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Jenny Harkleroad shares how she discovered the power of the mind to overcome chronic pain after a devastating fall broke her back, revealing transformative techniques to reprogram our subconscious thoughts and change our lives.

• Chronic physical pain often connected to emotional suppression and stress
• Breaking her back in 2013 became the catalyst for discovering mind-body healing
• Conventional medicine and surgery failed, while mind techniques healed her completely
• The "17 Second Rule" - thoughts become feelings after just 17 seconds of focus
• The subconscious mind is a million times more powerful than the conscious mind
• Our automatic reactions are programmed in our subconscious and can be changed
• Most people have 50,000-80,000 thoughts daily (80% negative, 90% repeated)
• The golden question to ask yourself: "How would I rather feel?"
• "Your life is a printout of your subconscious program"
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Cassandra (00:00):
And I'd like to welcome you to Is your Way In
your Way podcast and for my newlisteners out there, that is the
name of my book, is your Way Inyour Way, and it is a
self-discovery guide for womenon how to restore yourself,
learn from the experiences thatyou've already had and to be
your true self again, and wetalk about topics related to, I

(00:23):
say, personal improvement,business improvement, personal
development In addition to it'sgoing to enable you to do some
self-reflection.
These are for individuals thatare stuck, and what I mean by
that it was kind of like I'mbeing stuck.
I wanted to write a book, Iwanted to write a book for so
many years and I just could notdo it.

(00:45):
Like many of you, you want tostart your own business, you
want to be an author, you wantto be a coach, you want to get
out of a relationship that's notgood for you, that you know is
toxic, but you're just stuck,and so, therefore, I have an
individual on today that I amsuper, super excited about, and

(01:05):
her name is Jenny Harkleroad,and I'd like to welcome her to
the stage.
Hello, jenny, how are you?

Jenny (01:14):
Hi, cassandra, so good to be here.
Thanks for having me.

Cassandra (01:17):
Thank you for being here.
Our topic everyone is titled 17Seconds to Wellness and Success
, and we're going to use thescience of your mind and one of
the things listeners, after Iread Jenny's bio, I want you to.
There's going to be sometakeaways, insight on harnessing

(01:42):
the subconscious mind to breakthose personal barriers and
achieve transformative growth,gaining practical tools for a
purpose-driven life.
So, in other words, we're goingto talk about shifting your
belief and I'm going to read abit about Jenny.
And actually she is a numberone bestseller and author and I

(02:05):
just found out she wrote threebooks.
She is a dynamic speaker, arenowned mind change expert, a
proud mother of four andsuccessful entrepreneur.
She has built a multimilliondollar business in San Diego.
Over 13 years, Her life took adramatic I mean dramatic turn

(02:27):
after a mountain cliff fall lefther with a broken back yeah, a
broken back.
Fueled by this life-changingexperience, Jenny harnessed the
power of her mind to overcomechronic pain, Addictions and
Unhappiness, Discovering how toCreate a Life of True Joy and

(02:49):
Fulfillment.
Now she's on a mission, and hermission is to transform lives
by helping others unlock what'smissing and rewrite their own
story.
I don't want you guys to missthis inspiring conversation.
I certainly could have usedJenny years ago and I'm certain
I can use her again because Icontinue to be a work in

(03:11):
progress.
So, Jenny, let me ask you thisI want to know about your
backstory.
Before you became, you were mad, you were sad and in pain.
What was going on prior to allthat with you?

Jenny (03:29):
Yeah, that's a great story, and it's going to start
all the way back in thebeginning, when I was very young
and my mother would tell mewhat to do, and I would tell her
that she was not the boss of me, that I should be able to do
whatever I wanted to do, and, asyou can imagine, that didn't go
very well.
And so, when I was two yearsold, I asked if I could move out

(03:51):
, because I don't know what shethought, but she thought she was
in charge of me.
Wow, she wouldn't let me moveout again.
She was in charge.
And so you can imagine this,this head-butting just went on
my whole growing up, because Ihonestly did not understand why

(04:14):
she thought she got to make mychoices.
I mean, it just blew my mindyeah, it blew her mind equally
that I thought I didn't have tolisten.
Okay, oh, wow, this is alreadyexciting Way back then.
Okay, and what happened was howmy body dealt with the
frustration that was going onwas by causing pain, and so I

(04:38):
started.
In elementary school, I wasalways in the nurse's office.
When I was 12 years old, I gotput on prescription pain pills.
When I was in my 20s, they toldme.
I was in liver failure from allthe pain pills I'd been taking.
That's how my body dealt with.
Stress was suppress it, andpain and I didn't understand

(05:01):
that had anything to do with myemotions.
I thought it's like how unluckyam I that I've got this
emotional pain and this physicalpain?
I didn't know they were, youknow, hand in hand.
Wow, I met my husband superyoung.
We got married and again kindof back to my mom.
My mom was the boss ofeverything, yeah, even my dad,

(05:22):
and so when I got married Ithought I was the boss.
Finally, yeah, when I startedtelling my husband what to do,
he wouldn't listen.
Wow, okay.
And the frustration continuedand the pain in my body
continued, and so I had thislife of chronic physical pain
bad, bad, sad, frustrated, inpain and not knowing how to fix

(05:47):
it.
So I was always trying to fixmy body, but I didn't really
know how to fix the other partsof my life.
I would just always focus ontrying to fix my body, and as
soon as I fix one problem withmy body, then another problem
would pop up.

Cassandra (06:01):
And so that was kind of the background of my life.

