September 29, 2025 • 49 mins
Aisha Makara shares her journey from burnout to intentional living, revealing how establishing boundaries and clear communication transformed her life and creative practice. She offers profound insights on becoming a powerful creator of your own reality through intention, presence, and self-awareness.
• Moving from America to Europe revealed the extent of burnout from the "go-go-go" lifestyle
• Givers must learn to receive and establish clear boundaries to avoid depletion
• Direct communication prevents misunderstandings and unmet expectations
• We can create "heaven now" through our relationships and conscious choices
• The power of words shapes our actions, habits, and ultimately our reality
• Rejection is simply "not today" – persistence requires just one yes to succeed
• Focusing on what you have internally rather than external limitations
• Seek mentors who have accomplished what you aspire to achieve
• Practice curiosity like children do – asking questions without judgment
• Patience with yourself is essential – "Moscow wasn't built in one day"
Be kind to yourself. I'm inviting people to be more kind with themselves because the world becomes so beautiful when we learn about kindness, love, caring, safety, and security.
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NatNat - LiftOneSelf (00:00):
Welcome to the Lift One Self podcast.
I'm your host, nat Nat, andtoday I have Aisha with me and
we're gonna, you know, delveinto what intention can do with
your life and how you can startactivating more joy and
connection in your relationshipswith yourself and with others.
So, aisha, would you be willingto introduce yourself to myself
(00:22):
and the listeners and let usknow a little bit about yourself
?
Aisha Makara (00:27):
Hello everyone.
I'm Aisha Makara, artist,author and entrepreneur.
I'm living right now in Lisbon,portugal.
It's a wonderful weather,really happy to have this
amazing weather right nowbecause it was raining all so
many months six months.
It was too much and cold.
(00:48):
Um really happy to be here,really happy to um create more
awareness and joy in life of my,of my own life and the life of
the people.
It's been an amazing journey sofar and so many amazing
experiences I have and I wouldlike to share with you guys the
(01:12):
experiences and the things Ilearned so far about life.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (01:17):
Okay, I love the mural behind you.
Aisha Makara (01:21):
It's very yeah, I created it, by the way it's very
beautiful.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (01:24):
It's my artwork.
Yeah, it's beautiful.
I created it.
By the way, it's very beautifulartwork.
Aisha Makara (01:26):
Yeah, it's beautiful my uh solo art
exhibition is going to be justin a week, right oh?
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (01:31):
that's a lot of um, excitement and stress
and like trying to get all thelast details.
So I love that we're in thisenergy with you right now and
you know cheering you on, alsosupporting you, that it's
beautiful to see, that you'regoing to be, you know exposing
(01:51):
yourself and sharing yourself,because what people may not
realize for an artist, when theyput something out into the
world, it's like a baby.
It's like a child, so it's veryvulnerable and it's very tender
.
Yet it's very exciting andfinally feeling seen and being
able to share that energy andexpression.
So I'm excited for you and I'mexcited to be in the delight of
(02:16):
this energy with you.
Aisha Makara (02:18):
Thank you.
Yes, I've been, like you know,created a lot of art and
collaborated with many differentartists.
You know, created a lot of artand collaborated with many
different artists.
I've been, um, you know, kindof like uh, setting up different
um art shows around the world,especially like in united states
.
I just moved out from unitedstates to europe, uh like seven
months ago, eight months ago,and for me it was an interesting
(02:40):
transition because I'm feelinglike completely different and I
learned how exhausted I actuallywas when I arrived to Europe,
how much we in a hamster wheelin United States, how much we
just go, go, go, go go.
We don't even check in withourself because we don't have
that time.
(03:00):
We're always on the go and um.
So I was, I never been almostsick when I was living in the
united states, because you don'thave that time and um.
So I decided to create my soloexhibition.
Even so, I had opportunitieslast, you know, in the united
(03:20):
states as as well.
My last place was New York.
I couldn't, just I've been soexhausted and tired so I
couldn't get out of me and thatwork or artwork.
So I understood that I'mcompletely burned out and
exhausted and it's like empty,you know, like my body, my soul,
(03:43):
my mind, my mind, my heart.
Everything was completely likeempty.
So I just started to um learnwhat?
How did it even happen?
you know, and um as a giver.
I, you know, I see that worldneeds more givers, and um more
(04:05):
givers we have in this world,more beautiful world can be,
because givers, they're powerfulcreators, because they're
always just giving, giving, give, and they don't, you know,
expect anything back, becausethey just the way they are.
You know, this is the way I am,and one day I was just asking
myself why, why I'm like this,why I'm doing these things to
(04:31):
myself, why I'm communicatingthings with other people and
over 90 percent of my, my wordsand my time I show up because
this is what I want to do.
And why are the people not likethat?
Why I started to like thinkabout that more, and you know
(04:51):
deeper, because I didn't havethis experience when I was
living in Europe.
You know, yes, people maybedidn't shop time to time, and
they always like bringing thesolutions and they were always
kind of like working together.
Um, you know, collaborating andfrom the heart, in america I
experienced different things.
(05:13):
So, for me, I just get burnedout in such a level that I've
never been before, and so ittook me a time to recover.
You know, like like I go, liketo heal myself, so I give myself
like about six months to justrelax and do nothing.
I would say like this and now Igain in the creative flow doing
(05:35):
a lot of art, working on mysolo art exhibition, create a
lot of art.
I just love it.
So it's, you know it's, andthis is what you're learning
about life.
Life is up and down and themost important what we can gift
to ourself is to check in withourself, asking what's going on,
(05:55):
what's happening, why I'm doingit to myself, and that's very
powerful question to ask yeah,as you say, a check-in.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (06:08):
Would you join me in a mindful moment so
that we can ground ourselves andgo deeper into the conversation
?
Aisha Makara (06:14):
let's do it all right.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (06:17):
So I'll ask you to get comfortable in
your seating and, if it's safeto do so, gently close your eyes
and you're going to beginbreathing in and out through
your nose, bringing yourawareness to watching the rhythm
of your breath.
You're not going to try andcontrol your breath, you're just
going to be aware of its rhythm, allowing it to guide you into
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your body.
There may be some sensations orfeelings coming up.
That's okay, let them surface.
You're safe to feel.
You're safe to let go,surrender the need to control,
(07:02):
release the need to resist andjust be, be with your breath,
drop deeper into your body.
Now there may be some thoughtsor to-do lists that have popped
up, and that's okay.
Gently, bring your awarenessback to your breath, creating
(07:27):
space between the awareness andthe thoughts and dropping deeper
into your body, being in thespace of presence, of being.
Again, more thoughts may havepopped up.
Gently, bring your awarenessback to your breath, beginning
(07:53):
again, creating even more spacebetween the awareness and the
thoughts and completelysurrendering into the body, into
presence, into the body, intopresence, into the space of
being.
Just keeping that awareness onthe breath, just allowing
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yourself to be, just allowingyourself to be Now coming into
your senses, into the moment, atyour own time and at your own
pace.
You're going to gently openyour eyes while staying with
your breath.
(08:41):
How's your heart doing?
Aisha Makara (08:49):
My heart is peaceful and happy.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (08:52):
Very happy and I'm so blessed, really
blessed.
Before we started recording,you were speaking about the
weather and how there's beensuch a dramatic change in
temperature and sometimes wepush through and we don't
realize how much it impacts ourphysical energy, body and what
our capacity is.
And you know, in a world thatalways tells you you don't have
(09:14):
enough time, that's where we cango into burnout of not
listening to the cues the bodyis asking us to slow down, to
nurture, to take care of, to beaware of where we are and what
is, you know, our capacity tooffer.
You also dived into the givingand wondering well, why am I
(09:37):
giving so much and other peoplearen't?
And then this extreme burnoutand some of that giving is a
trauma response.
It gives you a sense of safety,it gives you a sense of
empowerment that if I'm givingthen there's no threat of
somebody taking anything away orthat they'll ask anything of me
.
I think the biggest work from agiver is to allow themselves to
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receive, so it's reciprocal, isto allow themselves to receive,
so it's reciprocal, and that isa tremendous work in the body
because viscerally it feels likeI'm not allowed to do this or
it goes against the narrative ofa quote unquote good person or
actually feeling the fear.
So what did that look like foryou when you've been resting for
(10:22):
these past few months andreflecting and being intro uh,
you know, introspective andhonoring your body they actually
very interesting experience,because when I was living in new
york, I, you know, I was askingfor that support.
Aisha Makara (10:43):
Like you know, I was telling to the people I'm
very tired.
You know, I cannot right nowproduce things and I cannot like
even like continue to give.
So right now I would like toreceive, and I didn't even have
an energy to fight, you know,even like to speak, and it was
(11:04):
just like in such a like, um,sadness, in such a deep, deep
sadness, that people justcontinue to take and take and
take.
