May 9, 2024 • 44 mins
Ready to be shocked by the foods packing a nutritional punch? This week, Rob and I set the stage for a revelatory journey through the garden of nutrition, only to find our assumptions about spinach and liver being nutrient all-stars were a bit leafy around the edges. With the insightful Dr. Sarah Ballantyne slated to join us soon, we're upping our foodie game, chuckling at our initial misfires, and gearing up to share our epiphanies about the real champions of the nutrient world - watercress for the win!
But it's not just about what you should eat; we also peel back the layers on the food world's dark side, bursting the bubble on some shocking misconceptions. Bananas in the berry club? Mind-blowing, right? And while honey may sweeten your day, raw honey's no treat for the little ones. We'll leave you questioning everything you thought you knew about toxic foods, with a side of laughter as we wonder if plutonium would make a dietitian's list of no-nos.
Strap in as we next turn a critical eye to the snake oil of the nutrition industry - those dubious diet supplements promising the world. We’re not here to knock your Ashwagandha latte, but let's get real about those 'fat burners' and 'miracle' weight loss pills. Plus, our plan for upcoming content is as community-driven as it gets. We're taking your suggestions, stirring the pot with interactive streams, and welcoming a healthy dose of skepticism and humor for our next chat with the esteemed Dr. Ballantyne - no secrets here, promise!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey everybody, welcome to episode something of
in moderation, a more somber, amore, a more laid back episode.
Why?
Because it's just Rob and I andalso it's like 11pm for me it's
late.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, I had a very late start to this, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I had shit to do.
So we're just gonna kind ofchill and talk about some stuff.
And we kind of figured out whatwe were doing minutes before
starting this and you know whatwe're going to do Because we're
so prepared.
We're so ready.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We are amazing at preparing.
Listen.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We spent 10 seconds before we hit, start preparing.
We are going to do lists, notas.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Rob has heard lisps no no, not lisps, there's not an
episode on lisps.
Sorry people who lisp.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Why in lisp would they put an S, Like of all the
letters, to put in the word thatdescribes what people you know
can't pronounce S's.
Would you put an S?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Lisp, it seems mean yeah, like I guess the people
who made these words were justassholes.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh, is it like a test ?
So you're like I lisp andyou're like no, you don't you
liar.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I just heard you say an S.
I think you just discovered theanswer to the age old question.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
That's what it is.
Anyway, that's what you've allbeen wondering.
So, good night, we're going todo an episode on lists, ok.
So next week we have dr sarahballantyne coming on, okay, and
she has what she calls neutrofor, all right, and it is like a a,
a collection of the most likenutrient dense foods and she,
like, ranks them out.
So you know what's morenutrient dense, what's less
(01:36):
nutrient dense.
She'll go over all this stuffnext week.
That's not what's important.
What's important is we want tosound smart.
We know we're not smart, but wewant to sound smart.
So we know we're not smart, butwe want to sound smart.
So we are going to do firstlist.
We're going to do is get thetop 10 most nutrient-dense foods
in the world, and Rob hasn'tseen it.
I have it pulled up.
I'm going to have him try andguess what the top 10 most
(01:58):
nutrient-dense foods are, andthen we know for next week,
we'll throw some stuff out there.
We'll next week, we'll throwsome stuff out there.
We'll sound smart.
And she'd say her doc sarah'snot gonna listen to this episode
, she doesn't know.
Yeah, so we'll be all set.
No one tell her.
No one.
I'll be so mad.
I'll be so mad.
Okay, I have the top 10 mostnutrient-dense foods in the
(02:18):
world pulled up and I will behonest.
If you can guess more, oh boy,golly, two of these I will be
surprised.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Okay.
Well, if Paul Saladino hastaught me anything, one of them
has to be testicles.
Show me testicles.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That's number one.
Testicles are the mostnutrient-dense food in the world
.
Testicles are the mostnutrient-dense food in the world
.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
No testicles, unfortunately not on the list of
most nutrient-dense foods.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Play along at home.
What do you think is the mostnutrient-dense?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
food.
Somebody message me the answer,somebody just travel behind
Liam Look at his screen.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Stop stalling, you just don't want to sound stupid.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I don't want to sound stupid.
Let's try spinach.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Spinach is not on here, but there is something
that is.
I don't want to say it's likespinach, but no, it is not see,
I thought kale, okay, here's.
I'm gonna be honest.
I thought kale and liver wouldboth be on here liver's not on
there liver is not on hereeither.
Interesting yeah, it'sinteresting um no wonder it's
(03:40):
hard to guess okay, listen, tobe fair to rob.
Fair to Rob, to be fair to Rob.
There's like half the list isjust a variation on one food.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Is it bananas?
It better not be bananas.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Oh, I would be so healthy.
I'd be the healthiest ever Ieat so many bananas.
No, it is not bananas, but itis Okay.
I'll give you a hint.
It kind of looks close.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It looks a lot closer to spinach than it does.
Bananas Looks a lot closer tospinach than it does?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
bananas Looks pretty good.
You know, if you looked at thetwo, you know you could tell the
difference.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
But you know, there's some similarities.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Green leafy.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Green leafy, I'm thinking like lettuce, could it
could be lettuce.
It's not lettuce.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
No.
Okay, lettuce, it's not lettuceno, um, green leafy, take one
more guess and then I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I'm gonna tell you what it is, because it's, it's,
it's, yeah, it's interesting I'mnot gonna facepalm, I'm gonna
facepalm, hands ready, let'sokay, let's hear it, it is
watercress have you ever heard,have you ever seen watercress?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
yeah, there's, sorry, hold on one, two, three, four,
five variations on watercress.
Okay, so there's mustard cressgarden, pepper cress garden,
cress, raw cress garden, cooked,boiled, drained with salt cress
garden, cooked, boiled, drainedwithout salt.
(05:01):
It's without salt.
What?
Kind of list did you look up?
This is the top Listen showingtop 10.
That's what it says at the topof the page, but it's not number
one.
It is not number one.
Number one, boy, is something Iwould never want to eat.
I'll tell you that right nowI've been at a Laffy Taffy.
(05:25):
It's also not that, thankgoodness, I would still not.
I would still not eat it, evenif it was the most
nutrient-dense food.
Um, it is mollusks, clams,really mixed species canned with
liquid, with liquid.
Okay, not without liquid.
You gotta have the molluskliquid in there in order for it
to be the most nutrient-densefood.
(05:45):
Interesting, yeah, so we'regonna have to ask her.
But then two and three are poor, or, wait, two is poor man's
pepper.
Have you ever heard of poorman's pepper?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
No, I've heard of poor man's lobster.
Poor man's lobster.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It is also not that.
And then pepperwort and peppergrass Raw Pepperwort.
I don't know what pepperwort iseither.
I don't either Listen, listen,okay.
So all that was interesting,but the number 10 is the one I
love the most and this is oneI've had many times.
How do I give you a hint onthis one?
(06:23):
It's something maybe like agamer might drink.
You know, if you're like gaming,you want maybe I'll do no, it's
the only thing gamers drink youneed a little energy and more
caffeine than a mountain dew.
More caffeine than a mountaindew, might you might think the
caffeinated mountain dews.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You might even call it an energy drink of sorts.
Are you kidding me that anenergy drink is number 10?
I'm not kidding you, I am 100%serious.
Oh man, which energy drink,though?
Is it Red Bull?
It is not Red Bull.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
It is Rockstar.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Really Rockstar.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Rockstar beverage sugar-free.
Now the reason is it says rightnext to it there's like a
little asterisk it saysbeverages energy drink.
Rockstar sugar-free isartificially high due to
non-nutritive sweeteners andfortification.
So basically they add a bunchof vitamins and minerals, you
know, or whatever, and thenthere's no sugar in it.
So it's got like what 20calories and like a whole
(07:21):
Rockstar sugar-free calories andlike a whole rockstar
sugar-free.
So for everyone out there, ifyou are drinking rockstar
sugar-free, you are drinking atop 10 most nutrient-dense food
out there.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
actually actually it's kind of funny, um, when
people go to the hospital foroverdosing on energy drinks,
it's actually not because thecaffeine right, because it can't
.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Is it niacin, like which one is?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
yeah, it's nice and poisoning is it nice.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And I thought, yeah, I remember it was one of those.
Just that goes to show you toomuch of anything.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Uh, yeah, it's problematic, but yeah, that's
the top 10 list, which is uh,yeah I feel like, I feel like, I
like, I feel like I just needto go get dr sarah's book and
fact check against these.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
That's I'm listening.
You can ask her next week.
We go have her on the podcast,um, but liver, it seems like,
has a neutrofor score of likesix thousand.
Now, having said that, these,all these other ones were ten
thousand and above, really.
So you know, drink your rockstars, interesting.
I wonder about spinach also,like spinach and kale are the
(08:30):
ones that always seem to be likeup there with people really
anything that's like reallyspinach low in calories.
Mustard spinach, yeah, aroundsix thousand five to six
thousand.
So, yeah, like anything that'slike low in count.
Like you know, leafy greens arealways gonna be up there and
kale, oh, kale's lower, kale'sonly 4 000.
I'm gonna have to ask dr sarahabout this, anyway, people.
(08:53):
So yeah, the yeah, it'ssomething like lower calories.
Like your leafy greens, it'llgenerally be more nutrient dense
.
I know berries is always likeup there.
I don't know which kind ofberries, but get you, mix your
berries with your mollusk in acan oh, shoot uh berries that
(09:15):
aren't actually berries like uhstrawberries.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yes, strawberries is strawberries, dear listener did
you know that a strawberry isnot a berry, and bananas are.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I hate, I hate this world.
Cucumbers are as well, anyway.