Jenny (06:04):
However, at the same time , I was financially.
I mean, I'm great at sales andI was always top of my game
financially and so that's whereI would put my focus.
I'd go build a business andmake money, but on the back end
I was in pain and hurting andjust trying to put on a happy
face because I didn't know whatelse to do.

(06:25):
Wow, it was a rough growing up.
Yeah, it sounds like it.

Cassandra (06:32):
Wow, you're looking good on the outside, but the
inside is just tearing you apart.
Oh, my gosh.
So wow, it's interesting, youat the age of two.
To me it's just fascinating.
It's like, look, I want to dothings my way, and obviously
that was kind of ingrained inyou and you kept saying it and

(06:53):
and because your mom was theboss, you kind of retaliated on
that.

Jenny (06:59):
Oh for sure yeah, I mean the interesting thing is I never
wanted to do anything quoteunquote wrong.
Yeah, I mean the interestingthing is I never wanted to do
anything quote unquote wrong.
I just want to make my ownchoices.
You know I wanted to take a napif I wanted to take a nap, not
because you told me to take anap, type of thing, right, wow?
So yeah, it was very hard forme.

Cassandra (07:22):
My mom always said I was born an adult and I just
didn't understand what is goingon with all these people that
think they're in charge.
Wow, well, this is interesting.
So life continues, and youactually, from that point you
got on a, you broke your back.
Now, obviously you were maybemountain climbing or something,
and that's something that youwanted to do, and and and when

(07:46):
you broke your back curious to,what was your perspective after
you broke your back versus whatyour perspective is now?

Jenny (07:57):
yeah, that's a great question.
You know, it was back in 2013.
I'll just tell you the storyreal quick.
I I was standing on thismountain ledge with my husband
We'd been camping and hikingwith friends and he completely
innocently said, like if I wasyoung and in shape, I'd jump off
of here instead of climbingdown.
And I looked down and I thoughtthat's not that far and I

(08:18):
jumped.
And when I landed I heard acrunch in my back and I couldn't
move and he tried to get me upand couldn't.
Friends tried to get me upcouldn't.
They ended up calling 911.
911 sent in a ground crew.
They hiked in.
They couldn't get me out.
They ended up calling LifeFlight.
Life Flight comes out.
I get ziplined up to a hoveringhelicopter, wake up in the

(08:41):
hospital where they told me youbroke your back.
Oh my God.
What, oh my God.
And so picture this at the timeso I've got a thriving real
estate business, four kids, sosuper busy.
I was running the women'sorganization of my church.
I was super involved incommunity activities and events

(09:05):
and fundraising.
So my life was just go, go, go,go, go, go go.
And now I'm like bedridden, wow.
So I had some thinking time,right, yeah yeah.
What I thought is well, first,I want to get better, but second
is I'm just not happy.
What, what?
How do I?

(09:25):
How do I feel better,emotionally and physically?
Because I've been strugglingwith both of these my whole life
, although I mostly thought ofthe physical part.
I've been struggling and I wantto like my husband again.
I want to be happy, I want tolose weight.
I want to.
You know what I want to do,something that I'm passionate

(09:47):
about.
Real estate was nice.
It was fine, it was good, but Ididn't wake up excited about it
.
Why?
Because I would get 250 callson average per day for real
estate 250.
Oh wow, that's a lot of phonecalls when trying to mother four
children and do all the otherthings I was doing Exactly.
There was a lot and again I justwasn't like super passionate

(10:11):
about it.
So I just laid there thinkinglike how do I fix all this?
There's, you know, like I'vegot the worst temper.
I don't want to have a badtemper, like how do I fix myself
?
How do I change myself?
I've been saying positiveaffirmations in the mirror for
20 years and clearly that's notworking for me.
Who I am and how I am, how do Ibe who I want to be, not just

(10:37):
successful and everybody's like,oh, she's got it all together
because look at all the thingsshe has and you know she married
her high school sweetheart.
They have this beautiful family, looked good from the outside,
exactly not happy on the inside.

Cassandra (10:52):
That's amazing, jenny , because I think many of us
have.
You know, I, I think, as wegrow, we were told to you know,
you go to school, go to college.
After college, you get a job,get a husband, get a family, you
know.
So we all go through thatbecause, as you indicated,
that's what you were told, thatthat's what it was, that maybe

(11:14):
for you to be successful, oreither that's how the world is,
and by you I would say you weredefiant back in the day.
That kind of came until even thereal estate, like, okay, I'm
making money, I'm doing this,but it sounds like it just took
a fall and it's unfortunate.
But thank God, you're stillhere and obviously your back was

(11:36):
healed and you'll tell us alittle bit about that.
But but you says, okay, give me.
I think I need another chance.
So what's going on while I'mhere?
It could be like God has put meon my knees, my back.
Well, I can't do nothing.
And so now it's time for melike, ok, if I'm going to
continue to live, I actually,you know, I'm going my back's,

(12:00):
going to heal and all of thisstuff, but I'm not happy.
Back's, going to heal and allof this stuff, but I'm not happy
.
So how did you figure out whatit was, or?

Jenny (12:09):
what your?

Cassandra (12:10):
purpose was doing all of that.