That's no, even nothing isthere to take, but they're still
taking whatever they can.
And I was just, I was feelinglike, oh my gosh, I just want to
(11:24):
leave this place, because I wasnot anymore like feeling like
would I leave longer?
I didn't have any kind ofambitious or goals or like I was
just like, if I ever die today,I just die.
You know, it's okay, that'swhat I was came to, the like,
(11:45):
it's like point of my life on,like that's kind of like very
deep, deep grounding, that, umunderstanding that it's all okay
and that was okay.
To like continue, even I wasempty, continue to give whatever
I could, because that's whatpeople was demanding.
Even so, I communicated veryclearly what I need and these
(12:10):
people didn't.
Like I'm surrounded by like Icall like adult kids, you know,
like who's consistently justcrying and asking for more
attention and more attention,and me like as a mature, more
like listening to others.
I'm like I'm not here tobabysit these people.
In the same time, they'reconsistently demanding that I'm
(12:30):
here to babysit them.
And um, and I started to kindof create this boundaries around
me and when people likecontinue to ask me, like can you
babysit me not like I'm, it'smetaphorically and just take
care of me or like help me withthat, help do this for me.
This I said listen, I do itbecause I want to do that,
(12:52):
because I have capacity to dothat, and if I don't want to do
that, I would communicate withyou and you cannot like continue
to demand from me because Idon't want to give it.
It's not, it's I'm adult humanbeing, you adult human being, so
please take responsibility overyour actions.
(13:15):
So I started to communicatethat and the funny things, what
happened is that when I startedto work on my boundaries of my
bubble I go like a joyful bubbleI started to get more the
energy within from my heart,more and more.
It took me a lot of time tokind of getting this, this
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powers back into me andcommunicate that.
And when I moved to Europe, myfriends was like completely
different.
They were like, take your time,stay here as long as you want,
be here, just, you know, donothing.
Just let's go to the nice place.
Nice, you know, connect withthe nature.
(13:56):
Let's go to the nice dinner.
Let's take like you to travel.
Let's you know, like being socaring and loving that I was
just receiving this love andthis caring.
Yes, some of them kind of morelike military style, I would say
because they're like oh, thisis like my house, this is my
rules, and please like respectmy rules.
(14:16):
But I always, when peoplecommunicate, I respect their
rules.
So we continue to move and Ialso learned many people have
expectations.
Even so they open the door foryou.
They have this a way ofexpecting something from you.
Even so they don't communicateit with you directly.
(14:39):
And I like direct communication, I don't make an expectation.
I think like in life youshouldn't have expectation.
You can give because you wantto give and you receive because
also you want to receive.
It's everything is kind ofreciprocal right.
It's giving and receiving Atthe same time.
(15:00):
Many people have expectationsand when you don't meet their
expectations, they started toblame you or putting guilt on
you and telling you that you'rethe worst or I don't know
whatever in their mind becauseyou didn't meet their
expectations.
And the funny thing is whathappened with me, like when
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people opening the doors for meI knew, knew already, like do
you have any expectations?
I'm very direct.
It's like what type ofexpectations you have for me,
because it's up to me to giveyou that or not, because right
now I'm already in such a levelof emptiness, so even you will
have the expectations from meand I feel it.
(15:44):
I cannot give it to you becauseI, I just don't have it.
You know, I didn't have thatenergy to give that you want me
to give, and I feel like you'reconsistently pushing me to give
you something that I don't have.
And that's why I started tocommunicate better as well with
other people.
And the funny things whathappening in reality?
(16:05):
People don't listen and everytime I'm communicating with them
, in my mind I don't communicateso much, it's not so many
things I'm expressing veryclearly and direct.
Even so, people don't listen.
They, they don't.
(16:25):
They don't have capacity tolisten other human being and, in
the moment, their needs.
They're just thinking aboutthemselves, but they want to
take what's their expectations?
They don't see other humanbeing in the eyes.
(16:46):
They don't see, they don't feelthem, they're just thinking
just so selfishly aboutthemselves.
You know why this persondoesn't meet my expectations,
why this person doesn't want togo in this box I'm putting.
I want to put this person inthis box, and every, every time
I'm with people, I'm tellingthem each of us is unique,
(17:09):
beautiful, magical by itself.
We're all free.
That's why I don't get attachedof no or yes or I don't have
expectations for years andthat's kind of way of me living
and this is why I wrote the bookJoyful Living Guidebook, where
I finally express my philosophyof life that I was living from
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since I'm a teenager and I justdon't have this Like.
I was always like asking whypeople have that, why I don't
have that, why my communicationis very direct and clear and I
hear what other people tell meand they don't hear what I'm
saying to them, because manypeople don't use the direct
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communication, they don't usethe clear goals and clear way of
communicating with gentlenessand love.
It's all about me, me, me, me,not us.
In my mind, every time I'mcreating a space or every time
I'm with the people, it's alwaysus, it's we.
(18:14):
When I was 18 with my firstboyfriend and I was like he says
to me I'm so smart, I got thebest school, best education.
Here you are orphan fromnowhere.
And I I said to him listen, wedecided to go together.
Right now we're equal.
It doesn't matter how educationyou have, where you are, what
parents you have and I don'thave parents, it doesn't matter.
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Now we want to walk togetherand we're equal.
You know we're going togethernow and that philosophy already
was me, like all my life.
You know, now it's not me andyou, it's us, it's we.
And in his head it's never beena week.
In my head it's always been aweek, you know.
So it was the very differentway of connecting with each
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other and, of course, as a veryyoung woman, you don't realize
how powerful it is to be in thatspace, to create that space.
That's why I was travelingaround the world and always,
wherever I go, I create a familybecause of this idea of we I
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have inside of me and the peoplelike oh, I'm scared of this
idea of we I have inside of meand the people like, oh, I'm
scared of this.
I'm scared, yes, I'm scared too.
I was very scared when I movedfirst time to America and it was
so scary of everything that'shappening, the way people acting
and people treating each other.
It was so much violence andthese power games and it was
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very, very scary.
And when I was like in my early20s and I decided to move to
Los Angeles, you know, I justsaw all these power games and
all these different things.
That's what's happening.
It was so scary and I wasfeeling like, oh my gosh, this
is how people treat each other.
I was not ready for thatexperience.
I was feeling like it's notsomething I would like to see in
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the world.
I don't want to be one of thesepeople.
I didn't know who I want to beand at the same time I said,
like I get to go on a discoveryto understand who I am.
And, um, like it took me awhile, it took me some years to
actually, you know, go in thatexploration of myself and
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understand who I am, the way Iam.
So I decided, like it's lifehalf up and down it's not
decided, but like it was justlike I started to observe and
what happened is like when we goon a discovery of who I am like
asking this question.
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In my life, I was like askingthis question what is true love
is what it is to experience truelove, and I'm learning through
my life I'm in my 30s right now.
I'm learning through my lifethat the true love it's
relationships, relationshipsthat we will carry through all
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our life with people that we'resharing the experiences with,
and many times people have afilter, or through the church,
through the religion, or throughthe different like beliefs.
We have this like a goodexperience and bad experience.
In reality, we just have theexperience of life.
It's nothing good and bad.
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It's only experience itself andthe way we're facing that
experience with a smile andgratitude.
When we started to face anyexperience with we have with a
smile and gratitude and joy inour heart, we become so powerful
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, we become so magical andpeople will ask you oh my gosh,
you're so beautiful, you'reshining outside, outside and
inside.
How did it happened?
Because one day I realized I'ma powerful creator, so I'm the
creator of my life, I'm thecreator of my reality.
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And when I started to reallybelieve in that, my life is
switched.
I started to realize what isheaven for me, what it is to
live in heaven now, why I get towait for heaven, you know,
after I die, or something.
I can create heaven now byswitching my relationship
towards something more beautifuland meaningful, by being
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truthful first towards myselfand honest with myself and
communicated to the world what Ifeel truthfully right now.
It's changing.
Everything in life is changing.
We're changing.
We're switching.
Ourself is moving all the time.
So what's been truthful for meyesterday, maybe it will be not
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truthful what it's going to betomorrow?
We're changing.
That's what I used to say to thepeople.
Words are powerful.
Our relationship and theconnection we're creating in
this world are powerful.
The thing is, we're allpowerful.
We're all powerful, beautifulcreators.
It doesn't matter about yourbackground, like about where you
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come from or your study,whatever what you bring to the
world.
We all can bring so much lightto this magical world.
Earth needs us to continue tocreate beautiful things and I
believe more people like us cancreate the beauty and continue
to smile and be grateful that weare here and, while I'm here,
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how much I can create, how muchI can give.
Give because it's coming within.
And that's what I learned.
I said, like I'm a giver,because I choose to be a giver,
I nourish myself, Icommunicating with the world,
who I am, the way I am.
