January 5, 2025 • 49 mins
Lachlan Stuart sits down with Jacob Watson, founder of WattFit Caloundra and Trainer HQ’s Entrepreneur of the Year, to discuss how discipline, vision, and resilience transformed Jacob’s life. From failing his first triathlon to running a thriving business, Jacob shares the lessons he learned about overcoming challenges, embracing failure, and building a life aligned with his values. Discover how to turn setbacks into stepping stones and the importance of creating systems for success. Whether you’re an aspiring entrepreneur, a fitness enthusiast, or someone seeking inspiration, this episode is packed with actionable insights.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back to the man that Can.
With Lockie Stewart, We've gota returning guest back from
episode 312.
Watto, can you believe our lastepisode was on June 7th 2021?
.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I can't.
I knew it was some time ago.
But yeah, when you say it likethat and timelines and things
for me, like when you're tryingto reflect back things happening
at different times, it's alwayshard to gauge.
So that's cool to hear.
I'm excited to be back.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Mate.
It's wild when I was lookingback through, because I listened
to it again this morning and Iwas like I can't believe it's
already been over three years.
That's scary how quickly timegoes, mate.
I wanted to get you back onhere, one to catch up, but two
to share with people, or allowyou to share with people where
you're at.
You're one of these people thatI watch in my life.
(00:53):
You do so much more than yousay, which I think is probably
the most important thing ingetting great results in life.
You're thriving in footy,you're thriving in business and
you're thriving in your personallife.
And you, you're thriving infooty, you're thriving in
business and you're thriving inyour personal life.
You're someone that inspires me.
So I wanted to get you on hereto give people a bit of an
update on where you're at sinceour last chat, but also I want
(01:14):
to pull it apart and, I guess,find out why you think the way
you do.
I remember one of the quotesthat stood out in our last
episode was the universe can getthe fuck out of your way, and
you appear to be living by thatstill.
So firstly, dude, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Mate, I'm great and I'm glad you mentioned all that.
I really appreciate those kindwords and you're an inspiration
of mine as well, man, and Iappreciate having you as my
mentor and everything you do.
But, yeah, that mindset I don'tknow exactly where it comes
from, but it's something thatit's still there.
It still gets me going.
It's what you know gets me outof bed in the morning to keep
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pressing on and off.
The back of the weekend I had areally cool conference away and
I guess going through andreflecting it was a time for
reflection.
We reflect on the year.
I often forget the cool stuffthat I'm doing and probably
don't take enough time toactually reflect and go through
things, because I am always justtrying to do more and hunt more
(02:12):
and, um, yeah, there's alwaysthings that pop up and I'm like
have a conversation with someoneand then I I probably don't
take enough time to let thatsoak in and go, wow, like that's
cool that I did that.
I brush over that a little bitmyself.
So I'm excited to unpack it andgoing through that with you
today will be really cool for meand, as you said, to share that
with everyone else as well,because it is something I'm
(02:33):
working on is I've got a coolstory and sharing it I probably
need to do more of and stopshying away from that so much so
in a setting like this, that'sgoing to be perfect man.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
For sure.
Having your so much so in asetting like this, that's going
to be perfect, man for sure.
Having your weekend to reflecton the progress that you've made
, what was one achievement thatreally stood out for you, that
you look back and go like youknow what a journey, what a ride
yeah, it's a good question, uh,because it's been this year
especially.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Like I mean, every year I've always had a growth
mindset and every year has beenbetter than the last.
But this year, uh, for me on apersonal level, I feel like I've
shifted into being a differentperson from even a year or two
ago, excrementally like biggerthan ever before.
And I mean the award that I didwin on the weekend was
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entrepreneur of the year for mybusiness coaching company, and
that award is my biggestachievement so far.
It really is, for me personally, like done some cool stuff and
being recognized for that indifferent ways over the last
couple of years, but it has tobe my biggest win, like it just,
yeah, it's something that Ithought was probably two or
three more years away for metruly, and to win it this year I
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was like, wow, fuck, I am doing.
It gave me validation that I amdoing really good, um,
especially compared to some ofthe amazing people that were in
the running for it.
Um, I often have thought aboutthat and heard the stories and
connected with these people andnot ever really put myself on
their level, like I alwaysthought I I've got a bit more to
give, and brushing shoulderswith those sort of people is
always really cool because itdoes does rise you up to do more
(04:06):
.
And I think now, like I meanit's only been a couple of days,
but now I see myself on thatlevel and I probably hadn't
quite recognized that yet, Ihadn't quite put myself there,
and now you know, I can, like Ican say that and uh, yeah, I
think it's going to be a littlebit more time before I fully
dive into that and own it, butyeah, it's given me a heap of
(04:26):
confidence and belief movingforward.
But yeah, I think you know onething that's probably it and it
only just happened a couple ofdays ago.
But the results of winningthat's been so many little wins
over the year that I've had justin business and personal life
and yeah, as you said in footy'sbeen really cool this year,
something different.
So, yeah, there's been.
It's been this year's beenabout me and just doing more of
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me and taking on new experiences, um, and and being a bit more
of a yes guy and just saying yesto different things.
That, and then we'll work therest out later mate,
congratulations.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Firstly, when I saw that, I was like, what a fucking
legend like.
You definitely deserve it.
What does it take, what does itreally take, to win that award?
Because there would be peopleonce again who are in that same
program as you who look at youand they probably go, wow, I
want to be there.
There's probably those peopleon the same level as you who do
probably understand what ittakes For someone like me or
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anyone listening.
What is it actually taking foryou to achieve that?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, it's a really good question and I guess the
metric that these guys use isvery much up for.
You know discussion, because inmy opinion and I lent into this
so essentially each coach ofthe company nominates a client
or two that they think is worthy, and for me, this is my third
year in a row being nominatedand I said as soon as I was
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nominated, like my coach man wework so closely together,
carlson, he's been great for meand getting his recognition for
me was a win and the win that Iwanted.
And then to win this as well isobviously awesome because the
boys have seen the work thatI've put in as well.
But I think for me and mysubmission and this is just me
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personally on entrepreneurship,I've spent a lot of time helping
my business and creating mybusiness to work for me, not me
work for my business, and thatmeans I'm not going to run some
of the numbers that some otherpeople are out there in terms of
revenue and members and clientsand profits and whatnot, but
that's not important to me.
(06:28):
So why pursue that direction?
For me, entrepreneurship isliving the life that you want
and you would understand thisLockie, about creating the life
that you're after and everythingthat you do and I do with you
has been a huge part of that aswell, and it's about working out
what makes you tick, what makesyou, I guess, want to be the
best version of you, what getsyou up in the morning and then
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going all in in that direction.
And for me, lifestyle is a highvalue of mine.
I get up, I work you know fiveto say 10, and then I have a few
hours during the middle of myday to just chill, relax.
I can go to the beach, I cansee people, I can catch up, I've
got freedom and for me that'swhat really I want my business
to be about.
And then I go back and I do abit more in the afternoon.
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And I was traveled to playfooty this year.
I trained a bit of half Ironmanin the back end of last year and
started this year, so I'm ableto go and do everything that I
want to do and my businesscomplementslements that and
that's what I lent into in mysubmission and to me that's what
true entrepreneurship is, and Iguess you know that was
obviously received well, becauseI know there's a lot of people
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out there that thinkentrepreneurship is just endless
, endless hours and you know youget worked over and you
probably miss a lot of things inlife that you don't get to go
and do.
And I think you, if that's youand that's what you want to do,
then absolutely go for it.
But for me, that's just not meand I'll always just try and be
as true to me as possible.
But I think for me, working outthe true me has taken since
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before the last time we caughtup 2020, whenever I joined the
Academy.
It's taken three years ofworking that out for me to, this
year, finally implement it andstay true to it and follow
through on it.
And that's why I see this yearas different to the rest,
because for the first two tothree years, it was just a lot
of working that out and you knowit's uncomfortable and you've
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got to go do the work onyourself and do the work on your
business.
And now this year, I feel likeI've reaped the rewards, gone
that direction and now, to berecognized it's, like you know,
feels good.
But it wasn't just this year,you know.
It was three or four years andeverything before that building
you up to that, for that to work, um, so I hope that answers
your question around the awardand how it's awarded yeah, no,
(08:40):
definitely does.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
If you were to, I guess, look at some of the
actions to do that, because athing that stood out is like
you're very clear on what youwant, and it does take time to
achieve that.
I think a lot of people nevergo in pursuit of figuring out
what they want, because when youfeel overwhelmed or you feel
lost, there's so many options orso many different directions
that you could take your life,and that can be overwhelming for
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people, and it leads toinaction.
But the most important thingthat you've done is you just
made a decision around somethingthat you felt you wanted, and
you went all in on that, andthen, over time, you've refined
that to put yourself in thatposition.
I think that's a very key pointto highlight for people Get
clear on what you want, even ifit takes you a number of years,
which it's more than likelygoing to.
(09:25):
What do you feel, though, if youwere a fly on the wall right
and you're hanging around Watto24-7,?
What would be some of thethings that have allowed you to
have the success that you've had?
Because, for me, it's very easyto sit on the outside and go.
Okay, watto decided he wantedto have a gym.
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He wanted to play footy inMelbourne, so he flew down,
played, trained and sent me tobusiness.
But what are, I guess, thethings going on in your head,
the sacrifices that you had tomake, that people don't see?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, it's a really good question because, like you
said, I guess you're probablysitting on that macro level and
you're seeing the results and itall happening.
But I guess, internally and forme, I put a huge, huge focus on
my discipline.
I believe I'm highlyself-disciplined, right down to
my routines.
I'm always trying to fine tunethat and what works for me,
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especially the morning,especially at night, works for
me, especially the morning,especially at night.
I have that, you know, down toan art form on what I know works
for me and how to stay reallyhigh energy.
I guess I think that's reallywhat is required is managing
your energy levels and for me,I'm extroverted, so I'm lucky to
do my job because when I'maround people I get more energy.
(10:40):
So that helps me for sure.
But right down to, as I said,just working out your morning,
your night routine on a really,really simple level and then
trying to vision and I spend alot of time, I'll say,
manifesting, but creating avision for what's to come Like I
can see it all for myself and Ican see myself in those
situations.
(11:01):
And that award on the weekend,I've pictured myself winning
that right.
And last year, when I didn'twin it and I was nominated.
I went home and I said to mycoach in an email I said I'm
going to win that award one year.
Like I told him that's what Iwas going to do.
I visioned myself doing it andthen I was like I know I need to
up my game, but I'll work outwhat I need to how to up my game
on the go.
I just know that's I want.
(11:21):
And then what are the actionitems around that?
And so I think it's trying to,I guess, manifest or look ahead
to what's to come.
And last year, in preparationfor this year, I planned my
entire year out on a calendar.
I wrote in things that I hadn'tdone yet but I wanted to do,
and then I set myself towardsthat.
(11:42):
And your plan to begin with isprobably never going to be
perfect and you don't want tospend too long working that out.
I think, like you said, somepeople probably think that they
want to do something and then go.
