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Tim Franklin became the second faster human to run around the world. Starting out in Australia he hit 4 other continents and ran all terrains.

Tim is a genuinely funny bloke and someone who has inspired me personally

Mentioned On Today's Show:
🀝 His dads last words to him
🀝 What it takes to run around the world
🀝 Why he wants to get the world moving

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Lachlan Stuart (00:00):
Welcome back to the man that Can with Lachie
Stuart Today.
I'm very excited about thisguest.
It's been one I've beenfollowing for a very bloody long
time, and now I've beenfortunate to get you into the
homemade studio.
Tim runs the world.
Tim Franklin, how are you, mate?

Tim Franklin (00:15):
Thanks for coming on the show.
Thanks for having me, lachie.
Now it's good to finally meetface-to-face.
Like we were talking and Ithink we communicated over
Instagram, then messages, thenwe spoke on the phone.
Well, that was pretty scary,wasn't it, and now we're meeting
face-to-face, so it's good tobe here.
It's the evolution of ourfriendships, isn't it?

Lachlan Stuart (00:32):
Yeah, in 2024, yeah, the dating market.
But mate running the world.
When I first heard about it Ididn't believe it and I did not
understand it.
But you've done it.
I think you're one of four, orso I'm the eighth person, eighth
person in the world to be crazyenough to run the world.

Tim Franklin (00:50):
Firstly, why did you do it?
Yeah, that's probably thequestion I get asked the most,
and a few reasons.
One I just wanted to.
Well, I like you, when I firstheard of it I didn't realize it
was a thing.
I'm like how do you do it?
What's it look like?
What are the rules around it?
So I met Tom Dennis.
Tom Dennis is the only otherAussie to have done it.
Did you meet?

Lachlan Stuart (01:11):
him on a plane.

Tim Franklin (01:12):
I met him on the plane.
So great story.
We were flying out to runacross the Simpson Desert as an
ultra and a guy that I wassitting next to was reading a
book about running around theworld written by Tom Dennis, and
Tom was sitting behind us.
The road, behind us on theplane that set up.
Yeah, like unbeknownst sosliding doors moment, so yeah,

(01:34):
so I got to know Tommy over therace week.
We spoke a lot about it and Iwas fixated, I suppose, on doing
it.
That was 2017.

Lachlan Stuart (01:44):
So 2017, though, and then you decided you were
going to do this desert run.
Was that like your first ultra,or had you been doing things
previously?
Were you a runner?

Tim Franklin (01:56):
Yeah, so historically, no, I wasn't a
runner.
I used to, when I was sort of ateenager kid played all the
sports.
I lived a really normalBrisbane suburban life Cricket
in the summer, footy in thewinter and just running around
the streets, just basicallybeing a social maniac, right.
And then I got to my teenageyears and my body started to

(02:16):
fail me.
I've got scoliosis, socurvature of the spine,
osgood-schlatter's which isgrowing, pains in my knees where
tendons were tearing away frombone.
Wow, I got one legsignificantly shorter than the
other like a very low-gradespina bifida, all this sort of
stuff.
So what that meant.
When I went through puberty andmy body grew, I was just in a

(02:38):
lot of pain and I hated movingall of a sudden, going from
loving it to just didn't like it.
So I became sedentary for thebest part of the decade,
drinking, and then obviously youturn 18 and hit the party scene
so drinking, smoking, you know,ingesting other things that I
shouldn't be ingesting, andgenerally overeating and under
moving and got to about 120kilos.

Lachlan Stuart (03:00):
What are you weighing at the moment?
80.
So for those who want to see inreference to me, I'm 5 foot 10
and about 83 and there's a photothat will be on social media
that you can see the difference.
Seeing you at 120, that's like,yeah, so 25 percent of what
you're at now yeah, like anextra 40, yeah, like 50.

Tim Franklin (03:17):
An extra 40 kilos on me.
Yeah, now, go to the gym nowand I can't even lift 40 kilos.
I'm so, I'm so weak after therun, but it's a huge difference,
right, yeah, um, and then Ijust started running.
One day I made a mind so let'sdo the noosa triathlon.
And I'm like, yeah, let's,let's do it like.
This is after a decade of verylittle movement.
Yeah, a bit of cricket duringthe summer, but cricket was

(03:39):
about how many cans I can drink.
You know, at the end of the dayyou're not really moving,
especially when I'm getting outfor not many runs.
So then we started running, did2.2 kilometers.
That's how I sort of tell mystory.
Now when I'm up on stage I talkabout my 2.2 kilometer run 28
minutes, vomited, got my mom tocome and pick me up because I

(04:01):
was just cooked and I had to,literally rang her from a pay
phone.

Lachlan Stuart (04:04):
The old 1-800-REPORT.

Tim Franklin (04:05):
You're exactly right, it was exactly right, and
I do a lot of talking to kidsnow and I've got to explain to
them what a payphone is.
And then she came and picked meup but it just lit a fire.
I loved it, man, I loved it.

Lachlan Stuart (04:18):
Talk me through that, though you hate it or you
didn't enjoy it.
You're spewing, you're gettingpicked up, you're using a
payphone, but then you fell inlove with it.
That just seems so not normal.

Tim Franklin (04:31):
Yeah, I guess that's probably a good way to
describe it.

Lachlan Stuart (04:33):
If I'm throwing up, I don't know whether I'm
going back very often.

Tim Franklin (04:35):
Yeah, well, that's true.
I guess I didn't enjoy that.
What I really enjoyed was thechallenge of it, that it didn't
come easy to me.
Like it, like athletically um,yeah, an average joe right
weekend warrior, but I, I lovethe grind.
I've really fallen in love withthe grind.
I found the joy and just tryingto oh, it's all cliche, but

(04:58):
it's so true.
For me it's just trying to bethe best athlete that I can be
living the life that I have tolive.
So obviously I have to work, Ihave to socialize, I've got to
work, I've got a normal life,but whilst I'm training, I'm
trying to be the very bestversion of Fit Tim Yep.
So that's what I fell in lovewith.

(05:21):
I fell in love with how goodcan I be?

Lachlan Stuart (05:23):
That's such a good way to flip that and focus
on that sort of the growth thatyou can go down.
Did you ever think about likethe scoliosis and the knee
issues and everything like thatas a reason why, like, maybe I
shouldn't do that never?

Tim Franklin (05:36):
never, no, I never .
I never looked at anything likethat as a reason why or an
excuse why I just was going totrain as hard as I can,
sustainably.
So look after my body to adegree, make sure that any time
there was a niggle I'd get itlooked at really quickly, get on
top of it, but then keepworking towards the goal.

(05:58):
Obviously, when I startedrunning, the goal wasn't running
around the world.
This was about 2005, I think.
Yeah, right, so nearly 10 yearsago yeah yeah, so 20 years I've
been running about half my lifenow Crap, yeah, yeah, so I, yeah
, and all various things.
So triathlon was the first likesport.
First endurance sport I gotinto and then, after about 10
years, doing that, doing likethe Ironman and the ultra man

(06:21):
sort of triathlon, multi-daysort of triathlon I fell into.
Well, I just, I just entered a.
I entered a multi-day um runlike multi-day ultra marathon,
where you know one of those oneswhere you got to carry all your
own stuff and I love theattritional nature of it.
Like, I love, like, am I goingto drop today or who's going to
drop today?
Can I keep pushing?
Yeah?
yeah and that's and that, butit's the people I met along the

(06:43):
way which made the journey fun,like I've made lifelong friends
for sure, meeting thoselike-minded people as well, like
, I'm sure, on your journeysthroughout the run and all of
that.

Lachlan Stuart (06:52):
You're meeting great people.
But then the people that maybeyou're training with or you know
I know you have 39 mates comeand join you, like the fact that
they're investing their time tocome support you is like these
bonds and memories that only youguys get to experience and tell
those stories.
That is fucking incredible yeah, it's, it's cool.

