June 13, 2025 • 34 mins
In this soul-stirring episode, I’m joined by Viv—an intuitive tarot reader and astrologer from Lagos, Nigeria—for a live reading that unveils deep truths about transformation, spiritual alignment, and reclaiming your inner authority.
We begin with a grounding mindful moment before diving into a tarot spread that speaks directly to those navigating upheaval:
✨ The Star reminds us that embodiment precedes manifestation.
“You don’t have to go outside to change things,” Viv says. “Just embody it on the inside—and it will change outward.”
⚡️ The Tower brings what many fear: disruption, collapse, endings. But Viv reframes it as divine revelation—clearing out what’s no longer rooted in truth so we can rebuild from soul.
💞 The Ten of Cups follows, showing us that emotional fulfillment often comes after letting go.
🌱 The Six of Cups reversed and The Emperor call us home to our childlike magic and our adult sovereignty.
Viv also shares her powerful journey—from spiritual dream initiation to owning her intuitive gift in a culture where such work is taboo.
“I believe in what I’m doing. I trust what I’m doing.”
We explore spiritual curiosity, self-trust, energy cleansing, and redefining rest—not as a task, but as a way of being.
This episode is for anyone standing in the rubble of what once was, wondering what’s next. Your tower moment isn’t the end—it’s the doorway.
🎧 Listen in and share with someone who needs to hear that their breakdown might just be the start of their breakthrough.
🔗 Connect with Viv:
Podcast: Perspective with Viv
Email: madamesreadings@gmail.com
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Episode Transcript
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NatNat (00:00):
Welcome to the Lift One Self podcast.
I'm your host, nat Nat, andtoday I have somebody all the
way in Lagos, nigeria.
I was on her podcast and shedid a tarot reading after our
session and it was so bang onthat I asked her would you do it
?
Live again with me so that mylisteners can be exposed to your
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gift?
So again, vulnerability,because she's going to read and
I'm going to have to expose mypersonal life out in here.
Yet the reason why I'm doing itis because I so believe in her
gift and I want to share it withothers so that they can tap
into what she has to offer.
So, viv, would you be sogracious to introduce yourself
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to the listeners and a littlebit to myself, because you asked
me about me, yet I didn't getto ask you about too much about
you.
Viv (00:51):
Okay, thank you for having me on the show.
Hi everyone, my name is Viv.
I'm an intuitive Tarot readerand astrologer and I'm also a
podcaster.
I host my own podcast calledPerspective with Viv.
I host my own podcast calledPerspective with Viv, and my own
message, or my own work, isaround enabling or allowing
people to get to know their trueselves and their false selves,
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and to express it freely and toshare that love with other
people.
NatNat (01:18):
So, before we do the reading, viv, would you be
willing to do a mindful momentwith me so that we can ground
ourselves and open up?
Yes, I would Okay.
So for the listeners, as youalways hear, safety first.
Please don't close your eyes ifyou're needing your visuals.
Yet with the other promptsyou're able to follow through
and take that check-in foryourself.
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So, viv, I'll ask you to getcomfortable in your seating and,
if it's safe to do so, you'regoing to gently close your eyes
and you're going to beginbreathing in and out through
your nose, bringing yourawareness to watching your
breath go in and out, not tryingto control your breath, just
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being aware of its rhythm,allowing it to guide you into
the body.
There may be some sensations orfeelings coming up, and that's
okay.
Let them come up.
You're safe to feel.
You're safe to let go.
Surrender the need to control.
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Surrender the need to control,release the need to resist and
just be, be with your breath,drop deeper into your body,
being in the space of being Now.
There may be some thoughts orto-do lists or possibly some
memories that have popped up.
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Some thoughts or to-do lists orpossibly some memories that
have popped up.
It's okay.
Gently bring your awarenessback to your breath, creating
space between the awareness andthe thoughts and dropping deeper
into the body, being in thatspace of presence, of stillness.
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Now again, more thoughts mayhave popped up.
Gently, bring your awarenessback to your breath, beginning
again, creating even more spacebetween the awareness and the
thoughts and completelysurrendering into the body, into
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now, into being.
Keeping that awareness on yourbreath and opening up Now, being
in your senses, at your owntime and at your own pace.
You're going to gently openyour eyes while still staying
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with your breath.
The floor is yours.
Viv (03:50):
Wow, thank you so much for that.
That was really, reallygrounding.
So I'm going to start shufflingthe cards now and, just to be
clear, would you like a personalreading or a collective reading
that encompasses your energyand that of your listeners?
NatNat (04:08):
I'm I'm good with either , or if both.
Whatever you feel called to,okay whatever comes up,
definitely, okay.
Viv (04:16):
So cards have already started falling out.
Yeah, we had that last time.
Yes, we did actually.
So I make the intention thatthe highest truth, that all the
messages that you all need tohear today, is what will come
forth.
I call upon my ancestors, myguides, my entire big heart.
(04:38):
Okay, another one.
Very good cards.
Okay, we're starting with thestar.
The first card is the star thatblew out, clarified by the
hermit card.
Then we have the tower,clarified by the ten of cups
I'll describe the imagery forthe listeners and the overall
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energy being the six of cups inreverse, which is an interesting
card to have.
So let's pull an extra card tobe sure.
Okay, so the first card we haveis the star.
The star depicts the image of awoman that is in a pond.
She has two jugs, one that ispouring water onto the land and
one that is pouring water ontoherself.
There's a huge star above herwith other small stars around it
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.
Now, this star card is a card ofhope, renewal, restoration.
It speaks of wishes and desiresbeing achieved, opportunities
coming to you.
Opportunities come to you foryou to fulfill your purpose, to
fulfill a certain need.
I talk about restoration andrenewal, because it's kind of
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like a level up card.
It's a card in which you mastermanifestation.
You are aware of the power thatyou hold within and you are
aware that you create yourreality.
So you are in the water,submerged, and your hand is
pouring water onto the land.
You embody the energy of whatit is that you want to create in
your life and therefore youmanipulate it by, or you
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manipulate the energy byallowing yourself to express it
outwards, meaning that you don'thave to go outside to change
things, just embodies on theinside and it will change
outwards.
Which is why her hand isoutstretched, pouring water onto
the land.
She doesn't need to do morethan that, she just needs to
stay in that vibration.
So that's what it's about.
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So, speaking freely, when, Isee the star card.
It speaks of any wishes anddesires that you or your
listeners may have.
It's on its way to you and it'sbecause you finally mastered
your state of mind and youremotional environment.
Those two things are importantfor manifestation because a lot
of times people rely on hope orget hope from what they see with
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their physical eyes.
And it's not about that.
It's about what you see on theinside and it's about the belief
that you have that what you seeon the inside will be created
on the outside.
The the card that clarifies thestar is a good card.
It's the hermit card, which isfunny because the hermit talks
about introspection.
This card depicts the image ofan old man holding a snake, a
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lantern, and has a black dognext to it.
When we talk about hermit,we're talking about clarifying
the star.
It's speaking of how,internally or through
introspection, you'll be able tofeed the light within you.
Once again, there's no need forexternal influences to sort of
influence the way you feel aboutlife or the way you feel about
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the things I want to manifest.
The hermit is saying that goinwards, go internal, learn more
about yourself, seekself-mastery, because it is in
that self-mastery that you'll beable to create the reality that
you want for yourself.
The hermit has everything itneeds.
