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October 7, 2025 52 mins

Our milestone episode features a conversation with author, professor and thought leader on Leadership and Human Resources Development, Dr. Rob Lion. Dr. Lion shares the story of his journey to education and entrepreneurship, as well as his thoughts on effective engagement of direct reports and new hires. Dr. Lions bio is below.

Dr. Rob Lion (pronounced“Lee-own”) is a professor of human resource development at Idaho State University and co-founder of Black River Performance Management. With over 20 years of experience in leadership, organizational development, and performanceimprovement, Rob is recognized for challenging conventional wisdom with a human-centered, yet often contrarian, approach to developing stronger leaders and healthier organizations.

Drawing on workplace psychology and behavioral science, he simplifies leadership complexities and deliverspractical, evidence-based strategies that drive meaningful results. Rob has appeared on more than 40 podcasts, been featured in TD Magazine for his work on humanistic leadership, and authored numerous academic publications that examine a wide array of niche and novel perspectives—ranging from whether athletes make better hires, to how pronoun use shapes workplace behaviors, to the role ofemotion regulation in motivation. His latest book, The Science of Strategy and Soul (www.blackriverpm.com/ebook), showcases his originalleadership models and unconventional practices that challenge traditional leadership development playbooks.

Celebrated for revolutionizing leadership and organizational culture, Rob’s work equips leaders with a comprehensive lens and suite of approaches designed not just to adapt tochange, but to rethink the very assumptions that define how organizations thrive.

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