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May 8, 2025 37 mins

"If you're giving millions, treat it like an investment—because your legacy is on the line."


What You’ll Discover Today:


In this episode of The Inside BS Show, Dave Lorenzo sits down with Michael Cleavenger, a seasoned fundraising strategist and advisor to affluent donors, to pull back the curtain on how nonprofit organizations really work. They explore how high-net-worth individuals can contribute meaningfully and responsibly, and how to avoid common pitfalls when making large donations.


Key Topics Discussed:

  • How Michael Cleavenger raised over $260 million for the Illinois Institute of Technology and what he learned in the process
  • The biggest myth about nonprofit donations—and why tax benefits aren’t the main motivator
  • The truth about nonprofit operations: P&L statements, executive compensation, and board oversight
  • Why long-term donors value relationships more than transactions
  • What major donors should demand before giving: contracts, audits, and real oversight
  • The pyramid strategy of fundraising—from large gifts to grassroots donations
  • Red flags to look for in a nonprofit’s Form 990
  • The difference between mission-driven programs and revenue-chasing “mission creep”
  • How naming rights work—and why they’re rarely permanent
  • Why some donors choose to sunset their foundations and how that affects future giving

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Call to Action:

If you’re thinking about making a significant contribution to a nonprofit organization—or advising someone who is—listen to this episode first. Then, connect with Michael Cleavenger to ensure your legacy is protected and your impact is real.

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