Every time is different, andthis why I'm listening to my own
(24:00):
words, because I'm in power to,to express myself with the
words I want to express myself.
And when each of us started tothink how I want to express
myself, what words I want to useevery day of my life, my, the
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life, is completely switching.
It's changing, transformingitself by being positive, by
using positive words, bynourishing yourself, instead to
say like I want to kill thatperson, or, you know, you say I
smash because the words arepowerful.
You know, like you get tounderstand.
I mean, I used to say to peopleyou get to understand how
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powerful words are powerful.
You know, like you get tounderstand.
I used to say to people you getto understand how powerful words
are, especially when you'recommunicating it with the world,
when you want something.
Do you really want that or isit just ego?
Like it's something becausemany other people want the same
things?
This is what you want?
No, truthfully, ask yourselfwhat you want to create in this
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world what you truly want.
It will come to you naturallywhen you truly want something.
It's happening in a natural,most magical and beautiful way
and what's what's really meantfor you, meant for you.
You can create it.
It's up to you.
Yes, it's not easy.
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Yes, maybe you will receive.
No, just know that.
That.
No, today can transform.
Yes, tomorrow, continue to showup, continue to give, continue
to smile.
Don't be attached to that.
No, don't give up just becauseyou receive one.
No, every time when I'm livingor, like um, traveling, and, uh,
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you know, I'm asking myself Ijust need one, yes, and I go and
ask, even like, sometimes I'mtraveling with.
When I was backpacking manyyears, I was staying in a
different like um, uh, housesand um, like couch surfing, and
after one day, me and my friendwas like, let's go like around
the house, just knock on thedoor and uh, ask uh, people to
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just stay, random people, you,we don't know, we're just like
choosing the house.
Oh, it's beautiful house, let'sgo, let's go to stay one night
there, you know, and we did itand we just knew we just need a
one, yes, and we said, okay, wedo like 20 houses just for fun,
talk to the people and after,like, normally less than 10,
normally it's between six tonine we get our yes and that's
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amazing because this is thehouses that we want to stay.
We choose the beautiful houseswhere we want to stay and we
just go and do it.
It's fun and this is how youactually learn.
No is never no.
You know.
It's always a way to get youryes when you motivated and
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you're taking it as a challengeto learn why it's not today
because tomorrow it can be yes.
So many people give up.
It's very fast.
You know, like I was justsharing um, I have a friend and,
uh, we're friends for many,many years.
It's very like also aboutrelationship.
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We know each other for over 10years and he's amazing human
being.
You know he works a lot.
He's very successful andamazing human being.
I want to have relationshipwith that person in a romantic
way, so I communicated that.
You know I was like what it'scost me to communicate and ask
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these questions.
We've been friends for so manyyears.
It's just like a conversationand many girls would be like, oh
my gosh, no, I don't want tohave this conversation.
He's my friend, so what?
He's a male, you're female, youcan always communicate.
Yes, he's successful, verysuccessful, and you, someone
like I, don't make so much money, like I don't, you know in that
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position, whatever.
No, you just go and communicatewhat you want to create and
don't be attached to yes or no,like if he says he's not ready
or he says no to you, you'restill friends.
You don't get, you're not goingto be friends just because you
don't get what you want.
That's what I used to say tothat many people.
That's what I used to say tothe many people like you, get to
be there and don't be attachedto the outcome.
Many people get so attached tothe outcome, to the picture.
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I've been one of them.
Many years ago I switch, Istarted to ask myself why I'm so
attached to that picture that Icreated inside of my head and
that picture is not real, evenit's just in my head and started
to just, you know, kind of gowith the flow and just not be
attached to the outcome.
It's all practice, it'severything in life.
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It's a practice and intentions,because people don't even think
, they don't even come to thatlevel of awareness of
understanding how much they cancreate with their intentions.
So for me, relationship isamazing things and I'm always
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very aware of my relationships.
I really value my relationship.
It's very few people who canunderstand me in this world and
I really value these people inmy life.
Sometimes they're so pain inthe ass and for me and I know,
because they are very harsh onthemselves.
That's why they're very harshon other people, because they're
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so harsh on themselves.
Not so many people can get thatlevel where they are, and
everyone you know I'm fromobservation have a filter, the
way they see the world.
This is how they theycommunicated to the world.
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Because they're setting up sucha very, very high bar for
themselves.
They want that other peoplehave the same way, the way they
live in life, and I'm not likethis.
I said to them listen, not somany people like you, guys, you
get, you get allow other peopleto be the way they are, with
(30:22):
their speed of learning orcreating or whatever.
It is not so many people in theworld who can make a billions
of dollars.
Everyone in this world has 24hours.
Not so many can use this 24hours and create the billions of
(30:43):
it of it.
Think about that?
yeah, it's very true I'm like myrelationship is very
interesting because I have abillion years, I have a million
years and my friends laughing atme like you're by, surrounded
by trust funds and all my life,and I'm just feeling like I
never been aware of it.
(31:03):
Slowly I started to look ataround and I'm like, yes, that's
true, and I'm so rich withinmyself.
Yes, I'm an orphan.
Yes, I don't have parents.
Yes, I don't like if I wouldfocus what I don't have, I would
not create it what I have rightnow and always say I have me
and it's enough, it's more thanenough.
(31:23):
I have Aisha Makara, so it'senough.
I can create anything I want inthis lifetime.
And it's true.
I just go and create and youknow, people don't see because
this thing like, oh, I don'thave family, if I would have
this, if I would have thiseducation, if I would have Every
(31:45):
time they're just focusing onwhat they don't have the outside
.
And I say like focus what youhave inside.
You have this amazing life, youhave this amazing body.
This body is so smart and sointelligent who can attract
absolutely anything you want.
(32:06):
What you want, what you want toexperience, is up to you.
Just be confident about that.
Believe I'm enough.
I'm enough to experienceabsolutely anything.
If I want to be the top, top ofathlete of something, yes, you
get to train all day long and,again, you need to have sponsors
(32:29):
.
You get.
You get to have like many, manythings that you get to have.
In the same time, you have you.
When you start to do things andreally commit to that, people
will come.
You will attract absolutelyanything.
You want to be there, to be onthat top.
Yeah, just commit that time,just knowing that, yes, I get to
(32:52):
train maybe 10 hours a day,maybe 20 hours a day in the
beginning, I don't give yourselfthat permission and just start
to do that.
You know and don't give up.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (33:06):
Well said.
Yeah, well said because you'rea living word, where many people
because you have mentioned itmany times orphaned and not
having parents.
Orphaned and not having parents, a lot of people get stuck in
the wound of not feeling loved.
Yet you are recognizing, youare that love and that just
(33:32):
because I didn't have thoseparents, it didn't take away
from my worth, where a lot ofpeople are not being able to
shift their perception with that.
They're like stuck in the lackaspect rather than okay, this is
what I have and how do I workwith this?
How do I allow myself torecognize I can feel my
experiences, not be stuck in thelack of what I think is I'm not
(33:55):
having?
Was it always like that for yousince a child?
Or did see negativity?
Aisha Makara (34:02):
so when I was a child, you know, I was giving
because I was like this is how Iwant to like, experience, love
and I want to like.
I always have these ideas and Ijust go and do it, the ideas I
had.
And when I've been orphaned andI always was thinking like, oh,
it would be nice to havesomeone coming over here give me
(34:23):
a hug, have a conversation withme.
And when I get an adult and Iwent to the university I went to
the orphan house.
I started to be that person forthe other kids, because I want
that myself.
When I was a kid and nobody wasthere, nobody come and I said
these kids, they probably alsowant the same that I wanted.
(34:44):
And I went and I started to dothat.
You know how fast it transformsthings, how much I created in
just few months, how many peoplestarted to go with me there,
how we created nonprofit.
It was completely likeunbelievable.
It was so fast when I just saidto myself like you know,
because sometimes people likethinking what if?
(35:07):
And they don't do anything andI don't have time to think, I
just go into and after I see theresults because, yes, sometimes
it's working very well, othertimes not, and I decided I have
so many ideas at the same time.
I'm just one human being, so Iget to be way more intentional.
What I want to create in theworld, what I want to create,
(35:29):
you know, for other people, formyself.
And first I started to alsorealize I'm here to please
myself, because I'm a peoplepleaser, and I decided, decided,
like, I get to first pleasemyself.
That's when I started to dothat.
My world is changing completelybecause I started to
communicate with other peoplewhen they started to question me
(35:50):
or want me to feel guilty, andI said to them listen, I worked
through this.
Don't push it on me, don't putit on me.
Please Go and work on yourself.
Who are you to tell me what Iget to feel?
I'm in my body for over 30years of my life.
I'm my best friend for myself.
(36:10):
I work through this.
Go and work on yourself.