Tim Franklin (07:10):
It's cool like and you, you'll experience the same
thing, right?
It's really humbling as well,like people are willing to give
up their time, their money, youknow, time away from work, time
away from their family, to comeand make you the best version of
you.
Yeah, so like, it's that wholepremise.
Now that I've come back fromthe run, it's like be of service
, or be of service to others.
If someone asks if I can helpthem, I'll do everything I can

(07:33):
to say yes to it.

Lachlan Stuart (07:35):
Did you have that sort of mindset prior, or
was that something you learnedthrough that experience?

Tim Franklin (07:40):
I think it's something I learned.
I think if I'm well, you'd haveto ask others, but I think, if
I'm looking back and reflectingon me, I'm probably I've been
selfish, yeah, I've been focusedon what I'm doing and been
unwilling to compromise, and Ithink that's probably reflected
in my inability to maintain along-term relationship only

(08:02):
because I have been so focusedon, because I'm scared is
probably not the right word, butreally hesitant to go back to
unhealthy Tim.
So I've kept training and bereally consistent and really
focused on that because, yeah,I'm afraid or scared of him
coming back because he's stillin there.
Right, it's a battle, but yeah.

(08:24):
So now what I want to do isopen up, like so many people
opened up their home for me onthe run.
So many people came and helpedme on the run.
So I want to do that.
So, like my home now I'll justthe door will be open for anyone
that wants to come in and Imight come stay anyone that
needs, anyone that needs, youknow, any assistance if they
reach out, I am hoping that insome way I can help, and if I

(08:45):
can't, then hopefully I can putsomeone else onto them or
something like that.
So yeah, just to be more ofservice, more selfless, I
suppose, from here on out.

Lachlan Stuart (08:53):
I think the beautiful thing for me, hearing
that from you, is the focus onyourself or you know, being
quote unquote selfish to.
You know, get your health inorder, rebuild your habits and
get yourself into a positionwhere you can then go through
and learn those lessons.
I think a lot of us neverbecome selfish enough to move

(09:14):
the needle forward enough in ourlife where we can focus on
giving back, because many of usare in, I guess, survival mode,
and when we're in survival mode,whether it's financially, not
enjoying a career or you knowknow, we just don't have the
capacity to want to help otherpeople.
I know I've been in thatposition.
But then you get on the otherside and you're like there's
just an abundance.
You can see what the other sidelooks like, so it's like how

(09:35):
can I pull other people?

Tim Franklin (09:36):
up.
Yeah, yeah, that, yeah, that's.
That's a great point I think Ihad.
I mean I it took.
I don't want to say it wascourageous, but I mean I walked
away from a legal career tocoach, can you?

Lachlan Stuart (09:49):
talk to me about that, dude.
Why, Sorry to cut you off, butwhy?
Because there's so many peoplethat I know and listen to this
show that are in a career thatthey don't like, and especially
lawyers and doctors and stuff.
They don't like it but theywon't leave it.

Tim Franklin (10:06):
Lawyers and doctors and stuff.
They don't like it, but theywon't leave it.
Yeah, well, there's, it makessense not to leave it, right,
it's, it's comfortable, it's agreat career.
There's a like cash flow.
Um, I'm in a very uniqueposition, right, I'm a, I'm 41
years old now.
Um, have been working prettywell full-time my entire life,
but I've got no dependence.
I'm, you know, single, so Idon't have the pressure of

(10:29):
having to look after people,which makes it a lot easier for
me to take a risk like that.
But it's also one thing andagain cliche but you've got one
life, right, I don't want topreach, but you've got 60 good
years to do as much cool stuff,change the needle of the world
in some respect, have a journeyand tell a story at the end.

(10:52):
Why not take a risk?
And people always say to me wecan go back to it If everything
turns to custard, I could justgo back to it, and that's
exactly right.
That's probably the same for alot of people.
If they're willing to take therisk, you've just got to go all
in.
I've worked with a lot ofespecially young kids coming

(11:12):
through now that are sort ofhalf pregnant.
They sort of want all this, butthey're unwilling to give all
of it, all of themselves, to it.
It's not going to work.
You can go in and then just getout of it.
Give yourself some time andthen get out if it's not what
you thought, because sometimesthe grass is not always greener.

Lachlan Stuart (11:32):
Yeah, and we're worried about the decisions, and
I think we think they are all.
You know you can't changethings, but the reality is as
you said, you can, and that'swhere the feedback comes from.
If you dip in one toe, you'renever going to really know.
Well, that's right.

Tim Franklin (11:45):
If you're going to go, go all in, and that's what
I do, probably with everything.
But the other paradigm shift Iprobably had in thinking during
the run was so many people thinkabout things or doing things or
setting goals that are big,hairy and audacious, and going
all in Like what can go wrong,and that's where they're focused

(12:07):
on.
They're so risk averse and, asa society, I think that's just
how we're planned, that's how wesurvive.
But I just flipped it and said,well, whatever goes right, what
happens if I pull it off?
What happens if I become theeighth person to run around the
world?
What happens if I have amillion stories to tell?
What happens if I can inspiresome young kids to launch in and

(12:29):
do something cool?
What happens if I can get?
You know, I've had messagessince finishing and throughout
it.
Like Tim, I haven't run in 10years and I just finished my
first 5K because I followed yourstory.
Like that, that, for me, iswhat I did it for.
You know I wanted to get theworld moving.
And Like that, for me, is whatI did it for.
You know I wanted to get theworld moving and all these
stories.
I spoke to a school yesterdayand a young kid from the school
messaged me last night and saidmate, I resonate with your story

(12:51):
.
It meant so much to me.
I'm now trying to, you know,paddle for Australia in the 2032
Olympics, blah, blah, blah andall this stuff, and that just if
I can light a fire in oneperson.
A million people, 10 millionpeople who cares?
If you just make that change,they're not left the world
better than what I arrived.

Lachlan Stuart (13:14):
And that's sort of, I suppose, where I'm aiming
to be.
You make it sound so easy and Iknow it wasn't easy for you
because I've watched a lot ofyour stuff and listened to a lot
of your stuff.
But when you're saying that I'mlike dude, this your confidence
is bulletproof and your abilityto focus on the positive over
what's naturally the negativefor many of us to take those
risks.
And I think what, why I wasdrawn to what you did and why

(13:35):
you know you had me in tears insome videos especially.
You know we'll talk about yourdad and a lot of the stuff that
you went through, but it wasjust your ability to find the
positive and just do it.
And for me I, you know, in thework that I do, I talk to people
all day, every day, telling mewhat they want to do, but never
really backing it up and doingit.

(13:55):
So when I meet individuals likeyou, I'm instantly inspired and
it makes me want to go harderand want to elevate, because I'm
like man, to your point.
We've got one life.
What stories do I want?
To be on my deathbed or whenI'm 70 and 80 and be able to
tell those stories when my bodycan no longer do that yeah, well
, that's right.

Tim Franklin (14:12):
Like my whole premise is just to go as hard as
I can until my batteries runout.
Right, like, do as much as Ican, say yes to things.
Because it's funny, when I wasa kid growing up, I was a
homebody.
I didn't really enjoy like I'dbe invited to, like friends for
sleepovers and stuff and I'd belike, nah, I'd rather no, thanks
, I just uncomfortable insituations that wasn't

(14:34):
comfortable, right so.
But now I'm like, all right,how uncomfortable can I get?
What's my next adventure?
Let's go.
I don't want to be at homeanymore and I think I've just
I've learned that as I'vematured and the run taught me
that the run was like you willsleep and you will enjoy
whatever we can throw, whateveris thrown at you, and I had to.
I had to just adapt to whateverwe had and and, um, yeah, I

(14:59):
mean I.
I think now, after the run, Ican look at anything and be like
, yeah, I'm gonna do it, yeah, Ican get that done, how we'll
work through it, but but I'mthinking I will do it, not all.
Nah, mate, maybe there's just Iwill.
Now let's take a step back andplan how we're going to do it,
um, and that's, that's a greatway to live, but it also it also

(15:22):
is going to slap you in theface a few times.
Yeah.
But who cares?
Yeah.
And that's another thing likeego right.
The reason why people don't dothings is they're worried about
what other people think.

