November 12, 2025 • 21 mins
Most men try to outthink exhaustion. They read more, grind harder, and wonder why they still feel flat. Here’s the truth, your mind can’t outperform a body that’s breaking down.
In this episode, Lachlan breaks down the real mind-body connection and why recovery isn’t a reward, it’s part of the work. He shares lessons from 58 marathons, over 640 podcast episodes, and coaching more than a thousand men on how to rebuild energy, resilience and rhythm.
You’ll learn:
- The 3 steps to keep your body and mind in sync
- How to avoid burnout by training recovery like a skill
- Why movement is medicine (and how to track it properly)
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SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Welcome back to the Man the Cam project.
I just want to give you a quickupdate before we get into
today's episode.
Now, today's episode is reallyimportant for you to listen to.
The reason why I think it's soimportant is because we're
talking about the mind and bodyconnection.
It's something that it's almostlike the chicken and the egg,
which one deserves the priorityand which one comes first.
(00:21):
It's also something that manypeople ask me, was it more
mental or was it more physicalin the 58 marathons?
My response, it's 100% of both,because it really is.
It's very important for us asindividuals and as men to
recognize that in order for usto mentally be as sharp as we
possibly can be, we need to beas fit as we can be.
(00:41):
And how that works is by thetraining that you do, the
recovery that you invest in.
And that means not just beingpassive recovery, we got to be
active on that recovery.
So we'll dive into that and makesure you stick around for that
one.
I just got back from the BlueMountains and it was an
incredible couple of days downthere.
I went down there to do aleadership retreat, and that was
(01:02):
run by James Castressen.
Now, if you haven't heard ofJames, he was someone that my
videographer told me about onthe 58 marathons.
He's like, mate, have you heardof James Castressen?
He's someone that myvideographer band looked up to.
And then I heard about him whenI got back.
Client mentioned him.
And then another mate who I dida keynote with mentioned him.
I was like, if everyone keepsmentioning this guy, I'm going
(01:24):
to look him up.
Anyway, I did that.
Then I was fortunate that thesame guy from Twomba who asked
if I'd meant him was like, mate,we're running, he's doing a
retreat down there with a coupleof Twomba's Twumba business
owners.
You should come down.
And I was like, sure, I've heardhis name, I'm keen to hear his
story and see what he does, andI'm definitely going to learn
something.
This guy is incredible, and he'sone of the nicest blokes and
(01:47):
most knowledgeable blokes thatI've had the pleasure of meeting
in a long while.
He special or he was the firstperson with his mate and a
Swedish backpacker tounassistedly do the South Pole
to North Pole return trip.
He also bloody kayaked or rodefrom Sydney, Australia to
(02:09):
Auckland, New Zealand.
And the story of that just wasmind-numbing.
But I took away so much justaround leadership qualities, how
you can run events like we weredoing this uh workshop on one
day, then the next day we're absailing down 30 meter cliffs.
Not something I'd ever thought Iwould do, and it scared the crap
out of me.
(02:29):
Wow, but it was awesome.
It was also great seeing othermen who were there with us and
women push themselves, right?
Challenge themselves in a waythat they hadn't challenged
themselves before.
So that was really eye-opening,and I was grateful to be a part
of that.
And it's given me a lot of ideasfor 2026 with the Man That Cam
project.
So hang on to your seats, guys,because we will have workshops
(02:51):
back, that is for sure.
Other updates, the book's comingalong very well.
I've got a meeting with mypublisher tomorrow, and I'm
actually at a point where I'mreally enjoying the process of
writing the book.
So the framework that I'm goingwith is states of mind.
That's the name of the book, andthat's going to be the name of
the documentary.
And what that looks like is eachchapter is a state of mind.
(03:11):
It's a state of conviction,state of belief, etc.
And we have stories around therun that go into that.
So if you do want to obviouslyjump on the list to pre-order it
and be part of that wholeprocess and help us push it
towards a number one, which is agoal, make sure you just look at
the links in the bio and you cando that, or head over to my
Instagram, and it's in the standstore link there.
(03:33):
Other things, Amy, we have ascan on Thursday, which is 26
weeks now, I think 25, 26, oneof those.
And wow, it's it's starting toget real.
It was a lot of theconversations that we had around
the campfires over the weekend.
