November 3, 2024 • 46 mins
Discover the transformative power of living intentionally with Sebastian Terry, the inspiring founder of 100 Things, as he shares how bucket lists can lead to profound personal fulfillment. From setting goals to embracing the unexpected, our conversation challenges the often commercialized view of bucket lists and reveals their true potential for personal growth and meaningful connections. Get ready to hear tales of adventure, like crashing the Cannes Film Festival red carpet and surviving on a deserted island, that highlight the joy and discovery found when living life by your own design.
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Lachlan Stuart (00:00):
Goals are the vehicle for individual and
collective change.
Today's guest, sebastian Terry,lives his life by this.
This conversation was veryinspiring and my energy just
went through the roof and I'veeven set myself a bucket list
item which I will be ticking offtomorrow and I'll tell you more
(00:22):
about that.
Or if you follow along on myInstagram, you'll see what I'm
getting up to.
But when I first came acrossSeb on Instagram good old
Instagram works an absolutetreat for finding incredible
people and I reached out,flicked him a message.
I was like mate, I love whatyou're up to.
Your content is inspiring.
I watched your TED Talk.
(00:42):
I've set myself a list and Ifound meaning and purpose
through that and I would loveyou to come on and share your
story with you.
Guys listening and the legendhe is jumped on and said perfect
.
I'm in so very grateful to Sebfor giving up his expertise and
(01:02):
just his life story on this one.
We speak about finding meaningand purpose through setting
goals and building and creatinga list of things that you would
love to experience, have and thelegacy that you want to leave
behind.
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That is enough for me.
Let's dive into today's episodewith Sebastian Terry.
The man that Can Projectpodcast, a podcast empowering
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My name's Lockie Stewart.
Let's get into it.
Seb Terry (03:30):
So I'm 41 and I ride a skateboard and I was skating
to go to work out of a coffeeshop here which is, you know,
the done thing here in VeniceBeach, la thing here in Venice
Beach, la and I slipped up on asandy bit of the path and fell
over which is so humiliating andhumbling in front of this lady
(03:54):
and I felt so stupid.
I was on my back like a turtleand I looked at her.
I didn't know what to say and Ijust said to her are you okay?
And she looked at me weirdlyand said I'm fine, fine, are you
okay?
Like you're the guy on theground.
And and then I I thoughtnothing of it got to the cafe,
limped to the cafe, opened up mylaptop and only half of it
worked and I thought, like thescreen was completely broken and
(04:15):
uh.
So I went to the apple store toget a new, uh, mac, or actually
for them to fix it, and theywere great salesmen.
They said, well, you couldspend700 on this getting fixed,
but it's 2016.
The new Air is here and you'donly have to spend a little bit.
You know that whole thing.
So, yes, today's great qualityof sound and video is brought to
(04:37):
you by an expensive laptop.
Lachlan Stuart (04:38):
What a great mistake.
It's all like it all justhappened for this moment.
Yeah, it did.
You probably don't see it thatway, but I'm like this is
fantastic, Mate, but you'reliving the dream.
I can't remember how I cameacross you, but I came across
you about six months ago andwhat you're doing with your
bucket listing.
And then I watched your TED talkand have been following you and
(05:01):
shooting you random messages,which has been awesome and I've
even looked through your bucketlist and you've done some wild
things, some things that youknow I was like.
I actually have never reallythought about a bucket list.
Seb Terry (05:14):
Yeah.
Lachlan Stuart (05:15):
But during your TED Talk you started talking
about how it gave you purposeand meaning and connection and
all these incredible things, andI was like, well, that's a
space that I'm spending a lot oftime in, but you just really
simplified it and did it in sucha way where it's like you're so
focused on living your bestlife and inspiring others to do
that.
For me, I was like that soundslike exactly where I want to go.
Seb Terry (05:38):
Yeah Well, I really appreciate you reaching out and
for the support and nice words.
It's funny, I think the termbucket list has been so
commercialized over the years,and you know we think about
things to do before we die andyou know our minds go straight
to jumping out of planes orclimbing mountains, which, of
course, are fantastic goals.
But I don't think that isthat's not it.
(05:58):
There's much more to it.
You know, I think a list ofthings is essentially bucket
list, if you want to call it abucket list.
It's a list of priorities inour lives which are important,
and a list if really remindingme and encouraging me to commit
to things that are important tome.
And goals don't have to be justwild and adrenaline-fueled I
(06:35):
think some of them should be, bythe way, but they can very much
be timid and simple, andprofessional goals as well,
goals for other people.
It's amazing, once you startlooking into it, what a list
actually stands for, how didlike.
Lachlan Stuart (06:50):
What sort of set it off for you to start doing
this?
Seb Terry (06:55):
Well, I finished school in Barron Joey Avalon on
Sydney's northern beaches, and Ihad no idea what I wanted to do
.
My career advisor said go touni, get a degree.
So I did, baron joey avalon, onsydney's northern beaches, and
I had no idea what I wanted todo.
My career advisor said go touni, get a degree.
So I did, came out of thatdegree feeling just as lost as I
did at the beginning, but inmore debt.
And then I went backpackingoverseas and whilst overseas I
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got a phone call, uh, from afriend in sydney and he broke
the news to me that one of myclose childhood friends growing
up, a guy called Chris, who I'dgone to school with and played
rugby with and had lots of beerswith Chris, had died, just died
overnight.
It was a shock to the community.
It was, of course, a tragicloss for his family, to all his
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friends.
He just really was an absolutelegend and I think death sparks
reflection, you know, um, andfirst of his life for me and
then of my life, and I rememberjust thinking about his life.
He was 24 years old when he,when he passed, and I remember
thinking if he could do it allagain if he had another 24 years
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, would he change anything?
And I just thought about hislife and his way of being, and I
don't think he would havechanged anything.
He was very comfortable in hisskin.
He did all the things thatgenuinely made him happy,
rightly or wrongly, by anyoneelse's code, he lived a life
that was values driven,essentially.
And then I turned that questionthat hypothetical on myself and
I just wondered, well, if todaywas my last day I was 25 at that
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point, you know, could I lookback and say that I wouldn't
change anything?
Because, you know, in a similarway, I was just living in a very
authentic values-driven life,and it was the first time I'd
ever looked at my life from thatperspective before.
And I realized instantly oh mygosh, I would change all of this
.
And so I decided to take it astep further and go well, what
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would I change?
So I got a piece of paper andpen, and that was the beginning
of a list of things that Ithought would make me smile more
if I actually prioritize them,and onto this paper spilled one
thing, 10 things, 20, 50, 100things, and, yeah, like a
(09:09):
lightning bolt, like that ahamoment that you'll often hear
people refer to.
I remember thinking, well, thisis my opportunity to be happy
because I'm not right now, and Ithought what could be more
important than droppingeverything in my life to pursue
this?
And so that is eventually whathappened.
That was the beginning of mylist.
Lachlan Stuart (09:32):
That's unreal and I love the power of, I guess
, reviewing and checking onwhere you're at within your life
.
Often we're so busy and sofocused on where we're going.
I don't have time to just sitthere for 10 minutes and
meditate or write down what'sgoing on in my head.
But it's that slow down tospeed up approach where you can
gather your thoughts aroundwhat's important and where you
want to go.
Mate, rip into that food.
Don't let me hold you back onthat.
Seb Terry (09:52):
I simply cannot eat a salad whilst we talk.
Come on.
Lachlan Stuart (09:55):
And I'll tell you if you get anything in your
teeth.
Seb Terry (09:58):
All right, I'll have one bite though.
Lachlan Stuart (10:01):
But a lot of people talk about doing this
right.
Many people see people likeyourself or various other people
that they may follow on socialmedia or within their own
communities living incrediblelives, doing what they say
they're going to do.
But then there's also the flipside of the pressure of getting
a good job, having the house,the family, all of that sort of
(10:23):
stuff For you.
What do you believe separatedyou from that to go?
Look, I am going to startticking this list off.
Seb Terry (10:30):
Well, I don't think the two are necessarily mutually
exclusive to each other.
As I said, I think a list, aproper list, a meaningful list
of goals, should reflect everyaspect that you consider
important in your life, and Ithink if people aren't thinking
about what they're doing forwork, there's a big miss.
You know, having a job whichmakes you feel good is crucial.
(10:51):
Of course, you know it mightsound a little bit idealist, but
we have a choice, and so Ithink you know work.
I think having a house is thesame as jumping out of a plane
or, you know, going on a trek orsinging the national anthem on
a sporting field.
You know, I I think that allthings it should be given equal
(11:11):
weight.
Um, so I, of course.
Now, 13 years on from startingthis, by the way, this is
obviously grown into something Inever could have thought of,
and so we, I do a lot ofspeaking and you know I have
books and stuff, and I'msomewhat of a uh, this is going
to sound so obnoxious butsomewhat of an authority in this
world of goal-setting,goal-striving,
(11:31):
community-building, being happy,helping people, whatever.
So the way that we would teachthis, well, the foundation of
this, I should say, is thisthing called a wheel of life,
and if you imagine a bicyclewheel, the spokes give it
structure and allow it to spinand be, you know, function
essentially.
If you then imagine that thatwheel represents your life, the
(11:52):
question I think is reallyimportant, before what's on your
bucket list, is what are yourspokes, what are the core
aspects of your life thatwithout you simply wouldn't be
yourself, you would feel empty.
There's a few ways to get tothat point and I won't bore
everyone now, but if you canidentify your spokes, that is a
starting point.
Now, having done a lot of, wedeveloped a live your list
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program for individuals andorganizations and we found over
two years that there were 12commonly shared spokes.
So there is travel andadventure, romantic love, key
relationships, creativity,volunteering, slash impact, but
there is also professionaldevelopment, emotional wellness.
You know there's a myriad ofthings.
(12:37):
You don't have to have 12.
In fact, we find that there arebetween seven and eight on
average per person.
But yeah, on, there isprofessional goals.
On.
There is family.
On, there is professional goals.
On there is family on.
There is financial security,and so when you talk about
buying houses or, you know,starting a family or having a
job?
Yeah, it's in the same space,it's in the same conversation as
doing a marathon or starting aI don't know a garden.
(13:04):
They're know a garden.
They're the same, they're thesame things.
They all make us feel good.
That's what I have found overtime.