Lachlan Stuart (15:34):
Yeah, any point, I guess.
Well, let's go back a few steps, because there's so many
questions that are just poppinginto my head.
But you sat next to them on theplane and you're like, oh,
that's a fuck, that's a thing,maybe I could do that.
What happened between then?
So that was 2017-ish, and thenyou started the run in 2022?
Yeah, december 2022.
So, in that five-year period.
Give us a bit of a snapshot ofwhat was going on, the planning,

(15:56):
the decisions, all of that sortof stuff leaving your career.

Tim Franklin (16:07):
Yeah, so I had I was still working full-time at
that at that stage as a lawyerum, and I sort of came back from
the run and it just piqued myinterest.
I wasn't all in on it but I waslike, oh, I'm gonna look at
this, sounds, sounds cool.
And then um, and then yeah, andthen not long after that I
probably walked away from thelaw, went into coaching 2018,
2019 on a full-time basis withthe tri-squad and then coaching

(16:30):
in a few schools around Brizzyas well, and then probably 19,.
I was like I sat a few matesdown and said this is what I'm
thinking about doing let's rockand roll.
And that was probably early 19.
And I was going about doinglet's rock and roll, and that
was probably early 19.
And I was going to start.

Lachlan Stuart (16:47):
What was their feedback or their reactions to
that?

Tim Franklin (16:51):
Awesomely and this is one thing I talk about as
well when I do my goal-settingprograms and stuff is, surround
yourself with people that wantto make you better, that want
you to succeed, and to a man anda woman, every one of them is
like how can I help?
What do you want me to do?
Let's do this.
The only people that werehesitant on it were medical

(17:12):
professionals or people thatcared for me and they were
worried about my health.
There was no one that said no,don't do it.
No, you can't do it likeeveryone was like which is a
great, great circle.
Like I couldn't be any more moreblessed with the people in my
life.
Like I could like whether it'sluck or good management, or

(17:33):
maybe I'm not as big a douchebagas I think I am that like I've
surrounded myself with peoplethat just want me to succeed and
that even happened on the runthrough the social media.
There was zero negativity onthe feed around it, like maybe
one or two, but nothing likenothing.

Lachlan Stuart (17:52):
And um, that's incredible.
That like speaks volumes to howyou were showing up as well
well, yeah, I hope so.

Tim Franklin (17:58):
I hope, um, that the people that were the person
that you saw on the, oninstagram, on the social media,
is the same guy that you meet.
Yeah, like that's that's who Iwanted to be.
That's just who I am.
I can't portray like it's toohard as well, like I was too
tired.

Lachlan Stuart (18:12):
Yeah I could imagine.

Tim Franklin (18:13):
Yeah to try and be someone on a different persona
on social media.
So we sat down in 2019.
Um, there was like five of usand we went right, let's do this
, just mates.
And then I was going to startin 2020.
Yep, um, at the end I was goingto start in june of 2020, um,

(18:35):
but then covid hit, so that, sothat whole thing hit and and
then we were like, ah, so wejust delayed it, just paused it,
um, just kept training and mytraining was just running.

Lachlan Stuart (18:48):
Yeah, what.
What was that like?
Were you trying to hit acertain goal of kilometers a
week, or to yeah to a degree, um, to a degree we, we there was a
plan.

Tim Franklin (18:58):
The plan was just a slow build.
It was really I was reallyconscious of not turning a 500,
600-day run into like a1,000-day run with too much
training.
So I was doing prettyconsistently like 100-mile-plus
weeks, but none of it in anyintensity.
Maybe one sort of speed sessiona week or I'd run park run sort

(19:23):
of every saturday as part of along run, but that was it.
It was just all sustainablebuild so I knew if I finished I
could either keep running if Iwanted to or wake up the next
morning and go yeah and that'sthe.
That's the you'll very shortlyfind out.

Lachlan Stuart (19:38):
The superpower is being able to get up and go
again the next day talk methrough what that process looked
like for you, because you weredoing what?
60k?

Tim Franklin (19:47):
yeah, so I was doing so at the end, I think
days that I ran I was averaginglike 53 and a half k's a day for
the for the whole time and Ithink I had 23 or 24 days off,
um.
But at the start, yeah, I wasdoing 65s pretty consistently um
how does the body recover?

Lachlan Stuart (20:06):
like I just people ask me and I'm like 42 is
nothing and then you'rethrowing another 50 on what I'm
doing.
How the hell are you recovering?
Well, I think I just preparedfor it, yeah.

Tim Franklin (20:17):
I think that's all it was, because I, at the end
of the day, I wasn't, I wasn'tdoing anything yeah specifically
, obviously there your bodyadapts so.
So there were injuries, like Igot probably three or four weeks
in.
I got my first.
Like my right quad was awful,like it was just sore, but it
was just sore because it wasunder so much load.

(20:37):
I was doing 420, 450k weeks, soof course your body's adapting
to that.
So as long as you are awarecourse there's going to be your
body's adapting to that.
So as long as you are awarethat that's going to happen and
you can just switch off, likeagain, I'm not.
I'm not a david goggins guywhere, oh 40, you can just bury
yourself and keep going.

(20:57):
That's ridiculousness in mylike.
My approach is just besustainable.
I want to be running when I'm80.
Yes, I want everyone to beexercising their whole life.

Lachlan Stuart (21:06):
I'm glad you say that because that's one thing
I've thought about, like myapproach as well.
You know, watching Ned Brockmanwith his 1,000-mile challenge
like he buried himself andprobably going to have a fair
chunk of time off I look at thatand I'm inspired by that.
But when I think about it I'mlike I think off.
I look at that and I'm inspiredby that, but when I think about

(21:26):
it I'm like I think it would domore damage to me mentally,
like in the head, not being ableto train for this amount of
time.
So I want to do my run in a waythat, yeah, it pushes myself
and I challenge myself.
But I know that, I know maybe Idon't know what's realistic,
but I'm hoping like a two tothree week turnaround I can sort
of start getting back into yeahnormal.

Tim Franklin (21:43):
Well, I mean, I'm not.
I'm three and a half monthsfinished now and I've kept
running.
I think I had like two or threedays off after I finished and
then started moving my bodyagain and I'm still not moving
anywhere near as freely as I wasprevious run, but I got through
a Sydney marathon, I've justfinished a melbourne marathon

(22:07):
and, um, back in the gymalthough it probably doesn't
look like it, um, and just justenjoying movement, I say I was
still.
I'm in love with it still.
Yeah, so it was sustainableenough, my approach that I
didn't need to take time off torefresh mentally.
Yeah, like, I've had ups anddowns, but I think what I'm
struggling the most with is likemissing the adventure.

(22:27):
Yeah, not so much theathleticism of it, because I can
still do that.
I still want to do that.
Yeah, there are days where I'mlike I don't want to run today,
but I still want to be out thererunning and I just haven't.
Yeah, so from that end,physically, physically I'm not
too bad, that's incredible.

(22:48):
Yeah, mentally, I'm gettingthere as well.
And it's not, it's not the, therunning that's buried me, it's
the missing the adventure andmissing the like.
What's going to happen today.
When I was in it, I hated itlike I didn't hate it, but I was
.
That was a stressor yes and likewhere are we staying?
What am I eating?

Lachlan Stuart (23:01):
then some of those logistics that you dealt
with are mind-blowing.
Like thinking about that at theend of the day, like where are
we sleeping tonight?