I was picking dad's brains.
I was asking, you know, what isit like?
Like, do you lose your drivingcareer because you just want to
spend all your time withchildren?
(03:54):
What else should I be preparedfor?
All of those sorts of things.
And I'm sure you guys have beenthrough before.
And that's really a bit of anupdate.
Oh, one final bit.
Training program started againtoday, so I'm very pumped about
that.
Kicked off with a 10-kilometerrun this morning.
So the goal now with this blockfor the next four weeks is
building speed and getting thatstrength back and mobility.
(04:17):
So that's going to be leading metowards another goals, which
I'll be announcing you know nextyear, early next year.
But speed is going to be veryimportant.
Remaining injury free is goingto be very important and just
enjoying it, right?
Really, really enjoying it.
And that's what we're going todive into now with the mind and
body episode.
Thank you guys for being hereonce again.
(04:38):
Make sure you subscribe if youwant to don't want to miss an
episode.
And if you are considering doingsome work with me in 2026, head
to the link in the bio andyou'll be able to do all of that
sort of stuff.
Take the seven domain scorecardto see where you're drifting and
where you're thriving.
Let's get into it.
We live in a world obsessed withgrit, mindset, and resilience.
And don't get me wrong, thosethings matter.
(05:00):
But here's what I've learnedthrough both coaching and
endurance.
Your mind can't outperform abody that's breaking down.
My name's Laughlin Stewart, andI am a life coach who
specializes in helping men growfrom the inside out so they can
be strong in their body, calm intheir mind, clear in their
purpose, and confident in theirlife.
And by building these principlesand these foundations, we can go
(05:22):
on to have greater impact notonly in our immediate community,
but in the world around us.
And it's one thing that I'mextremely passionate about,
which has led me to recordingover 640 episodes, working with
over a thousand men runningretreats in Australia.
And what I'm excited to talk toyou today is around the
connection between the mind andbody and why it is so important
and how many men isolate them,which ends up leading them to
(05:45):
burnout.
See, most men treat the mind andbody like they're completely
separate.
They'll train the body in thegym and the mind with books and
podcasts, which is brilliant,but they don't understand that
they're one system, one feedbackloop.
So if you push one too far, theother one is eventually gonna
fail.
And real strength, sustainablestrength, is built through
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rhythm.
So we look for stress, recovery,and adaptation.
I've never really understood howsome blokes chase success while
completely neglecting theirphysical health.
When I look at it from a logicalperspective, I can, but they'll
pour energy into work, intotheir family, into side
projects, but skip the sleep,skip meals, skip movement, and
they call it the grind.
(06:26):
It's like trying to win a racewith an empty tank.
Your body is the vehicle andyour mind is the driver, is what
I like to keep telling myself.
They always reach thedestination together.
So you can't think clearly whenyou're exhausted, when you're
anxious, and when you'reinflamed.
You can't perform when yournervous system's stuck in
overdrive.
The foundation of mentalperformance is physical
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consistency.
There was a period in the 58marathons where I had, I was
about 27 marathons in, which ismind-blowing in itself.
But off the back of that, I wasbuilding momentum, I was
building confidence.
But what I failed to recognizewas just how important it was to
be intentional with my recovery.
The harder I pushed, the moredepleted my mind and my body
(07:07):
became.
But I was neglecting therecovery in the beginning
because I was able to get awaywith it for a short period.
Then I noticed that I wasn'table to sleep at certain points.
I'd pull the duner up because wewere sleeping in freezing
temperature.
And I just remember every time Imoved and just having the
pressure of the sheet and theduner on my feet would wake me
up and it would shoot pain up mybody.
I would wake up the next morningand I'd feel extremely tight and
(07:30):
instantly cramped because Iwasn't being intentional with my
recovery, right?
I wasn't fueling well straightafter the race.
I wasn't getting my sodiums,sorry, my sodium and potassium
up to help with recovery.
And I was feeling it.
And it was when one of myphysios called me and he said,
Lockie, you don't have thestores banked up now to get away
(07:52):
with skipping recovery.
You have to be intentional andyou have to treat it like part
of the work.
And that was a really biglearning experience for me from
a physical element, and I knowthat that happens in many
different domains in our life.