Lachlan Stuart (13:11):
Sorry for rambling here, but that's what I
found is true I found thatwe're all the same.
Seb Terry (13:16):
We all want to feel good.
We all want to feel a sense ofmeaning and purpose in our life.
We want to be doing things thatmatter.
So, whether that is, yeah,buying a house or whether that
is learning to play Sudoku,identify what your goals are and
go for them.
Lachlan Stuart (13:36):
That's awesome.
It's definitely all I guess,leaning upon each other that the
impact that you have by orsorry, the satisfaction of
completing a marathon or jumpingout of a plane then gives you a
certain level of satisfactionand fulfillment.
Then, when you walk into theoffice on Monday, for example,
you're like just did thisawesome stuff, now let's crush
it at work in something that I'mextremely passionate about and
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really enjoying and loving.
So there's a key takeaway there.
For those who aren't aware ofmaybe, what your spokes could be
, head over to your website,which I'll put in the links to
go through that process.
But make sure you don't justlisten to this.
Give yourself 30 minutesminimum I'd say 15 to 30 minutes
(14:18):
to sit down and actually startdoing this stuff.
It will change your life.
I know you've got on the redcarpet.
You've done some wild stuff.
You can actually view your liston the website as well.
What's been one of the mosthilarious stories you've got
from the whole bucket listexperience?
I'm not going to say the bucketlist.
Seb Terry (14:39):
Sorry, oh, mate, I mean honestly a million.
I have a million.
I haven't done all the hundredthings, by the way.
I've done 76.
I've still got 24 to go.
But oh, mate, well, I did standup comedy.
I'd love to think that washilarious.
It was all right.
Oh, dude, I, I, I don't evenknow where to begin with that
(15:01):
question.
I mean, I crashed the redcarpet at the Cannes Film
Festival.
I lived with a tribe in Kenyafor a week, a tribe who had
never seen white people before.
I lived on a deserted island bymyself for a week, surrounded
by sharks.
Lachlan Stuart (15:13):
Every night, what was that deserted island?
Like I did see a little snippetof that, talk me through that
experience.
Seb Terry (15:20):
It was absolutely idyllic and exactly how you
would picture living on adeserted island to be Like.
If you think you know thatquestion, if you took three
things to a desert island, whatwould they be?
I had to consider that.
It was great.
It didn't end up being.
Well, I did take a ukulele, youdid.
Yeah, I wrote a song on therebecause I was there for a week.
So I tried to do somethingdifferent every day.
(15:42):
So day one was about exploringthe island.
Day two was about foraging forthings to make a costume, an
outfit for me.
So I wanted to keep my mindbusy.
Day three was what was daythree?
Oh, send a message in a bottle.
So I bought a bottle of wine.
I drank it.
I drank it on the island.
I had one hell of an evening.
I drank it on the island.
(16:03):
I had one hell of an evening.
And then the next day I then gota.
I brought a notebook and a pen,wrote a message, put it in
there.
I also bought some likeglittery, shiny, reflective gold
paper to throw in the bottle aswell, so it would sort of
shimmer.
And then I put the cork back in, threw this bottle in the water
.
By the way it was in, I was offthe coast of New Caledonia, so
(16:28):
I was like two hours on a veryfast Coast Guard boat.
I think it was about 55kilometers off the coast.
I mean, really, I couldn't seeany other land.
It was phenomenal and I hadimages of.
For those who don't know NewCaledonia, it's sort of like in
between.
Well, it's only three hours offAustralia, right Off of
Brisbane, on the East Coast, andyeah, I had images of it like
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getting to Russia or you know,floating somehow to Japan or you
know, miraculously making it tothe Faroe Islands.
And anyway, on my note, I leftmy email and I said I'd love to
take you out for a beer.
Whoever finds this.
I got an email about a monthlater I think, yeah, and it was
from someone who had found itcaught up on a reef about three
(17:09):
miles from where I had droppedit off.
And unfortunately, I never gotto catch up with that person,
but anyway, so I was just doingdifferent stuff every day on
that Island and it was.
It was incredible.
It took me about 15 minutes towalk around.
You know, it was great.
It was such a good experience.
Lachlan Stuart (17:26):
What's been one of the biggest or most important
things that you've learnt aboutyourself over the last 13 years
, since you know really livingout your values and your purpose
through these incredible, Iguess experiences that you're
deciding for yourself.
Seb Terry (17:47):
I've discovered, with anyone I've spoken to who has
sort of followed their heart,the same thing that they do, and
that is, I'm entirely capableof doing anything I want, and
that's it.
I think.
As humans, unfortunately, wehave this default condition
which I had for 25 years of mylife, which is I'm not good
enough or I couldn't do that, orI was just fraught with, you
(18:10):
know, fear and anxiety at theidea of trying something that I
might fail at, and all I did wastry.
I just finally tried.
I gave myself permission tothink about what I wanted to do
to, you know, to reflect andanalyze how I was doing, and
from that was able to say, well,I'm not going in a great
direction here and I chose to doa couple of things you know 100
(18:33):
.
And everyone's list is different, by the way.
Don't need 100.
You can have one thing, but ifyou just try, if you just focus
on one thing and you try, you'llsurprise yourself.
If you just focus on one thingand you try, you'll surprise
yourself, and whether it's anout and out victory or whether
you even just nudge yourselfslightly further out of your
comfort zone, you realize thatwe all are radically accountable
for what we do in our livesCan't control everything, of
(18:55):
course, but you can respond andif you're willing to take a punt
on yourself, you will realizeah, I can do this, and that's
what I've continually done for13 years.
So I, you know, I you know, Ithink ultimately, yes, I've done
tons of stuff from my list.
It's great and there's somefunny stories in there and what
have you.
But really what I've been ableto do is just sort of uncover or
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get a little bit closer torealizing you know who I am, and
that's the secret.
I think that not that you askedme, but if you were to ask me
what I think the secret tohappiness is my answer.
Whether it's right or wrong, Idon't know, but I believe it to
be true.
My answer is if you're able toget closer to understanding who
you are, and then you canunabashedly just be yourself in
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every single situation you'redoing well and that's it, Mate
that was going to be my nextquestion, Seb.
It was awesome.
Lachlan Stuart (19:50):
It's like you were just picking up my mind,
it's so true, though.
Have you had moments throughoutthat 13 years and I know you've
made, I guess you know you'respeaking and you've got a whole
lifestyle and business andeverything built off the back of
it, but prior to that, did youever have moments where you're
like, oh, maybe I need to goback to the traditional way of
(20:12):
living, get a job and do allthat sort of stuff?
Or, once you got started, didyou just never look back?
Seb Terry (20:18):
Yeah, it's really interesting.
It wasn't for me.
Well, it's really interesting,it wasn't for me.
I never saw it as stepping awayfrom something that was safe.
I just realized the way I hadbeen living wasn't keeping me
happy, so it really wasn't.
Well, I'm just going to put apin in this for a second and
I've got this as an option tocome back.
(20:38):
I genuinely left just wantingto be happy.
I never thought anyone wouldknow about what I was doing.
I never thought I'd be on likea podcast, right.
I never thought I'd have areality show.
I never thought that wouldhappen.
I never thought anyone wouldcare.
And it still actually doesn'tmatter is actually the beautiful
truth of it.
But, yeah, no, I did it becauseI genuinely was curious about
what else was there.
(20:58):
There must be something elsethat fills me with a feeling
that's more um, uplifting thanwhat I currently have.
So I just went for it.
I've never, ever, I meangenuinely I've never thought oh
no, what am I gonna do next?
Oh, I'm gonna have to go back.
I've never thought that and Iand it's kept on going.
Um, you know, I I'm not thesharpest tool in the shed.
(21:21):
I'm I'm not the best lookingbloke out there.
I'm not the most athletic, youknow, like I'm not lucky, I'm
not.
I'm not the best looking blokeout there.
I'm not the most athletic, youknow, like I'm not lucky, I'm
not brave, I'm not.
I just think there is somethingout there for everyone If you're
willing to actually have a goodlook at yourself in the mirror.
And you know it might mean adrastic change, as it was for me
, or it might just be a little1% change, but as long as you
know that's the most importantthing.
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You know the shame of it is,I'll ask a lot of people what's
on your list?
What would you do if you coulddo anything?
If nothing was impossible?
What would you do?
And the majority of the timepeople say I've never really
thought about that and I used tobe like that too.
So a lot of people don't evenknow what it is.
They would rather.
And unfortunately, we live in aworld where so much is just put
before us that if we don'tthink for ourselves, others will
(22:02):
, and you will end up justfollowing the blueprint of life
that someone else expects of you.
In fact, there's a book calledRegrets of the Dying by Bronnie
Ware.
I'm reading that at the moment.
Yeah, oh, how are you enjoyingit?
Lachlan Stuart (22:15):
Love it.
I sent her a message the otherday because it is just yeah,
it's a beautiful book, reallybeautiful book.
Seb Terry (22:22):
Yeah, I sent her a message too, actually.
So she, for anyone who doesn'tknow, she was a palliative care
nurse and she would intervieweveryone right who was coming to
the end of their life and shewould always ask them what's
your biggest regret?
And she basically came up withthe five most common regrets of
the dying and the number one.
Do you know what number one was?
Lachlan Stuart (22:44):
Yeah, I do even have the book somewhere around
here.
But yeah, sorry, carry on.
Seb Terry (22:48):
Well, I think number one was the biggest regret of
the dying, according to BronnieWare was living a life.
I never lived a life true tomyself.
I lived a life others expectedof me, and that's kind of what
I'm alluding to with this.
You know, it certainly was mystory.
I was just doing the thingsthat people wanted me to do my
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career advisor, go and get adegree.
I did All my friends, youshould go backpacking now.
So I did.
I even started a company, justbecause that was kind of
expected.
Lachlan Stuart (23:17):
So I did, and then I thought well, hang on,
what about me?
What do I want to do?
Seb Terry (23:21):
So that's interesting and for those who are
interested, have you got that upnow?
I feel like you've just-.
Lachlan Stuart (23:26):
Yeah, I just Googled it.
Yeah, what are the?
Seb Terry (23:28):
other I don't want this to be a monologue, me
reciting I like it.
Lachlan Stuart (23:34):
Just come up with a book title.
Okay, so the five regrets, orthe top five regrets, regrets
are.
