THE PODCAST ON HAUNTED HILL EPISODE 151 – CHILD’S PLAY 3 AND BRIDE OF CHUCKY - Legion Podcasts

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The podcast on Haunted Hill will contain spoilers and swearing.

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I am the devil. And I am here to do the devil's work.
Please, help us, Michael. Be one of us.
Come on, dude.
I didn't tell you my name. Hang up. I didn't tell you my name.

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Come on. It is time to keep your appointment.
Hello and welcome to the podcast on Haunted Hill Episode 151.

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I am Gav. That's an incredible echo effect you're doing. And I am Dan.
Brilliant. Can you pan it?
Stop it. You're giving listeners headaches and we're only 30 seconds in to the episode.
The migraine on Haunted Hill. Welcome, everybody. Hope you're all safe in the world.

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Everything is happy. You're Dandy. If your name is Mandy, you're Dandy.
If your name is Dan, then you're Dandy too.
That's true. How are you?
I'm very well, my friend. How are you?
Very good, very good. Have you been doing much? We recorded fairly recently, so we don't have that much to...

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No, no. Life's been very, very busy. I've got a few things in the pipeline which might talk about it in a few months' time.
Yeah, no. Just very busy. My wife's got some extra work now. She's been promoted, so she's super busy.
So work, work, work, children, children, children. And when I can, I try and fit in the odd horror film.

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And then occasionally I talk to my bearded friend Gavin. Do you know him?
It's recent. Yeah, I look at him in the mirror and we talk to each other.
Recently, yeah, we did an episode and I think the next episode isn't too far off in the yonder either. Are you well in the world though? You're happy? You're good?
Happy chapies, happy chapies. This, everybody. This is episode 151 and this is, as you know, it's our 10th year of podcasting.

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Or if you don't know, I'm telling you now. And what we're doing for our 10th year is we are filling in the blanks with any franchises that we want to come back to
and try and finish off as well if we can. Because there's quite a few franchises we've started or come back to
and we're still working through some of the bigger ones. So as well as director specials for this 10th year, we're also doing franchise revisits.

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So a year or two ago, we started the Chucky franchise with the first two Child's Play films.
So there you go. We are covering, no surprise, Child's Play 3 from 1991 and the follow-up seven years later.
Is it seven years? Wow.
97 years, 98, yeah. Bride of Chucky, Chucky gets lucky. Doll sex, weird. Last time we had Bob Horsekins in the shower.

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Yeah, just going to soak myself up.
Suck yourself up a little bit longer than it should be. And then this time Chucky's going to be Chucky the F*cky, basically.
Absolutely, Chucky. I am Chuck. He likes to f*ck.
What I will say about that scene is that I do think that they took inspiration for that when they made Team America and then they thought

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rather than just show shadows of dolls, f*ckin', let's actually show them because obviously in Team America it goes crazy.
I've not seen it.
Oh, it's absolutely crazy sex scenes in there between puppets.
I think I've seen the sex scene. Like someone's like, "You've got to watch that though!"
I went, "Okay, weird."
But yeah, we're covering basically Charles' play three and four this episode.

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So we'll be talking all about Brad Derriff, Jennifer Tilley, who gives me the willy, and whatever else we think of really.
I don't mean she gives me the willies and she creeps me out as in she's a rather beautiful lady.
Other than that guy, yeah.
I was literally like, "It is a shovel. Just going to let you dig yourself further and further into this Jennifer Tilley hole you're slipping into."

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Jennifer Tilley hole. Wowie.
I shouldn't have said that, should I? Any key words to do with sex?
Oh my God, I've got to really think before I speak then.
I will not say this evening just in case you are aroused.
And the audience don't want to know about your audible arousal.
Well, let's talk briefly on a little tangent about your other podcast that you do with your beautiful Sarah, which is The High Strangers.

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Your last episode was all about caving gone wrong.
And oh my God, I had a field day listening to that because you were talking about holes, you were talking about caving, you were talking about spelunking.
Now, these are all words when used normally are fine, but one of them was called the gaping gill.
Yeah, it's just brilliant stuff.

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It was as soon as before we started going, and it's like, "This episode is just going to be this, isn't it?"
Deep and shafts and all this kind of stuff. It was fantastic.
So many key or sexual keywords into caving.
If you're interested to check it out on High Strangers Podcast, it's a terrifying thing. Would you go down a cave?
No, absolutely not. And I'll tell you why.
I'm a little bit claustrophobic, not on a lift or something, but if I suddenly can't move my arms, let's say,

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if I'm tied up.
And some of those are just like using their fingers just to sort of push themselves slowly along like a slug.
But what cemented it for me was watching the descent because I think Christ, you know, if you died down there, you know, it's not just the fact that you're stuck down there.
It's just a slight injury.
It's like injury and you can be fucked.
Really good. Just one bone in your main part of your leg or something could just take you out.

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You're stuck.
I'm not really an extreme sportsman, Gavin. In fact, I'm not really a sportsman. Anything really.
No, I'm not. But nowadays, I'm an Olympic sportsman, aren't I? Because I go skateboarding.
Yeah, indeed. It's an Olympic sport.
Which is hilarious. I've been doing an Olympic sport.
Do you know I've been doing an Olympic sport in my past time since I was, what, 14, 13?

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I mean, I don't know if any of the sports I've ever played have been an Olympic sport.
For 30 years?
I used to play basketball a lot. I used to play badminton a lot. I think those might be Olympic.
I want to try...
Oh, no, I'm thinking squash. I was talking about that earlier today.
I fancy hiring out of Squash Court and being like Michael Douglas in Wall Street.

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And just being a yuppie on the old Squash Court. That's what I fancy doing.
The other sport, the only sport I really stuck at was kickboxing, which, you know, as you know,
I got to black belt level and quit, basically.
Well, it was a combination of...
Mike Drop, two legit to quit.
It was a combination of a few things, really.

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I was leading up to my wedding, so I wasn't able to keep going as often as I wanted at that point.
I intended to carry on full time, but then, not long after, well, just before the wedding,
obviously my mum passed away, then the following year, the Covid thing happened,
and then my kickboxing school closed down during Covid.

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So that's my excuse.
Look, I got to black belt. What the fuck more do you want? Come on.
I'm not arguing or anything. I don't have to go defensive on me.
I know. I'm just listening to you today.
I thought I had a ghost pooing next door the other night.
I was just like, what the hell? The bathroom light came on, and the toilet went,

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and I was just about to get bed, and I borrowed my dog, my beans, he came to hang out with me because I missed him,
so me and him in bed, and we were about to go to sleep.
And I just said the light came on, light went off, and the toilet flushed.
So confusing next door, the next day, did nothing or anything.
Then day after, I said to the guys in the shop, "What's... is someone staying upstairs?"
Because the next door to me now is an Airbnb.

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So I'm going to have random people just going to be able to listen to me recording the podcast, presumably.
But I didn't know this at the time.
So I was just like, man, what a ghost like, just do the spirit of a ghost.
Just be like, I need a shit.
And it goes in, turns the light on, and flushes the toilet, and it turns the light off again.

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But like an energy thing, do you know what I mean?
I thought you meant your own bathroom light had come on, because I would literally shit myself
if my bathroom light came on and I had to flush.
I'd either think one of the children had decided to skip potty training
and move straight to using the toilet in the middle of the night,
and also able to open a stair gate and unlock their bedroom door.

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Children at night time, I remember waking up in the middle of the night,
just waking up in a Charlie formerly known as Jasmine,
would have been Jasmine at the time, bent over the bed staring at me,
and just, "What the fuck are you doing?"
I remember the first time Jack scared me, because Edith hasn't really done it,

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but when they were both in our room in their cots, when they were very small,
I woke up in the middle of the night, and I thought, something feels weird.
And I looked down in the cot, and Jack was sat up.
He was only about, I don't know, six, seven, eight months, and he was sat up just looking up at me.
And he just looked like a little Victorian doll, because he was so small,
and I was like, "What the fuck?"
And I just looked at him, and he just obviously couldn't say anything.

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Speaking of demonic children, do you know the new Omen movies out in April?
Yes, I do, yeah, the first Omen.
OK, I was looking up, matey, the Halloween movies, Gordon Green, David?
David Gordon Green, yeah.
I've looked at what he's up to now, what we're going to be doing.
There's like nothing's horror, anything which was horror.

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Tumbleweeds, completely gone.
Well, people won't go near him now, because, you know, he just wants to...
It sounded like a good idea at the time, but, no, that's not even good.
So, this Omen movie's coming out, it's like, OK, "Wasting Sleep"?
Yeah, I'm still going to check out this Exorcist movie, which has been in gone in the cinemas.
I've not heard good things about it, but I'll check it out.

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You know what is good, which is coming, which is Ghosty, this month?
What's that?
New Ghostbusters movie, and I'm going to check it out in the new cinema in Farnham.
It looks good.
I've seen the newest and last trailer, which doesn't really show much more,
but everybody's in it, but I've watched somebody theorise,

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because they only show the shoulder of somebody in some of the shots.
And, apparently, this could be Rick Moranis' big comeback.
There is people are talking about him being in it, because they've kept
still going to weaver out of the trailers, and she's in it.
But, apparently, all the original cast have a much bigger role in this one.
That's so cool, innit?
If Rick Moranis is back, man, I'm fucking all over it.

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I think the thing was, like, one of the main components is, obviously,
our World of the Strange introductionist.
And he was a bit grumpy at times, and just did stuff here and there.
But, I think, possibly, during that last movie, you probably didn't watch it,
and went, you know what, kind of enjoyed it.

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It was I've Right My Son, you know.
It was cathartic for all of the original cast, and it was a good chance for them
to honour and say goodbye to Harold Sprink.
And second one, it might be like, yeah, come on, I'm really into it, sort of thing,
because I know, like, the first Ghostbusters, they went, oh, no, it's original Ghostbusters.
They didn't even know if Bill Murray was going to turn up,
and just, well, Monday morning at 8 o'clock, he's just there.

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But they had no idea if he would turn up or not.
It was like that, so it's just, you know.
But, good. I'm looking forward to it.
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to that this year as well.
There's a good few movies coming out this year that I'm looking forward to.
Deadpool 3, as a Marvel fan, I'm looking forward to that as well.
Yeah, I know. I was going to say, first one, I saw once, it was kind of fun.
And I'm looking forward to the Nosferatu movie.

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Edgar's Nosferatu movie as well.
There's a couple of horror movies actually coming out.
There's a few little bits and bobs actually coming out.
We'll get to them as they come, I think.
Talking of films then, and stuff we've been watching, or want to watch.
I've only got one film I wanted to talk about that I've watched in between our last session of recording.
What about you? Is there anything you've been watching, some London Gangster films?

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It's just after the episode, I thought, "Actually, you know what? I'm going to do some more Guy Ritchie stuff."
I did Snatch and really, really enjoyed Don Snatch.
Yeah, I can't put away your word in that, because Snatch is a British.
The movie Snatch?
Garretty, yes, thank you.
I really enjoyed watching.
Watched a little bit of a making of that.

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Then I did a few more Guy Ritchie movies as well, because I just thought, "Fuck it, I'm going to do it."
Watched Aladdin, obviously.
Well, I watched Operation Fortune again, and again, no, it's not a good movie.
It's frustratingly, starts off good with, "This is the plan. I need you guys as a team, Jason Statham."

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"This is your mission, and this is what you've got to do."
And it's quite fun.
I still haven't seen it.
My brain stops really caring, and if you'd have turned off a bit of a power card, wouldn't I?
I still haven't seen it.
Before you carry on telling us what you've watched, I think for me, Richie is best when it's a smaller cast.

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I know there's a big cast in Snatch.
What I mean is, it's got to fill a little bit less budget.
I don't know, because Gentleman's a good movie, and that would have been a big budget.
Oh, of course. That's incredible.
That's his best movies.
I did Rock 'n' Roll as well, and that was just slow and boring, and I've watched it before.
One of the main guys is an old fella, and this is just slow and boring, and not interesting, really, at all.

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I've seen that one twice. The second time I watched it, I thought, "This isn't that good, actually."
In fact, the main guy in it, who was supposed to be a dude like that...
Gerald Butler.
No, no, the actual, like, rock star.
Oh, yeah. The dude from Dead Man's Shoes, the younger brother.
Yeah, that's right. Toby...
Sanker brother.
No, this is not a good movie, so unfortunately, I kind of wasted my time watching those again.

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The Gentleman is fantastic, and I have seen that a few times.
Fun enough, I was kind of just watching the rest of it just before we got jumped on here.
I think Colin Farrell is incredible in it.
Yeah, no, he's great. I was just watching that.
Everyone in that movie is really good.
And Guy Ritchie wrote it, and these other mateys came on and have written a couple of his newer movies, and they're not that good.

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Well, we'll see what he does.
Maybe when he was with Madonna, he just wasn't as inspired, but there we go.
Well, in that interview with Snatch, he actually said, he went back and watched Snatch again, and he said,
"I really wish, because I would have done a third one just there and then,"
because he said everything from Snatch was the leftover ideas from Lockstock.

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And he crawled through Snatch, and he said, "I had some more ideas. I wanted to do a third one,"
and it'd been like a trilogy of those movies.
But he was getting Madonna doing rude things to him, and he's just probably going,
"I'm lapsing in luxury and being big and popular and wealthy."
He's a material girl.
He's just a material girl.

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The only movie I've watched, the only film I've watched, was a brand new one to me.
It's actually a year and a half old now.
It came out in 2022, and everyone was talking about it at the time.
It's now on Disney+ or Hulu, and it's called Fresh.
Is this the Cannibal one?

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Yes, yes.
I don't really like Cannibal movies. I've avoided.
It's a really well-produced...
I like the name, though.
...really well-acted film.
And it's very funny, especially, I think, if you're a woman.
It's even funny, because it really looks at the woman's perspective in the dating world
and how much of a dick a bloke can be.

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But it doesn't lean into that too much.
It's accessible for both men and women, I would think.
But my only problem with it was it was incredibly predictable,
and I didn't really know about the cannibal side of it.
I guessed it might be something to do with that from the synopsis.
I'm sorry to spoil this, if anybody's...

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I'm not going to spoil it any further than that.
There is some cannibalism stuff in it.
But actually, it's not cannibalism.
There is cannibalism, but it's not just cannibalism.
There's another reason that people are having bits cut off them.
But the two main actors in it are fantastic.
It's the Winter Soldier, Sebastian Stan.
And I've never really seen him as, like, a bad guy before.
He's normally a Marvel hero or a goodie in whatever he's in.

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He played Tommy Lee in the "Pam and Tommy" movie.
And Daisy Edgar Jones, she's phenomenal in it.
And it's a really good, fun cast.
And I'd say I'd recommend it, definitely.
My only problem with it is I probably...
This is probably due to me having watched so many bloody films like you
and a lot of our listeners.
You've seen kind of a lot of it before,

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and you can kind of predict sometimes where things are going.
And I could really see where this was going.
But I did still enjoy it.
This is one of the troubles being a film lover.
You start learning watching films when you're young.
That's amazing. What's this like?
It's hard to go, well, we didn't have the internet,
so we would just do ourselves down the video shop.
"Oh, that guy, I like him in movies."
And then you'd watch the movie and go, "Oh, why is this movie quite good?"

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"Oh, it's a director."
"Oh, okay, what else did it..."
"Oh, he did this one, didn't he?"
Just down by the video shop.
He might have had a film, God, or whatever.
But regardless of that,
regardless of how I initiated into films,
like kids nowadays initiate films,
it's that thing, how much you love films.
So you want to watch more and more, more.
I want to listen to a podcast like this talking about movies,
because I love movies more and more.

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And you want that.
And it's that thing where you want it so much
that, unfortunately, you're like cannibalism,
eating yourself almost,
because you're eating yourself out of choice.
And then it gets to the point where you know what's going to happen.
And I watch a movie with one of my kids,
and we've never seen a horror movie and been watching it.
And they were like, "How do you know this is going to happen?"
Fucking just knows what's going to happen.

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It's rare that you can be surprised these days.
But it's good to be surprised.
But you know, I can take that element out for fresh,
and I can still recommend it and say it's a well-crafted, fun film.
Really, it feels almost like the title.
It feels very fresh and new.
And I think if you haven't seen a lot of that sort of film,

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you don't know whether there's a couple of twists in it.
The thing is, there's one twist in it,
but there's actually secretly, there's about three or four twists in it.
But I kind of guessed almost all of them.
It's a bit of a shame, really.
So although the average audience member would be like,
"Oh my God, that second and third twist, I never saw that come in."
I'm sat at the light, right?
Yep.
But it doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it.

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So that's all I'll say.
I did enjoy Fresh 2022.
I would recommend it.
It's on Disney Plus or Hulu.
There we go.
That's the only thing I've really watched, really.
It's worth watching.
Worth mentioning.
Worth mentioning, even.
Your words, right?
You fucking idiot.
Get your words out, you mafia.
It's not locked stock all over again, is it?
I did enjoy that episode.

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That came out as a long one.
Anyway, this intro is quicker than the others.
We just get straight onto it and stop boring you lot.
Yeah, that's it from us.
So let's go into a trailer for 1991's Child's Play 3.
That's not my intro music for me.
Amazing.
Trailer.

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Left, left, left, right, left.
Welcome to Hell on Earth.
You are without a doubt the most pathetic thing I have ever seen.
Strict discipline.
Does this look like a gun to you, Barkley?
It's a rifle.
Next.
Rigid dress codes.

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Pesto, you're a ball.
Get those weapons in the air.
I want to see them high.
And grueling drills.
It couldn't possibly get any worse.
Wrong again, Wimp.
Chucky's back.
A few years have passed.
No, you're dead.

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We killed you.
I'm new and improved.
At Kent, we take bedwetters and turn them into men.
Andy, how you've grown.
And this time...
I really got to get out of this body.
He's looking for a new recruit.
I got some fresh meat lined up and I'm not going to let you spoil it.

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No, just think.
Chucky's going to be broke.
Tyler!
Child's Play 3.
Look who's stalking.
A haircut ain't regulation, soldier.
Regulate this.

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And we're back for our first review of this episode.
Child's Play 3 from 1991.
Chucky returns for revenge against Andy, the young boy who defeated him.
And is now a teenager living in a military academy.

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Bad wording there, they missed that word so I added it in.
Directed by Jack Bender, who did a lot and does a lot of TV stuff.
Nothing really hugely notable.
Written again by Don Mancini, who wrote the original Child's Play film.
And was pressured into writing this, starting to write this film,
before the second film was even out.

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Oh, right, it shows.
Starring Justin Wallin as Andy Barkley, another TV face
that a lot of people will know.
What else did he do?
I think he was in Deep Space Nine or Star Trek or something.
You'd know him if you saw him.
As a teenage Andy.

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And obviously Brad Doriff back as the voice of Charles Lee Ray,
aka Chucky.
You've got to have Brad's voice really, haven't you?
He really makes, you know, he's like...
He's like Robert England.
Yeah, Robert England's got to be really, you know.
You can see their faces, both of those two.
The voices really make these characters.
So yeah, this is Charles Play 3.

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So this is probably, I think this is the first child.
No, this is the first child's play film I saw.
And because of that, on the table already,
this is my favourite of the franchise, really.
The earlier part of the franchise for sure.
There are some good entries later in the franchise as well.
But this is my favourite of the sort of earlier ones.

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I found it quite, at the time, quite shocking.
Still do some parts of it now,
and we'll get into that as we review it.
I think the practical effects are still fantastic.
You know, and they do remain that way.
They start using CGI in the later ones.
But in this one, and certainly the next one,
we'll be talking about a variety of Chucky.
You know, it's all animatronics and stuff like that.

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And yeah, and this is where Charles Chucky
starts to get a little bit funny in this one.
It's not really until the next movie
that it takes a Jason Six turn, is it,
and becomes a full-on comedy.
This one is still a bit of a horror movie
with a couple of comedy elements in it.
Yeah, so that's me.

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The first time I saw it, I can tell you,
was at school.
And the reason I know it had an impact on me
is because I wrote an English essay on it.
Because at the time,
and we'll get into this potentially a little bit more
as we talk, at the time, the film,
they tried to ban Charles B. Three in the United Kingdom because...

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No, they did ban it, didn't they?
They didn't know.
Oh, they didn't, OK.
They tried to ban it, and a lot of shops
and video rental places removed it from their shelves.
But it was never officially banned.
The Sun newspaper plastered it all over their front page
because it was linked to the sad and tragic death and murder
of a young boy called James Bulger,

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or Jamie Bulger by two other boys
only a couple of years older than him.
And they tortured and killed this kid.
I'm not going to get into the details.
If you can go and read about it if you want.
That's horrible.
Essentially, those boys had never even seen Charles Play Three.
All that had happened is that one of their dads had rented it
at some point because obviously they check all your records

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when you're a kid, if you've killed a kid and you're a kid.
So they checked, you know, the video.
One of the dads had a huge video collection of horror movies.
But these two boys who did it, who did the murder,
they'd never even, they didn't even like horror films,
and they'd certainly never seen Charles Play Three.
So it was all a publicity thing,
but it did launch a huge censorship discussion

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in the United Kingdom.
So I wrote this essay on it.
So I was going to say very quickly, I won't interrupt again.
But it's like, you can see because Chuck is like a little kid
killing kids, I suppose.
That's how they looked at it at that moment in time.
And if that movie is coming out, it'd been easy to just go for them.
I'm not saying it's correct to go like why you can see how they did it.

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Yeah, totally.
And, you know, and stupid tabloid newspaper
is probably who hadn't even seen the film,
probably didn't understand that it was a...
They never actually watched these things.
Oh, you heard of that movie.
Terrible band, that movie.
I mean, it's about a voodoo...
A killer uses voodoo to transfer a soul into a doll.

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You know, it's nothing really to do with child murder
or anything like that.
And we do still have the BBFC and et cetera
and the White Rays in America, I can't remember.
And censorship stuff.
We do still have it in countries, but with the internet
and being able to like dispute things yourself
and eBay and stuff like that.
It's the Wild West really, isn't it?

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Yeah.
So my essay was about the increase in video censorship,
which this movie kind of started really in '92 probably.
It made a beacon.
It made it put a light out there sort of thing.
It took half hours to go.
Oh, what else could we look at?
So I wrote this huge sprawling essay about Child's Play 3 censorship.