So yeah, that's, we'll ask,we'll talk more, dr Sarah.
So, rob, over there, you gotchat GPT.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I'm a little bit more technological advanced
than Liam.
I'm going with chat GPT.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Whoa shots fired at Dr Sarah.
I'm pretty sure she's put a lotof work into NutriVore and
you're going to hear about thatnext week.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Okay, yeah, I'm pretty sure she's a little bit
more, a little bit better thanchat GPT Than.
Ai, I would say so the AI thatcan't do math?
Yeah, okay, well, you askedwhat do you?
What do you ask?
Okay, okay, so I brought upchat gpt's list of the top 10
(10:11):
most toxic foods.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Top 10 I, but I feel like I have an advantage on this
with all the videos I gettagged in right like I gotta get
I know you gotta get somethinghere okay, okay, ready for this.
I feel like I feel confidentabout one.
I'm gonna start right off.
I remember a video with dr markhyman.
Oh, that guy and they weretalking about the worst food for
you and I was gonna do a videowith it, but I could never
(10:35):
really figure out an angle,exactly what to do.
It's either the healthiest food, it's the most toxic,
nutrient-dense food there is.
I'm going to say Skittles,skittles.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Well, I hate to tell you this, but Skittles is not on
the list.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
No, you're fucking lying to me.
There's no way Skittles are onthat list.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Skittles aren't on the list.
With all the dyes and thetitanium dioxide and the
ingredients you know that arebanned in other countries, it's
gotta be the worst thing for youwhat can I tell you I'm maybe
chat gpt just like skittles.
I do like skittles I reallytaste the rainbow, motherfucker.
Um, okay, okay, okay, fine.
(11:20):
So going off of like what did Ilike?
The, the snack?
I feel like the snack cakes.
I feel like I'm going down thegrocery aisle.
The snack cakes have to bethere, the little Debbie's, that
sort of thing.
And what's the biggest?
You know little Debbie there,everyone knows Twinkies, it's
gotta be Twinkies.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Twinkie is also not on the list.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
How, how many?
How long is this list?
It was at three, Is there likethree things?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
you know what it's?
It's 10 things, and not asingle one is junk food oh, so
are we going like raw milk, rawmilk I.
I'm actually surprised that'snot on there okay, so it's like
but there's something elsethat's raw, that's on here oh
boy, how are we censoring thepodcast?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Like what, we're not going to get any sponsors.
If I answer the question, whatI think was going on Ross like,
so it's maybe like, is it likesome kind of leafy green,
because I always feel likethere's outbreaks with that
spinach or lettuce or likesomething like that Cabbage?
(12:27):
There's a couple that are leafy,but they're not the raw one
that I was referring to.
There's a couple leafy ones,though, but what's?
Iceberg lettuce is always likegetting, like you know, salmon,
like there's outbreaks, likesalmonella or whatever you know,
some kind of tainted.
There's a recall there's nolike iceberg lettuce.
There's no, there's no lettuceon the list.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Nope, no lettuce on the list, no lettuce, no spinach
no, kale no no.
I know it's surprising how manytimes we've been told those
things are so toxic to us andthey're apparently not on the
list.
Is it plutonium?
Is plutonium on the list?
Yes, plutonium is on the list.
That was number three.
Was that number three?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
No, I was going to say wait, chat GPT.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I've never put anything past chat GPT.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I don't know.
That would be great.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
But I will tell you what is number three.
What is number three Raw honey.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Raw honey for babies, because under like a year
they're not supposed to yeah,that's exactly what it says.
May contain botulinum sporeswhich can be harmful to infants
under one year old says maycontain botulinum spores, which
can be harmful to infants underone year old.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
So on this list, is it thingslike dent, dented cans, like
food that's in like a dented can?
Is there anything like that?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
no okay also dented can.
Stuff is perfectly good on thediscount shelf right.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, I know, because before now there's a lining in
it and, like I don't know, I'mnot a food.
We have to ask food sciencebabe.
We need food science babe onthis podcast, we do.
I'm going to message her Boy.
So yeah, the honey makes sense.
What else causes like outbreaks?
Raw meat it's got to be somekind of raw meat.
Raw meat.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Raw chicken.
Technically, there is a rawmeat on here, raw testicles.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Raw liver that should be on there.
Rocky Mountain oysters FuguFugu Was that the fish, puffer,
fish, puffer.
Yeah, that's the fish that youhave to like, cut it perfectly,
yep, and then you, yeah, thatone would be totally poisonous.
I don't think I would ever eatthat because from what I hear,
it doesn't taste like good, itdoesn't taste like much.
(14:28):
It's more about just theexperience.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It's just like the bravery of hey, I ate puffer
fish.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Hmm, yeah, I'm still not eating it, okay, and so I
mean just like spoiled food, oh,moldy food, rotten food, the
thing, that food that has moldon it.
I'm just going to rephrase it.
I mean a bunch of differentways.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
There's a couple on here that are like when unripe
they're deadly Like ackee.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Oh yeah, I have seen ackee.
I had ackee in Jamaica.
It looks looks kind of likeeggs.
It looks like eggs.
It's very weird.
It doesn't really taste muchlike eggs, tastes more like a
fruit and your mind doesn't likeit because you want it to taste
like eggs I never looked it up.
Look up, aki.
It's strange.
Um, is there any?
So there's no more like raw.
(15:23):
What else is like?
Give me another one, give meanother one.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Give you another one.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Well, at number four we've got Nutmeg, Nutmeg in
large quantities can causehallucinations, nausea and
convulsions I've heard that youcan get high off nutmeg.
I've not been.
I've been pretty dumb.
I haven't been dumb enough toattempt the high of nutmeg,
(15:50):
nutmeg.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Okay, man poor christmas um, no wonder we're
all jolly around christmas time.
It's all.
We're just jolly aroundChristmas time, we're just all
about nutmeg.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You put like an eighth of a teaspoon of nutmeg
in something you fucking know,like you put an eighth of a
teaspoon in the cake and you'relike, oh, this has nutmeg.
That shit is crazy, strong,crazy.
Is there any more spices?
Is there any more spices on thelist?
Like some kind of like weird,like I don't know?
No, no more spices.
No more spices on the list,like some kind of weird.
(16:21):
No, no more spices, no morespices.
But what's this leafy greenthing you're talking about?
I've gone through all thefucking leafy greens, what do
you?
Beet greens, beet greens,rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Ding ding, ding, ding , ding ding I remembered rhubarb
.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I remembered rhubarb.
There you go.
Is it poisonous if you don'tcook it?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Oh, the leaves are poisonous, you can only eat the
stems yeah something like thatthe leaves contain high
quantities of oxalic acid.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, Raw oysters, raw oysters.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Surprisingly no.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Bullshit.
Listen, we fucking had Morticiaon here and she told us.
She told us.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, I would not ever want to eat a raw oyster.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
How is raw oysters not on there?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well, that should be number two, because I do agree,
fugu, with number one, like youeat the raw piece of.
Fugu, you're just done.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
You're done.
That's really that's not great.
You're just done.
You're done.
That's really that's not great.
I I prefer these.
I'm gonna be honest, I preferthese to like the normal things
we get tagged in where it's just, like you know, like snacks,
some kind of like star crunch,like I love star crunch, though
cheese it's the the fake toxic.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
These are actual toxic things.
Those are fake toxic things Iwant to.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I want to get.
I'm going to look up like ablog.
I want to look up like a bloglike what's the, what's the
worst foods for you and, justlike you know, midwest crunchy
mom dot org or some shit likethat stupid list.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Okay I'm gonna give you a hint on one more I need we
need to get through this bobbypromotes this seed oils?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
no, um, he promotes.
What is the avocado like?
Is it a fruit?
It's a vegetable?
Oh, it's alcohol, alcohol,alcohol.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I I forget, like the food, youknow, I'm thinking like foods
and I forget about like thedrinks and shit like that.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, that makes sense, it's very important that
he promote the thing that'sactually toxic right?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
yeah, it's, but but his alcohol doesn't have any
sugar in it.
They're less than one gram perbottle, so it's fine, oh okay,
so there's more toxic it's lessof the less of the fake, toxic
thing more of the real toxic ohshit, that's great, okay, okay,
just give me the other one.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I want to know what else is okay, we got cassava
elderberries boy cassava becausewe, we gmo would like cassava
right or whatever we like.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
We altered it so that it doesn't contain as much like
cyanide as before or some shitlike.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So is that?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
like that must be like before, or something like
that, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So I was thinking about that natural cassava um
elderberries, for the samereason as cassava, actually raw
or unripe, elderberries alsocontain cyanide.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Okay, is apple seeds on there or something?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
No, oh, but green potatoes are.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Oh, yeah, okay, Okay, I was thinking potato salt,
yeah, yeah, yeah, once they turngreen or they start like
sprouting like crazy.
Yeah, you don't want to eatthat.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
And the last one is random mushrooms in a forest.
Is that actually what saysmushrooms?
But it says some wild mushroomsare toxic.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Oh, so don't, eat random mushrooms in a forest.
That's because that's not likea.
Okay, I guess that's not likewe don't like, oh death cat
mushrooms.
Like that's not a food.
Mushrooms are a food, butwhatever.
Whatever, I'm getting nitpicky,I'm getting nitpicky, I'm
getting nitpicky.
I'm going to look up worstfoods for your health and then
(20:17):
you are going to have to guessWorst foods for your health.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Here's everyday health top 10 worst foods you
should give up.
Wait, worst foods I should giveup.
The worst foods you shouldworst foods.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
You should give up.
This is the dumbest list ever.
Okay, yo, fuck this list.
I'm actually getting madreading through this.
Really, yeah, it's bullshit.
Fuck this list.