I wish I'd had the courage tolive a life true to myself and
not the life that othersexpected of me.
This next one is what I'm sortof going through the process in
my own life and company at themoment.
I wish I hadn't worked so hard.
(23:58):
I think we live in that hustleculture and for me it's funny.
I was reflecting on my company18 months ago and when I got to
the point that I've been at fora fair while now, I was like,
when I'm doing that, I'm goingto be surfing, I'm going to be
traveling more, I'm going to bedoing all these exceptional
things, and all I've been doingis working more and trying to
get to the next level.
The next level, the next leveland I think to your point, a lot
(24:21):
of that has come off the backof I'm living for other people
and their perception of me andwhat I should be doing next.
Rather than slowing down andgoing, life's fucking good, what
else do you want to do to sortof support your, I guess,
success or drive in andthroughout your career?
The third one.
(24:41):
I wish I'd had the courage toexpress my feelings.
It's a big one.
I wish I'd stayed.
So this is where I'm up to.
I haven't read this chapter yet.
I wish I had stayed in touchwith my friends and I wish that
I had let myself be happier.
Seb Terry (24:58):
Yeah, and the remarkable thing for me is, as
you read those, every single oneof those is just a choice.
You know it's not well.
With a bit of luck happens,those things will fall into
place.
Everyone's a choice.
If you listen to the language,I wish I'd let myself be happier
.
That is a choice, you know.
To go down that path.
(25:19):
I wish I'd worked less or lesshard.
It's an absolute choice.
On that point, by the way, Ithink like that can sometimes
misinterpreted Like I justshouldn't work.
I again, I do believe if you,if you enjoy what you do, you I
mean not to sound too cliche,but you never work a day in your
life.
Maybe that's not quite true,but but but I think having
meaning in your work, in yourprofessional life, is important.
(25:40):
I wish I'd had the courage, asyou said to begin with, to live
a life true to myself.
It's a choice.
You just go for it.
That you don't have to wait foranyone to suggest anything or
do anything for you, that's achoice.
I wish I'd express myself more,my feelings more.
That's something that's reallycommon with men.
I think we tend not to womentoo, but I think men,
(26:02):
specifically the percentage ofmen who don't express their
feelings is far higher thanwomen.
Um, uh, what was the other one?
Oh, stay in touch with friendsagain, the all choices, and so
you know the thing you can learnfrom that as well.
Hey, if these are the five mostcommon regrets of the dying,
take, take notes.
This is how you avoid it andyou, you those things by.
(26:23):
You can make a list right nowof right, who are my closest
three friends.
I'm going to organize a beerwith all of them, or whatever.
For me, it goes all back tosimple, goal-setting practice.
Lachlan Stuart (26:37):
Yeah, and actually setting the goal and
intention.
It's very, very, even on myiPhone, the beautiful thing
about iPhones you can set yourfavorites list and intention.
It's very, very.
You know, even on my iPhone,the beautiful thing about
iPhones you can set yourfavorites list and stuff.
So I have my top eight matesthat I'll make sure I message
and call every week and now webook all of these things.
And so I got married lastOctober but we did a week long
festival.
It was amazing.
(26:58):
And then everyone at thefestivals, at the wedding sorry,
it's like, oh, we should dothis every year.
If we all put in x amount andjust do this, I'm like fucking
oath.
But the chance of it actuallyhappening is very low because
life gets in the way, unlessit's like a wedding or a funeral
.
We don't necessarily prioritizecatch-ups because once again
we're so busy.
But if we can slow down andthink forward you know, if I
(27:21):
want to catch up with my goodmates every quarter or whatever
let's book something now ratherthan just getting to march and
going.
Oh, we should try and catch upand everyone's already booked
doing certain other things yeah,completely, and and it, yeah,
it's all choices.
Seb Terry (27:36):
I mean I, I, I don't know it's it, I sound silly
saying this, but it I just feelit just needs to be absorbed by
anyone.
You know, it's just all.
A decision, take an action step.
You know that is as simple aspicking up your phone, texting
one of your besties.
You know you tell me and say,hey, let's catch up.
(27:57):
That takes three seconds.
Yet we tend to put that off.
And I'm not perfect.
I still do this stuff, I stillhave procrastination, et cetera.
Lachlan Stuart (28:05):
But yeah, it's empowering if you suddenly
realize oh, it's all up to mehow great.
I agree.
What was something that sprungto mind there for me was
thinking about oh sorry, movingto, I guess taking action was
one thing that you said it'simportant.
(28:26):
Just looking at that actionstep, you've got a big American
flag behind you there.
Obviously, you grew up in thenorthern beaches of Australia.
Seb Terry (28:33):
Yeah.
Lachlan Stuart (28:34):
What took you over to America and why?
Seb Terry (28:37):
Well, a TV show actually.
So I was doing talks over hereand so I fly out from Australia,
from Sydney, and then I gave atalk one year at this incredible
summit called PTOW P-T-T-O-W.
It was a marketing summit and Igot on stage and I gave my
keynote and then at the end aproducer came up to me and said
(29:00):
oh hey, we want to make a showabout what you're up to.
And I said, oh, that's cool.
And I was very flase, I sort ofdidn't follow up with it.
And then the next year I gotinvited back to speak again at
the same summit and the guy hisname is Keith was there still
and he said where'd you go?
What happened?
And I said oh, I didn't thinkyou were serious.
(29:22):
And he's like I am, let's talk.
So we ended up signing a deal todo a TV show, a reality show.
And he said you know, what doyou want it to be about?
And I said well, I think Ishould help people with their
goals.
And so we did the shows 26episodes based all out of
America.
So I came over here to filmthat.
It was an incredible experience.
And then I realized that soAmerica has so much opportunity
(29:49):
and the market is a lot biggerthan Australia.
For anyone really who'sinterested in kind of expanding
what they're doing that's atleast what I thought we're doing
a lot of corporate wellnessslash staff development
(30:09):
programming out here, whichcertainly lends itself to being,
you know, in the US again,because it's just a lot bigger
right.
Lachlan Stuart (30:16):
Yeah.
Seb Terry (30:16):
Yeah, and I have another few ideas that I've sort
of voiced before aroundconnecting people to engage in
acts of kindness, and I thinkthis could be a really good
place to do that.
So you know, and also not toforget, I just love adventure
and I love living life, and itjust felt like an exciting throw
(30:39):
of the dice to be here.
So I'm five years into beingbased in LA.
Lachlan Stuart (30:43):
I love it.
I think it's so cool to hearyou say that, because when we're
exchanging voice notes, you'reprobably one of the only people
to voice note me back.
I always voice note and peoplejust text back.
I'm like come on, let me hearwhat you sound like A bit creepy
Because yeah, we're in theprocess of moving to Nashville
going through that whole visaprocess and everything like that
(31:05):
, which is exciting.
But there was a bit ofresistance originally around,
like but then when we were overin Nashville, just a bit of
resistance originally around,like, oh, but then when we were
over in nashville just a coupleof months ago and my wife heads
back over in two, three weeks,it's just like the, the
opportunity there and the waypeople supported us when we were
there and introduced us tocertain people.
I was just like.
This is incredible, like as anindividual, I'm going to get to
(31:29):
experience so much.
I'm going to be able to learnfrom incredible people such as
yourself.
I look up to and aspire to havesimilar things and achieve
similar things.
Australia is always going to behere for me.
I just take a little adventureand see what comes of it.
Seb Terry (31:49):
Yeah, I the.
There's a guy called ryancampbell who you should have on
your podcast.
He's um, he was the youngestperson to ever circumnavigate
the globe in a plane by himselfand I think he was 16 and he
he's australian, um, and then hehad a plane crash and became a
paraplegic, then relearned howto walk and now is a flight
(32:12):
instructor and he does kit.
I know from from keynoting,from speaking, uh, but he's
based out of nashville so I'dlove to connect you uh, that
would be amazing over there yeah, really good guy yeah well,
it'll be good.
Lachlan Stuart (32:23):
Uh, I'll uh hit you up as well for a beer or a
coffee when I head to.
La as well, which will beamazing.
Seb Terry (32:30):
Yeah.
Lachlan Stuart (32:31):
Wanted to as well ask a question, because I'm
always curious about peoplewho've had impacts on people
like yourself, who are doingamazing things.
I'd love to hear, I guess, twoto three people who've been the
most influential on you and howtheir influence has impacted you
.
Seb Terry (32:49):
Yeah, it's such a great question.
I always feel kind of likeundergunned for this question,
because I always just think thatI just sort of did this, you
know, and I feel you know, I didkind of thing.
It wasn't because of anything orany well, it wasn't because of
(33:11):
anyone's advice in the firstplace.
But with that said, I'mrealizing that's probably less
true.
You know, I think you know,like even you know my dad, for
example.
He used to have this saying itbetter to live one day as a wolf
than a thousand as a sheep.
And I was like, oh, that's cool.
I remember picking that up at ayoung age.
And then I also remember my mumshowing me a letter, uh, that
(33:34):
she had kept my dad, my dad'sbritish, and he had written to
the um english prime minister atthe time back in I don't, I
don't know when, the 60s orsomething, saying I like my
dad's sort of like unathleticand you know he's like an
engineer, and he wrote a lettersaying hey, I want to propose to
be the first solo uh roweracross the atlantic, uh, from uh
(33:57):
england, from southampton tonew york, and the the british
prime minister wrote back to himand said we're not interested
in sponsoring or being involvedbecause someone's already done
that from new york back to uhsouthampton in the other
direction.
And I was was just like what,what dad did that.
So I think it was definitelysome kind of of course influence
(34:18):
there.
I've always been reallyinspired, just you know, in the
same way most of us are, I'msure, by hearing these
incredible journeys that peopletake on.
Not necessarily, you know, ofcourse, like you think of, like
Muhammad Ali, or you know,richard Branson, or you know, of
course, like you think of like.
Muhammad Ali, or you knowRichard Branson or you know
anyone, but I just like the, the, I don't know I get really
inspired by just everyday peoplewho might not have done the
(34:40):
greatest thing in the planet Ihaven't cured cancer but they,
they've taken on a personalchallenge themselves and I just
love to hear that.
I I'm really like, I'm veryinspired by people who are
passionate about what they do,incredibly inspired.
I love it when I talk to peopleand it could be anybody in the
street who is just pursuingtheir passion and you can just
see it's full of life aboutwhatever it is they're doing.