In the beginning, we can getaway with small lapses in
intention, but eventually it'sgoing to come back and bite us
on the ass if we consistentlyneglect the things we know we
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need to do to get an outcome.
So some of the mistakes I seehigh-performing men make all the
time is chasing big goals whileskipping the basics.
They'll grind through 12-hourdays, sleep five hours, it's
like a badge of honor, andthey'll live off caffeine and
convince themselves that that iswhat success takes.
Like it's mind-blowing.
I used to be that guy, buthere's the truth: effort without
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recovery leads to exhaustion, itleads to burnout.
Discipline without rest leads toburnout.
Ambition without balance leadsto collapse.
It's not a question of if itcatches up with you, it's when.
High performance isn't aboutworking harder, it's about
working in the rhythm.
We got to push, we got torecover, we got to adapt.
Most importantly, we've got torepeat.
That's what rhythm is.
(08:55):
It separates sustainable successfrom self-destruction.
I remember when I first evenstarted out in business, this is
a completely different field anda line of thought, and maybe
you'll resonate with this.
When I first started out inbusiness, I didn't have really
the best skill set, I didn'thave a brand, and I didn't know
how I was gonna keep this thingoff the ground.
So I believed in the grind, Ibelieved in hustle, and there
(09:17):
was a time and a place for that.
But what I found out over thecourse of the following or
upcoming 12 months was that Iisolated that area of my life.
I believed everything had to berevolving around business from
cold calling to networking totrying to deliver sales to
learning to upskill.
And as a result, I sacrificedother areas of my life from my
(09:39):
relationship to my health, evenstopped watching footy.
Now, for some of you, that mightnot be a big deal, but I didn't
watch rugby league or rugbyunion for about two years, and I
love sport.
And so, sacrificing that tobuild business, yes, you could
say it was necessary, but itstarted making me unrelatable to
people.
And I found this out when I wasat a barbecue one day, and all
the boys were talking aboutfooty and what was going on, and
(10:02):
I just felt like such anoutsider because all I had to
talk about was work.
So, in that social setting, Ididn't know what had been going
on in the sport.
I wanted to, but I just waslike, fire out.
I wasn't able to connect with mymates and chat with my mates
because I'd been so focused, andit was a great reminder that you
can still chase success, you canstill grow in an area, but you
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must make sure you'reintegrating the rest of your
life because when I'm at abarbecue, right, being a mate,
I'm still a business owner andI'm still a husband and I'm
still an entrepreneur and Istill have my fitness goals and
ambitions.
Just like when I'm at work, I'mstill a mate, I'm still a
husband, I'm still all of theseother roles, and you need to
work out how they can integrateso that when you're doing one,
(10:43):
it's charging and lifting upthose other areas, and that was
a huge learning point for me.
I'd love to hear from yourselfif you've ever isolated an area
to the point where you've lostor other areas of your life have
broken down.
It's one of the reasons why theseven domain scorecard is so
great because it will, in underthree minutes, help you see
where you're leading and helpyou see where you're drifting,
and then it will give you someprompts around what you could do
(11:05):
to get back on track and improvethat so you don't get to that
breaking point that many peopleget to before they change
anything.
So I have that in the show notesif you want to check that one
out.
It's completely free.
It takes under three minutes andit'll really give you something
to work off.
Another great story was one ofmy clients about two years ago,
he complain uh sorry, came to mecompletely flat, right?
He'd changed careers, stoppedtraining, and over 18 months
(11:28):
he'd gained 23 kilos, right?
His energy was gone, hisconfidence was shot, and even he
said, looking in the mirrormakes me feel heavy, and I was
thinking, man, that must beweighing you down.
So we didn't necessarily startwith the mindset work, we
started with movement.
It's such an important part toget right.
So when I'm talking about strongembody and with my clients that
I work with, a lot of men willcome to me because, and this is
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this is real data, actually, I'mgoing to share with you, because
their marriage is falling apart,their wife has finally said,
I've had enough.
And if I'm being completelyhonest, when that's happened,
generally it's a decision thatwas made 18 months ago.
It was just that the confidencehas come now to really, you
know, and exit that, and it'sreally hard to get back.
So that's why it's so importantto be intentional on that.