I don't even really know how todo it, so I'm not going to
bother, right?
I've built my life arounddeciding what I'm going to do
and then starting and going inthat direction, and it almost
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never looks the way, uh, thatyou planned it anyway, so just
start going in that direction.
And going in that directionanyway is where is the best part
?
Like the whatever's at the endof it is great and you think
that's often what you're after,but it's, it's, it's whatever
you've done along the way to getthere.
And I really felt that when Idid my half ironman at the start
of this year was the most bestfeeling I've ever had in my life
.
Crossing that line, um.
(12:25):
But then when I look back, I'mlike the entire time training
and committing yourself andgetting your diet right and the
endless hours, that was where Igot more growth than the actual
race itself, uh, and thatprobably sounds not cliche, but
that's like a really commonfeedback in in doing things like
that, and I've felt that now aswell.
So that would be my best advice, I think, um, is try and vision
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it for yourself first, createit, and it's first created up
here and then out in reality man, I, I am a massive believer.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I believe if you can't see it in your mind, it's
going to be very hard for you tocreate in reality, because the
the beauty of visualizing it.
If you can't get it there, youneed to start going to find out
what the missing pieces are andyou get closer to creating that
picture.
Yeah, rather than just going Ican't see it, therefore I can't
have it.
It's like you can have it.
You just got to fill in thosemissing pieces and you've got to
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have that first.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Oh, sorry you go, no, you go.
You've got to have that first,and this is what I was just
thinking on.
Then you've got to have thatfirst experience of making it
work, and then it's rep, you canreplicate it.
And I'm now in a position whereI've repeatedly done it now so
many times that I have no fearin going after the next thing,
because I've stacked enoughevidence for me to know that it
works.
Um.
(13:38):
And so I guess, if it's yourfirst time trying to commit to
something, um, don't make it toobig, don't make it too small,
but just commit and stack theevidence and prove to yourself
that you can do it, and thenreplicate it and replicate it,
and replicate it, and replicateit, and then you can replicate
it at scale.
Um, and start jumping into, youknow, some 10x ideas of god
knows what over time.
Um, which is what I'm startingto now dabble in as well.
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Um is like what's next, what'snext?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
and taking the time to work that out it's cool to
see as well, and as someone whohas been, I guess, a bit of a
fly on the wall watching yougrow over the last couple years,
you're very consistent.
You show up on the call everyweek, like week in, week out, or
if you don't, you you'llmessage me and let me know, but
you're probably one of the onlypeople who brings a game plan
all the time as well, which iswhat we use to track our
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progress, yeah, and the goalsthat you have.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Got it here always yeah yeah, yeah, always got, it,
Always got it.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
It's when you set your goals as well.
I believe they're realisticbecause they're always building
on the next one.
I don't feel like when you'resetting goals, you're not just
pulling random goals out of theair.
You're doing something that'sbuilding on the previous one
towards the next one, and that'swhy sorry, I got something in
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my throat that's why, for me, Ibelieve you've seen such success
, because you know what you want.
So it's like, okay, you spoke amoment ago, watto, about if the
goal seems too big, just breakit down into something a bit
more manageable and make thatthe 12-week goal, because
that'll be that next step orthat block into building the
wall.
You just go block by block orstep by step, and it's a very
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important thing.
Another thing you do really wellis with the questions that you
ask or the feedback that yougive to people.
It's like genuinely sincerequestions that you ask or the
feedback that you give to people.
It's genuinely sincere.
From my own insights, listeningto that.
It's when you are able to givepeople attention in a way that
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they feel valued and heard.
I just can't see you going inany other way than being
successful, because one of themost important parts in business
and in life is how you makepeople feel You've got the gift
of the gab with that and I knowyou've worked on that and you're
an extrovert, but you're verygood at that and you do that
every week on the call, and forme it's not about highlighting
that all the time on the call,but I wish people would go, okay
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, who's had a big year this year?
And I would look at yourself orGadi or a couple of other
people and you then go, okay,well, have they been on the call
every week?
Yes, have they completed fourgame plans?
Yes, are they investing inthemselves?
Yes, you invest in the academy.
You've also got the trainer,sorry what are they called again
?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Trainer HQ, trainer HQ.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, trainer HQ, and you're always investing in
yourself and they're veryimportant things because you
need, almost like the bumperrails and keeping you focused on
where you want to go and theresults that you want to have in
your life.
No, I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I just got a couple of things to say on that, Lockie
.
Just the framework that youprovide, man, it's all there if
you want it and just show upconsistently enough, and that is
what's going to get there.
Like you said, you askedearlier around what do I if you
followed me around for a day?
Well, I feel this out every day, Like I don't miss days.
I take it home with me, I planmy day out, I know what it looks
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like.
I reflect on what I didyesterday and it's really really
easy to do, but it's reallyreally easy to do, but it's also
really really easy not to do.
And you've got to create thediscipline around doing those
really basic things, and theystack up over a period of time.
I just had that thought whileyou were saying that and what
you said earlier around how doyou create success?
(17:18):
Well, you don't have to doanything too crazy.
To be honest.
In fact, I would be promptingyou to just do the basics really
really well.
Um, and it allows you access todo bigger things.
Uh, in the after a period oftime I agree, and that's what it
is I.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I find it fascinating that people find consistency
amazing.
When, when you show up andconstantly do what you said you
would do, or you're stillbuilding your business, you're
still training, I'm doing thesame people are like you're
still doing it.
I'm like, well, yeah, that'swhat I said I was going to do.
It doesn't matter if it'sraining or if I don't feel like
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doing it.
When I say I'm going to dosomething, I'm going to do
something, we don't need toovercomplicate it by throwing
excuses in there or feeling likewe don't need to over
complicate it by throwingexcuses in there or feeling like
we don't have the information.
You just start something and dothe thing.
You'll get feedback around.
What do I need to learn?
How can I be better?
You know and the beautifulthing is as well like I was
running in the rain the otherday.
I can't miss runs at the moment.
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It was piercing down, I dude on.
Uh, what day was it?
I had two wet runs in a row Ihad had Friday and Saturday and
my webbing in my toe like fullyripped and I was like I don't
know how the fuck that happenswhen your feet are together,
yeah, but for me it's like Ican't miss that run because I
said I was going to do it and Ialso know that for me right now,
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much like you were saying amoment ago, the celebration is
the run or the end result,whereas the hard work and the
opportunity for growth is whatyou do in the lead up to that,
and people quite often want theend, but they don't want to do
the hard shit to get there.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Matt, I couldn't agree more and, like what you
were just saying, I tick thesame as you.
My word to me is everything,and if I do say I'm going to do
something, I just have to do it.
Like I just have to find a way,uh, and I think that's really,
really important is having yourown word to yourself, um, and,
and like I said that for me,that's just staying true to me.
But also, you know, if I commit, I commit, I'm all in on things
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and 100% I can't half-assanything.
And if I think I'm going tohalf-ass anything, then I'm not
going to commit to it and I justcompletely remove myself from
whatever that is, um, and put mytime, energy and effort into
something that I can, um, and ittakes a little bit, I think, to
work that out about yourself.
Um, and maybe not everyone tickslike that, but, um, yeah, I
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just know that if you, if you dohave that, if you have that
feeling or that, know a desireto do a little bit more, do
something different, then thereprobably is something there to
say go and do it.
And if you're going to do it,you may as well really go and do
it.
Like, don't fuck around, justgo in that direction as hard as
you can and, like you said, theresults are all on the other
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side of that.
But it's often more just uphere, probably, where you're
ticking over on committing in adirection.
But yeah, you don't want tostay there for too long, because
once you take time to decide onthings, you often talk yourself
out of them rather than intothem.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
So, yeah, that's a great point talking yourself out
of things rather than into itand that's a massive one.
What's the biggest challenge?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
you faced this year and how did you respond to it?
Oh, that's a good question.
I'm actually going to say I'mgoing to look at the back end of
last year a little bit as well,and into this year.
So I did a half Ironman thisyear, just over 12 months after
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I actually failed my firsttriathlon.
I don't know if you rememberthat, but I fainted 400 metres
short of the finish line in myfirst triathlon and it would
have been easy then to just go.
You know, I nearly got there,or or you know I'll do another
one maybe sometime.
But I went back to the drawingboard because I failed that,
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because I had no plan, I had anego, around just going all guns
blazing, and how I did thattriathlon was how I do life.
I was just gun-ho.
But I went back to the drawingboard board and it took 12
months um, a large part.
I was training that forprobably eight months because I
played a bit of footy there forfour months in between went back
to the drawing board and saidwell, you know what did I do
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wrong last time?
Um, and I'm actually committingto a half ironman this time.
So I've got to do close todouble of everything this time
around, uh, and then execute.
I created a plan and executed aplan around that that was less
ego and more accomplished.
And then executing that on raceday because I'd failed the
first race day it felt like along way back.
But to get over the line andthe reason I fainted the first
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time was dehydration and failedto fuel up correctly on a really
hot day.
And then the second time, aroundaround, there was moments off
the bike where I was starting tocramp in my quads and I was
rushing.
I had these thoughts rushingback of fuck, it's gonna happen
again.
Like, I can't believe this, Ican't like.
I've planned and had to calmmyself down and just try and
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breathe through and relax andwithin you know, five, ten
minutes, the cramps had settledand I found my legs again and
managed to finish off.
And I just can distinctlyremember that point of like, oh
no, it's happening again, I'mgoing to fail again, I'm going
to.
You know, this is going to beso embarrassing, I can't believe
this.
Like, and I had to really tryand calm myself down and
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overcome those thoughts andthankfully I was able to and was
able to cross the line and um,that that moment, crossing the
line for me was just euphoria,because I'd failed so badly 12
months earlier.
To then cross and and hit theline and get that done was just
like it was me overcoming andbeating myself, um, and, and it
was also me making a reallystrong comeback after failing,
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uh, the first time around.
But so it happened in.
It happened in feb this year,so it counts as this year, I
think, but it was probably 12months worth of planning and
getting it right the second timearound to overcome it.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Oh, dude, I'm glad you brought that up.
I still remember when I hit youup to see how you went the
first time.
You're like I fainted man.
I was like I thought you weretaking a piss.
I was about to give some backand then one of the other boys
in the group was like no, what Ifainted.
I was like far out, poorbastard yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I try and not think about it too much now.
I just try and think about theone this year.
But there's good lessons in it,so you've got to acknowledge it
.
I can laugh about it now gostung and uh.
Yeah, it was uh not ideal, butthere was so many lessons in it
wasn't there and I was able togo and rectify that and then
make it happen this year.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
so why weren't you defined by that failure?
I think failure is a veryinteresting thing to look at.
Many people would have had thathappen and they never would
have raced again.
Yeah, what makes you different?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
it's a good question.
Uh, I understand that, uh,failure is inevitable and, uh, I
try and seek discomfort where Ican.
Not to that level again, Idon't think, but, uh, but uh,
I've been through, and the lasttime I jumped on your pod lock,
he was under completelydifferent circumstances.