(35:02):
And for me, it's those littlethings along the way, like those
interactions and those people,that really inspire me.
Uh yeah, cause I think there's aripple effect to this.
There's a ripple effect to toto passion.
If you speak to someone who'sreally passionate about what
they do, you can't help but feelinspired and you walk away
going, well, what do I want tobe passionate about?
(35:23):
Um, and then you know, ofcourse you're like, well, how
can I help them?
So I, and so I really think inthat sense, passion inspires
passion, and you don't have toget it from a famous person, you
can get it from anyone.
Lachlan Stuart (35:35):
I love that outlook and when I originally
started this podcast, I didn'tgo looking for celebrities or
famous people, et cetera,because, very similar approach,
every person in my life hassomething that they're an expert
in or something that they, whenyou get them talking, it's like
they'll never stop and you,yeah, feed off that energy and I
(35:59):
think it's very important for,especially in today's society,
look, definitely have yourpeople you aspire to be, like,
maybe on social platforms ordoing amazing things, but look
in your own local network andlike, champion those people as
well.
Like, if you can get them andcontinue to remind them to talk
about and express what they'repassionate about, it only
(36:21):
influences and, as you said, hasthat ripple effect through your
community which, once again,it's going to come back to you
as well when you may be having aflat day or, yeah, like that,
because we don't always get timeto speak to cricketers or those
people that we want, but wehave the opportunity to speak to
those closest to us.
Seb Terry (36:42):
I've never said this before publicly.
By the way, it's nothingprofound, but I watched this
documentary last night called Ithink it was called, the
Greatest Race on Earth maybeit's a Netflix doco on the time
that Australia won back theAmerica's Cup, the sailing cup,
from the Americans.
I think they had won it for 132years straight and I do.
(37:04):
You know this?
Lachlan Stuart (37:05):
No, I've not heard about it.
Seb Terry (37:07):
So there's a sailing race which to this day, is
turned into that.
You know the super fast yachtswith hydrofoils and what have
you.
But back in the day, I think itstarted in the 1800s and
America had started it out ofNewport, rhode Island, on the
east coast of the US, and theywon against Australia.
Every year they won 132.
(37:28):
I think it's every year, butthey won 132 times.
Year they won 132, I think it'severy year, but they, they won
132 times.
So basically, the documentaryfollows the story of how
australia won it back.
I was going to say ragtag bunchof guys.
That's not true.
They're actually, you know,very smart.
Some were very skilled sailors,but there was a certain spirit
about these australians I thinkit might have been 12, 15 of
them who made up this crew, whodesigned this new keel.
(37:51):
They were very innovative.
They thought outside the box.
They had that real Aussie likemongrel.
You know, I was so inspiredwatching this documentary about
what these guys did.
It was a best of seven series.
The Americans tried to sabotagetheir boat.
They tried to get them thrownout.
They created stories becauseAustralia had won I think we had
won the first race 1-0 and theywere.
(38:14):
The Americans were scared.
And then the Americans cameback and suddenly it was 3-1 and
all they needed to do was winone more, to win the series.
And Australia through beingAustralians because we are that
cattle dog, you know, we are the.
We are the rich red earth thatis Australia.
We are the like, the rats ofTobruk.
We are the rich red earth thatis Australia.
We are the rats of Tobruk.
We have that mongrel in ourpsyche that I don't think
(38:35):
everyone has and I think that'ssomething for those Australians
listening.
I hope this resonates, and maybeI sound like a crazy person,
but I feel we have that as adefault, that extra gear where
we can go, you know what,against all odds.
I don't care if I'm theunderdog, I don't care if this
looks very unlikely, I'm youknow what, against all odds, I
don't care if I'm the underdog,I don't care if this looks very
unlikely, I'm gonna have a crackand more often times than not,
when we as people have a crack,we get there, um, and learn
(38:59):
something along the way andmaybe pivot in another direction
.
But anyway, um, that is a greatdocumentary and of course, the
end of that story is it wasthree all in the end that it was
the last race to win, theseventh race of this series and
Australia won.
We were behind the whole raceand then we zipped past them in
the end because we'reAustralians and, oh my God, it
(39:20):
was good.
So, yeah, I get inspired bythings like that.
Lachlan Stuart (39:24):
I'm going to watch that, for sure.
Seb Terry (39:25):
Yeah, it's really good, really good story.
Lachlan Stuart (39:27):
Yeah, and the way you told it, mate, I was
like this is perfect.
This is a a question for myself.
Seb Terry (39:40):
Have you speak so well?
Have you ever like done?
Lachlan Stuart (39:41):
any training around it, or have you just?
Seb Terry (39:42):
oh, no, well, thanks so much.
What do you mean?
Do I come across like I'mspeaking well?
Is that how you mean?
Yeah?
Lachlan Stuart (39:45):
like, yeah, very engaging.
The only reason why I say thisis I'm doing vocal coaching at
the moment because I tend tomumble and speak to a whole heap
of things.
So every time I hear people whoI'm like this is super engaging
.
I'm like are you just a naturalat it?
Seb Terry (40:02):
Oh, again, this sounds so obnoxious.
I've never had training, so Iguess it's come naturally.
What I have discovered is thatI do enjoy storytelling.
I do really enjoy relaying apoint of view or you know, a
thought or a story, but it's gotbetter over the years.
I've been very lucky.
I've been speaking on stagesfor 11 years, so you know you
(40:25):
have to get the repetition in,as with anything, to get better
at it.
So I've definitely got better,but I haven't had any training,
although I repetition, and, aswith anything, to get better at
it.
So I've definitely got better,but I I haven't had any training
, although I I bumped into well,not although.
Side note, I had a conversationwith a guy called vin yang the
other day.
Lachlan Stuart (40:40):
I don't know have you heard of vin yang no,
I've never I.
Seb Terry (40:42):
So this almost goes back to your other question of
who inspires me.
Um, I speak to tons of peoplein this world of, you know,
quote unquote motivationalspeaking and, um, you know,
they're all just normal people,which is great, which is,
thankfully.
That's why I'm here.
I'm normal.
But I spoke to this guy, vin.
He's an australian magician whois an incredible, a formidable
speaker on stage and he talksabout the power of the, of the
(41:05):
voice and the throat and howit's your tool for relaying and
communication, and I did a bitof research on him.
I got in touch with him justbecause I was so impressed, and
he does a lot of this voicetraining and speaking training.
For anyone who's out therelistening or if you're even
interested, you should hit himup.
He is an incredible, incredibleorator.
But I thank you for saying thatI'm all right too.
(41:28):
It's nice.
Lachlan Stuart (41:30):
No, I'm just curious because I'm always
looking to see what people aredoing to improve certain things
and obviously, as a podcasterand you're a speaker like our
voice is extremely important andI want to use it to, you know,
be more engaging and moreinfluential with how I tell
story and what I talk about.
So you're very good at that.
So I was just curious, which isepic.
(41:53):
A final one if you could beremembered and I have an idea or
an assumption of what this maybe, but if you could be
remembered for one thing, whatwould it be?
Seb Terry (42:07):
Well, this is going to sound very controversial.
Lachlan Stuart (42:08):
I don't care.
Seb Terry (42:11):
Yeah, it's none of my business.
I don't worry about that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, if I had,hopefully something positive,
you know, which I think might bethe case.
But yeah, I don't know, I don'treally worry.
I mean in line with, of course,like I have a great, deeply
rooted desire to help andsupport other people be the best
(42:33):
version of themselves.
And you know, I've sort ofdedicated and crafted my life in
a way, which is that that'swhat I do, you know, whether I'm
speaking, or my book or thisreality show or documentary or
whatever these things are that Ido.
The point of it, the absolutepoint, is to just get people
along for this incredible ridethat every one of us should be
(42:56):
having.
And so I suppose, if I wasn'there and I had to be remembered,
hopefully it would be.
Whatever the specifics of itwould be, hopefully it would be
something that would catalyze abit of motivation or action in a
positive way for people.
Lachlan Stuart (43:12):
That would be it Awesome.
And where can people you knowfind out about where you're
speaking next or follow your TVshow and all of those sorts of
things?
Seb Terry (43:23):
You can go to SebastianTerrycom, which is my
speaking site.
You know, we, yeah, or100thingscom.
Yeah, or 100 thingscom, 100thingscom.
Uh, if anyone is interested inkind of taking on that journey
of you know, actually looking toput a list together and
learning some tools of how to dothat properly and then how to
(43:43):
action, that we have, um, this,an eight-step process called the
live your list process.
Uh, if you know, for anylistener of yours, I'm very, if
anyone wants to write to me andthey're interested, I'll give
you it at half price.
It's only a hundred bucks tostart with, but yeah, I mean
yeah, if anyone wants to, let meknow Instagram Seb100things
(44:04):
yeah.
Lachlan Stuart (44:05):
I'll put all of those links in the description
below for everyone.
But, seb, thanks so much formaking the time.
It's been a pleasure and I lookforward to it.
Oh, one thing I was going toshare.
I was, after I watched the TEDTalk, going back to when you
said you asked people what's onyour list and most people say I
haven't thought about it.
(44:26):
That was me as well.
I would not thought of thingsoutside of work.
I was like what's somethingthat could be a little bit
naughty for me and like outsideof my comfort zone.
For me it was.
I'm flying down to melbournemidweek to hit up the wave park,
because I, you know, travel forwork and all of that, or I'll
go on a monday or friday make ita long weekend.
(44:47):
But I was like, if I go midweek, that really, you know, ruins
the flow of how I run my lifeand I'm purely going down to
surf at the wave park, get a fewsessions in and flying back.
So that's one thing that'shappening in the next couple of
weeks.
Seb Terry (44:59):
Oh, amazing Is that at Urban?
Lachlan Stuart (45:00):
Yeah, at Urban.
Seb Terry (45:02):
Oh, that's great, that is fantastic.
Good on you, mate.
It must be cold over thereright now, though, right, it's
freezing, mate.
That's why my hair's allfrizzled, because I, as I was
walking back from my lastmeeting, it was stormy, it was
just bucketing down.
Oh no, mate, I I surfed, uh, Isurfed urban, the one in
melbourne, uh, in winter.
(45:22):
What, uh, no, I tell a lie.
I surfed the same technology,the wave garden.