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I included the Power Rangers because, and bear with me here,
because at the time they were on Saturday morning TV,
they had Mr. Motivator, who was a lycra-clad exercise guru,
introducing the Power Rangers, but really hammering this message.
You mustn't copy them, kids.
You mustn't do ninja moves on each other.
And then there was also some stuff to do with ITV

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and the BBC were heavily censoring late night action films,
as we know, and even not just cutting out the language.
They were cutting out the violence and the sex.
So for some reason, like 13-year-old Dan really took a disliking to all of that.
And I wrote this essay, which I was very proud to say.
I got a B4 gov, and I wish I still had that essay.
Well done.

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But I remember that was one of my highest grades in English.
I was never a very good student.
But I remember getting a B for that because I was so passionate about it.
So that's how I know this impacted me.
But do you remember the first time you saw it?
No, no, I don't.
It probably was college sort of time or something, maybe.
Yeah.
Yeah, probably would have been, yeah.

(28:44):
It didn't really leave a mark for me.
We're rewatching it now, 2024.
I didn't really enjoy it that much, to be honest with you.
I hate to be your negative to your positive.
But I thought Chuckie's face at times looked like he was stuck smelling the fart in the air.
I just didn't like the way the doll looked and stuff.

(29:06):
And I really thoroughly enjoyed, though, the Bride of Chuckie,
because I loved the way that it went from there and goes forward there.
That, for me, is the turn.
I did find it fun as a whole.
There's no humour whatsoever in this, really.
Bride of Chuckie is like the Jason Six,
where it finds its feet and it knows it's a franchise,

(29:29):
and it can be funny and play with that and be a bit self-referential.
This was the last of Chuckie being a bit of a more serious...
I imagine if we were to go into it, and I didn't really do it,
but if we were to look at the movies two or three years just before that Bride of Chuckie came out,
we'd probably see like, oh, there's like, the screams away.

(29:50):
What year was Bride of Chuckie?
'98.
Yeah, there we go.
Scream would come out as '96.
So, giving that whole different look on film, on things,
and then being like, oh, let me just talk about true crime,
murders and stuff like that, and all that sort of thing.
I thought I really enjoyed that film.

(30:11):
It's more pop, I suppose.
You can tell it's of the Scream era, because it's quite meta as well.
I would say this film is kind of coming from the '80s in a bit,
I feel a field of the '80s still, but I just don't feel it doesn't translate for myself now and 2024.
That's what I'm saying.
That's fair.

(30:32):
I hate to be, you know, I love you, Dan.
No, that's fine, but for me, obviously, it was the first one I saw.
And I just really, I really dig this one, because...
Yeah, of course.
Because he's a bit older in it, Andy's a little bit older in it,
and there's a little bit more at stake.
It's funny, like Toy Story with Andy.
Andy's a Toy Story, isn't it?
I only thought that while I was watching that, and I was like, "He's called Andy!"

(30:55):
Oh my God, I'm sure every person has thought of this since Toy Story came out, you know?
What I like about this one, though, is because everyone in it is more of a teenager,
you know that kids aren't really going to get killed off in horror films very often,
whereas in this one, because they're teenagers at a military academy,
the first time you see this, you're thinking, "Well, some of these guys could die,"

(31:18):
but Lucky does have a fucking good go at killing quite a lot of people off in this one as well.
But yeah, let's get into it then.
It was written by Don Mancini, who invented the Toy Story character and wrote the screenplay,
and goes on to direct the last two or three movies, actually, as well,
from the franchise, which we'll get to whenever we get to them.
Weirdly enough, and this is going to apply for the other one as well.

(31:41):
And this is a really odd thing, Dan.
Sarah and I did both these movies, but remotely,
so we just had our phones on video call and watched the films and synced up.
But she was watching different formats to me each time.
Interesting.
So, first time, I'm watching DVD of three.
She's watching it online.

(32:03):
You've got the same copy of DVD that I've got.
Yeah, watch it online.
And the DVD was slower.
No, sorry, Sarah's copy was slower.
Yeah, you do find that sometimes with streams or with reps or with online.
Sometimes there was a small delay.
It was about three or four minutes.

(32:25):
And her copy, her online copy, was the IMDB time.
Next time round, we did it again.
She had DVD.
I was online, and it was flipped again, and it was the exact same thing by about three or four minutes.
So we had to keep playing, pause, play.
Do you remember that happening?
You and I watched Tango and Cash together remotely,

(32:49):
and we were watching the same version of the film,
but for some reason, I was always a little bit ahead of you,
and we kept having to do it.
I was like, how am I ahead of you?
I'm not speeding it up or anything.
It's just weird how...
There must be, if anybody knows, please listen as if you know the reason for that.
There's obviously a technical reason for it.
Well, it's just both DVDs and both accounts, which were the slower ones.

(33:13):
Maybe things just run a bit slower?
I don't know.
Who knows?
Let's get into the story.
It was frustrating.
We've covered Charles to play one and two.
We know that Andy is the protagonist, young Andy Barkley.
And we know that Charles Lee Ray is a serial killer who put his soul into a doll,
put your soul into the boy's hole.
It definitely is that, isn't it, in this...

(33:34):
You've got to say, this is kind of like the Halloween movies.
The Halloween movies have got all those little bits so you can watch these ones.
And if you don't like those, you can check out these ones.
Don't like those ones.
Check out Rob Zombie's.
Don't like that?
There's some new ones.
And this is like Charles, but I think you could do one, two, and three as a thing.
Then start with four.

(33:55):
It's like the whole new style.
Yeah, because four then leads, obviously, into the seat of Chuck E.
But then the last couple with the coat and the curse and...
Yeah, I'm looking forward to the next follow-on.
With Red Man.
Oh, God.
I don't mind some rappers as actors.
Meph-man's okay in that.

(34:17):
But Red Man and...
And that annoying doll.
S Club Seven.
Yeah, the little doll.
S Club Seven.
Anna is in it from S Club Seven, her and Red Man.
That's a British pop group, isn't it?
It is indeed, yeah.
It is indeed.
Well, how weird that's going to be for a movie to review.
So let's get into this.
So we start off with the old Good Guy factories.

(34:41):
So the Good Guy's is the make of dolls.
Obviously a play on the Garbage Bell kids.
They've gone back to the Good Guy's factory.
Because at the end of the last movie, Chuck E.
was melted down and he died, we think.
Well, he didn't because there's a whole bunch of sequels.
And they find the melted Chuck E.
It's only that though, isn't it?
All these movies.

(35:03):
I love it.
You know what's coming, don't you?
It's the classic.
It's like, he's not dead.
As a kid, even as a kid,
watch your father do it for a team.
Get the end.
He ain't dead.
He's not dead, is he?
Whenever they call a movie,
you know, the final chapter or the end,
you know that that just means it's going to be
an even bigger thing when he comes back.
You know, like Friday the 13th, part four,
the final chapter.
It's not.

(35:24):
I know.
It's fucking not.
Stop, stop trying to tease us.
It's like, oh, how do they think that?
Oh, Harold.
Oh, how are they going to kill him this time, do you think?
Because they say they're going to kill him.
Freddie's dead, the final nightmare.
And then she's like, Harold, it's the final nightmare,
the last one.

(35:45):
And then two years later.
Oh, Mord, shut up.
I'm having a poop.
They've made a seventh one.
Can't believe it.
They killed him off.
Are they going to do it?
We'll have to go watch it.
Who are Harold and her bloke?
Harold and Mord, don't know.
But we can make a movie about him.
You and me play Harold and Mord.
Love it.
So, yeah, they're cleaning up the good guys factory.
They find the melted chucky.

(36:06):
And this is just the nice little credits sort of,
it's going on while the credits roll.
And essentially what they do is they pick up the melted chucky
and they melt it down.
But blood is coming out of him because, you know,
he's got a human soul in him, which means he does bleed.
He can be injured, et cetera, even though he's made of plastic.
And they create a new doll because, you know,

(36:28):
we cut to a, well, then the doll screams and that's the end.
And that's because we cut to a board meeting.
So this big toy company having tough times, you know,
he man's not selling well or whatever is going on.
And they say, look, should we bring back the good guys doll?
And they talk about the controversy.
Oh, no, because that kid and the kids.

(36:49):
That is pre-internet.
You wouldn't be able to do that on the internet.
You'd be down in seconds.
Yeah, no way.
But they decide, you know, we're going to create,
we're going to redo the good guys dolls
because they were always our best seller.
And we've had a bit of that press over the years
because of this, like these murders that happened.
But come on, a doll can't really kill someone.

(37:11):
Well, at this point here, though,
they could have brought a chucky out with a little run DMC costume on it.
And that would have been like it's new branding.
Like Teddy Ruckspin, but he raps instead.
Yeah.
And a little leather bull hat and little tracksuit,
Adidas and shit.
And instead of it's tricky, instead of it's tricky,
he's like, it's chucky, chucky, chucky, chucky, chucky.

(37:34):
Well, they talk about Andy, they talk about Charles Lee Ray.
And it's kind of a bit of exposition from the last two movies.
Somebody asked, why would we put good guys back on the market?
And eventually they settle on the boss says, fuck it, we'll do it.
We'll get them back.
Mr. Sullivan says, let's do it.
And as the boardroom starts clearing out,

(37:55):
they go, oh, we've got a surprise for you, Mr. Sullivan.
We've actually made the first, you know, good guy doll.
And they give it to him as a gift.
Little do they know that that is obviously got the chucky blood in it.
That is Charles Lee Ray, that is chucky.
And this is where things kick off, really.
Yeah, he's left alone, isn't he?

(38:16):
He's chilling, he's kicking back.
He's a bit of an asshole, but yeah, he's playing, you know.
He's jerking off to the newspaper because it was pre-internet.
You know what these guys are like?
This is like the Bill Murray in Scrooge type character.
He's got a giant office with a golf putting course in it.
Whiskey, a full bar, cigars, TVs.
And, you know, he says to all of his cronies,

(38:39):
leave me alone now, I'm here.
And he's got the good guy doll in there, you know.
And as the camera pans around, we see that the box is empty.
What could that mean? It means Chucky is alive.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
And we do get nice little POVs of something small running around.
You know, the same things that we've seen before, but it's all good.

(39:00):
And there's a bit of a, there is a blueprint to the Chucky movies.
And this film certainly follows those.
The lights go out and he grabs his putter.
And we see the little feet running behind him.
Because some good, some good use of, I guess they, they're using little,

(39:22):
like little persons from some shots or children.
And sometimes it's obviously animatronics.
There's a really good shot in the next movie where there's an overhead shot.
Yeah.
And that looks so good because the perspective is so forced.
It really does look like two dolls are fighting,
but it's obviously just two actors in costume.
So they do some good stuff in all of these movies.

(39:44):
The remote control is vanished and he wants to turn the channel over.
And you see, he reaches underneath the sofa and he's, what's under there?
What's under there?
And this is where Chucky starts.
Because Chucky is an evil son of a bitch and he doesn't just want to kill you.
He likes to play with you first.
So he rolls the marbles on the floor.
So he slips on them and then he turns on all the toys.

(40:06):
There's like a remote control helicopter flying at him.
And all the other good guys start talking.
So there's a few other good guys in the office.
Hi, I'm Robbie.
I'm your friend to the end.
Hi.
Yeah.
And it's like, what the fuck is going on?
And he's freaking out.
And then all of a sudden...
I love, by the way, his massive train set.
Yeah, he's got a big old train set.
Suspended one.
Suspended train set are going around the office.

(40:28):
Fuck no.
Gav, if you become the chairman of a giant toy company,
you can have whatever you want.
I'm going to have it and it's going to have a dildo in it.
Just going around in the carriage.
Going around, around, around, going thawing, bouncing off shit.
Amazing.
Absolutely amazing.
Well, sadly, Chuckie grabs the putter and smashes him in the face
and says, "Don't fuck with the Chuck."

(40:51):
One of many sort of...
Classic lines.
Classic lines.
He then throws some darts into the guy's back.
I've put it on mix tapes.
DJ Chuckie still.
Of course, of course.
He strangles him with a yo-yo.
And then there's a lot of good lines in this.
He then says, "Deaf then like a good strangulation
to get the strangulation going."
Very, very much channels Jack Nicholson, I feel.

(41:14):
It's the kind of stuff you can imagine Jack Nicholson saying
if he was a doll.
And then he grabs his computer.
And even though there's no internet in 1991...
There is a point where he sounds and looks actually like
Jack Nicholson at one point.
It's really odd.
I was thinking, it's like, "Fucking hell, it's like Jack Nicholson."
I was like, "Fucking is."
He is, isn't he?
He looks up somehow without the internet.

(41:36):
He looks up Andy Barkley on this dead guy's computer.
And he finds out where he is.
And he's like, he wants to get back into Andy's body.
He doesn't really know how long it's been since he was melted.
So he doesn't know if Andy's still a kid or grown up.
It probably was the internet.
The internet was around.
The internet's been around for a long, long time.

(41:57):
But I know commercially it wasn't right properly for a while.
It still could have been, though.
Well, what he finds is, he searches Andy Barkley's name,
he finds that he's been sent to a military school.
So there we go.
That's the opening.
Isn't it like an army academy?
Yeah, military school.
Oh, sorry.
It's where naughty kids get sent.

(42:19):
I just had school and I kind of missed off the military.
It's basically majority of kids in these American military schools,
a lot of them are kids that are just very naughty, criminal kids.
Yeah.
And their parents can't be fucked with them.
So they send them off there and still discipline them.
Yes and no.
Not all of them.
I can't be fucked with them.
Some of them just be like, "I can't take it."
No, no, no.

(42:40):
I said most of them.
There aren't going to be the ones there that haven't got much choice
because they haven't got any parents or whatever.
Or some of them want to join the army, genuinely.
But there is also like, you know, a bunch of fucking people here.
Oh, kids go in trouble.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So we cut to the school and Andy is arriving for his first day.

(43:03):
So I do love the setting of a new person arriving at like either a school
or a prison or the army.
Because you always feel sorry for them having to get to know all the rules
and all the people.
Do you know what I mean?
I love that kind of thing.
So probably one of the reasons why I love this movie.
I want to know why Kersi's dad, it's not Frank, is it in a Hellraiser?

(43:26):
Has the barber in this?
I can't remember what his name is in Hellraiser.
I want to know what his backstory, can we have a spin-off?
Can we have a child's play universe?
Can we have his story?
And it's him.
Why is he so fucking obsessed with hair?
Well, we'll get to him, but I do feel there's some pedo qualities about that guy.
He's probably keeping right hair, making pillows out of it.

(43:51):
Maybe his backstory links into that episode.
So we need a child's play universe, a CPU.
CPU, baby.
So Andy arrives and he gets taken into the office
and one of the people that runs the military school says,
"No, I understand your backstory.
I know that your mum's in a psych ward,

(44:12):
but these delusions you've had as a child of a killer doll,
they're all delusions, you need to drop all of that.
You're grown up now and I've got my eye on you.
You're going to be pulling your weight here at this military academy.
I'm not going to take any shit from you because it's time to grow up."
He says, "All right, that's a good start.

(44:34):
Here I am cut to the barber who, as you say,
gets off on Pichaving young boys' heads."
He's got a thing for it.
It exceeds the...
His place of work, his abode, his enclosure, shall we say,
should be where any tendency of this nature should stay.

(44:58):
Not outside. You shouldn't be grabbing people's heads
when they're eating food and stuff.
"Come see me this week," and just weird stuff like that.
In my head, he used to be a soldier,
but he's had an injury, so we can't ever do anything in the field again.
So they're like, "Well, you can still be in the army if you want to be the barber."

(45:20):
He's taking his tension out on kids' haircuts.
Yeah, because he sort of frightens them, doesn't he?
It screams at them. And he's got a catchphrase.
Well, he explains why you don't have long hair.
Because you get your head pulled back and you get your throat slit.
By the Romans.
So Andy goes to visit him.

(45:41):
This barber has got a catchphrase as well, which is,
"Presto, you're bald after he shaved your head."
Yeah, and he's talking to Andy and he talks about the throat slitting.
He says, "The Romans didn't like having long hair in the army
because your enemy could grab your hair like this."
And he runs a razor across Andy's throat and says,
"You know, so that's why we have your hair cut short."
He goes to him. He runs his fingers around his hair.

(46:05):
He's like a 16, 17-year-old boy and says,
"Is this a kissy goodbye?"
He's like, "What is going on? Why is this guy so fucking..."
It's got a lot of rage to it and bent up in that place.
He's not letting that sexual rage out anywhere,
apart from his hair, hands and his scissors.

(46:26):
While he's in there getting his hair cut by this absolute pervert,
Andy meets young Tyler, a very young boy at this military academy,
a lot younger, playing his Atari Lynx,
which was a sort of blink-and-you'll-miss-it handheld console
that came out and didn't really do very well.
It wasn't a Game Boy or a Game Gear, wasn't it, let's be honest?

(46:48):
Atari Choy, bless them.
They did try. They did try.
There was another one, wasn't there, the Nomad.
Who made that one? I can't remember who made that one, though.
There was a few of these handheld ones,
but the Game Boy was the king, I think.
So he chats with this young boy,
and while he's getting his hair cut,
a commercial lot comes on TV.
And it's the good guys, and they are back on store shelves,

(47:11):
and it's the little cartoon and say,
"Hi, I'm a good guy, and I'll be your friend to the end."
And Andy's watching it, and he's getting the PTSD flashbacks
back to when he was a child,
and his mum gave him one of these for Christmas,
and it tried to kill everyone around him,
and he's thinking, "That on top of a pervert cutting your hair for you."
It's just not a good start to the military academy for young Andy.

(47:32):
It's not, is it?
Not at all.
The worst my barber does when I'm chatting to him is sort of,
"Ask me how my week's been."
He certainly doesn't run a razor across my throat,
or smell my hair,
or say, "Kiss it goodbye."
I wouldn't go back to him.
Maybe I would, I don't know.
Maybe I would.

(47:54):
Andy goes into his new room,
and he's in his room, and he's thinking,
"Well, it looks like I'm sharing with someone,
but there's no one in here."
Then he hears some noises coming from the cupboard.
The fuck is going on with this?
What's up with this, Daniel, please?
He has got the most geekiest, fucking,
nerdiest, bullied roommate,

(48:15):
who is Whitehurst, his name is,
and he has been tied up
in the cupboard
by Shelterston,
who is like the kid in charge, basically.
He's going to be like a Sergeant Major when he's older.
They basically have got Whitehurst as their pet.

(48:36):
He does everything they ask,
and they've tied him up and put him in the cupboard as a prank.
Andy initially thinks it might be chucky in there or something,
but it turns out he's Whitehurst,
and he says it was Shelton that did this to me.
"I'm sure you'll meet him at some point."
And indeed they do, because the next scene is an inspection.
All the soldiers are stood outside.
I say soldiers, they're all kids, but they're all in uniform.

(48:58):
And again, poor Andy doesn't know the drill.
He doesn't know, you're supposed to say "Sir" and "Sir"
at the beginning and the end of each sentence.
It doesn't even know how to hold a gun later on or anything like that.
So he's got this Shelton character, who's an absolute prick.
Yeah, he's got dad issues.
He's played really well, because I fucking hate this kid.

(49:21):
And he's screaming in everyone's face.
He goes up to Whitehurst and says,
"You are a sorry sack of shit.
You're the worst soldier I've ever seen."
And then he looks at Andy and he says,
"What are you looking at?"
And he says, "Oh, nothing sir, sorry."
And he's like, "Dargh!"
And starts screaming in his face.
"You're going to listen to me!"

(49:43):
And really screams at him.
This is where we meet the lovely De Silva,
who was a female soldier at the Academy.
De Silva!
She says under a breath, she goes,
"You asshole!"
And Shelton says,
"What did you just say?"
And she says,
"Sir, I said you asshole, sir!"

(50:06):
So she's got the biggest balls out of anyone.
Yeah.
I quite like the fact that very early on we established
a really strong female character.
And it's nice having her,
because she is really like,
she seems not senior,
but she's been there a while,
because there's obviously a relationship
between those two already, the sergeant.

(50:27):
Yeah.
And she gives him a shit.
And then he says to 25% up.
She's like, "You know, right?"
He starts doing him and then he's like,
"Oh, oh, oh."
He's a bit like, fucking hell, she's doing him.
One handed, and she goes,
"Okay."
And does like two or three more of one hand.
One armed.
And he's like, "Uff."
Anyway.
And it's just the way she...

(50:48):
She stands back up.
Yeah, she does seem.
Yeah, and Andy's looking at her thinking,
"Fucking hell, not only are you quite hot,
but you're also a badass."
I love the fact that she's...
Obviously she does think he's an asshole,
but Andy's turned up and she's like,
"Brilliant dick."
That's what she's thought,
because she's very much fancy to him.
So she's gone.
I'm going to stack up for him,

(51:09):
because I'm going to get some of that.
Straight away.
And I'm going to show him how fucking cool I am.
But also, any girl that can do 23 press-ups
and then two more 100, what a badass.
I think it's 27 and three more,
because I think it's 30.
Any human that can do it.
Yeah.
Not just a girl.
Kind of 25, you are correct.
I could do a couple of 100 press-ups,

(51:30):
but I could anyway back in the day, but...
I'm going to come around and I'm going to film this,
and we're going to go live on the Facebook group.
Well, I did the press-up challenge once, right?
That's right, dear.
Sorry, we're going live.
We're going live.
Alright.
Absolutely.
So, um...
Tyler.
Young little Tyler that we met earlier.
He goes to...

(51:51):
He's got ears like a vampire.
Why?
They're like light bulbs.
They kind of go pointing inwards.
They're real big rounded at the bottom.
They go up and pointy, like a vampire.
Okay.
I just thought he had a vampire ears.
He's got a little bit of a sticking out ear.
So, I'm kind of like in an ear thing here.
Like, you know, I can say someone's four-eyed

(52:13):
if they've got glasses, because they wear glasses.
So, you know, I think there's an ear thing going on.
I can say this without being rude.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
Well, we find out a little bit of enough of a back story of him,
because he goes to the post room,
and they go, "Sorry, son, still nothing from your dad."
So, he never hears from his parents, his poor kid.
But he says, "Don't worry.

(52:34):
I'm sure he's off fighting battles somewhere out there,
because he's too busy."
Oh, great.
Great.
But he says to him, "Oh, if you want to make yourself busy, though,
there is a job, a special job that I can give you,
because this kid is like 10."
So, they say, "Look, this big giant parcel
in the shape of a good guy box has just arrived
for someone called Andy Barclay, a new kid.
Can you take the parcel to him?"