I lived out a life experiencethat was very challenging in
(24:27):
ways that is often unimaginable,and was able to come out the
other side and redefine who Iwas and where my life was and
the direction it was going, andthat experience itself was
really truly life-changing.
And there was a heap ofadversity involved in that um
that I was able to to to getthrough.
And now I have this likefeeling of like, uh, not seeking
(24:52):
anything, like trying to findthat out for myself, seeking it
out, um, on my own terms, Iguess, but I understand on a
really deep level what it's liketo find that and get through
that and get through things.
And I get that same sort offeeling after failing something
or coming out the other side andrecreating it.
So I think it's, yeah, a littlebit of that for sure, but, yeah
(25:18):
, I guess it's resilience thatyou build as well, and I often
even with a with a couple of mymates always talk about just
building character and ifsomething's not going well or
something's going to be tough, Iwill always say it builds good
character.
I try and reprogram and redefinewhat tough and challenging
things mean to me and try andseek them out, if anything,
because I know that I'm going tobe a better person and better
(25:39):
for it.
And it's a mindset change thatyou know some people might not
understand but for me that's howI just try and reframe and
reprogram things is well, I'mgoing to be better for this, and
often that is on the other sideof failure, but I'm going to be
.
I'm going to have bettercharacter, more character.
So it's like a mindset shift.
I think that you know isn'teasy to adapt, but at the same
time it can be dumb.
(25:59):
With a bit of programming orreprogramming, I guess, around
what challenges and failuresactually mean to you and how
they're inevitable and how often, if you're finding them
constantly and getting throughthem, you can stack evidence to
actually reprogram and shiftwhat that actually means to you.
Because if someone's facing achallenge, you know they can
often go is this too much?
All right, I'm not going to doit.
Or to someone else that samechallenge is like I'm going to
(26:22):
get over that and through it andgo the other side, and that's
the two differences.
I think in people that actuallyget what they want and achieve
things that they want, ratherthan or don't you know spot on.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
It's definitely a mindset thing and understanding
the lesson that is on the otherside.
We only know what we know andif we knew the things we needed,
we would would have the resultsto accompany that.
Obviously, when you don't havethe results, it's because you
don't understand things.
If everyone were to geteverything right the first time,
there would be no such thing asfailure and everyone would be
wealthy, healthy and happy.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
The reality is if you look around.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
it'd be like the Truman Show You'd wake up and
the same shit would be happeningevery day.
We'd be shitting gold bricks.
But the challenge of that is,if you want to be one of those
one percenters, you have toshift your mindset to the point
where you have a healthyrelationship with failure,
because in order to learn, youmust fail.
(27:21):
And the level that you can fail.
So the level that you getcomfortable failing is the level
that you get comfortablesucceeding in.
So if you want to succeedquickly, you better buckle up,
because you're going to failfast and you're going to fail
hard.
But if you're not comfortablewith that, success may be a
little bit slower, and that'spersonal for each individual.
Success may be a little bitslower, and that's personal for
each individual.
(27:42):
What I've witnessed with youover the last couple of years is
you're just going hard man,like balls to the wall.
What does it look like for you,now that you've spent the last
couple of years getting to knowwho you are and what you want
and what you stand for, to nowhaving this year where you've
been recognized for the workthat you've done?
I still don't believe that abit of recognition changes the
(28:05):
work ethic or who you are.
You've been that person.
Now people are starting to takenotice, which is awesome.
But what does that look likefor you for 2025?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, that's a really good question because that is
something I've put a little bitof thought into, especially when
we were reflecting Thursday,friday at the conference, then
even again over the weekend, um,because I got that question.
It's like, well, what's next,what's on for 2025?
And I'm gonna have to take alittle bit of time because, like
you said, each year on year forthe last few years, it's been
really clear to me what I'mworking towards um in terms of
(28:38):
goals and business revenue, andpersonally it's been.
I've known what I'm going forand to now feel like I've got a
lot of alignment with that, thedirection next year.
To me it isn't clear yet andand I think that's really,
really cool because it shows methat you know, I've got a lot of
things in place that I wasworking towards and I think it's
(28:58):
going to take a little bit oftime now for me to decide that
and and sit with that, and fornow, it's just going to take a
little bit of time now for me todecide that and sit with that,
and for now it's just going tobe more of the same.
Like you said, a little bit ofrecognition for me is not going
to change anything.
If anything, I've got a level tolive up to now and you know
I've got a reputation to upholdand I'm going to be doing much
(29:24):
of the same.
That's got me to where I am now,and I said you got to do the
basics really, really well.
So not none of that will changeand then I think it'll be clear
in a short amount of timewhat's next and when it comes
time to recognize that and go inthat direction, I'm going to
repeat the evidence that I'vestacked already and going hard
and fast in that direction andworking the rest out along the
way.
Yeah, so there's not one bigthing that I know yet, but I
(29:46):
know I'm just going to keepdoing what I'm doing and have
been doing and take a little bitof time.
As I said, this time last year,I sat down, I planned out 2025
in december, um, on a calendarand everything that I wanted to
do, um, and for me next year, Iwant to do a little bit of
travel.
I'm going to book that in, andI was saying on the weekend as
well doing doing a month inEurope was where I want to go.
(30:10):
For me that's an awesomepersonal achievement to go and
do, and I'm sure I'm going tolearn a lot about myself over
there.
But for me that's a businessgoal, because if I can leave my
business for a month and have itoperate without me, I know I've
got my business to a level thatis higher than I've had it
before, so it's twofold for me,something like that, and that
might end up just being my goalthat I tick off for next year.
(30:30):
I don't know, like I said, Idon't have a really clear thing
that I'm working towards foronce, but I think for me also,
maybe sitting with that and nothaving something to work towards
could be a goal in itself aswell, because I have been, like
you said, just one thing afterthe other, after the after,
after the other.
Maybe sitting in some stillnessfor a month or two before it's
(30:52):
time to connect, to commit tosomething, could be really cool
as well.
Because, like I said to you, ifI'm not really ticked to do
something, I won't commit to itat all, and if I create, create
a goal just for the sake ofcreating a goal, then my chances
at executing and actually doingit and sticking with it are
probably going to be pretty lowanyway, or less than they have
before.
So I think I'm just going tosit with it for a little bit and
(31:13):
I'll plan out next year andreflect on this year.
And when it comes time, you'llbe one of the first to know, of
course, and we'll go in thatdirection.
And when it comes time, you'llbe one of the first to know, of
course, and we'll go in thatdirection.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Can't wait to hear what it is.
I think two things that jumpedout for me was the first one if
you're not motivated to do it,you're not going to set a goal
for the sake of it.
I think that's a very importantthing because when you go back
to evidence that you stack, orconfidence that you build from
completing or moving towardsachieving a goal, Most people
are setting goals that theythink sound sexy or people will
(31:45):
like, but they're not doing itfor intrinsic reasons and they
set themselves up to fail andthey compound poor confidence
and poor results and poorevidence.
The second thing was takingtime to actually think about it.
When you become more successful, I would say and when I say
successful I mean you're gettingruns on the board and evidence
(32:06):
on the board to support whoyou're becoming, in the life
that you're building, you don'thave to make as many goals.
I don't believe, because I'm inthat same boat where my life is
amazing, my health is amazing,my finances are amazing,
everything's great, and Idefinitely wanted to be better,
(32:27):
but I don't have that samehunger.
What I'm, I guess, challengingmyself to do is live life and
earn more in different ways.
The fact that I can take morethan two months off now really
from proper work to focus onrunning around America to me is
the pat on the back that you'vebuilt this business to do what
(32:47):
it does, and like it's humblingto do that, like that's cool and
yeah, maybe I'll experience theissues in January, february,
march, but I would never figurethat out if I didn't take the
risk to do that anyway.
And, much like you said, it's abusiness goal as much as it is
a personal goal and afundraising goal.
It's just like it's allconnected and it's all linked
and it's just like this newversion of who I want to become
(33:13):
and I think, taking time tothink about that, think about
the impact of goals, andsometimes you can just give
yourself a couple of months.
I think when I moved to America, I gave myself probably three
or four months before I actuallyset a hardcore goal again.
I was just like wanting toenjoy myself and look at things,
learn things and experiencethings.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I couldn't agree more .
Everything you just said wasresonating with me so much.
And, you know, the directionthat you're going and what
you're doing, like that inspiresme as well, because you're
showing us what's possible and Ithink that's really really cool
to be able to see someone goand do that and then see that
for yourself as well.
And, like you said, I'mprobably going to take the rest
of December to, you know, reallythink about the next goal and
(33:53):
I'm really keen to start nextyear with a bang like the first,
I think, setting a year like anintention for the year and a
goal.
The start of this year I did 12weeks off alcohol, completely
and especially leading into theevent, and I'll probably do the
same again next year, I think,just to set myself up and get
some real clarity and, you know,take control and do a lot of
(34:16):
thinking and break the cycle ofwhat I'm doing just to learn a
bit more about myself, because Igot so much out of that this
year as well.
So I think you know I canresonate with that that so much.
Take the time if you've got it,and it's a cool, really cool
place to be for me, um, becauseit does feel like I've sort of
just leveled up to this levelnow and I can take the time to
think about um, what's next?
(34:37):
And, like I said, the idea of10xing and going again in a
really big way in a direction.
I need that feeling of of fuck,that's scary, maybe like and
have that self-doubt again andgo through the process of
potentially failing and probablyfailing again and get on the
other side of that and then doit again on another level and
repeating the process.
(34:58):
So, yeah, it's cool to see andwe'll see what comes.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
How do you feel 18-year-old Watto would be
viewing you Like how do you feelhe'd feel about you?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, I think he would be inspired.
For sure, and that's somecommon feedback.
I get around beinginspirational and still feels
uncomfortable for me to own thatin a lot of ways.
Even saying that just then, I,I don't fully grasp the impact
that I'm having on that levelfor some people, um, but I would
also be the most proud, I think, around my resilience.
(35:37):
Um, and seeing someone be soresilient it gets me going.
Um, I, I think so, I, I can't.
I think if I was 18 to now, likeI've changed so much.
But it's like, it's like weightloss, like you often don't see
the results in the mirror, um,when you're losing weight and
then someone will say to you onetime why you've lost so much
weight and you'll go, oh, like,how good is that?
(35:58):
That's how it is for me as well.
Like, from 18 to now, I've justbeen going through and doing my
thing, going this direction,and then now to think, like the
change then to there.
It's hard to grasp in a lot ofways, but I think, especially
this year, this has been my yearwhere I've turned from a boy to
a man.
I truly believe that I stillthink I had not immaturities,
(36:21):
but I think I've really foundmyself and grown up in a lot of
ways and, like you said, own whoI am and I think some people
don't find that out for so long,sometimes ever but for me that
this year has been lining thesand sort of year, with owning
that and moving into that andbeing able to say that to you.
So yeah, and that's taken 10years from when I was 18.
(36:42):
So I think if I was talking tomy 18 year old self, it would
just be to just say look, it'sall there in front of you.
If you want it, you've just gotto show up and do the basics
and, uh, do them well that's thekey if you want it.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
So, outside of business, what are you working
on?