Don't push me, don't tell mehow I get to live my life.
Go, live your life, get yourlife together and live it.
I'm not here to teach you andyou know.
I just here to guide you, be anexample, and you get to be open
enough to learn and respect itand appreciate it.
(36:37):
First, learn to appreciateyourself.
When people started toappreciate themselves, I learned
people you know the people whonever wrote the book, how many
opinions they have, how I get towrite my book, how I get to do
this.
And then people who wrote thebook, who went through the
experience.
They are so supportive.
They give you hug, amazing job,keep going.
(36:58):
I understand it was not easy,but you're doing amazing.
Look at the colors you chooseit.
It's so cool.
You went through the process.
So I said, the people whocreated something in their life
and actually have done and wentthrough the work.
They're always supportive.
They're always giving, alwaysgiving you a hug and this love
and always navigating you andguiding you and giving you.
(37:21):
You know the network and the.
You know the people who hasn'tdone anything in their life,
just complaining and telling youhow you get to live your life.
They haven't achieved anythingin their own life and I was like
why I get to listen to thesepeople who hasn't done anything
in their life, who never wentout of their own town?
(37:42):
Why, yeah?
And I used to say to the peoplelisten, why are you listening
to your mother, why are youlistening to your father who
hasn't done anything in theirlife, just complaining and doing
nothing you know and teachingyou about what, what they can
teach you right now.
Go and get a mentor you know,find the person you can look up
(38:04):
to.
Just talk Right now.
We have so many ways to connectwith these people and just
share your story, share who youare, ask for support.
You know how many people willsay yes to you.
90% of these mentors will sayyes to you.
These people will say yes toyou and will give you their time
(38:24):
.
You know how many mentors Ihave.
Who makes billions, who help meto live my potential and living
my dreams.
You know, and I'm just.
You know, I'm just going andtalk to these people directly,
asking for their support, fortheir guidance, because this is
where I want to be one day.
(38:47):
For me, they are example.
Yes, maybe you don't see themon the TV or whatever.
These people for me, who is inthe TVs?
They are not example.
I cannot look at them as up.
None of the superstars,whatever.
None of them I cannot look upas example.
They're all fucked up in myeyes.
They cannot even manage theirrelationships.
(39:10):
You know how they can be examplefor other people for what, who
can manage very well therelationships, who can be very
healthy with the body, who'svery loving and caring in the
first place and who really caresabout humanity and planet Earth
, have a good relationship witheveryone around them.
(39:33):
This is where I want to aim.
You know, that's my kind ofgoal and I would like to be as
house as I can.
I would like to be as happy asI can, humble as I can.
That's my goal, not the, theshowing off every time for what.
(39:54):
You know, that's for me.
I'm very selective who I wantto look up to, and many times
it's just me, actually, becauseI cannot find.
It's not easy to find thepeople that I can look up to.
Everything is fucked up anyway.
So, you get to be just moreselective which direction you
want to fuck up your life.
(40:15):
In some ways, you know Exactly.
You know it's repetition, thehistory repeating itself, many
things repeating itself.
I look at my life as a winner.
I'm a winner.
I'm here to win.
By being here in the planetEarth is already a win, it is.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (40:32):
It is, it is.
Aisha Makara (40:34):
The rest is just bonus.
By living this magical,beautiful, colorful life, it's a
bonus, you know, to living indreams, to get clarity on your
vision and mission, it's a bonus.
Very much so, and this is thereality.
Get clear on your relationship,get the like.
(40:59):
Block your parents time to time, or your sister and brothers
your best friends becausethey're dragging, dragging you
down and you want to go up.
You.
You want to lift yourself up bybeing that example sometimes.
Yes, it's not easy to blockyour mother for three months,
but the only things what she'sdoing is just worry about you,
(41:20):
telling, telling you how you getto live your life.
She hasn't done anything in herlife, how she can help you to
live a better life if she hasn'tdone anything.
That she cannot even work onher relationship very well.
She's fighting with the fatherevery day for no reason.
Sometimes why?
(41:41):
Why she's fighting with thefather every day for no reason.
Sometimes you know why, why youwant to have more peaceful,
beautiful and magicalrelationships.
So go and find these people whohas it.
Yeah, ask for support, ask forquestions.
You know, be curious.
Curiosity is a magical tool.
It is Learn from other peopleto be curious.
(42:05):
Kids are curious all the time.
Kids are so curious, they'realways asking questions.
They don't even think that thisquestion is stupid or not.
They just go in very curiouslyasking all these questions
because this is what they do.
They're curious and they'represent in the moment.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (42:23):
So when you're learning and you're
curious, be present, listencarefully, yeah, and that's what
I'm inviting people to do yeah,the word that comes up for me
is courage.
With you, it takes a lot ofcourage to be the warrior of
taking responsibility for yourlife, for your perception and
(42:44):
how your experiences feel,rather than dump it on other
people and tell other people howto make you feel You're taking
that full responsibility andalso being self-aware that you
know humaning with other humansis very challenging.
Yet we can work in community.
Yet you also can like a lot ofpeople think that you have to be
(43:07):
open to everybody and it's likeno, not every.
Like oil and water don't mix.
It doesn't mean oil is bad, itdoesn't mean water is bad, it
just doesn't mix.
So understand what works withyour energy.
You know some people that cango at a slow pace be around slow
pace.
Other people that want to gofast be fast.
Also, expose yourself to otherthings because you want to be
(43:29):
able to stretch, you want to beable to see what other things
are hiding in you that want tobe developed.
Yet the word that really justshines out is courage, like even
just hearing you travel and theway that, like you know, just
knocking and asking, not beingafraid of the no's because
you're already still in the sameposition.
(43:49):
It's that I can have anopportunity of more.
Yet if I don't ask, then I'mjust going to stay exactly at
the same place.
The no didn't put me in anyother place.
But psychologically that's notalways easy to tap into and
recognize that, because we getall kinds of different feelings
or sensations that can come upwhere it's like okay, but we can
(44:11):
still get that, yes.
So courage really stands outfor me when I hear you speaking
and the energy that you have.
Will you let the listeners knowwhere they can find you and
where they can find this bookthat you've written, so that
they can be infected with yourenergy?
Aisha Makara (44:31):
Yes, you can find me on my website, aishatoday is
A-I-S-H-A dot today where peoplecan see my projects that I'm
working on, my art.
That is in the space.
The article um like about mymentorship program as well,
(44:53):
about my book, and also you canfind my book is amazon joyful
living guidebook by aisha makara.
Um, it's with my art in it aswell, so you can also look at my
art.
Uh, and the differentsuggestions I or guidance I call
like because it's a guidebook,just like examples of what it is
(45:15):
to live a joyful life.
I believe everyone can createthe idea of their own joyful
life and following it bythemselves and practice it by
themselves.
Also, I'm also inviting peopleto get a clear idea of what it
is to be a great human, a greatmother, a great father.
(45:38):
What it is is get clarity onthese different topics in your
life and just be it, practice itday by day.
Maybe make a list, you know,and just like what I have, what
I don't have, what I get to addwhat I get to you know, kind of
take off, because one life andas clear as you are, as clear as
(46:07):
you are, the better life youare.
We are just partners of habitsand our habits create our life.
Our words create our action.
Our action creates our habits.
So it's all together.
It's.
You know, every time you readoff one habit, you're editing a
new habit.
So also it's everything.
It's a perspective.
Also, know what will work forme probably will not work for
(46:28):
you.
So be aware of it.
Everyone is different, everyonehas a unique way of being,
everyone has a unique skill set.
So just use that that benefityour life.
So just use that that benefitsyour life and that helps you to
(46:49):
create that joyful, beautifullife that you want to live and
live your dreams always.
I always live my dreams.
I love to live my dreams.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (46:54):
I'm addicted to that, actually it
feels you, it feels you now fromour conversation.
Will you leave the listeners anintention that will empower
them?
Aisha Makara (47:08):
be patient with yourself.
Patience, it's a great tool.
The like we used to say, moscowwas not built in one day.
Everything takes time.
So be patient and give yourselfevery time hug and kisses when
you have done something verygood, and just give hug and
(47:31):
kisses.
This is what I do.
I used to say, like everyone,all my friends in my life, it's
all about hug and kisses.
I don't want to, I don't acceptanything else.
Even it's not easy conversationHug and kisses first and after
we can have a conversation.
I love it.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (47:47):
I love it.
Well, you know what this hasbeen a delight and, like I said,
I love being in the energy ofyou creating, sharing that space
with us right now, before youput yourself out into the world
again and share your delight andyour joy and your creativity.
I look forward to followingyour journey and I really hope
(48:10):
that we'll stay connected.
You are a ball of energy andit's really great to feel your
presence, so please remember tobe kind to yourself.
Aisha Makara (48:21):
Yeah, joyful living, namaste.