I surfed it in bristol, england, in winter, and I was gonna,
yeah, and it was.
It was just ridiculous.
I couldn't feel my feet, Icouldn't take off, I couldn't
stand up towards the end of it,which was disappointing.
But you'll have a ball, itwon't be as cold as that I got
that right?
Lachlan Stuart (45:39):
I hope not.
I'll wear some booties ifneeded.
I'll just put the booties andthe hood on.
Seb Terry (45:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Goals are the vehicle for individual and
collective change.
Today's guest, sebastian Terry,lives his life by this.
This conversation was veryinspiring and my energy just
went through the roof and I'veeven set myself a bucket list
item which I will be ticking offtomorrow and I'll tell you more
(00:22):
about that.
Or if you follow along on myInstagram, you'll see what I'm
getting up to.
But when I first came acrossSeb on Instagram good old
Instagram works an absolutetreat for finding incredible
people and I reached out,flicked him a message.
I was like mate, I love whatyou're up to.
Your content is inspiring.
I watched your TED Talk.
(00:42):
I've set myself a list and Ifound meaning and purpose
through that and I would loveyou to come on and share your
story with you.
Guys listening and the legendhe is jumped on and said perfect
.
I'm in so very grateful to Sebfor giving up his expertise and
(01:02):
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We speak about finding meaningand purpose through setting
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Let's get into it.
Seb Terry (03:30):
So I'm 41 and I ride a skateboard and I was skating
to go to work out of a coffeeshop here which is, you know,
the done thing here in VeniceBeach, la thing here in Venice
Beach, la and I slipped up on asandy bit of the path and fell
over which is so humiliating andhumbling in front of this lady
(03:54):
and I felt so stupid.
I was on my back like a turtleand I looked at her.
I didn't know what to say and Ijust said to her are you okay?
And she looked at me weirdlyand said I'm fine, fine, are you
okay?
Like you're the guy on theground.
And and then I I thoughtnothing of it got to the cafe,
limped to the cafe, opened up mylaptop and only half of it
worked and I thought, like thescreen was completely broken and
(04:15):
uh.
So I went to the apple store toget a new, uh, mac, or actually
for them to fix it, and theywere great salesmen.
They said, well, you couldspend700 on this getting fixed,
but it's 2016.
The new Air is here and you'donly have to spend a little bit.
You know that whole thing.
So, yes, today's great qualityof sound and video is brought to
(04:37):
you by an expensive laptop.
Lachlan Stuart (04:38):
What a great mistake.
It's all like it all justhappened for this moment.
Yeah, it did.
You probably don't see it thatway, but I'm like this is
fantastic, Mate, but you'reliving the dream.
I can't remember how I cameacross you, but I came across
you about six months ago andwhat you're doing with your
bucket listing.
And then I watched your TED talkand have been following you and
(05:01):
shooting you random messages,which has been awesome and I've
even looked through your bucketlist and you've done some wild
things, some things that youknow I was like.
I actually have never reallythought about a bucket list.
Seb Terry (05:14):
Yeah.
Lachlan Stuart (05:15):
But during your TED Talk you started talking
about how it gave you purposeand meaning and connection and
all these incredible things, andI was like, well, that's a
space that I'm spending a lot oftime in, but you just really
simplified it and did it in sucha way where it's like you're so
focused on living your bestlife and inspiring others to do
that.
For me, I was like that soundslike exactly where I want to go.
Seb Terry (05:38):
Yeah Well, I really appreciate you reaching out and
for the support and nice words.
It's funny, I think the termbucket list has been so
commercialized over the years,and you know we think about
things to do before we die andyou know our minds go straight
to jumping out of planes orclimbing mountains, which, of
course, are fantastic goals.
But I don't think that isthat's not it.
(05:58):
There's much more to it.
You know, I think a list ofthings is essentially bucket
list, if you want to call it abucket list.
It's a list of priorities inour lives which are important,
and a list if really remindingme and encouraging me to commit
to things that are important tome.
And goals don't have to be justwild and adrenaline-fueled I
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think some of them should be, bythe way, but they can very much
be timid and simple, andprofessional goals as well,
goals for other people.
It's amazing, once you startlooking into it, what a list
actually stands for, how didlike.
Lachlan Stuart (06:50):
What sort of set it off for you to start doing
this?
Seb Terry (06:55):
Well, I finished school in Barron Joey Avalon on
Sydney's northern beaches, and Ihad no idea what I wanted to do
.
My career advisor said go touni, get a degree.
So I did, baron joey avalon, onsydney's northern beaches, and
I had no idea what I wanted todo.
My career advisor said go touni, get a degree.
So I did, came out of thatdegree feeling just as lost as I
did at the beginning, but inmore debt.
And then I went backpackingoverseas and whilst overseas I
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got a phone call, uh, from afriend in sydney and he broke
the news to me that one of myclose childhood friends growing
up, a guy called Chris, who I'dgone to school with and played
rugby with and had lots of beerswith Chris, had died, just died
overnight.
It was a shock to the community.
It was, of course, a tragicloss for his family, to all his
(07:41):
friends.
He just really was an absolutelegend and I think death sparks
reflection, you know, um, andfirst of his life for me and
then of my life, and I rememberjust thinking about his life.
He was 24 years old when he,when he passed, and I remember
thinking if he could do it allagain if he had another 24 years
(08:03):
, would he change anything?
And I just thought about hislife and his way of being, and I
don't think he would havechanged anything.
He was very comfortable in hisskin.
He did all the things thatgenuinely made him happy,
rightly or wrongly, by anyoneelse's code, he lived a life
that was values driven,essentially.
And then I turned that questionthat hypothetical on myself and
I just wondered, well, if todaywas my last day I was 25 at that
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point, you know, could I lookback and say that I wouldn't
change anything?
Because, you know, in a similarway, I was just living in a very
authentic values-driven life,and it was the first time I'd
ever looked at my life from thatperspective before.
And I realized instantly oh mygosh, I would change all of this
.
And so I decided to take it astep further and go well, what
(08:48):
would I change?
So I got a piece of paper andpen, and that was the beginning
of a list of things that Ithought would make me smile more
if I actually prioritize them,and onto this paper spilled one
thing, 10 things, 20, 50, 100things, and, yeah, like a
(09:09):
lightning bolt, like that ahamoment that you'll often hear
people refer to.
I remember thinking, well, thisis my opportunity to be happy
because I'm not right now, and Ithought what could be more
important than droppingeverything in my life to pursue
this?
And so that is eventually whathappened.
That was the beginning of mylist.
Lachlan Stuart (09:32):
That's unreal and I love the power of, I guess
, reviewing and checking onwhere you're at within your life
.
Often we're so busy and sofocused on where we're going.
I don't have time to just sitthere for 10 minutes and
meditate or write down what'sgoing on in my head.
But it's that slow down tospeed up approach where you can
gather your thoughts aroundwhat's important and where you
want to go.
Mate, rip into that food.
Don't let me hold you back onthat.
Seb Terry (09:52):
I simply cannot eat a salad whilst we talk.
Come on.
Lachlan Stuart (09:55):
And I'll tell you if you get anything in your
teeth.
Seb Terry (09:58):
All right, I'll have one bite though.
Lachlan Stuart (10:01):
But a lot of people talk about doing this
right.
Many people see people likeyourself or various other people
that they may follow on socialmedia or within their own
communities living incrediblelives, doing what they say
they're going to do.
But then there's also the flipside of the pressure of getting
a good job, having the house,the family, all of that sort of
(10:23):
stuff For you.
What do you believe separatedyou from that to go?
Look, I am going to startticking this list off.
Seb Terry (10:30):
Well, I don't think the two are necessarily mutually
exclusive to each other.
As I said, I think a list, aproper list, a meaningful list
of goals, should reflect everyaspect that you consider
important in your life, and Ithink if people aren't thinking
about what they're doing forwork, there's a big miss.
You know, having a job whichmakes you feel good is crucial.
(10:51):
Of course, you know it mightsound a little bit idealist, but
we have a choice, and so Ithink you know work.
I think having a house is thesame as jumping out of a plane
or, you know, going on a trek orsinging the national anthem on
a sporting field.
You know, I I think that allthings it should be given equal
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weight.
Um, so I, of course.
Now, 13 years on from startingthis, by the way, this is
obviously grown into something Inever could have thought of,
and so we, I do a lot ofspeaking and you know I have
books and stuff, and I'msomewhat of a uh, this is going
to sound so obnoxious butsomewhat of an authority in this
world of goal-setting,goal-striving,
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community-building, being happy,helping people, whatever.
So the way that we would teachthis, well, the foundation of
this, I should say, is thisthing called a wheel of life,
and if you imagine a bicyclewheel, the spokes give it
structure and allow it to spinand be, you know, function
essentially.
If you then imagine that thatwheel represents your life, the
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question I think is reallyimportant, before what's on your
bucket list, is what are yourspokes, what are the core
aspects of your life thatwithout you simply wouldn't be
yourself, you would feel empty.
There's a few ways to get tothat point and I won't bore
everyone now, but if you canidentify your spokes, that is a
starting point.
Now, having done a lot of, wedeveloped a live your list
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program for individuals andorganizations and we found over
two years that there were 12commonly shared spokes.
So there is travel andadventure, romantic love, key
relationships, creativity,volunteering, slash impact, but
there is also professionaldevelopment, emotional wellness.
You know there's a myriad ofthings.
(12:37):
You don't have to have 12.
In fact, we find that there arebetween seven and eight on
average per person.
But yeah, on, there isprofessional goals.
On.
There is family.
On, there is professional goals.
On there is family on.
There is financial security,and so when you talk about
buying houses or, you know,starting a family or having a
job?
Yeah, it's in the same space,it's in the same conversation as
doing a marathon or starting aI don't know a garden.
(13:04):
They're know a garden.
They're the same, they're thesame things.
They all make us feel good.
That's what I have found overtime.
Lachlan Stuart (13:11):
Sorry for rambling here, but that's what I
found is true I found thatwe're all the same.
Seb Terry (13:16):
We all want to feel good.
We all want to feel a sense ofmeaning and purpose in our life.
We want to be doing things thatmatter.
So, whether that is, yeah,buying a house or whether that
is learning to play Sudoku,identify what your goals are and
go for them.
Lachlan Stuart (13:36):
That's awesome.