Like you've said, you've done acouple of halves like what?
Is there anything that you'retraining towards within 2025?
Speaker 2 (37:05):
yeah, really good question.
I've gone, uh, I finished footylast game, um, and I've given
the break body a little bit of abreak off cardio.
I'm about to finish up a12-week strength program.
I've been doing it with mymembers, um, which has been
really cool to go through theirexperience and do all that
together, um, and and feelreally really strong in the body
, strong in the mind.
Um, I'll enter some cardio backin the start of next year and
(37:30):
then build up for footy again,but I guess a physical goal for
me now isn't really on the cards.
I'm studying again at the moment, which has been cool to get
back into and upskill in,because I'm always looking for
ways to be a better trainer andbetter at what I do.
I.
That's really really important,uh.
(37:50):
So I think now for now, likedoing that and pushing my body
in the strength direction.
I've never done that before,like, I've always worked out,
obviously, but I've alwayspaired it up with cardio and
playing footy and tried to dothat.
Yeah, do it all and, uh, at themoment I'm just seeing what I
can do in that direction, um,with my movements and get really
really strong in my foundationsand um, take the time to focus
(38:12):
on that and go through that withmy members.
So, for now, that that's cool,it's been cool to do that and do
it really really well.
Um, so, yeah, that's it for now, but uh, who knows, at the
start of next year somethingmight grab my attention.
But yeah, like I said, goinginto footy season, I normally
just focus on that, just play abit of footy and, um, yeah, for
me, like footy, just it's mything.
(38:34):
I've always done it.
It's it's my, it's somethingthat I love doing, and I want to
play footy for as long as I canwhile my body allows me to,
because you can't, you're a longtime retired and uh, you know
all all those physicalchallenges and a full Ironman is
absolutely on my agenda.
I will do one one day, but Iwant to do it and do it well and
train for 12 months in the leadup and it's just right now.
(38:56):
I don't want to overbite andtry and do too much.
I'll get to that one day, forsure.
But I've already visionedmyself crossing that full
Ironman line, like I can see.
That already started to createthose visions.
Even though I might not do onefor 10 years, I already know
that's on my pipeline.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Oh man, that excites me.
One of the biggest regrets thatI live with is retiring from
rugby too early, so it's awesometo hear you say that you want
to.
You know, play for as long asyou can, because you know I quit
, one because of the culture,but two more so to try and build
a business, and I wish I hadthe head on the shoulders that
you do where you realize you cando all of it.
(39:34):
It's just about managing yourtime and your priorities, and my
body will never be able to goback to doing that.
So I've got the next howevermany years of my life thinking
about, you know, wishing to playthat, but I find you know
there's other competitiveoutlets, so that's fine.
What's the study like, man?
What are you studying again?
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Studying a corrective exercise program essentially.
So it's all self-paced.
It'll probably take me six toeight months, so there's a fair
bit of self-discipline requiredto get back into study mode.
Um, so there's a fair bit ofself-discipline required to get
back into study mode.
Um, at the moment I've justbeen doing two to three one hour
blocks a week and, uh, justblocking everything out, sitting
down and just fitting it inwhere I can um, but essentially
(40:16):
it's correcting people'smovement patterns from either
being sedentary or overuse um,which is which is cool and you
know some stuff I've alreadylearned along the way and go oh
yeah, cool, I know that and youknow, I can see that.
And then they provide aframework to sort of apply and
the direction I see.
Like I see people every day comein with broken movement
patterns, especially aroundsitting.
(40:37):
Like you've worked anine-to-five in front of a desk,
in front of a computer at adesk, and chair your body now,
like you've heard it before,sitting as a new smoking it's,
it's it's really creating someproblems for people in their
everyday life.
So, trying to get on the frontfoot with, with fixing that um,
because I I think there's goingto be more of it to come um and
(40:57):
being able to learn a frameworkand apply that and learn some
new, cool little things.
I think it's going to be reallyapplicable in terms of
upskilling myself as a trainer,um, and it's one of those basics
I've got to do really, reallywell.
I've got to fix people'sproblems, both physically and
between the ears when they cometo the gym.
So, yeah, I saw an opportunityand I see a gap in the market
because I think there's going tobe more of it and it's going to
(41:18):
be more in demand and, yeah,I'm excited to see what comes
from it.
I'm only just started, maybe six, eight weeks ago, but, as I
said, I'm just chipping away atit and finish it sometime next
year and then work out what thatlooks like in a business sense.
Can it be applied to thebusiness?
Can I offer something in termsof programming?
Take people on Automatically inmy PTs.
It's going to be awesome to beable to implement that straight
(41:40):
away and help my guys some moreas well.
So, yeah, different cool.
Getting back into that studymindset I haven't studied for
God knows how long, but yeah,it's finding ways to make it
complement your life I don'twant to be what I'm learning
about and fit there for five,six hours and study.
I'm doing one hour blocks andthen just try to do that two,
three times a week for now.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Dude.
I think you've got it sortedthere, man.
I'm excited to see what happens,and you're continuing to invest
in yourself, both financially,with the coaching and the things
that you do, but also in yourmind, to become a better coach,
and cream rises to the top.
Man, if you want to be one ofthose 1%ers, that's what you
need to do to get ahead and tostand out and to be able to add
(42:26):
more value to more people.
And it just blows my mind thatwe have access to podcasts much
like this, or YouTube, orcourses, coaches, and we can
learn all of these things thatcan literally change our life.
Whether we do it for our ownpersonal use learning about
nutrition, movement patterns,making money, our relationships
or if you're doing it to applyto your business or your career
(42:51):
it's there and available.
Yet people still don't dedicatetime to using the resources
that are available, and it blowsmy mind, but it also inspires
me to see you grabbing life bythe balls and doing those things
so that you can be the bestversion of yourself and, as you
said earlier, create the lifethat you want to live, one that
you wake up jumping out of bedknowing that you've got a bit of
(43:13):
downtime to go for a swim.
You're playing the sports, butyou're also having an impact in
building a business that you'reproud of.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
I couldn't agree more .
We've got more access toinformation um, if you want it,
uh than ever before.
Uh, and, like I said, you'repart of my morning routine.
I get half an hour of a podcastin of some sort first thing in
the morning around health andfitness.
I've got a specific um traineror group of trainers that I
listen to and that's how I startmy day and I think being
intentional with how you startyour day, um, and and what
(43:43):
you're consuming is really,really, really important.
Even here, I've got my values upon the wall.
I see that first thing in themorning every day.
Right now, I can see mycalendar over here, I fill out
the journal every day and so, byproximity, I've created a
system around being inspired andstaying on track, and if you
don't do those things and takecontrol, then you go the other
(44:04):
direction and, unfortunately, aspowerful as and how cool it is
to get access to information,you are often going to be set up
to fail based on algorithms ifthey're going the other way,
because you're going to consumecontent that is just not helpful
at all and consume more of it.
And it comes down to creatingthat system for yourself to be
empowered, and that's what I tryand do, as much as I can, to
(44:27):
try and create someself-accountability as well.
But, yeah, it's all a controlthing to me.
I don't like not being incontrol of myself, and the more
I see what's happening a lot ofpeople they're not in control of
any part of their life.
They're just going through thecycle of life and life's
happening to them and at anypoint it takes a second to make
(44:48):
that decision, to switch.
Um, and I think what you and Iare doing is trying to inspire
more of that and and try andcreate evidence for people that
you can do it.
Uh, and there's nothing specialabout you and I that no one
else can't do.
That's the thing.
Um, it's just around beingaround those people more, and
that's why I show up on the callevery week, because it keeps me
accountable and I'm aroundpeople that are trying to be
(45:08):
better, and you've got to findthose sort of people.
And, along with everything thisyear, one thing I did was I
created new connections withpeople that are like that and I
made that decision to go.
I need to create and get myselfaround more like-minded people,
and that meant letting go ofsome, some people, putting some
people in some differentpositions in my life, and trying
to find people that give meenergy and support me and then
(45:31):
lift each other up and be partof your group.
You know as much as I canbecause, um, you've got to try
and understand that as much asyou can.
Otherwise, you let negativityfill you up, you let the
internet just control whatyou're consuming, and that's the
direction your life will gowell said dude, well said what.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Where can people find you?
You're up in caloundra, butwhere can people one follow you
if they want to work with you?
How does that all work?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
yeah, yeah, really good question.
Uh, yeah, what fit caloundra is?
Uh, is my studio?
Um opened that one two yearsago, so if anyone wants to come
check it out, I'm always inthere, don't worry about that.
If you want to jump in and do asesh, my studio, I'm really,
really proud of what I'vecreated there and love showing
it off.
And, yeah, that's a lifetime'sworth of work that's gone into
(46:21):
that and, like you said, manyfailings.
So even when I walk into thereevery day, I still feel inspired
just walking in there and someof the stories around it.
So, what fit Caloundra, checkout what we're doing?
Yeah, if you want to come inand train meet chat, I'm always
open.
Like you said, lucky, I just Ilove helping people.
I really, really do, and I willalways listen and I know people
(46:41):
appreciate being heard.
I believe empathy is superpower, uh, and I'm empathetic with
everyone that I meet on anylevel.
I'll take the time to chatthings out and, um, yeah, it
gets me going.
I get more I just as much ofhelping someone as what they do
from from my help man.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
I love it what I've made.
It's obviously been superinspiring getting to watch
firsthand, and I've been wantingto have this convo on a public
platform for a long while sincewe did our first one, just
because you've literally justmade such huge improvements in
your quality of life.
And it just goes back to thatquote where you're like the
universe and get the fuck out ofyour way because I'm creating
the life that I want and theconfidence and intensity that
(47:24):
you said that in that episode.
Looking back, I'm like it's nowonder you're in the position
that you're in and there's somany things that I've witnessed
from consistency to filling outthe game plan, to investing in
yourself, to not over committingto things is the reason why I
believe you've become sosuccessful.
And, for anyone listening,you're someone that I value
being around.
(47:44):
I value when we get to havephone calls because, much to
your point before, I want to bearound people who are doing cool
shit and who are inspiring me,because it just helps me
continue to lift my standards.
There would have been no way Icould have gone on this podcast
right now and walked off notfeeling more inspired.
So thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Brother, thank you, and right back at you,
everything you just said.
You're a mentor of mine.
I love everything that you'redoing.
Seeing what you're doing nextyear with the marathons, that
just gets me going, you know.
It makes me want to be betterand you've got to be around
people like that.
You've got to be around peoplelike that as much as you can,
because people that make youwant to be better, yeah, you've
got to seek them out and spendas much time with them as you
(48:25):
can.
And you know, for me, businesscan be a lonely place sometimes.
I'm a one-man band, but youknow I seek out, you know,
people like yourself and mybusiness coach Carlson as well.
I know that you guys are goingto be able to, you know, make me
and lift me up as much aspossible.
So thank you as well, brother,I really appreciate everything
you do and, yeah, you've been abig part of getting to me where
(48:49):
I am today and no doubt,whatever happens over the next
few years, we could be doingthis again in two, three more
years and talking about Godknows what.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
We will be brother Jacob Watson, everyone founder
of what Fit Caloundra.