The dog represents intuition,the lantern represents your
inner light, which is what wouldkind of show you the path to
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where you're meant to go, andthe snake represents
self-mastery.
With these three tools, orthese three qualities, you'll be
able to actualize the life thatyou want for yourself and thus
attract people to you, notneeding to go outside to get
them to be something for you.
You being you already andradiating that energy is what
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will create that reality thatyou seek for yourself.
The next card we have is thetower card, which depicts the
image of a castle being slicedin half and people falling from
the tower.
The tower is a wonderful cardfor me, if I'm being honest,
because it speaks of drasticchanges and transformations in
your life that are unexpected,but they're good things.
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Why?
Because they're revealing thethings in your life that are
unexpected, but they are goodthings.
Why?
Because they are revealing thethings in your life that had a
shaky foundation and went rootedin truth and authenticity, but
because you have the star card,the light that you have within
is shining and that is causingeverything around you externally
to change and to shift.
That is where your power lies.
So don't be surprised if youstart to experience unexpected
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changes and unexpected shifts inyour life.
It's meant to happen to giverise to the life that you want
for yourself.
We had a full moon inSagittarius recently.
Full moons are all aboutcompletions, releases and
culminations.
It may be unexpected, but justso that anything that completes
itself in your life, it'scompleting and it's closing
because it's not rooted in truth.
That's what the tower showswhere things are not rooted in
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authenticity, where thingsaren't real enough for the true
you, for the real you.
So a shift has to occur for youto be aware of the things that
are not working in your life,for you to approach yourself in
connections that are not alignedwith who you truly are, so that
you can rebuild and can have astrong foundation for things
that are really aligned with whoyou truly are, so that you can
rebuild and can have a strongfoundation for things that are
really aligned with who youtruly are.
The card that qualifies thetower is the ten of cups.
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So the tower brings some formof dark energy, because
obviously unexpected shifts arenever really welcome, and
especially when they're drasticand they're like so um, they
kind of like have this strong,strong hold on people, or this
strong shock that it strikes topeople.
When that happens, allow it tohappen and allow yourself to
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gain the wisdom from that moment, because what is to come
afterwards is the ten of cups,which speaks of happy ever after
.
It speaks of emotional bliss,strong family bonds, building
connections that are strong overa lifetime.
Actually, it's about takingthose steps, simple steps,
towards building the life thatyou want for yourself, towards
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the happier bathroom that youwant, and it's showing up here,
it's saying that it's close by,it's right next to you.
You just have to have hope.
You have to know that you havethe power to create the life
that you want for yourself.
You have to know that thestrength that you have within
you is stronger than anythingoutside of you.
That's why using tools likeyour intuition, self-mastery,
letting your light guide youwhen I say your light, when we
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allow ourselves to shine, ourpassion shows us the way, so
where whatever lights you up isa signal for where you're meant
to go, and if you allow us yourlife to be changed or to shift
because of this new energy ofauthenticity that, according to
yourself, you find yourselfattaining happiness, a happy
ever after.
So know that this is what thisis.
At the end of this journey, this10 of cups, this, this, this
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huge emotional fulfillment, thisbliss that you're going to be
feeling, where it's likeeverything is so aligned, the
overall energy was a six of cupsin reverse.
Right now, you may not be yourhappiest because you're going
through a shift, but know thatwhat is to come through all
these things that are happeningbehind the scenes, is to allow
you to return to your childlikestates, is to allow you to
return to who you were beforelife started to try to tear your
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innocence away from you, whoyou were when, where that person
was so strong and powerful.
And you are returning to thatperson.
So allow life to unfold.
Don't attach yourself tooutcomes.
Also, things that are happening.
Allow yourself to release andsurrender.
You have a lot of cups here,which means flow.
Flow with life.
Don't try to be controlling orrestrictive.
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Let it unfold in the way it'smeant to, because you'll find
yourself where you're meant tobe.
The card that clarifies the sixof cups and the six of cups um
depicts the image of two kidsrunning towards their father,
and it's one of the happiestcards in the deck, but it's been
in reverse means that there'sbeen some form of underlying
unhappiness because of, possibly, a lack of hope, a lack of
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trust, a lack of um awareness ofthe magic of life, something
bigger than you've been used to,and that is why you're
experiencing that tower to openyour eyes and widen your
perspective and enable you toreturn to who you were before.
Life tried to wipe away that uminnocence.
So the card that clarifies thesix of cups is the emperor,
which depicts an emperor on histhrone with a ram at its feet.
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The emperor is a beautiful cardto have.
It speaks of um being strong inyourself, having a strong
foundation in self, being aleader, having a strong identity
, being someone that people lookup to, being someone, somebody
that influences other people.
It shows the healing ofmasculine ones as well, the
healing of other ones.
So you have a strong, healthy,masculine within you as well as
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a strong, healthy feminine,where you're going to be using
that masculine side to createthe life that you want to show
up in places where you may havedeemed before, because now
you'll be realizing that yourlight is powerful and you
shining it and expressing itwill enable you to attain the
life that you want, to attainyour desires.
So the emperor sharing up hereis saying that pretty soon
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you're going to be experiencinga lot of happiness, and it's
because your identity is goingto be strong.
You're going to be strongerwithin your identity.
You're going to be able toprovide and protect for yourself
.
You're going to have a strongfoundation in life.
Therefore, you're going to beable to build on top of that.
So, yes, the tower may havecrashed down, but the throne
still remains, and now you'regoing to take your place on the
throne and rule from this.
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So what is happening for you isa new cycle in which you'll be
on top of things.
Trust yourself, have hope, knowthat you attain your desires.
Whatever energies that youreceive to take steps towards
executing your dream, feel freeto do that.
You're the emperor.
So your identity is a powerfultool, is a powerful resource,
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and the energy that comes fromthat, the energy that comes from
the emperor, is sort of like acreation kind of energy, saying
that, with everything around youfalling apart, what stays true
is who you truly are.
So build on that, build withthat and see what you create
from that.
That's my reading.
NatNat (14:24):
As you can hear, listeners that many that know my
story or have been followingyou understand that I've just
recently finished writing mymanuscript, the Gift, Wrapped in
Sandpaper, and the UntamedPower, and it's with beta
readers right now and it speaksexactly what you know the tower
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explained.
You know, sometimes we getchallenges and we don't want
them because it's going torequire us to either reflect
within, to see some wounds thatcreate blockages or also grow us
.
We talk about wantingresilience, we're talking about
wanting change and growth.
Well, it takes disruption andagain, your reading is bang on
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about the validation, aboutstanding in my truth, trusting
myself.
I think that's the biggestthing that all of us
continuously have to go throughthat journey, because the world
always seduces us and thinkingwe don't know enough, we're not
good enough and we aren't therewhere really the journey is, to
go, within um and really feelthat trust within.
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I want to ask would you be ableto pull a card for the
collective, just to hear whatthe theme is with whoever is
listening right now that it cantouch?
Viv (15:41):
sure I can do that.
I'll pull one card, okay,because I was a bit confused
when I saw the card I pulled out.
But I'm going to read the twocards here and just to add, the
first reading that I just didwas a collective reading, so you
may be.
So it's with this reading I'mgoing to do now.
It's just to add on to it.
The first card that I pulledout was the four of pentacles in
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reverse, and that confused me abit.
So I said let me pull aclarifier card and we got the
tower again.
So yeah, that's crazy.
So we had the four of pentacles.