Tim Franklin (23:07):
yeah, and especially because because it
was fully self-funded so I could.
I didn't have a crew, I hadjust like one and that sometimes
two mates with me, and we're incountries where we can't speak
the language, internet shabby.
We're literally in southamerica.
Who?
Who crewed for about 150 days.
We were driving into towns andlike knocking on doors Are you

(23:29):
guys open?
Is this motel open?
Cause it was winter as well, soa lot of places are closed.
We were like you guys have aroom, like uh, and they're like
uh, no, no England.
And we were like no Englishengland.
And we were like no english,and we're like uh, no espanol.
So we're like just likestanding there, like google
translating or like pointing atthings solving problems.

(23:50):
Yeah, solving problems on the go.
But that was that.
I mean, that's what makes itwhat it was as well yeah and
that's what makes.
That's why eight people havedone it what's it like running
through the snow?
like brutal yeah, brutal, yeahit was.
Um.
Europe was the worst, germanyin particular.
I got hit with all sorts ofweather events, but yeah, it was
, it was brutal.

(24:10):
It's and that's a lot of mindas well like it's like minus 15
degrees outside and I'm theregoing all right, yeah, let's go,
let's go out, and it's justlike really icy on the ground
and then snowing how do you, didyou not freeze?
Yeah, I don't know.
Good question, I am because Ionly ever wore shorts.

(24:31):
Fuck off, I never wore.
Yeah, I never wore.
I don't I could.
I've got my jeans on now andthat's only because I've got to
go present this afternoon.
I hate wearing long pants.
You ran in snow in shorts.
Yeah, shorts, and just like,just just hoker clifton's,
nothing special about them,didn't put any like gore-tex

(24:52):
cover on it or anything should Ihave.
Yeah, that is iconic, but justin it, just in the moment, I was
like it's just unimportant.
I feel like I've overthought itthen too much.
But well, yeah, I think Iprobably.
I went in naively and probablysomewhat underprepared, but I
think that worked in my favour.
Yeah, because you think if I'doverplanned it.

(25:15):
Plans went out the window likeinstantly yeah.
So I think underplanning allowedme to have that flexibility in
the mindset of oh yeah, this isnormal.
So I just did it because Ithink if I I'm usually a chronic
overthinker, so if I hadsomething planned and it wasn't
going, you'd be like oh no, ohno, oh no, oh no, stressing

(25:38):
about it.
Yeah, stressing about it, yeahexactly right, whereas we were
just like oh yeah by the end ofit.
Um, we were just like oh yeahby the end of it.

Lachlan Stuart (25:48):
we were like, like it is what it is became the
became like the catchphrase ofthe of the run, because
everyone's been asking me thatfor the snows, because like
we're doing it in winter,obviously in in the us, and I
didn't really give it muchthought and then, as I started
googling it to like suss it out,then people like you need to
have like the right temperature,because you could either get so
cold you get hypothermia, oryou could be wearing too much

(26:08):
that you sweat and you gethypothermia.
I'm like, so either way I'mgetting hypothermia like well,
well, I ran across.

Tim Franklin (26:14):
I started in san fran, uh, on the first yep of
january, so I did.
I did san fran down to LA andthen across Long Beach and then
into New Mexico.
Well, arizona, new Mexico,texas.

Lachlan Stuart (26:31):
Oklahoma.

Tim Franklin (26:33):
Kansas back into Texas and then Louisiana, all
that like Alabama, all thoseacross there.

Lachlan Stuart (26:38):
And Tennessee, all the way across there, all
across, yeah, carolina.

Tim Franklin (26:41):
Yeah, into South Carolina.
That's where I completed theStates.
I hit the ocean.
Yeah.
And then went up to New Yorkand, yeah, it was cold, but it
wasn't like I was.
It got hotter.

Lachlan Stuart (26:57):
So, to be fair, we were probably running like
because you were not driving,you were running.
Yeah, yeah.
We would have been runningsimilar temperatures then yeah,
we would have been runningsimilar temperatures then yeah,
we probably will be yeah, andyou ran it in shorts I ran it.

Tim Franklin (27:08):
yeah, I ran it in shorts, a lot of it.
I was running Like California,california.
I was hit with all the rain,yeah, so we got flooded like
three times.
I got flooded in San Fran whenwe first arrived.
Then we got flooded, gotflooded.
The big sur was closed so Icouldn't run down the big sur so
I had to run on the one, whichwas chaos.
I got told to get off at likesix or seven times while the

(27:29):
cops um, uh, and then yeah, thenit flooded a couple of days
later and then it hosed downwhen I was running in to la,
like on, um, on the pier andstuff.
It was chaos Like the whole.
And then it snowed when we werein Arizona, got a whiteout, got
blizzard.
I was like what is going?

Lachlan Stuart (27:49):
on.
I can't picture it snowing inArizona with how hot it was.

Tim Franklin (27:52):
Yeah, it was like we were really high.
I got to like we got to likeseven and a half thousand feet.
How did the altitude affect you?
Nah, I, altitude of nah, Ididn't did, I didn't.
Yeah, I've been pretty lucky.
I think, yeah, that it doesn'tdone.

(28:12):
Well, I don't know, but itdidn't seem.
I never was like like gaspingor anything.
I felt pretty good up and overum, and then we got hit by a
tornado in kansas as well, itwas.
So all that happened in likethe space of like the first two
months I was like what?
I've got another, yeah, yeahyeah, I did not sign up for this
.
It was utter chaos.
But um, yeah, but like, as long, I just had gloves a couple of
days in in texas were cold.
Yeah, like, um, but um, justgloves and like a buff and a

(28:39):
couple of layers on top and itwas fine, as long as you start
moving yeah, that's good to knowthough, because, yeah, people's
thought like opinions have beengetting into my head a little
bit yeah, and I think you canmanage exactly where you're
going to run as well.
Yeah, yeah, I don't think.
Um, yeah, I wouldn't.
I mean, the weather was more ofan issue for us.

(29:00):
And what roads are open, yeah,and what roads are closed, and
can we get through?
Yeah, that was, that was abigger deal, that's.
So I couldn't go up.
I was going to run up throughflagstaff and obviously do, yeah
, do the historic like forestgum, yeah, and get that, get
that photo back along monumentvalley there, but it was all
closed because they've had somuch snow when we were there.

(29:20):
So we had to change our course.
Yeah, and that and that's what,and that's.
It's just a real metaphor forlife, right, but you can plan
everything to within an inch ofits life, but something's going
to get in your way and it's justhow you can't change it, but
how you react to it iseverything.
So it's like, oh well, it iswhat it is and this is the new
path it's almost like you'vecondensed.

Lachlan Stuart (29:42):
you know you said you're working in your
career for x amount of years andthat's like a season of life,
but the run in itself, the 19months or 18 months you got to
experience so many differentseasons and challenges in a
condensed period and that's whyyou've probably learned so much
in that experience and that'swhy I personally love doing
things like that, because itjust condenses and helps you,

(30:02):
helps remind you about what'sactually important and I think a
lot of the time you know, foryou it's likeenses and helps
remind you about what's actuallyimportant and I think a lot of
the time for you it's likefamily and the memories that
you're having, challengingyourself, being comfortable with
yourself as well, because a lotof people could never just be
in their own head for as long asyou were.
While you're running for 200sorry, 576.
Yeah, like that's a long time.

Tim Franklin (30:22):
Yeah, a long time, yeah, a long time.
It's funny with days felt longweeks went quick, yeah, and now
I look back, it's all, it wasall over in a flash yeah, it was
, and it's all over in a flash.
I can't like.
I can't believe it was threeand a half months ago.
It's done, um, and I, yeah, I,probably it's a huge deal, but

(30:43):
but I'm just Tim Franklin fromBrisbane.
Yeah, right, I'm just.
I'm as regular Joe at least Ithink I am right as regular Joe
as anyone you meet Just aweekend warrior that enjoys it
and went on an adventure.
Yeah, but people are sointerested in it and so invested
in it, which is so humbling.