He was the Entrepreneur of theYear at the Trainer HQ Awards
and someone that I'm inspired inmassive amounts.
Mate, thank you so much foryour time.
As always, do something todayto be better for tomorrow.
Welcome back to the man that Can.
With Lockie Stewart, We've gota returning guest back from
episode 312.
Watto, can you believe our lastepisode was on June 7th 2021?
.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
I can't.
I knew it was some time ago.
But yeah, when you say it likethat and timelines and things
for me, like when you're tryingto reflect back things happening
at different times, it's alwayshard to gauge.
So that's cool to hear.
I'm excited to be back.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Mate.
It's wild when I was lookingback through, because I listened
to it again this morning and Iwas like I can't believe it's
already been over three years.
That's scary how quickly timegoes, mate.
I wanted to get you back onhere, one to catch up, but two
to share with people, or allowyou to share with people where
you're at.
You're one of these people thatI watch in my life.
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You do so much more than yousay, which I think is probably
the most important thing ingetting great results in life.
You're thriving in footy,you're thriving in business and
you're thriving in your personallife.
And you, you're thriving infooty, you're thriving in
business and you're thriving inyour personal life.
You're someone that inspires me.
So I wanted to get you on hereto give people a bit of an
update on where you're at sinceour last chat, but also I want
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to pull it apart and, I guess,find out why you think the way
you do.
I remember one of the quotesthat stood out in our last
episode was the universe can getthe fuck out of your way, and
you appear to be living by thatstill.
So firstly, dude, how are you?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Mate, I'm great and I'm glad you mentioned all that.
I really appreciate those kindwords and you're an inspiration
of mine as well, man, and Iappreciate having you as my
mentor and everything you do.
But, yeah, that mindset I don'tknow exactly where it comes
from, but it's something thatit's still there.
It still gets me going.
It's what you know gets me outof bed in the morning to keep
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pressing on and off.
The back of the weekend I had areally cool conference away and
I guess going through andreflecting it was a time for
reflection.
We reflect on the year.
I often forget the cool stuffthat I'm doing and probably
don't take enough time toactually reflect and go through
things, because I am always justtrying to do more and hunt more
(02:12):
and, um, yeah, there's alwaysthings that pop up and I'm like
have a conversation with someoneand then I I probably don't
take enough time to let thatsoak in and go, wow, like that's
cool that I did that.
I brush over that a little bitmyself.
So I'm excited to unpack it andgoing through that with you
today will be really cool for meand, as you said, to share that
with everyone else as well,because it is something I'm
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working on is I've got a coolstory and sharing it I probably
need to do more of and stopshying away from that so much so
in a setting like this, that'sgoing to be perfect man.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
For sure.
Having your so much so in asetting like this, that's going
to be perfect, man for sure.
Having your weekend to reflecton the progress that you've made
, what was one achievement thatreally stood out for you, that
you look back and go like youknow what a journey, what a ride
yeah, it's a good question, uh,because it's been this year
especially.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Like I mean, every year I've always had a growth
mindset and every year has beenbetter than the last.
But this year, uh, for me on apersonal level, I feel like I've
shifted into being a differentperson from even a year or two
ago, excrementally like biggerthan ever before.
And I mean the award that I didwin on the weekend was
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entrepreneur of the year for mybusiness coaching company, and
that award is my biggestachievement so far.
It really is, for me personally, like done some cool stuff and
being recognized for that indifferent ways over the last
couple of years, but it has tobe my biggest win, like it just,
yeah, it's something that Ithought was probably two or
three more years away for metruly, and to win it this year I
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was like, wow, fuck, I am doing.
It gave me validation that I amdoing really good, um,
especially compared to some ofthe amazing people that were in
the running for it.
Um, I often have thought aboutthat and heard the stories and
connected with these people andnot ever really put myself on
their level, like I alwaysthought I I've got a bit more to
give, and brushing shoulderswith those sort of people is
always really cool because itdoes does rise you up to do more
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.
And I think now, like I meanit's only been a couple of days,
but now I see myself on thatlevel and I probably hadn't
quite recognized that yet, Ihadn't quite put myself there,
and now you know, I can, like Ican say that and uh, yeah, I
think it's going to be a littlebit more time before I fully
dive into that and own it, butyeah, it's given me a heap of
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confidence and belief movingforward.
But yeah, I think you know onething that's probably it and it
only just happened a couple ofdays ago.
But the results of winningthat's been so many little wins
over the year that I've had justin business and personal life
and yeah, as you said in footy'sbeen really cool this year,
something different.
So, yeah, there's been.
It's been this year's beenabout me and just doing more of
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me and taking on new experiences, um, and and being a bit more
of a yes guy and just saying yesto different things.
That, and then we'll work therest out later mate,
congratulations.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Firstly, when I saw that, I was like, what a fucking
legend like.
You definitely deserve it.
What does it take, what does itreally take, to win that award?
Because there would be peopleonce again who are in that same
program as you who look at youand they probably go, wow, I
want to be there.
There's probably those peopleon the same level as you who do
probably understand what ittakes For someone like me or
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anyone listening.
What is it actually taking foryou to achieve that?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, it's a really good question and I guess the
metric that these guys use isvery much up for.
You know discussion, because inmy opinion and I lent into this
so essentially each coach ofthe company nominates a client
or two that they think is worthy, and for me, this is my third
year in a row being nominatedand I said as soon as I was
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nominated, like my coach man wework so closely together,
carlson, he's been great for meand getting his recognition for
me was a win and the win that Iwanted.
And then to win this as well isobviously awesome because the
boys have seen the work thatI've put in as well.
But I think for me and mysubmission and this is just me
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personally on entrepreneurship,I've spent a lot of time helping
my business and creating mybusiness to work for me, not me
work for my business, and thatmeans I'm not going to run some
of the numbers that some otherpeople are out there in terms of
revenue and members and clientsand profits and whatnot, but
that's not important to me.
(06:28):
So why pursue that direction?
For me, entrepreneurship isliving the life that you want
and you would understand thisLockie, about creating the life
that you're after and everythingthat you do and I do with you
has been a huge part of that aswell, and it's about working out
what makes you tick, what makesyou, I guess, want to be the
best version of you, what getsyou up in the morning and then
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going all in in that direction.
And for me, lifestyle is a highvalue of mine.
I get up, I work you know fiveto say 10, and then I have a few
hours during the middle of myday to just chill, relax.
I can go to the beach, I cansee people, I can catch up, I've
got freedom and for me that'swhat really I want my business
to be about.
And then I go back and I do abit more in the afternoon.
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And I was traveled to playfooty this year.
I trained a bit of half Ironmanin the back end of last year and
started this year, so I'm ableto go and do everything that I
want to do and my businesscomplementslements that and
that's what I lent into in mysubmission and to me that's what
true entrepreneurship is, and Iguess you know that was
obviously received well, becauseI know there's a lot of people
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out there that thinkentrepreneurship is just endless
, endless hours and you know youget worked over and you
probably miss a lot of things inlife that you don't get to go
and do.
And I think you, if that's youand that's what you want to do,
then absolutely go for it.
But for me, that's just not meand I'll always just try and be
as true to me as possible.
But I think for me, working outthe true me has taken since
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before the last time we caughtup 2020, whenever I joined the
Academy.
It's taken three years ofworking that out for me to, this
year, finally implement it andstay true to it and follow
through on it.
And that's why I see this yearas different to the rest,
because for the first two tothree years, it was just a lot
of working that out and you knowit's uncomfortable and you've
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got to go do the work onyourself and do the work on your
business.
And now this year, I feel likeI've reaped the rewards, gone
that direction and now, to berecognized it's, like you know,
feels good.
But it wasn't just this year,you know.
It was three or four years andeverything before that building
you up to that, for that to work, um, so I hope that answers
your question around the awardand how it's awarded yeah, no,
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definitely does.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
If you were to, I guess, look at some of the
actions to do that, because athing that stood out is like
you're very clear on what youwant, and it does take time to
achieve that.
I think a lot of people nevergo in pursuit of figuring out
what they want, because when youfeel overwhelmed or you feel
lost, there's so many options orso many different directions
that you could take your life,and that can be overwhelming for
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people, and it leads toinaction.
But the most important thingthat you've done is you just
made a decision around somethingthat you felt you wanted, and
you went all in on that, andthen, over time, you've refined
that to put yourself in thatposition.
I think that's a very key pointto highlight for people Get
clear on what you want, even ifit takes you a number of years,
which it's more than likelygoing to.
(09:25):
What do you feel, though, if youwere a fly on the wall right
and you're hanging around Watto24-7,?
What would be some of thethings that have allowed you to
have the success that you've had?
Because, for me, it's very easyto sit on the outside and go.
Okay, watto decided he wantedto have a gym.
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He wanted to play footy inMelbourne, so he flew down,
played, trained and sent me tobusiness.
But what are, I guess, thethings going on in your head,
the sacrifices that you had tomake, that people don't see?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, it's a really good question because, like you
said, I guess you're probablysitting on that macro level and
you're seeing the results and itall happening.
But I guess, internally and forme, I put a huge, huge focus on
my discipline.
I believe I'm highlyself-disciplined, right down to
my routines.
I'm always trying to fine tunethat and what works for me,
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especially the morning,especially at night, works for
me, especially the morning,especially at night.
I have that, you know, down toan art form on what I know works
for me and how to stay reallyhigh energy.
I guess I think that's reallywhat is required is managing
your energy levels and for me,I'm extroverted, so I'm lucky to
do my job because when I'maround people I get more energy.
(10:40):
So that helps me for sure.
But right down to, as I said,just working out your morning,
your night routine on a really,really simple level and then
trying to vision and I spend alot of time, I'll say,
manifesting, but creating avision for what's to come Like I
can see it all for myself and Ican see myself in those
situations.
(11:01):
And that award on the weekend,I've pictured myself winning
that right.
And last year, when I didn'twin it and I was nominated.
I went home and I said to mycoach in an email I said I'm
going to win that award one year.
Like I told him that's what Iwas going to do.
I visioned myself doing it andthen I was like I know I need to
up my game, but I'll work outwhat I need to how to up my game
on the go.
I just know that's I want.
(11:21):
And then what are the actionitems around that?
And so I think it's trying to,I guess, manifest or look ahead
to what's to come.
And last year, in preparationfor this year, I planned my
entire year out on a calendar.
I wrote in things that I hadn'tdone yet but I wanted to do,
and then I set myself towardsthat.
(11:42):
And your plan to begin with isprobably never going to be
perfect and you don't want tospend too long working that out.
I think, like you said, somepeople probably think that they
want to do something and then go.
I don't even really know how todo it, so I'm not going to
bother, right?
I've built my life arounddeciding what I'm going to do
and then starting and going inthat direction, and it almost
(12:03):
never looks the way, uh, thatyou planned it anyway, so just
start going in that direction.
And going in that directionanyway is where is the best part
?
Like the whatever's at the endof it is great and you think
that's often what you're after,but it's, it's, it's whatever
you've done along the way to getthere.