I was confused about the fourof pentacles because I was like
we're still talking aboutfoundation when I picked the
emperor.
The emperor is a four card.
Four is the number forfoundation, so the four
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pentacles is in reverse.
Speaking of how it's like now,people are being forced to
release what it is that theywere holding on to before, the
things that made them feelgrounded, rooted, secure, stable
.
It's changing and I feel asthough they may have had a very
strong hand on it and wereforced to let go and release
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because that thing was actuallydead and it was time to allow
new life to come through intheir life.
So the fourth pentacle is, forme, in reverse is saying that
people's foundations arechanging.
People's foundations are,they're being uprooted to begin
again, and that's what'shappening.
And don't be afraid to let goof those things, because holding
on is going to be more painfulthan letting go.
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That's why the card thatclarifies it is a tower.
Yes, your life is changing sodrastically.
Yes, it's looking likesomething that you've never seen
before, you've neverexperienced before, and these
connections, opportunities thatyou thought were authentic, were
strong.
They had a strong foundation.
They showed themselves to notbe that, but that's okay,
because, with all theserevelations, trust me when I say
that there's going to be thingsthat come to balance things out
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.
There's going to be things thatcome in to add harmony to your
life, to add value to your life.
We always think about the loss,but we don't know about to your
life, to add value to your life.
We always think about the lossbut we don't know about, but we
don't focus on the fact that theloss creates space for
something better to occupy, andthat is the greatest gain,
because what occupies it to be10 times better than what was
lost.
We just have to give it theopportunity to show itself.
So, once again, embrace thistower, embrace release, embrace
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the shift, embrace the changes.
Don't hold on to anything,allow yourself to be detached
and just let life unfold for you.
You will get the nod when it'stime for you to act, but
whatever is happening that iscausing some shifts in your life
, that's causing you to release,know that is to restore balance
and harmony in your life.
All of this is to be restorebalance and harmony and to bring
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about this energy of justice inwherever you've been treated
unfairly, wherever you've beenbetrayed.
You know all of these thingsare reshuffling in order to give
you what it is that you need interms of your karmic justice.
That's why I believe because wehave the justice here, so the
skills of justice are here yourluck may change in just the
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flick of a, the snap of a finger, because of these releases that
you are allowing.
Yes, that's my reading for you.
NatNat (18:49):
Thank you.
Thank you.
I think that shows exactly howthe world is right now, because
there's so much chaos andthere's so many conflicts and
everything else, yet people arestill holding on to old belief
systems, old systems where it'slike, okay, well, what can we
release now and move intosomething new?
So very powerful reading very,very powerful intuition and
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intuitive.
Thank you.
I want to ask, Viv, whatbrought you on this path?
How did you learn?
Did you always know you hadthis intuitive gift or did you
come into it?
Okay?
Viv (19:25):
Very good question.
When I was younger, I washighly intuitive, which is why
when I pulled the six of cupsanytime I pulled the six of cups
because it's a card ofnostalgia nostalgia I always
think back to how I felt extramagical as a child.
So I was highly intuitive as achild and I lost it because
obviously you know how when yougrow up, depending on the
environment, you feel like yousecond guess yourself.
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You're going to know you're.
You grow up to not trustyourself and your instincts.
So that was lost.
Um Along the path, I became anartist.
I was doing photography and itwas during my photography series
, or during my process, that myintuition spoke to me.
So that's where I started tolisten and cultivate that
relationship.
It was only during myphotography process that I
listened to my intuition and itwas very, very, what's the right
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word?
I'd like to say mystical, eventhough I could have found
another word, but it was verymystical and highly out there.
That made me feel like, huh,there's something magical about
this, you know, let me keepdoing it.
And after a while I got to apoint in which I shifted from
photography to tarot reading andit came to me in a dream and at
that time I just started doingdream work.
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I was having a spiritual, I washaving my spiritual awakening
and I was learning a lot.
And I started doing dream workand I had this very vivid dream
in which there's a package thatcame to my door and I opened the
package and it was a tarot, apack of tarot cards, and a voice
said use it or get it.
And immediately when I woke upI got tarot cards.
And when I went back to Londonbecause at that time I was in
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Nigeria when I went back toLondon and I got my tarot cards,
I remember the first day I justfelt like I was being initiated
because for the first threedays I was sleeping absurdly
early with my cards and I'd havethese dreams in which I see
symbols and cards and all thesethings.
And I just, you know, when Iresearched it was like they said
that they're being initiatedand I really liked that.
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I liked that concept.
I was like for real, like Ijust got my card, like I've not
done anything and yet like Ijust started to sleep weirdly,
but I'm sleeping with my cards.
And at one point my sister waslike you sleep so early these
days.
What's going on?
It's like I have no idea.
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Initiation, which was like threedays I started to shuffle cards
and pull cards and there were acouple of tarot readers I was
following at the time, I thinktwo.
I was pulling the same cardsthey would pull for the day and
I was like, oh, am I in tune?
And I just like to learn andcontinue to learn.
And at one point I was likethat this is so natural to me.
I must have done this in a pastlife and I've been doing tarot
reading I would like to say I'mnot even sure nine years now.
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It's like a part of me.
I just love, like when I lookat my cards there's just this
affection.
I love the signs, I love thesymbology, I love how it really,
really trims your intuition,because I use tarot reading for
self-development, more thanfortune telling.
I use for self-development.
I use it to motivate and toencourage people.
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People always say, oh, yourreadings are so positive.
I generally that's how I seelife.
I would say something negativewill happen in your cards, but
I'll turn it around to positivebecause I always believe in
transmutation and alchemy.
So I read the way I see lifeand I can't ever read for
someone and say this is anegative thing, that's going to
happen.
I always, always show them howthey can turn it into something
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positive, because that's howlife is.
So, yeah, I got on this path tothat in that way and I must say
, like being Nigerian obviouslyis very taboo to be doing this
that's my next question, yeahright, it's taboo, it's um, it's
, but this is an art form thatthey don't get.
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And if we're talking about likeum, traditional, the culture on
a traditional level, because I'mI'm yoruba, so yoruba people
have this like um, they have ifas a religion, as a traditional
religion, I mean if they usecard, they read carries the same
way people would read.
It was another culture.
They use um beads, so they havethese priests that we read
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beads.
So I'm like I'm reading cards.
There's no difference.
I mean, okay, there's adifference because it has its
own like um system, the um carrysystem, but it's really cool.
But there's no differencebecause we're reading something
and we're reading things torelay messages to our clients in
order for them to better theirlife and to give them advice.
I'm not different, I'm justusing a different tool.
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So for me, even though peoplesee it as taboo and witchy,
honestly I'm not going to lie toyou it excites me even more
because I just feel like I'mpart of this exclusive group.
Like tarot is worth doing andit's worth having all those
experiences that I had when Ifirst started in Lagos, where
people call me a witch.
People would say that oh, youknow, you're lying.
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It's an act.
I just didn't care.
I was like you guys don't knowwhat's going on and that's fine.
I'm here, I'm enjoying myselfhere.
Meet me here if you'reinterested, and the ones that
met me there really enjoyedthemselves.
You know what I'm saying.
So there was good and bad, andso I've been able to deal with
it because I believe in what I'mdoing, I trust what I'm doing.
It helps me evolve my intuition.
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It's helped me gain credibilitywith people.
I'm very spot on when I readand I must tell you, it
literally just comes from me andI know that is a gift.