It's definitely all I guess,leaning upon each other that the
impact that you have by orsorry, the satisfaction of
completing a marathon or jumpingout of a plane then gives you a
certain level of satisfactionand fulfillment.
Then, when you walk into theoffice on Monday, for example,
you're like just did thisawesome stuff, now let's crush
it at work in something that I'mextremely passionate about and
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really enjoying and loving.
So there's a key takeaway there.
For those who aren't aware ofmaybe, what your spokes could be
, head over to your website,which I'll put in the links to
go through that process.
But make sure you don't justlisten to this.
Give yourself 30 minutesminimum I'd say 15 to 30 minutes
(14:18):
to sit down and actually startdoing this stuff.
It will change your life.
I know you've got on the redcarpet.
You've done some wild stuff.
You can actually view your liston the website as well.
What's been one of the mosthilarious stories you've got
from the whole bucket listexperience?
I'm not going to say the bucketlist.
Seb Terry (14:39):
Sorry, oh, mate, I mean honestly a million.
I have a million.
I haven't done all the hundredthings, by the way.
I've done 76.
I've still got 24 to go.
But oh, mate, well, I did standup comedy.
I'd love to think that washilarious.
It was all right.
Oh, dude, I, I, I don't evenknow where to begin with that
(15:01):
question.
I mean, I crashed the redcarpet at the Cannes Film
Festival.
I lived with a tribe in Kenyafor a week, a tribe who had
never seen white people before.
I lived on a deserted island bymyself for a week, surrounded
by sharks.
Lachlan Stuart (15:13):
Every night, what was that deserted island?
Like I did see a little snippetof that, talk me through that
experience.
Seb Terry (15:20):
It was absolutely idyllic and exactly how you
would picture living on adeserted island to be Like.
If you think you know thatquestion, if you took three
things to a desert island, whatwould they be?
I had to consider that.
It was great.
It didn't end up being.
Well, I did take a ukulele, youdid.
Yeah, I wrote a song on therebecause I was there for a week.
So I tried to do somethingdifferent every day.
(15:42):
So day one was about exploringthe island.
Day two was about foraging forthings to make a costume, an
outfit for me.
So I wanted to keep my mindbusy.
Day three was what was daythree?
Oh, send a message in a bottle.
So I bought a bottle of wine.
I drank it.
I drank it on the island.
I had one hell of an evening.
I drank it on the island.
(16:03):
I had one hell of an evening.
And then the next day I then gota.
I brought a notebook and a pen,wrote a message, put it in
there.
I also bought some likeglittery, shiny, reflective gold
paper to throw in the bottle aswell, so it would sort of
shimmer.
And then I put the cork back in, threw this bottle in the water
.
By the way it was in, I was offthe coast of New Caledonia, so
(16:28):
I was like two hours on a veryfast Coast Guard boat.
I think it was about 55kilometers off the coast.
I mean, really, I couldn't seeany other land.
It was phenomenal and I hadimages of.
For those who don't know NewCaledonia, it's sort of like in
between.
Well, it's only three hours offAustralia, right Off of
Brisbane, on the East Coast, andyeah, I had images of it like
(16:49):
getting to Russia or you know,floating somehow to Japan or you
know, miraculously making it tothe Faroe Islands.
And anyway, on my note, I leftmy email and I said I'd love to
take you out for a beer.
Whoever finds this.
I got an email about a monthlater I think, yeah, and it was
from someone who had found itcaught up on a reef about three
(17:09):
miles from where I had droppedit off.
And unfortunately, I never gotto catch up with that person,
but anyway, so I was just doingdifferent stuff every day on
that Island and it was.
It was incredible.
It took me about 15 minutes towalk around.
You know, it was great.
It was such a good experience.
Lachlan Stuart (17:26):
What's been one of the biggest or most important
things that you've learnt aboutyourself over the last 13 years
, since you know really livingout your values and your purpose
through these incredible, Iguess experiences that you're
deciding for yourself.
Seb Terry (17:47):
I've discovered, with anyone I've spoken to who has
sort of followed their heart,the same thing that they do, and
that is, I'm entirely capableof doing anything I want, and
that's it.
I think.
As humans, unfortunately, wehave this default condition
which I had for 25 years of mylife, which is I'm not good
enough or I couldn't do that, orI was just fraught with, you
(18:10):
know, fear and anxiety at theidea of trying something that I
might fail at, and all I did wastry.
I just finally tried.
I gave myself permission tothink about what I wanted to do
to, you know, to reflect andanalyze how I was doing, and
from that was able to say, well,I'm not going in a great
direction here and I chose to doa couple of things you know 100
(18:33):
.
And everyone's list is different, by the way.
Don't need 100.
You can have one thing, but ifyou just try, if you just focus
on one thing and you try, you'llsurprise yourself.
If you just focus on one thingand you try, you'll surprise
yourself, and whether it's anout and out victory or whether
you even just nudge yourselfslightly further out of your
comfort zone, you realize thatwe all are radically accountable
for what we do in our livesCan't control everything, of
(18:55):
course, but you can respond andif you're willing to take a punt
on yourself, you will realizeah, I can do this, and that's
what I've continually done for13 years.
So I, you know, I you know, Ithink ultimately, yes, I've done
tons of stuff from my list.
It's great and there's somefunny stories in there and what
have you.
But really what I've been ableto do is just sort of uncover or
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get a little bit closer torealizing you know who I am, and
that's the secret.
I think that not that you askedme, but if you were to ask me
what I think the secret tohappiness is my answer.
Whether it's right or wrong, Idon't know, but I believe it to
be true.
My answer is if you're able toget closer to understanding who
you are, and then you canunabashedly just be yourself in
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every single situation you'redoing well and that's it, Mate
that was going to be my nextquestion, Seb.
It was awesome.
Lachlan Stuart (19:50):
It's like you were just picking up my mind,
it's so true, though.
Have you had moments throughoutthat 13 years and I know you've
made, I guess you know you'respeaking and you've got a whole
lifestyle and business andeverything built off the back of
it, but prior to that, did youever have moments where you're
like, oh, maybe I need to goback to the traditional way of
(20:12):
living, get a job and do allthat sort of stuff?
Or, once you got started, didyou just never look back?
Seb Terry (20:18):
Yeah, it's really interesting.
It wasn't for me.
Well, it's really interesting,it wasn't for me.
I never saw it as stepping awayfrom something that was safe.
I just realized the way I hadbeen living wasn't keeping me
happy, so it really wasn't.
Well, I'm just going to put apin in this for a second and
I've got this as an option tocome back.
(20:38):
I genuinely left just wantingto be happy.
I never thought anyone wouldknow about what I was doing.
I never thought I'd be on likea podcast, right.
I never thought I'd have areality show.
I never thought that wouldhappen.
I never thought anyone wouldcare.
And it still actually doesn'tmatter is actually the beautiful
truth of it.
But, yeah, no, I did it becauseI genuinely was curious about
what else was there.
(20:58):
There must be something elsethat fills me with a feeling
that's more um, uplifting thanwhat I currently have.
So I just went for it.
I've never, ever, I meangenuinely I've never thought oh
no, what am I gonna do next?
Oh, I'm gonna have to go back.
I've never thought that and Iand it's kept on going.
Um, you know, I I'm not thesharpest tool in the shed.
(21:21):
I'm I'm not the best lookingbloke out there.
I'm not the most athletic, youknow, like I'm not lucky, I'm
not.
I'm not the best looking blokeout there.
I'm not the most athletic, youknow, like I'm not lucky, I'm
not brave, I'm not.
I just think there is somethingout there for everyone If you're
willing to actually have a goodlook at yourself in the mirror.
And you know it might mean adrastic change, as it was for me
, or it might just be a little1% change, but as long as you
know that's the most importantthing.
(21:42):
You know the shame of it is,I'll ask a lot of people what's
on your list?
What would you do if you coulddo anything?
If nothing was impossible?
What would you do?
And the majority of the timepeople say I've never really
thought about that and I used tobe like that too.
So a lot of people don't evenknow what it is.
They would rather.
And unfortunately, we live in aworld where so much is just put
before us that if we don'tthink for ourselves, others will
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, and you will end up justfollowing the blueprint of life
that someone else expects of you.
In fact, there's a book calledRegrets of the Dying by Bronnie
Ware.
I'm reading that at the moment.
Yeah, oh, how are you enjoyingit?
Lachlan Stuart (22:15):
Love it.
I sent her a message the otherday because it is just yeah,
it's a beautiful book, reallybeautiful book.
Seb Terry (22:22):
Yeah, I sent her a message too, actually.
So she, for anyone who doesn'tknow, she was a palliative care
nurse and she would intervieweveryone right who was coming to
the end of their life and shewould always ask them what's
your biggest regret?
And she basically came up withthe five most common regrets of
the dying and the number one.
Do you know what number one was?
Lachlan Stuart (22:44):
Yeah, I do even have the book somewhere around
here.
But yeah, sorry, carry on.
Seb Terry (22:48):
Well, I think number one was the biggest regret of
the dying, according to BronnieWare was living a life.
I never lived a life true tomyself.
I lived a life others expectedof me, and that's kind of what
I'm alluding to with this.
You know, it certainly was mystory.
I was just doing the thingsthat people wanted me to do my
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career advisor, go and get adegree.
I did All my friends, youshould go backpacking now.
So I did.
I even started a company, justbecause that was kind of
expected.
Lachlan Stuart (23:17):
So I did, and then I thought well, hang on,
what about me?
What do I want to do?
Seb Terry (23:21):
So that's interesting and for those who are
interested, have you got that upnow?
I feel like you've just-.
Lachlan Stuart (23:26):
Yeah, I just Googled it.
Yeah, what are the?
Seb Terry (23:28):
other I don't want this to be a monologue, me
reciting I like it.
Lachlan Stuart (23:34):
Just come up with a book title.
Okay, so the five regrets, orthe top five regrets, regrets
are.
I wish I'd had the courage tolive a life true to myself and
not the life that othersexpected of me.
This next one is what I'm sortof going through the process in
my own life and company at themoment.
I wish I hadn't worked so hard.
(23:58):
I think we live in that hustleculture and for me it's funny.
I was reflecting on my company18 months ago and when I got to
the point that I've been at fora fair while now, I was like,
when I'm doing that, I'm goingto be surfing, I'm going to be
traveling more, I'm going to bedoing all these exceptional
things, and all I've been doingis working more and trying to
get to the next level.