(52:55):
And he's like, "Yeah, yeah."
And he's like 10.
So, he loves being given jobs to do, you know.
It's like, "Great.
I'll go and do that."
But as he's walking along, you know...
Right, this kid...
This kid has trust issues to the extreme.
Yeah, but go up again.
He's nine or 10 or something, you know?
No, no, no.
My son is 10 this year.

(53:18):
So, we're at the exact same ballpark here.
I'd like to think that he's trusted...
I'd like to think if he saw, right...
He sees a doll, yeah, almost as high, yeah, talking,
wake up and say, "Oh, you fucking can't."
Or whatever he says to him.
Or whatever he says, "Fuck."
And it doesn't bother Elijah.
If that happens, that's one thing.

(53:39):
Then, if he sees him killing people,
if that does not affect him and think,
"Oh, I don't know about this,"
then fair play across the board, nine to 10-year-olds,
have this open trust issue.
If a doll says to a kid, "Let's play a game called 'Hide the Soul',"
I would hope that a 10-year-old kid wouldn't want to do that.
See?

(54:00):
See, you're on my wavelength now.
There's extreme trust issues going on.
Well, even my kids, who are not even three yet...
He's probably recognised there's some danger.
They've got a sense.
If they saw a little kid, a doll, bigger than them, running around,
they're not going to be happy.
They've got a sixth sense,
because if we walk past somebody in the street,
and I think to myself, "That person looks a bit dodgy,"

(54:23):
the kids will be like, "Daddy, can you pick me up?"
And I think, "You know something that I don't.
Kids can smell danger and fear, I think."
Anyway, so this kid, he's taken this parcel to Andy,
but on the way there, he's bumping into everyone,
because he's a little, and they all hate him,
because he's a little kid,
and he drops the parcel down some stairs, and it rips a bit,

(54:44):
and he sees that it's a good guy doll,
and he thinks, "I'm going to fucking have this myself," aren't I?
Yeah.
So he takes it into the basement.
He has nothing to do.
He's there as a young kid with massive trust issues.
He's got Atari links.
Yeah. Oh, okay. Right.
Pretty decent.
But other than his Atari links...
How did he get Atari links?

(55:05):
His dad sent it to him, I guess, maybe.
Did he? Did he now?
Did he just nick it or someone else's post?
It arrived for somebody else.
Little fucker.
Somebody else is still there going,
"My mum sent me an Atari links.
I'm still waiting for it to arrive."
I'm glad this isn't Amazon Times.
That could be... I'll take it every time.
I'll take it.
No, hang on.
Hang on, there's been a problem.

(55:26):
Everyone's complained about every Amazon package going missing.
I don't know nothing about it.
In his room, he's there, floating.
Are you saying if we go into Little Ten-Year Old Toler's room in this movie,
it's full of, like, widespread TV...
Full of fucking stolen shit from there.
High-fives.
Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.
He needs his...
In his own spin-off.
He's, like, Nick the Greek from Locke-Sorkily.
I don't know.

(55:47):
He's flocking them all around the military place.
Oh, did you... Did you not come in the post?
I've got one, actually.
I'll sell it to you.
I've got a Game Boy.
Do you want a Game Boy?
Yeah. 15 bucks.
Well, he opens...
He takes the package down to the basement, and he's very excited.
'Cause he's only a kid, and it's a doll.
And he's seen these on TV.
Listeners, I'm glad I've established his trust issues.
You can let Dan tell the story of the child and his actions.

(56:10):
Yeah, so he opens the box, and he looks at it, and he's like,
"Oh, wow, wow."
And he's looking at the doll through the little pit-pit plaster,
and suddenly Chucky...
Rah, jumps out at him.
And then the first thing he says to him is,
"Who the fuck are you?"
Yeah.
And rather than sort of be a bit alarmed, the kid's like,
"Oh, I thought you guys could only say ten different phrases."

(56:34):
And then he's like,
"Look, listen, where's Andy?"
And he's like, "Andy here."
And he's like, "Andy Barkley."
And he's like, "Where am I?"
And he starts realizing...
Well, that was quite good.
Then you go, "Where's getting that little range?"
Thanks.
He starts looking around, realizing, you know,
he's in some kind of military school.
And then he realizes that Andy would be a lot older.

(56:58):
So he looks at this kid, and he thinks,
"Ah, I can get into your body,
and then I've got even more years."
You know, and probably...
I guess part of his reason for wanting to go into a child's body
is because a child wouldn't be expected to murder people, you know?
Can you change it to a spirit going into a child's body?

(57:19):
Yeah, spirit going into his soul.
So he says to him,
"Let's be friends.
Let's play a game called 'Hide the Soul.'
You've got to pay the trotor to get into the boy's hole."
He's "Hide the Sausage Roll."
Are you saying boy's hole or boy's soul?

(57:42):
It sounds like you're saying boy's hole.
Classic, classic.
He's always sending in Philadelphia.
But yeah, so he basically does hide the soul.
Cutting to what that's all going on,
we just have a quick cut to the shooting range.
Before we cut to it, the trust issues with 'Hide the Soul,'
and like, "No worries. How do we play it?"

(58:04):
Talking, swearing, dull.
Lie down on the floor, and I'll stand over you and say the chant.
Brilliant. I've got nothing else to do.
I'm still male.
While I'm chanting, 'Thunder and Lightning'
is going to be coming over the sky, you know?
And this is the chant, by the way, that he says.
It's a, "Ade du Dambala.

(58:27):
Give me the power I beg of you.
Valangela Santiera."
And it goes on and on and on.
Give me the power I beg of you.
And that's how Brad DeRiff gets his soul into your body.
Sorry if you're listening, Brad.
Anyway, we cut briefly to the shooting range,

(58:48):
and this is another chance to find out if De Silva is a badass,
because she is a wicked shot with a rifle.
Cool she is. She's like Tom Cruise now.
Anything she does, she's got big smiles.
She's the happiest person at the party.
And this is her first chance to flirt with Andy,
because Andy is shit at shooting.
Then they put their arms around your rifle.
It's a real role reversal though, isn't it?

(59:10):
Because normally the guy goes to the girl.
So it's cool to see, and he's like, looking at her,
and she's like, "Don't look at me. Look at the target.
Keep your eyes open.
Squeeze the trigger. Don't pull it. Squeeze."
And he's like, "Oh, squeeze it."
Well, it's that classic.
At the only time I was just shotguns on the gun range,
I didn't really do it, but I do want to do the whole,

(59:33):
get a sniper rifle and just be like,
"Okay, inhale, squeeze."
- Gav. - Exhale.
- I went clay pigeon shooting from my brother's stand. - I have done clay pigeon.
And I was phenomenal at it.
I don't understand, because I thought I'd be shit at shooting,
but I hit almost every...

(59:54):
I mean, we all did quite well,
but I was like in the top two or three of the 12 of us that were there.
I hit almost every one.
I just have a natural eye for that.
When it came to the bow and arrow shooting,
I was fucking atrocious, because I didn't even barely have the strength
to pull the fucking bow back.
That natural hunter, apart from the bow.

(01:00:15):
I wouldn't really be good at killing things either, I don't think.
But clay pigeons, fuck them. I'll shoot them all.
I don't know what a fucking kill thing is, probably not.
Just on a side note, one of the worst injuries you can get with a bow and arrow,
and they did warn us of this, and I ended up getting this injury,
is if you're not careful and you don't turn your body correctly,

(01:00:36):
if you don't turn your body correctly, when you let go of the string,
it can take, and it has taken, people's nipples off,
because you think they're tight.
And it did catch my nipple, but it didn't take it off.
I still have both nipples, I'm glad to say.
There's a few things in archery that could hurt,
even just your hand grip, getting it wrong could really hurt,

(01:00:57):
because there's such a lot of tension going on.
You've got to have a really good strength, haven't you?
When you let go of the bow, or even on the other hand,
where it could go up and just hit in the other hand.
Yeah, you've got to have very, very strong arms.
Anyway, that's this week's archery podcast with Dan and Gav.
Well, this week's archery podcast, we'll be discussing nipples.

(01:01:19):
Next week, Geoffrey Archer's coming in to talk about archery,
while drinking archer cider.
I like what you did there, I like what you did there.
Yes, De Silva is a badass, and she's helping him aim.
Cut back to playing hide the soul.
Luckily, two grown men interrupt this hide the soul game.

(01:01:41):
That's good, grown men should be interrupting hide the soul games.
They sort of look at him like, "Tiler, what are you doing here?"
"Dolls are for girls, you shouldn't be playing with dolls."
Is this a wanking thing?
It's for jacking off.
So, they take the doll off him, and as they take the doll away,

(01:02:05):
he says secretly to Tyler, "I'll be back."
And then they take the doll away, and cut to outside.
And poor old Andy, this is his first time,
he's going to have to do some rifle, sort of, I don't know what you call it.
You spin the rifles, and you move it from your left shoulder to your right shoulder,
and all that kind of stuff, and you're marching along.

(01:02:26):
It's rifle, shoulder, spinny, spinny.
That's exactly the technical term for it.
Thank God, you're a military expert.
Whilst Andy is trying to catch up with the rest of the group,
and move the rifle in the same way as them,
he sees Chuckie being taken away by the chief, Lieutenant.

(01:02:47):
Chuckie's probably like, "Fuck this!"
And I was being yanked along with my arm, you know, looking like a cretin.
And this makes Andy drop his rifle,
which makes Shelton, the bad boy, go crazy.
"What are you doing, son? This isn't baton practice!"
Again, another situation, it's just like in two things.

(01:03:12):
There's Chuckie, and I've got this fucking dude.
Last time it was haircut, and on the TV, it was the advert.
And this is where you get that classic where he says,
"Sorry, I'm just not used to guns."
And he goes, "This isn't a gun. This is a rifle."
And then he calls his friend over, and he says,
"Explain the difference."
And he says, "This is my rifle. This is my gun.
This is for firing. This is for fun."

(01:03:33):
Which we've seen in lots of Vietnam movies.
They're basically saying that your gun is your penis,
and your rifle is the weapon that you use.
Because these guys take it all too seriously at this military academy.
So they're sort of berating Andy,
and Chuckie gets thrown in the trash.
The lorry comes on, the bin wagon comes along

(01:03:54):
and picks up the big trash can and empties it in,
and Chuckie starts screaming,
and the poor fella, the driver,
he thinks there's a human in the back of his trash wagon, doesn't he?
And he's like, "Oh, I'll get you out of there. Hang on a minute, son."
Literally, this guy's on the phone, a pay phone, talking to his wife,

(01:04:15):
and I'll be home for dinner. I can't wait to see you.
She said, "I've got great news."
And it's this amazing news. She's pregnant again.
Did you know? This is the spin-off again.
The love that you've given the bin man a backstory in this.
And he's happy. He kind of thinks it's probably that.
They've been working towards it. They've been trying.
And he's on his way home for the happiness.

(01:04:38):
I've got one more bin to empty on my way home.
And, lo and behold, he's killed.
But the happiness that came out of the story of this
was that the little baby ended up being a bin baby bin boy bin man.
Wow.
Incredible tangent.
Fucking hell. Sometimes you surprise me.

(01:05:01):
Jesus Christ.
Well, Chuckie screams enough to make this guy get in the back of the bin wagon.
The guy's trying to find this person.
Chuckie climbs out, turns the crushing mechanism on.
And it's not just a crushing mechanism.
It's like a spinning thing with spikes on it.
And it crushes you at the same time.
And yeah, it crushes him, dies.

(01:05:22):
He screams, Shelton, Andy, and all the soldier boys on the field.
They do. I like the fact that it all sort of run over to her.
Actually, like, turn it off. They'll jump up in the cab.
Well, you know, they're excited.
They want action, don't they?
Yeah, but they go straight over and they all start to kind of work together.
One opens up the cab, gets in it, someone else does something else.

(01:05:44):
Do you know what I mean? I quite like the fact that they were straight away
worked as a team to turn it off.
Sadly though.
Just a small little pile which meant nothing.
No, I know what you mean. I did like that.
But sadly though, the bin man is dead.
The garbage man's arm is hanging out.
Blood is dripping down the garbage truck.
But as we know, his son is going to be bin man extraordinaire.

(01:06:07):
Is he going to avenge him?
It is going to be a bit of an avenging story,
because the baby is going to have a movie later on.
And it will be the sequel.
Quentin Tarantino said he's going to do it for his last movie.
Is it going to be Chucky versus the bin boy?
It is coming back for Chucky, because it's just a doll still.
But it's going to be good.

(01:06:28):
Interesting.
Well, after this terrible tragedy that's happened at the military academy,
we are in Andy's room.
And Andy's got a little knife that he's playing with.
One thing very quickly.
Pretty dominant for a little while.
All of Chucky's kills in this are actually accidental looking.
So even though Chucky's quite happy to make a scene, they're not.

(01:06:51):
So really, no one's any like what the fuck's going on here.
Someone has an account of they saw a fucking doll doing something.
It all looks accidental.
The bin man looks like he was obviously died.
Yeah, that's a good point.
And the next one going on, I think, is the same as well where we get to.
Yeah, that's a good point, actually.
Maybe he's doing that to be clever, or maybe not.

(01:07:12):
No, no, he's not, because Chucky doesn't give a fuck.
He would make a right mess.
He doesn't care.
He considers himself an artist, doesn't he, when it comes to murder.
What is his aim in this, to get to Andy to do what, to get into Andy's soul?
But he theoretically can't get into any kid's soul.
Speaking into anyone's soul, can't he?

(01:07:33):
Well, he's taken a liking to this younger boy, Tyler.
He thinks, well, you're even younger.
Can he get into a dog?
I suppose he could. Why would he want to?
No, just wondering.
Can you just jump in about different bodies?
No, no.
Well, you've got to know both phrases as we find out in the next movie.
But once you know these phrases, you could just do that.

(01:07:54):
It seems pretty straightforward, really.
Yeah, just record it onto your phone, just play that back.
Because in the first movie, the very first movie...
I want to be a really big, muscley man today.
Tomorrow I'm going to be an old lady.
In the very first movie, he just goes to some voodoo guy and says,
"So teach me how to move my soul into somebody else's body."
He's like, "Okay."

(01:08:16):
So all you've got to do is go in the yellow pages and find someone who does voodoo in your area and learn it.
And that's how you do it.
It seems like more people, more things would be running around as objects.
Like, "I'm a transformer today."
I've done a soul swat this weekend.
I'm a mug.
What are you going to do this weekend?
If you get into something and you can't speak like a mug...

(01:08:39):
Well, I think you've got to be into a living thing, haven't you?
You have to, yeah, absolutely.
But Chuck, he wasn't. He was a dull.
Yeah, but that was an accident, wasn't it?
Yeah, but if that's, well, why?
He tried to put his soul into the cop, didn't he?
That means you can go into inanimate objects.
I suppose.
That kind of just ruins it, doesn't it?

(01:09:01):
Yeah.
Shall we finish the podcast?
For good. We're done.
The final episode.
That's it, the final episode, guys. It's been a wild one.
So, cutting back to Andy's room.
As I say, Andy's playing with a little knife
that will come into play a little bit later on.
And Whitehurst is polishing some shoes.
And Andy says, "What are you doing?"
He says, "I'm polishing Shelton's shoes."

(01:09:24):
I basically...
Say, "Polishing Shelton's shoes three times quickly."
Polishing Shelton's shoes.
Okay.
It's difficult, isn't it, that one?
Christ.
So, basically, this poor kid's having to polish Shelton's shoes.
Yeah.
And...
We're like a bad comedy podcast, aren't we?

(01:09:47):
We are.
And Andy's like, "Man, he's really got you wrapped around his finger, hasn't he?"
He's like, "Yeah, he's an asshole,
but I did what I got to do to stay alive."
Chucky is in the trunk in their room, spying on them.
And a guy comes in, Whitehurst says to Andy,
"Oh, by the way, did you get that package?
Tyler was supposed to give you a package."
He says, "No, I bought packages."

(01:10:08):
He's got a shitted himself.
Like, "Oh, God, did he get a woman here?
Did he get a woman here?
I've just got to go check something."
Did you get your Atari links?
And Michael Mars is into the hedge.
Brilliant.
Fantastic stuff.
But obviously, he didn't get the package, so he thinks,
"Well, that's weird.
I'll have to find out who sent me a package.
I don't know who would send me one,

(01:10:29):
because the only person I know is my mum,
and she's in a psych ward."
I didn't get a package.
Where's that gone, then?
Tyler.
Tyler, where'd you get your new doll from?
Chuckie's sneaking around the room.
It looks so sketchy when it moves.
And he grabs Andy's knife, and he hides under the bed.

(01:10:50):
And he actually always slices the back of Andy's heel.
It's a very painful looking thing.
Slicing the back of the kid his heel
should be quite a severe thing,
and he wouldn't be able to walk on that leg.
But it does, and it doesn't seem to be actually a thing.
So did he miss?
I don't know.
You're right, because that is a move

(01:11:12):
that I've seen in other horror movies.
Pet Sematary.
Yeah, and there's another one as well
where you see it separate as they stand up.
Oh, yeah, you do.
I can't remember what it is.
Is it one of those soul movies
or something where it happens to someone?
And you see it separate as they stand up.
I can see it.
I can see that.
So yeah, you're right.
That is a move that would make sure

(01:11:34):
that Andy couldn't do anything
for the rest of this movie.
But he goes on a fucking paintball hunt later on.
It isn't a thing.
It doesn't come up again.
So I'm assuming he missed,
but it just seems a really missed step somewhere.
I don't know.
So he introduces himself
or reintroduces himself to Andy.
And all of Andy's fears are realized.
He says, "Hi, pal."

(01:11:55):
You know what they say?
"You can't keep a good guy down."
And all the other catchphrases.
And Andy says,
"You're not going to get into my soul.
There's no way."
And he's like, "I don't want to get into your soul."
"There's no way getting into my soul."
Are you saying my whole or my soul?
"My soul."
But actually, Chuckie says to him,
"I'm not trying to get yours into your body this time.

(01:12:18):
I'm going to get into that Tyler kid.
Fresh meat."
He says, "He's younger and, you know,
I don't need you."
And then he says,
"A bit of a questionable line,
because the young boy is black."
And he does say,
"Just think Chuckie's going to be a bro."
And you think, "Oh, you didn't really need to say that."
But this was 1991, so...
Andy says, "I'm not going to let you."

(01:12:40):
He grabs Chuckie,
and he starts smashing his head in with Shelton shoes.
Chuckie upside down, his hair comes down.
It looks so weird.
It's the oddest hair.
I know it shouldn't be upside down, but it's...
Donald Trump.
Yeah, extreme Donald Trump.
It's so bizarre.
He could be a little Donald Trump, to be honest with you.
That'd be weird.
Are we saying Donald Trump,
if we put him in a somebody, please?

(01:13:02):
Donald Trump in a Chuckie costume.
I'd love to see that.
Fuck it now.
Shelton walks in the room,
because he's heard a commotion,
and he finds Andy
beating up a doll with his shoes,
and he loses it.
His shoes are fucked.
He's very unhappy.
And then he says,

(01:13:23):
"Ah, I'll take this doll,
because it's my little sister's birthday coming up."
This is where his hair looks really bad.
That's right.
He's holding him up so down.
And he says,
"I think I'll take this doll,
and you make sure that my shoes
look good for me tomorrow.
See you later."
I want to just go...
Forget the murderous doll.
I want to go back to the whole postage

(01:13:44):
for the fifth thing going on here.
Poor Andy's had a package.
It's been stolen by this one kid.
This other guy's coming on.
Stolen the package.
Now, give us a present
to show his affection and love to his sister.
Yeah.
Andy's not having a good day.
It's not good.
So, nighttime happens,
and Andy decides,

(01:14:05):
"Well, I'm going to have to break into Shelton's room
in the middle of the night."
You know, the boss,
the big head boy in charge.
Big cheese.
And I'm going to have to get that doll back.
So he goes in,
he sneaks in,
and Shelton's asleep in the bed.
And he looks up on the board,
and he sees there's an outline of a knife
that's missing, a big Rambo-style knife.
And he thinks,
"Oh, shit, Chuck, he's probably got a big knife now,

(01:14:27):
'cause he's been in here."
But he can't find him anywhere.
It's like...
I've not been in the situation.
I have with big spiders.
But, like, imagine if you...
"Oh, we've got to fuck."
"What? Henry, the pet tarantula, has got an owl."
"Oh, shit, okay."
And you're in the living room going,
"It's okay 'cause it's not good to do anything.
It's more scared of you."
"Okay, but we've just got to find it."

(01:14:49):
It's like that.
But instead, you've got a murderous doll
with a big fucking Rambo knife.
It's so much worse.
I don't want to look under the bed.
It's just, I don't really want to move.
And any second, it might run towards me.
And if it tries to run towards me,
I'll probably move, but...
And on top of that, Shelton is asleep,
and you don't want to wake him up.
Oh, yeah, that guy as well.
A murderous stabby knife.

(01:15:11):
To be fair, if Chuckie comes out,
wake up the guy,
do some military shit on him.
Brilliant.
Underwear sleeping man.
Go.
Well, Andy pulls out his little knife
and Charlie...
Hey, that sounds dodgy.
And Chuckie surprises him,

(01:15:32):
and there's a bit of a struggle.
And this wakes up Shelton,
who thinks that Andy's in his room
with a knife in the middle of the night.
And he thinks he's come to steal the doll back
and also potentially hurt him
because he's got a knife.
So he's like,
"Right, this is it. Where's the doll?"
And he's like,
"I don't know where the doll is."
And he said,
"Well, it looks like we've got ourselves a thief."

(01:15:53):
Cut to middle of the night,
pouring down with rain,
and Shelton, basically, to punish Andy,
has made every single kid from the Academy
get out in the pouring rain
and march around in circles with their...
row falls up in the air,
doing press-ups,
and basically, like,
trying to get Andy to admit he took the doll.

(01:16:16):
Are you sad that you didn't have this in your youth?
I'm so fucking glad I didn't have to do this.
I mean, I kind of did it at school.
PE was like this sometimes.
Yeah, it was like waking up in the middle of the night,
I suppose, walking around in circles with a gun above your head.
Yeah, thank God it wasn't that.
But I did have to do something.
Fuck that shit, though. Seriously.

(01:16:37):
Who needs that?
I did have a PE teacher that got a real kick out of it.
If it was really horrible rain,
and our school was out in the country,
and he'd go,
"Right, we're doing cross-country today for double PE,
and you'd make us run, like, five miles in the pouring rain
through mud and kaypats,
and it would just be so horrible."
And he'd be like, "Come on, lads!