Jenny (12:11):
Yeah Well, I wish I figured it out quickly, but I
actually my back wouldn't getbetter.
As I started to get mobile, thepain started to get worse and
worse and worse.
Literally daily, I was seeingeither a chiropractor and
acupuncture massage or physicaltherapy.
Like every day, I was doingsomething for my back and it

(12:32):
just kept getting worse.
So a year after I broke it, Istarted taking pain pills for my
back and then, two years afterI broke my back, I still
couldn't even sit in a chair.
So remember my habit of puttingon a happy face and pretending
everything's fine.
I was still a top producingreal estate agent, not even able

(12:57):
to function because I wasmaking calls from bed and paying
people to drive me laying inthe back of my car on ice packs
to appointments.
I mean, it was ridiculous.
But, here's the reason I didn'theal.
The reason I didn't heal isbecause I would have gone back
to the same thing and I want tolearn the lesson.

(13:17):
Okay, searching for a solutionis where I found my answer.
So, two years after I break myback, I say you know what?
There is something structurallywrong here.
We're going to, we're going tohave surgery.
So I convince literallyconvince surgeons to put rods

(13:38):
and screws in a synthetic discin my back, thinking that'll fix
the problem.
Okay, seven months later, afterthe surgery, can't sit, can't
drive, can't function, backfeels like it's on fire, same as
before the surgery.
Now I just can't really, youknow, twist cause I'm full of
metal.
Yes, I'm thinking now what?
And they're like you're justgoing to have to learn to live

(14:00):
with the pain.
Oh just give me pain pills andI'm thinking no.
I don't understand.
I'm a go getter.

Cassandra (14:09):
Yes.

Jenny (14:09):
I can't live in this body .
There has to be a solution, youknow, and they're like there's
nothing you've tried at all.
We've tried it all like sorry,no, no, no, no, there's got to
be a way.
So I asked everybody what doyou do for back pain?
What do you do?
What do you do I?
I end up getting referred to amedical doctor and who told me

(14:33):
that I could heal myself with mymind, and I said what are you
talking about?

Cassandra (14:40):
Okay, what kind?

Jenny (14:42):
of doctor, are you Exactly With my mind?
Okay, but I'm desperate.
So sure, let's try it Longstory short, and we can get into
some of it if you want later.
But long story short.
Six sessions later I'mcompletely healed and I'm doing

(15:02):
handstands and backbends.

Cassandra (15:04):
I mean healed now what kind of doctor?
Was he a medical doctor?

Jenny (15:14):
okay, okay, all right I know a medical doctor who
learned a lot of alternativetypes of medicine when he would
find that he he would doeverything he could with his
patients.
If they still had a problem, hewanted to offer them other
solutions.
Okay, we learned a lot of otherthings about the power of the

(15:37):
mind and how the mind controlsthe body.
And for me, basically, what wasgoing on was I had so much
tension in my mind from thestories I told you of my life.

Cassandra (15:50):
Yes.

Jenny (15:50):
The tension in my mind was causing tension in my body.
So if you think about likelifting weights, like doing
bicep curls, yeah, If you dothis you know, after a while it
starts to burn.
Yeah, and if you keep doing it,it starts to burn more and it
won't stop burning until youstop.
And as soon as you stop, giveit a couple seconds like oh,

(16:18):
okay, so this is what was goingon with my back.
It was like my subconsciousmind chose this weak part of my
body and was just tight.
And so he kept telling me, wegot to like release that tension
.
And I couldn't.
I couldn't feel any tension,you know, it was subconscious,
yeah, but what we had to do waswork through some things in my
life.
But it was not just the workingthrough things in my life,

(16:41):
cause I've been through to apsychologist before.
It wasn't just the talkingabout it, but it was the
understanding that thisemotional stuff is causing this
physical stuff, and so, in orderto release the physical, you
have to let go of the emotional.
And so that's what we're ableto do.
And my body, after six sessions, just let go, stopped curling

(17:05):
the biceps, stopped tensing theback and all of a sudden the
pain stopped.
And here's the thing our bodiesare meant to heal.
Right, my body was healed.
It'd been three years, but Ithought it wasn't because it
hurt.
But it hurt because of thetension not because something
was wrong with it.

Cassandra (17:24):
That sounds great.
And the reason I say that?
Because I used to go to thedoctor all the time and every
time I would go to a doctor theywould tell me I was stressed
and that was my problem.
My headaches my stomach aches,my back hurts and I would even
get more stressed because theywould tell me I'm stressed and
I'm like, okay, well, how am Igoing to get unstressed?

(17:47):
I never ran into somebody thatsay it's your mind.
I'm like I'm not sure how torespond to that, but you in a
situation where go get heranyway.
So look, I'll try anything.
How bad else can it get?
So what are some of the thingsthat he shared with you in
regards to your mind that youhad to?
How?

(18:08):
Okay, you have the subconsciousand the conscious mind.
So what?
What were your thoughts andthoughts?
And, in other words, when yousaid you started feeling better,
what was in your mind?
Something had to change.
What was he telling you to dofor that change?

Jenny (18:29):
Yeah.
So a lot of it was just theawareness of what the pain was
coming from.
And he used muscle testing, andmuscle testing I was familiar
with because I grew up with adad who's a chiropractor, and a
lot of chiropractors use muscletesting.
So what my dad would do formuscle testing is he would run
his fingers down someone's spine, but their other arm they would

(18:52):
hold it out parallel to thefloor and he'd press it down
while he was going down theirspine.
And when he would get to a spotin their spine where there was
a subluxation, a disc out ofalignment, all of a sudden they
couldn't hold up their arm.
So they'd go, ah, that's thespot.
He would adjust it and then hewould test it again.
All of a sudden they could holdup their arm, and so it was
like the body's biofeedbacksystem.