But the second one is becausemen have sacrificed so much to
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become successful on paper,they're feeling unfulfilled, and
they know that when they're outchallenging themselves
physically, they're looking goodin the mirror and they're
comfortable in their skin.
It's a platform to take risks inother areas of your life.
So when I say to you, if you'relistening to this right now, do
you feel strong in your body?
You may be thinking, Well, Idon't really know what that
means.
Well, strong in your body meansyou're strong, capable, and
(12:37):
competent to do the physicalthings that you want to do.
You feel comfortable when youwalk past the mirror naked,
right?
That's some of those things.
Because if you don't, we got tostart there because when you get
the body moving, the mind willfollow.
And so with this client, westarted with four simple
training sessions a week.
Eight hours of sleep a night waswhat we were tracking.
Real food instead of theconvenient servo food.
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And within two weeks, his energyhad shifted.
By day 45, he was movingdifferently, and around day 60,
he dropped eight kilos.
Eight kilos, but moreimportantly, he'd regained that
belief and that flowed intoeverything else.
He showed up sharper at work, hewas more patient at home, he
carried himself differently.
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Like you could see there was aspring in his step.
He didn't need a new mindset, heneeded his body back online, and
once that happened, that waswhen his mind started to follow
because they are connected.
So I'd love for you to thinkabout that in your own life.
What structure do you need toput in place that if you get
your body moving, because motioncreates emotion, what would you
need to do that is going tosharpen you up, have you feeling
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confident and ready to be abetter husband, a better
business owner, chase yourphysical goals, and really just
get out there and build the lifethat you want to live.
Need to think about that.
And it's not about, and I wouldsay suggest what are the
standards that you have.
And I do have other podcastepisodes talking about standards
that you have.
So you can go search for thatone in the catalog.
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With that, you think about doyou want to have poor standards?
Poor standards would be the manwho says, Oh, you know, I'll
exercise next week.
I'll exercise when I feel likeit, I'll exercise when it's
convenient, as opposed to theperson with exceptional
standards, high standards, whosays, I exercise five days a
week regardless of what's goingon.
It's a staple of what makes meme.
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So I want you to think aboutthat for yourself.
And there is science that backsthis up.
That's always the better part,right?
It's there is so much behind it,but research by Kelman and
Callis found that mentalresilience directly correlates
with physical recovery.
So you think about your sleep,your nutrition, and your
training balance, all importantthings.
So in plain English, yourability to handle stress depends
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on how well you can recover fromit.
Think about that.
Recovery isn't passive, it's anactive driver of performance.
You can't think your way out ofburnout, it's just not possible.
You have to rest your waythrough it.
Recovery isn't the war reward,it's part of the work.
So I want you to remember that.
So three things that will helpyou with the mind and body loop.
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Firstly, is move daily.
Movement is medicine.
You don't need to destroyyourself.
Don't think about it like that.
But just be consistent.
Find something that you enjoy.
So mix strength training,mobility, and endurance.
When your body moves, your mindis going to follow.
Motion creates emotion.
Secondly, respect recovery.
So sleep, nutrition, anddowntime are not signs of
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weakness.
They're the foundation ofresilience, right?
Rest isn't something you earn,it's something that you
schedule.
And I want you to think aboutthis for those of you who are
asking, how do I track that?
I use, well, if you look at me,I'm double watched, right?
I was speaking to a clientbefore and I said, Do you use
any wearables?
And he said, No, but I'mthinking about getting an Apple
(15:51):
Watch.
Now, there are so manywearables, so I'm not going to
promote any, but I'll just sharewhy I use it and what I use.
But I use the Apple Watch,obviously a watch face, but it's
great for my running.
I love it for that.
Uh, and battery life is prettygood.
And it does give me some data,but mainly I just want to use it
to track my runs.
The one that I really use and Ithink the data is phenomenal is
the Whoop.
It gives you an incredibledashboard on your phone so you
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can check everything fromresting heart rate to how your
sleep is to your heart rate,very like all of the things
around physical health andlongevity.
It's mind-blowing the data, andI do believe that the earlier
you start doing it, it's onlygoing to help you when you get
older.
Just like doing blood work.
I think about if I had bloodwork when I was 20, I've been
doing it for maybe the lastsince 2019.
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So I've got a couple of years,but even this whoop, I've had it
for about five years.