(01:16:58):
Come on, pick up your knees!"
They always were horrible, weren't they?
PE teachers.
PE teacher. Oh, one.
He just sat opposite the shower, so as soon as the exit came out,
you're naked, he would sit there.
Have a look.
Yeah.
Was he impressed?
I don't know. I'd never asked.
Horrible.

(01:17:19):
What do you - what makes - like, what do you see?
It's like a 14-year-old boy.
One day, after volleyball, one day,
we were in the - we were all showering,
which we all hated as kids, obviously.
You know, you don't want anyone to see your private parts
when you're going for your PE, but it's what it is.
But we had to, and there was one boy that was taking so long
that our PE teacher came in the shower with the volleyball

(01:17:41):
and threw it as hard as he could.
You know how hard a volleyball is,
and it hit this kid on the back,
and he was naked in the wet shower,
and it - you heard, like, the boing on his skin,
and we all just thought,
"Oh!"
And he said, "You take too long in the shower.
Come on."
And I thought, "What?"
So you're hitting him with a volleyball on his naked back

(01:18:02):
to make him -
that's not going to make him get any faster, is it?
Jesus Christ.
Imagine being, like, at school now, doing PE.
It must be, like, so, like, everything so sensitive.
There's cotton wool there. Don't trip your eye.
Don't worry. Everything's okay.
There's no one looking at you.
We've got every gender shower you can - everything's -

(01:18:23):
everything's - nothing's happening.
Everybody look down.
Everyone's blindfolded, in fact.
Everyone's safe.
But then it was just volleyball's in -
Oh, fuck it. And PDO's looking at you.
Looking at you. Told you.
There you go.
So, yeah, the others - while they're doing this marching,
they all start realising that there's something to do with Andy.
Very quickly.
Another thing - I've said this before, I think -

(01:18:45):
at the same school, I was at, right,
a girl who was in my year, yeah,
she was sleeping with the art teacher.
Amazing.
She, in fact, one night, stalled his car.
I think she was, like, 16.
When did you go to school?
I can't - I was about to say that now.
I don't know. I'll just say those things.

(01:19:07):
And that's just, like, what the fuck?
Yeah, that's crazy.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
And I don't think anything happened to him, but, yeah,
but what the fuck?
And it was an own thing amongst all of us, though.
Well, the other kids start realising that this is probably Andy's fault,
so they trip him over and they're all sort of saying,

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"You're a dead meat, Barkley."
And he's, like, "Ah, fuck's it."
And Whitehurst keeps saying to him,
"Whatever has happened, you need to, like, own up to it,
'cause we can't run around all night."
In fact, the officers come out at one point and they say,
"What's going on?"
And he says, "We've got a thief."
Shelton says, "We've got a thief," and he's like,
"Well, no later than 1 a.m.
I don't want to hear any letter than that."

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So Shelton says to his second-in-command,
"Right, we've only got two hours. Let's really work them."
So they're going to be spending at least another two hours out there
running around in the rain, doing press-ups and holding their rifles,
poor kids.
Jucky searches for Tyler,
and Tyler thinks it's all a game of hide-and-seek
that he's playing with his doll.
He thinks, "Yeah, we're going to play hide-and-seek together,"

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'cause he's hiding from Jucky.
I can't trust the issues.
But Jucky is really annoyed.
He doesn't want to play hide-and-seek.
Jucky's just like, "You're too easy to manipulate.
I don't even need to manipulate you.
You're just literally giving me piggybacks everywhere."
But Andy knows that Tyler is in danger.
So he says to Wildhurst while they're marching,

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he says, "Where are the younger kids' bedrooms?"
And he's like, "Oh, they're over there."
He says, "That's right. I'm going to go."
And he sneaks off, and he thinks he's going to go and save Tyler.
But Shelton catches him and says, "Where are you going?"
And he punches, well, he sort of pushes Andy.
It's a good character to have, the arsehole.
For any moment you need something to happen, throw the arsehole in there.

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Well, he stops Andy, and Andy actually punches Shelton,
which really takes him by surprise.
He thinks, "That's a good punch, and you're going to pay for that."
But at least we know Andy can swing a good punch,
and he's hit our main evil bastard in the face as well, which is good.
So Andy tells Wildhurst, basically, this is what's going on.

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The doll is alive, and it's after Tyler.
And Wildhurst obviously thinks, "You are fucking crazy. Stay away from me.
I don't want anything to do with you.
Let's just march until 1am and then we'll go to bed."
Yeah, it is a bit like, "What are we on about?"
Now, while all this is going on, and this is getting close to 1am now,
Chucky sneaks into this big sort of war room office thing with models

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and lots of medals and trophies, because he's looking for Tyler.
Meanwhile, two girls sneaking, one of whom is De Silva,
and she's roped her friend in to sneak into the main office in the middle of the night,
because they want to look up Andy's file, because De Silva's got the hots for him.
Like you said earlier, girl, and she wants to know all the details about him.

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So they look up his details, "Oh, right. Yeah, cool. His mum's in a psych ward."
And, "Okay, yeah, that's good. That's good to know. Yeah, great, great.
Okay, he's so dishy. I can't wait."
So then they hear a noise, and they find the Chucky doll.
They put some lipstick on him, and then they...

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He's really fucking annoyed with that.
They tell Tyler to stop, you know, playing with the doll.
"Come on, it's time to go."
And they all leave because the colonel's coming.
The colonel comes in the room. It's one of my favourite deaths, actually.
And I'll explain why.
The colonel comes in the room, and all he finds is the Chucky doll on the floor.

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So he puts it in the bin, looks around, the bin's empty.
And Chucky jumps out of the room at night, and we're expecting this amazing kill.
What actually happens is, because this guy's a bit older and overweight,
as a fucking heart attack, falls back onto a glass table and dies.
And Chucky does a thing reference here, doesn't he?

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What was that?
"You gotta be fucking kidding me!"
Uh, yeah, but it seems like the right thing to say for Chucky,
because he wants to take the kill, and again, it looks accidental.
And he's been denied. In this case, he didn't even get a chance to do anything.
All he did was jump out on this guy.
He's so pissed off.
I remember, as a kid, watching this thing laugh in my head off,

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thinking, "That's so funny, 'cause this guy just had a heart attack.
He didn't get to do anything."
No. Just before this is where Chucky sounded and looked like Jack Nixon really says,
"This means war!"
He does. He does say that.
So the body is taken away, the colonel's body, and everyone's very sad.

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And I think Andy says something along the lines, "This is too suspicious.
There's two deaths in 24 hours. This is weird."
So next morning, it's breakfast, and Shelton says,
"This breakfast is dedicated to the colonel.
Let's all take a moment of silence to remember a great man."
And while they're all having breakfast, Barbara is back.

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Peter Barbara.
Barbara?
Barbara's back.
And Barbara's going up to random kids going,
"Come and see me on Tuesday. Come and see me on Thursday.
Come and see me after breakfast."
And he's like grabbing their hair or smelling their hair.
They're saying, "When was the last time you came to see me, kid?"
Yeah, I know.

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This guy is fucking Jimmy Savile.
It's only keeping on him, but they didn't probably care.
Do you reckon there's anyone called Barbara Barbara?
There's got to be, aren't there?
Barbara Barbara.
Barbara Barberson.
But yeah, his true pervy, that nurse is shown here.
Someone trips over Andy, because Andy wants to go over and sit with Tyler.

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Oh, right.
What were you going to say?
Because as he gets up and he goes off, I was like,
"Oh, my God, it's to find the man."
It kind of is, because they say, "You're not allowed to move tables."
Yeah, that's what I thought.
And I thought it's more of a thing like that, but it wasn't.
He wants to go and speak to Tyler, so he goes and sits on his way there.
He trips over the whole food hall.
And then he puts his leg out, and then he makes him look like a right dick.

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He does. Not nice.
He sits down and says to Tyler,
"Who's playing his stolen Atari Lynx? We've established."
Fucking can.
It's a ten-year-old child, Gav.
It's a thief.
Fucking thief.
He says to him, "Look, I want to talk to you about Chuckie."
He's like, "What about him? He's my friend.
You're just jealous, because he wants to be my friend, not yours."

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And Andy's like, "No, listen, you mustn't trust him.
You mustn't listen to him, and you must stay away from him."
And he's like, "He's just my friend.
He wants to play with me."
Oh, my God. Trust issues, kid.
And Andy says to him, "Right, we'll take this knife just in case."
And he gives him his little stabby knife.
So, now Tyler's got a knife on him, which is great.

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And then Whitehurst goes to the barbers,
because he's been ordered to go and see Mr. Pervert.
And he says, "Right, we're going to catch you here."
It's such a sad person.
He gets gleeing, giving people misfortune.
They're getting their cut in the hair, so they're sad.
He's like an energy vampire, or a happiness vampire.

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He's a hair vampire.
He sucks your hair off.
A hair vampire.
Ooh, that sounds like a disease.
Why did you get turned on by it?
Oh, disease.
What's the sexiest disease?
What's the sexiest disease?
What's the sexiest virus?
Oh, right, yeah.

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I was going for the STDs, but I thought it was less.
God of Rear is really hot.
Chlamydia?
I love the look of genital warts.
So Whitehurst gets his head shaved,
and of course the barber says, "Presto, you're bold."
Whitehurst leaves, and the barber's left alone.

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Whitehurst gets his head shaved.

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That's what we need in a Dollsplay movie.
A Pido grabbing Chucky.
We don't need any of that in a Dollsplay movie.
Never want that.
Never want that.
So he puts him in the chair,
and he says, "Okay, kiss your hair goodbye."
But before he can do anything,
Chucky's cut for it razor,

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and this kill really shocked me when I was younger.
The way the slit of the throat happens,
he cuts the barber's throat,
and the slit opens up a little bit as his head tilts back,
and the blood sort of comes out,
goes all over the mirror,
and Chucky says his line back to him,
he says, "Prestle, you're dead."
Which is cool as fuck.

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And this is Chucky's first kill.
First blood.
And a witness,
because Whitehurst has left his jacket,
he runs back down into the barber room,
sees the barber dead with blood everywhere,
and Chucky just says, "Boo."
So Whitehurst runs off,
and he runs out to the crowd where everyone's lined up.
Doing a war games talk,

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'cause they're about to go out,
and it's just chatting about the situation.
The main dude is to the sides,
there's gonna be two sides,
there's gonna be a blue side and a red side, is there?
Yeah, blue team, red team.
There's paintball rifles.
Capture the flag, paintball pellets.
And although the colonel's dead,
you know, he would want us to carry on,
'cause it's an annual tradition,

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so it's really important that we honor what he would have wanted.
And this kid comes up traumatized,
and he kind of hangs at the wall for a little bit,
then just kind of goes back into the crowd and says,
"He should say, right at this moment,
the barber is dead."
Right, we need to shut off everything,
get down there now,
say that's the main guy right now,
that's what you should do.
'Cause that's the third person die in the last 24 hours

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at this military academy, you know?
He just gets in line and just won't say anything.
But he's in shock, though, isn't he?
He's in shock at what he's seen,
and also it's sinking in that what Andy told him.
'Cause Andy said to him, the doll is after people,
so he's starting to think, okay,
so he's a wreck, you're right, he's a wreck.
Meanwhile, holy shit,

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in the ammo room,
Chuckie decides, "I know what'll be fun,
let's replace all the paintball pellets with real bullets."
It's not all of them, it's just, it does some.
Yeah, but again, that's incredibly shocking
that these teenagers are going to go off into the woods,
some of them with live ammunition,
and not knowing that they're going to get...
Yeah, it's pretty full on.

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Fucking hell, this is why I love this movie,
'cause there are some shocking factors to it.
If it had been all of them,
and they literally just annihilate each other,
that had just been...
You could make that film nowadays.
Funny you say that, it was originally going to be all of them,
and that scene later, it was going to be a real blood bath.
Fuck.
But they rewrote it and re-shot some of it,
and in the end, they decided they couldn't kill that many teenagers in one.

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Yeah, yeah.
In the end, we only get a couple of deaths,
and actually, it's more meaningful the deaths that we do get
when we get to those as well,
'cause only a couple of people really get killed.
It does mean a lot.
But even so, it's still shocking that live ammunition has been used,
and they don't know.
It's a bit like Alec Baldwin just waving a gun around
and not realising, you know, "Whoops, sorry about that."

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Anyway, sorry, that's a bit too...
Too soon, maybe? I don't know.
So they march into the woods, singing another little song,
and Whitehurst says, "Look, I saw Chuckie, okay? I saw him.
I don't want to talk about it anymore."
And we cut to nighttime, and they're all come together.
They're taking this paintball game incredibly serious.
They're sort of having to camp out.

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It is very serious, yes.
And sort of, they're really trying to take down the other team.
They can capture other people from the team if they want,
or they can shoot them.
And, you know, the goal is to capture the flag, basically.
So they're all sort of telling campfire tales.
And De Silva and Andy get some alone time.
They're overlooking the town nearby,

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and they see a fun fair down at the town.
And this is where they have a little kiss.
So good on Andy.
And De Silva finally got what she wanted as well, which is good.
But there's a sneaky little red-headed pervert watching him kiss, isn't there?
Yeah.
Chucky's in the woods watching.
He is a little bit of a pervert here.
He's like, "Ugh."

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Have they done Chucky parody porn?
I should imagine so.
If they've done E.T. porn, they would have done Chucky porn.
I heard about it.
I listened to another podcast the other day.
It was podcast on the left, and they mentioned E.T. porn.
They talked about it a little bit, and they were like, "Oh, so proud."
The one that fascinates me, which I've never seen,
and I probably should Google it at some point when Alice isn't home,

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is the Edward Dildo hands.
I can only imagine what the fuck goes on there, really.
Edward Dildo hands.
Fuck, you know.
Who came up with that?
I don't know.
Was it you?
It was not me.
Okay.
So yeah, they kiss, and Chucky watches that.

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Andy says to White House, "I'm going to go off.
I'm going to sneak off.
I'm going to go and save Tyler," because Tyler's on the other team.
So he sneaks off.
White House says, "Well, I'm not going with you.
I'm too scared.
I don't know what this is about."
The blue team start to move out.
They can't find Andy anywhere, and they say to White House,
"Where the hell is Barclay?

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He must be a traitor for the red team."
That double-crossing son of a bitch.
Tyler sat up in his tent, and Andy's searching the woods,
looking for him.
And this is where we see a bit of a yoda now,
because Chucky's on Tyler's back, marching through the woods.
Yeah, it's really weird.
At this point here, Tyler should be almost.

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There shouldn't be any rules.
You should do whatever the fuck you want.
It should be kind of the third act, but it's kind of weird.
It just doesn't feel like the story doesn't work properly almost.
It just kind of flows along.
It just keeps on going.
Yeah, the third act is like the fun part, isn't it?
Yeah, and it's just... I don't know, it's just...
This is the end of the first act, I guess.

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I wasn't having emotional ups and downs as I should have such.
I mean, I'm not expecting much, right?
So it's a part three in a franchise of horror movies.
But my issues were, I just wasn't...
The story felt very flat.
Yeah, fair enough, fair enough.
Well, so Chucky is on Tyler's back, and he's basically marching him.
He's got a knife to him, and he says, "Let's play hide the soul. Come on."

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He pulls a knife on him.
Sorry, Tyler pulls a knife on him and stabs Chucky and runs off.
And then Andy gets caught by the blue team.
They call him a traitor, as I say.
De Silva gets jumped by Chucky.
On to her back shoulders, was it?
Yeah.

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Does he jump down from something?
I can't remember how he does it, no.
Maybe he's just really good at jumping, we never knew.
Yeah, a little ninja.
Tyler gets caught as well, and Chucky grabs a radio,
and he sort of radios one of the team and says,
"This is good, though, because this is the best thing.
We have this in the next movie as well, where he shouts out,

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"Well, the fuck are you, Tiffany?"
Yeah.
"Well, he's inside, and it's just a normal person outside."
But because it's his voice, he does have the power
of being able to do stuff like radios, phones, ring emergencies,
call people, find information.
Without someone going, "What the fuck? It's a doll."
And this is very clever, this scene, because of that,

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because he radios one of the teams and says,
"We got a situation here at the old jeep.
Can you come and meet us at the old jeep?
Right away, we'll be there soon."
And then he radios the red team and says,
"Red team, red team, come on in.
I think I spotted the blue team here at the old jeep."
And he basically knows that these kids are going to come together
at this spot that he's asked them to come to,

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some of them with live ammunition.
Yeah, totally.
And he's waiting for a blood bath.
Plus, he's got Tyler and De Silva there.
So it's all coming together for him.
And he's holding a fucking grenade.
Chucky's got hold of a grenade as well, so...
It's not good. A kid at a doll with a Rambo knife
and a grenade is not good.

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To survive war, you've got to become war.
It's a bit of a rambo.
I've seen no Chucky dressed as Rambo.
Well, we've seen Gizmo dressed as Rambo.
But Chucky'd be nice.
I think we should get a little Chucky for the studio down there.
We don't actually have the virtual studio.
No, because we want it.
But one, we can actually dress up into different movie stars.

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That's a good idea.
Liam, you've been taken.
We have a costume, but we could try and put shirts and trousers on him.
When I take my kids into the city centre,
sometimes they go to one of the shops, please.
There's loads of different clothes you could buy for little people.
No, no, no. I think you're getting it wrong.
When I take them to the city centre,
I go past this TV and movie store that sells all the prop replicas.

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And they always want to stop and look at little Baby Yoda and all the other things.
But they always want to stop and look at the Tiffany and the Chucky life-sized dolls.
And they love them so much.
But little do they know what they actually are.
They just think they're like cool little dolls that are the same size as them.
I know the shop you mean, as well.
Is it one where if you just look out for it, there's an escalator going up?

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Yes.
I don't know what you mean. I had a look in there last year, actually.
Yeah, it's a good little shop.
Can't remember the name of it, no?
No.
Not that we're going to mention it because they're not our sponsor.
Sponsorist.
Sponsorist and we'll mention your name.
So there's Chucky dolls.
So, yeah, Chucky's got the grenade.
Shelton says, "Don't be worried. It's only paintbarkley."

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Well, we know it isn't. Some of it isn't.
Andy and Tyler arrive at the Chucky in the old Jeep and they say,
"All right, we'll swap you, Tyler, for De Silva."
So they managed to switch them over.
So Chucky's now got Tyler.
And then before they can finish the transaction, the two teams arrive.
I'm sure Tyler at this point is like, "I don't know what's going on."

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I just want to play hide and seek with my new friend.
I'll go with my friend, Charles Lee Ray. I'll go with him.
He's even told him his real name.
Hi, Charles.
But the two teams arrive and during the commotion,
they start shooting each other.
They see Chucky there who's laughing his head off.
He has a grenade unpinned.

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And Shelton is shot in the chest and killed.
And somebody shows up, "Oh, my God, it's live rounds."
And they all stop shooting.
Chucky is absolutely laughing his head off at this point, like an absolute maniac.
They're all like shocked that Shelton has been shot and he's dead.

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"We need to get a medic immediately."
Chucky then throws the grenade and Whitehurst is the only one that really sees it.
And even though he's a wimp and a nerd and a poor geek,
he is the only one that can save them all.
And he dives onto the grenade and is exploded and killed.
What a gentleman.

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And Chucky runs off.
So we've lost Shelton and we've lost Whitehurst.
And I'm glad that that's really the only people that really got killed
because it's more meaningful, like I say, that it was just these two.
If it was a load of kids, yeah, it would have been brutal and bloody,
but it would have been a bit less impactful.
So we cut to...

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Chucky runs off, so does Tyler.
Andy runs after them, cut to the fun found.
So this is the third and final round, which is half of that, really.
It's very quick.
They, at one point, go in this ghost train place here.
This is the most epic, hugest ghost train I've ever seen in my whole life.
Funny enough, my notes for this.
The set is epic that they built.

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They built this set and it's amazing.
Oh, yeah, the set is.
But just think of that as the ghost train.
If you're like, oh, I suppose I'll pay a quid.
You know what I'm saying?
It better be good.
Because it starts off as a normal ghost train with coffins opening and stuff.
But then by the end of it, it turns into a fucking rollercoaster on a cliff.
A spiral stain.
You'd be like, that's incredible.
You'd come out and people...

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It's got that giant Grim Reaper slip spinning his big blade across as well.
And it's like, wow.
I could pinch them.
And people would be like, how was it?
It was incredible.
Going there now, it's better than you'd expect.
I guarantee it.
Yeah, I'd be going on this over and over again.
So yeah, we're at the Fun Fair, which is nearby as we know.
Tyler heads into a security tent and says to the security guy,

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you're going to help me.
Charles is after me.
He wants to hurt me.
And the guy's like, OK, kid, OK.
Sit yourself down.
Are you from the military school?
OK, I'll call this one in.
Don't worry about it.
But he gives Chuckie.
He says, oh, I'll tell you what.
While I'm waiting, why don't you look after this doll?
Somebody handed it in at the lost property.
Dun, dun, dun.

(01:40:38):
It's Chuckie.
So Chuckie's back with Tyler.
Dun, dun, dun.
Andy into silver are searching the Fun Fair.
They find the security guard dead.
Chuckie's killed him.
Another kill.
So they take his gun because they're going to need a weapon against Chuckie.
Chuckie also has a gun, which he took during the shootout earlier.

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And he makes Tyler go into this haunted house we're talking about,
which is so fucking cool, as we say.
Andy follows in.
Tyler manages to escape from Chuckie's clutches briefly.
But he is really scared by all the sort of different props
and gags that are jumping out at him.

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So he ends up hiding in a cupboard.
So now you've got Andy into silver searching for Tyler.
Chuckie's also searching for Tyler.
So they're all in this ghost house full of dry ice smoke.
And it's all very cool, very amazing set.
So shame they didn't spend longer, really, in this Fun Fair.
I feel like this would have been a really cool final act, really.
But it feels like half an act, because it's rushed almost.

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Yeah, because obviously with Chuckie being like a dull and a toy,
it would kind of, it sits quite well in a fairground.
Even other rides on the fairground,
this could have been a bit more like an example on John Pasteur.
Remember Dr. Giggles?
Yeah, yeah.
That's like a big bit in the fairground.
There's been a lot of movies that do.