(19:15):
And so this doctor started doingthe same thing with me, but not
physically.
He was doing it emotionally.
He was asking my body what iscausing the pain, and with the
muscle test my body was sayingemotions.
And so then he said Okay, jenny, let's talk about your emotions
Now.
Remember how I had learned tocope with my life was

(19:36):
suppression which caused tension.
So when he asked me tell meabout your childhood, I go nah,
I don't talk about my childhood.
And he says well, let's talkabout your marriage.
And I go nah, I don't talk aboutmy marriage and he's like well,
I thought you said you don'thave emotional things.
And I literallyited my positiveaffirmations to myself I don't,

(19:56):
I'm happy, I'm healthy, I'mterrific.
I just can't sit, can't drive,can't function, burning back
pain right, it's structural.
And he's like did you just feelthat muscle test?
Because the muscle test showedthat it was emotional.
So if you want to feel better,we're gonna have to talk about
these things.
Okay, I was Like oh boy, do youhave Kleenex?
A lot of 40 years ofsuppression is sitting in front

(20:20):
of you.
Yes, you know but again itwasn't just the sharing, it was
the sharing but knowing that iscausing tension and pain in my
body.
And so if I can stop, if I canstop holding on to that tension,
I can, I can let go of thesethings.

(20:42):
And we did that through somebrain, some brain work.
Then all of a sudden my bodycan just relax, and when I
relaxed my body doesn't hurt.

Cassandra (20:53):
Okay, would that happen to be something with the
second 17 seconds?
Yeah, let's talk about the 17seconds.
Let's talk about that because Idefinitely want to hear about
that.

Jenny (21:05):
So here's the thing we have, according to psychologists
, 50,000 to 80,000 thoughts perday, about 80% negative, about
90% a repeat of yesterday.
And the stories we're tellingourself.
We believe it's our perception,it's our lens through which we

(21:26):
see the world.
We're believing our story andas soon as we believe our story,
we feel that it's true and ourbrain attracts all these other
stories to prove to us why whatwe're thinking and feeling is
true.
It's this feedback loop andthis happens just over.
Like it starts with 17 seconds.
You have a thought, it's anelectrical signal in your brain

(21:47):
for just 17 seconds, yeah.
Then when it goes on for morethan 17 seconds, it becomes a
feeling and that feeling locksin a new energy.
And people talk about how do youattract and how do you manifest
what you want?
Or a lot of people say I'mmanifesting what I don't want.
It's because of what you'rethinking.
So the 17 second rule is to payattention to what's going

(22:10):
through your head and it's realeasy to spot it on other people.
I walked by a girl's church onSunday and she's sneezing and
she goes.
I have the worst immune systemever and I'm like, oh, you
shouldn't say that.

Cassandra (22:23):
Okay, so that's what.
That's what you mean by thought, cause I was going to give us
some examples, like what dopeople think about?

Jenny (22:31):
I don't think I can accomplish this, or I'm having a
bad day, or you know anything.
I'm not feeling well, likeanything that you don't want to
be your reality.
My kids don't appreciate me, myhusband, whatever, doesn't make
time for me, whatever thethings are that you're thinking,
as soon as you think it andhold the thought, it becomes a

(22:53):
feeling that you believe and itliterally changes your energy
field.
So you start attracting moreand more and more of that
because you believe it and whatyou, what you think about, is
what you bring about and whatyou focus on, expands.
And so the 17 second rule islike catch it stop.
You know, don't say you'restuck.
Say how do I move forward.
You know, don't say you'restuck.
Say how do I move forward.

(23:14):
Okay, what's?
my next step.
So the 17 seconds is catchingthe thought.
And you know, if you set analarm for once an hour and just
when it goes off, ask yourselfwhat am I thinking right now?
Yeah, shocked about hownegative you are Like what is
going on.
Yeah, and don't believe whatyou're telling yourself because

(23:34):
it's just your own narration,it's just a story.
So the moral of the 17 secondrule is to catch the thought and
then ask yourself the goldenquestion how would I rather feel
?
Or what would I rather think,or what would I rather achieve,
or how would I rather be Now inmy work.
The next step is we do a brainexercise that literally

(23:56):
repatterns the subconscious mindso that it creates that new
reality, because thesubconscious, it's a million
times more powerful than theconscious mind.
Why?

Cassandra (24:07):
is that?

Jenny (24:10):
Yeah, well, you know, I mean we have to ask God that
question.
I don't know exactly, butaccording to scientists it's so
we can function Like if we hadto think how to walk every time
we walked, or to think how tospeak every time we spoke, or if
we had to think to blink oureyes or beat our heart or grow
our hair like we couldn't doanything else.
Right, okay, it's this superprocessor inside of us.

(24:32):
What I didn't used tounderstand is that it also
controlled how we think and feeland act and react automatically
.
So when someone cuts you off intraffic, how you feel, it's a
subconscious response.
You don't say that person justcut me off.
How would I like to choose howto feel about that right now,

(24:52):
right?
Or you know, my husband or mykid just said something Hmm, how
do I want to feel?
You just feel, right, it'sautomatic.
Okay, and so what if you don'tlike the automatic?
I used to have the worst temper.
I didn't want to have the worsttemper, but I just did.
And I would tell myself okay,the next time my husband says,

(25:13):
whatever it is, I'm just goingto take a deep breath.
You know they say count to 10.
Yeah Right, counting to 10 isjust holding in how I'm really
feeling.
I'm still feeling that way.
I still want to wring his neck.