Lachlan Stuart (31:01):
Yeah, so it's so cool, but really humbling, like
I'm just me and um you're doingwhat most people want to do,
but they allow fear and comfortand all those things to hold
them back.
And that's what I said a momentago why I'm so inspired by it
as well, because it's just likeand you were holding down a
gnarly job as a lawyer as well,so to say, walking away from the
pay packet and all of that islike such a big deal in my eyes.

(31:25):
With where I've come from, I'mlike this guy's crazy, but also
super inspiring If you can do it.
It's like giving me hope towant to go do things like that
as well.
But for you, the moment thatobviously you know you guys were
all planning around it andlet's go to like a week before
you're about to kick off Likewhat were the feelings that you
were experiencing?

Tim Franklin (31:47):
about to kick off, like what were the feelings
that you, absolutely?
I got a message from someonethat I respected a lot to say
you won't make it past january,which is not what I wanted to
hear.
No, when I'm packing up my life, I'm putting everything I own
into boxes, I'm selling most ofit to pay for this thing, and
then this guy tells me that I'mnot going to make it past
January.
On the Monday, I think I gotthat message.

(32:07):
So, yeah, it was pretty thatknocked me around because I
respected his opinion so muchand I was like what have I done?
You know, have I have?
I is this, am I going to cookthis?
Yeah.
Right.
And so for the first, yeah, so.
So, the week out, the weekleading in, I was as nervous as
I've ever been.
And I'm not sure whether Iwould have been as nervous or

(32:30):
worried if I hadn't receivedthat message.
Who knows, don't know, but Iwas, um still excited.
But to go on an adventure of alifetime?
But yeah, I was, yeah, I was.
I remember being on um likesunrise, yeah, on maybe the
wednesday before I started, onthe saturday, or even later,
maybe it was a friday, and I wasjust, I was, I was nauseous.

(32:54):
Yeah, how nervous I was.
And it wasn't about being onthe tv, I was just like, holy
shit, this thing's startingtomorrow and oh, mate, don't
think I'm gonna make it past um,past january, what have I done?
And then I was justdiscombobulating, basically.
But then I just put it to theside and once I woke up on the

(33:16):
Saturday morning, I just startedand that was my happy place.

Lachlan Stuart (33:19):
I love that.
And have you spoken to old Budsince?

Tim Franklin (33:22):
No, nothing, no and I won't, I don't need to.
Yeah, no, don't need to, don'twant to.

Lachlan Stuart (33:32):
So the doubters I always think about where
they're coming from.
I don't ever feel like theywant to see you fail, but maybe
they're looking at you going.
I wish I did that, or had theballs to take a risk and do
something different rather thanwhat I'm doing, because the
story most when you get on thathamster wheel.
It's just monotonous, right asyou said, you were in this
adventure for so long.

Tim Franklin (33:50):
Yeah, and yeah, I don't know whether, why, why he
sent it, why he felt the need tosend it.
I'd be interested in that, tobe honest, and maybe it was just
him.
Just, I don't think you'll makeit because I don't think you've
done the work, whatever.
Um, but uh, I also was doing itand motivated intrinsically.

(34:13):
Like I wasn't doing it.
I wasn't doing it to becomefamous.
I wasn't doing it to makemillions of dollars it cost me.
Like I wasn't doing it to getrich.
I wasn't doing it to becomefamous.
I was doing because I wanted togo on an adventure.
I wanted to see the world.
I love to run and I want tospend it with really good mates
like that.
With that, there was intrinsicdrivers.
Like I never did it forexternal validation did I

(34:34):
obviously get externalvalidation along the way.
Yeah, people said I wasinspiring and I'm a legend
that's really good.
That's really good for the egoright, that's really good for
the ego, it's really nice tohear.
But that was never the reason Idid it.
It wasn't like I had charitypartners, but again it wasn't
around the charity partners.
If I raised some money and someawareness, awesome, that's a
great side benefit.
But it wasn't about that.
It was a little old Timbo goingon an adventure.

Lachlan Stuart (35:00):
And people from my experience as well with my
runs and people always feel likethere needs to be some
significant reason other thanjust the fact that you want to
do it yeah for the 50 marathons.
Like I was inspired aftertalking to james lawrence, the
iron cowboy, and I was lookingfor my next thing.

(35:20):
I wasn't quite sure and I saidto my wife like before we have
kids, I just want one more.
Like crack at something.
I'm not sure what it is, butjust give me, you know we've
moved overseas for you, let mehave something.
And she was like yeah, sure.
And then, speaking with him, Iwas like hmm, 50 marathons.
Then I saw someone had done it.
I was like I'll put my own spinon it and include australia in
there.
I was like cool, but seeingamerica in winter, like

(35:41):
traveling with one of my bestmates, like the adventures and
what.
There'll be a lot of toughstuff, but that excites me.
And people like what?
What's the huge reason whyyou're doing?
I'm like I just like the ideathat when I'm 70 or 80, liam and
I will be able to sit aroundwith a beer or a coffee and
reminisce on that, like that'swell.
I don't just want to tell thesame story where I was sitting
at my computer for my whole life.

Tim Franklin (36:02):
Well, one of my best mates, she said to me
because I was like, oh, do Iattach a charity partner to it?
She said it's okay.
I don't know why the worldthinks it's not okay for people
to just do something becausethey want to do it Correct, to
go on an adventure.
So she's like don't forceyourself to do it, just do it
because you want to do it.
But I've want to do it.
Um, but I've worked with greatadvice.

(36:23):
It was great advice, right, butthe first question is are you
doing it for a cause?
Right, that's literally, andyou'll get the same question.
It seems to be that what's thecause?
You're like, well, I'm doing itfor me, but I've also attached,
attached, yeah, so, and I work.
Inspiring brother futures is mymain charity.
I work for them.
Yeah, you know, I volunteer forthem.
I love it was started by mygrade seven school teacher.
I'm all in on it.

(36:44):
Right, it's a ripping thing.
It started here in Brizzy.
We're now spread to likeQueensland National soon.
All because he came up with anidea of helping kids, right, so
it's awesome, so it means a lot.
But it wasn't.
That wasn't my why, my why is Iwanted to do it for me?
I want to get the world moving.
I think people that move in theworld are better people.
If we all move, we're bettercommunities.

(37:05):
We have better communities.

Lachlan Stuart (37:08):
It's a great place to live, Simple and very
effective.
What were some of the hardshipsthat you experienced?
Because I can't imagine.
For 576 days you were just inthe best mindset the whole time,
right.