I'm actually getting madreading through this.
Really, yeah, it's bullshit.
All right, what do you?
You know?
(20:45):
Pick your your typical things.
Is bananas on there?
Bananas is on there.
Bananas isn't on there.
Pick the real things thatpeople think are toxic, not your
messed up brain the real thingspeople think are toxic Kale
Spinach.
No, not the fucking carnivoreMDs, the regular people, okay
regular people yes, regularpeople Think about diet culture.
(21:07):
Think about diet culture.
When people like youimmediately you have to give
this up in order to lose weight.
Lucky charms, not lucky charms.
No, there's no cereal.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Oh, okay, that's surprising.
Okay, you need to give this upto sweet seed oils no seed oils.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I wanted seed oils to be on here.
It's not on here okay there'sdefinitely a famous snack that
you just kind of like keep goingback to.
You know like you can just eata whole, a whole bag of lays
chips.
Yes, I'll give that one to you.
Chips you have to give up chips.
Chips is like number two on thelist of worst foods sorry,
number one.
Number one is chips.
(21:46):
Get the fuck out of here.
Chips are I like here's.
Here's the problem with chips.
People like three ounces ofpotatoes like 65 calories.
Three ounces of potato chips islike 400 or 500, between 400
and 500.
That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
The best thing you can do is either portion them
out or buy the smaller bags.
Actually, I was shopping todayand I was looking at Pringles
and I almost got the ones thathave the little tiny containers
that are 100 calories percontainer, like you would give
out on Halloween or something.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Okay, yeah, you know what I'm already mad about this
list.
We're just going to go throughit and talk about what other
things you can do.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Because number two, number two number two.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Number two Rob, rob are you?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
listening, I'm listening Number two, number two
, number two is non-dairytopping such as Kuhip Kuhip.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
And why?
Because it has hydrogenatedvegetable oil.
So vegetable oil is on the list.
You want to tell people thedifference between fucking
hydrogen and partiallyhydrogenated?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, so when we're, we hydrogenate the oil to, you
know, make it more stable andstuff partially hydrogenated oil
.
Of course, as the name implies,it was only partially done and
it contains trans fats and thathas been banned.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Fully hydrogenated oil is fully hydrogenated, does
not contain trans fats yeahthere's nothing wrong with it
you're really not going to seepartially hydrogenated really
anywhere anymore.
It's because the amount oftrans fat like there is trans
fats in food, just like inbutter, like butter has trans
fat, just a small amountnaturally occurring exactly.
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So small amounts is fine, sothis list is already fucking
like stupid bullshit.
Number three donuts.
Um, I love donuts.
Yeah, sure, okay, fried, yeah,yeah, yeah.
But like you know, my thing islike, if I'm gonna have a donut,
I want to get a really gooddonut.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I want to get a donut froma place that makes a really
good donut and just enjoy it.
You get like those, likegrocery store donuts and it's
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always a.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
It's a bit of a disappointment for me and then
you eat the entire, like six ora dozen of them.
Yeah, I agree with you, go getit.
Go get a nice donut where youcan have one and you can just
savor the moment there's thisplace here in columbus that has
like all these differenttoppings and stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's like oreo donut or wild berry donut or like you
know all sorts of crazy shit.
They're so good.
They make them fresh there.
They're still like hot as youget them out.
That's the way to have a donut.
You have it once in a while,not a big deal.
Fucking.
Donuts are so good, okay, okay,okay, okay, okay Okay.
Number four, number four.
Number four Fettuccine Alfredo.
(24:32):
Seriously, seriously.
What's wrong with fettuccinealfredo?
Let's strips of pasta drenchedwith butter, cream and parmesan.
What's not to love?
How about it's fat and calories.
A three ounce serving about thesize of your fist has 543
calories and 33 grams of fat, 19of which are saturated.
(24:55):
Okay, first off, first off,yeah, saturated fat not the
greatest for your health, in in,in large amounts.
You generally want to keep itto around, like you know, 10 ish
percent of your calories.
But like, also, cheese like hasbeen shown to be, you know um
beneficial for her health.
Obviously, everything inmoderation right.
But like you get you, you getum.
(25:15):
You get some chicken, you getsomething like chicken breast
you could breast.
You could add some broccoli toit if you wanted to lower the
calories, to make yourself feela little more satiated.
You get some fiber, you getbarilla protein pasta, or, if
you're gluten-free, you could dolike what's that?
That bonza?
Bonza is really the onlychickpea pasta I could tend to
like enough at least to eat it.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, it sounds like this list decided to pick the
one recipe that had the mostbutter added, or something.
Yeah, somebody Jesus, and thenyeah with the saturated fat
obviously if you're eating thatevery single day, then that's
going to be bad for you.
Just don't make it every singleday.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Who's eating fettuccine?
That's dumb, I'm okay.
All right, number five Okay,sausage.
Now, five Okay Sausage.
Now I will say processed meats,um, you know, tend to be linked
with a bowel cancer, generallysomething to limit.
So, yeah, like, sure you know,but like you, you can, um it's
still, you can still haveprocessed meats within the
context of an overall healthydiet.
I made my wife um some mealpreps with like sausage and it
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was like a stuffed pepper, butnot actually in the stuffed
pepper.
So you like chop up the peppersand you add um like rice and
tomatoes and other things and,like you know, you make it more
of a balanced meal, right andthat's the important thing with
the processed meats is to alsoeat fiber, because fiber reduces
your risk of colorectal cancer.
Just get your fiber in seriously, uh, for For women about 25
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grams a day, men around 38.
So you do that.
You're doing awesome.
The average American gets 10 to15.
Don't be your worst, which is Iguess that Number six is fried
chicken.
Fried chicken is on the list oftop 10 most delicious foods.
Fried chicken's got to be there.
It's so good.
Yeah, whoever wrote.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
this list is the top 10 buzz kills of the year.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Seriously, no fucking fried chicken Again.
Don't have it all the time, butyou go to a place that does it
really right and it's delicious.
It's so protein and whatnot.
I love fried chicken.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I make amazing chicken.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
It's good, okay, uh.
Number seven is imitationcheese in a can.
That's if I've always found alittle weird.
I've never like.
I would like to write my namewith it, but I don't really like
to eat it.
It doesn't taste that great.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I think that's more of an american thing it is here
we have a plenty of snow towrite our name in yeah, gee,
it's just I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
But yeah, I mean, if you like it, I guess, just so
it's weird, it's just a.
It's just a weird thing.
It's like purple ketchup.
Why are we doing that?
And then number eight is frenchfries.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Seriously, this is a bus killkill.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Holy shit.
And then again it just talksabout the calories, yada, yada,
yada, blah, blah, blah, blahblah.
But, like you know, you havesome good fries out or you could
make fries at home.
I love doing like an air fryer,you can make them in the oven.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Air fryers are amazing for that.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Salt pepper.
I like, I usually like theseasoning mixes, but like chili
powder, well, maybe even alittle bit of cumin or cumin.
People always get mad at mewhen I say cumin, cumin, god
Jesus, people get mad ateverything.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I make my own little spice mix for making fries Some
cumin, some salts, some bakingsoda or baking powder, baking
powder, baking soda.
One or the other, which is thesecret for when using an air
fryer.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
It'll help crisp it up more.
Wow.
And then it's the healthiersubstitute for French fries.
Sauteed tempeh Listen people, Ilike tempeh.
Tempeh is fermented soybeans.
I enjoy it.
It's kind of like somewhat of ameat substitute.
I do it in chilies and stuff.
It's not French fries.
What the fuck are you doing?
What shit are?
Speaker 2 (29:02):
you on, like if you're going to suggest an
alternative for something itneeds to actually fulfill the
desire for that.
I mean like If I want Frenchfries, I don't want to go get
tempeh.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And then like, yeah, these like fry, for the fried
chicken it was just grilledchicken.
Like, yeah, okay, I likegrilled chicken, but like it's
fresh, oh, oh, all right, I onlygotta finish up a couple more
of these and then I'm donefucking.
Oh, white bread.
Who can't have white bread?
Literally the first, literallyliterally the first sentence
after is you may, you may aswell have a candy bar.
How about you get fucked?
(29:39):
How about you get fucked?
Instead, it's okay, it's bread.
It's 70 calories or so for athing of white bread.
You throw on you know somepeanut butter.
You have a peanut butter andjelly, a sandwich, you know you
put some, you know tomatoes,onions, whatever, spinach,
something like.
Why do we have to hate bread somuch?
I don't know.
(30:01):
And yeah, it's like, oh, it'slike, if you can get a whole
grain, you know whole grainbread, like a whole, you know
made from whole wheat, that'sgreat.
But like, if you like whitebread and what you enjoy, then
just you know, balance it out.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Jesus, and like when you're making something like
French toast white bread canabsorb so much more of that egg
mixture.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
OK, and then the last one.
We just go.
The last one.
Um fried wontons man justfucking more buzzkill just
because of fry it's just, yeah,I mean, uh, cream cheese fried,
too much fat, too greasy.
It too greasy a treat foranyone trying to stay fit?
Hey, get fucked, fuck face.
I can eat fried wontons and beplenty fit, like you, just don't
.
What am I eating them?
It's too greasy a treat foranyone trying to stay fit?
Hey, get fucked, fuckface.
(30:46):
I can eat fried wontons and beplenty fit Like you, just don't
Am I eating them every day?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Obviously you're eating them every day.
Liam's got a live stream going.
He's just sitting there eatingwontons all day long.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Hey, everyday health, you're not in moderation
approved.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Get fucked.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
All right, well, I'm done with that.
That's fucking stupid.