We all get to be kind toyourself.
Yeah, joyful living, namaste.
We all get to be kind toourselves.
That's my one of the also myinvitation to the people.
I'm kind with myself and Iwould love people be more kind
with themselves, because worldis so beautiful when we started
to learn about kindness and loveand caring like and safety and
(48:47):
security, that I'm safe, I'msecured, that universe loves me,
god is always with me and youknow my angels, my archangels.
I used to say like I have armyof supporters.
I don't see them and they'rehere with me exactly.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (49:07):
Thank you, aisha, for being you thank you.
Aisha Makara (49:10):
Thank you for having me enjoy your living.
Welcome to the Lift One Self podcast.
I'm your host, nat Nat, andtoday I have Aisha with me and
we're gonna, you know, delveinto what intention can do with
your life and how you can startactivating more joy and
connection in your relationshipswith yourself and with others.
So, aisha, would you be willingto introduce yourself to myself
(00:22):
and the listeners and let usknow a little bit about yourself
?
Aisha Makara (00:27):
Hello everyone.
I'm Aisha Makara, artist,author and entrepreneur.
I'm living right now in Lisbon,portugal.
It's a wonderful weather,really happy to have this
amazing weather right nowbecause it was raining all so
many months six months.
It was too much and cold.
(00:48):
Um really happy to be here,really happy to um create more
awareness and joy in life of my,of my own life and the life of
the people.
It's been an amazing journey sofar and so many amazing
experiences I have and I wouldlike to share with you guys the
(01:12):
experiences and the things Ilearned so far about life.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (01:17):
Okay, I love the mural behind you.
Aisha Makara (01:21):
It's very yeah, I created it, by the way it's very
beautiful.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (01:24):
It's my artwork.
Yeah, it's beautiful.
I created it.
By the way, it's very beautifulartwork.
Aisha Makara (01:26):
Yeah, it's beautiful my uh solo art
exhibition is going to be justin a week, right oh?
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (01:31):
that's a lot of um, excitement and stress
and like trying to get all thelast details.
So I love that we're in thisenergy with you right now and
you know cheering you on, alsosupporting you, that it's
beautiful to see, that you'regoing to be, you know exposing
(01:51):
yourself and sharing yourself,because what people may not
realize for an artist, when theyput something out into the
world, it's like a baby.
It's like a child, so it's veryvulnerable and it's very tender
.
Yet it's very exciting andfinally feeling seen and being
able to share that energy andexpression.
So I'm excited for you and I'mexcited to be in the delight of
(02:16):
this energy with you.
Aisha Makara (02:18):
Thank you.
Yes, I've been, like you know,created a lot of art and
collaborated with many differentartists.
You know, created a lot of artand collaborated with many
different artists.
I've been, um, you know, kindof like uh, setting up different
um art shows around the world,especially like in united states
.
I just moved out from unitedstates to europe, uh like seven
months ago, eight months ago,and for me it was an interesting
(02:40):
transition because I'm feelinglike completely different and I
learned how exhausted I actuallywas when I arrived to Europe,
how much we in a hamster wheelin United States, how much we
just go, go, go, go go.
We don't even check in withourself because we don't have
that time.
(03:00):
We're always on the go and um.
So I was, I never been almostsick when I was living in the
united states, because you don'thave that time and um.
So I decided to create my soloexhibition.
Even so, I had opportunitieslast, you know, in the united
(03:20):
states as as well.
My last place was New York.
I couldn't, just I've been soexhausted and tired so I
couldn't get out of me and thatwork or artwork.
So I understood that I'mcompletely burned out and
exhausted and it's like empty,you know, like my body, my soul,
(03:43):
my mind, my mind, my heart.
Everything was completely likeempty.
So I just started to um learnwhat?
How did it even happen?
you know, and um as a giver.
I, you know, I see that worldneeds more givers, and um more
(04:05):
givers we have in this world,more beautiful world can be,
because givers, they're powerfulcreators, because they're
always just giving, giving, give, and they don't, you know,
expect anything back, becausethey just the way they are.
You know, this is the way I am,and one day I was just asking
myself why, why I'm like this,why I'm doing these things to
(04:31):
myself, why I'm communicatingthings with other people and
over 90 percent of my, my wordsand my time I show up because
this is what I want to do.
And why are the people not likethat?
Why I started to like thinkabout that more, and you know
(04:51):
deeper, because I didn't havethis experience when I was
living in Europe.
You know, yes, people maybedidn't shop time to time, and
they always like bringing thesolutions and they were always
kind of like working together.
Um, you know, collaborating andfrom the heart, in america I
experienced different things.
(05:13):
So, for me, I just get burnedout in such a level that I've
never been before, and so ittook me a time to recover.
You know, like like I go, liketo heal myself, so I give myself
like about six months to justrelax and do nothing.
I would say like this and now Igain in the creative flow doing
(05:35):
a lot of art, working on mysolo art exhibition, create a
lot of art.
I just love it.
So it's, you know it's, andthis is what you're learning
about life.
Life is up and down and themost important what we can gift
to ourself is to check in withourself, asking what's going on,
(05:55):
what's happening, why I'm doingit to myself, and that's very
powerful question to ask yeah,as you say, a check-in.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (06:08):
Would you join me in a mindful moment so
that we can ground ourselves andgo deeper into the conversation
?
Aisha Makara (06:14):
let's do it all right.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (06:17):
So I'll ask you to get comfortable in
your seating and, if it's safeto do so, gently close your eyes
and you're going to beginbreathing in and out through
your nose, bringing yourawareness to watching the rhythm
of your breath.
You're not going to try andcontrol your breath, you're just
going to be aware of its rhythm, allowing it to guide you into
(06:40):
your body.
There may be some sensations orfeelings coming up.
That's okay, let them surface.
You're safe to feel.
You're safe to let go,surrender the need to control,
(07:02):
release the need to resist andjust be, be with your breath,
drop deeper into your body.
Now there may be some thoughtsor to-do lists that have popped
up, and that's okay.
Gently, bring your awarenessback to your breath, creating
(07:27):
space between the awareness andthe thoughts and dropping deeper
into your body, being in thespace of presence, of being.
Again, more thoughts may havepopped up.
Gently, bring your awarenessback to your breath, beginning
(07:53):
again, creating even more spacebetween the awareness and the
thoughts and completelysurrendering into the body, into
presence, into the body, intopresence, into the space of
being.
Just keeping that awareness onthe breath, just allowing
(08:21):
yourself to be, just allowingyourself to be Now coming into
your senses, into the moment, atyour own time and at your own
pace.
You're going to gently openyour eyes while staying with
your breath.
(08:41):
How's your heart doing?
Aisha Makara (08:49):
My heart is peaceful and happy.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (08:52):
Very happy and I'm so blessed, really
blessed.
Before we started recording,you were speaking about the
weather and how there's beensuch a dramatic change in
temperature and sometimes wepush through and we don't
realize how much it impacts ourphysical energy, body and what
our capacity is.
And you know, in a world thatalways tells you you don't have
(09:14):
enough time, that's where we cango into burnout of not
listening to the cues the bodyis asking us to slow down, to
nurture, to take care of, to beaware of where we are and what
is, you know, our capacity tooffer.
You also dived into the givingand wondering well, why am I
(09:37):
giving so much and other peoplearen't?
And then this extreme burnoutand some of that giving is a
trauma response.
It gives you a sense of safety,it gives you a sense of
empowerment that if I'm givingthen there's no threat of
somebody taking anything away orthat they'll ask anything of me
.
I think the biggest work from agiver is to allow themselves to
(10:01):
receive, so it's reciprocal, isto allow themselves to receive,
so it's reciprocal, and that isa tremendous work in the body
because viscerally it feels likeI'm not allowed to do this or
it goes against the narrative ofa quote unquote good person or
actually feeling the fear.
So what did that look like foryou when you've been resting for
(10:22):
these past few months andreflecting and being intro uh,
you know, introspective andhonoring your body they actually
very interesting experience,because when I was living in new
york, I, you know, I was askingfor that support.
Aisha Makara (10:43):
Like you know, I was telling to the people I'm
very tired.
You know, I cannot right nowproduce things and I cannot like
even like continue to give.
So right now I would like toreceive, and I didn't even have
an energy to fight, you know,even like to speak, and it was
(11:04):
just like in such a like, um,sadness, in such a deep, deep
sadness, that people justcontinue to take and take and
take.
That's no, even nothing isthere to take, but they're still
taking whatever they can.
And I was just, I was feelinglike, oh my gosh, I just want to
(11:24):
leave this place, because I wasnot anymore like feeling like
would I leave longer?
I didn't have any kind ofambitious or goals or like I was
just like, if I ever die today,I just die.