NatNat (24:37):
Yeah, I was just gonna ask because you explained it
very well too, like I explainreligion, where everybody's
focused on.
You know, we're all at thetable and we're eating food, but
everybody's focused on.
Well, you're eating with aknife and fork, you're eating
with spoon.
You're eating with your hands.
You're eating with chopsticksand and fork.
You're eating with spoon,you're eating with your hands.
You're eating with chopsticks.
And they want to criticizerather than we're eating food.
And what is the frequency ofthat food and how are we
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enjoying it?
So, like you said, themythology of that frequency and
using this method to communicatethe message that is needed,
unless it looks a certain way,people are so close-minded that
anything outside of that is evil, it's bad.
So it just really shows howbelief systems can keep our
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minds so closed off to not beinnovative, to not really
understand diversity.
Everybody cries for diversity,yet not many people practice
what diversity really means andthat it's going to hit some of
your belief systems.
Viv (25:35):
Definitely.
And you know, in life I justbelieve more than ever that you
have to be spiritually curious,you have to allow yourself to
want to expand.
Because I grew up Muslim and Iwas.
I was very much a good Muslimgirl, five times daily, although
I did drink and party, but itwas a good balance, because I
totally believe that, look, myheart is clean, I'm praying, I'm
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doing this stuff.
I'm also a young girl, you know, I've always had this thing
about just with religion.
I always had this thing ofwanting to express myself freely
while still respecting theinstitution.
So, as a Muslim, I did that.
Pardon me, as a Muslim, I didthat as a Muslim, I did that as
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a Muslim.
I did that, and you know.
But we're still like talkingabout sex, we're still like
doing partying yes, you knowthat kind of thing.
And from that journey I had myspiritual awakening.
And if I was so you know,restricted in my thinking, I
would have been like no, I don'twant to engage in this.
Like I know Islam, I'm going tostay in Islam.
But I allowed myself to like, Icalled it God opening a door
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for me, saying you've done wellhere, let me show you what's
there.
And I was like, okay, I'minterested, and I walked through
that door and this is where Iended up and I have no regrets.
But to other people it's like,oh, I've regressed.
You know, something happened,something stopped me from being
this person.
The devil came in.
NatNat (26:59):
Don't believe in that yeah, I love how you have really
.
You're really seated in theconfidence of your wholeness and
your worth and your trust andyou a lot of people think that
that comes easily and, as yousaid, I had to go through the
naysayers and the ones callingme names to really let that
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armament of not trusting myselffall off and really just be
seated in that sense of self andtrusting within, even if people
don't understand.
I don't need that outsidevalidation.
All the validation needs to bewithin myself and those that
will understand will, you know,rally around me and always
remind me that it's withinmyself and to trust myself.
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So, really redefining, like yousaid, you know we're shaped in
seeing the world in a certainway, yet if we allow curiosity
to be untethered, we're able toexplore in such a different
dynamic and such profound indepths.
Viv (27:57):
Yeah definitely.
NatNat (28:00):
How do you take care of you?
What is your self-care looklike and how do you?
Because holding space of beingintuitive and listening to all
the messages and holding spacefor people, that has its own
energy overload.
So how do you take care of youand offload that energy and make
sure that your vessel isfine-tuned and taken care of?
Viv (28:25):
I rest.
I allow myself to rest in alldifferent forms, because even
for me, like doing my podcast isa form of rest, anything that
involves me expressing myselfcreatively or just resting.
That's how I take care of metoday, um, and I listen to
myself.
Like by for a while my body hasbeen like I need to journal, so
I made time today to journal,and it's also told me I want to
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paint and I haven't painted inmonths, and that's my way of
expressing, but also being free,because I'm not like the best
painter, you know, and so Ilisten, I listen, but, most
importantly, I rest and I do alot of like energy cleansing.
I must tell you, when you askthe question, I was like what do
I really do?
It's so natural now that Idon't really look at it as, oh,
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this is self-care, I just ensurethat I'm okay, but most
especially, I'm resting.
I never feel like I'm carryingburdens anymore because I've
passed that.
My energetic boundaries arevery good.
But I do a lot of cleansing, Ido a lot of resting, yeah.
NatNat (29:21):
Okay, thank you for sharing that.
And when people are on the path, they understand that it
becomes your way of being, thatit's not like this check mark of
I got to do this, this, this,this, to be good.
It's just, you know, to listento your body and listen to what
it needs.
So, like you just said, thecreativity needs to be filled,
the body needs this or the bodyneeds that.
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So being able to listen to thatintuitively.
A lot of people still go onthis regimen of a checklist
where it's like, well, what isyour body saying, what does it
actually need, and what doesrust look like?
Viv (30:00):
because a lot of people think rust is only one way,
where it's many different waysthat you can redefine what rust
is.
Definitely, I definitely agreewith that, because I do
podcasting a lot, but honestly,it's just some form of rest for
me as well.
NatNat (30:08):
Yeah, yeah so I know many listeners are like okay, so
how can I get in contact withViv and where do I find her
details?
Can you let the listeners knowwhere they can find you and what
your offerings are?
Viv (30:31):
or we could have like a one-to-one video session in
which we have like 30 minutesreading, maybe 15 minutes or an
hour, depending on you.
I have a price list.
You can reach out to me on myInstagram, perspective Viv.
That's the place whereeverything is for me to and I'm
most accessible there.
I do have an emailmadamsreadings at gmailcom,
madame with an E at the end, soyou could also email me there.
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Emailcom, madam, with an e atthe end, so you could also email
me there.
I'm on tiktok perspective withyoutube, perspective with viv.
Yes, so you can reach me any ofthose outlets and I'll answer.
I'm gonna have a conversationwhere I offer tarot readings,
astrology readings, when I'm inthat space for mostly tarot
readings, yes, okay, so allthose links and all her
information will be in the shownotes so she'll be easily
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clickable.
NatNat (31:15):
Myself, I have a question because I'm in canada
do you do paypal, paypal, mybest friend okay, yeah, so it's
all easy for everyone okay,great, great.
So I'll make sure everything isin the show notes and that
people are easily able to accessyou and access your gift.
And, as you heard in thisreading, it was bang on.
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I can attest to it.
I've had two with her alreadyand, yeah, it's been spot on and
the intuition and even thelanguage is very similar that we
speak.
So if there was any time thatyou know something spoke to you
or you had tingles, reach out toViv.
She has a message.
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Yes, she has a message for you.
So make sure to reach out toher and you know, as she said,
you know, send a question, senda message, create a connection
and you might be very pleasantlysurprised what door might be
opening for you.
And, like we just said in thiscollective reading, the tower
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may be splitting.
So now you're supposed toventure into other places.
So, viv, I want to thank youfor sharing yourself, sharing
your gift and just lighting upthe world like you do, even when
some parts might feel lonelybecause people aren't around,
that you are still honoring thegift and sharing that light and
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that intuition with everybodyout in the world that's willing
to share and connect with you.
So thank you for being you, viv.
Viv (32:47):
Thank you.
Thank you so much for your kindwords and thank you for having
me.
It's been an absolute pleasure.
NatNat (32:55):
And oh yes, and please remember, remember listeners,
she has her podcast.
What's the title of it again?
Perspective with so make sureyou tune into her podcast.
I'll be highlighting it when myepisode comes out so that you
can listen.
She asked some very profoundquestions and she really brings
in some great guests that wouldbring different modalities and
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really do that inner work andsee that there's different
avenues out there in the world.