And I really felt that when Idid my half ironman at the start
of this year was the most bestfeeling I've ever had in my life
.
Crossing that line, um.
(12:25):
But then when I look back, I'mlike the entire time training
and committing yourself andgetting your diet right and the
endless hours, that was where Igot more growth than the actual
race itself, uh, and thatprobably sounds not cliche, but
that's like a really commonfeedback in in doing things like
that, and I've felt that now aswell.
So that would be my best advice, I think, um, is try and vision
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it for yourself first, createit, and it's first created up
here and then out in reality man, I, I am a massive believer.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I believe if you can't see it in your mind, it's
going to be very hard for you tocreate in reality, because the
the beauty of visualizing it.
If you can't get it there, youneed to start going to find out
what the missing pieces are andyou get closer to creating that
picture.
Yeah, rather than just going Ican't see it, therefore I can't
have it.
It's like you can have it.
You just got to fill in thosemissing pieces and you've got to
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have that first.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Oh, sorry you go, no, you go.
You've got to have that first,and this is what I was just
thinking on.
Then you've got to have thatfirst experience of making it
work, and then it's rep, you canreplicate it.
And I'm now in a position whereI've repeatedly done it now so
many times that I have no fearin going after the next thing,
because I've stacked enoughevidence for me to know that it
works.
Um.
(13:38):
And so I guess, if it's yourfirst time trying to commit to
something, um, don't make it toobig, don't make it too small,
but just commit and stack theevidence and prove to yourself
that you can do it, and thenreplicate it and replicate it,
and replicate it, and replicateit, and then you can replicate
it at scale.
Um, and start jumping into, youknow, some 10x ideas of god
knows what over time.
Um, which is what I'm startingto now dabble in as well.
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Um is like what's next, what'snext?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
and taking the time to work that out it's cool to
see as well, and as someone whohas been, I guess, a bit of a
fly on the wall watching yougrow over the last couple years,
you're very consistent.
You show up on the call everyweek, like week in, week out, or
if you don't, you you'llmessage me and let me know, but
you're probably one of the onlypeople who brings a game plan
all the time as well, which iswhat we use to track our
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progress, yeah, and the goalsthat you have.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Got it here always yeah yeah, yeah, always got, it,
Always got it.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
It's when you set your goals as well.
I believe they're realisticbecause they're always building
on the next one.
I don't feel like when you'resetting goals, you're not just
pulling random goals out of theair.
You're doing something that'sbuilding on the previous one
towards the next one, and that'swhy sorry, I got something in
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my throat that's why, for me, Ibelieve you've seen such success
, because you know what you want.
So it's like, okay, you spoke amoment ago, watto, about if the
goal seems too big, just breakit down into something a bit
more manageable and make thatthe 12-week goal, because
that'll be that next step orthat block into building the
wall.
You just go block by block orstep by step, and it's a very
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important thing.
Another thing you do really wellis with the questions that you
ask or the feedback that yougive to people.
It's like genuinely sincerequestions that you ask or the
feedback that you give to people.
It's genuinely sincere.
From my own insights, listeningto that.
It's when you are able to givepeople attention in a way that
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they feel valued and heard.
I just can't see you going inany other way than being
successful, because one of themost important parts in business
and in life is how you makepeople feel You've got the gift
of the gab with that and I knowyou've worked on that and you're
an extrovert, but you're verygood at that and you do that
every week on the call, and forme it's not about highlighting
that all the time on the call,but I wish people would go, okay
(15:58):
, who's had a big year this year?
And I would look at yourself orGadi or a couple of other
people and you then go, okay,well, have they been on the call
every week?
Yes, have they completed fourgame plans?
Yes, are they investing inthemselves?
Yes, you invest in the academy.
You've also got the trainer,sorry what are they called again
?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Trainer HQ, trainer HQ.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah, trainer HQ, and you're always investing in
yourself and they're veryimportant things because you
need, almost like the bumperrails and keeping you focused on
where you want to go and theresults that you want to have in
your life.
No, I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I just got a couple of things to say on that, Lockie
.
Just the framework that youprovide, man, it's all there if
you want it and just show upconsistently enough, and that is
what's going to get there.
Like you said, you askedearlier around what do I if you
followed me around for a day?
Well, I feel this out every day, Like I don't miss days.
I take it home with me, I planmy day out, I know what it looks
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like.
I reflect on what I didyesterday and it's really really
easy to do, but it's reallyreally easy to do, but it's also
really really easy not to do.
And you've got to create thediscipline around doing those
really basic things, and theystack up over a period of time.
I just had that thought whileyou were saying that and what
you said earlier around how doyou create success?
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Well, you don't have to doanything too crazy.
To be honest.
In fact, I would be promptingyou to just do the basics really
really well.
Um, and it allows you access todo bigger things.
Uh, in the after a period oftime I agree, and that's what it
is I.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
I find it fascinating that people find consistency
amazing.
When, when you show up andconstantly do what you said you
would do, or you're stillbuilding your business, you're
still training, I'm doing thesame people are like you're
still doing it.
I'm like, well, yeah, that'swhat I said I was going to do.
It doesn't matter if it'sraining or if I don't feel like
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doing it.
When I say I'm going to dosomething, I'm going to do
something, we don't need toovercomplicate it by throwing
excuses in there or feeling likewe don't need to over
complicate it by throwingexcuses in there or feeling like
we don't have the information.
You just start something and dothe thing.
You'll get feedback around.
What do I need to learn?
How can I be better?
You know and the beautifulthing is as well like I was
running in the rain the otherday.
I can't miss runs at the moment.
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It was piercing down, I dude on.
Uh, what day was it?
I had two wet runs in a row Ihad had Friday and Saturday and
my webbing in my toe like fullyripped and I was like I don't
know how the fuck that happenswhen your feet are together,
yeah, but for me it's like Ican't miss that run because I
said I was going to do it and Ialso know that for me right now,
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much like you were saying amoment ago, the celebration is
the run or the end result,whereas the hard work and the
opportunity for growth is whatyou do in the lead up to that,
and people quite often want theend, but they don't want to do
the hard shit to get there.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Matt, I couldn't agree more and, like what you
were just saying, I tick thesame as you.
My word to me is everything,and if I do say I'm going to do
something, I just have to do it.
Like I just have to find a way,uh, and I think that's really,
really important is having yourown word to yourself, um, and,
and like I said that for me,that's just staying true to me.
But also, you know, if I commit, I commit, I'm all in on things
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and 100% I can't half-assanything.
And if I think I'm going tohalf-ass anything, then I'm not
going to commit to it and I justcompletely remove myself from
whatever that is, um, and put mytime, energy and effort into
something that I can, um, and ittakes a little bit, I think, to
work that out about yourself.
Um, and maybe not everyone tickslike that, but, um, yeah, I
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just know that if you, if you dohave that, if you have that
feeling or that, know a desireto do a little bit more, do
something different, then thereprobably is something there to
say go and do it.
And if you're going to do it,you may as well really go and do
it.
Like, don't fuck around, justgo in that direction as hard as
you can and, like you said, theresults are all on the other
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side of that.
But it's often more just uphere, probably, where you're
ticking over on committing in adirection.
But yeah, you don't want tostay there for too long, because
once you take time to decide onthings, you often talk yourself
out of them rather than intothem.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
So, yeah, that's a great point talking yourself out
of things rather than into itand that's a massive one.
What's the biggest challenge?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
you faced this year and how did you respond to it?
Oh, that's a good question.
I'm actually going to say I'mgoing to look at the back end of
last year a little bit as well,and into this year.
So I did a half Ironman thisyear, just over 12 months after
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I actually failed my firsttriathlon.
I don't know if you rememberthat, but I fainted 400 metres
short of the finish line in myfirst triathlon and it would
have been easy then to just go.
You know, I nearly got there,or or you know I'll do another
one maybe sometime.
But I went back to the drawingboard because I failed that,
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because I had no plan, I had anego, around just going all guns
blazing, and how I did thattriathlon was how I do life.
I was just gun-ho.
But I went back to the drawingboard board and it took 12
months um, a large part.
I was training that forprobably eight months because I
played a bit of footy there forfour months in between went back
to the drawing board and saidwell, you know what did I do
(21:30):
wrong last time?
Um, and I'm actually committingto a half ironman this time.
So I've got to do close todouble of everything this time
around, uh, and then execute.
I created a plan and executed aplan around that that was less
ego and more accomplished.
And then executing that on raceday because I'd failed the
first race day it felt like along way back.
But to get over the line andthe reason I fainted the first
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time was dehydration and failedto fuel up correctly on a really
hot day.
And then the second time, aroundaround, there was moments off
the bike where I was starting tocramp in my quads and I was
rushing.
I had these thoughts rushingback of fuck, it's gonna happen
again.
Like, I can't believe this, Ican't like.
I've planned and had to calmmyself down and just try and
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breathe through and relax andwithin you know, five, ten
minutes, the cramps had settledand I found my legs again and
managed to finish off.
And I just can distinctlyremember that point of like, oh
no, it's happening again, I'mgoing to fail again, I'm going
to.
You know, this is going to beso embarrassing, I can't believe
this.
Like, and I had to really tryand calm myself down and
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overcome those thoughts andthankfully I was able to and was
able to cross the line and um,that that moment, crossing the
line for me was just euphoria,because I'd failed so badly 12
months earlier.
To then cross and and hit theline and get that done was just
like it was me overcoming andbeating myself, um, and, and it
was also me making a reallystrong comeback after failing,
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uh, the first time around.
But so it happened in.
It happened in feb this year,so it counts as this year, I
think, but it was probably 12months worth of planning and
getting it right the second timearound to overcome it.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Oh, dude, I'm glad you brought that up.
I still remember when I hit youup to see how you went the
first time.
You're like I fainted man.
I was like I thought you weretaking a piss.
I was about to give some backand then one of the other boys
in the group was like no, what Ifainted.
I was like far out, poorbastard yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I try and not think about it too much now.
I just try and think about theone this year.
But there's good lessons in it,so you've got to acknowledge it
.
I can laugh about it now gostung and uh.
Yeah, it was uh not ideal, butthere was so many lessons in it
wasn't there and I was able togo and rectify that and then
make it happen this year.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
so why weren't you defined by that failure?
I think failure is a veryinteresting thing to look at.
Many people would have had thathappen and they never would
have raced again.
Yeah, what makes you different?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
it's a good question.
Uh, I understand that, uh,failure is inevitable and, uh, I
try and seek discomfort where Ican.
Not to that level again, Idon't think, but, uh, but uh,
I've been through, and the lasttime I jumped on your pod lock,
he was under completelydifferent circumstances.
I lived out a life experiencethat was very challenging in
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ways that is often unimaginable,and was able to come out the
other side and redefine who Iwas and where my life was and
the direction it was going, andthat experience itself was
really truly life-changing.
And there was a heap ofadversity involved in that um
that I was able to to to getthrough.
And now I have this likefeeling of like, uh, not seeking
(24:52):
anything, like trying to findthat out for myself, seeking it
out, um, on my own terms, Iguess, but I understand on a
really deep level what it's liketo find that and get through
that and get through things.