Tim Franklin (37:22):
No, I was an asshole for a lot of it.
I think, if you ask my crew, Iwasn't the best version of
myself, but they were very goodabout that.
I think the hardships wereobviously the injuries yeah,
about 80 days in across thestuff.
Well, in New Zealand my rightquad went a bit funny, but it

(37:42):
came good after a few days.
And then I've got liketendonitis through both shins.
I thought it was shin splints,I thought it was all over.
It was painful.
The elasticity of a sock waslike making me cry the pain on
the shin.
So I was like, oh, this is notgood.
But I just, you know, I tooksome painkillers and just rolled
through.
It went from doing 65 a daydown to like 55 to 60, really

(38:06):
painfully.
But I was either going to comegood or I was going to break,
and I didn't.
So I just kept rolling through.
And this is the.
This is the interesting talkabout.
I'm not, you know, it's notmental toughness to run through
pain, it's actual, potentiallystupidity.
But I, but it was manageablepain and I knew if I got to a

(38:27):
level I would pull it back.
So, um, so yeah.
So I got tendonitis through thestates which lasted probably
three weeks, and then my hip, myright hip, went in germany and
it went like it was like Icouldn't hardly walk.
I couldn't wait there for acouple of days so I went to
hospital.
Uh, while I was in germany,just to get it looked at.
There was no break.
The doctor said I think he saidbecause he couldn't speak

(38:49):
english and I can't speak anygerman I think he said you're
gonna be as good as how muchpain you can, how much pain you
can.
That's it.
That was it.
It it's not.
There's no break, it's justinflamed muscles which are
putting pressure on your nervesand it's nerve damage.
But it'll eventually come good.
It's just you're going to haveto put up with pain and that was

(39:13):
really painful.
So for like a month throughEurope I was like I'm ringing
mum and going mum, I'm cominghome.
This is shit, like I've cookedit.
But eventually it came good.
Why didn't you come home?
She said you'll regret it forthe rest of your life and I was
like, yeah, probably would.
So I just kept pushing, keptwaking up, did everything right

(39:34):
stretch, massage, looked afterit and eventually it just came
good.
Yeah, and I didn't want to comehome, I wanted to finish it,
you know like.
And then obviously probably thehardest thing was the news I
got, um, when we were about 100days in I can't actually
remember I say anywhere between80 and 150 days from the start,
because I can't really rememberbut I was running along and my

(39:57):
phone rang and it was my parentsand they're like, what are you
doing?
And I said, well, I'm running.
And they're like, well, youmight want to sit down for this.
And the RV was just up ahead.
So I said, oh well, I'm justcoming up to the RV.
And then I called them back andthey told me that dad had just
been diagnosed with terminalcancer and he had like three
months to live, which was, yeah,that's probably the hardest

(40:21):
conversation.
Yeah, I mean, I've ever had tohave, let alone when I'm
physically in a hole.
Yeah Away from missing, likeemotionally not anywhere near as
strong as I would be normally.

Lachlan Stuart (40:39):
Yeah, so that was pretty tough news to get get
.
What do you do with that news,though?
So you let's say we'll use it.
You're 100 days in, so youstill technically got like 400.
You got a couple ahead of you.
Yeah, like did you feel, thinkabout quitting.
Then did you go home like what,what happened?

Tim Franklin (40:53):
yeah, I would never have.
My parents would never have letme quit around that.
Yeah, they're like we about.
Obviously they were gettingolder when I started the run, so
we'd spoken about if somethinghappens, what does it look like?
You know, if there's a tragedy,do I come home Like we'd spoken
about all this?
But talk's cheap, right?

(41:13):
Yeah, yeah for sure.
And then eventually that phonecall happened and that actually
delayed telling me, so heactually got diagnosed like a
couple of weeks after I left andthey didn't tell me until the
March I think it must have beenMarch, yeah, so they didn't tell
me until March.

Lachlan Stuart (41:28):
So did he have three months from then or three
months from then?

Tim Franklin (41:31):
No, it was like two or three months from when
they phoned me.
So it was six months, yeah, andthey didn't tell me me, and
obviously that was to protect me, yeah, but I blew up at them
and I said, yeah, I need to tellme.
So I'd constantly ring them how, how are you?
Yeah, good.
I'm like are you really good orare you fucking dying?
yeah like how?
Like just be honest with me,stop bullshitting.

(41:52):
So eventually I just cracked itone day and they said, well,
we're going back to theoncologist.
Uh, next week We'll give you anupdate.
I said cool.
And then they went back to theoncologist and they said he's
got like three weeks.
So at that time they're like ifTim wants to come home, he's
got to come now.

(42:12):
And at the time my brother wasworking in the Solomon Islands
as well.
So we were both away and it wasjust my sister in Brizzy and
she's, you know, she's busy withthree kids and stuff.
So we were like, right, I will,yeah, I'll come home.
But it was I mean, it's nevergood timing, right, but it was
good timing in that I hadreached the other side of the

(42:33):
States, so I'd reached SouthCarolina, reached the Indian
Ocean, so I was just going up toNew York.
So it took a little bit ofpressure off from that end and
the only thing was it destroyedthe world record attempt.
But so I want to say that itwas an instant decision and I

(42:56):
was just no-brainer to go home.
But I armed and armed for 24hours, like what am I doing?
You've got to go.
And then.
So I decided to go, jumped on aplane and it landed, wheels
down in Brisbane and I knewexactly that's what I needed to
be Like.
It was the right decision, itwas a no brainer.

Lachlan Stuart (43:17):
How did you feel emotionally?
Like when you know obviouslyyou said you knew you needed to
be there, but like emotionally,you're going to go see your dad
for potentially the last timelike yeah how does that feel?

Tim Franklin (43:28):
I think um one thing that my parents have
taught taught me is be verypragmatic.
You know like he's verypragmatic.
My mom's the most pragmaticperson you'll ever meet in your
life.
So it was just real matter offact yeah like I was sitting on
the plane.
I was.
I was a mess on the planebecause I hadn't slept.
I didn't know what fucking dayof the week it was.
Yeah, my body was.

Lachlan Stuart (43:47):
What was it like ?

Tim Franklin (43:48):
flying awful, awful so I did like 50 hours
commuting in a week to get homeand then back again, so I was
like 50 hours on a plane in 10days or something.
Yeah, and not knowing what liketime of day or day of the week

(44:08):
it was, it was just a blur.
Starting again was really hard.
But coming back saying goodbyelike the whole family was around
each other for like six orseven days, and that hasn't
happened in our family for yearsand years and years, just
because we've been scatteredaround the globe or doing
different things or just busy,yeah, um, so it was really

(44:31):
really nice and like, so thatwas the on the thursday I was
flying back out, so I think Igot in on the tuesday or the
wednesday before and left againthe following Thursday and dad
was going into palliative carethat day, so he goes.
The last words he said to me isyou've got to finish that damn
run.
And like they made me go and Iwas like, okay, I'm going.

(44:54):
And then he passed away thenext day, so the Friday.
So he passed away while I wasin the air.
So I landed back in LA and thenflew all the way across the car
.
I couldn't have been anyfurther away.
I was like flying to Riley inNorth Carolina, so it was a long
, long trip and got the news Imean I knew it was happening.

(45:14):
So I was like, and I don'tthink I had any tears left, I
think I'd broken down that manytimes on the run I was like, oh
yeah, it's yeah.
And then, um, and then startingagain was physically the
hardest thing I've ever done,like like I don't know, and
obviously emotion took a lot outof me as well.
But physically, like the firstday I think I don't think we ran
, I think I looked at dame andsaid not a chance, let's go

(45:36):
drink beers.
And then the next day I think Iran 12, and then the next day I
ran 18, and then eventually Igot up to 30, and then 40, and
then back over 50s and away wewent.
But yeah, really reallychallenging time, yeah, and then
obviously I wasn't there forthe funeral, which was even
harder yeah.
I just literally watched it onmy phone.
Yeah, I watched it on my phone.

(46:00):
Yeah, I watched it on my phone.
And that's one good thing aboutCOVID, right, set all that
stuff up.
But I'm watching my dad'sfuneral on an iPhone going you
selfish prick, you know like,should you be there?
But he wanted me to be on theroad.
Mum wanted me to be on the road, but it didn't necessarily at
the time make it easier, but Iknew deep down that that's what
they wanted.

Lachlan Stuart (46:19):
Yeah, for sure.
I could imagine he'd be proudof you and I'm sure he'd wish
he'd had that one last beer withhim.

Tim Franklin (46:22):
Yeah, absolutely He'd have that one.
He'd want to miss shit jokesagain.