You know, it's okay, that'swhat I was came to, the like,
(11:45):
it's like point of my life on,like that's kind of like very
deep, deep grounding, that, umunderstanding that it's all okay
and that was okay.
To like continue, even I wasempty, continue to give whatever
I could, because that's whatpeople was demanding.
Even so, I communicated veryclearly what I need and these
(12:10):
people didn't.
Like I'm surrounded by like Icall like adult kids, you know,
like who's consistently justcrying and asking for more
attention and more attention,and me like as a mature, more
like listening to others.
I'm like I'm not here tobabysit these people.
In the same time, they'reconsistently demanding that I'm
(12:30):
here to babysit them.
And um, and I started to kindof create this boundaries around
me and when people likecontinue to ask me, like can you
babysit me not like I'm, it'smetaphorically and just take
care of me or like help me withthat, help do this for me.
This I said listen, I do itbecause I want to do that,
(12:52):
because I have capacity to dothat, and if I don't want to do
that, I would communicate withyou and you cannot like continue
to demand from me because Idon't want to give it.
It's not, it's I'm adult humanbeing, you adult human being, so
please take responsibility overyour actions.
(13:15):
So I started to communicatethat and the funny things, what
happened is that when I startedto work on my boundaries of my
bubble I go like a joyful bubbleI started to get more the
energy within from my heart,more and more.
It took me a lot of time tokind of getting this, this
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powers back into me andcommunicate that.
And when I moved to Europe, myfriends was like completely
different.
They were like, take your time,stay here as long as you want,
be here, just, you know, donothing.
Just let's go to the nice place.
Nice, you know, connect withthe nature.
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Let's go to the nice dinner.
Let's take like you to travel.
Let's you know, like being socaring and loving that I was
just receiving this love andthis caring.
Yes, some of them kind of morelike military style, I would say
because they're like oh, thisis like my house, this is my
rules, and please like respectmy rules.
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But I always, when peoplecommunicate, I respect their
rules.
So we continue to move and Ialso learned many people have
expectations.
Even so they open the door foryou.
They have this a way ofexpecting something from you.
Even so they don't communicateit with you directly.
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And I like direct communication, I don't make an expectation.
I think like in life youshouldn't have expectation.
You can give because you wantto give and you receive because
also you want to receive.
It's everything is kind ofreciprocal right.
It's giving and receiving Atthe same time.
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Many people have expectationsand when you don't meet their
expectations, they started toblame you or putting guilt on
you and telling you that you'rethe worst or I don't know
whatever in their mind becauseyou didn't meet their
expectations.
And the funny thing is whathappened with me, like when
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people opening the doors for meI knew, knew already, like do
you have any expectations?
I'm very direct.
It's like what type ofexpectations you have for me,
because it's up to me to giveyou that or not, because right
now I'm already in such a levelof emptiness, so even you will
have the expectations from meand I feel it.
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I cannot give it to you becauseI, I just don't have it.
You know, I didn't have thatenergy to give that you want me
to give, and I feel like you'reconsistently pushing me to give
you something that I don't have.
And that's why I started tocommunicate better as well with
other people.
And the funny things whathappening in reality?
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People don't listen and everytime I'm communicating with them
, in my mind I don't communicateso much, it's not so many
things I'm expressing veryclearly and direct.
Even so, people don't listen.
They, they don't.
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They don't have capacity tolisten other human being and, in
the moment, their needs.
They're just thinking aboutthemselves, but they want to
take what's their expectations?
They don't see other humanbeing in the eyes.
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They don't see, they don't feelthem, they're just thinking
just so selfishly aboutthemselves.
You know why this persondoesn't meet my expectations,
why this person doesn't want togo in this box I'm putting.
I want to put this person inthis box, and every, every time
I'm with people, I'm tellingthem each of us is unique,
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beautiful, magical by itself.
We're all free.
That's why I don't get attachedof no or yes or I don't have
expectations for years andthat's kind of way of me living
and this is why I wrote the bookJoyful Living Guidebook, where
I finally express my philosophyof life that I was living from
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since I'm a teenager and I justdon't have this Like.
I was always like asking whypeople have that, why I don't
have that, why my communicationis very direct and clear and I
hear what other people tell meand they don't hear what I'm
saying to them, because manypeople don't use the direct
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communication, they don't usethe clear goals and clear way of
communicating with gentlenessand love.
It's all about me, me, me, me,not us.
In my mind, every time I'mcreating a space or every time
I'm with the people, it's alwaysus, it's we.
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When I was 18 with my firstboyfriend and I was like he says
to me I'm so smart, I got thebest school, best education.
Here you are orphan fromnowhere.
And I I said to him listen, wedecided to go together.
Right now we're equal.
It doesn't matter how educationyou have, where you are, what
parents you have and I don'thave parents, it doesn't matter.
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Now we want to walk togetherand we're equal.
You know we're going togethernow and that philosophy already
was me, like all my life.
You know, now it's not me andyou, it's us, it's we.
And in his head it's never beena week.
In my head it's always been aweek, you know.
So it was the very differentway of connecting with each
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other and, of course, as a veryyoung woman, you don't realize
how powerful it is to be in thatspace, to create that space.
That's why I was travelingaround the world and always,
wherever I go, I create a familybecause of this idea of we I
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have inside of me and the peoplelike oh, I'm scared of this
idea of we I have inside of meand the people like, oh, I'm
scared of this.
I'm scared, yes, I'm scared too.
I was very scared when I movedfirst time to America and it was
so scary of everything that'shappening, the way people acting
and people treating each other.
It was so much violence andthese power games and it was
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very, very scary.
And when I was like in my early20s and I decided to move to
Los Angeles, you know, I justsaw all these power games and
all these different things.
That's what's happening.
It was so scary and I wasfeeling like, oh my gosh, this
is how people treat each other.
I was not ready for thatexperience.
I was feeling like it's notsomething I would like to see in
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the world.
I don't want to be one of thesepeople.
I didn't know who I want to beand at the same time I said,
like I get to go on a discoveryto understand who I am.
And, um, like it took me awhile, it took me some years to
actually, you know, go in thatexploration of myself and
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understand who I am, the way Iam.
So I decided, like it's lifehalf up and down it's not
decided, but like it was justlike I started to observe and
what happened is like when we goon a discovery of who I am like
asking this question.
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In my life, I was like askingthis question what is true love
is what it is to experience truelove, and I'm learning through
my life I'm in my 30s right now.
I'm learning through my lifethat the true love it's
relationships, relationshipsthat we will carry through all
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our life with people that we'resharing the experiences with,
and many times people have afilter, or through the church,
through the religion, or throughthe different like beliefs.
We have this like a goodexperience and bad experience.
In reality, we just have theexperience of life.
It's nothing good and bad.
(21:27):
It's only experience itself andthe way we're facing that
experience with a smile andgratitude.
When we started to face anyexperience with we have with a
smile and gratitude and joy inour heart, we become so powerful
(21:47):
, we become so magical andpeople will ask you oh my gosh,
you're so beautiful, you'reshining outside, outside and
inside.
How did it happened?
Because one day I realized I'ma powerful creator, so I'm the
creator of my life, I'm thecreator of my reality.
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And when I started to reallybelieve in that, my life is
switched.
I started to realize what isheaven for me, what it is to
live in heaven now, why I get towait for heaven, you know,
after I die, or something.
I can create heaven now byswitching my relationship
towards something more beautifuland meaningful, by being
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truthful first towards myselfand honest with myself and
communicated to the world what Ifeel truthfully right now.
It's changing.
Everything in life is changing.
We're changing.
We're switching.
Ourself is moving all the time.
So what's been truthful for meyesterday, maybe it will be not
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truthful what it's going to betomorrow?
We're changing.
That's what I used to say to thepeople.
Words are powerful.
Our relationship and theconnection we're creating in
this world are powerful.
The thing is, we're allpowerful.
We're all powerful, beautifulcreators.
It doesn't matter about yourbackground, like about where you
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come from or your study,whatever what you bring to the
world.
We all can bring so much lightto this magical world.
Earth needs us to continue tocreate beautiful things and I
believe more people like us cancreate the beauty and continue
to smile and be grateful that weare here and, while I'm here,
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how much I can create, how muchI can give.
Give because it's coming within.
And that's what I learned.
I said, like I'm a giver,because I choose to be a giver,
I nourish myself, Icommunicating with the world,
who I am, the way I am.
Every time is different, andthis why I'm listening to my own
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words, because I'm in power to,to express myself with the
words I want to express myself.
And when each of us started tothink how I want to express
myself, what words I want to useevery day of my life, my, the
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life, is completely switching.
It's changing, transformingitself by being positive, by
using positive words, bynourishing yourself, instead to
say like I want to kill thatperson, or, you know, you say I
smash because the words arepowerful.
You know, like you get tounderstand.