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But yeah, I think Chuckie could have easily,
but this is just such an epic thing.
They must have spent quite a lot of budget on this, maybe.
Yeah, just on this, really.
Unless it was already a ride.
Probably this and the Chuckie effects were like the budget, really.
The rest of it was just like the military school.
Anyway, it ends up with Chuckie shooting to silver in the leg.
So she's kind of out of action.

(01:42:26):
Now you've got a murder doll with a dog.
A dog? A gun?
Fuckin' hell.
Why did I say dog?
I don't know.
Please don't ever get a gun and a dog muddled up.
Jesus Christ.
I'm just taking the dog out and coming back with a gun.
Yeah, so she gives Andy her gun.
So where's the dog?

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She gives Andy her gun.
Tyler gets almost run over by the ghost train
because he's climbing along the tracks.
And then, like we said, there's this giant grim reaper
with its scythe slicing backwards and forwards.
This is nasty.
Isn't that a doll?
Yeah.
Chuckie's face gets sliced off, like half of it.

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Yeah, well, Andy manages to climb to Tyler
and Chuckie starts doing his,
"Give me the power, I beg of you.
I have the power of grade school."
And Tyler is unconscious at this point.
The lightning strikes, then he shoots Chuckie in the arm,
which distracts him.
And half his face gets sliced off with the scythe.

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There's a bit of a struggle.
And it basically very quickly evolves
into them all hanging off of the edge of the cliff.
Chuckie's little legs go up.
Just shaking away as he goes.
And in the end, Tyler gives Andy his knife back.
He stabs Chuckie.
Chuckie gets thrown off the cliff, flies into a giant fan.

(01:43:55):
Completely and utterly sliced.
But yeah, somehow he manages to come back.
Jennifer Tilly is a fantastic seamstress,
as we'll find out in the next movie.
And yeah, he's chopped up to bits.
Blood and plastic everywhere.
And it ends with the silver in an ambulance.
Andy taken off by the cops.
He is in deep shit, because they are linking him

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to all of these murders and deaths so far.
And the funfair lights go out.
And that's the end.
And it's a good score as well.
I've always liked the score for the Chuckie movies.
And that's it.
So really fun ride.
But very rushed ending, really.
I wish there was a bit more in the funfair.
And as is often the case, you know, with some of these movies,

(01:44:39):
there's a lot happening,
but also it's not really saying much in the last act.
They're just rushing to the credits, really.
Obviously, you always get interference.
But if it was, let's say there was no interference,
we don't know anything about it.
If you like that from...
He's talking about the barber again with interfering.
No, producers in their notes.
Yes, I think in editing,

(01:45:01):
I do think you could probably look at it,
move some things around and get some beats going on a bit more.
And work with it a little bit more.
And I think it might work a little bit better.
Maybe in script it's cool.
And maybe then they struggle to shoot some stuff
and run out of time or something.
For me, it doesn't hit, you know.

(01:45:22):
Let's not forget that Don Mancini was pressuring into writing this
before the second film had even been released.
You know, it was filmed, but it hadn't quite been released,
so he'd already stopped writing this.
So already script isn't really in a good way.
Yeah, and he felt he rushed it,
but he was paying a lot of money probably to do it.
So it's what it is.

(01:45:43):
Yeah, but it's a shame that money has to be the thing that changes
how good things could be.
I think the film did all right.
It did okay.
In the UK, it was doing okay.
It was on sky quite a lot until the James Bolger case.
I do have some notes on that very briefly.
Some of it were covered, but I did make some quick notes,
which I'll just very quickly whizz through.
So yeah, the movie was the centre of a tabloid panic

(01:46:06):
in the United Kingdom with the Sun newspaper
demanding all existing copies of the film be burned.
The journalists claim that the film had influenced
two tenured boys in the murder of a young good child.
What about the Sun newspaper?
I know they claim that two tenured boys had been influenced by the film
and killed two-year-old James Bolger,
which is fucking tragic, man.
They're just fucking selling papers.
It was later determined that neither of the kids

(01:46:28):
had actually even seen the film,
and there's also a myth that the film was banned in the UK
following this controversy.
Yeah, like I thought it was.
The BBFC never actually banned the film,
but the widespread panic over the film
and over the James Bolger case led to most video retailers
withdrawing the title from their shelves,
and Sky TV pulled it from their TV channel.

(01:46:51):
Canal Plus did the same in Spain.
The movie led to legislation that enforced additional age restrictions
on certain video films, which is quite rare in the UK,
and you couldn't really get this film again then,
after a while, until 2000 in the UK,
when it was released on DVD,
by which time all the controversy was largely forgotten.

(01:47:13):
Well, it's tabloids fucking rolled up.
I'm just going to give a little trigger warning
for this next little note, just because there's some bits in it.
Nothing too detailed,
but the film is widely thought to have been banned, like I say,
and some of the reasons for this were it was because in 1993,
James Bolger was abducted by two 10-year-old boys

(01:47:35):
who took him to a railway line, tortured and killed him.
So people link that to what happens in the ghost train
at the end of this.
It was alleged that the two boys had watched the film
and re-enacted the violence,
especially the paintball scene where they splash,
because they splashed James Bolger blasts him with paint as well.
So the Sun newspaper basically put all these things together

(01:48:00):
and decided it was Child's Play 3 that was the reason for this,
which is insane.
But the police investigated over 200 films
that one of the boys dad had in his collection.
They even looked at everything he'd rented
over the last couple of years,
and he'd rented Child's Play 3 just a few months prior to the murder.
Because they think the kids have watched everything that he has,
so they had to check.
They're just trying to figure out why two 10-year-old boys would do this.

(01:48:23):
Yeah, but that's looking for something.
That's looking and going, "Oh, this movie's got that.
What old waste of time?"
The two boys hadn't even heard of Child's Play 3,
let alone seen it, and actually said, "We don't like horror films."
So there was no link narrative.
It's a horrible case, and I suggest you don't look into it,

(01:48:44):
because what they did to the kid was horrendous.
And in fact, they never found any film that was directly linked to their actions.
So further shitting on the whole "Videonasty" controversy from 10 years before,
there isn't really a link.
There are going to be a few links, as we'll look at in Word of the Strange,
but there isn't really a huge link between people watching terrible things

(01:49:07):
and then wanting to re-enact them.
It's a tiny percentage.
Those people have already got something pretty wrong with their brain.
So, yeah.
I just wanted to mention those notes really, because this film is quite, you know,
it's known for that in the UK.
Yeah.
But yeah, there we go.
That's Child's Play 3.
A High Strangers Podcast, which I do with Sarah,
which you all know about, because I've said about it before,

(01:49:29):
but if you do want to get into the mind of serial killers and stuff,
we do do that, but I would never cover that case,
because it's not a nice one.
Yeah.
I know people that have read the book, and I've heard snippets of stuff,
but I don't want to know what they did.
I did go down a bit of a rabbit hole once.
And the thing is, especially now I'm a dad, and my children are too,
and Jamie Bolger was too.

(01:49:50):
It's just too heartbreaking really to think about.
Those kids went on to, they went into prison,
and one of them is now a convicted paedopharm, back in prison.
Yeah, he came out, and anyway, let's not get into that.
Let's not get into that.
Thumbs up for me. Big thumbs up.
In fact, it's my favourite of the franchise.
You, however, even after talking to me, you are saying...
I'm going to have to wait.

(01:50:12):
I'll tell you what, I'm going to have to wait until we finish all of these films
before I can say, you know, which is my favourite.
At the moment, I'm going to go, because I can't remember them.
I really enjoyed the original.
The original is fantastic.
This movie, I'm going to give it a thumbs down.
I apologise.
I only give it a thumbs up to completists.
Otherwise, I don't think Bob will skip this.

(01:50:34):
Go on to, Brod.
Fair enough. Fair enough. Well, there we go.
I do apologise if you've got fondness for this movie
and nostalgia for this stuff.
I'm looking at it at 2024 really, you know, and that's my thoughts.
Well, there we go. Well, talking of dolls,
Bill Murray's just walked in with a couple of Barbie dolls under his arm.
I don't know what's going on there.

(01:50:56):
Where have you been? Have you been partying again with Barbie dolls?
The Barbie premiere? That was ages ago. No, you haven't.
You haven't been there in absolute form.
Why have you been there? Why have their heads chopped off?
That's weird.
That's really odd, isn't it?
Well, Bill Murray's here, which means it's time for World of the Strange.
It is.
The strangest man in the world, Bill Murray,

(01:51:18):
please lead us into World of the Strange.
Hi, welcome back to World of the Strange.
World of the Strange.
World of the Strange.

(01:51:42):
It's a strange world.
Strange world.
Thanks, Bill. You're weirdo.
So, World of the Strange.
Tell it as it is. Come on.
Don't listen to him.
He's giving the thumbs up. He knows he's weird.
He's drunk.
He said he's really looking forward to Ghostbusters.
That's what it is. He knows.

(01:52:03):
Yes, so for this World of the Strange segment, for this episode,
linking in with what we just briefly chatted about with the real-life incident
that was trying to be pinned on the chance play three film,
I thought it'd be interesting, not fun,
but interesting to take a look at some horror movies
that have genuinely inspired real-life crime.

(01:52:24):
So, this is delving into your other podcast world a bit, Gav, here.
I do apologise for stepping on yours and Sarah's tutsies.
But, yeah, this is real-life true crime.
No, that's fine. I can put my true crime podcast in hat.
So, I'll be Sarah in this.
Okay.
Don't worry, Sarah. I'm not doing anything silly.
And I'm certainly not wearing a bra.

(01:52:46):
Now, yes, so let's start with one of Gav's absolute favourites.
Let's start with Scream. Scream 1996.
There we go.
So, in 2002, a tragic incident unfolded in France
when a 17-year-old secondary school student
brutally stabbed a 15-year-old girl 17 times.

(01:53:08):
She is.
Yeah.
After being questioned by the police, he admitted he's obsessed with Scream.
Oh, no.
And he wanted to copy the actions he'd seen.
That's what he said, actions he'd seen in the film.
He wanted to influence young people in the same way that the ghost face had.

(01:53:29):
So, people were then worried.
The French authorities were worried about Scream,
and they were considering banning it.
Sure.
They did it at the end.
The trouble is with this, obviously, we're not obviously getting into it.
And what you need to do with all these cases, really, is to get in-depth into the head
and go back to the beginning.

(01:53:50):
And obviously, we won't be doing that today.
I don't have a right.
So, it's hard to know why, because obviously, we're like,
well, what other things was this young chap doing before he did this?
Do you know what I mean? What was the build-up, et cetera, et cetera?
Yes.
Because I don't want to be an advocate,
I definitely don't want to be an advocate of the horror movies

(01:54:11):
cause people to kill people.
But, if they've got, like you say, mentally, something's not correct,
things could influence, I imagine.
What I would say is, these sort of incidences are never the first time someone's done something like this.
As you know from your other show, and as we know from watching lots of true crime and stuff,

(01:54:33):
there's always stuff in someone's past.
And then, something like this, yes, okay, it might be the first time they've really done something,
but I guarantee this guy would have done something to animals.
Yeah, exactly.
A possible head injury.
That kind of stuff.
Yeah.
So, there's your first one, Scream, naughty naughty.
Now, let's talk about The Purge, the original Purge movie.

(01:54:55):
There were three murders linked to this film in 2016.
Not surprised, honestly, not surprised.
You can imagine someone, obviously the country of America has guns and stuff, and people have access to guns,
but you can imagine some people angry, people would be like, "Oh man, this movie's incredible.

(01:55:17):
This is exactly what I'd love to do. I wish we could do that."
And then the ones who are a little bit more extreme than that are like,
"Who are going to do what you're about to say?"
Yeah.
Well, this is in Indianapolis.
So, a gentleman, we'll call him, called Jonathan Cruz,
committed robbery and then killed three individuals on one night in 2016,

(01:55:38):
and he said, "I was inspired by The Purge,"
which, as we all know, is one night of every year where anything goes.
I do like the concept of it.
The movies don't do it for me.
I did watch the first season of the TV show, and it kind of got into it more for me,
because I wanted to see the whole wide world, rather than...
I liked the first one, and I think the second one.

(01:56:01):
Is that the one that's a bit of like the punisher in it, the guy that's going around?
Possibly.
I can't remember.
I think the first one is the best one.
Yeah, I do like the isolation, but I do like to see the whole world of what's happening outside.
Yeah, he also, they looked at his social media activity,
and saw that he'd been saying, "I think The Purge should be made real.

(01:56:23):
I really like this idea. Maybe we should push for the government to do this for real."
See? See?
How many more people had that for, but obviously just didn't actually go ahead?
So, yeah, these actions led to discussions about the impact of unregulated media
on individuals who may have criminal tendencies.

(01:56:44):
So, social media as well, you know, people can air their views willy-nilly,
and it's all a bit weird, but yeah, this guy killed three people and did a house robbery,
just because he thought, "Wow, I'm in a movie!"
Yeah.
Good stuff.
Let's move on to Freddie, Nightmare on Elm Street.
What? Someone's dreams?

(01:57:07):
This is something that happened in, I think, 2006.
So, Daniel Gonzalez, also known as the Freddie Kruger killer,
had an unhealthy obsession with the original classic slasher of Nightmare on Elm Street.
He boasted about committing murders inspired by Freddie.

(01:57:29):
This is in London and Sussex in the United Kingdom.
He attacked six people.
What year, sorry, was this?
2006.
Wow.
He attacked six people, killing four of them, and he said,
"My crimes are the best things I've ever accomplished."
Oh, my God.
He said, "I'm like Freddie Kruger. He's my hero, and I wish I could be more and more like him."

(01:57:54):
He said, "I've got an alter ego called Zippy."
Now, for anyone from the United Kingdom,
there was a children's television show called Rainbow, which had some puppets in it.
One of them was a pink, gay hippopotamus called George,
and he had a friend called Zippy who was like an orange blob who had a mouth with a zip on it,

(01:58:19):
and whenever he got to a mouth, he did zip him up.
So, for this gentleman to have his killer alter ego as Zippy
just makes me think of that puppet.
Yeah.
But they held him in a psychiatric facility, and eventually he took his own life.
Oh, well, he obviously wasn't enjoying the world of his head.

(01:58:42):
He may now be living on in other people's nightmares and dreams
if he really wants to be like his hero, Freddie.
Sorry, I missed this. Did he actually kill anyone?
Yeah, he attacked six people and killed four of them.
Right, so what was his method?
It doesn't actually say.
I think he used razor blades and knives, but I don't think he would have said it.

(01:59:04):
He called himself the Freddy Krueger Killer.
Oh, for fuck's sake, when these cunts killed him,
he'd give themselves fucking monikers.
I'm the zodiac.
Fuck off.
I'm Zippy.
Yeah.
Hell, Zippy. Zippy.
There we go.
Right, moving on then to child's play from 1988.

(01:59:26):
Now, this isn't the one that we've already talked about.
There is another incident that's linked to this.
I don't know if you know about this.
Have you heard about the second incident?
No. What, for the original?
Yeah, for the original.
So in Manchester, what year was this?
Let me just have a look.
It's worse.
So this is Manchester in England, of course.

(01:59:48):
This was in 1992.
So four years after the movie came out.
So Manchester, England, a teenager called Suzanne,
I won't say her full name, she was only 16,
and she was kidnapped, tortured and murdered by a gang of four people in 1982.
One of her captors, one of her kidnappers,

(02:00:09):
tortured her with the words, "Jucky's coming to play.
"Jucky's coming to play."
Over and over again.
Before she died of her injuries,
they put headphones on her and blasted 150 volts into her ears,
the line, "Hi, I'm Chucky.
"Wanna play over and over and over again?"

(02:00:31):
Really?
At maximum volume.
How did they know that she said this to her?
Because they've all admitted to it,
and they found the headphones with the tape afterwards.
So at maximum volume, they played that into her ears while they tortured her.
They were inspired by snuff and true crime films.

(02:00:52):
They had a stash of snuff films.
No, they didn't.
There's never ever been a snuff film.
A real one.
Obviously, there is videos on the internet.
I imagine you could see something.
But there wasn't ever snuff videos,
especially videos.

(02:01:14):
I've seen one, a real one.
An infamous one of a guy...
I can't remember his name now.
It's quite a famous case of a guy who lured another guy back to his apartment
and then basically chopped him up,
filmed it all and did stuff with the hands and stuff like that.
And I was watching it thinking, "This can't be real."

(02:01:36):
I was watching it because I didn't think it was real,
but it's actually been confirmed as real.
And it's on the internet somewhere, you can find it.
It's really not nice.
Yes, so they had a big collection of true crime films,
what they thought were snuff films,
and they said they were really inspired by video nasties, slashes,
and they loved child's play, the original child's play film.

(02:01:59):
That's not good for the horror community.
So this poor girl had her last words with Brad Derriff
over and over again at full volume in her ears.
Do I know how Brad Derriff feels about that?
Yeah, not great, I should imagine.
But he still made a bunch of these movies, so that's fine.
That's great.
Let's talk about Saul.
We've covered Saul and our torture porn special.

(02:02:22):
I want to play a game.
You need to decide if life is worth living for.
Said the prank phone call that Beverly Dixon received in 2007.
This was accompanied by instructions about her having to find a key
to free her friend who was trapped somewhere in her house,

(02:02:45):
and the message claimed your house will be filled with toxic gas
unless you find this key as soon as possible.
But that's obviously bullshit.
A pair of 13-year-old girls were actually responsible for the prank call,
which they said was inspired by the original Saul movie,
in which a killer forced people to do horrible things.
So did this woman stand and go, "What? Right, oh my God, Jane, where are you?"

(02:03:13):
There's toxic gas in here somewhere if I don't find you.
Toxic gas is coming in somehow soon.
Yeah, that's kind of the story really.
These two girls were caught, they were given a severe telling off,
and Saul was in the headlines for a little bit,
but probably a bit of good press, you know?
Because no one actually died this time, just silly people, you know?

(02:03:36):
The least they could have done is try and do the voice or something, you know?
Imagine two 13-year-old girls up, phoning you up saying,
"How did they lock their friends in your house?"
"How did they lock a friend in the cupboard?"
They didn't. There was no friend there, they just made it up.
So basically, we just heard a friend out about one afternoon,

(02:03:57):
some kids watched that movie and their mum came home and they fucking
made a prank phone call on her.
Yeah, they did about a Simpson.
Okay.
Silly, silly girls.
It's a little less severe than the girl who was torched at the moment ago.
Yes, yeah.
Well, let's talk about natural-born killers from 1994,

(02:04:20):
an Oliver Stone movie, very, very, very violent film, great film.
So even worse than the real-life crime spree that inspired natural-born killers,
because obviously it was based on a real-life crime spree,
the movie then, in turn, became the inspiration for school shootings in the late 90s.
Oh, no.
This includes the frontier middle school shooting in 1996,

(02:04:44):
in which a 14-year-old opened fire on his whole classroom,
killing two students and their teacher.
And that was because he was obsessed with the movie and wanted to emulate it.
Natural-born killers has also been directly linked to the Columbine High School shooting,
in which two students shot and killed their teacher and 12 classmates, horrendous.

(02:05:06):
So these incidents have now prompted time to a security motion in schools,
including metal detectors, which continue to this day.
And as a result of these connections, natural-born killers has become notorious
for supposedly inciting violence in America's youth.
It is one of those films that people say, "Well, don't let your kids see it."
But again, it's kind of good publicity for the film,

(02:05:28):
but it's terribly tragic for the people that have genuinely been inspired by it.
You know, it's weird to be inspired by these things. Why?
Kids are still, imagine, getting guns at times into school, though, aren't they?
Yeah, they're smuggling stuff in.
I mean, there's a school shooting literally every fortnight in the U.S., isn't there?
Or a mass shooting of some kind.

(02:05:50):
Yeah, I'm sure.
It's crazy, really.
Unfortunately, it will never change you.
It's so sad. So sad.
Well, let's talk about The Exorcist from 1973.
Go on then.
Psychologist Dr Leon Morris says,
"Cinematic trauma is the reason why Patricia Fraser

(02:06:12):
"not only killed her own four-year-old daughter,
"but also cut out her heart."
According to the doctor, his interactions with the woman revealed
that she suffered from paranoid schizophrenia.
And she watched The Exorcist on television,
and that prompted her to act on her illusions,

(02:06:34):
thinking that her daughter was possessed by the devil.
She killed her four-year-old daughter and cut out her heart
and claimed to have done it in order to save the world from demons.
Fucking hell.
And this case is not the only violently disturbing incident
that's been linked to this film.
What happened to the lady?
Prison.

(02:06:55):
Well, I hope the mental hospital.
I should hope so.
A psychiatric ward. A hospital.
But that is a pretty brutal one, really.
But again, it's not the movie.
So it was already, she was already unwell.
If it hadn't been that that triggered her,
it would have been sank out.

(02:07:16):
She could have even watched a religious program.
Yeah, it could have been anything, really.
It could have been anything.
She might have watched Indiana Jones,
where he takes his heart out.
It could have been anything.
But that's an awful one, really.
It is, unfortunately, yeah.
More, quite possibly, the child might have also had the same issues.
But not that it makes that any better.

(02:07:39):
That should never be done.
So.
Well, I've got two more.
The next one is a film that I believe your Sarah is obsessed with.
And I know I think you like it.
And I'm talking about Warlock.
Oh, yeah, she did.
She did sound interesting, please.
She does like it.
I can't really remember it, to be honest with you.
1989.

(02:08:01):
I think we watched it, Sarah and I, possibly.
I think she'll be showing it.
She'll have another phone now saying, "We've watched it."
Oh, I probably did.
Well, after seeing the film Warlock,
a minimum of 10 times a day.
Is it Sarah?
Over the days leading up to him committing a ritualistic murder.

(02:08:26):
Blimey.
14-year-old Sandy.
If I walk into Daisy's room, Daisy's quite around that age,
if I walk in there and she's watching the same movie,
it's every time I go in, I'm going to be like,
"What's going on with this film?"
And you, I would have to dialogue.
10 times a day is quite a lot to watch a film.

(02:08:49):
You would notice.
He claims, so this 14-year-old Sandy Charles claimed to police,
he acted on behalf of some spirits.
The defence attorney said that Charles killed a seven-year-old boy,
cut strips of his flesh off, boiled it into fat,

(02:09:10):
in hopes that it would turn him into the son of the devil.
Ugh.
And that was because he'd seen a similar ritual murder happen in Warlock,
which he watched 10 times a day for a couple of weeks
leading up to him finally thinking, "Right, well, we're going to do this."
It's in my brain now.