The next level, the next leveland I think to your point, a lot
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of that has come off the backof I'm living for other people
and their perception of me andwhat I should be doing next.
Rather than slowing down andgoing, life's fucking good, what
else do you want to do to sortof support your, I guess,
success or drive in andthroughout your career?
The third one.
(24:41):
I wish I'd had the courage toexpress my feelings.
It's a big one.
I wish I'd stayed.
So this is where I'm up to.
I haven't read this chapter yet.
I wish I had stayed in touchwith my friends and I wish that
I had let myself be happier.
Seb Terry (24:58):
Yeah, and the remarkable thing for me is, as
you read those, every single oneof those is just a choice.
You know it's not well.
With a bit of luck happens,those things will fall into
place.
Everyone's a choice.
If you listen to the language,I wish I'd let myself be happier
.
That is a choice, you know.
To go down that path.
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I wish I'd worked less or lesshard.
It's an absolute choice.
On that point, by the way, Ithink like that can sometimes
misinterpreted Like I justshouldn't work.
I again, I do believe if you,if you enjoy what you do, you I
mean not to sound too cliche,but you never work a day in your
life.
Maybe that's not quite true,but but but I think having
meaning in your work, in yourprofessional life, is important.
(25:40):
I wish I'd had the courage, asyou said to begin with, to live
a life true to myself.
It's a choice.
You just go for it.
That you don't have to wait foranyone to suggest anything or
do anything for you, that's achoice.
I wish I'd express myself more,my feelings more.
That's something that's reallycommon with men.
I think we tend not to womentoo, but I think men,
(26:02):
specifically the percentage ofmen who don't express their
feelings is far higher thanwomen.
Um, uh, what was the other one?
Oh, stay in touch with friendsagain, the all choices, and so
you know the thing you can learnfrom that as well.
Hey, if these are the five mostcommon regrets of the dying,
take, take notes.
This is how you avoid it andyou, you those things by.
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You can make a list right nowof right, who are my closest
three friends.
I'm going to organize a beerwith all of them, or whatever.
For me, it goes all back tosimple, goal-setting practice.
Lachlan Stuart (26:37):
Yeah, and actually setting the goal and
intention.
It's very, very, even on myiPhone, the beautiful thing
about iPhones you can set yourfavorites list and intention.
It's very, very.
You know, even on my iPhone,the beautiful thing about
iPhones you can set yourfavorites list and stuff.
So I have my top eight matesthat I'll make sure I message
and call every week and now webook all of these things.
And so I got married lastOctober but we did a week long
festival.
It was amazing.
(26:58):
And then everyone at thefestivals, at the wedding sorry,
it's like, oh, we should dothis every year.
If we all put in x amount andjust do this, I'm like fucking
oath.
But the chance of it actuallyhappening is very low because
life gets in the way, unlessit's like a wedding or a funeral
.
We don't necessarily prioritizecatch-ups because once again
we're so busy.
But if we can slow down andthink forward you know, if I
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want to catch up with my goodmates every quarter or whatever
let's book something now ratherthan just getting to march and
going.
Oh, we should try and catch upand everyone's already booked
doing certain other things yeah,completely, and and it, yeah,
it's all choices.
Seb Terry (27:36):
I mean I, I, I don't know it's it, I sound silly
saying this, but it I just feelit just needs to be absorbed by
anyone.
You know, it's just all.
A decision, take an action step.
You know that is as simple aspicking up your phone, texting
one of your besties.
You know you tell me and say,hey, let's catch up.
(27:57):
That takes three seconds.
Yet we tend to put that off.
And I'm not perfect.
I still do this stuff, I stillhave procrastination, et cetera.
Lachlan Stuart (28:05):
But yeah, it's empowering if you suddenly
realize oh, it's all up to mehow great.
I agree.
What was something that sprungto mind there for me was
thinking about oh sorry, movingto, I guess taking action was
one thing that you said it'simportant.
(28:26):
Just looking at that actionstep, you've got a big American
flag behind you there.
Obviously, you grew up in thenorthern beaches of Australia.
Seb Terry (28:33):
Yeah.
Lachlan Stuart (28:34):
What took you over to America and why?
Seb Terry (28:37):
Well, a TV show actually.
So I was doing talks over hereand so I fly out from Australia,
from Sydney, and then I gave atalk one year at this incredible
summit called PTOW P-T-T-O-W.
It was a marketing summit and Igot on stage and I gave my
keynote and then at the end aproducer came up to me and said
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oh hey, we want to make a showabout what you're up to.
And I said, oh, that's cool.
And I was very flase, I sort ofdidn't follow up with it.
And then the next year I gotinvited back to speak again at
the same summit and the guy hisname is Keith was there still
and he said where'd you go?
What happened?
And I said oh, I didn't thinkyou were serious.
(29:22):
And he's like I am, let's talk.
So we ended up signing a deal todo a TV show, a reality show.
And he said you know, what doyou want it to be about?
And I said well, I think Ishould help people with their
goals.
And so we did the shows 26episodes based all out of
America.
So I came over here to filmthat.
It was an incredible experience.
And then I realized that soAmerica has so much opportunity
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and the market is a lot biggerthan Australia.
For anyone really who'sinterested in kind of expanding
what they're doing that's atleast what I thought we're doing
a lot of corporate wellnessslash staff development
(30:09):
programming out here, whichcertainly lends itself to being,
you know, in the US again,because it's just a lot bigger
right.
Lachlan Stuart (30:16):
Yeah.
Seb Terry (30:16):
Yeah, and I have another few ideas that I've sort
of voiced before aroundconnecting people to engage in
acts of kindness, and I thinkthis could be a really good
place to do that.
So you know, and also not toforget, I just love adventure
and I love living life, and itjust felt like an exciting throw
(30:39):
of the dice to be here.
So I'm five years into beingbased in LA.
Lachlan Stuart (30:43):
I love it.
I think it's so cool to hearyou say that, because when we're
exchanging voice notes, you'reprobably one of the only people
to voice note me back.
I always voice note and peoplejust text back.
I'm like come on, let me hearwhat you sound like A bit creepy
Because yeah, we're in theprocess of moving to Nashville
going through that whole visaprocess and everything like that
(31:05):
, which is exciting.
But there was a bit ofresistance originally around,
like but then when we were overin Nashville, just a bit of
resistance originally around,like, oh, but then when we were
over in nashville just a coupleof months ago and my wife heads
back over in two, three weeks,it's just like the, the
opportunity there and the waypeople supported us when we were
there and introduced us tocertain people.
I was just like.
This is incredible, like as anindividual, I'm going to get to
(31:29):
experience so much.
I'm going to be able to learnfrom incredible people such as
yourself.
I look up to and aspire to havesimilar things and achieve
similar things.
Australia is always going to behere for me.
I just take a little adventureand see what comes of it.
Seb Terry (31:49):
Yeah, I the.
There's a guy called ryancampbell who you should have on
your podcast.
He's um, he was the youngestperson to ever circumnavigate
the globe in a plane by himselfand I think he was 16 and he
he's australian, um, and then hehad a plane crash and became a
paraplegic, then relearned howto walk and now is a flight
(32:12):
instructor and he does kit.
I know from from keynoting,from speaking, uh, but he's
based out of nashville so I'dlove to connect you uh, that
would be amazing over there yeah, really good guy yeah well,
it'll be good.
Lachlan Stuart (32:23):
Uh, I'll uh hit you up as well for a beer or a
coffee when I head to.
La as well, which will beamazing.
Seb Terry (32:30):
Yeah.
Lachlan Stuart (32:31):
Wanted to as well ask a question, because I'm
always curious about peoplewho've had impacts on people
like yourself, who are doingamazing things.
I'd love to hear, I guess, twoto three people who've been the
most influential on you and howtheir influence has impacted you
.
Seb Terry (32:49):
Yeah, it's such a great question.
I always feel kind of likeundergunned for this question,
because I always just think thatI just sort of did this, you
know, and I feel you know, I didkind of thing.
It wasn't because of anything orany well, it wasn't because of
(33:11):
anyone's advice in the firstplace.
But with that said, I'mrealizing that's probably less
true.
You know, I think you know,like even you know my dad, for
example.
He used to have this saying itbetter to live one day as a wolf
than a thousand as a sheep.
And I was like, oh, that's cool.
I remember picking that up at ayoung age.
And then I also remember my mumshowing me a letter, uh, that
(33:34):
she had kept my dad, my dad'sbritish, and he had written to
the um english prime minister atthe time back in I don't, I
don't know when, the 60s orsomething, saying I like my
dad's sort of like unathleticand you know he's like an
engineer, and he wrote a lettersaying hey, I want to propose to
be the first solo uh roweracross the atlantic, uh, from uh
(33:57):
england, from southampton tonew york, and the the british
prime minister wrote back to himand said we're not interested
in sponsoring or being involvedbecause someone's already done
that from new york back to uhsouthampton in the other
direction.
And I was was just like what,what dad did that.
So I think it was definitelysome kind of of course influence
(34:18):
there.
I've always been reallyinspired, just you know, in the
same way most of us are, I'msure, by hearing these
incredible journeys that peopletake on.
Not necessarily, you know, ofcourse, like you think of, like
Muhammad Ali, or you know,richard Branson, or you know, of
course, like you think of like.
Muhammad Ali, or you knowRichard Branson or you know
anyone, but I just like the, the, I don't know I get really
inspired by just everyday peoplewho might not have done the
(34:40):
greatest thing in the planet Ihaven't cured cancer but they,
they've taken on a personalchallenge themselves and I just
love to hear that.
I I'm really like, I'm veryinspired by people who are
passionate about what they do,incredibly inspired.
I love it when I talk to peopleand it could be anybody in the
street who is just pursuingtheir passion and you can just
see it's full of life aboutwhatever it is they're doing.
(35:02):
And for me, it's those littlethings along the way, like those
interactions and those people,that really inspire me.
Uh yeah, cause I think there's aripple effect to this.
There's a ripple effect to toto passion.
If you speak to someone who'sreally passionate about what
they do, you can't help but feelinspired and you walk away
going, well, what do I want tobe passionate about?
(35:23):
Um, and then you know, ofcourse you're like, well, how
can I help them?