That's stupid okay, liam, I'vegot uh chat gpt here giving me
the top 10 fake diet supplementsoh, like the work, like the
worst diet supplements, thingsyou shouldn't be taking, or like
waste the money waste of money.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Some products may contain false claims or contain
potentially harmful ingredients.
Here's 10 types of fake ordubious diet supplements to
watch out for I, I feel, I okay,I feel a little confident going
into this.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I feel like, is it?
I feel like they're probablygonna pick, like, some of the
most popular ones.
There's definitely some popularones, right, so I'm going to
say a couple of them that maybeI don't think deserve to be in
the top, but are popular.
So is Ashwagandha on the list?
It is not.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Is turmeric on the list?
It is not Okay.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
So those ones, I don't know if they deserve to be
on the list, it is not okay.
So those ones, like I've seen,like you know, I don't know if
they deserve to be on the list,but like those are popular.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
So I was thinking, oh okay, fat burners, fat burners
number two boom number two, Ifeel yes, number two let's go
stop buying fat burners fatburners are pretty much at this.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
So okay to okay to be fair, fat burners back in the
day, like decades ago, theyworked.
They basically like uncoupledduring the electron transport
chain so that it would justgenerate a lot of heat.
So you would just get super hot, you would just give off,
because calories are a unit ofmeasurement, specifically a
measurement of heat.
(32:43):
So you just give off all thisheat and there's people that
have died from taking too manybecause, like you know, you turn
yourself into like a minifurnace.
Um, so yeah they, they worked,but like dangerous as fuck.
So now there's a bunch ofregulations because the
government doesn't let us turnourselves into ovens.
Oh, the government, big fdafucking with us why doesn't fda
(33:05):
ever do anything about these?
if I want to be an oven, that'smy choice.
Um, okay, so yeah, now they'repretty much just caffeine, which
you know, just drink coffee orsome shit like some.
Or sugar-free hey, you'resugar-free monster, or what was
it?
Rockstar?
Rockstar, yeah, you can getyour top 10 most nutrient-dense
(33:28):
food.
Um, okay, what else is, uh,bcaas?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
they are not on there .
They should be on there.
They should be on there.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I feel like on there I feel like so anybody listen.
Bcaa is like you know.
You can just eat Like you,don't need the branch chain
amino acids Like it's just it'strue that the branch chain amino
acids are important for musclebuilding?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yes, but they're also included in your protein.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
They're just eat protein powder or just food,
like just food, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
You don't need those, you don't need to eat them
separately.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
We used to think that like, hey, maybe if you added
more of these on top it wouldpromote more muscle growth.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
That's not played out .
Well, you know, where thatmostly came from was studies in
old people that weren't gettingenough protein in the first
place.
So then the, of course thathelps.
So then, of course, the BCAAsare going to help, right.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Um, so then, but probiotics, probiotics,
probiotics, probiotics,probiotics are not on here.
Are there any?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
general ones, like just like a gut health.
Yes, there's some very genericones like that.
In fact, I'm just going to tellyou the number one on the list
because it's like super generic,it's miracle pills.
Generic, it's miracle pills,supplements that promise rapid
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weight loss or miraculousresults with little effort are
often too good to be true.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
That's I just love it .
That is so generic.
That is just like bad pills arebad bad pills are bad thanks,
thanks, chad GPT.
I appreciate the info.
Now I know what to avoid.
Okay so fat burners, weightloss pills Like.
(35:18):
Is it just like a weight loss?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
thing.
Yes, usually something to dowith weight loss.
I mean most, half of them arelike a form of weight loss.
Um yeah, like okay.
Number three for example, we'vegot appetite suppressants oh,
just like an appetitesuppressant.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, interest and like there's, there's legit
appetite lip suppressants thatare prescribed by doctors but
something over the counter isn'tgonna work that well um, oh, oh
, um, it's a multivitaminmultivitamins not on there, oh
apple cider vinegar gummies,apple cider vinegar thing,
(35:58):
everything that has apple cidervinegar, anything with apple
cider vinegar um, like I'm, it'snot specifically apple cider
vinegar I'm trying to figure outif one of these would count as
apple cider vinegar, some kindof gummy, and is there any ones
that are like a gummy thing?
Because I feel like the gummything's kind of getting out of
control um.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Some of them can be in the form of gummies.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Is there specific vitamins like vitamin C
Emergency?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
No specific vitamins, actually no vitamins at all.
There's no vitamins, novitamins.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
They're minerals.
Is there one with the minerals?
No, these all seem so generic.
Appetite suppressant, I feellike it's always about weight
loss, so it's got to besomething else.
Crack.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Surprisingly no Cr crack is not on there.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
It's apparently okay to take crack.
That's um something's of.
It's some kind of miracleweight loss pill that was.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
That was number one.
We went over that one already.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I don't know what else was on it.
There's a shirt in our store.
On it there's a what now?
There's a shirt in our merchstore.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Oh, detox things.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
There you go, detoxes .
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Oh, just detox.
Yeah, I'm thinking I got tothink more general Detoxes,
there's like two ones that arevery specific.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Oh, paracycl, two ones that are very specific, and
then parasite cleanse.
Is that on there, surprisingly?
No, well.
Well, you know what?
I'll give you like a half point, because there's one, that's
colon cleanse I feel likeparasite cleanse should be on
there before colon cleanse.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
But I guess I have seen those those.
We've been getting tagged abunch of those videos.
People like blow out yourbutthole with these pills that
make you poop 12 and so.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
So we've gone that end.
Now we got to go this end oh,like penis lengthening drug
supplements I was trying to gofor diuretics, but yeah penis
lengthening ones too.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
That seems like that.
That seems like something thatyou can make some money off of
Diuretic penis lengthening.
Well, you could put both in onepill, I guess, I mean why not
clean everything?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Diuretic Throw it, while you blow it out into a
toilet, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
We'll have to workshop the name.
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
But diuretics, diuretics, well, I guess, as a
if you're looking at it as aweight loss drug, diuretics
don't actually do anything forweight loss.
I mean, they're gonna, well, no, they don't do anything for fat
loss they do things for weightloss in the form of losing water
weight.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Hmm, interesting, interesting, okay, yeah, give me
the other ones.
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
We got metabolism boosters metabolism boost.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yeah, so more weight loss, you just kind of yeah like
.
I feel like that's the kind ofthe same as fat, wasn't that
what's fat?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
yeah, that's pretty much that's what a fat burner is
, is supposed to be a metabolismbooster.
They kind of.
They kind of sorted that intotwo things.
Yeah, um, garcinia cambogia, oh, I've heard of that, I don't
but I don't know this.
Tropical fruit extract is oftenpromoted as a weight loss
supplement, but studies on itseffectiveness have yielded mixed
(39:18):
green tea extract is that onthere?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
green coffee extract was the next one coffee, green
coffee, close enough, so yeah,I've seen that a lot.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Which, of course, is just caffeine.
It's caffeine.
Go drink a cup of coffee, andthe last one was very famous a
couple years ago, like maybe adecade ago now.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Raspberry ketones oh ketones, yeah, I've had some
companies reach out and be liketry it, sell our ketones, fuck
have.
I've had some companies reachout and be like try you, sell
our ketones?
Fuck, yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
That's what I'm gonna start selling like ketones
ketones are part of the processof burning fat.
But if you're supplying yourown ketones, you don't have to
make your own ketones.
But it sounds good like if youjust, if you don't like go into
it it's the same thing as withif you take testosterone your
(40:09):
natural testosterone productionshuts off because you don't need
to make your own testosteroneanymore but see, it still works,
like you still get testosterone, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
So maybe instead just stick with like food and the
basics and you know have yourfrench fries and chips and stuff
when you want it, but try andstick to the more nutrient-dense
foods, like your mollusks intheir own water.
When you can, choose, when youcan.
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Oh, we'll definitely have to geta better list off dr sarah next
week we're gonna have to comeup with some things to ask her,
because, yeah, that list.
I need to ask about that list,though that's that is yeah uh,
well, hopefully you guys enjoyedguessing along with us to let
us know if you were better thanboth of us, which you probably
(41:04):
did, probably did.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah, drop a comment or head over to the patreon and
be like ha ha, robin liam, I didbetter than you how did you not
know about pepper wart orwhatever?
Uh.
Well, you know what, liam, Ithink, after these horrible,
(41:29):
horrible top 10 lists, I thinkwe need to go console ourself
with some balder's gate yeah,balder's gate, that's got all
the supplements.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
You need 100 of the happiness, 200 of the
frustration.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
It always comes together uh and for those of you
who haven't gotten a chance tocheck it out, liam and I have
started of the frustration thatalways comes together.
And for those of you whohaven't gotten a chance to check
it out, liam and I have startedstreaming multiple nights a
week, usually Monday throughThursday, over on Twitch, where
we just play games and hang outwith you guys.
You're welcome to hang out, askquestions, joke around with us.
Whatever Our Twitch is, gamingin Moderation, yep.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
And we've been doing balder skate, but we got plans
for some other games as well andyou can always suggest games
and I'm sure we'll get to.
Like I'm trying to get him toplay we were here, or
civilization or some other stuffthat'd be fun yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
so that was a nice, super chill episode.
It's definitely not because Imessed up on, you know, trying
to get a guest for today and itdidn't get booked properly and
we were just kind of at the lastminute like, hey, let's just do
this.
It's definitely not for thatListen there's so much bullshit
out there.
We've got more than enough time.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
I got other ideas.
Maybe we just go through likeshit that's pissed us off the
most, that in our tag sectionand just go through the videos
and and stuff reading our hatecomments oh, what about who's
the best grifter?
Maybe we could have like a likea debate where you'd be like
this gary brecca versus we needto.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Okay, we're going to invite several people and each
person picks a person.