(02:09:33):
So that's Warlock.
You never thought a Julian Sands movie would be on this list, did you?
No.
The last movie I'm going to talk about, which inspired a real-life crime,
is a movie that not many people talk about.
I quite enjoyed the first one.
It's called The Collector.
Yeah, I've not seen it.
But this is the 1965 Collector.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(02:09:54):
I used to have this on videotape.
And I think I did watch it and it was okay.
Maybe.
Yeah, it's all right.
So, Robert Brodella, known as the Kansas City Butcher,
gained infamy as a serial killer and sex offender in the 1980s.
Operating in Kansas City, he targeted young men
and subjected them to extreme acts of torture and violence in his home.

(02:10:18):
His crimes included sexual assault,
drugging and murder.
He meticulously documented his acts in a diary,
a very, very detailed diary, which obviously the police found
when he was arrested in 1988.
He was convicted of multiple counts of murder
and sentenced to life in prison.
And whilst in custody, he explained,

(02:10:39):
"I've been inspired by the film adaptation of the novel The Collector.
I'm really into it."
And the whole film obviously centres around a man
who's been happening and torturing women for his collection.
So, yeah, that's the last one on the list.
Wow.
Okay.
Some crazy stuff on there.
I think one of the most shocking ones is either the poor girl
who had the child's play thing in her ear,

(02:11:02):
or the bloody woman who's watched The Exorcist.
Yeah.
But I think what I would say, Gav, as we've already said,
is these people already are unwell.
And I think it could be anything that triggers them.
Not necessarily a horror film.
It could be an action film.
It could be Rambo.
There's going to be people that have watched Die Hard or Rambo
and thought, "I'm going to become a one-man army

(02:11:24):
and take on my whole school because everyone bullies me."
All of these things can trigger, you know?
Yeah, definitely social.
You're thinking yourself as a social outcast
or things like this or your bullied or that sort of stuff.
Definitely, you're sitting there with anger.
Then anything is like, it could be a talk show

(02:11:46):
or TV show, a daily TV show, I was saying.
And so if you've got this, you should fight back.
Or even an advert, anything could give you that instinct
to go, "Right, that's what I'm going to do."
And unfortunately, these films did for these people.
Yeah.
Pretty shocking stuff, really.
Yeah.
There we go.
Well, that was a sad one today, guys.
Yeah.

(02:12:07):
Well, what are the strange?
You know, it's a strange world.
Sometimes it's funny and people dying by having sex with horses
or whatever it is.
But this time around, it's a real life tragedy.
Don't do that.
These things are horrible.
We've covered that on this show and you've covered that on your show.
And Sarah's projected you do that.
Why do people keep doing it to me?
Yeah.

(02:12:28):
Sorry about that.
Bill, help me, Bill.
Bill, I think you should take us out of here
before we are inspired by Ghostbusters
to become Paranormal Busters.
Let's get out of here.
That's all the time we've got for this week on World of the Strange.
Next week, though.

(02:12:50):
Gimme iron.
Hairless pets.
Weird.
[SIREN WAILING]
[SCREAMS]

(02:13:19):
[SIREN WAILING]
Well, hello, darling.
[SCREAMING]

(02:13:46):
Chucky's back.
But this time, there's more to fear.
Because this time, he's got a playmate of his own.
Bride of Chucky.

(02:14:08):
Chucky gets lucky.
Boring.
Eat your heart out.
[SIREN WAILING]
Bride of Chucky.

(02:14:34):
From 1998, 18.
Hour and 29 minutes.
But different if you're streaming it or DVD.
Ridiculous, the DVD's slower.
Anyway, Chucky, the doll possessed by a serial killer,
discovers the perfect mate to kill
and revive into the body of another doll.
I like this one.

(02:14:56):
It's directed by Ronnie Yu, who is directed a lot of--
he's a Chinese director.
He's directed some really good Chinese movies,
particularly the bride with white hair is a good one.
He's got horror elements in it.
I'm a big fan of Freddie versus Jason.
Yeah, he really got into--
Oh, he did the 51st date.
How random.

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He's really broken into the Hollywood for a while,
at least anyway.
This was back when John Woo and other foreign directors--
No, he's gone back.
I don't think he really liked the system.
Well, he hasn't directed anything since 2013.

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But I don't think he really liked the Hollywood system either.
I can't blame him.
This is fun though, and he's definitely put a real fun,
fresh spin on the whole Chucky,
and definitely set it off in a course where it's still at now.
And he did the same with Freddie versus Jason,
because there were times where that--
Yeah, he made that fresh again.

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Both of them, really, for doing that whole thing.
Yeah, and it's a bit cartoony, but fun,
and still very gory at times.
This film is very meta and self-referential,
but also refers to a lot of other horror movies as well.
And you really feel like this franchise

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has really found its feet on this one, don't you?
Yeah, Chucky has a moment, and he says--
I can't remember what he says exactly,
but he's saying sometimes it has to take part three
or part four to actually get it right and start it again, or whatever.
No, he says if this was a movie franchise,
it'd take a good two or three episodes before we got to this.

(02:16:46):
No, he says a third off, or three or four, I think.
And obviously, this is a fourth movie.
At some point, Jennifer Tilly also says to him,
"Stabbing with a knife, that's so 1980s."
So there's just loads of stuff in there,
and somebody looks at the Chucky doll and says,
"Oh, my God, these things are big in the '80s.
No one cares about them now.
It's not 1988 anymore," and all that kind of stuff.

(02:17:08):
So yeah, there's some interesting stuff in there.
But I do like the fact that Chucky calls out,
you have to start fresh again in his class and sort of part four,
the one they're actually in is the start again.
And there's some stoner humour in this, which we'll get to as well.
And again, like you said in our intro to this episode,
this came out in the middle of the screen

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and all those movies that were coming out in the late '90s,
and you can really feel that vibe.
There's a bit of a polish to them.
There's a young, hot teenage cast.
And yeah, that stoner comedy and Marilyn Manson
and Rob Zombie soundtrack.
A lot of stuff to like about this one.

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I'm reading about Don Manson again, so like, interesting,
but he would have been, and you know what it's like
if any of the major sort of films are made by studios,
it's just what it is, and you're going to have them looking
at the numbers and looking at what's cool and what's not.
And saying like, incorporate this, incorporate this,
but sometimes these things work well with the right people

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and right hands.
And this director and writer of combos sort of done that
and made this a real fun movie.
Obviously it's quite a few more years later from the last one.
So the styling of the films, a lot more,
or modern, should we say, now if we're looking at it,
where the other one felt a lot more almost '80s, like I said, you know.
And what's fantastic is this is the introduction of a new character

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to the franchise, really, other than Andy Barkley.
Jennifer Tilly plays Tiffany.
A good choice really, like, you know, there's going to be people here
for her boobs, you know, there's loads of people.
Daisy, I told Daisy what I was doing.
I said, "I'm going to do this."
She goes, "I love Tiffany. She's amazing.

(02:18:54):
She's like my idol."
And it's just like completely, I want to be her.
And I said, "Well, probably maybe not the serial killer.
If you could try not to do that, that'd be good."
I've always people would be saying, "Podcasts are a bad thing.
You shouldn't listen to them. You might kill people."
She ended up on a list on Word of the Strange.
Weird. How meta.
Or we'll be on someone else's list.
Hopefully not.

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Yeah, so like, it's a real icon.
They've literally just made this real fun, goth icon
that listens to white zombie.
Like I said, large breasts, attractive ladies.
All like kids, teenage boys, teenage girls.
They've all got a fancy hair.
Loads of people fancy.

(02:19:38):
She's got a massive demographic in that sense.
She kicks ass. She's kind of a bit weird.
She's a bit out there. She's a bit goth.
She matches Chuckie.
She's mental and I'd never have her as a girlfriend.
I'll tell you that.
She matches Chuckie's psychotic nature.
Absolutely.
And especially when she's a doll as well, you know.
And it's great because you've got the yin and the yang.
And they're like Bonnie and Clyde.

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They're like Mickey and Mallory.
But at the same time though, he's an asshole to her.
He treats her horribly.
She's just like, "Yeah, this is a bad idea."
She comes to realise in the film.
Yeah.
So, you know, anyway.
And then he has to be a dick and make her turn into dolls.
You don't even want that.
So, again, the whole way at the time,

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Chuckie's like a domestic abuser in it.
Yeah.
Well, he's not a very nice guy.
No.
And she realises that.
And she says in the film,
"Why can't I just meet nice guys?"
I think it's because you're a lunatic.
That's probably why.
Anyway.
He doesn't want to get into the boy's soul in this one, does he?
Should we get into it?
Let's get into the boy's soul.

(02:20:44):
No!
So, start the film.
It's night time and it's raining.
And obviously, it's a play on the Bride of Frankstein.
Yes.
There was a lot of that in there, in fact.
And it's such a fun idea.
If Dominicine was sitting there,
he'd watch Scream and all that stuff going,
"How could I make this sort of fun movie like thing?
What could I do?"

(02:21:05):
It's been like, "Oh, maybe he was sitting there watching
Bride of Frankstein."
I went, "Chuckie needs a bride."
You know, that lightning bolt.
That fucking light bulb, sorry.
And just very quickly on that, at one point,
Jennifer Tilly is watching Bride of Frankstein,
and then her final lines.
It's actually playing right this second,

(02:21:26):
IMDb right now in the bathtub.
That clip just played.
Amazing.
And her final lines in the movie are from Bride of Frankstein as well,
which we covered for a Valentine special many years back.
A very good show.
We'll get back and check it out.
So yeah, night time rain.
We're in an evidence lock-up.
Police evidence lock-up.
Someone's in there.

(02:21:48):
Walking along.
What do you think is the case?
The studio's just had it.
I think it's Universal.
Yeah, of course it is, because they played Bride of Frankstein.
Universal, just like, what can we do?
What property can we put out?
Because it's quite a few years later,
and it's not like because the last one was hot property,
because it must have lost money with, like,
England's decline in rentals.

(02:22:10):
You know, why do you think they thought,
I guess, the studio's going, "What can we do?
What can we remake? What can we sequel?"
Like, you always do.
Yes, and horror was hot again in the late '90s.
So they could go, "What have we got with properties that we own?"
Yeah.
And we could bring them back.
What can we refresh for the new generation even, you know?

(02:22:33):
Let's get the guy who did '51st '80.
Okay.
Oh, no, he did it after this.
Great movie.
So, walking through this evidence lock-up,
we also, in the background, see Jason's mask,
Michael Myers mask.
With Freddy's glove.
Oh, I didn't know it was any of this.
Leatherplaces, chainsaw, and the crates from the creep show

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are all in this evidence lock.
What?
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
So we're following this cop, and he looks in a locker
that says, "Unsolved case on it," and inside is a bag,
and he doesn't know what's in this bag.
He takes the bag out, gets in his car,
and he calls someone on the phone.
It's all very mysterious and rainy and dark and stuff.

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And a sexy lady's voice.
A sexy voice.
Straight away, though, I'm more interested in this film
than the last one.
Sorry.
She says, "I've got what you asked for, and I'm on my way."
And it's Tiff.
It's Tiffany.
And he wants to look in the bag.
He really wants to look in the bag.
And he eventually peeks in.

(02:23:38):
But we don't see what's in there initially.
Because before he can really see what it is,
Jennifer Tilly shows up behind him and slits his throat.
Tiff, Tiff, Tiff.
You naughty girl.
Exactly. Definitely not girlfriend material.
Now, do you know that Jennifer Tilly is very good at poker?

(02:23:59):
I didn't. Oh, yes, I did know that.
Yeah, she's been on poker, that program,
where all the famous people play poker.
Well, she has a world series of poker,
WSOP in a gold bracelet, which is quite a thing.
In addition to that,
she is inducted into the woman in Poker Hall of Fame

(02:24:20):
as part of the Class of 2022.
So, would you poker?
My girlfriend will be listening.
Funny enough, I asked the same thing to her.
She's made over a million from poker.
Good. Amazing.
Anyway, Jennifer Tilly.

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She's got a hell of a voice, hasn't she?
Yeah, yeah. She's quite a character.
She is perfectly cast for this film.
Yeah, she's brilliant.
You never know what she's going to play, really,
but you know she's going to probably be slightly unhinged
in whatever film she's in.
She's incredibly sexy.
She's got that voice that says,

(02:25:03):
"I smoke 100 cigarettes a day, but it's still quite sexy."
But yeah, she can look all sweet and innocent,
or she can slit your throat.
You know, she's just great.
And yeah, you're right, she's perfect in this.
And, you know, perfect.
The design for the Tiffany doll is perfect as well.
You know, because although it's not ready,
it doesn't really look really much like her.

(02:25:25):
It's not really supposed to. It's a doll.
And the voice just suits a doll.
Yeah, Jackie does not look like Brad DeRiff, so yeah.
I think God already did freak running around.
So yes, this cop's been, he's had his throat slit.
Jennifer Tilley looks inside the bag and says,
"Hello, Dolly."
And we get some, I'm not sure if it's Rob Zombie playing,

(02:25:49):
or Marilyn Manson.
It's White Zombie.
White Zombie, that's what I meant, sorry.
But it is Rob Zombie, but his band is Zombie.
It's a very apt song. It's Living Dead Girl.
Yeah, Living Dead Girl.
And that's the kickstart of the credits.
So we get to see lots of clippings of the previous films,
newspaper clippings of all these murders that have happened,

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Charles Lee Ray, Andy Barkley.
She has loads of dolls.
She's got a big doll collection, hasn't she?
She's got this like mobile home, like a trailer.
But like, it's ridiculously huge at one point.
She just has this massive bathroom with just a bath in it.
It's like, this is huge.

(02:26:31):
You've, space wise, I don't know how you've done this.
It's like the TARDIS.
It's just incredible.
It's not like Eminem's trailer on Eight Mile,
where it's just like a bed.
Yeah, which is like most of them.
Yeah, this is like incredible.
Yeah, well, you know, if you win poker enough,
you can buy a fantastic trailer again.

(02:26:52):
I guess so.
So while all this is going on,
she is sewing this doll back together.
And this is the doll, this is the Chucky doll from the last movie,
which obviously got sliced and diced and a big fan.
She sews it all back together
and she staples its face back on.
With Jennifer Tilly in her character she's playing,

(02:27:14):
she just brings like a whole new alternative and goth
fan base to the film.
Totally.
And this is like a real, this is all that,
white zombie Marilyn Manson.
Right in that time, it was hot as fuck.
Yeah.
So yeah, she basically staples the doll's face back on,

(02:27:35):
sews it all back together and there we go.
That's the deal.
Then, knock on the door.
Sarah hated this guy.
So this is Alexis Arquette.
And his tattoos.
I mean, he was a them, he was a he then.

(02:27:57):
Right.
You know, I believe, I don't think he's a they/them now.
I think he's a she/she now.
Really?
Yeah, Alexis Arquette now.
But yeah, it really wants to be Marilyn Manson,
this boyfriend of hers, Damien.
His tattoos.
Oh my God.
Yeah, and he's got all the piercings.

(02:28:18):
You know, and he's really into the whole goth stuff.
And he sort of shows up at her trailer and he's.
Oh yeah.
But we'll see more of him in a minute because we just very
quickly meet our young, sexy goodies in this film.
John, and I'm not talking about John Ritter,

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who is in this, is Chief Warren.
So John Ritter is the uncle in this to Jade.
He looks after Jade.
And Jade's got a boyfriend called David.
Sorry, not David, Jesse.
And they have a gay friend called David,
who they hang out with.

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And Warren.
He's the beard, isn't he?
Yes, he is.
Because he knocks on the door and says,
I'm here to take her out.
And he's like, I don't believe you.
And it's because she's actually banging Jesse.
He's like a stud who lives in a trailer next door
to Jennifer Silly.
We find out.
The woman is Seth Rogen knocks up.
Catherine, are you?

(02:29:21):
Yes.
It knocked up.
Yeah, indeed.
Hence saying that way.
There you go.
Basically, it's not.
It's her, his step-door niece.
Yeah.
He fucking hates her.
He would do anything like a sad little shit he is.
Chief of police as well.
Surely you should be doing other stuff.

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He hates her so much.
He won't ever do anything.
Yeah, he doesn't want to do anything nice for her either.
He's a real tackle-berry when it comes to the rule.
Tackle-berry?
Tackle-berry is not his person.
He's a fucking...
Yeah, I suppose.
He's a...
What's the chief?
Police Academy.
Mauser.
Yeah, Mauser or Harris.
Oh, that's Captain Harris actually, isn't it?

(02:30:04):
Yeah.
But he's like Captain Harris.
He's like more like Captain Harris.
Fuck that!
Fucking great you feel me.
You still do the police academy movies.
I'd do those movies.
It'd be funny just to do them for the fuck of it.
Fuck that!
'Cause the talk would be funny.
I used to shout out all the time at school, Proctor.

(02:30:26):
Yeah, so anyway, we established that he is overprotective to say the least.
He's the chief of police.
He's got all the police in his time.
But he doesn't actually care about her though.
That's the weird thing.
He just doesn't want her to date anyone.
He wouldn't do anything or have any fun.
Yeah, he just wants to be in control.
Indeed.
And they drive off and they get immediately pulled over by one of his cronies

(02:30:49):
who then makes them stand out in the rain and questions what they're doing,
which actually breathalyses them.
Anyway, we'll come back to that in a minute because Tiffany's in her trailer
and she's got this pentagram on the floor that she's created out.
A massive kitchen.
Yeah, in her giant kitchen, in her tiny trailer.
And she starts chanting the ritual, you know, give me the power I beg of you

(02:31:11):
by the power of great school.
Nothing happens.
There's no, or she thinks nothing happens.
Oh, damn it.
I tried to get Charles back in this doll, but nothing.
I like the fact that she has a dinner table set for two.
All knee out, like Chuckies could come out and go,
"Hmm, I just for dinner and there's a little doll who's going to sit there
and just have a dinner.
How are you?

(02:31:32):
All right, how are you?
All right.
Oh, what a day today.
Really?
Yeah.
Is that going to happen?
A murderer in her little doll is going to sit and have dinner with you.
She's a wonderful woman who just wants to make her man happy.
Do you know who she reminds you of?
She reminds you of that little kid that the vampire is in the last movie.
Oh, bless him.

(02:31:53):
Bless him.
Well, just when her ritual hasn't seemingly worked,
this is where Damien knocks on the door.
This is the guy that we talked about just now,
her boyfriend for the amount of months ago.
Chuckie would have his favorite meal.
I think spaghetti.
Well, his favorite meal is mentioned in this.
What is it?
Swedish meatballs.
She's had a major favorite Swedish meatballs.

(02:32:15):
There we go.
Meatballs and spaghetti.
It goes on spaghetti.
So Damien comes into her trailer and he says,
"Take a look at this Polaroid.
I killed someone today.
Look, I read a real mess of him."
He's like turned on immediately.
He's such a dweeb, isn't he?
And he's basically pretended.
He's made himself up and taken a picture of it.

(02:32:37):
Because she then says, "Hang on, I recognize that this is you.
You haven't killed someone."
Yes, it's bad tattoos.
And she basically has killed at least one person,
probably a lot more than the ones we've seen.
And he's trying to get into her knickers.
So he's pretending he's killed someone just because it turns out
they've never actually slept together.
Because he says, "When are we going to finally..."

(02:33:01):
And she says, "Right, okay, well, here's what we'll do."
And then just before she can say anything,
she realizes the doll's missing.
And she gets a bit excited.
She thinks, "Oh my God, it's worked."
So she handcuffs Damien to the bed.
She says, "Do you want to play a game?"
Yeah, she ties him up, handcuffs him to the bed,
and she starts doing a little sexy dance for him.

(02:33:23):
But she's plonked Chucky sitting on his chest.
So they're both looking forward.
And Chucky's watching her dance as well.
He says, "I remember these things.
They're so 80s, though.
But if it turns you on, then I'm into it."
And she's like, "Yeah, right.
When I check out my sexy dance."
So she does her sexy dance.
And she says, "There's something I've never told you about me."

(02:33:45):
Charles LeRae was my ex-boyfriend.
I used to live with him.
And we were going to get married.
And basically, he says, "Oh yeah, I heard about that guy.
Didn't he transport his soul into a doll and all that bullshit?"
It was an urban legend.
This is where the head spins around and says...

(02:34:07):
He says to her, "This guy couldn't satisfy you."
He says, "Oh, he's only a little doll."
And the head spins around and looks at him and says,
"It ain't the size, asshole.
It's what you do with it."
And he sort of screams.
He rips his lip ring out.
That looks painful, doesn't it?

(02:34:28):
Yeah.
Rips his lip ring out.
And then he just suffocates him with a pillow.
He does.
Just a classic, little classic suffocation murder there from Jackie.
Nice.
Nothing to, you know...
It's his first one in a while, so he wants to start, you know,
just a little suffocation, that sort.
And yeah, they hug.
She hugs the doll and that's that.

(02:34:51):
Cut back to the rain and our heroes are having their breath tested for alcohol.
And then John Ritter shows up.
And he says, the boyfriend, Jesse, says to him,
"You've done all of this just to stop us from going on a date.
You fuck."
And he says, "And you won't fuck her or anyone.

(02:35:12):
I'm going to make sure of that."
And he's like, "Well, you're talking about your niece.
Just let your niece get some."
It's Bolo.
It's just...
Come on.
You're being a bit much, really, aren't you?
He's very, very, very, very protective.
And he says, they say to him, "If we wanted to,
we could make your blood tests look like Christian Slater on New Year's Eve."

(02:35:37):
It must have been a thing of the time, I'm sure.
At the time, that must have been in the news.
Google it.
Christian Slater was a big, big fan of the white marching powder.
Yeah, I think I knew that.
But what happened on New Year's Eve?
Are they just saying he would be more partied out on New Year's Eve?
Oh, that's the night that you'd want to be out with Chris.

(02:36:00):
Imagine being out with Christian Slater and Nicolas Cage on New Year's Eve.
In, like, '91.
That would be amazing.
Making a scene.
Those two walking into a bar together.
Wasted.
Amazing stuff.
Bill Murray's in there, playing darts.
There must have been.
There's going to be a moment in time in a place in time.

(02:36:24):
At one point, there's just all of a sudden,
the most random amount of celebrities ever.
They didn't even know why.
They all just appeared to be in the same place somewhere on the world,
something, do you know what I mean?
They would have been.
There just would have been one time.
There's 17 different acts and stuff from around the world.
What are all celebrities?