So I've got five years of worthof data from activity, sleep,
recovery, all of those insightsthat will help me when I'm
older, and there is more use forthat data for doctors to go,
hey, give us a bit of a historyfor yourself.
So that's something to considerwhen you're thinking about that.
So look into wearables and maybeunderstand why you would want
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one if it's valuable for you ornot.
But I I do genuinely believeit's something that is
worthwhile having.
And the third and final step istrack energy, not just output.
You can't pour from an emptycup.
So notice what fuels you andwhat drains you.
Do an energy order, right?
This is one of the greatestthings you can do.
So whether you do it weekly ormonthly, but people, habits,
routines that give you energyversus the one that steals it,
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right?
We all have those people thatsteal our energy whenever we're
around them, we just walk awayfeeling extremely zapped.
And then there's people whenwe're around them, we're just
pumped up, we're energized.
So start making note of that,right?
These are patterns that you canuse to build your environment,
build your energy, and setyourself up for more success.
So that awareness alone is gonnachange how you show up
massively.
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One thing that I've realized isthat whenever I eat dessert too
close to bed, I have the worstsleep.
My mind's super active, and Iwake up the next morning super
groggy, and it always happens.
And when I first realized it, Iwas like, maybe that's it.
And I could start logging stuffon my whoop, like actual inputs,
but then I started testing it.
I would have dessert around 8p.m.
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and go to bed around 9 p.m.
And I would always have anactive mind those nights.
I could just be on thinking andI was like, man, am I stressed?
Am I anxious?
What's going on?
And it's just because my bloodybrain was lit up from all the
sugar, and in the morning I justfeel restless, like groggy, and
I hadn't really slept well.
So I started realizing if Iwanted to wake up, look, I'm not
saying I take dessert outbecause I love dessert and I do,
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but if I have a busy day thenext day and I know that I need
to be on, I know that I need toperform well, I'll just make
sure that I don't have thesweets the night before.
And these are the things that Ilook at as one percenters to
make sure that you're allowingyourself to perform at the best
level to create the life thatyou want.
So we're almost about to wrapup, but when you ignore your
physical health, it alwayscatches up.
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Fatigue becomes your normal, youlose patience with people,
especially the ones that youcare about, and you start making
reactive decisions instead ofintentional ones.
You end up showing up to life onhalf the battery, and the
ultimate cost, you lose youredge mentally, physically,
emotionally, until you barelyrecognize yourself.
We all say, I'll rest whenthings slow down, but they never
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do.
There's always the next thingcoming on your plate, right?
Burnout doesn't ask forpermission, it forces you to
stop.
I want you to reflect on amoment in your life where you
hit that wall, maybe when youalmost quit.
When you master the rhythm ofstress and recovery, everything
will change for you.
I promise you.
You perform more consistently,you make better decisions, you
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feel grounded, right?
Feel at peace, calm, andespecially under pressure.
You stop chasing energy andstart creating it.
That's when your body and yourmind operate as one.
Calm, capable, consistent.
The goal is never to workharder, it's to operate in
harmony.
So when your body and mind movetogether, you achieve more with
less stress.
If you feel like you've driftedfrom your best self, it starts
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with clarity.
I want you to take the sevendomain scorecard.
It's literally free.
It takes three minutes to auditto see exactly where you're
thriving and where you'veslipped out of the rhythm.
Get your body and mind back onthe same team.
My name's Lachlan Stewart.
If you've got value from this,make sure you subscribe, you
share, you leave a comment evenin below.
(20:07):
Like, what did you take awayfrom this?
What questions do you have?
If you put them in the comments,I will always respond.
And even if you ask biggerquestions, it could potentially
turn into an episode like this.
Thank you for being here.
We will see you next week.
Welcome back to the Man the Cam project.
I just want to give you a quickupdate before we get into
today's episode.
Now, today's episode is reallyimportant for you to listen to.
The reason why I think it's soimportant is because we're
talking about the mind and bodyconnection.
It's something that it's almostlike the chicken and the egg,
which one deserves the priorityand which one comes first.
(00:21):
It's also something that manypeople ask me, was it more
mental or was it more physicalin the 58 marathons?
My response, it's 100% of both,because it really is.