We're going to have aroundtable debate, exactly just
have a little debate on likewho's the best or who's the
worst, or like that sort ofthing.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
I, I'm in on that.
That would be fun, right?
Speaker 2 (43:10):
uh, yes uh, and of course, if you guys want to
suggest topics or people to comeon, head over to patreon.
I've got a post up right now.
That's hey you.
You guys want to suggestsomebody?
Throw it in here.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah, and don't be your worst no-transcript.
Hey everybody, welcome to episode something of
in moderation, a more somber, amore, a more laid back episode.
Why?
Because it's just Rob and I andalso it's like 11pm for me it's
late.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, I had a very late start to this, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I had shit to do.
So we're just gonna kind ofchill and talk about some stuff.
And we kind of figured out whatwe were doing minutes before
starting this and you know whatwe're going to do Because we're
so prepared.
We're so ready.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We are amazing at preparing.
Listen.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
We spent 10 seconds before we hit, start preparing.
We are going to do lists, notas.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Rob has heard lisps no no, not lisps, there's not an
episode on lisps.
Sorry people who lisp.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Why in lisp would they put an S, Like of all the
letters, to put in the word thatdescribes what people you know
can't pronounce S's.
Would you put an S?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Lisp, it seems mean yeah, like I guess the people
who made these words were justassholes.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Oh, is it like a test ?
So you're like I lisp andyou're like no, you don't you
liar.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
I just heard you say an S.
I think you just discovered theanswer to the age old question.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
That's what it is.
Anyway, that's what you've allbeen wondering.
So, good night, we're going todo an episode on lists, ok.
So next week we have dr sarahballantyne coming on, okay, and
she has what she calls neutrofor, all right, and it is like a a,
a collection of the most likenutrient dense foods and she,
like, ranks them out.
So you know what's morenutrient dense, what's less
(01:36):
nutrient dense.
She'll go over all this stuffnext week.
That's not what's important.
What's important is we want tosound smart.
We know we're not smart, but wewant to sound smart.
So we know we're not smart, butwe want to sound smart.
So we are going to do firstlist.
We're going to do is get thetop 10 most nutrient-dense foods
in the world, and Rob hasn'tseen it.
I have it pulled up.
I'm going to have him try andguess what the top 10 most
(01:58):
nutrient-dense foods are, andthen we know for next week,
we'll throw some stuff out there.
We'll next week, we'll throwsome stuff out there.
We'll sound smart.
And she'd say her doc sarah'snot gonna listen to this episode
, she doesn't know.
Yeah, so we'll be all set.
No one tell her.
No one.
I'll be so mad.
I'll be so mad.
Okay, I have the top 10 mostnutrient-dense foods in the
(02:18):
world pulled up and I will behonest.
If you can guess more, oh boy,golly, two of these I will be
surprised.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Okay.
Well, if Paul Saladino hastaught me anything, one of them
has to be testicles.
Show me testicles.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That's number one.
Testicles are the mostnutrient-dense food in the world
.
Testicles are the mostnutrient-dense food in the world
.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
No testicles, unfortunately not on the list of
most nutrient-dense foods.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Play along at home.
What do you think is the mostnutrient-dense?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
food.
Somebody message me the answer,somebody just travel behind
Liam Look at his screen.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Stop stalling, you just don't want to sound stupid.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I don't want to sound stupid.
Let's try spinach.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Spinach is not on here, but there is something
that is.
I don't want to say it's likespinach, but no, it is not see,
I thought kale, okay, here's.
I'm gonna be honest.
I thought kale and liver wouldboth be on here liver's not on
there liver is not on hereeither.
Interesting yeah, it'sinteresting um no wonder it's
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hard to guess okay, listen, tobe fair to rob.
Fair to Rob, to be fair to Rob.
There's like half the list isjust a variation on one food.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Is it bananas?
It better not be bananas.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Oh, I would be so healthy.
I'd be the healthiest ever Ieat so many bananas.
No, it is not bananas, but itis Okay.
I'll give you a hint.
It kind of looks close.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It looks a lot closer to spinach than it does.
Bananas Looks a lot closer tospinach than it does?
Speaker 1 (04:07):
bananas Looks pretty good.
You know, if you looked at thetwo, you know you could tell the
difference.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
But you know, there's some similarities.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Green leafy.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Green leafy, I'm thinking like lettuce, could it
could be lettuce.
It's not lettuce.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
No.
Okay, lettuce, it's not lettuceno, um, green leafy, take one
more guess and then I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I'm gonna tell you what it is, because it's, it's,
it's, yeah, it's interesting I'mnot gonna facepalm, I'm gonna
facepalm, hands ready, let'sokay, let's hear it, it is
watercress have you ever heard,have you ever seen watercress?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
yeah, there's, sorry, hold on one, two, three, four,
five variations on watercress.
Okay, so there's mustard cressgarden, pepper cress garden,
cress, raw cress garden, cooked,boiled, drained with salt cress
garden, cooked, boiled, drainedwithout salt.
(05:01):
It's without salt.
What?
Kind of list did you look up?
This is the top Listen showingtop 10.
That's what it says at the topof the page, but it's not number
one.
It is not number one.
Number one, boy, is something Iwould never want to eat.
I'll tell you that right nowI've been at a Laffy Taffy.
(05:25):
It's also not that, thankgoodness, I would still not.
I would still not eat it, evenif it was the most
nutrient-dense food.
Um, it is mollusks, clams,really mixed species canned with
liquid, with liquid.
Okay, not without liquid.
You gotta have the molluskliquid in there in order for it
to be the most nutrient-densefood.
(05:45):
Interesting, yeah, so we'regonna have to ask her.
But then two and three are poor, or, wait, two is poor man's
pepper.
Have you ever heard of poorman's pepper?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
No, I've heard of poor man's lobster.
Poor man's lobster.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
It is also not that.
And then pepperwort and peppergrass Raw Pepperwort.
I don't know what pepperwort iseither.
I don't either Listen, listen,okay.
So all that was interesting,but the number 10 is the one I
love the most and this is oneI've had many times.
How do I give you a hint onthis one?
(06:23):
It's something maybe like agamer might drink.
You know, if you're like gaming,you want maybe I'll do no, it's
the only thing gamers drink youneed a little energy and more
caffeine than a mountain dew.
More caffeine than a mountaindew, might you might think the
caffeinated mountain dews.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
You might even call it an energy drink of sorts.
Are you kidding me that anenergy drink is number 10?
I'm not kidding you, I am 100%serious.
Oh man, which energy drink,though?
Is it Red Bull?
It is not Red Bull.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
It is Rockstar.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Really Rockstar.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Rockstar beverage sugar-free.
Now the reason is it says rightnext to it there's like a
little asterisk it saysbeverages energy drink.
Rockstar sugar-free isartificially high due to
non-nutritive sweeteners andfortification.
So basically they add a bunchof vitamins and minerals, you
know, or whatever, and thenthere's no sugar in it.
So it's got like what 20calories and like a whole
(07:21):
Rockstar sugar-free calories andlike a whole rockstar
sugar-free.
So for everyone out there, ifyou are drinking rockstar
sugar-free, you are drinking atop 10 most nutrient-dense food
out there.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
actually actually it's kind of funny, um, when
people go to the hospital foroverdosing on energy drinks,
it's actually not because thecaffeine right, because it can't
.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Is it niacin, like which one is?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
yeah, it's nice and poisoning is it nice.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And I thought, yeah, I remember it was one of those.
Just that goes to show you toomuch of anything.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Uh, yeah, it's problematic, but yeah, that's
the top 10 list, which is uh,yeah I feel like, I feel like, I
like, I feel like I just needto go get dr sarah's book and
fact check against these.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
That's I'm listening.
You can ask her next week.
We go have her on the podcast,um, but liver, it seems like,
has a neutrofor score of likesix thousand.
Now, having said that, these,all these other ones were ten
thousand and above, really.
So you know, drink your rockstars, interesting.
I wonder about spinach also,like spinach and kale are the
(08:30):
ones that always seem to be likeup there with people really
anything that's like reallyspinach low in calories.
Mustard spinach, yeah, aroundsix thousand five to six
thousand.
So, yeah, like anything that'slike low in count.
Like you know, leafy greens arealways gonna be up there and
kale, oh, kale's lower, kale'sonly 4 000.
I'm gonna have to ask dr sarahabout this, anyway, people.
(08:53):
So yeah, the yeah, it'ssomething like lower calories.
Like your leafy greens, it'llgenerally be more nutrient dense
.
I know berries is always likeup there.
I don't know which kind ofberries, but get you, mix your
berries with your mollusk in acan oh, shoot uh berries that
(09:15):
aren't actually berries like uhstrawberries.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Yes, strawberries is strawberries, dear listener did
you know that a strawberry isnot a berry, and bananas are.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I hate, I hate this world.
Cucumbers are as well, anyway.
So yeah, that's, we'll ask,we'll talk more, dr Sarah.
So, rob, over there, you gotchat GPT.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, I'm a little bit more technological advanced
than Liam.
I'm going with chat GPT.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Whoa shots fired at Dr Sarah.
I'm pretty sure she's put a lotof work into NutriVore and
you're going to hear about thatnext week.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Okay, yeah, I'm pretty sure she's a little bit
more, a little bit better thanchat GPT Than.
Ai, I would say so the AI thatcan't do math?
Yeah, okay, well, you askedwhat do you?
What do you ask?
Okay, okay, so I brought upchat gpt's list of the top 10
(10:11):
most toxic foods.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Top 10 I, but I feel like I have an advantage on this
with all the videos I gettagged in right like I gotta get
I know you gotta get somethinghere okay, okay, ready for this.
I feel like I feel confidentabout one.