(02:36:45):
What the fuck is going on?
Not a normal party, but a situation arose.
Because you sometimes see, like, photographs.
Randomist people.
Like, four people.
You're like, why are they in a room together?
That's the weirdest A-team ever.
I love it.
I love it when you see that, though, you know?
You just think, well, I don't know how they would have got in that situation
whether they're all together, but they've posed for a photo

(02:37:07):
and it's documented and I love them for that.
I don't know how we got into this, but anyway.
We're talking about Christian Slater and Uzi.
Oh, boy.
So, cutting back to Tiff, and she says,
I've made your favourite Swedish meatballs, Gav, you guessed it.
Yeah.
And then she says, you know,
I found the ring after you died.
And he's like, what ring?

(02:37:28):
You know, the ring.
The ring that you were going to use to propose to me.
And he goes, oh, no, that belonged to Veronica.
The brood that I killed.
I am glad you still got it.
It's worth about $6,000.
I wasn't going to propose to you.
He laughs at her.
And he laughs at her.
I think he calls her a dumb brood or something.
She starts to realise her decisions

(02:37:49):
and her actions are not the best thing to do.
Bring back a serial killer and a doll back to life.
She says you haven't changed.
I could have.
She could have asked me that.
I could have saved her a load of time and effort.
So, don't do it.
But she did suspect this was going to happen
because she says you've changed.
You haven't changed a bit.
Is that why she's got the crate?
Yeah.

(02:38:10):
So she locks him in a playpen, locks it.
It's a crate, pretty much.
And all it's got in it is some like kids toys.
And she basically says, you're so tiny, like a little baby.
And then she locks him in there
and basically she's going to torture him.
She tickles him, doesn't she?
Yeah.
And he's really annoyed because, you know,
he's the size of a child.
He can't do anything about it at the moment
until he gets out.

(02:38:32):
And then she goes off and has a good old cry
in the bed next to the dead body,
which I love.
Just the dead body's just there.
And she even takes the pillow off of his face
and then uses it to sort of lie on and cry a little bit.
It's pretty weird.
It's definitely not girlfriend material.
In the morning, Jesse, who lives next door to her,
who is Jade's boyfriend from the night before,

(02:38:55):
he sees her in the trailer part
and she's packing, she's got a huge trunk
that she can't move.
And he's a bit of a hunk this one.
He's got some muscles on him.
She saw him topless the other day
and she's quite fancy there.
And it's been...
Do you get a moment when, like I said,
where the fuck are you, Diviny?
Yeah.

(02:39:16):
So he helps her with the trunk,
which has actually got Damien's body inside him.
And he puts it in the car for her.
She says, oh, thank you.
I really appreciate that.
Would you like to go for a drink sometime?
And he's like, oh, I've got a girlfriend called Jade.
He is a fucking loyal guy
because if Jennifer Tilly asked you to go for a drink.
I don't know, man.
Well, Alice is generally quite jealous of you

(02:39:38):
and any woman.
So, like, that's if I'm...
Jennifer Tilly's coming to Bristol.
Watch out, Alice.
Oh, I wouldn't be worth it.
My balls would be destroyed.
Alice would be wearing them as earrings.
She would.
She would have murdered Jennifer Tilly.
As well.
Yeah.
I can't even talk to a woman sometimes.

(02:40:00):
No.
Yeah.
But there we go.
You know what she's like sometimes.
Yeah, it's weird.
It's fine.
I like that she's so protective of me.
Imagine if I was like a really super good looking guy
like Ryan Reynolds as well.
She'd be even worse.
She'd be committed murder.
She'd probably need medicine to help.

(02:40:21):
I'm glad she doesn't listen to the show.
Much.
Sometimes she does.
Love you, babe.
One day she'd go back through them.
Yeah.
So, while he's helping her, yes, you're right.
We hear a chucky shout, "Where the fuck are you, Tiffany?"
And she has to sort of just cover up.
"Oh, don't worry about it.
You know, it's nothing.
It's nothing."
And then he's playing with a speaking spell.

(02:40:43):
I laughed at his letter block saying, "Kill Tiffany slowly."
Yeah.
Kill Tiffany slowly on his blocks.
And then the speaking spell says, "Spell.
Woman."
And he types in B-I-T-C-H.
That is not correct.
And he's like, "Shills, what do you know, pal?"
It's like a bit.
But it's fine.

(02:41:04):
He's a chucky.
He's a dick.
That's fine.
She gives him a doll.
I brought you a present, Chucky.
I brought you someone to play with.
And he gives her, she gives him, sorry, a doll in a wedding dress.
He could use this as a blow-up doll, like a sex doll, couldn't he?
Well, I was thinking that.
I was thinking the first time I saw this.

(02:41:25):
I can't type for that as well.
The first time I saw this.
And Sarah said he could use that as a sex doll, couldn't he?
Because he says later on, we're anatomically correct after all.
Yeah.
So he could have done it anyway.
He probably did.
But she's made the mistake of putting the ring with a big, sharp diamond on it around
the doll's neck.
Yeah.

(02:41:46):
And she says, "You two should get married."
And he says, "You are so dead."
She goes off to have possibly one of the best scenes in the film.
Jennifer Tilly has a lovely bubble bath.
She does.
And watching a little bit of murder, she wrote, first of all, which is great.
She does, yeah.
Fantastic.
And then Bride of Frankenstein.
I'd want to be in that bath with her, watching those two things in her row.
Drinking some wine with her.

(02:42:08):
And she's even crying.
I'm going to tell Alice to listen to the show.
At the end of Bride of Frankenstein, she's sort of crying when he says, "We belong,
dude."
Bride of Frankenstein is amazing.
It is amazing.
And then she sees some TV reports about a body has been found in a trunk.
And it's Damien.
And she just doesn't really care.
Because that was her.

(02:42:29):
And she doesn't really care, really.
Do you see Chucky walking along?
He breaks out the box with a knife.
And he looks really good.
Well, no.
He uses the diamond to saw through the bars.
The diamond ring.
Yeah, then he gets a knife, doesn't he?
Then he gets the knife.
And he brings a surprise attack on her in the bath.
She screams.
He knocks the TV into the bath.

(02:42:51):
And she is fried.
Fried in the bathtub.
The old classic toaster in the bathtub, TV in the bathtub.
And then he chants.
And he's getting her back in.
He's such a wanker.
He does the whole, "Give me the power I beg of you."
And he transfers her soul into the door.
So he can do that to anyone?

(02:43:12):
I guess so.
So why can't he do this more often?
I don't know.
Because I'm breaking the logic of it.
And all we're doing is child's play movies.
Well, she's pissed off.
Because she wakes up and she's a doll, as you would be.
And he says, "Well, look at me.
I got the body of G.I. Joe."

(02:43:34):
You know, he's like, "You're the same as me now.
I'm an even keel."
And she's very, very angry.
She punches him.
Yeah, she punches him.
So then it's basically an excuse for him
to have someone else who needs to get the amulet
to get himself back out.
Yeah, because the only way that you can transfer the soul
back out is with the amulet.

(02:43:55):
So he knows that she's going to help him.
But the amulet has been buried with Charles Lee Ray's
actual body in a cemetery far away.
Sarah's logic was, "Why doesn't he, like, you know,
make her drive to the cemetery?"
So you can transfer a dead person's soul into an object
without the amulet.
But to put it back into...

(02:44:18):
to do it the other way around, you need the amulet.
Is that right?
That's what they're saying.
That's the rule in this film.
Back out, yeah.
Well, I don't know.
What's he going to do?
If he can already just go into other bodies,
what's he going to do?
He can't come back out as bad through his body,
because that's not there now.
He's dead.
I'm not sure.
I don't understand his logic of what he's actually doing,

(02:44:41):
then.
What do you need the amulet for?
Doesn't make sense.
Well, let's ignore that and just move on.
Perhaps if Don Mancini's listening,
he can fill these gaps in the press.
Even Joe Fatelli.
What are they going to do?
Tiffany calls Jesse.
OK, I don't understand.
And again, obviously, she's on the phone,
so he can't see that she's a doll.
There's no listeners if you know what's going on.

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Tiffany calls Jesse and says,
"Hey, Jesse, my next-door neighbour.
Can you do me a favour and just pop into my trailer
and pick up these dolls and take them on a road trip?
I'll pay you."
And he's like, "What?
That's a bit weird."
And before he goes in to collect the dolls,
we have a little montage where she really goths herself up,
doesn't she?
Gofftage.
Gofftage?

(02:45:23):
That sounds weird.
I'm going to have a gofftage this evening.
What dessert would you like this evening,
Gav, after you, Swedish meatballs?
You can have tiramisu.
I've got some fresh gofftage, if you go.
What fresh gofftage?
It's fresh gofftage.
Fresh gofftage sounds not nice.

(02:45:44):
But Chucky loves her new look
when she's dolled herself up and he thinks,
"Oh, this is good."
It does this way, it gets a little woody.
No, no, that's a bit later on.
I love the fact that woody has a toy story.
That's when he says to her later on.
I'm starting to feel a little like Pinocchio over here,
if you know what I'm saying.
Can we now please, Universal, watch a movie
where Toy Story's Woody teams up with Chucky

(02:46:09):
and they go on madcap adventures.
Woody's just trying to say, "Stop killing them!"
They're after the wrong Andys.
No.
They've switched Andys.
Woody's a sheriff.
He's after Chucky.
Let's do that.
Look, the fugitive.
And it's all going to be to do with the wrong Andy

(02:46:30):
or something like that.
I'm so into that movie.
Sounds weird.
And it's like the fugitive.
So old craggy-faced Tommy Lee Jones shows up.
And the fugitive, I watched it again recently,
it's quite unfun, actually.
You think it's going to be quite fun?
It's too long.
It's just not really that much fun.
Yeah, I actually quite...

(02:46:52):
You think you like it?
Yeah, I can't remember that one.
Witness?
No.
No, we're Harrison Ford.
It's the one with Wesley Snipes.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
What's it called?
I can't remember what it's called now.
It's called something boring, like county sheriffs
or something like that.
It's not got a really...
U.S. modules.

(02:47:13):
That's the one.
County sheriffs.
Dan, what are we going to call the movie?
County sheriffs.
That's going to fly off the racks.
What about police officer?
No, we need something snappy.
U.S. marshals.
Great.
Police men.
Well, one of Jackie Chan's best films

(02:47:35):
is called Police Story.
Yeah.
And it's still on my list.
Police Story.
There we go.
It's a fucking great film.
So, Jesse comes into the trailer,
picks up the dolls, he finds a note that says,
"Oh, thanks very much for doing this.
Here's all the money."
It's Police Story, where it's him

(02:47:56):
and he gets to go with a bunch of the guys
and they go off to someone or something.
Him and a few other policemen.
No, no.
Oh, okay.
It's a really complex story
about an undercover group of guys
that use wires, wiretaps,
and he's the head of the organisation,
and then his girlfriend gets kidnapped

(02:48:17):
as part of this, like, triad thing.
And then at the end, no one believes him
and he gets framed for, like, loads of bad shit.
And they think he's like a renegade cop
who's going crazy.
So he has to prove his innocence
and rescue his girlfriend.
Sounds complicated.
And he ends up going to a shopping mall
in the end and taking on, like, 30 bad guys,
doing these crazy, badass Jackie Chan shit.

(02:48:38):
It's an insanely good film.
Great story line as well.
Okay.
I'll give it a go.
Really good.
Yeah, so he grabs the, he grabs the dolls.
Jesse grabs the dolls, grabs the address, grabs the money,
and it's a cemetery.
He's got to go to, to take the dolls there.
But obviously that's where the body is of, of Charles E. Ray.
So he's going to drive them there.
But he picks up Jade, his girlfriend on the way.

(02:49:02):
And he's talking to her.
He's sort of saying to her, look,
I got some advice from my neighbour the other day,
which is I shouldn't take you for granted.
And I should tell you, I love you
and I don't want to take you for granted.
In fact, why don't we get married?
Should we get married?
And she's like, oh my God.
I can't believe it.
Meanwhile, Chuckie's...
Get married.
Okay.
Meanwhile, Chuckie's doing the wanker sign to them.

(02:49:25):
Yeah, yeah.
I agree.
Chuckie.
And Chuckie's like, oh Jesus.
But Tiffany's like,
that's so romantic that they're doing that.
Yeah, because she wants to get married.
And then he says, yeah, I give them six months.
Yeah, three if she gets fed.
That's what he says.
What a bastard.
You know, John Ritter.

(02:49:47):
He finds the van with the dolls inside.
You keep saying this, John Ritter.
Do you know him from something?
Yeah, John Ritter.
Fucking insanely famous comedian who died.
I don't know.
Oh my God, Gav.
Please get to know John Ritter.
He's so funny.
You'll know him from loads of things.
Okay.

(02:50:10):
Really funny guy.
Really funny.
Well, he finds the van anyway with the dolls inside.
When he's grossed out when he sees the dolls.
And he goes in the van and Chuckie pulls out a knife
and Tiff says, no, no, no, no, let's kill him with something else.
So they get a jar of nails and they set up a booby trap,
which basically involves him hearing a little giggle from Tiff.

(02:50:35):
And he goes over to there and they set something up
where all the nails fire into his face.
Yeah, right.
It's the airbag.
I don't know how they got a nail spit on that, but they did.
So yeah, the airbag pushes him out.
And Chuckie says, why does that look so familiar?
Oh, cheeky.
He's a hellraiser.

(02:50:56):
But actually, Brad Deriff, I'd lived that as well.
They weren't going to include that.
But Brad Deriff said, oh, I've got to say,
why does that look so familiar?
Because obviously, it's a hellraiser, like we say.
Then they hide him in a trunk in the back of the van.
They clean up all the blood just in time for Jesse and Jay to come back,
who don't know they've now got a dead body in their van full of nails.
See, obviously in editing, it's when you've got the choice

(02:51:19):
when Brad Deriff gives you another delivery
and he puts like a little bit of that into it.
Just having that choice turns the movie into a different thing.
It could be a bit more of a cheeky, a meta type film,
just with these little references.
A bit more light screen.
And it's funny as well, because what's interesting is
all these references to other classic slashers and horror icons.

(02:51:40):
And then Ronnie Yu would go on to direct
the ultimate crossover, Freddie versus Jason, you know?
And people then wanted, you know, Chuckie versus Pinhead
or Chuckie versus Leprechaun, things like that.
So it is interesting.
We'll begin to Chuckie, no, Freddie versus Jason.
A couple of years.
A couple of years time, yeah.

(02:52:02):
Not long. We'll get there.
Yeah, if I take long. Time goes by very quickly.
Of course, Gav, this is 1998.
So Chuckie finds a big bag of weed in the back of the van as well.
And he's like, "Score!"
He's very pleased with that.
The van gets pulled over yet again
by another one of John Rich's cronies.
She punches him.

(02:52:24):
She punches him.
Meanwhile, Chuckie's getting stoned in the back of the van.
Good old Chuckie.
Do you think Chuckie, now we've talked about this before,
Chuckie and Leprechaun, give them a bong, let them sit down.
Hang out together.
What would go on there?
I would imagine they could start a podcast.
I think those two in a movie together.

(02:52:45):
It's quite funny as fuck.
Because, imagine, Warwick Davis making a little rhyme up
and Chuckie would just be laughing his head off about it
and then they'd go off and kill somebody.
You're a funny fucker.
It'd be really funny.
They'd be arguing over who's the tallest and stuff like that.
It'd be great.
You must be Irish.

(02:53:06):
You've got the red hair there, Chuckie.
I can imagine all the little things like that.
They should do it.
Ronnie Yu, come out of retirement.
Do that.
Make that.
Yeah, so Chuckie gets stoned.
She punches a cop.
The cop searches the van.
He almost finds the dead body, but he does find the weed.
And he says to them, right, you stay here.

(02:53:28):
I'm going to go and radio this in.
He gets back in his car.
Meanwhile, Chuckie gets the lighter off John Ritter.
And he sneaks over to the cop car.
Puts a rag in the petrol cap.
Lights it.
Then he crawls back over again.
That's a bit odd.
That stone guy sees him, doesn't he?
Oh, man.

(02:53:49):
And that guy, he puts his name down as Park Bench.
Who played that?
Really?
Yeah.
That stoner guy is so good.
He plays it so well.
He looks up.
Whoa.
He says, rude fucking doll, man.
Chuckie looks back at him.
He gives him a finger and carries on going.
He's like, whoa, rude fucking doll.

(02:54:12):
He doesn't really question it.
He's just like, I'm having a great time in this car right now.
Off my tits.
Yeah.
I've never got high-end seen fucking dolls.
And thought, yeah, that must be what's going on.
You'd hope not.
Well, he's lit the rag in the petrol tank, got away, flipped off the guy, like he said.
And he drops the lighter on the way, which the police find later on and link that to

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John Ritter.
But yes, suddenly the car explodes.
Boom.
Goodbye.
He's dead.
And the other kids think it was Jade and Jesse that did it.
So rather than sort of hang out and say, well, it wasn't us.
They just speed off in their van.
They do.
Off they go.
Yeah.
The effects are pretty much Kevin Yeager did quite a lot of the effects.

(02:54:57):
He's quite known for a lot of other movies.
Quite good.
We're now an effects artist.
Yeah.
And they still weren't using much CGI.
No, no.
They probably would have removed some wires.
No.
I think Chuckie looks really good in this.
That's why I surprised you thought in part three looks the best, but I think it's so
good in this.
I think he looks really good.

(02:55:18):
But I think he looks good in the more.
I think the use of, you know, seeing just feet or hands or puppetry and animatronics
in all of the movies really works so, so well.
It's very clever.
And again, if you use something in small amounts and, you know, less is always more as we say.
It just looks great.
Looks great.
I hope Tom Holland always gets a bit of a check in the old post for every single movie

(02:55:49):
comes out.
It does must do really because it is his little origins brainchild.
So yes, they speed off and they do argue, you know, should we be driving away from this,
you know, what we're going to do here?
David calls them their friend and says, guys, have you seen the news?

(02:56:10):
You are wanted for several murders.
And also your uncle, John Ritter is missing.
He says nonchalant on the way.
He just sort of says this their friend.
Yeah, but it's funny enough though.
When he goes, he gets in the car and vanies open when they pick him up.
He's like, obviously, I know you guys aren't do that.
And then you look at me like, yeah, it's pretty obvious these guys are not killers.

(02:56:33):
You just got to look over there.
So on that point, I went, yeah, fair enough.
That's why I say nonchalant about it.
He's like, you're obviously not killers.
Because I was like, is this bad acting or bad directing?
But no, it makes sense.
And he says to them, you two better lay low because you're wanted for a couple of murders.
So they head to Niagara Falls as far away as they can and they stop on the way there.

(02:56:55):
They stop at a chapel.
They get married.
It's not important.
It makes you look so much more guilty.
He says to her, let's get married.
He sort of pushes her in a way into it.
She's not sure if she wants to do it.
So they go in.
Meanwhile, Tiffany says, I think we should use their bodies.
We should move into their bodies because they're young.

(02:57:16):
They're good looking and they make a cute couple.
And Chuckie's like, yeah.
But then he says to her, why do you need the amulet?
I don't know to get out of the body.
I don't know.
He didn't need the amulet with Tyler in the last one.
No.
Chuckie does apologize at this point.
There's some more white zombie going on as well.

(02:57:38):
And he says, I'm really sorry about the way I treated you.
You know, we were a good couple.
We do have the same sense of humor.
We both love killing people.
You know, maybe we could make this work.
Yeah, maybe we could take their bodies.
Let's hop into their souls holes.
Let's do it.
All of a sudden while they're talking, John Ritzer is still alive.
Now face man pops up.

(02:58:00):
Pops up.
He gets knifed up by Chuckie basically.
Well, just before that, he trips over and falls on his own face,
which has already got loads of nails in it.
It's not good, look.
Owie.
Yeah, and then Chuckie stabs him a hell of a lot in the back.
And we cut back to the wedding.
You may now kiss the bride, they kiss.
And they see some TV reports that say the police are on the trail of Jade and Jesse.

(02:58:24):
They see the one who are ones here to, you know, for multiple murders.
And this is why they're in their honeymoon suite.
It's so weird that this other couple are just there.
No, they, they're there for a forster, aren't they?
I guess so.
But it's just like, where they come from?
Fuck off.
Well, there are their own sort of story because they are criminals as well.

(02:58:45):
Oh, they're stealing off people, yeah.
Yeah.
If they can't bone and mess deal them.
They walk into their room.
Oh, we didn't realise someone was in this room.
The door's not locked.
How can they do that?
You'd be like, get the fuck out then.
They say to them, we're on a honeymoon.
If I was on my honeymoon, be like, fuck off.
While you're watching TV on your honeymoon, there's better things you could be doing.
And then the girls like, yeah, I mean, you know what they say?

(02:59:07):
They're more of the merrier, right?
Right.
And they sort of lie on their bed for a bit.
And Jesse's like, I barely bone this girl.
I don't want to get involved in a forster at this stage.
Can you just get out of here, please?
They see the dolls.
They go, oh, these are cute.
What a cute wedding gift you guys have got.
This is cute.
And then they eventually they leave.
Steal some shit.

(02:59:28):
Steal some shit.
I think they take the ring as well.
Yeah, and some money.
And Tiffany sees this.
She goes, I'm going to get the ring back from that stealing bitch.
So they're in bed later on on a water bed, getting it on.
A water bed.
That just looks so frustrating.
You couldn't sleep in it.
It was too like rocky.
How'd you bonk on it?

(02:59:50):
Because it'd be like splosh, splosh, splosh.
Yeah, you're not going to be able to really get any spring action going on.
You need a good, uh, firm base for some good pelvic crusting.
But with a bit of a bounce.
A water bed is like.
Welcome to down and go have sex tips here.
You need a bit of a firm base to get a good bounce.

(03:00:13):
But the water beds just, you're going to stay there.
No, come away.
But, but it looks great on film when it's open.
I don't drink anymore.
Of course.
But imagine being drunk on that would be horrible.
Oh, I'd be sick.
I'd be sick because you'd be splashing over the place.

(03:00:34):
Oh, disgusting.
Um, and very quickly though, before you got the man and woman who were next door and they're going to be killed.
That's the bit we're talking about.
The man has got the dirtiest white socks and he wears them to bed.
And it's like, oh, really?
You can see him from the mirror face downwards.
Don't judge a book by its, what am I saying?

