Four Bars

Four Bars

Presented by EDGES, Inc., The Four Bars Podcast is about building stronger, more connected communities through meaningful conversations. Hosted by Ken and Patti Leith, we explore how to foster collaboration, embrace differences, and address challenges together. We believe in creating "Four Bars" in our connections – deeper relationships that enhance personal lives, workplaces, and communities. Drawing on EDGES' innovative team collaboration tool, Inter Face Methods, and our nonprofit initiative, Unform Your Bias™, we share practical strategies to improve communication and reduce bias through storytelling.

Episodes

August 7, 2025 43 mins

What happens when you bring together art, architecture, and landscape design with a clear mission to "create places people love"? The answer lies in Northwest Arkansas's remarkable transformation from a collection of small towns to a vibrant urban landscape that draws visitors and new residents from across the country.

Jessica Hester, CEO and principal architect at Verdant Studio, along with Dayton Castleman...

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What happens when the same behaviors that would prompt immediate police intervention on the street are normalized behind office doors? Dr. Jason Walker, a dual-doctorate psychologist and internationally recognized expert on workplace violence, bullying, and harassment, takes us on a compelling journey exploring this dangerous double standard.

"Why is it if you are touched sexually in an unwanted way, if you were on th...

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Dr. Jason Walker, an internationally recognized expert with dual doctorates in psychology, pulls back the curtain on workplace bullying—a crisis affecting 75% of workers during their careers. Drawing from his own powerful personal experiences, Dr. Walker explains how workplace bullying isn't just "bad behavior" but a public health crisis costing our economy nearly a billion dollars annually.

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The way we process information fundamentally shapes how we communicate, collaborate, and connect with others. In this illuminating episode, we dive deep into the "Tree vs Forest" dimension of the Interface Methods connectivity tool – exploring the profound difference between internal processors (Trees) who prefer thinking before speaking, and external processors (Forests) who develop their thoughts through conversation.

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What makes a community truly thrive in times of rapid growth? Robert Burns, Director of Home Region Resources for the Walton Family Foundation, returns to the Four Bars Podcast to dive deep into the art of community building and regional development.

Have you ever relocated and felt that initial struggle to connect? Burns reveals that the first 30 days in a new place are critical to establishing lasting roots. "Put yo...

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The heartbeat of thriving communities isn't just in their development plans or economic metrics, it's in the genuine connections between people who call these places home. Robert Burns, Director of Home Region Programs at the Walton Family Foundation, brings this philosophy to life as he shares his journey from a rural North Carolina farm to leading transformative community initiatives in Northwest Arkansas and the Missis...

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From a mud-stuck vehicle in the Democratic Republic of Congo to the halls of George Mason University, Dr. Charles Davidson's journey in peace-building offers profound insights into human connection across seemingly insurmountable divides. As both Director of Research and Practice at the Center for Applied Peace Strategies and President of Innovations in Peacebuilding, Davidson brings decades of on-the-ground experience working...

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May 1, 2025 35 mins

The journey from tactical operator to strategic leader requires more than just a promotion - it demands a fundamental shift in thinking. Brandon Taylor, Senior Vice President of Transportation at JB Hunt Transport, returns to share the pivotal moments and hard-won wisdom from his leadership journey.

Brandon's career path took him from selling furniture in Miami to leading transportation strategy at one of America&apos...

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April 17, 2025 38 mins

Brandon Taylor, Senior Vice President of Transportation at JB Hunt Transport, takes us on a deeply personal journey through his formative years and the values that have shaped his life and leadership philosophy.

Growing up as a self-described "military brat," Brandon moved constantly throughout his childhood – from Michigan to Wyoming, England, Oklahoma, Germany, and California. This nomadic upbringing forged in ...

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April 3, 2025 48 mins

Have you ever experienced that moment of frustration when someone isn't approaching a task "the right way" – meaning your way? That universal feeling stands at the heart of disconnection in our relationships, and it's exactly what we tackle in this enlightening episode.

Ken and Patti take us behind the scenes of their growth advisory firm Edges and reveal the origin story of their behavioral assessment ...

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Taboos around money conversations can keep us financially stuck for decades. In this enlightening discussion with Iffy Ibekwe, Vice President and Senior Trust Officer at Arvest Wealth Management, we unpack why financial literacy matters and how community-based education can transform our relationship with money.

Iffy shares the origin story of her popular Money Moves Book Club and the successful financial literacy conferen...

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What does it take to uproot your family from a city you've called home for 21 years and move to a place you never imagined living? Iffy Ibekwe, Vice President and Senior Trust Officer at Arvest Wealth Management, shares the surprising journey that brought her from Nigeria to Dubai to Austin and finally to Northwest Arkansas.

Iffy's story is a testament to holding plans loosely. Originally set on becoming a neonat...

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January 23, 2025 34 mins

Discover how artificial intelligence is revolutionizing the workplace with our special guest, Vic Miles from Microsoft. Vic sheds light on how AI is automating routine tasks, paving the path for employees to engage in more meaningful work that fosters creativity and collaboration. Could this shift be the catalyst that draws employees back to the office for those invaluable face-to-face interactions? We explore this intriguing possi...

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Ever wondered how empathy might be the missing link between cutting-edge technology and real-world business needs? Join us as we chat with Vic Miles, the General Manager for Industry Strategies in the Americas at Microsoft, who brings a wealth of experience from his 15-year journey at the tech giant, including his impactful work with Walmart. Vic offers a fresh perspective on how understanding the end user's experience, even t...

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Licensed therapist Jessica Turner returns to the Four Bars podcast to share her expert insights on the complexities of family dynamics during the holidays. Discover the keys to mastering the often-challenging art of setting boundaries and maintaining communication with loved ones. We promise that by the end of this episode, you'll have a toolkit full of strategies for creating a supportive environment, whether with your biolog...

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Licensed therapist Jessica Turner joins us to illuminate the often-neglected necessity of self-care during the frenetic holiday season. With her expertise in trauma therapy, Jessica provides actionable insights on how prioritizing our well-being can strengthen personal health and relationships. Prepare to rethink your holiday approach as you learn the crucial importance of securing your own metaphorical oxygen mask before trying to...

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November 21, 2024 28 mins

Imagine raising nearly $100,000 for charity just by singing your favorite carols with a beer in hand. Casey and Ken Weatherford, the heart and soul behind Beer and Hymns, have turned this vision into reality, and they're here to share their incredible journey with us. From the success of their Beer and Carols event to their thoughtful charity selection process, Casey and Ken reveal how their passion for music and community imp...

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November 7, 2024 29 mins

How do beer and hymns come together to build a community? In this episode of the Four Bars podcast, we uncover the creative journey of Ken and Casey Weatherford, the innovative minds behind Beer and Hymns. Their story takes us from the cobblestone streets of Edinburgh, where the global tradition of singing hymns in social settings first inspired them, back to their church's Sunday school class, and eventually to a large, thriv...

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October 17, 2024 30 mins

Step inside the heart of Bentonville with us as we chat with Emily Medlock and Kelsey McIntyre from Blake Street House. Discover how this vibrant social club creates a thriving community hub through its unique blend of amenities, from gourmet dining options to fitness classes and lively social events. Kelsey shares her passion for connecting members with shared interests, revealing how a simple introduction can lead to lasting frie...

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Join us for a captivating conversation with Mayor Stephanie Orman of Bentonville, Arkansas, as she reveals the transformative power of strong community connections. From her beginnings in advertising and marketing to her role as a dedicated public servant, Mayor Orman's journey is a testament to the impact of citizen involvement and open communication. Discover how initiatives like the 3-1-1 system and public budget reviews ha...

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