I'm gonna start right off.
I remember a video with dr markhyman.
Oh, that guy and they weretalking about the worst food for
you and I was gonna do a videowith it, but I could never
(10:35):
really figure out an angle,exactly what to do.
It's either the healthiest food, it's the most toxic,
nutrient-dense food there is.
I'm going to say Skittles,skittles.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Well, I hate to tell you this, but Skittles is not on
the list.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
No, you're fucking lying to me.
There's no way Skittles are onthat list.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Skittles aren't on the list.
With all the dyes and thetitanium dioxide and the
ingredients you know that arebanned in other countries, it's
gotta be the worst thing for youwhat can I tell you I'm maybe
chat gpt just like skittles.
I do like skittles I reallytaste the rainbow, motherfucker.
Um, okay, okay, okay, fine.
(11:20):
So going off of like what did Ilike?
The, the snack?
I feel like the snack cakes.
I feel like I'm going down thegrocery aisle.
The snack cakes have to bethere, the little Debbie's, that
sort of thing.
And what's the biggest?
You know little Debbie there,everyone knows Twinkies, it's
gotta be Twinkies.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Twinkie is also not on the list.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
How, how many?
How long is this list?
It was at three, Is there likethree things?
Speaker 2 (11:40):
you know what it's?
It's 10 things, and not asingle one is junk food oh, so
are we going like raw milk, rawmilk I.
I'm actually surprised that'snot on there okay, so it's like
but there's something elsethat's raw, that's on here oh
boy, how are we censoring thepodcast?
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Like what, we're not going to get any sponsors.
If I answer the question, whatI think was going on Ross like,
so it's maybe like, is it likesome kind of leafy green,
because I always feel likethere's outbreaks with that
spinach or lettuce or likesomething like that Cabbage?
(12:27):
There's a couple that are leafy,but they're not the raw one
that I was referring to.
There's a couple leafy ones,though, but what's?
Iceberg lettuce is always likegetting, like you know, salmon,
like there's outbreaks, likesalmonella or whatever you know,
some kind of tainted.
There's a recall there's nolike iceberg lettuce.
There's no, there's no lettuceon the list.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Nope, no lettuce on the list, no lettuce, no spinach
no, kale no no.
I know it's surprising how manytimes we've been told those
things are so toxic to us andthey're apparently not on the
list.
Is it plutonium?
Is plutonium on the list?
Yes, plutonium is on the list.
That was number three.
Was that number three?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
No, I was going to say wait, chat GPT.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I've never put anything past chat GPT.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
I don't know.
That would be great.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
But I will tell you what is number three.
What is number three Raw honey.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Raw honey for babies, because under like a year
they're not supposed to yeah,that's exactly what it says.
May contain botulinum sporeswhich can be harmful to infants
under one year old says maycontain botulinum spores, which
can be harmful to infants underone year old.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
So on this list, is it thingslike dent, dented cans, like
food that's in like a dented can?
Is there anything like that?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
no okay also dented can.
Stuff is perfectly good on thediscount shelf right.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Yeah, I know, because before now there's a lining in
it and, like I don't know, I'mnot a food.
We have to ask food sciencebabe.
We need food science babe onthis podcast, we do.
I'm going to message her Boy.
So yeah, the honey makes sense.
What else causes like outbreaks?
Raw meat it's got to be somekind of raw meat.
Raw meat.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Raw chicken.
Technically, there is a rawmeat on here, raw testicles.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Raw liver that should be on there.
Rocky Mountain oysters FuguFugu Was that the fish, puffer,
fish, puffer.
Yeah, that's the fish that youhave to like, cut it perfectly,
yep, and then you, yeah, thatone would be totally poisonous.
I don't think I would ever eatthat because from what I hear,
it doesn't taste like good, itdoesn't taste like much.
(14:28):
It's more about just theexperience.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
It's just like the bravery of hey, I ate puffer
fish.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Hmm, yeah, I'm still not eating it, okay, and so I
mean just like spoiled food, oh,moldy food, rotten food, the
thing, that food that has moldon it.
I'm just going to rephrase it.
I mean a bunch of differentways.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
There's a couple on here that are like when unripe
they're deadly Like ackee.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Oh yeah, I have seen ackee.
I had ackee in Jamaica.
It looks looks kind of likeeggs.
It looks like eggs.
It's very weird.
It doesn't really taste muchlike eggs, tastes more like a
fruit and your mind doesn't likeit because you want it to taste
like eggs I never looked it up.
Look up, aki.
It's strange.
Um, is there any?
So there's no more like raw.
(15:23):
What else is like?
Give me another one, give meanother one.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Give you another one.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Well, at number four we've got Nutmeg, Nutmeg in
large quantities can causehallucinations, nausea and
convulsions I've heard that youcan get high off nutmeg.
I've not been.
I've been pretty dumb.
I haven't been dumb enough toattempt the high of nutmeg,
(15:50):
nutmeg.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Okay, man poor christmas um, no wonder we're
all jolly around christmas time.
It's all.
We're just jolly aroundChristmas time, we're just all
about nutmeg.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
You put like an eighth of a teaspoon of nutmeg
in something you fucking know,like you put an eighth of a
teaspoon in the cake and you'relike, oh, this has nutmeg.
That shit is crazy, strong,crazy.
Is there any more spices?
Is there any more spices on thelist?
Like some kind of like weird,like I don't know?
No, no more spices.
No more spices on the list,like some kind of weird.
(16:21):
No, no more spices, no morespices.
But what's this leafy greenthing you're talking about?
I've gone through all thefucking leafy greens, what do
you?
Beet greens, beet greens,rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Ding ding, ding, ding , ding ding I remembered rhubarb
.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
I remembered rhubarb.
There you go.
Is it poisonous if you don'tcook it?
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Oh, the leaves are poisonous, you can only eat the
stems yeah something like thatthe leaves contain high
quantities of oxalic acid.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, Raw oysters, raw oysters.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Surprisingly no.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Bullshit.
Listen, we fucking had Morticiaon here and she told us.
She told us.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, I would not ever want to eat a raw oyster.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
How is raw oysters not on there?
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Well, that should be number two, because I do agree,
fugu, with number one, like youeat the raw piece of.
Fugu, you're just done.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
You're done.
That's really that's not great.
You're just done.
You're done.
That's really that's not great.
I I prefer these.
I'm gonna be honest, I preferthese to like the normal things
we get tagged in where it's just, like you know, like snacks,
some kind of like star crunch,like I love star crunch, though
cheese it's the the fake toxic.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
These are actual toxic things.
Those are fake toxic things Iwant to.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
I want to get.
I'm going to look up like ablog.
I want to look up like a bloglike what's the, what's the
worst foods for you and, justlike you know, midwest crunchy
mom dot org or some shit likethat stupid list.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Okay I'm gonna give you a hint on one more I need we
need to get through this bobbypromotes this seed oils?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
no, um, he promotes.
What is the avocado like?
Is it a fruit?
It's a vegetable?
Oh, it's alcohol, alcohol,alcohol.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I I forget, like the food, youknow, I'm thinking like foods
and I forget about like thedrinks and shit like that.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, that makes sense, it's very important that
he promote the thing that'sactually toxic right?
Speaker 1 (18:28):
yeah, it's, but but his alcohol doesn't have any
sugar in it.
They're less than one gram perbottle, so it's fine, oh okay,
so there's more toxic it's lessof the less of the fake, toxic
thing more of the real toxic ohshit, that's great, okay, okay,
just give me the other one.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
I want to know what else is okay, we got cassava
elderberries boy cassava becausewe, we gmo would like cassava
right or whatever we like.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
We altered it so that it doesn't contain as much like
cyanide as before or some shitlike.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
So is that?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
like that must be like before, or something like
that, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
So I was thinking about that natural cassava um
elderberries, for the samereason as cassava, actually raw
or unripe, elderberries alsocontain cyanide.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Okay, is apple seeds on there or something?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
No, oh, but green potatoes are.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Oh, yeah, okay, Okay, I was thinking potato salt,
yeah, yeah, yeah, once they turngreen or they start like
sprouting like crazy.
Yeah, you don't want to eatthat.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
And the last one is random mushrooms in a forest.
Is that actually what saysmushrooms?
But it says some wild mushroomsare toxic.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Oh, so don't, eat random mushrooms in a forest.
That's because that's not likea.
Okay, I guess that's not likewe don't like, oh death cat
mushrooms.
Like that's not a food.
Mushrooms are a food, butwhatever.
Whatever, I'm getting nitpicky,I'm getting nitpicky, I'm
getting nitpicky.
I'm going to look up worstfoods for your health and then
(20:17):
you are going to have to guessWorst foods for your health.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Here's everyday health top 10 worst foods you
should give up.
Wait, worst foods I should giveup.
The worst foods you shouldworst foods.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
You should give up.
This is the dumbest list ever.
Okay, yo, fuck this list.
I'm actually getting madreading through this.
Really, yeah, it's bullshit.
Fuck this list.
I'm actually getting madreading through this.
Really, yeah, it's bullshit.
All right, what do you?
You know?
(20:45):
Pick your your typical things.
Is bananas on there?
Bananas is on there.
Bananas isn't on there.
Pick the real things thatpeople think are toxic, not your
messed up brain the real thingspeople think are toxic Kale
Spinach.
No, not the fucking carnivoreMDs, the regular people, okay
regular people yes, regularpeople Think about diet culture.
(21:07):
Think about diet culture.
When people like youimmediately you have to give
this up in order to lose weight.
Lucky charms, not lucky charms.
No, there's no cereal.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Oh, okay, that's surprising.
Okay, you need to give this upto sweet seed oils no seed oils.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I wanted seed oils to be on here.