It's very important for us asindividuals and as men to
recognize that in order for usto mentally be as sharp as we
possibly can be, we need to beas fit as we can be.
(00:41):
And how that works is by thetraining that you do, the
recovery that you invest in.
And that means not just beingpassive recovery, we got to be
active on that recovery.
So we'll dive into that and makesure you stick around for that
one.
I just got back from the BlueMountains and it was an
incredible couple of days downthere.
I went down there to do aleadership retreat, and that was
(01:02):
run by James Castressen.
Now, if you haven't heard ofJames, he was someone that my
videographer told me about onthe 58 marathons.
He's like, mate, have you heardof James Castressen?
He's someone that myvideographer band looked up to.
And then I heard about him whenI got back.
Client mentioned him.
And then another mate who I dida keynote with mentioned him.
I was like, if everyone keepsmentioning this guy, I'm going
(01:24):
to look him up.
Anyway, I did that.
Then I was fortunate that thesame guy from Twomba who asked
if I'd meant him was like, mate,we're running, he's doing a
retreat down there with a coupleof Twomba's Twumba business
owners.
You should come down.
And I was like, sure, I've heardhis name, I'm keen to hear his
story and see what he does, andI'm definitely going to learn
something.
This guy is incredible, and he'sone of the nicest blokes and
(01:47):
most knowledgeable blokes thatI've had the pleasure of meeting
in a long while.
He special or he was the firstperson with his mate and a
Swedish backpacker tounassistedly do the South Pole
to North Pole return trip.
He also bloody kayaked or rodefrom Sydney, Australia to
(02:09):
Auckland, New Zealand.
And the story of that just wasmind-numbing.
But I took away so much justaround leadership qualities, how
you can run events like we weredoing this uh workshop on one
day, then the next day we're absailing down 30 meter cliffs.
Not something I'd ever thought Iwould do, and it scared the crap
out of me.
(02:29):
Wow, but it was awesome.
It was also great seeing othermen who were there with us and
women push themselves, right?
Challenge themselves in a waythat they hadn't challenged
themselves before.
So that was really eye-opening,and I was grateful to be a part
of that.
And it's given me a lot of ideasfor 2026 with the Man That Cam
project.
So hang on to your seats, guys,because we will have workshops
(02:51):
back, that is for sure.
Other updates, the book's comingalong very well.
I've got a meeting with mypublisher tomorrow, and I'm
actually at a point where I'mreally enjoying the process of
writing the book.
So the framework that I'm goingwith is states of mind.
That's the name of the book, andthat's going to be the name of
the documentary.
And what that looks like is eachchapter is a state of mind.
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It's a state of conviction,state of belief, etc.
And we have stories around therun that go into that.
So if you do want to obviouslyjump on the list to pre-order it
and be part of that wholeprocess and help us push it
towards a number one, which is agoal, make sure you just look at
the links in the bio and you cando that, or head over to my
Instagram, and it's in the standstore link there.
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Other things, Amy, we have ascan on Thursday, which is 26
weeks now, I think 25, 26, oneof those.
And wow, it's it's starting toget real.
It was a lot of theconversations that we had around
the campfires over the weekend.
I was picking dad's brains.
I was asking, you know, what isit like?
Like, do you lose your drivingcareer because you just want to
spend all your time withchildren?
(03:54):
What else should I be preparedfor?
All of those sorts of things.
And I'm sure you guys have beenthrough before.
And that's really a bit of anupdate.
Oh, one final bit.
Training program started againtoday, so I'm very pumped about
that.
Kicked off with a 10-kilometerrun this morning.
So the goal now with this blockfor the next four weeks is
building speed and getting thatstrength back and mobility.
(04:17):
So that's going to be leading metowards another goals, which
I'll be announcing you know nextyear, early next year.
But speed is going to be veryimportant.
Remaining injury free is goingto be very important and just
enjoying it, right?
Really, really enjoying it.
And that's what we're going todive into now with the mind and
body episode.
Thank you guys for being hereonce again.
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Make sure you subscribe if youwant to don't want to miss an
episode.
And if you are considering doingsome work with me in 2026, head
to the link in the bio andyou'll be able to do all of that
sort of stuff.
Take the seven domain scorecardto see where you're drifting and
where you're thriving.
Let's get into it.