So again, thank you, and pleaseremember to be kind to yourself
.
I appreciate you and your time.
If you found value in thisconversation, please share it
out.
If there was somebody thatpopped into your mind, take
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action and share it out withthem.
It possibly may not be themthat will benefit.
It's that they know somebodythat will benefit from listening
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work that I do and the servicesthat I provide to people, come
over on my website, come into adiscovery call liftoneselfcom.
Until next time, pleaseremember to be kind and gentle
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with yourself.
Welcome to the Lift One Self podcast.
I'm your host, nat Nat, andtoday I have somebody all the
way in Lagos, nigeria.
I was on her podcast and shedid a tarot reading after our
session and it was so bang onthat I asked her would you do it
?
Live again with me so that mylisteners can be exposed to your
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gift?
So again, vulnerability,because she's going to read and
I'm going to have to expose mypersonal life out in here.
Yet the reason why I'm doing itis because I so believe in her
gift and I want to share it withothers so that they can tap
into what she has to offer.
So, viv, would you be sogracious to introduce yourself
(00:44):
to the listeners and a littlebit to myself, because you asked
me about me, yet I didn't getto ask you about too much about
you.
Viv (00:51):
Okay, thank you for having me on the show.
Hi everyone, my name is Viv.
I'm an intuitive Tarot readerand astrologer and I'm also a
podcaster.
I host my own podcast calledPerspective with Viv.
I host my own podcast calledPerspective with Viv, and my own
message, or my own work, isaround enabling or allowing
people to get to know their trueselves and their false selves,
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and to express it freely and toshare that love with other
people.
NatNat (01:18):
So, before we do the reading, viv, would you be
willing to do a mindful momentwith me so that we can ground
ourselves and open up?
Yes, I would Okay.
So for the listeners, as youalways hear, safety first.
Please don't close your eyes ifyou're needing your visuals.
Yet with the other promptsyou're able to follow through
and take that check-in foryourself.
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So, viv, I'll ask you to getcomfortable in your seating and,
if it's safe to do so, you'regoing to gently close your eyes
and you're going to beginbreathing in and out through
your nose, bringing yourawareness to watching your
breath go in and out, not tryingto control your breath, just
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being aware of its rhythm,allowing it to guide you into
the body.
There may be some sensations orfeelings coming up, and that's
okay.
Let them come up.
You're safe to feel.
You're safe to let go.
Surrender the need to control.
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Surrender the need to control,release the need to resist and
just be, be with your breath,drop deeper into your body,
being in the space of being Now.
There may be some thoughts orto-do lists or possibly some
memories that have popped up.
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Some thoughts or to-do lists orpossibly some memories that
have popped up.
It's okay.
Gently bring your awarenessback to your breath, creating
space between the awareness andthe thoughts and dropping deeper
into the body, being in thatspace of presence, of stillness.
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Now again, more thoughts mayhave popped up.
Gently, bring your awarenessback to your breath, beginning
again, creating even more spacebetween the awareness and the
thoughts and completelysurrendering into the body, into
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now, into being.
Keeping that awareness on yourbreath and opening up Now, being
in your senses, at your owntime and at your own pace.
You're going to gently openyour eyes while still staying
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with your breath.
The floor is yours.
Viv (03:50):
Wow, thank you so much for that.
That was really, reallygrounding.
So I'm going to start shufflingthe cards now and, just to be
clear, would you like a personalreading or a collective reading
that encompasses your energyand that of your listeners?
NatNat (04:08):
I'm I'm good with either , or if both.
Whatever you feel called to,okay whatever comes up,
definitely, okay.
Viv (04:16):
So cards have already started falling out.
Yeah, we had that last time.
Yes, we did actually.
So I make the intention thatthe highest truth, that all the
messages that you all need tohear today, is what will come
forth.
I call upon my ancestors, myguides, my entire big heart.
(04:38):
Okay, another one.
Very good cards.
Okay, we're starting with thestar.
The first card is the star thatblew out, clarified by the
hermit card.
Then we have the tower,clarified by the ten of cups
I'll describe the imagery forthe listeners and the overall
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energy being the six of cups inreverse, which is an interesting
card to have.
So let's pull an extra card tobe sure.
Okay, so the first card we haveis the star.
The star depicts the image of awoman that is in a pond.
She has two jugs, one that ispouring water onto the land and
one that is pouring water ontoherself.
There's a huge star above herwith other small stars around it
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.
Now, this star card is a card ofhope, renewal, restoration.
It speaks of wishes and desiresbeing achieved, opportunities
coming to you.
Opportunities come to you foryou to fulfill your purpose, to
fulfill a certain need.
I talk about restoration andrenewal, because it's kind of
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like a level up card.
It's a card in which you mastermanifestation.
You are aware of the power thatyou hold within and you are
aware that you create yourreality.
So you are in the water,submerged, and your hand is
pouring water onto the land.
You embody the energy of whatit is that you want to create in
your life and therefore youmanipulate it by, or you
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manipulate the energy byallowing yourself to express it
outwards, meaning that you don'thave to go outside to change
things, just embodies on theinside and it will change
outwards.
Which is why her hand isoutstretched, pouring water onto
the land.
She doesn't need to do morethan that, she just needs to
stay in that vibration.
So that's what it's about.
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So, speaking freely, when, Isee the star card.
It speaks of any wishes anddesires that you or your
listeners may have.
It's on its way to you and it'sbecause you finally mastered
your state of mind and youremotional environment.
Those two things are importantfor manifestation because a lot
of times people rely on hope orget hope from what they see with
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their physical eyes.
And it's not about that.
It's about what you see on theinside and it's about the belief
that you have that what you seeon the inside will be created
on the outside.
The the card that clarifies thestar is a good card.
It's the hermit card, which isfunny because the hermit talks
about introspection.
This card depicts the image ofan old man holding a snake, a
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lantern, and has a black dognext to it.
When we talk about hermit,we're talking about clarifying
the star.
It's speaking of how,internally or through
introspection, you'll be able tofeed the light within you.
Once again, there's no need forexternal influences to sort of
influence the way you feel aboutlife or the way you feel about
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the things I want to manifest.
The hermit is saying that goinwards, go internal, learn more
about yourself, seekself-mastery, because it is in
that self-mastery that you'll beable to create the reality that
you want for yourself.
The hermit has everything itneeds.
The dog represents intuition,the lantern represents your
inner light, which is what wouldkind of show you the path to
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where you're meant to go, andthe snake represents
self-mastery.
With these three tools, orthese three qualities, you'll be
able to actualize the life thatyou want for yourself and thus
attract people to you, notneeding to go outside to get
them to be something for you.
You being you already andradiating that energy is what
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will create that reality thatyou seek for yourself.
The next card we have is thetower card, which depicts the
image of a castle being slicedin half and people falling from
the tower.
The tower is a wonderful cardfor me, if I'm being honest,
because it speaks of drasticchanges and transformations in
your life that are unexpected,but they're good things.
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Why?
Because they're revealing thethings in your life that are
unexpected, but they are goodthings.
Why?
Because they are revealing thethings in your life that had a
shaky foundation and went rootedin truth and authenticity, but
because you have the star card,the light that you have within
is shining and that is causingeverything around you externally
to change and to shift.
That is where your power lies.
So don't be surprised if youstart to experience unexpected
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changes and unexpected shifts inyour life.
It's meant to happen to giverise to the life that you want
for yourself.