Cassandra (25:26):
Yes.

Jenny (25:26):
Exactly.
But if you change thesubconscious mind, I reprogram
my subconscious mind to be openand curious.
So now, when he says somethingthat in the past would have made
me lose my mind, nowautomatically I'm like wonder
why he said that.
That's the response.

(25:47):
Okay, I wonder why he said that.
Okay, so you can change yourautomatic response.
And I think that's the greatestdiscovery of the 21st century,
because it feels so good to likebe able to grow yourself,
improve yourself, be who and howyou want to be Like.

(26:07):
You talked about being stuck.
Yeah, we don't like being stuck.
Why are we stuck?
Because we're habitual.
We think the same thought thatcreates the same feeling, that
creates the same action or lackof action.
And here we are again, the sameold us.
They say you can't teach an olddog new tricks.
Why, we're just our same way.

(26:28):
It's subconscious, it'sautomatic.
Okay, it's why people saystarting Monday, for real, this
time I'm gonna eat healthy andexercise for real.
I know I mean it this time,right.
And then wednesday, you knowsomeone brings donuts to work
and they're like shoot, how didI just eat that?
I was gonna be so good.

(26:49):
What happened?
Yeah, this mind overpowers youevery time because you lose
focus consciously, and that'swhy you're obsessed with that
mind thing right, I'm obsessedwith the subconscious mind
because I said affirmations for20 years and nothing changed.
I worked with this doctor sixsessions pain's gone.

(27:13):
Then I worked with him ongetting rid of my pain pill
addiction.
Then I worked with him onloving my husband again, Then
getting rid of my bad temper andlosing weight and getting rid
of my allergies and motionsickness and finding my purpose
and passion.
I mean, it was like a magicwand and I thought what?
Wow, how, did I not know aboutthis power.
It's right.
I'll give you an example my sonfor Mother's Day.

(27:41):
He said, mom, I got you a gift.
And I'm like, oh, that wassuper sweet.
What'd you get me?
He said I'm going to teach youhow to do something on your car.
I was like that's interesting,okay.
So he's like so, mom, I know,when you try to lock your car,
you've never really been able tofigure out how to do it without
the remote, and so you open thetrunk and you push the lock
button.
There's got to be a better way.
He's like did you know that ifyou touch the door handle,

(28:02):
there's a little line rightthere.
It locks.
You just touch it with yourfinger and your door locks.
So I'm like you're telling methat for the last four years
I've been opening my trunk tolock my car or digging through
my purse to find the key fob.
I could just touch the handle.
Is that an electric car?
Electric, it's a, it's a hybrid.

(28:23):
Okay, yeah, you know, but itwas just like wow, that's how
your mind is.
You're trying the hard way,you're trying to overpower it.
Instead, just program it tosupport you, program your
subconscious mind to support you.
I didn't know about mysubconscious mind.
I didn't know how to program it.

(28:43):
I didn't know any of thesethings.
I would just try and try andtry and fail and get frustrated
and be stuck in my same old ways.
Wow, it's a secret, and gosh,what a better life it's been.

Cassandra (28:56):
Wow, that's powerful and I can, and I can see why
they say that, um, you are aworld renowned mind change
expert.
Yeah, that's, that is amazing.
I'm gonna actually, you know, Ialways hear about the
subconscious and the consciousand, and they always say in the,

(29:17):
in the Bible said whatever manthinketh is what he is.
You know, it's a lot either howpowerful the mind is.
Um, so, and just listening toyou, I believe many of it has to
do with a lot of sickness.
Yeah, and I would.
Yeah, and listening to, I'mthinking about depression and

(29:39):
anxiety and and and I'm notsaying people, I'm not saying
that you don't need medicationfor that or anything, but it's
just like changing the narrativeand working on that and and
because we're a quick, quicksociety, we want everything
right now.
That didn't come right, then Imean, here you are 20, 30, 40

(30:02):
years old and you've learnedthese things, so you have to
unlearn them.
Unlearn them I want to talkabout, I'm thinking about I know
you've heard of Mel Robbinswith the five second rule and
you have the 17 second rule, andfor my listeners, for those

(30:24):
that are stuck, and that's whatit's all about and you talk
about the mind.
I want to use some simple, somelike real life situations.
Real life situations, forexample, there are individuals
that say I really know that thejob I have is not working for me
.
I'm just not happy, I'm justnot comfortable with it.

(30:46):
Take them through and thenwe're going to talk about your
new app.
You help them Like, let's say,that's that example.
What process would you takethem through?
For those who are really stuck,and my thing is, my mantra is

(31:07):
let's mitigate these barriersand these roadblocks.
That's preventing you fromliving your best life on your
terms.
So this individual says I'm inthis relationship.
You know, toxic, I would sayjob situation, that atmosphere.
What would you do to help themto?

Jenny (31:27):
get out of that.
Yeah, that's perfect.
So the question I always ask Icall it the golden question is
how would you rather feel?
Okay, right, so they're,they're stuck in this toxic job
environment.
Okay, so they might say.
I might rather feel like mycoworkers are kind and

(31:48):
supportive, would say okay,let's do a brain exercise that
will get your subconscious tobelieve that they are, because
what you're believing is whatyou're attracting.
And so we'll do a brain exercisethat they believe that, and
then they're going to be likeokay, so what?
Now it's just going to bebetter?