It's not on here okay there'sdefinitely a famous snack that
you just kind of like keep goingback to.
You know like you can just eata whole, a whole bag of lays
chips.
Yes, I'll give that one to you.
Chips you have to give up chips.
Chips is like number two on thelist of worst foods sorry,
number one.
Number one is chips.
(21:46):
Get the fuck out of here.
Chips are I like here's.
Here's the problem with chips.
People like three ounces ofpotatoes like 65 calories.
Three ounces of potato chips islike 400 or 500, between 400
and 500.
That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
The best thing you can do is either portion them
out or buy the smaller bags.
Actually, I was shopping todayand I was looking at Pringles
and I almost got the ones thathave the little tiny containers
that are 100 calories percontainer, like you would give
out on Halloween or something.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Okay, yeah, you know what I'm already mad about this
list.
We're just going to go throughit and talk about what other
things you can do.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Because number two, number two number two.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Number two Rob, rob are you?
Speaker 2 (22:32):
listening, I'm listening Number two, number two
, number two is non-dairytopping such as Kuhip Kuhip.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
And why?
Because it has hydrogenatedvegetable oil.
So vegetable oil is on the list.
You want to tell people thedifference between fucking
hydrogen and partiallyhydrogenated?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, so when we're, we hydrogenate the oil to, you
know, make it more stable andstuff partially hydrogenated oil
.
Of course, as the name implies,it was only partially done and
it contains trans fats and thathas been banned.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Fully hydrogenated oil is fully hydrogenated, does
not contain trans fats yeahthere's nothing wrong with it
you're really not going to seepartially hydrogenated really
anywhere anymore.
It's because the amount oftrans fat like there is trans
fats in food, just like inbutter, like butter has trans
fat, just a small amountnaturally occurring exactly.
(23:32):
So small amounts is fine, sothis list is already fucking
like stupid bullshit.
Number three donuts.
Um, I love donuts.
Yeah, sure, okay, fried, yeah,yeah, yeah.
But like you know, my thing islike, if I'm gonna have a donut,
I want to get a really gooddonut.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I want to get a donut froma place that makes a really
good donut and just enjoy it.
You get like those, likegrocery store donuts and it's
(23:54):
always a.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
It's a bit of a disappointment for me and then
you eat the entire, like six ora dozen of them.
Yeah, I agree with you, go getit.
Go get a nice donut where youcan have one and you can just
savor the moment there's thisplace here in columbus that has
like all these differenttoppings and stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
It's like oreo donut or wild berry donut or like you
know all sorts of crazy shit.
They're so good.
They make them fresh there.
They're still like hot as youget them out.
That's the way to have a donut.
You have it once in a while,not a big deal.
Fucking.
Donuts are so good, okay, okay,okay, okay, okay Okay.
Number four, number four.
Number four Fettuccine Alfredo.
(24:32):
Seriously, seriously.
What's wrong with fettuccinealfredo?
Let's strips of pasta drenchedwith butter, cream and parmesan.
What's not to love?
How about it's fat and calories.
A three ounce serving about thesize of your fist has 543
calories and 33 grams of fat, 19of which are saturated.
(24:55):
Okay, first off, first off,yeah, saturated fat not the
greatest for your health, in in,in large amounts.
You generally want to keep itto around, like you know, 10 ish
percent of your calories.
But like, also, cheese like hasbeen shown to be, you know um
beneficial for her health.
Obviously, everything inmoderation right.
But like you get you, you getum.
(25:15):
You get some chicken, you getsomething like chicken breast
you could breast.
You could add some broccoli toit if you wanted to lower the
calories, to make yourself feela little more satiated.
You get some fiber, you getbarilla protein pasta, or, if
you're gluten-free, you could dolike what's that?
That bonza?
Bonza is really the onlychickpea pasta I could tend to
like enough at least to eat it.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Yeah, it sounds like this list decided to pick the
one recipe that had the mostbutter added, or something.
Yeah, somebody Jesus, and thenyeah with the saturated fat
obviously if you're eating thatevery single day, then that's
going to be bad for you.
Just don't make it every singleday.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Who's eating fettuccine?
That's dumb, I'm okay.
All right, number five Okay,sausage.
Now, five Okay Sausage.
Now I will say processed meats,um, you know, tend to be linked
with a bowel cancer, generallysomething to limit.
So, yeah, like, sure you know,but like you, you can, um it's
still, you can still haveprocessed meats within the
context of an overall healthydiet.
I made my wife um some mealpreps with like sausage and it
(26:15):
was like a stuffed pepper, butnot actually in the stuffed
pepper.
So you like chop up the peppersand you add um like rice and
tomatoes and other things and,like you know, you make it more
of a balanced meal, right andthat's the important thing with
the processed meats is to alsoeat fiber, because fiber reduces
your risk of colorectal cancer.
Just get your fiber in seriously, uh, for For women about 25
(26:40):
grams a day, men around 38.
So you do that.
You're doing awesome.
The average American gets 10 to15.
Don't be your worst, which is Iguess that Number six is fried
chicken.
Fried chicken is on the list oftop 10 most delicious foods.
Fried chicken's got to be there.
It's so good.
Yeah, whoever wrote.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
this list is the top 10 buzz kills of the year.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Seriously, no fucking fried chicken Again.
Don't have it all the time, butyou go to a place that does it
really right and it's delicious.
It's so protein and whatnot.
I love fried chicken.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I make amazing chicken.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
It's good, okay, uh.
Number seven is imitationcheese in a can.
That's if I've always found alittle weird.
I've never like.
I would like to write my namewith it, but I don't really like
to eat it.
It doesn't taste that great.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
I think that's more of an american thing it is here
we have a plenty of snow towrite our name in yeah, gee,
it's just I mean.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
But yeah, I mean, if you like it, I guess, just so
it's weird, it's just a.
It's just a weird thing.
It's like purple ketchup.
Why are we doing that?
And then number eight is frenchfries.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Seriously, this is a bus killkill.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Holy shit.
And then again it just talksabout the calories, yada, yada,
yada, blah, blah, blah, blahblah.
But, like you know, you havesome good fries out or you could
make fries at home.
I love doing like an air fryer,you can make them in the oven.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Air fryers are amazing for that.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Salt pepper.
I like, I usually like theseasoning mixes, but like chili
powder, well, maybe even alittle bit of cumin or cumin.
People always get mad at mewhen I say cumin, cumin, god
Jesus, people get mad ateverything.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I make my own little spice mix for making fries Some
cumin, some salts, some bakingsoda or baking powder, baking
powder, baking soda.
One or the other, which is thesecret for when using an air
fryer.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
It'll help crisp it up more.
Wow.
And then it's the healthiersubstitute for French fries.
Sauteed tempeh Listen people, Ilike tempeh.
Tempeh is fermented soybeans.
I enjoy it.
It's kind of like somewhat of ameat substitute.
I do it in chilies and stuff.
It's not French fries.
What the fuck are you doing?
What shit are?
Speaker 2 (29:02):
you on, like if you're going to suggest an
alternative for something itneeds to actually fulfill the
desire for that.
I mean like If I want Frenchfries, I don't want to go get
tempeh.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
And then like, yeah, these like fry, for the fried
chicken it was just grilledchicken.
Like, yeah, okay, I likegrilled chicken, but like it's
fresh, oh, oh, all right, I onlygotta finish up a couple more
of these and then I'm donefucking.
Oh, white bread.
Who can't have white bread?
Literally the first, literallyliterally the first sentence
after is you may, you may aswell have a candy bar.
How about you get fucked?
(29:39):
How about you get fucked?
Instead, it's okay, it's bread.
It's 70 calories or so for athing of white bread.
You throw on you know somepeanut butter.
You have a peanut butter andjelly, a sandwich, you know you
put some, you know tomatoes,onions, whatever, spinach,
something like.
Why do we have to hate bread somuch?
I don't know.
(30:01):
And yeah, it's like, oh, it'slike, if you can get a whole
grain, you know whole grainbread, like a whole, you know
made from whole wheat, that'sgreat.
But like, if you like whitebread and what you enjoy, then
just you know, balance it out.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Jesus, and like when you're making something like
French toast white bread canabsorb so much more of that egg
mixture.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
OK, and then the last one.
We just go.
The last one.
Um fried wontons man justfucking more buzzkill just
because of fry it's just, yeah,I mean, uh, cream cheese fried,
too much fat, too greasy.
It too greasy a treat foranyone trying to stay fit?
Hey, get fucked, fuck face.
I can eat fried wontons and beplenty fit, like you, just don't
.
What am I eating them?
It's too greasy a treat foranyone trying to stay fit?
Hey, get fucked, fuckface.
(30:46):
I can eat fried wontons and beplenty fit Like you, just don't
Am I eating them every day?
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Obviously you're eating them every day.
Liam's got a live stream going.
He's just sitting there eatingwontons all day long.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Hey, everyday health, you're not in moderation
approved.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Get fucked.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
All right, well, I'm done with that.
That's fucking stupid.
That's stupid okay, liam, I'vegot uh chat gpt here giving me
the top 10 fake diet supplementsoh, like the work, like the
worst diet supplements, thingsyou shouldn't be taking, or like
waste the money waste of money.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Some products may contain false claims or contain
potentially harmful ingredients.
Here's 10 types of fake ordubious diet supplements to
watch out for I, I feel, I okay,I feel a little confident going
into this.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I feel like, is it?
I feel like they're probablygonna pick, like, some of the
most popular ones.
There's definitely some popularones, right, so I'm going to
say a couple of them that maybeI don't think deserve to be in
the top, but are popular.
So is Ashwagandha on the list?
It is not.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Is turmeric on the list?