And I get that same sort offeeling after failing something
or coming out the other side andrecreating it.
So I think it's, yeah, a littlebit of that for sure, but, yeah
(25:18):
, I guess it's resilience thatyou build as well, and I often
even with a with a couple of mymates always talk about just
building character and ifsomething's not going well or
something's going to be tough, Iwill always say it builds good
character.
I try and reprogram and redefinewhat tough and challenging
things mean to me and try andseek them out, if anything,
because I know that I'm going tobe a better person and better
(25:39):
for it.
And it's a mindset change thatyou know some people might not
understand but for me that's howI just try and reframe and
reprogram things is well, I'mgoing to be better for this, and
often that is on the other sideof failure, but I'm going to be
.
I'm going to have bettercharacter, more character.
So it's like a mindset shift.
I think that you know isn'teasy to adapt, but at the same
time it can be dumb.
(25:59):
With a bit of programming orreprogramming, I guess, around
what challenges and failuresactually mean to you and how
they're inevitable and how often, if you're finding them
constantly and getting throughthem, you can stack evidence to
actually reprogram and shiftwhat that actually means to you.
Because if someone's facing achallenge, you know they can
often go is this too much?
All right, I'm not going to doit.
Or to someone else that samechallenge is like I'm going to
(26:22):
get over that and through it andgo the other side, and that's
the two differences.
I think in people that actuallyget what they want and achieve
things that they want, ratherthan or don't you know spot on.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
It's definitely a mindset thing and understanding
the lesson that is on the otherside.
We only know what we know andif we knew the things we needed,
we would would have the resultsto accompany that.
Obviously, when you don't havethe results, it's because you
don't understand things.
If everyone were to geteverything right the first time,
there would be no such thing asfailure and everyone would be
wealthy, healthy and happy.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
The reality is if you look around.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
it'd be like the Truman Show You'd wake up and
the same shit would be happeningevery day.
We'd be shitting gold bricks.
But the challenge of that is,if you want to be one of those
one percenters, you have toshift your mindset to the point
where you have a healthyrelationship with failure,
because in order to learn, youmust fail.
(27:21):
And the level that you can fail.
So the level that you getcomfortable failing is the level
that you get comfortablesucceeding in.
So if you want to succeedquickly, you better buckle up,
because you're going to failfast and you're going to fail
hard.
But if you're not comfortablewith that, success may be a
little bit slower, and that'spersonal for each individual.
Success may be a little bitslower, and that's personal for
each individual.
(27:42):
What I've witnessed with youover the last couple of years is
you're just going hard man,like balls to the wall.
What does it look like for you,now that you've spent the last
couple of years getting to knowwho you are and what you want
and what you stand for, to nowhaving this year where you've
been recognized for the workthat you've done?
I still don't believe that abit of recognition changes the
(28:05):
work ethic or who you are.
You've been that person.
Now people are starting to takenotice, which is awesome.
But what does that look likefor you for 2025?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Yeah, that's a really good question because that is
something I've put a little bitof thought into, especially when
we were reflecting Thursday,friday at the conference, then
even again over the weekend, um,because I got that question.
It's like, well, what's next,what's on for 2025?
And I'm gonna have to take alittle bit of time because, like
you said, each year on year forthe last few years, it's been
really clear to me what I'mworking towards um in terms of
(28:38):
goals and business revenue, andpersonally it's been.
I've known what I'm going forand to now feel like I've got a
lot of alignment with that, thedirection next year.
To me it isn't clear yet andand I think that's really,
really cool because it shows methat you know, I've got a lot of
things in place that I wasworking towards and I think it's
(28:58):
going to take a little bit oftime now for me to decide that
and and sit with that, and fornow, it's just going to take a
little bit of time now for me todecide that and sit with that,
and for now it's just going tobe more of the same.
Like you said, a little bit ofrecognition for me is not going
to change anything.
If anything, I've got a level tolive up to now and you know
I've got a reputation to upholdand I'm going to be doing much
(29:24):
of the same.
That's got me to where I am now,and I said you got to do the
basics really, really well.
So not none of that will changeand then I think it'll be clear
in a short amount of timewhat's next and when it comes
time to recognize that and go inthat direction, I'm going to
repeat the evidence that I'vestacked already and going hard
and fast in that direction andworking the rest out along the
way.
Yeah, so there's not one bigthing that I know yet, but I
(29:46):
know I'm just going to keepdoing what I'm doing and have
been doing and take a little bitof time.
As I said, this time last year,I sat down, I planned out 2025
in december, um, on a calendarand everything that I wanted to
do, um, and for me next year, Iwant to do a little bit of
travel.
I'm going to book that in, andI was saying on the weekend as
well doing doing a month inEurope was where I want to go.
(30:10):
For me that's an awesomepersonal achievement to go and
do, and I'm sure I'm going tolearn a lot about myself over
there.
But for me that's a businessgoal, because if I can leave my
business for a month and have itoperate without me, I know I've
got my business to a level thatis higher than I've had it
before, so it's twofold for me,something like that, and that
might end up just being my goalthat I tick off for next year.
(30:30):
I don't know, like I said, Idon't have a really clear thing
that I'm working towards foronce, but I think for me also,
maybe sitting with that and nothaving something to work towards
could be a goal in itself aswell, because I have been, like
you said, just one thing afterthe other, after the after,
after the other.
Maybe sitting in some stillnessfor a month or two before it's
(30:52):
time to connect, to commit tosomething, could be really cool
as well.
Because, like I said to you, ifI'm not really ticked to do
something, I won't commit to itat all, and if I create, create
a goal just for the sake ofcreating a goal, then my chances
at executing and actually doingit and sticking with it are
probably going to be pretty lowanyway, or less than they have
before.
So I think I'm just going tosit with it for a little bit and
(31:13):
I'll plan out next year andreflect on this year.
And when it comes time, you'llbe one of the first to know, of
course, and we'll go in thatdirection.
And when it comes time, you'llbe one of the first to know, of
course, and we'll go in thatdirection.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Can't wait to hear what it is.
I think two things that jumpedout for me was the first one if
you're not motivated to do it,you're not going to set a goal
for the sake of it.
I think that's a very importantthing because when you go back
to evidence that you stack, orconfidence that you build from
completing or moving towardsachieving a goal, Most people
are setting goals that theythink sound sexy or people will
(31:45):
like, but they're not doing itfor intrinsic reasons and they
set themselves up to fail andthey compound poor confidence
and poor results and poorevidence.
The second thing was takingtime to actually think about it.
When you become more successful, I would say and when I say
successful I mean you're gettingruns on the board and evidence
(32:06):
on the board to support whoyou're becoming, in the life
that you're building, you don'thave to make as many goals.
I don't believe, because I'm inthat same boat where my life is
amazing, my health is amazing,my finances are amazing,
everything's great, and Idefinitely wanted to be better,
(32:27):
but I don't have that samehunger.
What I'm, I guess, challengingmyself to do is live life and
earn more in different ways.
The fact that I can take morethan two months off now really
from proper work to focus onrunning around America to me is
the pat on the back that you'vebuilt this business to do what
(32:47):
it does, and like it's humblingto do that, like that's cool and
yeah, maybe I'll experience theissues in January, february,
march, but I would never figurethat out if I didn't take the
risk to do that anyway.
And, much like you said, it's abusiness goal as much as it is
a personal goal and afundraising goal.
It's just like it's allconnected and it's all linked
and it's just like this newversion of who I want to become
(33:13):
and I think, taking time tothink about that, think about
the impact of goals, andsometimes you can just give
yourself a couple of months.
I think when I moved to America, I gave myself probably three
or four months before I actuallyset a hardcore goal again.
I was just like wanting toenjoy myself and look at things,
learn things and experiencethings.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I couldn't agree more .
Everything you just said wasresonating with me so much.
And, you know, the directionthat you're going and what
you're doing, like that inspiresme as well, because you're
showing us what's possible and Ithink that's really really cool
to be able to see someone goand do that and then see that
for yourself as well.
And, like you said, I'mprobably going to take the rest
of December to, you know, reallythink about the next goal and
(33:53):
I'm really keen to start nextyear with a bang like the first,
I think, setting a year like anintention for the year and a
goal.
The start of this year I did 12weeks off alcohol, completely
and especially leading into theevent, and I'll probably do the
same again next year, I think,just to set myself up and get
some real clarity and, you know,take control and do a lot of
(34:16):
thinking and break the cycle ofwhat I'm doing just to learn a
bit more about myself, because Igot so much out of that this
year as well.
So I think you know I canresonate with that that so much.
Take the time if you've got it,and it's a cool, really cool
place to be for me, um, becauseit does feel like I've sort of
just leveled up to this levelnow and I can take the time to
think about um, what's next?
(34:37):
And, like I said, the idea of10xing and going again in a
really big way in a direction.
I need that feeling of of fuck,that's scary, maybe like and
have that self-doubt again andgo through the process of
potentially failing and probablyfailing again and get on the
other side of that and then doit again on another level and
repeating the process.
(34:58):
So, yeah, it's cool to see andwe'll see what comes.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
How do you feel 18-year-old Watto would be
viewing you Like how do you feelhe'd feel about you?
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, I think he would be inspired.
For sure, and that's somecommon feedback.
I get around beinginspirational and still feels
uncomfortable for me to own thatin a lot of ways.
Even saying that just then, I,I don't fully grasp the impact
that I'm having on that levelfor some people, um, but I would
also be the most proud, I think, around my resilience.
(35:37):
Um, and seeing someone be soresilient it gets me going.
Um, I, I think so, I, I can't.
I think if I was 18 to now, likeI've changed so much.
But it's like, it's like weightloss, like you often don't see
the results in the mirror, um,when you're losing weight and
then someone will say to you onetime why you've lost so much
weight and you'll go, oh, like,how good is that?
(35:58):
That's how it is for me as well.
Like, from 18 to now, I've justbeen going through and doing my
thing, going this direction,and then now to think, like the
change then to there.
It's hard to grasp in a lot ofways, but I think, especially
this year, this has been my yearwhere I've turned from a boy to
a man.
I truly believe that I stillthink I had not immaturities,
(36:21):
but I think I've really foundmyself and grown up in a lot of
ways and, like you said, own whoI am and I think some people
don't find that out for so long,sometimes ever but for me that
this year has been lining thesand sort of year, with owning
that and moving into that andbeing able to say that to you.
So yeah, and that's taken 10years from when I was 18.
(36:42):
So I think if I was talking tomy 18 year old self, it would
just be to just say look, it'sall there in front of you.
If you want it, you've just gotto show up and do the basics
and, uh, do them well that's thekey if you want it.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
So, outside of business, what are you working
on?
Like you've said, you've done acouple of halves like what?
Is there anything that you'retraining towards within 2025?
Speaker 2 (37:05):
yeah, really good question.
I've gone, uh, I finished footylast game, um, and I've given
the break body a little bit of abreak off cardio.
I'm about to finish up a12-week strength program.