We had a full moon inSagittarius recently.
Full moons are all aboutcompletions, releases and
culminations.
It may be unexpected, but justso that anything that completes
itself in your life, it'scompleting and it's closing
because it's not rooted in truth.
That's what the tower showswhere things are not rooted in
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authenticity, where thingsaren't real enough for the true
you, for the real you.
So a shift has to occur for youto be aware of the things that
are not working in your life,for you to approach yourself in
connections that are not alignedwith who you truly are, so that
you can rebuild and can have astrong foundation for things
that are really aligned with whoyou truly are, so that you can
rebuild and can have a strongfoundation for things that are
really aligned with who youtruly are.
The card that qualifies thetower is the ten of cups.
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So the tower brings some formof dark energy, because
obviously unexpected shifts arenever really welcome, and
especially when they're drasticand they're like so um, they
kind of like have this strong,strong hold on people, or this
strong shock that it strikes topeople.
When that happens, allow it tohappen and allow yourself to
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gain the wisdom from that moment, because what is to come
afterwards is the ten of cups,which speaks of happy ever after
.
It speaks of emotional bliss,strong family bonds, building
connections that are strong overa lifetime.
Actually, it's about takingthose steps, simple steps,
towards building the life thatyou want for yourself, towards
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the happier bathroom that youwant, and it's showing up here,
it's saying that it's close by,it's right next to you.
You just have to have hope.
You have to know that you havethe power to create the life
that you want for yourself.
You have to know that thestrength that you have within
you is stronger than anythingoutside of you.
That's why using tools likeyour intuition, self-mastery,
letting your light guide youwhen I say your light, when we
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allow ourselves to shine, ourpassion shows us the way, so
where whatever lights you up isa signal for where you're meant
to go, and if you allow us yourlife to be changed or to shift
because of this new energy ofauthenticity that, according to
yourself, you find yourselfattaining happiness, a happy
ever after.
So know that this is what thisis.
At the end of this journey, this10 of cups, this, this, this
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huge emotional fulfillment, thisbliss that you're going to be
feeling, where it's likeeverything is so aligned, the
overall energy was a six of cupsin reverse.
Right now, you may not be yourhappiest because you're going
through a shift, but know thatwhat is to come through all
these things that are happeningbehind the scenes, is to allow
you to return to your childlikestates, is to allow you to
return to who you were beforelife started to try to tear your
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innocence away from you, whoyou were when, where that person
was so strong and powerful.
And you are returning to thatperson.
So allow life to unfold.
Don't attach yourself tooutcomes.
Also, things that are happening.
Allow yourself to release andsurrender.
You have a lot of cups here,which means flow.
Flow with life.
Don't try to be controlling orrestrictive.
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Let it unfold in the way it'smeant to, because you'll find
yourself where you're meant tobe.
The card that clarifies the sixof cups and the six of cups um
depicts the image of two kidsrunning towards their father,
and it's one of the happiestcards in the deck, but it's been
in reverse means that there'sbeen some form of underlying
unhappiness because of, possibly, a lack of hope, a lack of
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trust, a lack of um awareness ofthe magic of life, something
bigger than you've been used to,and that is why you're
experiencing that tower to openyour eyes and widen your
perspective and enable you toreturn to who you were before.
Life tried to wipe away that uminnocence.
So the card that clarifies thesix of cups is the emperor,
which depicts an emperor on histhrone with a ram at its feet.
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The emperor is a beautiful cardto have.
It speaks of um being strong inyourself, having a strong
foundation in self, being aleader, having a strong identity
, being someone that people lookup to, being someone, somebody
that influences other people.
It shows the healing ofmasculine ones as well, the
healing of other ones.
So you have a strong, healthy,masculine within you as well as
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a strong, healthy feminine,where you're going to be using
that masculine side to createthe life that you want to show
up in places where you may havedeemed before, because now
you'll be realizing that yourlight is powerful and you
shining it and expressing itwill enable you to attain the
life that you want, to attainyour desires.
So the emperor sharing up hereis saying that pretty soon
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you're going to be experiencinga lot of happiness, and it's
because your identity is goingto be strong.
You're going to be strongerwithin your identity.
You're going to be able toprovide and protect for yourself
.
You're going to have a strongfoundation in life.
Therefore, you're going to beable to build on top of that.
So, yes, the tower may havecrashed down, but the throne
still remains, and now you'regoing to take your place on the
throne and rule from this.
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So what is happening for you isa new cycle in which you'll be
on top of things.
Trust yourself, have hope, knowthat you attain your desires.
Whatever energies that youreceive to take steps towards
executing your dream, feel freeto do that.
You're the emperor.
So your identity is a powerfultool, is a powerful resource,
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and the energy that comes fromthat, the energy that comes from
the emperor, is sort of like acreation kind of energy, saying
that, with everything around youfalling apart, what stays true
is who you truly are.
So build on that, build withthat and see what you create
from that.
That's my reading.
NatNat (14:24):
As you can hear, listeners that many that know my
story or have been followingyou understand that I've just
recently finished writing mymanuscript, the Gift, Wrapped in
Sandpaper, and the UntamedPower, and it's with beta
readers right now and it speaksexactly what you know the tower
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explained.
You know, sometimes we getchallenges and we don't want
them because it's going torequire us to either reflect
within, to see some wounds thatcreate blockages or also grow us
.
We talk about wantingresilience, we're talking about
wanting change and growth.
Well, it takes disruption andagain, your reading is bang on
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about the validation, aboutstanding in my truth, trusting
myself.
I think that's the biggestthing that all of us
continuously have to go throughthat journey, because the world
always seduces us and thinkingwe don't know enough, we're not
good enough and we aren't therewhere really the journey is, to
go, within um and really feelthat trust within.
(15:29):
I want to ask would you be ableto pull a card for the
collective, just to hear whatthe theme is with whoever is
listening right now that it cantouch?
Viv (15:41):
sure I can do that.
I'll pull one card, okay,because I was a bit confused
when I saw the card I pulled out.
But I'm going to read the twocards here and just to add, the
first reading that I just didwas a collective reading, so you
may be.
So it's with this reading I'mgoing to do now.
It's just to add on to it.
The first card that I pulledout was the four of pentacles in
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reverse, and that confused me abit.
So I said let me pull aclarifier card and we got the
tower again.
So yeah, that's crazy.
So we had the four of pentacles.
I was confused about the fourof pentacles because I was like
we're still talking aboutfoundation when I picked the
emperor.
The emperor is a four card.
Four is the number forfoundation, so the four
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pentacles is in reverse.
Speaking of how it's like now,people are being forced to
release what it is that theywere holding on to before, the
things that made them feelgrounded, rooted, secure, stable
.
It's changing and I feel asthough they may have had a very
strong hand on it and wereforced to let go and release
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because that thing was actuallydead and it was time to allow
new life to come through intheir life.
So the fourth pentacle is, forme, in reverse is saying that
people's foundations arechanging.
People's foundations are,they're being uprooted to begin
again, and that's what'shappening.
And don't be afraid to let goof those things, because holding
on is going to be more painfulthan letting go.
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That's why the card thatclarifies it is a tower.
Yes, your life is changing sodrastically.
Yes, it's looking likesomething that you've never seen
before, you've neverexperienced before, and these
connections, opportunities thatyou thought were authentic, were
strong.
They had a strong foundation.