(03:00:55):
Don't judge a book by its cover.
Don't judge a book by its socks, Gav.
Okay.
But yeah, they're getting it on.
And not only have they got an inflatable heart shaped water bed, they've also got a ceiling mirror.
So they're really into, you know, some good times.
Tiffany sneaks in their room.
She wants to get the ring back and she knows that they're up to no good.
They look up in middle, middle of the bonk to the ceiling and they see this little grinning doll with a champagne bottle.

(03:01:22):
And she throws the bottle up to the ceiling.
It's a brilliant kill.
It looks excellent.
It smashes the glass.
All the glass comes flying down and slices them to ribbons.
And then obviously burst the water bed and we get this kind of tsunami of blood and water fly all over the floor.
And there's pretty much, they're dead.
And now Chucky has six.

(03:01:46):
Well, he looks at her because that was like, like you said, it was such an incredible dramatic kill.
He looks at me and he goes, I love you.
And then he sort of gets down on one knee and he puts the ring on her finger.
He has to pull it off of the severed finger of the woman.
And he says, will you marry me?
She, she starts crying and then she says, hang on a minute.
I'm, I'm actually crying.

(03:02:08):
I wonder if all the plumbing works.
And he says, well, we are anatomically correct.
And this is where he says I'm starting to feel a little like Pinocchio over here myself.
And yes, now we get a dull sexing.
Yeah, weird.
But it's only really done by shadow.
And you see Chucky, they're in missionary position.

(03:02:29):
You know, just a standard missionary.
Chucky's humping away.
And then she says, well, wait, wait, wait, don't come yet.
Um, have you got a protection?
And he says, what do you mean?
She goes, a rubber.
And he says, a rubber.
I made a rubber.
Luckily you don't see the orgasm.

(03:02:50):
Because I don't, I think Brad DeRiff in a studio doing ADR.
Go ahead, go ahead.
Yeah.
But I just don't want him to have to.
I mean, maybe you did that.
Maybe out there somewhere, there's a tape of his voice doing that.
I don't want to hear it.
I love you, Brad, but no.
But it's funny.
And it's really all designed just to get to the joke of what do you mean?

(03:03:13):
Do I need a rubber?
I am rubber.
It's funny.
It works.
It's silly.
This film is all of those things.
It works.
It's silly.
But we're having a lot of fun with it.
Um, Jesse calls David.
Um, he's panicked.
He says, look.
I've just got married.
But I think, sorry.
Uh, yeah.
But he says, I think Jade is a serial killer.
Meanwhile, on the other line, Jade is also speaking to David saying,

(03:03:36):
I think Jesse is a serial killer.
So they both think the other one is killing all these people.
And he's quite clever and quite well written.
Um, and he organizes, this is where he organizes for them to meet up.
Because he knows neither of them are the killer.
Yep.
Because they're both so nice.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Both so good.
Meanwhile, Gav, we get Haski Bean.

(03:03:57):
Haski Bean.
Haski Bean.
She comes in.
Ah, these newlyweds.
Ah, they're crazy.
She's laughing.
Ah, look at what they get up to.
Ah, they're sliced up.
Yeah, there she sees the bed everywhere.
Glass, body, parts.
Yeah, and they're the fuck out of there, aren't they?
They're on the road.
Yeah, they're off.
They're driving.
They're basically like the fucking, is it the car?
Yeah, they're on the road.

(03:04:18):
What the fucking, is it the Gecko Brothers?
No, they're...
They are like the Gecko Brothers.
Yeah.
Destruction.
Fucking those two are great, aren't they?
George Clooney and Quentin Tarantino.
Yeah, surprisingly.
What a weird pairing, but great.
I know.
Really good.

(03:04:39):
And actually, surprisingly, George Clooney was the psycho out of the two as well.
Well, no, Tarantino's completely not a maniac.
Yeah, but fuck me.
His brother is.
No, he is the maniac.
But yeah, but Clooney is an unhinged.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
But Tarantino is the maniac.
He's the one that starts to kill people.

(03:05:00):
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they drive off as soon as they can.
They argue about who the killer is.
This is where David says you're both wrong.
It's neither of you.
Then David himself starts questioning whether they are the killer,
because he then goes in the back of the van, finds John Richard's body.
Yeah, so he takes the gun out.
Like, what the fuck?
So he tries to keep it quiet.

(03:05:21):
And it's quite a fun that I wish actually they'd have played on this for longer.
Close-ups on his face of him.
Yeah.
Because he immediately turns around and pulls the gun on them.
I wanted them to drive back.
She jumps back to give him a cuddle.
And he goes, stay away from me, but it was too forced.
Why would she jump back in the van to cuddle him?
She'd be like, yeah, thanks for that.
Like, let's keep going.

(03:05:42):
And it must have been a way just to push it forward.
But it's like, they should really played on that, like him being paranoid.
Was that going until they got to the cemetery or something?
Well, he tells them to pull over, so they do.
But the dolls also have guns at this point.
Yeah, where did they get guns from?
I can't remember where they got guns from really.

(03:06:03):
And then we get a bit of a crap CGI death here now, sadly.
Not as good as the final destination here.
David steps out of the truck.
It's very easy to do those in Inverton.
All we see is the CGI splatter.
It's not hard at all.
And the dolls say to Jade and Jesse, drive, drive, so they do.

(03:06:29):
But a cop car saw them all stood there with guns on the side of the road.
So he's done a U-turn and he's now in pursuit of them.
However, Chucky kicks the door open,
waves the gun in the air whilst pulling on Jade's hair
and shoots the car tires out.
The cop car goes off the side of the road and they lose them and they're off.
And Chucky then explains everything to them.

(03:06:51):
Yeah, sorry, yes.
He says to them, "We want your bodies.
We're going to transfer our souls into your bodies
and we're going to be able to start again."
And the news report on the radio says,
"An interesting turn of events as some fingerprints
found at the scene of some of these murders
have come out as Charles Lee Ray's fingerprints,

(03:07:15):
the deceased serial killer from the 80s."
So Chucky's fingerprints, actually, whoever you are,
your soul is the fingerprints on...
That's what I mean.
They're just making stuff up as we go.
Bit of a logic flaw.
Also, Gav, his fingers are tiny.
Surely they'd say Charles Lee Ray's child-like fingerprints.
Or his DNA.

(03:07:37):
It's weird.
His DNA would be better, surely.
But it is what it is and they're off to dig up his corpse
because the amulets with his body, and that's what we're doing.
Well, they need to get new wheels, aren't they? A new RV.
They do. So they steal an old couple's motorhome.
They've cooked dinner. They've killed them, basically.
We see them dead in a cupboard.

(03:07:58):
Well, they're cooking that.
I love the fact that these two work together,
provoking them to fight each other.
Are you going to take that? That sort of stuff.
Imagine a crossover, though, where they steal a motorhome,
and it's actually Harvey Keitel's motorhome
with his two children from Dust to Dawn, isn't it?
Yeah.
And they don't know that Richie and his brother,
the gecko brothers, are in the bathroom.

(03:08:19):
That would be fun.
You get these show up in a lot, don't you?
Because there's also that Jason movie
where they're shagging in a motorhome as well.
Yeah.
It's a show up in a lot of horror movies.
Yeah, he'll have eyes, all sorts.
Yeah, yeah, totally, totally.
It's good. It's a good, cheap location.
And you're right. This is where Tiff Bakeson Brownies

(03:08:40):
and Jane and Jesse start basically creating an argument
like her food sucks, or she hasn't done the dishes,
or are you going to take that?
And they end up having a big fight,
which ends with one of them kicking Tiffany into the oven
and shutting the door,
and Chucky flying out the window of the camper van,
which then crashes, turns on its side,

(03:09:03):
fuel starts leaking out of the camper van.
It's all gone to its head.
It's about to explode, but Tiffany bursts out of the oven.
She's all burnt and horrible looking.
Jesse manages to save Jade just as the van blows up.
Tiffany tries to grab the gun,
and Jesse stops her by stepping on her little burnt arm.

(03:09:26):
And Chucky makes Jade carry him off
because he's got a gun on her.
The graveyard, by the way, looks fantastic.
It's a good set.
Yeah, there's a bit, just before he gets that,
which I really liked, where it just cut to a guy
being killed and thrown into a hole.
Or, no, sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he had just been cohered into doing the hole

(03:09:48):
by gunpoint or whatever.
And I love the fact that you didn't see any of that.
It was just actually him being killed,
and then he'd already made the hole.
Oh, no, he was making the hole because,
so he was there to exhume the body,
because the police were saying
they were going to exhume the body.
Oh, okay.
I thought it was really, really smart editing, actually.
Yeah, you didn't really need to see it, did you?
It was cool.
Well, that's what the idea is in editing.

(03:10:09):
Someone's got to go from A to B.
You don't generally see the car drive.
That should be just be like A, B, you know, straight on.
And I thought that was kind of it.
And they're just literally saying,
yeah, the audience is definitely intelligent enough
that they've just killed the sentry man,
but they obviously must have got him
to come along at gunpoint to make the hole.
And I thought I was doing that,
and I thought I was very clever.
But I will use that myself.

(03:10:30):
It was still clever that we didn't need
to really see the kill, you know?
Yeah.
It's just still nice, yeah.
It's like breathing for Chuckie Tiff.
They just kill everyone.
And it's cheaper to make, you know?
Yeah, you didn't need to do it.
So Chuckie finds his grave, as we say,
and he chucks Tiff in the grave.
He thinks Tiff...
He does think Tiff is gross when she comes back.

(03:10:53):
Yeah, he says, "Ugh, you're disgusting."
Yeah.
He makes Jade open the coffin,
and there's his skeleton in there,
and the amulets round his neck,
and he says, "Sorry, you didn't really need to see this."
We still don't need to know what it's for.
It's the MacGuffin, though.
It's the MacGuffin.
She rips the amulet off, which breaks his head off,

(03:11:16):
and he goes, "Ah, bitch, you broke my neck."
And then there's a stand-off,
and they end up swapping Jade for Tiff.
Like you say, Chuckie's disgusted by her,
because she's all burnt and horrible,
and she's really sad.
Chuckie throws a knife at Jade,
but it goes into Jessie's back.
He's not dead, though.

(03:11:38):
He ties them up together, and he begins chanting.
And this is where Tiff says...
She starts realising everything they're doing is wrong.
She starts remembering the Bride of Frankenstein.
This is where she starts quoting it.
She even says, "We belong together."
They kiss, but it's a trick,
because Tiff stabs Chuckie,

(03:11:59):
and then she says, "And we belong dead,"
which is what Frankenstein says to the Bride
at the end of that movie.
So he then hits her with a shovel,
and this is where we get that incredible force-perspective
overhead shot of Tiffany and Chuckie fighting.
It's actually two full-size actors,
but the way they've shot it near a car
with the oversized props, it just looks great.

(03:12:23):
He ends up stabbing Tiff.
She seems to be dead.
Jessie hits Chuckie into the grave,
and then out of the blue, this cop shows up.
Yeah.
He says, "Where does this trust-worthy detective come along?"
'Cause he's just as bad as that other kid.
But the thing is, he shows up,

(03:12:45):
and he's found the two kids that are, you know, suspected of these murders.
Then he looks down.
You've got Chuckie in the grave stood there, looking at him, smiling.
And he thinks, "Oh, shit. Okay."
So this is actually happening then.
Yeah.
So Jade pulls a gun on Chuckie.
The cop doesn't stop her.
And she says, "I'm going to kill you."

(03:13:06):
And he says, "You can do what you like. You can shoot me."
"I always come back," which he does.
But, you know, this cop comes along and says,
"Right, I don't let this girl take a gun from you."
He's probably just generally don't do that anyway.
That proves a weird little doll was alive.
And we could study this, make money off this.

(03:13:27):
Like, and it proves that none of you did this.
But he's just like, "Yeah, obviously you didn't do it. There's a doll there."
"Okay, you go."
You've literally got proof of the afterlife from reincarnation here.
Yeah. And they shoot a doll. Obviously she does.
And he's just like, "Yeah, you give me my gun back."
"Right, go on. You go home now."
He says to her, "You do that no one's ever going to believe this, right?"

(03:13:48):
So, you two are off the hook.
Well, he's just decided that.
So, when everyone else turns up and says, "What happened?"
He's could go, "See that doll?"
Yeah. That killed everybody.
He radios it in afterwards, after they run off.
He radios and says, "You guys need to come over to the cemetery."
They're not guilty.
Yeah, but it's still, how can he explain this?

(03:14:09):
Well, he says to them, "You're not going to believe what I've got here."
That doesn't matter.
He can prep them as much as you want in the fucking radio call
when they turn up.
They could be like, "What the fuck are you talking about?"
Why don't you show me a doll?
Right, right.
You can't use this doll, that doll, as your killer.
Where are the actual kids?
We've been following this whole time, this trial of murder.

(03:14:30):
I let them go.
What do you mean you let them go?
They had a doll.
It's just, he's getting fired.
Well, he, after he's radiate this in, he walks along
and he sees Tiffany's corpse on the ground
and he thinks, "Oh, God."
He pokes it, pokes it a couple of times.
Nothing happens.
And then all of a sudden, she goes, "Ahhh!"

(03:14:52):
This is such a horrible scene.
I didn't like this scene.
I was happy with the end.
Blood splats out from underneath her dress.
And she's having a little doll, baby.
And it crawls out.
It's quite a good effect, this baby, isn't it?
It's horrible.
It crawls out and the cop screams.
The baby jumps in his face and begins to kill him
and that is cut to credits.

(03:15:15):
Oh.
Ending on a horrible little doll, baby.
It's really horrible.
It's quite disturbing.
It reminds me of the weird baby in a razor head as well.
Yeah, I still didn't watch it, Halloween.
Weird little slug, baby.
Right.
Anyway, well, do you give that a thumbs up or thumbs down?
Yeah, I mean, let's quickly...

(03:15:36):
I enjoyed that one.
Yeah, it's a really fun one.
It's a different film to the first three.
It's, like we said before, it's got that comedy element to it.
It takes a different turn, but bringing Tiffany into it
and, you know, 1998 without music and the goff stuff.
Do you think we're a more fun world then compared to the '80s?

(03:15:58):
In some ways.
Different world, I guess.
Yeah, different, yeah, yeah.
It's interesting to look at three and four.
It's only seven years apart and they're very different in style, aren't they?
Yeah, I'm still, I quite enjoyed this one.
Now, does this go over number one for me?
No, I think number one still for the moment.

(03:16:20):
I still think number two is the weakest out of the four we've covered.
Because it was just, it was good, but it wasn't awesome.
I can't remember.
Three's my favourite, followed by one, then four, then two, out of the ones we've done.
So three, one, four, two for me.

(03:16:41):
There we go.
But that was Charles play three and four.
Yes, a thumbs up for me, of course, both of them.
Which means when we get around to it, next time, not the next episode,
but when we get around to it, we'll be taking a look at possibly the weakest in the franchise,
Seed of Chucky from 2004, which was again,

(03:17:04):
which was actually directed by Don Mancini as well as written.
And we'll be pairing that up with the follow-up Curse of Chucky,
which again, was directed by Don Mancini.
He also directed the one after that.
So he directed three Chucky films in a row.
So yeah, we'll be taking Seed of Chucky and then Curse of Chucky.
And then when we get around to it, the final part of the franchise will be Cult of Chucky,

(03:17:27):
which I think you're a big fan of.
Is that one with Fiona DeRiff in the wheelchair?
I believe so, yeah.
Yeah, I quite enjoyed that one, yeah.
And we are going to pair that one up with the 2019 Mark Howell voiced remake, Reboot.
I've not seen it.
Oh, interesting.
But that'll be a while before we get to that.
And there's a TV show.

(03:17:48):
And I've got to say, Gav, I'm enjoying going through this franchise
a lot more than going through the Leprechaun franchise.
Oh, God, all the Critters one.
Yeah, there is a TV show. I haven't seen it.
I might have a little Delge.
Ganders. Have a little Ganders.
Goosey, goosey, Gander.
I might slip into Chucky's first episode.

(03:18:09):
Are you going to transfer your soul into his hole?
There's no hole transferring whatsoever.
Right, Bill, no.
He's not even here.
No, Bill.
Bill's gone.
Oh, we'll be back in a minute.
[Music]

(03:18:45):
And we're back again.
Back again with Chucky.
[Laughs]
Cooking with Chucky.
I've been making a right mess.
This week we'll be looking at Swedish meatballs.
Yeah.
Well, there we go. That was chance play three and four.
Moving through the franchise.
Interesting and fun to do this.
I love coming back to these franchises that we're working our way through.

(03:19:07):
But everybody is fed up now
of listening to us talk about Chucky.
And they're like, "What's next, Dan?"
Are they, Gav? Are they?
Shall I tell you what's next?
Yeah.
All right. So our next episode will be episode 152.
We are going to the master.
It's a John Carpenter special.
It is, isn't it?
Yes. Our fourth one in 10 years.

(03:19:29):
We've picked one each.
So the...
I've picked 1983's
Christine
to cover.
And you have chosen 1995's
"In the mouth of madness"
Which I haven't seen for a while
and I can't wait
to give an excuse.
Our review will be

(03:19:51):
lovely.
And it will be a lovely chance
for us to gush over our favourite director
John Carpenter.
He's got another album coming out. Number four.
Yes, I saw that.
There's Lost Femes or whatever.
So yeah, we'll talk all about John Carpenter
in the next episode and we'll talk those two movies.
After that, it's another
Patron

(03:20:13):
We still are unsure
what we'll be covering. All we know is it's Jamie's episode.
She hasn't got back to me yet.
So I'm super excited
to hear when she does.
And yeah,
it's a mystery. Can't tell you what it is.
Even Jessica Fletcher can't solve it yet.
But we'll get there.
So yeah, that will be fun to find out

(03:20:35):
what Jamie's picked for us. And then after that, Gav,
it's at 154.
It's my birthday
episode.
Thank you.
Is there a ghost here?
What have you chosen, Sarah?
We are doing
a double build
of Dolph Lundgren movies.
Okay.

(03:20:57):
We are doing 1990's Dark Angel.
Okay.
Also known in the US sometimes as
I Come in Peace.
I think I might have seen it once.
It's where Dolph Lundgren plays a cop
hunting down an alien
adrenaline from people's brains.
So this alien is going to murder people.
Because on his own planet,

(03:21:19):
a human adrenaline is a drug.
So this is going to be a good conversation.
It's going to be fun.
Dolph Lundgren kicking ass in her legs.
Regardless of how the movie is.
So he's got little CDs
that he uses as weapons.
So they fly all over the place.
I forget films all the time.
I definitely forget I've got on this movie,
which I would have seen on Sky

(03:21:41):
Well, we're pairing that up
with the classic 1987
because it's my birthday.
Masters of the Universe.
Oh yes.
So we're going to be checking out
Dolph Lundgren in a loincloth.
We're going to be talking about Billy
what's his face playing the little
Gueldar.
It's probably about the third or fourth podcast

(03:22:03):
I've been on now talking about this film.
You know, I think
me and Ricky Morgan did it on his show.
Have I done it with anyone else?
I may have done it with Gary Hill.
I'm not sure, but this is the fourth
I'm talking about Masters of the Universe.
Everybody knows I'm the He-Man guy.
So you're absolutely seasoned
to do this.
So you're going to be schooling me

(03:22:25):
with facts and shit.
You know it. I'll be telling you all
about Dolph Lundgren.
I'll let you just flow.
But that's my birthday.
Dolph Lundgren double bill.
A bit of Dolph.
Exciting times guys coming up.
So...
That is basically exciting times.
This is the future of your

(03:22:47):
your world right now listeners.
Coming up soon.
Dolph Lundgren in a loincloth.
Dolph Lundgren double bill. That's excitement
for you. Look forward to it.
Well, you know, with Dolph Lundgren
there's only really three films that we
can talk about that kind of fall under
the umbrella of fantasy, horror, sci-fi.
Dark Angel.
Masters of the Universe.

(03:23:09):
Or...
Universal Soldier.
Because that's technically about zombie soldiers
coming back from the dead.
You know when he wears the ears.
We'll save that one for a
Vandam double bill perhaps.
Amazing.
Because you know, a bit of Vandam.
Anyway, talking of housekeeping earlier.
Let's do some housekeeping.

(03:23:31):
And then we'll say goodbye to everybody.
Yep.
Well, first of all, Gav, this is the
second time we've been able to say this.
We are a proud
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of deadbolt media.
Yeah, we do.
One of two that do.
We're also a proud member of
Legion Podcast Network.

(03:23:53):
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If you want to know more
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That's where you'll find out all about us
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And all the other shows that are on there
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I'm pretty sure we'll need deadbolt
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So we would probably be on there as well

(03:24:15):
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(03:24:37):
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(03:24:59):
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If you've got any suggestions
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Imagine someone emailing me down.
I've got some congestion issues.
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No.
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(03:25:21):
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(03:26:05):
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(03:27:11):
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(03:27:33):
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(03:30:07):
Yeah, always good.
And thank you, Gav, and thank you
to
Jennifer Tilly in the bathtub watching
'Murder She Wrote'.
Thank you to Jessica Lansbury
and goodnight to Jessica Lansbury.
Angela Lansbury. Who's Jessica Lansbury?
There isn't one. There's Jessica
Fletcher, her character.

(03:30:29):
Ah, Gavi's brain, come for some.
But thank you to Angela Lansbury.
It's just our goodnight, is it?
It is our goodnight.
It's a goodnight from
John Ritter with a face full of nails, I guess.
I guess, aye.
What if it's John Ritter with a face
for the critter?
John Ritter's face for the critters.
Eating some Pan-Apple Fritters.

(03:30:51):
I did watch recently, and that's a good
buy, and we're going back to the good
of the episode.
I did watch recently 'Rawhead Rex'.
Oh, yeah.
That costume's weird.
It's big and rubbery.
I never really liked that film.
I really quite enjoyed it.
Anyway, that we're not getting into now. Good night everybody.
Good night from 'Rawhead Rex'.

(03:31:13):
Good night from 'Rawhead Rex'. Why not?
See you later.
Good night, everybody. Stay safe.
Look under the windows. Look under the
beds. And look under the chuckies.
Check out for chuckies coming.
Thank you for listening to the podcast on Haunted Hill.
We will be back again real soon.
[Music]
[Music]

(03:31:35):
[Music]
[Music]
(upbeat music)
♪ Oh no tears please ♪
♪ Can't return, can't return ♪

(03:31:58):
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(laughing)
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