01:32:35):
because that's how it wasdesigned in the first place. And
so, you know when earlier, whenI mentioned that we were never a
true democracy. I mean, blackpeople didn't get the right to
fully vote until the 60s, right?
So, and even then, now we'rebringing back. We have
redlining, we havegerrymandering, we have all of
these things we're bringingback, like, you can't give water
to somebody standing in line infucking Georgia, right? Like

(01:32:55):
that could get you thrown injail.

Unknown (01:33:01):
My white privilege?
Yeah, if you do that, then who?
Who's going to bring me my manwhat?

Siobhan (01:33:08):
If you're hydrated, how do I get out? Well,

Danielle (01:33:11):
it harkens back to the idea of race.

Unknown (01:33:14):
It's a Naomi. If you just, you would just, they don't
know what Naomi, if you, if youwould just do yourself favor and
just read what mandate is basedoff of you would understand that
it is aioli and that is Frenchand we are cultured.

Danielle (01:33:32):
You sound like what's his name, John Kennedy from from
Louisiana, who actually soundslike a completely different
person if you listen to hiscampaign speeches before, he
kept getting reelected, becausehis mother went to like, he went
to some ivy league, and then, Ithink he did a study, brought it
like Oxford. And then herealized, Oh, Danny Madonna,
base was, yeah, hey, nobodyrealized more of what his base

(01:33:53):
was. And so he switched hisaccent, I'm sorry, sound more
like what you're doing. Do

Unknown (01:33:58):
you not, do you not pour Coca Cola over peanuts.
Because, first off, see if youin the south, it's Pepsi girl.
Okay. First off, y'all call itpop. And second of all, if you
do not do that, I feel like youdon't know what a rocket is. To
be fair.

Danielle (01:34:13):
Again, not everybody in the south, not everyone.
Y'all, are trapped down there,and you just give you

Unknown (01:34:20):
the money to get out.
But first of all, it is Adam andEve, and it is not Adam and
Steve, but also Steve. First ofall, Steve had a friend. I think
his name was Greg, and he wasGreg. He wasn't really in the
picture, but he

Danielle (01:34:39):
he got the Ducking of poly

Unknown (01:34:42):
things. He got the job done. And, first of all, nobody
really, nobody really hatesGreg. He's just kind of there
and, and when Greg's there, Imean, my wife's happy, I'm not
mad. But to be fair, I'm notsure. Remember who invited him
to this party. But guess what?
The ribs are moist. Cornbread isbacon, and my rooster stopped

(01:35:08):
clucking about an hour ago. Sohere's the thing, your cock's
not working anymore. No, itstopped plucking. Wow. Anyhoo,
great. I appreciate all your Iappreciate all your hard work
and Bitsy. She does love you. Ohmy god, but at the same time,

(01:35:29):
still stopvoting for assholes. Why so

Danielle (01:35:33):
against your honor?
Just you know what? Becausethey've been taught. Also. Fun
fact, for you from the south,the banjo wouldn't be here, but
for West Africa,

Unknown (01:35:43):
you're welcome. I know that also, Bale of Fleck, go
yourself. What? Who? I didn'thear what you said. I

Siobhan (01:35:52):
didn't hear who you said. Bail of fleck. Veil of
Fleck, I don't know who that is.
No, I feel like I lost my inviteto the cookout.

Unknown (01:36:02):
No, this white man went to Africa to perfect the banjo
plane. Oh, and all thesoutherners like baila flex, the
fucking banjo player of theworld, I'm like, but he went to
Africa to learn how to play theBayla Fleck, B, E, L, Southern

Danielle (01:36:19):
cuisine wouldn't exist, but for you know enslaved
folks

Unknown (01:36:24):
that Bucha happened.
What? Because you all thoughtwe're off
on a tangent. Can we wrap thistangent

Siobhan (01:36:41):
this podcast might just need to be called tangent.

Danielle (01:36:45):
It might be no but, okay, so also, the reason that
people vote for their againsttheir interests is they're
stupid. They're they're keptuneducated on purpose. Oh, yes.
But also, does nobody, I guess

Unknown (01:36:58):
they're uneducated or stupid? No, I don't think
stupid. No, stupid. Reading

Danielle (01:37:04):
books again, bro, like this is a,

Unknown (01:37:06):
well, first of all, my my fucking, my oven in America
is pretty fucking, I don't knowif you know this, but my oven
is, is so cold. And when I, Italked to my governor, he said,
he said, Well, how many booksyou have about the MO peoples?
And I said, What do you mean theand he said, Well, he said, If

(01:37:30):
you burn them books by the wokespeople, the fire burns hotter
and your family's taking I thinkwe loved her to the bed. And I
said, What do you mean?
Come back to us. You thinkevery black person whose family

(01:37:57):
has been here for more than 200years that's family.
But they believe that if you donot burn the books, you will not
have a furnace. Oh, man, whatyou have to by the way, I'm
related to the Jacksons,like Michael Jackson, the
Jeffrey,