We live in a world obsessed withgrit, mindset, and resilience.
And don't get me wrong, thosethings matter.
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But here's what I've learnedthrough both coaching and
endurance.
Your mind can't outperform abody that's breaking down.
My name's Laughlin Stewart, andI am a life coach who
specializes in helping men growfrom the inside out so they can
be strong in their body, calm intheir mind, clear in their
purpose, and confident in theirlife.
And by building these principlesand these foundations, we can go
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on to have greater impact notonly in our immediate community,
but in the world around us.
And it's one thing that I'mextremely passionate about,
which has led me to recordingover 640 episodes, working with
over a thousand men runningretreats in Australia.
And what I'm excited to talk toyou today is around the
connection between the mind andbody and why it is so important
and how many men isolate them,which ends up leading them to
(05:45):
burnout.
See, most men treat the mind andbody like they're completely
separate.
They'll train the body in thegym and the mind with books and
podcasts, which is brilliant,but they don't understand that
they're one system, one feedbackloop.
So if you push one too far, theother one is eventually gonna
fail.
And real strength, sustainablestrength, is built through
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rhythm.
So we look for stress, recovery,and adaptation.
I've never really understood howsome blokes chase success while
completely neglecting theirphysical health.
When I look at it from a logicalperspective, I can, but they'll
pour energy into work, intotheir family, into side
projects, but skip the sleep,skip meals, skip movement, and
they call it the grind.
(06:26):
It's like trying to win a racewith an empty tank.
Your body is the vehicle andyour mind is the driver, is what
I like to keep telling myself.
They always reach thedestination together.
So you can't think clearly whenyou're exhausted, when you're
anxious, and when you'reinflamed.
You can't perform when yournervous system's stuck in
overdrive.
The foundation of mentalperformance is physical
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consistency.
There was a period in the 58marathons where I had, I was
about 27 marathons in, which ismind-blowing in itself.
But off the back of that, I wasbuilding momentum, I was
building confidence.
But what I failed to recognizewas just how important it was to
be intentional with my recovery.
The harder I pushed, the moredepleted my mind and my body
(07:07):
became.
But I was neglecting therecovery in the beginning
because I was able to get awaywith it for a short period.
Then I noticed that I wasn'table to sleep at certain points.
I'd pull the duner up because wewere sleeping in freezing
temperature.
And I just remember every time Imoved and just having the
pressure of the sheet and theduner on my feet would wake me
up and it would shoot pain up mybody.
I would wake up the next morningand I'd feel extremely tight and
(07:30):
instantly cramped because Iwasn't being intentional with my
recovery, right?
I wasn't fueling well straightafter the race.
I wasn't getting my sodiums,sorry, my sodium and potassium
up to help with recovery.
And I was feeling it.
And it was when one of myphysios called me and he said,
Lockie, you don't have thestores banked up now to get away
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with skipping recovery.
You have to be intentional andyou have to treat it like part
of the work.
And that was a really biglearning experience for me from
a physical element, and I knowthat that happens in many
different domains in our life.
In the beginning, we can getaway with small lapses in
intention, but eventually it'sgoing to come back and bite us
on the ass if we consistentlyneglect the things we know we
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need to do to get an outcome.
So some of the mistakes I seehigh-performing men make all the
time is chasing big goals whileskipping the basics.
They'll grind through 12-hourdays, sleep five hours, it's
like a badge of honor, andthey'll live off caffeine and
convince themselves that that iswhat success takes.
Like it's mind-blowing.
I used to be that guy, buthere's the truth: effort without
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recovery leads to exhaustion, itleads to burnout.
Discipline without rest leads toburnout.
Ambition without balance leadsto collapse.
It's not a question of if itcatches up with you, it's when.
High performance isn't aboutworking harder, it's about
working in the rhythm.
We got to push, we got torecover, we got to adapt.
Most importantly, we've got torepeat.
That's what rhythm is.
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It separates sustainable successfrom self-destruction.
I remember when I first evenstarted out in business, this is
a completely different field anda line of thought, and maybe
you'll resonate with this.
When I first started out inbusiness, I didn't have really
the best skill set, I didn'thave a brand, and I didn't know
how I was gonna keep this thingoff the ground.
So I believed in the grind, Ibelieved in hustle, and there
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was a time and a place for that.