They showed themselves to notbe that, but that's okay,
because, with all theserevelations, trust me when I say
that there's going to be thingsthat come to balance things out
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.
There's going to be things thatcome in to add harmony to your
life, to add value to your life.
We always think about the loss,but we don't know about to your
life, to add value to your life.
We always think about the lossbut we don't know about, but we
don't focus on the fact that theloss creates space for
something better to occupy, andthat is the greatest gain,
because what occupies it to be10 times better than what was
lost.
We just have to give it theopportunity to show itself.
So, once again, embrace thistower, embrace release, embrace
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the shift, embrace the changes.
Don't hold on to anything,allow yourself to be detached
and just let life unfold for you.
You will get the nod when it'stime for you to act, but
whatever is happening that iscausing some shifts in your life
, that's causing you to release,know that is to restore balance
and harmony in your life.
All of this is to be restorebalance and harmony and to bring
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about this energy of justice inwherever you've been treated
unfairly, wherever you've beenbetrayed.
You know all of these thingsare reshuffling in order to give
you what it is that you need interms of your karmic justice.
That's why I believe because wehave the justice here, so the
skills of justice are here yourluck may change in just the
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flick of a, the snap of a finger, because of these releases that
you are allowing.
Yes, that's my reading for you.
NatNat (18:49):
Thank you.
Thank you.
I think that shows exactly howthe world is right now, because
there's so much chaos andthere's so many conflicts and
everything else, yet people arestill holding on to old belief
systems, old systems where it'slike, okay, well, what can we
release now and move intosomething new?
So very powerful reading very,very powerful intuition and
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intuitive.
Thank you.
I want to ask, Viv, whatbrought you on this path?
How did you learn?
Did you always know you hadthis intuitive gift or did you
come into it?
Okay?
Viv (19:25):
Very good question.
When I was younger, I washighly intuitive, which is why
when I pulled the six of cupsanytime I pulled the six of cups
because it's a card ofnostalgia nostalgia I always
think back to how I felt extramagical as a child.
So I was highly intuitive as achild and I lost it because
obviously you know how when yougrow up, depending on the
environment, you feel like yousecond guess yourself.
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You're going to know you're.
You grow up to not trustyourself and your instincts.
So that was lost.
Um Along the path, I became anartist.
I was doing photography and itwas during my photography series
, or during my process, that myintuition spoke to me.
So that's where I started tolisten and cultivate that
relationship.
It was only during myphotography process that I
listened to my intuition and itwas very, very, what's the right
(20:09):
word?
I'd like to say mystical, eventhough I could have found
another word, but it was verymystical and highly out there.
That made me feel like, huh,there's something magical about
this, you know, let me keepdoing it.
And after a while I got to apoint in which I shifted from
photography to tarot reading andit came to me in a dream and at
that time I just started doingdream work.
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I was having a spiritual, I washaving my spiritual awakening
and I was learning a lot.
And I started doing dream workand I had this very vivid dream
in which there's a package thatcame to my door and I opened the
package and it was a tarot, apack of tarot cards, and a voice
said use it or get it.
And immediately when I woke upI got tarot cards.
And when I went back to Londonbecause at that time I was in
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Nigeria when I went back toLondon and I got my tarot cards,
I remember the first day I justfelt like I was being initiated
because for the first threedays I was sleeping absurdly
early with my cards and I'd havethese dreams in which I see
symbols and cards and all thesethings.
And I just, you know, when Iresearched it was like they said
that they're being initiatedand I really liked that.
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I liked that concept.
I was like for real, like Ijust got my card, like I've not
done anything and yet like Ijust started to sleep weirdly,
but I'm sleeping with my cards.
And at one point my sister waslike you sleep so early these
days.
What's going on?
It's like I have no idea.
(21:35):
Initiation, which was like threedays I started to shuffle cards
and pull cards and there were acouple of tarot readers I was
following at the time, I thinktwo.
I was pulling the same cardsthey would pull for the day and
I was like, oh, am I in tune?
And I just like to learn andcontinue to learn.
And at one point I was likethat this is so natural to me.
I must have done this in a pastlife and I've been doing tarot
reading I would like to say I'mnot even sure nine years now.
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It's like a part of me.
I just love, like when I lookat my cards there's just this
affection.
I love the signs, I love thesymbology, I love how it really,
really trims your intuition,because I use tarot reading for
self-development, more thanfortune telling.
I use for self-development.
I use it to motivate and toencourage people.
(22:17):
People always say, oh, yourreadings are so positive.
I generally that's how I seelife.
I would say something negativewill happen in your cards, but
I'll turn it around to positivebecause I always believe in
transmutation and alchemy.
So I read the way I see lifeand I can't ever read for
someone and say this is anegative thing, that's going to
happen.
I always, always show them howthey can turn it into something
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positive, because that's howlife is.
So, yeah, I got on this path tothat in that way and I must say
, like being Nigerian obviouslyis very taboo to be doing this
that's my next question, yeahright, it's taboo, it's um, it's
, but this is an art form thatthey don't get.
(22:59):
And if we're talking about likeum, traditional, the culture on
a traditional level, because I'mI'm yoruba, so yoruba people
have this like um, they have ifas a religion, as a traditional
religion, I mean if they usecard, they read carries the same
way people would read.
It was another culture.
They use um beads, so they havethese priests that we read
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beads.
So I'm like I'm reading cards.
There's no difference.
I mean, okay, there's adifference because it has its
own like um system, the um carrysystem, but it's really cool.
But there's no differencebecause we're reading something
and we're reading things torelay messages to our clients in
order for them to better theirlife and to give them advice.
I'm not different, I'm justusing a different tool.
(23:43):
So for me, even though peoplesee it as taboo and witchy,
honestly I'm not going to lie toyou it excites me even more
because I just feel like I'mpart of this exclusive group.
Like tarot is worth doing andit's worth having all those
experiences that I had when Ifirst started in Lagos, where
people call me a witch.
People would say that oh, youknow, you're lying.
(24:04):
It's an act.
I just didn't care.
I was like you guys don't knowwhat's going on and that's fine.
I'm here, I'm enjoying myselfhere.
Meet me here if you'reinterested, and the ones that
met me there really enjoyedthemselves.
You know what I'm saying.
So there was good and bad, andso I've been able to deal with
it because I believe in what I'mdoing, I trust what I'm doing.
It helps me evolve my intuition.
(24:26):
It's helped me gain credibilitywith people.
I'm very spot on when I readand I must tell you, it
literally just comes from me andI know that is a gift.
NatNat (24:37):
Yeah, I was just gonna ask because you explained it
very well too, like I explainreligion, where everybody's
focused on.
You know, we're all at thetable and we're eating food, but
everybody's focused on.
Well, you're eating with aknife and fork, you're eating
with spoon.
You're eating with your hands.
You're eating with chopsticksand and fork.
You're eating with spoon,you're eating with your hands.
You're eating with chopsticks.
And they want to criticizerather than we're eating food.
And what is the frequency ofthat food and how are we
(24:59):
enjoying it?
So, like you said, themythology of that frequency and
using this method to communicatethe message that is needed,
unless it looks a certain way,people are so close-minded that
anything outside of that is evil, it's bad.
So it just really shows howbelief systems can keep our
(25:20):
minds so closed off to not beinnovative, to not really
understand diversity.
Everybody cries for diversity,yet not many people practice
what diversity really means andthat it's going to hit some of
your belief systems.
Viv (25:35):
Definitely.