Lachlan Stuart (46:26):
I think for me that was a massive reminder for
me.
I read a book a couple of yearsago Five Regrets of the Dying,
or something like that, byBronnie Wye, who was a
palliative care nurse.
I of Regrets of the Dying, orsomething like that, by Bronnie,
who is a palliative care nurse.
I read it probably every 12months.
I've read it three times nowand it talks about, like people
on their deathbed, what theirregrets are.
And you're like, fuck, if youhear that from people who, much

(46:48):
older and wiser than me, livedtheir life and that's the things
that they wish they focused on,that's, you know, influences a
lot of my decisions.
And my dad was diagnosed withprostate cancer at our wedding.
He couldn't piss for the wholeweek, like, didn't say anything,
he was just in pain.
And then next minute we're likeyou're going to the hospital,
mate then finds out, um, he hasprostate cancer.
And like you're looking at yourdad who for me was like always

(47:10):
invincible and bulletproof andstill like a blokey bloke that
doesn't like to complain orwhatever, which is probably a
detrimental thing now and you'relike, oh fuck, you don't have
that much time left.
So how do you know whatmemories do I want to have with
you, but also how would I likeyou to see me when you go, sort

(47:30):
of thing.
And I guess to your point, it'slike you've left your dad with
a beautiful image of you chasingyour dreams and doing some
incredible things.

Tim Franklin (47:40):
Yeah, well, I hope so.
I hope that I yeah, I mean,they did, he did more and mum
continues to do so much for me.
Like everything, right, Likeeverything as a kid education
food on the table, roof over thehead, clothes on the back, all
that stuff.
Every time I zigged when Ishould have zagged, they were
there to pick me up.
I mean, belted me up a fewtimes.
Of course, correct, Alwaysdeserved good discipline.

(48:07):
But, yeah, I hope so.
I hope that wherever he is now,he's proud of what not just me,
but my siblings have done aswell.

Lachlan Stuart (48:15):
Yeah, how do you hope to be remembered?
Like now that I think sorrywhat I think, but you're on this
path of wanting to haveadventures, wanting to inspire
people, wanting wanting to getpeople moving when it comes to
the end of your time, like, howdo you want people to be talking

(48:36):
about you?

Tim Franklin (48:38):
Yeah, that's a.
That's a great question.
That's a question I ask as wellin my goal-setting program.
If someone's going to writeyour eulogy, what are they going
to say about you?
Or someone's making a speech atyour 21st for the kids on this
week too, what is it you wantthem to say?

(49:00):
And I just want people to beintrinsically motivated to
aspire to be as much as they can, to be the best version of
themselves, Whatever that is,whatever the endeavour is I mean
, it doesn't have to be athletic.
Athletic is just what I'vechosen because I'm a sports
enoughy and I love it.
But whether it's to be the bestdoctor, whether it's to be the

(49:21):
best social worker, best pianoplayer, best scientist, best
drummer, best actor, whatever,just to be intrinsically
motivated to be the very bestversion of themselves, the
caveat there is be of service ofothers.
I think and that's one thingthat I have got a lot of work to
do, but I'm definitely movingtowards.

(49:44):
Yeah, yeah, You're doing some.
Oh, no, I was just going to say, yeah, hopefully I'll just
leave.
I mean, it's again likeeveryone wants to leave the
world a better place, yeah, Thanthey got here.

Lachlan Stuart (49:54):
Well, maybe not everyone but a lot of people 99%
.

Tim Franklin (49:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Because at the end of the day,
my generation is going to knowmy nieces and nephews and
goddaughters.
They'll know me and maybe theirkids might know me, but after
that I'm forgotten.
I'm just a headstone or aplaque.

(50:19):
That's who Tim Franklin was oris.
So just go at it, hammer andtong until your battery's run
out.

Lachlan Stuart (50:25):
Until your battery's run out.
I love that one.
We're sort of zigging andzagging here, which is fine
because I love it, but what arethe rules of the world?
Run Because, yeah, I'd love togive people some context around
that.
Yeah, so we haven't reallyspoken about that.

Tim Franklin (50:41):
The rules state that you have to run a minimum
of 26,232 kilometres.
You have to start and finish atthe same place.
You have to pass every line oflongitude in one direction,
whether you're running, flyingon a boat.
However, you have to run aminimum of four continents, and

(51:03):
for a continent to count, youhave to run from or at least at
some stage touch one kilometreof the ocean on one side and
finish within one kilometre ofthe ocean on the other side.
Yeah, a minimum of 3,000kilometres on a minimum of four
continents.
It has to be a continuous run.

(51:23):
So you've got to start the dayexactly where you finished the
day before, so you might have tocome back.
And you've got to, yeah, andstart and finish in the same
spot.
Other main rules yeah, that'sincredible.

Lachlan Stuart (51:38):
Who made those rules like how does?

Tim Franklin (51:41):
yeah, great question.
I think it's just now it's.
It's called the world runnersassociation.
Okay, so it's an arbitrary bodyand it's literally made up of
the people that have done it andone guy that presides over
everything.
Just to make sure that you knowpeople aren't claiming yeah
things, so they, they look atall the data and all the
information.
So I've got to provide, youknow, like I've got a

(52:04):
spreadsheet that I'm putting in.
That's got you know thelongitude and latitude of where
I started and where I finishedevery day, the town of where I
started and finished every day,distance, elevation, gain,
calories burned, average heartrate just as much information as
I can put in there.
So, because my watches didn'talways work or didn't always

(52:27):
upload or something went wrong,so there's obviously a few holes
in it.
It's an honesty box as much asanything.
But, yeah, I finished with26,245 kilometers.
You did a few extra there, so Idid 12 extra deliberately so I
could know 26,245 kilometres.
Did a few extra there.
So I did 12 extra, deliberatelyso I could know Australians run
further than me in onecontinuous run.
So I took out Tommy.

(52:48):
Yeah and yeah.
I ran the length of New Zealand, which obviously not a
continent, but then ran acrossthe US, across South America,
from Chile to Argentina.
Then I ran the length of theThames River in the UK, in
England.
That was pretty cool.
That was actually.

(53:08):
That was a really fun run.
There was really good weather.
Yeah and yes, that was awesome.
Then I ran from Portugal to theBlack Sea in Constanta in
Romania.
So across Europe was cool.
And then I did a little bit ofAsia, ran Malaysia and Singapore
and that was brutal.
Left Romania, it was minus 11.
Flew into Malaysia, it was 37and 93%.

(53:30):
Good contrast there, yeah, oh, Ithought I was dying.
Honestly, the first couple ofdays of running in Malaysia, I
was like holy hell.
The humidity was up, wasn't it?
Oh, it just destroyed me LikeI'd worn bass and was plenty
aware of chafe by then, but Iwas chafing in places I didn't
even know had skin.
It was horrific.

(53:50):
And then I flew into Perth andran.
Yeah, perth hugged the southerncoastline of Australia all the
way up to Brizzy, which wasphenomenal.
That is one of the favouriteparts.
Running across the Nullarbor,the Eyre Peninsula, down Augusta
and then through up thesouthern coast of New South

(54:14):
Wales was just incredible, yeah,incredible, and I've never
really been there so incredible.

Lachlan Stuart (54:21):
Yeah, it is impressive, and the memories
that you'd have would beridiculous.
So a couple of selfishquestions for me to finish up
before we let you go to yournext talk Food-wise and sleeping
and everything like that.
How many calories were youconsuming a day?
Were you really like strict onyour diet or were you just
eating whatever you could getyour hands on?