(32:09):
And the answer is yes, go towork.
You'll see, all of a sudden,that reticular activating center
of your brain will look for thegood instead of looking for the
negative.
It's like when you get a newcar.
All of a sudden you're likeeverybody has my car, but they
didn't yesterday, before Ibought this car.
What is going on?

(32:30):
Right?

Cassandra (32:30):
Your brain will look for that, so that's one option.

Jenny (32:33):
Your brain will look for that.
So that's one option, and itliterally works like a charm.
Our private clients say they're57% better after one session
with us.
Wow, so maybe have two.
Okay, in our app, they saythey're 41% better after using
our app.

(32:53):
Once, that's powerful, thesubconscious mind.
So another option is well,maybe you want to get a
different job, okay, so, so howdo you feel about that?
And they might say like, oh, Icouldn't find a job that pays as
well, or I don't know what Ilike to do, or right, they have

(33:14):
all these like reasons why theycan't.
Yeah, and so the question iswell, how would you rather feel?
Well, I'd rather feel like Ifind the perfect job in a
supportive environment that Ilove.
Okay, let's program your brainfor that.
Now you still have to takeaction.
You got to apply for the jobs,exactly right.
But if your, your life is aprintout of your subconscious

(33:37):
program, oh, I like that.
Think about that for a minute.
Your life is a printout of yoursubconscious program.
Wherever life is easy, it'sbecause your subconscious
supports that piece of your life.
Wherever it's hard, it doesn't,and you're trying to overpower
it, overpower it, overpower it.
So you've got to change asubconscious mind to support

(33:59):
what you want.
And back to the first questionis what do you want?
Because so many times we knowwhat we don't like and what we
don't want and what's hard andwhat's not working.
Let's not focus on that.
Let's focus on what do we wantand how are we going to create
that.
So, even if you didn't have mybrain exercise just flipping
that script to okay, what am Igoing to do?

(34:22):
I'll give you an example.
Last night I told my husbandthis new goal I had and he said
how long are you going to worktoward that Almost kind of like
before you give up on it, typeof thing?
And I was like I'm, I'm doingit, like I'm gonna accomplish
this goal.
And he's like I know, but forhow long are you gonna try?
I'm like no, you don'tunderstand.

(34:43):
Like it's already done, like Iknow I haven't started yet, but
like it's no, I'm gonna achievethis goal.
Um, I don't know if you've everseen the movie Gattaca, but
there's these two brothers andone's stronger, one's weaker,
and they have swimmingcompetitions and the weaker one
always wins and the stronger oneis like how do you do that?
And he says I saved nothing forthe swim back Right Like I give

(35:05):
it my all.
And so that's what happens whenyour subconscious gets on board.
It's just like this superpowerto where it's like there's no
question.
If this is going to work, likeI believe it, at a cellular
level, I'm going to make ithappen.
I'm going to take the action todo it, and it's easy to take

(35:27):
the action because mysubconscious supports it.
Where, if it doesn't, it's like.
I know I was supposed to makethose calls today but I didn't
get to it Right.
Why can't I be more disciplined?
Yeah, the subconscious programsupporting you.

Cassandra (35:43):
So don't feel bad.

Jenny (35:44):
You just need to get some support in your mind to create
the life you want.

Cassandra (35:49):
Yeah, and I've loved I heard you speaking at an event
in regards to I am.
I am going to have two clientsa month, you know, and you were
doing this exercise you know,and I was like okay, so just
keep saying that.
You know, it's just likesomeone.
I was talking to somebody theother day and it was a guy, and

(36:11):
he said he was telling thesegirls that he knows it's hard to
find a man out there.
And I was like no, it's not.
And he was like what are youtalking about?
I said it's not I said there areplenty out there.
I said, but they keep sayingthere's not, so there will not
be.
So that's the thing.
I can't find anybody.
That's no good man out there.
I'm like oh well.
And then I always say youattract who you are.

Jenny (36:34):
Yeah.

Cassandra (36:35):
What, Like you attract who you are.
You know, and it's notsomething someone told me is
what I know.

Jenny (36:43):
I've experienced that.

Cassandra (36:45):
Yeah, so that's amazing.
I want to talk about thatphenomenal app you have, and you
know what?
And I went, I was trying tofind it and I got confused.
And you know what?
And I went, I was trying tofind it and I got confused.
I looked on your website,because they have a lot of apps
that said what's the name ofyour app?
It's called.

Jenny (37:03):
Leap Transformation, leap like a frog L-E-A-P.
That's right, yeah, yeah, talkabout that.
That.
That app, yeah.
So you know, the exciting thingabout this app is it was born
in Texas, and the reason I saythat I was at a mastermind with
Oprah's man, stedman Graham, andhe said, jenny, you have to

(37:25):
find a way to get your work intoevery hand.
You know like it's so powerfuland it's so effective.
You know you're, I know you'reprivate coaching and you're
group coaching and you'retraining people in your, your
certification courses for yourwork and you're doing retreats,
but that's not every hand.
Like, how do you get this inevery hand?

(37:45):
Yeah, and I thought, gosh, I'vegot to find a way that people
can do my work easily, right,and so after that event, I
created well, I hired someone tocreate for me a website that
was like interactive coachingwith me.
So when they log in.
It would ask are you trying tofeel better, Are you trying to

(38:06):
solve a problem or achieve agoal or work on personal growth?
And then, based on theirresponse, it would pull up a
brain exercise that wouldrepattern their subconscious
mind for the goal and then itwould help them to set action
plans and track their progress.
So literally, it's me sittinghere doing the work with them,
so it's like as close to workingwith me as possible.