I've been doing it with mymembers, um, which has been
really cool to go through theirexperience and do all that
together, um, and and feelreally really strong in the body
, strong in the mind.
Um, I'll enter some cardio backin the start of next year and
(37:30):
then build up for footy again,but I guess a physical goal for
me now isn't really on the cards.
I'm studying again at the moment, which has been cool to get
back into and upskill in,because I'm always looking for
ways to be a better trainer andbetter at what I do.
I.
That's really really important,uh.
(37:50):
So I think now for now, likedoing that and pushing my body
in the strength direction.
I've never done that before,like, I've always worked out,
obviously, but I've alwayspaired it up with cardio and
playing footy and tried to dothat.
Yeah, do it all and, uh, at themoment I'm just seeing what I
can do in that direction, um,with my movements and get really
really strong in my foundationsand um, take the time to focus
(38:12):
on that and go through that withmy members.
So, for now, that that's cool,it's been cool to do that and do
it really really well.
Um, so, yeah, that's it for now, but uh, who knows, at the
start of next year somethingmight grab my attention.
But yeah, like I said, goinginto footy season, I normally
just focus on that, just play abit of footy and, um, yeah, for
me, like footy, just it's mything.
(38:34):
I've always done it.
It's it's my, it's somethingthat I love doing, and I want to
play footy for as long as I canwhile my body allows me to,
because you can't, you're a longtime retired and uh, you know
all all those physicalchallenges and a full Ironman is
absolutely on my agenda.
I will do one one day, but Iwant to do it and do it well and
train for 12 months in the leadup and it's just right now.
(38:56):
I don't want to overbite andtry and do too much.
I'll get to that one day, forsure.
But I've already visionedmyself crossing that full
Ironman line, like I can see.
That already started to createthose visions.
Even though I might not do onefor 10 years, I already know
that's on my pipeline.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Oh man, that excites me.
One of the biggest regrets thatI live with is retiring from
rugby too early, so it's awesometo hear you say that you want
to.
You know, play for as long asyou can, because you know I quit
, one because of the culture,but two more so to try and build
a business, and I wish I hadthe head on the shoulders that
you do where you realize you cando all of it.
(39:34):
It's just about managing yourtime and your priorities, and my
body will never be able to goback to doing that.
So I've got the next howevermany years of my life thinking
about, you know, wishing to playthat, but I find you know
there's other competitiveoutlets, so that's fine.
What's the study like, man?
What are you studying again?
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Studying a corrective exercise program essentially.
So it's all self-paced.
It'll probably take me six toeight months, so there's a fair
bit of self-discipline requiredto get back into study mode.
Um, so there's a fair bit ofself-discipline required to get
back into study mode.
Um, at the moment I've justbeen doing two to three one hour
blocks a week and, uh, justblocking everything out, sitting
down and just fitting it inwhere I can um, but essentially
(40:16):
it's correcting people'smovement patterns from either
being sedentary or overuse um,which is which is cool and you
know some stuff I've alreadylearned along the way and go oh
yeah, cool, I know that and youknow, I can see that.
And then they provide aframework to sort of apply and
the direction I see.
Like I see people every day comein with broken movement
patterns, especially aroundsitting.
(40:37):
Like you've worked anine-to-five in front of a desk,
in front of a computer at adesk, and chair your body now,
like you've heard it before,sitting as a new smoking it's,
it's it's really creating someproblems for people in their
everyday life.
So, trying to get on the frontfoot with, with fixing that um,
because I I think there's goingto be more of it to come um and
(40:57):
being able to learn a frameworkand apply that and learn some
new, cool little things.
I think it's going to be reallyapplicable in terms of
upskilling myself as a trainer,um, and it's one of those basics
I've got to do really, reallywell.
I've got to fix people'sproblems, both physically and
between the ears when they cometo the gym.
So, yeah, I saw an opportunityand I see a gap in the market
because I think there's going tobe more of it and it's going to
(41:18):
be more in demand and, yeah,I'm excited to see what comes
from it.
I'm only just started, maybe six, eight weeks ago, but, as I
said, I'm just chipping away atit and finish it sometime next
year and then work out what thatlooks like in a business sense.
Can it be applied to thebusiness?
Can I offer something in termsof programming?
Take people on Automatically inmy PTs.
It's going to be awesome to beable to implement that straight
(41:40):
away and help my guys some moreas well.
So, yeah, different cool.
Getting back into that studymindset I haven't studied for
God knows how long, but yeah,it's finding ways to make it
complement your life I don'twant to be what I'm learning
about and fit there for five,six hours and study.
I'm doing one hour blocks andthen just try to do that two,
three times a week for now.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Dude.
I think you've got it sortedthere, man.
I'm excited to see what happens,and you're continuing to invest
in yourself, both financially,with the coaching and the things
that you do, but also in yourmind, to become a better coach,
and cream rises to the top.
Man, if you want to be one ofthose 1%ers, that's what you
need to do to get ahead and tostand out and to be able to add
(42:26):
more value to more people.
And it just blows my mind thatwe have access to podcasts much
like this, or YouTube, orcourses, coaches, and we can
learn all of these things thatcan literally change our life.
Whether we do it for our ownpersonal use learning about
nutrition, movement patterns,making money, our relationships
or if you're doing it to applyto your business or your career
(42:51):
it's there and available.
Yet people still don't dedicatetime to using the resources
that are available, and it blowsmy mind, but it also inspires
me to see you grabbing life bythe balls and doing those things
so that you can be the bestversion of yourself and, as you
said earlier, create the lifethat you want to live, one that
you wake up jumping out of bedknowing that you've got a bit of
(43:13):
downtime to go for a swim.
You're playing the sports, butyou're also having an impact in
building a business that you'reproud of.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
I couldn't agree more .
We've got more access toinformation um, if you want it,
uh than ever before.
Uh, and, like I said, you'repart of my morning routine.
I get half an hour of a podcastin of some sort first thing in
the morning around health andfitness.
I've got a specific um traineror group of trainers that I
listen to and that's how I startmy day and I think being
intentional with how you startyour day, um, and and what
(43:43):
you're consuming is really,really, really important.
Even here, I've got my values upon the wall.
I see that first thing in themorning every day.
Right now, I can see mycalendar over here, I fill out
the journal every day and so, byproximity, I've created a
system around being inspired andstaying on track, and if you
don't do those things and takecontrol, then you go the other
(44:04):
direction and, unfortunately, aspowerful as and how cool it is
to get access to information,you are often going to be set up
to fail based on algorithms ifthey're going the other way,
because you're going to consumecontent that is just not helpful
at all and consume more of it.
And it comes down to creatingthat system for yourself to be
empowered, and that's what I tryand do, as much as I can, to
(44:27):
try and create someself-accountability as well.
But, yeah, it's all a controlthing to me.
I don't like not being incontrol of myself, and the more
I see what's happening a lot ofpeople they're not in control of
any part of their life.
They're just going through thecycle of life and life's
happening to them and at anypoint it takes a second to make
(44:48):
that decision, to switch.
Um, and I think what you and Iare doing is trying to inspire
more of that and and try andcreate evidence for people that
you can do it.
Uh, and there's nothing specialabout you and I that no one
else can't do.
That's the thing.
Um, it's just around beingaround those people more, and
that's why I show up on the callevery week, because it keeps me
accountable and I'm aroundpeople that are trying to be
(45:08):
better, and you've got to findthose sort of people.
And, along with everything thisyear, one thing I did was I
created new connections withpeople that are like that and I
made that decision to go.
I need to create and get myselfaround more like-minded people,
and that meant letting go ofsome, some people, putting some
people in some differentpositions in my life, and trying
to find people that give meenergy and support me and then
(45:31):
lift each other up and be partof your group.
You know as much as I canbecause, um, you've got to try
and understand that as much asyou can.
Otherwise, you let negativityfill you up, you let the
internet just control whatyou're consuming, and that's the
direction your life will gowell said dude, well said what.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Where can people find you?
You're up in caloundra, butwhere can people one follow you
if they want to work with you?
How does that all work?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
yeah, yeah, really good question.
Uh, yeah, what fit caloundra is?
Uh, is my studio?
Um opened that one two yearsago, so if anyone wants to come
check it out, I'm always inthere, don't worry about that.
If you want to jump in and do asesh, my studio, I'm really,
really proud of what I'vecreated there and love showing
it off.
And, yeah, that's a lifetime'sworth of work that's gone into
(46:21):
that and, like you said, manyfailings.
So even when I walk into thereevery day, I still feel inspired
just walking in there and someof the stories around it.
So, what fit Caloundra, checkout what we're doing?
Yeah, if you want to come inand train meet chat, I'm always
open.
Like you said, lucky, I just Ilove helping people.
I really, really do, and I willalways listen and I know people
(46:41):
appreciate being heard.
I believe empathy is superpower, uh, and I'm empathetic with
everyone that I meet on anylevel.
I'll take the time to chatthings out and, um, yeah, it
gets me going.
I get more I just as much ofhelping someone as what they do
from from my help man.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
I love it what I've made.
It's obviously been superinspiring getting to watch
firsthand, and I've been wantingto have this convo on a public
platform for a long while sincewe did our first one, just
because you've literally justmade such huge improvements in
your quality of life.
And it just goes back to thatquote where you're like the
universe and get the fuck out ofyour way because I'm creating
the life that I want and theconfidence and intensity that
(47:24):
you said that in that episode.
Looking back, I'm like it's nowonder you're in the position
that you're in and there's somany things that I've witnessed
from consistency to filling outthe game plan, to investing in
yourself, to not over committingto things is the reason why I
believe you've become sosuccessful.
And, for anyone listening,you're someone that I value
being around.
(47:44):
I value when we get to havephone calls because, much to
your point before, I want to bearound people who are doing cool
shit and who are inspiring me,because it just helps me
continue to lift my standards.
There would have been no way Icould have gone on this podcast
right now and walked off notfeeling more inspired.
So thank you for that.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
Brother, thank you, and right back at you,
everything you just said.
You're a mentor of mine.
I love everything that you'redoing.
Seeing what you're doing nextyear with the marathons, that
just gets me going, you know.
It makes me want to be betterand you've got to be around
people like that.
You've got to be around peoplelike that as much as you can,
because people that make youwant to be better, yeah, you've
got to seek them out and spendas much time with them as you
(48:25):
can.
And you know, for me, businesscan be a lonely place sometimes.
I'm a one-man band, but youknow I seek out, you know,
people like yourself and mybusiness coach Carlson as well.
I know that you guys are goingto be able to, you know, make me
and lift me up as much aspossible.
So thank you as well, brother,I really appreciate everything
you do and, yeah, you've been abig part of getting to me where
(48:49):
I am today and no doubt,whatever happens over the next
few years, we could be doingthis again in two, three more
years and talking about Godknows what.
Speaker 1 (48:58):
We will be brother Jacob Watson, everyone founder
of what Fit Caloundra.
He was the Entrepreneur of theYear at the Trainer HQ Awards
and someone that I'm inspired inmassive amounts.
Mate, thank you so much foryour time.
As always, do something todayto be better for tomorrow.
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