And you know, in life I justbelieve more than ever that you
have to be spiritually curious,you have to allow yourself to
want to expand.
Because I grew up Muslim and Iwas.
I was very much a good Muslimgirl, five times daily, although
I did drink and party, but itwas a good balance, because I
totally believe that, look, myheart is clean, I'm praying, I'm
(25:55):
doing this stuff.
I'm also a young girl, you know, I've always had this thing
about just with religion.
I always had this thing ofwanting to express myself freely
while still respecting theinstitution.
So, as a Muslim, I did that.
Pardon me, as a Muslim, I didthat as a Muslim, I did that as
(26:19):
a Muslim.
I did that, and you know.
But we're still like talkingabout sex, we're still like
doing partying yes, you knowthat kind of thing.
And from that journey I had myspiritual awakening.
And if I was so you know,restricted in my thinking, I
would have been like no, I don'twant to engage in this.
Like I know Islam, I'm going tostay in Islam.
But I allowed myself to like, Icalled it God opening a door
(26:41):
for me, saying you've done wellhere, let me show you what's
there.
And I was like, okay, I'minterested, and I walked through
that door and this is where Iended up and I have no regrets.
But to other people it's like,oh, I've regressed.
You know, something happened,something stopped me from being
this person.
The devil came in.
NatNat (26:59):
Don't believe in that yeah, I love how you have really
.
You're really seated in theconfidence of your wholeness and
your worth and your trust andyou a lot of people think that
that comes easily and, as yousaid, I had to go through the
naysayers and the ones callingme names to really let that
(27:20):
armament of not trusting myselffall off and really just be
seated in that sense of self andtrusting within, even if people
don't understand.
I don't need that outsidevalidation.
All the validation needs to bewithin myself and those that
will understand will, you know,rally around me and always
remind me that it's withinmyself and to trust myself.
(27:42):
So, really redefining, like yousaid, you know we're shaped in
seeing the world in a certainway, yet if we allow curiosity
to be untethered, we're able toexplore in such a different
dynamic and such profound indepths.
Viv (27:57):
Yeah definitely.
NatNat (28:00):
How do you take care of you?
What is your self-care looklike and how do you?
Because holding space of beingintuitive and listening to all
the messages and holding spacefor people, that has its own
energy overload.
So how do you take care of youand offload that energy and make
sure that your vessel isfine-tuned and taken care of?
Viv (28:25):
I rest.
I allow myself to rest in alldifferent forms, because even
for me, like doing my podcast isa form of rest, anything that
involves me expressing myselfcreatively or just resting.
That's how I take care of metoday, um, and I listen to
myself.
Like by for a while my body hasbeen like I need to journal, so
I made time today to journal,and it's also told me I want to
(28:46):
paint and I haven't painted inmonths, and that's my way of
expressing, but also being free,because I'm not like the best
painter, you know, and so Ilisten, I listen, but, most
importantly, I rest and I do alot of like energy cleansing.
I must tell you, when you askthe question, I was like what do
I really do?
It's so natural now that Idon't really look at it as, oh,
(29:06):
this is self-care, I just ensurethat I'm okay, but most
especially, I'm resting.
I never feel like I'm carryingburdens anymore because I've
passed that.
My energetic boundaries arevery good.
But I do a lot of cleansing, Ido a lot of resting, yeah.
NatNat (29:21):
Okay, thank you for sharing that.
And when people are on the path, they understand that it
becomes your way of being, thatit's not like this check mark of
I got to do this, this, this,this, to be good.
It's just, you know, to listento your body and listen to what
it needs.
So, like you just said, thecreativity needs to be filled,
the body needs this or the bodyneeds that.
(29:42):
So being able to listen to thatintuitively.
A lot of people still go onthis regimen of a checklist
where it's like, well, what isyour body saying, what does it
actually need, and what doesrust look like?
Viv (30:00):
because a lot of people think rust is only one way,
where it's many different waysthat you can redefine what rust
is.
Definitely, I definitely agreewith that, because I do
podcasting a lot, but honestly,it's just some form of rest for
me as well.
NatNat (30:08):
Yeah, yeah so I know many listeners are like okay, so
how can I get in contact withViv and where do I find her
details?
Can you let the listeners knowwhere they can find you and what
your offerings are?
Viv (30:31):
or we could have like a one-to-one video session in
which we have like 30 minutesreading, maybe 15 minutes or an
hour, depending on you.
I have a price list.
You can reach out to me on myInstagram, perspective Viv.
That's the place whereeverything is for me to and I'm
most accessible there.
I do have an emailmadamsreadings at gmailcom,
madame with an E at the end, soyou could also email me there.
(30:52):
Emailcom, madam, with an e atthe end, so you could also email
me there.
I'm on tiktok perspective withyoutube, perspective with viv.
Yes, so you can reach me any ofthose outlets and I'll answer.
I'm gonna have a conversationwhere I offer tarot readings,
astrology readings, when I'm inthat space for mostly tarot
readings, yes, okay, so allthose links and all her
information will be in the shownotes so she'll be easily
(31:14):
clickable.
NatNat (31:15):
Myself, I have a question because I'm in canada
do you do paypal, paypal, mybest friend okay, yeah, so it's
all easy for everyone okay,great, great.
So I'll make sure everything isin the show notes and that
people are easily able to accessyou and access your gift.
And, as you heard in thisreading, it was bang on.
(31:38):
I can attest to it.
I've had two with her alreadyand, yeah, it's been spot on and
the intuition and even thelanguage is very similar that we
speak.
So if there was any time thatyou know something spoke to you
or you had tingles, reach out toViv.
She has a message.
(31:58):
Yes, she has a message for you.
So make sure to reach out toher and you know, as she said,
you know, send a question, senda message, create a connection
and you might be very pleasantlysurprised what door might be
opening for you.
And, like we just said in thiscollective reading, the tower
(32:18):
may be splitting.
So now you're supposed toventure into other places.
So, viv, I want to thank youfor sharing yourself, sharing
your gift and just lighting upthe world like you do, even when
some parts might feel lonelybecause people aren't around,
that you are still honoring thegift and sharing that light and
(32:39):
that intuition with everybodyout in the world that's willing
to share and connect with you.
So thank you for being you, viv.
Viv (32:47):
Thank you.
Thank you so much for your kindwords and thank you for having
me.
It's been an absolute pleasure.
NatNat (32:55):
And oh yes, and please remember, remember listeners,
she has her podcast.
What's the title of it again?
Perspective with so make sureyou tune into her podcast.
I'll be highlighting it when myepisode comes out so that you
can listen.
She asked some very profoundquestions and she really brings
in some great guests that wouldbring different modalities and
(33:16):
really do that inner work andsee that there's different
avenues out there in the world.
So again, thank you, and pleaseremember to be kind to yourself
.
I appreciate you and your time.
If you found value in thisconversation, please share it
out.
If there was somebody thatpopped into your mind, take
(33:38):
action and share it out withthem.
It possibly may not be themthat will benefit.
It's that they know somebodythat will benefit from listening
to this conversation.
So please take action and shareout the podcast.
So please take action and shareout the podcast.
You can find us on social mediaon Facebook, instagram and
TikTok under Lift One Self, andif you want to inquire about the
(34:02):
work that I do and the servicesthat I provide to people, come
over on my website, come into adiscovery call liftoneselfcom.
Until next time, pleaseremember to be kind and gentle
(34:22):
with yourself.
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