It is not Okay.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
So those ones, I don't know if they deserve to be
on the list, it is not okay.
So those ones, like I've seen,like you know, I don't know if
they deserve to be on the list,but like those are popular.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
So I was thinking, oh okay, fat burners, fat burners
number two boom number two, Ifeel yes, number two let's go
stop buying fat burners fatburners are pretty much at this.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
So okay to okay to be fair, fat burners back in the
day, like decades ago, theyworked.
They basically like uncoupledduring the electron transport
chain so that it would justgenerate a lot of heat.
So you would just get super hot, you would just give off,
because calories are a unit ofmeasurement, specifically a
measurement of heat.
(32:43):
So you just give off all thisheat and there's people that
have died from taking too manybecause, like you know, you turn
yourself into like a minifurnace.
Um, so yeah they, they worked,but like dangerous as fuck.
So now there's a bunch ofregulations because the
government doesn't let us turnourselves into ovens.
Oh, the government, big fdafucking with us why doesn't fda
(33:05):
ever do anything about these?
if I want to be an oven, that'smy choice.
Um, okay, so yeah, now they'repretty much just caffeine, which
you know, just drink coffee orsome shit like some.
Or sugar-free hey, you'resugar-free monster, or what was
it?
Rockstar?
Rockstar, yeah, you can getyour top 10 most nutrient-dense
(33:28):
food.
Um, okay, what else is, uh,bcaas?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
they are not on there .
They should be on there.
They should be on there.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I feel like on there I feel like so anybody listen.
Bcaa is like you know.
You can just eat Like you,don't need the branch chain
amino acids Like it's just it'strue that the branch chain amino
acids are important for musclebuilding?
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yes, but they're also included in your protein.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
They're just eat protein powder or just food,
like just food, it's fine.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
You don't need those, you don't need to eat them
separately.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
We used to think that like, hey, maybe if you added
more of these on top it wouldpromote more muscle growth.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
That's not played out .
Well, you know, where thatmostly came from was studies in
old people that weren't gettingenough protein in the first
place.
So then the, of course thathelps.
So then, of course, the BCAAsare going to help, right.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Um, so then, but probiotics, probiotics,
probiotics, probiotics,probiotics are not on here.
Are there any?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
general ones, like just like a gut health.
Yes, there's some very genericones like that.
In fact, I'm just going to tellyou the number one on the list
because it's like super generic,it's miracle pills.
Generic, it's miracle pills,supplements that promise rapid
(34:52):
weight loss or miraculousresults with little effort are
often too good to be true.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
That's I just love it .
That is so generic.
That is just like bad pills arebad bad pills are bad thanks,
thanks, chad GPT.
I appreciate the info.
Now I know what to avoid.
Okay so fat burners, weightloss pills Like.
(35:18):
Is it just like a weight loss?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
thing.
Yes, usually something to dowith weight loss.
I mean most, half of them arelike a form of weight loss.
Um yeah, like okay.
Number three for example, we'vegot appetite suppressants oh,
just like an appetitesuppressant.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah, interest and like there's, there's legit
appetite lip suppressants thatare prescribed by doctors but
something over the counter isn'tgonna work that well um, oh, oh
, um, it's a multivitaminmultivitamins not on there, oh
apple cider vinegar gummies,apple cider vinegar thing,
(35:58):
everything that has apple cidervinegar, anything with apple
cider vinegar um, like I'm, it'snot specifically apple cider
vinegar I'm trying to figure outif one of these would count as
apple cider vinegar, some kindof gummy, and is there any ones
that are like a gummy thing?
Because I feel like the gummything's kind of getting out of
control um.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Some of them can be in the form of gummies.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Is there specific vitamins like vitamin C
Emergency?
Speaker 2 (36:26):
No specific vitamins, actually no vitamins at all.
There's no vitamins, novitamins.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
They're minerals.
Is there one with the minerals?
No, these all seem so generic.
Appetite suppressant, I feellike it's always about weight
loss, so it's got to besomething else.
Crack.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Surprisingly no Cr crack is not on there.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
It's apparently okay to take crack.
That's um something's of.
It's some kind of miracleweight loss pill that was.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
That was number one.
We went over that one already.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
I don't know what else was on it.
There's a shirt in our store.
On it there's a what now?
There's a shirt in our merchstore.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Oh, detox things.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
There you go, detoxes .
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Oh, just detox.
Yeah, I'm thinking I got tothink more general Detoxes,
there's like two ones that arevery specific.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
Oh, paracycl, two ones that are very specific, and
then parasite cleanse.
Is that on there, surprisingly?
No, well.
Well, you know what?
I'll give you like a half point, because there's one, that's
colon cleanse I feel likeparasite cleanse should be on
there before colon cleanse.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
But I guess I have seen those those.
We've been getting tagged abunch of those videos.
People like blow out yourbutthole with these pills that
make you poop 12 and so.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
So we've gone that end.
Now we got to go this end oh,like penis lengthening drug
supplements I was trying to gofor diuretics, but yeah penis
lengthening ones too.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
That seems like that.
That seems like something thatyou can make some money off of
Diuretic penis lengthening.
Well, you could put both in onepill, I guess, I mean why not
clean everything?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Diuretic Throw it, while you blow it out into a
toilet, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
We'll have to workshop the name.
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
But diuretics, diuretics, well, I guess, as a
if you're looking at it as aweight loss drug, diuretics
don't actually do anything forweight loss.
I mean, they're gonna, well, no, they don't do anything for fat
loss they do things for weightloss in the form of losing water
weight.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Hmm, interesting, interesting, okay, yeah, give me
the other ones.
I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
We got metabolism boosters metabolism boost.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Yeah, so more weight loss, you just kind of yeah like
.
I feel like that's the kind ofthe same as fat, wasn't that
what's fat?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
yeah, that's pretty much that's what a fat burner is
, is supposed to be a metabolismbooster.
They kind of.
They kind of sorted that intotwo things.
Yeah, um, garcinia cambogia, oh, I've heard of that, I don't
but I don't know this.
Tropical fruit extract is oftenpromoted as a weight loss
supplement, but studies on itseffectiveness have yielded mixed
(39:18):
green tea extract is that onthere?
Speaker 1 (39:20):
green coffee extract was the next one coffee, green
coffee, close enough, so yeah,I've seen that a lot.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
Which, of course, is just caffeine.
It's caffeine.
Go drink a cup of coffee, andthe last one was very famous a
couple years ago, like maybe adecade ago now.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Raspberry ketones oh ketones, yeah, I've had some
companies reach out and be liketry it, sell our ketones, fuck
have.
I've had some companies reachout and be like try you, sell
our ketones?
Fuck, yeah, that's what.
Speaker 2 (39:48):
That's what I'm gonna start selling like ketones
ketones are part of the processof burning fat.
But if you're supplying yourown ketones, you don't have to
make your own ketones.
But it sounds good like if youjust, if you don't like go into
it it's the same thing as withif you take testosterone your
(40:09):
natural testosterone productionshuts off because you don't need
to make your own testosteroneanymore but see, it still works,
like you still get testosterone, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
So maybe instead just stick with like food and the
basics and you know have yourfrench fries and chips and stuff
when you want it, but try andstick to the more nutrient-dense
foods, like your mollusks intheir own water.
When you can, choose, when youcan.
(40:43):
Oh, we'll definitely have to geta better list off dr sarah next
week we're gonna have to comeup with some things to ask her,
because, yeah, that list.
I need to ask about that list,though that's that is yeah uh,
well, hopefully you guys enjoyedguessing along with us to let
us know if you were better thanboth of us, which you probably
(41:04):
did, probably did.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah, drop a comment or head over to the patreon and
be like ha ha, robin liam, I didbetter than you how did you not
know about pepper wart orwhatever?
Uh.
Well, you know what, liam, Ithink, after these horrible,
(41:29):
horrible top 10 lists, I thinkwe need to go console ourself
with some balder's gate yeah,balder's gate, that's got all
the supplements.
Speaker 1 (41:37):
You need 100 of the happiness, 200 of the
frustration.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
It always comes together uh and for those of you
who haven't gotten a chance tocheck it out, liam and I have
started of the frustration thatalways comes together.
And for those of you whohaven't gotten a chance to check
it out, liam and I have startedstreaming multiple nights a
week, usually Monday throughThursday, over on Twitch, where
we just play games and hang outwith you guys.
You're welcome to hang out, askquestions, joke around with us.
Whatever Our Twitch is, gamingin Moderation, yep.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
And we've been doing balder skate, but we got plans
for some other games as well andyou can always suggest games
and I'm sure we'll get to.
Like I'm trying to get him toplay we were here, or
civilization or some other stuffthat'd be fun yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
so that was a nice, super chill episode.
It's definitely not because Imessed up on, you know, trying
to get a guest for today and itdidn't get booked properly and
we were just kind of at the lastminute like, hey, let's just do
this.
It's definitely not for thatListen there's so much bullshit
out there.
We've got more than enough time.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
I got other ideas.
Maybe we just go through likeshit that's pissed us off the
most, that in our tag sectionand just go through the videos
and and stuff reading our hatecomments oh, what about who's
the best grifter?
Maybe we could have like a likea debate where you'd be like
this gary brecca versus we needto.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Okay, we're going to invite several people and each
person picks a person.
We're going to have aroundtable debate, exactly just
have a little debate on likewho's the best or who's the
worst, or like that sort ofthing.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
I, I'm in on that.
That would be fun, right?
Speaker 2 (43:10):
uh, yes uh, and of course, if you guys want to
suggest topics or people to comeon, head over to patreon.
I've got a post up right now.
That's hey you.
You guys want to suggestsomebody?
Throw it in here.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah, and don't be your worst no-transcript.
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