(38:28):
Okay, we did that for a coupleyears and it went so well that
we put it in an app, and so nowit's so easily accessible.
It's in the app store, it's inthe play store.
It's a free trial for a week andit's only $14 and 99 cents a
month to get me in your pocketwhere you can pull me out,
hopefully at least every morning, and set intention for your day

(38:50):
.
You know, if you wake upfeeling tired, switch it.
If you wake up with a kink inyour neck, switch it.
If you wake up feeling a kinkin your neck, switch it.
If you wake up feeling nervousabout a presentation coming up
at work, switch the feeling.
The feeling is caused by thethinking, right, and this is
subconscious, so you can't justconsciously switch it.
Like how do you say stop beingnervous?

(39:11):
If you're nervous, right?
Like how, right, but thesubconscious, you know I used to
be so scared to speak in public.
I mean, you could see my heartbeating through my shirt, like
my shirt was beating.

Cassandra (39:25):
Yeah, so scared.

Jenny (39:26):
Well, that didn't serve me very well, because I'm trying
to share my story and inspirepeople and if I'm trembling and
shaking and nervous and can'tthink of what to say, not very
effective.

Cassandra (39:38):
Yeah.

Jenny (39:38):
So I program my subconscious mind to be a
confident speaker.
And you hear speakers say likeyou never get rid of the nerves,
the butterflies are alwaysthere.
Well, they must not haveprogrammed their subconscious
mind because I don't have anynerves or butterflies anymore.
I sit there while they'rereading my bio.
Call me up on stage so excitedto share my message, because my

(40:00):
subconscious is now supportingme instead of sabotaging me.

Cassandra (40:05):
Right, yeah, you are, you're speaking.
You're just so calming.
You have a calming demeanor.
You know, as you draw people in, I'm like wow, look at her, she
is a superstar, wow.
And so the app would be on thecomputer is leapcom.

(40:28):
But if you go on your phone orwhatever, you're looking for
what?

Jenny (40:33):
Yeah.
So you'll go to the app storeor the Play Store, right, and
it's called Leap Transformation.
So you'll go to the app storeor the play store and it's
called Leap Transformation.
So you'll just download the appLeap Transformation and once
you get the app, you can use itin either place.
You can use it atleaptransformationcom on the web
or you can use it at LeapTransformation app on your phone
.
They're connected, they talk toeach other, so you're in the
same place.

Cassandra (40:53):
You know wherever you , wherever you're working to
each other, so you're in thesame place.
You know wherever you, whereveryou're working.
Okay, now you I had readsomething about you said, um,
how you can solve problem, like,in other words, you can.
It's because my question washow do you figure out what
program a person's in?
Yeah right, what?

(41:15):
How did tell me a little bitabout that.
That's the part I got a littleconfused about yeah, so you're
you're talking about.

Jenny (41:21):
I think what you're asking me is like, how do you
figure out what to do to changetheir brain like what they need,
whether it's a lack of beliefor a subconscious block or some
type of?

Cassandra (41:31):
belief or information is that what you're asking?
Yeah, like changing anything.
Okay, so make any listener feelbetter.
You have tools take away toachieve their goals.
Um, and then I read somethingabout you can understand what
program.
Yeah, so maybe that is it okay.

Jenny (41:52):
So here's the thing your body knows and I trademarked
this term your body knows, okay.
Why did I do that?
Because thing your body knowsand I trademark this term your
body knows Okay.
Why did I do that?
Because literally your body hasall the answers.
The reason I'm such a goodcoach is because I'm a good
muscle tester and I can muscletest what your body knows and
then I know exactly what to sayand do with you.

(42:13):
If I couldn't do that you knowI'm not a psychologist or a
therapist I wouldn't know whatto say and do with you.
If I couldn't do that you knowI'm not a psychologist or a
therapist I wouldn't know whatto say, Right.
But I can read your body signalwith a muscle test and and help
you, help yourself.
Now the app does the same thing.
And what?
How the app does it is.
It tells you to ask your heart,not your head, which of the

(42:34):
brain exercises on the screen isthe right one?
You're consciously thinking.
I have no idea.
I don't even know what this isExactly.
Your subconscious mind knowsexactly which one will help you.
It's like an energetic puzzle,and your body knows what piece
is missing and where that piececan be found, and so it's like

(42:56):
trusting the wisdom of your body.
You know, they say, if you'retaking a test, usually the first
thing you guess is right.
And then sometimes we erase it,we second guess ourself and we
do a different one, Like, oh,that first one is the right
answer.
Your body knows you have thisair of wisdom, and so that's
what we use when privatelyworking.
We use muscle testing in theapp.
We ask you to use the wisdom ofyour body to select the right

(43:20):
exercise.
Now, they're all going to work,but some of them are going to
work better than others forcertain things.
And so tap into that wisdom.
And sometimes it's super simpleyou just don't believe.
Like Henry Ford says, whetheryou think you can or whether you
think you can't, you're right.
Marie Ford says whether youthink you can or whether you
think you can't, you're right.
Right.
And so if you don't believesomething, if you don't believe

(43:40):
you're going to get that bookdone this year, you're not.
It's not happening.
Exactly If you believe it, notif you want to believe it, if
you believe it a cellularresponse oh, it's as good as
done.
Like with that goal.
I told my husband what do youmean?
When am I giving up on thisgoal?
What kind of question is that?
Like this goal is done, Ibelieve in this goal and I'm

(44:03):
going to run after it until Iachieve it Right.
Sometimes there's asubconscious block.
Sometimes, you know, life iskind of hard sometimes.