Danielle (01:38:19):
the Andrew Jackson, the Andrew Jackson, oh, I'm
sorry. I am too. I mean my lastname. I mean my last name is
McCormick, like the fuckingSpice Company. I mean, people
are like, Oh, he related. I waslike, Oh no, we're probably
picking the shit,

Unknown (01:38:36):
dude, you can edit it so fun fact. Show whatever our
last name is right now isactually not what our our
family's name was. So I my lastname Sibly, yeah, it's, it's
English for old surgeon. I donot know, I do not know how my
family became the last namesurgeon, but I do know that I

(01:38:58):
was owned by the Norris family.
Oh, and it's funny, because mydad was the captain to two black
sergeants. Last Name Morris,yeah, but here's the thing,
like, once you left theplantation, which my mom, my mom
told me, is you kind of took thename of whoever was not whipping
you, but cared for you. So,yeah, my last name is probably

(01:39:23):
Norris, by English standards,but my I go by Sibly, because
that's my last name. So you'reMcCormick. And yes, McCormick do
have the spices, but there wasprobably a branch because, well,
with ours,

Danielle (01:39:39):
according to, and this is, you know, word of mouth,
obviously, because all threemouths, all the mouth, if you
only trace it back so far. Butaccording to my dad, from what
he was told, was that, well,masa had a quote, unquote
favorite, and so they had sons.
She bore him sons because, youknow, right, they're. Like that
happy subject. And so after theyfound out the Emancipation

(01:40:03):
Proclamation was passed, a fewof them left the plantation, but
did keep the last name, and thenso did we, yeah, but it wasn't
like, Oh, it's just it wasbecause either that or you have
a lot of friends, right? I mean,like 9085 to 90% of the people
in this country with the lastname Washington, are black,
right? That's how many fuckingslaves George Washington owned,

(01:40:23):
everybody. You're welcome andand Thomas Jefferson, and he
didn't even Fuck

Unknown (01:40:29):
him. He just calmed down their leg because his penis
was so small, it

Siobhan (01:40:33):
wasn't his fault. He was just coming through every 30
seconds.

Unknown (01:40:38):
He just said, Martha, I like
he called all the slave womenmarker
because his pianist was soteeny. Yeah, never
broke. That's the worstI have so many kids never broke
the hymen because my pee pee sospecial.

(01:41:02):
Maybe the actual podcast thatwe've been trying to record for
three hours.

Danielle (01:41:12):
Oh, my God. Oh, it is about three hours, huh, yep, um,
my

Unknown (01:41:17):
cat, let's start. Hang on. Cat. Let's,
oh, man, I'll let you start. Igotta pee. No, you pee. I gotta
pee. Let's start the actualpodcast. Good God, of of
alcohol, and I'm not going to besad anymore.

Danielle (01:41:33):
Okay, okay, Imma make it brief. Yes, no, we'll make it
maybe a couple hours.

Unknown (01:41:42):
Was us who being like angry women in the Bay

Danielle (01:41:45):
Area, but this next podcast is going to be angry
women in the world.

Unknown (01:41:51):
Woke up this morning.
Our next podcast is going tobe about bartending, how to
handle part clients. I justlike, you know, I to be fair,
you can record this hunk here. Ithink my girlfriend's coming
home. I'm not sure she's verysick right now. I talked to my
mother in law. She was verypositive about this. But to be
fair, like I might not see mypartner for another month, and

(01:42:18):
it's eating up a side, ofcourse, but she told me. She
said, Hey babe, you know you'reyou're a good person. Come see
me when you can do your thing. Idon't like doing my thing when
she's not there. So let's justhave a fun podcast. It's not

(01:42:38):
necessarily about we can we canmake our our first podcast, a
whole nother podcast. Let's justtalk about bartending, and how
does the Barton? Because there'sa possibility. I

(01:43:06):
am I not see her in six months?

Siobhan (01:43:15):
We'll figure it out, and we'll all be here to help
and support however we can, andwe'll get tested and see what we
can give her

Unknown (01:43:24):
so far as positive. But

Siobhan (01:43:26):
that's scary

Unknown (01:43:28):
again. She told me to do this tonight. I wouldn't done
if she didn't tell me, but I

Siobhan (01:43:37):
had no idea she was so sick, Holly, I'm sorry.

Unknown (01:43:40):
A couple days.

Danielle (01:43:44):
Well, now that you do have a support system, no,

Unknown (01:43:50):
guys, this is just like a few, like weird, emotional
things. Of course, a long

Danielle (01:43:55):
day. It's understandable. She told me

Unknown (01:43:57):
to go have fun. Yeah, of course, I do apologize.

Siobhan (01:44:02):
No, don't apologize for having your feelings. We thank
you for feeling comfortableenough to share it with us and
to be letting us Yeah, andletting us be here for you.
Let's get you another Jamison,and you can both pee. And then
we'll she pees first. Let's dothis. It.
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