I mean, I used to say to peopleyou get to understand how
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powerful words are powerful.
You know, like you get tounderstand.
I used to say to people you getto understand how powerful words
are, especially when you'recommunicating it with the world,
when you want something.
Do you really want that or isit just ego?
Like it's something becausemany other people want the same
things?
This is what you want?
No, truthfully, ask yourselfwhat you want to create in this
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world what you truly want.
It will come to you naturallywhen you truly want something.
It's happening in a natural,most magical and beautiful way
and what's what's really meantfor you, meant for you.
You can create it.
It's up to you.
Yes, it's not easy.
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Yes, maybe you will receive.
No, just know that.
That.
No, today can transform.
Yes, tomorrow, continue to showup, continue to give, continue
to smile.
Don't be attached to that.
No, don't give up just becauseyou receive one.
No, every time when I'm livingor, like um, traveling, and, uh,
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you know, I'm asking myself Ijust need one, yes, and I go and
ask, even like, sometimes I'mtraveling with.
When I was backpacking manyyears, I was staying in a
different like um, uh, housesand um, like couch surfing, and
after one day, me and my friendwas like, let's go like around
the house, just knock on thedoor and uh, ask uh, people to
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just stay, random people, you,we don't know, we're just like
choosing the house.
Oh, it's beautiful house, let'sgo, let's go to stay one night
there, you know, and we did itand we just knew we just need a
one, yes, and we said, okay, wedo like 20 houses just for fun,
talk to the people and after,like, normally less than 10,
normally it's between six tonine we get our yes and that's
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amazing because this is thehouses that we want to stay.
We choose the beautiful houseswhere we want to stay and we
just go and do it.
It's fun and this is how youactually learn.
No is never no.
You know.
It's always a way to get youryes when you motivated and
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you're taking it as a challengeto learn why it's not today
because tomorrow it can be yes.
So many people give up.
It's very fast.
You know, like I was justsharing um, I have a friend and,
uh, we're friends for many,many years.
It's very like also aboutrelationship.
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We know each other for over 10years and he's amazing human
being.
You know he works a lot.
He's very successful andamazing human being.
I want to have relationshipwith that person in a romantic
way, so I communicated that.
You know I was like what it'scost me to communicate and ask
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these questions.
We've been friends for so manyyears.
It's just like a conversationand many girls would be like, oh
my gosh, no, I don't want tohave this conversation.
He's my friend, so what?
He's a male, you're female, youcan always communicate.
Yes, he's successful, verysuccessful, and you, someone
like I, don't make so much money, like I don't, you know in that
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position, whatever.
No, you just go and communicatewhat you want to create and
don't be attached to yes or no,like if he says he's not ready
or he says no to you, you'restill friends.
You don't get, you're not goingto be friends just because you
don't get what you want.
That's what I used to say tothat many people.
That's what I used to say tothe many people like you, get to
be there and don't be attachedto the outcome.
Many people get so attached tothe outcome, to the picture.
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I've been one of them.
Many years ago I switch, Istarted to ask myself why I'm so
attached to that picture that Icreated inside of my head and
that picture is not real, evenit's just in my head and started
to just, you know, kind of gowith the flow and just not be
attached to the outcome.
It's all practice, it'severything in life.
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It's a practice and intentions,because people don't even think
, they don't even come to thatlevel of awareness of
understanding how much they cancreate with their intentions.
So for me, relationship isamazing things and I'm always
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very aware of my relationships.
I really value my relationship.
It's very few people who canunderstand me in this world and
I really value these people inmy life.
Sometimes they're so pain inthe ass and for me and I know,
because they are very harsh onthemselves.
That's why they're very harshon other people, because they're
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so harsh on themselves.
Not so many people can get thatlevel where they are, and
everyone you know I'm fromobservation have a filter, the
way they see the world.
This is how they theycommunicated to the world.
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Because they're setting up sucha very, very high bar for
themselves.
They want that other peoplehave the same way, the way they
live in life, and I'm not likethis.
I said to them listen, not somany people like you, guys, you
get, you get allow other peopleto be the way they are, with
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their speed of learning orcreating or whatever.
It is not so many people in theworld who can make a billions
of dollars.
Everyone in this world has 24hours.
Not so many can use this 24hours and create the billions of
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it of it.
Think about that?
yeah, it's very true I'm like myrelationship is very
interesting because I have abillion years, I have a million
years and my friends laughing atme like you're by, surrounded
by trust funds and all my life,and I'm just feeling like I
never been aware of it.
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Slowly I started to look ataround and I'm like, yes, that's
true, and I'm so rich withinmyself.
Yes, I'm an orphan.
Yes, I don't have parents.
Yes, I don't like if I wouldfocus what I don't have, I would
not create it what I have rightnow and always say I have me
and it's enough, it's more thanenough.
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I have Aisha Makara, so it'senough.
I can create anything I want inthis lifetime.
And it's true.
I just go and create and youknow, people don't see because
this thing like, oh, I don'thave family, if I would have
this, if I would have thiseducation, if I would have Every
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time they're just focusing onwhat they don't have the outside
.
And I say like focus what youhave inside.
You have this amazing life, youhave this amazing body.
This body is so smart and sointelligent who can attract
absolutely anything you want.
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What you want, what you want toexperience, is up to you.
Just be confident about that.
Believe I'm enough.
I'm enough to experienceabsolutely anything.
If I want to be the top, top ofathlete of something, yes, you
get to train all day long and,again, you need to have sponsors
(32:29):
.
You get.
You get to have like many, manythings that you get to have.
In the same time, you have you.
When you start to do things andreally commit to that, people
will come.
You will attract absolutelyanything.
You want to be there, to be onthat top.
Yeah, just commit that time,just knowing that, yes, I get to
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train maybe 10 hours a day,maybe 20 hours a day in the
beginning, I don't give yourselfthat permission and just start
to do that.
You know and don't give up.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (33:06):
Well said.
Yeah, well said because you'rea living word, where many people
because you have mentioned itmany times orphaned and not
having parents.
Orphaned and not having parents, a lot of people get stuck in
the wound of not feeling loved.
Yet you are recognizing, youare that love and that just
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because I didn't have thoseparents, it didn't take away
from my worth, where a lot ofpeople are not being able to
shift their perception with that.
They're like stuck in the lackaspect rather than okay, this is
what I have and how do I workwith this?
How do I allow myself torecognize I can feel my
experiences, not be stuck in thelack of what I think is I'm not
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having?
Was it always like that for yousince a child?
Or did see negativity?
Aisha Makara (34:02):
so when I was a child, you know, I was giving
because I was like this is how Iwant to like, experience, love
and I want to like.
I always have these ideas and Ijust go and do it, the ideas I
had.
And when I've been orphaned andI always was thinking like, oh,
it would be nice to havesomeone coming over here give me
(34:23):
a hug, have a conversation withme.
And when I get an adult and Iwent to the university I went to
the orphan house.
I started to be that person forthe other kids, because I want
that myself.
When I was a kid and nobody wasthere, nobody come and I said
these kids, they probably alsowant the same that I wanted.
(34:44):
And I went and I started to dothat.
You know how fast it transformsthings, how much I created in
just few months, how many peoplestarted to go with me there,
how we created nonprofit.
It was completely likeunbelievable.
It was so fast when I just saidto myself like you know,
because sometimes people likethinking what if?
(35:07):
And they don't do anything andI don't have time to think, I
just go into and after I see theresults because, yes, sometimes
it's working very well, othertimes not, and I decided I have
so many ideas at the same time.
I'm just one human being, so Iget to be way more intentional.
What I want to create in theworld, what I want to create,
(35:29):
you know, for other people, formyself.
And first I started to alsorealize I'm here to please
myself, because I'm a peoplepleaser, and I decided, decided,
like, I get to first pleasemyself.
That's when I started to dothat.
My world is changing completelybecause I started to
communicate with other peoplewhen they started to question me
(35:50):
or want me to feel guilty, andI said to them listen, I worked
through this.
Don't push it on me, don't putit on me.
Please Go and work on yourself.
Who are you to tell me what Iget to feel?
I'm in my body for over 30years of my life.
I'm my best friend for myself.
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I work through this.
Go and work on yourself.
Don't push me, don't tell mehow I get to live my life.
Go, live your life, get yourlife together and live it.
I'm not here to teach you andyou know.
I just here to guide you, be anexample, and you get to be open
enough to learn and respect itand appreciate it.
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First, learn to appreciateyourself.
When people started toappreciate themselves, I learned
people you know the people whonever wrote the book, how many
opinions they have, how I get towrite my book, how I get to do
this.
And then people who wrote thebook, who went through the
experience.
They are so supportive.
They give you hug, amazing job,keep going.
(36:58):
I understand it was not easy,but you're doing amazing.
Look at the colors you chooseit.
It's so cool.
You went through the process.