Tim Franklin (54:43):
It was really hard to be strict on the diet
because we just didn't knowwhere we're going to get food
from next.
Yeah, it was pretty easy.
Globally it was pretty easy,but we had to play it safe as
well.
I didn't want to eat too muchlike delicacies of the local
plate, just in case my bodydidn't agree with it.
So I was consuming literally alot of burgers, kebabs, pizzas

(55:08):
and stuff for dinner justbecause they're high calorie and
simple, easy to get relativelycheap.
For breakfast it was like oatsa lot of the time at the start
and then I sort of got over.
It got flavor fatigue prettyheavily.
then we had scrambled eggs andavocado that would have been
life-changing, which is yeah,yeah it was like I had oats for
the first like 100 days and now,like I dry reach when I like,

(55:31):
even the thought of it I can'thave.
Like I had like something like2 000 bananas and I can't go
near.
I haven't been near a bananasince I've been um, can't, can't
do it even the smell, uh, isoff-putting.
So but yeah, it wasn't reallystrict.
Yeah, on the diet thenthroughout the day I didn't need
any gels.
Yeah, I just I ate like, well,whole foods I processed, but

(55:54):
like I tried to have like hamand cheese wraps or ham and
cheese rolls and tailwind, so Ihave liquid nutrition from that
end.

Lachlan Stuart (56:03):
So with the tailwind, is it just like a
super carb dance drink orsomething?

Tim Franklin (56:06):
Yeah, yeah so it's like carb slash electrolyte you
can sort of pick and choosewhich one you want.
So we're drinking that, andthen at the end of each night,
at the start I was just havingice cream again, just for
calories.
So I was probably burningbetween 6,000 and 7,000 calories
a day, wow.
And then over time my bodyadapted to it and fat adapted,

(56:31):
so I wasn't burning anywherenear as many calories.
Oh, that's cool, yeah, but Iwas still consuming.
So actually my weightfluctuated quite a lot
throughout the run, but I justsort of ate what I could get my
hands on.
I never really went hungry.
Yeah.
Never bonked because I didn'thave food.
Sleeping was really challenging, really Like I never, I think.

(56:54):
Out of the 570 days, I reckon Ihad 40 to 50 full night's sleep
, just because there's just somuch going on and so much head
noise with what are we doingtomorrow?
What does it look?
Like I'd fall asleep reallyeasy yeah.
But then wake up at likemidnight, 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock,
and sort of just lie there.
Then all of a sudden I was uprunning again.

Lachlan Stuart (57:13):
Yeah, did you ever have like any nerve pain or
anything through your body fromfatigue at all, or was it just
more so the head noise that keptyou awake?

Tim Franklin (57:23):
Yeah, never any twitching or anything like that.
I didn't stay awake because ofany pain.

Lachlan Stuart (57:28):
Wow, you're a stud in the running department.
Like to not have any of thatpain.

Tim Franklin (57:34):
Yeah, I think I was running it, but I wasn't
running at a pace where I wasn'ttorching anything.
Yeah, it was just plodding,basically.

Lachlan Stuart (57:43):
A pure volume for me, I would think that you'd
still get some.

Tim Franklin (57:47):
So the fact that you didn't yeah, never had doms
or anything like that yeah,never.
There was a couple of dayswhere I had monster days in the
hills, yeah, but even still I'djust wake up the next day, start
walking, start jogging and awayyou go, yeah.
And then it was more just, itwas bored.
Like sometimes you're justreally like you were getting
bored because it was just thesame.

(58:08):
There was a time in Argentinawhen I ran for three days and
did not take a turn.
This was just a straight road.
I was like, holy shit, for like170 Ks, this is boring, this is
boring.
Same farmland, same road.
I was just looking straightahead.
I was just like, oh my God,this has got to stop soon.

(58:30):
And then you look at my Stravaand it looks like I made it up
because it's just the same forthree days straight.

Lachlan Stuart (58:32):
That's ridiculous and I know we briefly
touched on it.
But your body when you finish,like I know a lot of people
would be assuming that your bodywould be absolutely cactus
after running 26,000 pluskilometers.
But, how you said, you'rerunning a couple of days later
and yeah, it's stiff, like, it'sdefinitely not.

Tim Franklin (58:51):
It's not operating at a hundred percent, that's
for sure.
It's just this.
So my hamstrings, my hamstringtendons, have thickened and
they're shorter, really so, yeah, so I'm just tight through the
hammies, yeah, um, so we're just, and I'm I mean, ever since I
got back, my stretching protocolis not as strong as it should
be, but, um, that's, that'sprobably it.

(59:13):
I'm just really tight throughthe hammies, probably lower, but
no joint issues.
I've had blood tests, heartscan, skin check and all given
the tick of approval.
Wow.
Which is, yeah, pretty cool,yeah, pretty cool, and just,
yeah, just the head noise aboutlike just fluctuating through,
missing the adventure and tryingto re-assimilate to life.

(59:36):
Yes, that's going to take time,and just got to try.
And then another's going totake time, and just got to try.
And then another point that Ilearned you just got to be kind
to yourself as well.
Like I came back and I'm likeall right, what's next?
I've got to capitalize on this.
Yes, and I probably haven'tgiven myself enough time to
recover, but that's learning,that's a learning, yeah yeah,
next time I do something likethis I'll make sure that.

(59:56):
Um yet I but I set aside time atthe end to go.
Don't worry about it, peoplearen't going to forget about you
in.

Lachlan Stuart (01:00:02):
Yeah, like a week or two.
Dude, you're one of eightpeople who've done something
like this and the second fastestperson to ever do it.

Tim Franklin (01:00:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not going to be forgotten
about.
I'll give you that hot tip, soit's then.
Um, yeah, so that.
So, apart from that, yeah, nowI feel back running back in the
gym, yeah, cruising along, yeahand what's next.

Lachlan Stuart (01:00:22):
I know you might not want to talk about it, but
I know you're also jumping intosharing the story and the
adventures with the androidspire, so maybe that's something
you want to talk about quickly.

Tim Franklin (01:00:31):
Yeah definitely so .
So, you know, I love lovedbeing on stage.
Yeah, I love telling not, yeah,hopefully, hopefully tell my
story so it resonates with theaudience, and you know they
aspire for more, as opposed tome inspiring them to want for
more.
So, yeah, the more I can dothat, get to do some travel with
it as well, get to meet amazingpeople doing cool shit and

(01:00:56):
people far smarter than me,right, like that, can help me
and direct me.
So that's that's one.
One thing I'm really hoping topush along is is public speaking
and running goal settingprograms and stuff like that.
But then also, I want the worldto move.
I want to get the world moving.
That's my big goal now is justjust get people up and moving,

(01:01:16):
whatever that looks like forthem.
It can be anything butmovement's so important, right,
and so many benefits from apreventative health perspective,
right, and we're justcontrolled by a big farmer,
right, yeah, I know.
So let's move more.
And then I do have a goal inthe works running-wise.

Lachlan Stuart (01:01:41):
Follow you to find out.

Tim Franklin (01:01:42):
Yeah, jump on Timmy R Franklin to find out
absolutely.

Lachlan Stuart (01:01:46):
For those following along.
We've had Tim Runs the WorldTimmy Franklin, the second
fastest person to ever runaround the world.
To find out more information,you can go to the show notes and
you'll be able to find it out.
But definitely if you're from abusiness or an organization who
know, you know been inspired bywhat you've heard here and you
want to see more, I would highlyrecommend jumping over to his

(01:02:06):
website and seeing how you canget him to come speak.
Uh, because your energy, likeit's very different sitting with
someone as opposed to listeningon a podcast.
But your energy from the momentyou know we saw you driving
past in the car, it's just likeyou're a freaking awesome dude,
high energy, and it's made mefeel inspired and good and if we
can get you around more people,it's going to keep happening.

(01:02:27):
So if you're in a position todo that or connect him with
people, please, please do that,and especially my american
buddies listening.
Um, I don't know if you guysknow anyone who's run around the
world, but we do so.
Let's get that going on.
But that's Tim Franklin.
He ran around the world 576days, second fastest man to do
it and an incredible bloke.
Even better story More to come.

(01:02:49):
Thank you, guys for listeningand if you enjoyed it, share it.
Timmy, thank you very much,mate.
Thanks so much for having me.
Thanks, mate, cheers mate.
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