So I, and so I really think inthat sense, passion inspires
passion, and you don't have toget it from a famous person, you
can get it from anyone.
Lachlan Stuart (35:35):
I love that outlook and when I originally
started this podcast, I didn'tgo looking for celebrities or
famous people, et cetera,because, very similar approach,
every person in my life hassomething that they're an expert
in or something that they, whenyou get them talking, it's like
they'll never stop and you,yeah, feed off that energy and I
(35:59):
think it's very important for,especially in today's society,
look, definitely have yourpeople you aspire to be, like,
maybe on social platforms ordoing amazing things, but look
in your own local network andlike, champion those people as
well.
Like, if you can get them andcontinue to remind them to talk
about and express what they'repassionate about, it only
(36:21):
influences and, as you said, hasthat ripple effect through your
community which, once again,it's going to come back to you
as well when you may be having aflat day or, yeah, like that,
because we don't always get timeto speak to cricketers or those
people that we want, but wehave the opportunity to speak to
those closest to us.
Seb Terry (36:42):
I've never said this before publicly.
By the way, it's nothingprofound, but I watched this
documentary last night called Ithink it was called, the
Greatest Race on Earth maybeit's a Netflix doco on the time
that Australia won back theAmerica's Cup, the sailing cup,
from the Americans.
I think they had won it for 132years straight and I do.
(37:04):
You know this?
Lachlan Stuart (37:05):
No, I've not heard about it.
Seb Terry (37:07):
So there's a sailing race which to this day, is
turned into that.
You know the super fast yachtswith hydrofoils and what have
you.
But back in the day, I think itstarted in the 1800s and
America had started it out ofNewport, rhode Island, on the
east coast of the US, and theywon against Australia.
Every year they won 132.
(37:28):
I think it's every year, butthey won 132 times.
Year they won 132, I think it'severy year, but they, they won
132 times.
So basically, the documentaryfollows the story of how
australia won it back.
I was going to say ragtag bunchof guys.
That's not true.
They're actually, you know,very smart.
Some were very skilled sailors,but there was a certain spirit
about these australians I thinkit might have been 12, 15 of
them who made up this crew, whodesigned this new keel.
(37:51):
They were very innovative.
They thought outside the box.
They had that real Aussie likemongrel.
You know, I was so inspiredwatching this documentary about
what these guys did.
It was a best of seven series.
The Americans tried to sabotagetheir boat.
They tried to get them thrownout.
They created stories becauseAustralia had won I think we had
won the first race 1-0 and theywere.
(38:14):
The Americans were scared.
And then the Americans cameback and suddenly it was 3-1 and
all they needed to do was winone more, to win the series.
And Australia through beingAustralians because we are that
cattle dog, you know, we are the.
We are the rich red earth thatis Australia.
We are the like, the rats ofTobruk.
We are the rich red earth thatis Australia.
We are the rats of Tobruk.
We have that mongrel in ourpsyche that I don't think
(38:35):
everyone has and I think that'ssomething for those Australians
listening.
I hope this resonates, and maybeI sound like a crazy person,
but I feel we have that as adefault, that extra gear where
we can go, you know what,against all odds.
I don't care if I'm theunderdog, I don't care if this
looks very unlikely, I'm youknow what, against all odds, I
don't care if I'm the underdog,I don't care if this looks very
unlikely, I'm gonna have a crackand more often times than not,
when we as people have a crack,we get there, um, and learn
(38:59):
something along the way andmaybe pivot in another direction
.
But anyway, um, that is a greatdocumentary and of course, the
end of that story is it wasthree all in the end that it was
the last race to win, theseventh race of this series and
Australia won.
We were behind the whole raceand then we zipped past them in
the end because we'reAustralians and, oh my God, it
(39:20):
was good.
So, yeah, I get inspired bythings like that.
Lachlan Stuart (39:24):
I'm going to watch that, for sure.
Seb Terry (39:25):
Yeah, it's really good, really good story.
Lachlan Stuart (39:27):
Yeah, and the way you told it, mate, I was
like this is perfect.
This is a a question for myself.
Seb Terry (39:40):
Have you speak so well?
Have you ever like done?
Lachlan Stuart (39:41):
any training around it, or have you just?
Seb Terry (39:42):
oh, no, well, thanks so much.
What do you mean?
Do I come across like I'mspeaking well?
Is that how you mean?
Yeah?
Lachlan Stuart (39:45):
like, yeah, very engaging.
The only reason why I say thisis I'm doing vocal coaching at
the moment because I tend tomumble and speak to a whole heap
of things.
So every time I hear people whoI'm like this is super engaging
.
I'm like are you just a naturalat it?
Seb Terry (40:02):
Oh, again, this sounds so obnoxious.
I've never had training, so Iguess it's come naturally.
What I have discovered is thatI do enjoy storytelling.
I do really enjoy relaying apoint of view or you know, a
thought or a story, but it's gotbetter over the years.
I've been very lucky.
I've been speaking on stagesfor 11 years, so you know you
(40:25):
have to get the repetition in,as with anything, to get better
at it.
So I've definitely got better,but I haven't had any training,
although I repetition, and, aswith anything, to get better at
it.
So I've definitely got better,but I I haven't had any training
, although I I bumped into well,not although.
Side note, I had a conversationwith a guy called vin yang the
other day.
Lachlan Stuart (40:40):
I don't know have you heard of vin yang no,
I've never I.
Seb Terry (40:42):
So this almost goes back to your other question of
who inspires me.
Um, I speak to tons of peoplein this world of, you know,
quote unquote motivationalspeaking and, um, you know,
they're all just normal people,which is great, which is,
thankfully.
That's why I'm here.
I'm normal.
But I spoke to this guy, vin.
He's an australian magician whois an incredible, a formidable
speaker on stage and he talksabout the power of the, of the
(41:05):
voice and the throat and howit's your tool for relaying and
communication, and I did a bitof research on him.
I got in touch with him justbecause I was so impressed, and
he does a lot of this voicetraining and speaking training.
For anyone who's out therelistening or if you're even
interested, you should hit himup.
He is an incredible, incredibleorator.
But I thank you for saying thatI'm all right too.
(41:28):
It's nice.
Lachlan Stuart (41:30):
No, I'm just curious because I'm always
looking to see what people aredoing to improve certain things
and obviously, as a podcasterand you're a speaker like our
voice is extremely important andI want to use it to, you know,
be more engaging and moreinfluential with how I tell
story and what I talk about.
So you're very good at that.
So I was just curious, which isepic.
(41:53):
A final one if you could beremembered and I have an idea or
an assumption of what this maybe, but if you could be
remembered for one thing, whatwould it be?
Seb Terry (42:07):
Well, this is going to sound very controversial.
Lachlan Stuart (42:08):
I don't care.
Seb Terry (42:11):
Yeah, it's none of my business.
I don't worry about that.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, if I had,hopefully something positive,
you know, which I think might bethe case.
But yeah, I don't know, I don'treally worry.
I mean in line with, of course,like I have a great, deeply
rooted desire to help andsupport other people be the best
(42:33):
version of themselves.
And you know, I've sort ofdedicated and crafted my life in
a way, which is that that'swhat I do, you know, whether I'm
speaking, or my book or thisreality show or documentary or
whatever these things are that Ido.
The point of it, the absolutepoint, is to just get people
along for this incredible ridethat every one of us should be
(42:56):
having.
And so I suppose, if I wasn'there and I had to be remembered,
hopefully it would be.
Whatever the specifics of itwould be, hopefully it would be
something that would catalyze abit of motivation or action in a
positive way for people.
Lachlan Stuart (43:12):
That would be it Awesome.
And where can people you knowfind out about where you're
speaking next or follow your TVshow and all of those sorts of
things?
Seb Terry (43:23):
You can go to SebastianTerrycom, which is my
speaking site.
You know, we, yeah, or100thingscom.
Yeah, or 100 thingscom, 100thingscom.
Uh, if anyone is interested inkind of taking on that journey
of you know, actually looking toput a list together and
learning some tools of how to dothat properly and then how to
(43:43):
action, that we have, um, this,an eight-step process called the
live your list process.
Uh, if you know, for anylistener of yours, I'm very, if
anyone wants to write to me andthey're interested, I'll give
you it at half price.
It's only a hundred bucks tostart with, but yeah, I mean
yeah, if anyone wants to, let meknow Instagram Seb100things
(44:04):
yeah.
Lachlan Stuart (44:05):
I'll put all of those links in the description
below for everyone.
But, seb, thanks so much formaking the time.
It's been a pleasure and I lookforward to it.
Oh, one thing I was going toshare.
I was, after I watched the TEDTalk, going back to when you
said you asked people what's onyour list and most people say I
haven't thought about it.
(44:26):
That was me as well.
I would not thought of thingsoutside of work.
I was like what's somethingthat could be a little bit
naughty for me and like outsideof my comfort zone.
For me it was.
I'm flying down to melbournemidweek to hit up the wave park,
because I, you know, travel forwork and all of that, or I'll
go on a monday or friday make ita long weekend.
(44:47):
But I was like, if I go midweek, that really, you know, ruins
the flow of how I run my lifeand I'm purely going down to
surf at the wave park, get a fewsessions in and flying back.
So that's one thing that'shappening in the next couple of
weeks.
Seb Terry (44:59):
Oh, amazing Is that at Urban?
Lachlan Stuart (45:00):
Yeah, at Urban.
Seb Terry (45:02):
Oh, that's great, that is fantastic.
Good on you, mate.
It must be cold over thereright now, though, right, it's
freezing, mate.
That's why my hair's allfrizzled, because I, as I was
walking back from my lastmeeting, it was stormy, it was
just bucketing down.
Oh no, mate, I I surfed, uh, Isurfed urban, the one in
melbourne, uh, in winter.
(45:22):
What, uh, no, I tell a lie.
I surfed the same technology,the wave garden.
I surfed it in bristol, england, in winter, and I was gonna,
yeah, and it was.
It was just ridiculous.
I couldn't feel my feet, Icouldn't take off, I couldn't
stand up towards the end of it,which was disappointing.
But you'll have a ball, itwon't be as cold as that I got
that right?
Lachlan Stuart (45:39):
I hope not.
I'll wear some booties ifneeded.
I'll just put the booties andthe hood on.
Seb Terry (45:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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