Cassandra (44:13):
Yeah, let's say that.

Jenny (44:14):
Some things in the past gets in the way of our future
and so in the app after you'vedone about 30 brain exercises.
You earn coins as you go andyou can use these coins to up
level the app to unlock morebrain exercises.
You can also trade in the coinsto join me live on Tuesdays

(44:35):
for a live group session everyweek, and so upgrade the app or
the website with the coins.
It lets you find and clearhidden blocks.
OK so maybe it's a past memorythat's getting in the way, or
maybe it's a person, or maybeit's a thought or a feeling, or
maybe it's a fear, and so theapp will help you and guide you

(45:02):
through all those things andunlock it and clear it up so
that you can move forward andget unstuck, because stuck is no
fun.

Cassandra (45:07):
Yes, yes, we don't like stuck.

Jenny (45:09):
We like forward motion.
Right, that's right, right yeah.

Cassandra (45:12):
Wow.
So in your app you have awellness and success Right Is
this part of the app therelationships, finding your
happy and pain relief andabundance.

Jenny (45:27):
Right.
There's really no limit in theapp.
It asks you are you trying tofeel better or solve a problem,
or achieve a goal or work onpersonal growth?
No matter what you put in there, it all stems from right
between your ears.
Your reality is created betweenyour ears.
So whatever it is you wantdifferent in your life, you put

(45:47):
it in the app.
It helps you put it into apositive goal statement instead
of the negative.
It does it with AI.
It's so much fun.
It's like did you mean this?
And it gives you all theseexamples.
You're like oh yeah that's whatI wanted and it takes you
through the brain work, takesyou through the action, tracks
your progress.
It's fun and easy.
And here's the thing 50 to80,000 thoughts a day we have.

(46:11):
So guess what?
You got to use it more thanonce.
The mind is like the body, bodyright, you don't get in shape,
and then be like check that offthe list.
Never have to work on my bodyagain.
Exactly I wish, but no it's notthat way and our mind is the
same, because life changes.
You know, two months ago Ididn't miss my son because he

(46:32):
was living here.
Well, now he's moved out andnow I miss him.
So I got to work on my mind forthat which I did this morning.
I miss him.
And so do I want to miss him.
Well, not so that it hurts menot to that level.
Instead, I want to be happy thathe's moving forward in his life
and doing great things.
I mean, that's the goal, likepush him out the nest right.

Cassandra (46:54):
That's right, that's right.
So what do you tell yourself inthat situation?

Jenny (47:01):
I ask myself the golden question how would you rather
feel?

Cassandra (47:05):
And.

Jenny (47:05):
I would rather feel proud of his success, happy for him,
find joy in the memories of thethings we did together, enjoy
speaking with him every you know, every week, messaging him,
focusing on that instead of it'sso quiet and lonely, I don't

(47:26):
get my hugs all day, every dayanymore, you know Right right.
But in my subconscious to focuson that?
Yeah, because at the surface,you know I'm busy, I don't
really think about it.
I was taking a bubble bath andI was thinking I miss my boy.

(47:46):
Yeah, well, how would I ratherfeel, you know.
So right there in the bubblebath, I did a brain exercise,
because I do all day, everyday,brain exercises with myself.
Anytime I think or feel or actor react in a way I don't want
to, I'm like oh, there'ssomething I can adjust in my
life to make my life happier,easier, more peaceful and calm

(48:07):
and joyful wow, jenny, that'sgreat.

Cassandra (48:11):
Thank you so much.
Yeah, you are, sounds like amiracle worker.
You know this, this, this Itell you, the mind is, it's
powerful, it really really is.
Tell my listeners we talkedabout the app, how you can

(48:33):
download the app, how else you,now, you, you do your sessions
on zoom or to you.
So I want that right.
Okay, I wanted them to be awareof that because in california,
okay, because we can do it.
Thanks for uh, um covet I knowright now.

Jenny (48:55):
We can now connect all over the world in real time
immediately.
It's so awesome.

Cassandra (48:59):
Exactly, exactly, and tell me how else can they
connect with you.

Jenny (49:04):
Yeah, so if you go to y website is jenny@ balancedyou.
org you can find all my socialmedia.
You can download some freebies,some workbooks and different
things to help you get startedon tapping into the power of
your subconscious mind andcreating your best life, getting

(49:24):
unstuck.
I mean, life's too short to bestuck.
There's so many great things todo and be and achieve and
accomplish and enjoy, so it'sall possible if you believe.
How do you believe you get thesubconscious on board?

Cassandra (49:40):
and then you're unstoppable, right, excellent,
excellent.
Well, I want to thank you, um,for your wisdom.
Um, I hope your back is a lotbetter.

Jenny (49:51):
You feel totally better.
I'm great yeah right.

Cassandra (49:56):
You're a great and that's what I see had to happen
for you to get to where you are,how you can just bless so many
people, and I again, I applaudyou for your work.
And as I tell my listeners, Isay bye for now, god bless, and
you guys, you listen to thispodcast over and over again, if

(50:18):
that's what you need, and I alsoknow that Jenny shares some
nuggets.
I'm looking at them as diamonds.
I mean to really transform yourlife.
I think this piece, thismodality, is miraculous.
Modality is miraculous and Iapplaud you for doing it and

(50:43):
thank you so much and bye fornow and, as I say, god bless you
.
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