So I said, the people whocreated something in their life
and actually have done and wentthrough the work.
They're always supportive.
They're always giving, alwaysgiving you a hug and this love
and always navigating you andguiding you and giving you.
(37:21):
You know the network and the.
You know the people who hasn'tdone anything in their life,
just complaining and telling youhow you get to live your life.
They haven't achieved anythingin their own life and I was like
why I get to listen to thesepeople who hasn't done anything
in their life, who never wentout of their own town?
(37:42):
Why, yeah?
And I used to say to the peoplelisten, why are you listening
to your mother, why are youlistening to your father who
hasn't done anything in theirlife, just complaining and doing
nothing you know and teachingyou about what, what they can
teach you right now.
Go and get a mentor you know,find the person you can look up
(38:04):
to.
Just talk Right now.
We have so many ways to connectwith these people and just
share your story, share who youare, ask for support.
You know how many people willsay yes to you.
90% of these mentors will sayyes to you.
These people will say yes toyou and will give you their time
(38:24):
.
You know how many mentors Ihave.
Who makes billions, who help meto live my potential and living
my dreams.
You know, and I'm just.
You know, I'm just going andtalk to these people directly,
asking for their support, fortheir guidance, because this is
where I want to be one day.
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For me, they are example.
Yes, maybe you don't see themon the TV or whatever.
These people for me, who is inthe TVs?
They are not example.
I cannot look at them as up.
None of the superstars,whatever.
None of them I cannot look upas example.
They're all fucked up in myeyes.
They cannot even manage theirrelationships.
(39:10):
You know how they can be examplefor other people for what, who
can manage very well therelationships, who can be very
healthy with the body, who'svery loving and caring in the
first place and who really caresabout humanity and planet Earth
, have a good relationship witheveryone around them.
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This is where I want to aim.
You know, that's my kind ofgoal and I would like to be as
house as I can.
I would like to be as happy asI can, humble as I can.
That's my goal, not the, theshowing off every time for what.
(39:54):
You know, that's for me.
I'm very selective who I wantto look up to, and many times
it's just me, actually, becauseI cannot find.
It's not easy to find thepeople that I can look up to.
Everything is fucked up anyway.
So, you get to be just moreselective which direction you
want to fuck up your life.
(40:15):
In some ways, you know Exactly.
You know it's repetition, thehistory repeating itself, many
things repeating itself.
I look at my life as a winner.
I'm a winner.
I'm here to win.
By being here in the planetEarth is already a win, it is.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (40:32):
It is, it is.
Aisha Makara (40:34):
The rest is just bonus.
By living this magical,beautiful, colorful life, it's a
bonus, you know, to living indreams, to get clarity on your
vision and mission, it's a bonus.
Very much so, and this is thereality.
Get clear on your relationship,get the like.
(40:59):
Block your parents time to time, or your sister and brothers
your best friends becausethey're dragging, dragging you
down and you want to go up.
You.
You want to lift yourself up bybeing that example sometimes.
Yes, it's not easy to blockyour mother for three months,
but the only things what she'sdoing is just worry about you,
(41:20):
telling, telling you how you getto live your life.
She hasn't done anything in herlife, how she can help you to
live a better life if she hasn'tdone anything.
That she cannot even work onher relationship very well.
She's fighting with the fatherevery day for no reason.
Sometimes why?
(41:41):
Why she's fighting with thefather every day for no reason.
Sometimes you know why, why youwant to have more peaceful,
beautiful and magicalrelationships.
So go and find these people whohas it.
Yeah, ask for support, ask forquestions.
You know, be curious.
Curiosity is a magical tool.
It is Learn from other peopleto be curious.
(42:05):
Kids are curious all the time.
Kids are so curious, they'realways asking questions.
They don't even think that thisquestion is stupid or not.
They just go in very curiouslyasking all these questions
because this is what they do.
They're curious and they'represent in the moment.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (42:23):
So when you're learning and you're
curious, be present, listencarefully, yeah, and that's what
I'm inviting people to do yeah,the word that comes up for me
is courage.
With you, it takes a lot ofcourage to be the warrior of
taking responsibility for yourlife, for your perception and
(42:44):
how your experiences feel,rather than dump it on other
people and tell other people howto make you feel You're taking
that full responsibility andalso being self-aware that you
know humaning with other humansis very challenging.
Yet we can work in community.
Yet you also can like a lot ofpeople think that you have to be
(43:07):
open to everybody and it's likeno, not every.
Like oil and water don't mix.
It doesn't mean oil is bad, itdoesn't mean water is bad, it
just doesn't mix.
So understand what works withyour energy.
You know some people that cango at a slow pace be around slow
pace.
Other people that want to gofast be fast.
Also, expose yourself to otherthings because you want to be
(43:29):
able to stretch, you want to beable to see what other things
are hiding in you that want tobe developed.
Yet the word that really justshines out is courage, like even
just hearing you travel and theway that, like you know, just
knocking and asking, not beingafraid of the no's because
you're already still in the sameposition.
(43:49):
It's that I can have anopportunity of more.
Yet if I don't ask, then I'mjust going to stay exactly at
the same place.
The no didn't put me in anyother place.
But psychologically that's notalways easy to tap into and
recognize that, because we getall kinds of different feelings
or sensations that can come upwhere it's like okay, but we can
(44:11):
still get that, yes.
So courage really stands outfor me when I hear you speaking
and the energy that you have.
Will you let the listeners knowwhere they can find you and
where they can find this bookthat you've written, so that
they can be infected with yourenergy?
Aisha Makara (44:31):
Yes, you can find me on my website, aishatoday is
A-I-S-H-A dot today where peoplecan see my projects that I'm
working on, my art.
That is in the space.
The article um like about mymentorship program as well,
(44:53):
about my book, and also you canfind my book is amazon joyful
living guidebook by aisha makara.
Um, it's with my art in it aswell, so you can also look at my
art.
Uh, and the differentsuggestions I or guidance I call
like because it's a guidebook,just like examples of what it is
(45:15):
to live a joyful life.
I believe everyone can createthe idea of their own joyful
life and following it bythemselves and practice it by
themselves.
Also, I'm also inviting peopleto get a clear idea of what it
is to be a great human, a greatmother, a great father.
(45:38):
What it is is get clarity onthese different topics in your
life and just be it, practice itday by day.
Maybe make a list, you know,and just like what I have, what
I don't have, what I get to addwhat I get to you know, kind of
take off, because one life andas clear as you are, as clear as
(46:07):
you are, the better life youare.
We are just partners of habitsand our habits create our life.
Our words create our action.
Our action creates our habits.
So it's all together.
It's.
You know, every time you readoff one habit, you're editing a
new habit.
So also it's everything.
It's a perspective.
Also, know what will work forme probably will not work for
(46:28):
you.
So be aware of it.
Everyone is different, everyonehas a unique way of being,
everyone has a unique skill set.
So just use that that benefityour life.
So just use that that benefitsyour life and that helps you to
(46:49):
create that joyful, beautifullife that you want to live and
live your dreams always.
I always live my dreams.
I love to live my dreams.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (46:54):
I'm addicted to that, actually it
feels you, it feels you now fromour conversation.
Will you leave the listeners anintention that will empower
them?
Aisha Makara (47:08):
be patient with yourself.
Patience, it's a great tool.
The like we used to say, moscowwas not built in one day.
Everything takes time.
So be patient and give yourselfevery time hug and kisses when
you have done something verygood, and just give hug and
(47:31):
kisses.
This is what I do.
I used to say, like everyone,all my friends in my life, it's
all about hug and kisses.
I don't want to, I don't acceptanything else.
Even it's not easy conversationHug and kisses first and after
we can have a conversation.
I love it.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (47:47):
I love it.
Well, you know what this hasbeen a delight and, like I said,
I love being in the energy ofyou creating, sharing that space
with us right now, before youput yourself out into the world
again and share your delight andyour joy and your creativity.
I look forward to followingyour journey and I really hope
(48:10):
that we'll stay connected.
You are a ball of energy andit's really great to feel your
presence, so please remember tobe kind to yourself.
Aisha Makara (48:21):
Yeah, joyful living, namaste.
We all get to be kind toyourself.
Yeah, joyful living, namaste.
We all get to be kind toourselves.
That's my one of the also myinvitation to the people.
I'm kind with myself and Iwould love people be more kind
with themselves, because worldis so beautiful when we started
to learn about kindness and loveand caring like and safety and
(48:47):
security, that I'm safe, I'msecured, that universe loves me,
god is always with me and youknow my angels, my archangels.
I used to say like I have armyof supporters.
I don't see them and they'rehere with me exactly.
NatNat - LiftOneSelf (49:07):
Thank you, aisha, for being you thank you.
Aisha Makara (49:10):
Thank you for having me enjoy your living.
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