But what I found out over thecourse of the following or
upcoming 12 months was that Iisolated that area of my life.
I believed everything had to berevolving around business from
cold calling to networking totrying to deliver sales to
learning to upskill.
And as a result, I sacrificedother areas of my life from my
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relationship to my health, evenstopped watching footy.
Now, for some of you, that mightnot be a big deal, but I didn't
watch rugby league or rugbyunion for about two years, and I
love sport.
And so, sacrificing that tobuild business, yes, you could
say it was necessary, but itstarted making me unrelatable to
people.
And I found this out when I wasat a barbecue one day, and all
the boys were talking aboutfooty and what was going on, and
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I just felt like such anoutsider because all I had to
talk about was work.
So, in that social setting, Ididn't know what had been going
on in the sport.
I wanted to, but I just waslike, fire out.
I wasn't able to connect with mymates and chat with my mates
because I'd been so focused, andit was a great reminder that you
can still chase success, you canstill grow in an area, but you
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must make sure you'reintegrating the rest of your
life because when I'm at abarbecue, right, being a mate,
I'm still a business owner andI'm still a husband and I'm
still an entrepreneur and Istill have my fitness goals and
ambitions.
Just like when I'm at work, I'mstill a mate, I'm still a
husband, I'm still all of theseother roles, and you need to
work out how they can integrateso that when you're doing one,
(10:43):
it's charging and lifting upthose other areas, and that was
a huge learning point for me.
I'd love to hear from yourselfif you've ever isolated an area
to the point where you've lostor other areas of your life have
broken down.
It's one of the reasons why theseven domain scorecard is so
great because it will, in underthree minutes, help you see
where you're leading and helpyou see where you're drifting,
and then it will give you someprompts around what you could do
(11:05):
to get back on track and improvethat so you don't get to that
breaking point that many peopleget to before they change
anything.
So I have that in the show notesif you want to check that one
out.
It's completely free.
It takes under three minutes andit'll really give you something
to work off.
Another great story was one ofmy clients about two years ago,
he complain uh sorry, came to mecompletely flat, right?
He'd changed careers, stoppedtraining, and over 18 months
(11:28):
he'd gained 23 kilos, right?
His energy was gone, hisconfidence was shot, and even he
said, looking in the mirrormakes me feel heavy, and I was
thinking, man, that must beweighing you down.
So we didn't necessarily startwith the mindset work, we
started with movement.
It's such an important part toget right.
So when I'm talking about strongembody and with my clients that
I work with, a lot of men willcome to me because, and this is
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this is real data, actually, I'mgoing to share with you, because
their marriage is falling apart,their wife has finally said,
I've had enough.
And if I'm being completelyhonest, when that's happened,
generally it's a decision thatwas made 18 months ago.
It was just that the confidencehas come now to really, you
know, and exit that, and it'sreally hard to get back.
So that's why it's so importantto be intentional on that.
But the second one is becausemen have sacrificed so much to
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become successful on paper,they're feeling unfulfilled, and
they know that when they're outchallenging themselves
physically, they're looking goodin the mirror and they're
comfortable in their skin.
It's a platform to take risks inother areas of your life.
So when I say to you, if you'relistening to this right now, do
you feel strong in your body?
You may be thinking, Well, Idon't really know what that
means.
Well, strong in your body meansyou're strong, capable, and
(12:37):
competent to do the physicalthings that you want to do.
You feel comfortable when youwalk past the mirror naked,
right?
That's some of those things.
Because if you don't, we got tostart there because when you get
the body moving, the mind willfollow.
And so with this client, westarted with four simple
training sessions a week.
Eight hours of sleep a night waswhat we were tracking.
Real food instead of theconvenient servo food.
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And within two weeks, his energyhad shifted.
By day 45, he was movingdifferently, and around day 60,
he dropped eight kilos.
Eight kilos, but moreimportantly, he'd regained that
belief and that flowed intoeverything else.
He showed up sharper at work, hewas more patient at home, he
carried himself differently.
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Like you could see there was aspring in his step.
He didn't need a new mindset, heneeded his body back online, and
once that happened, that waswhen his mind started to follow
because they are connected.
So I'd love for you to thinkabout that in your own life.
What structure do you need toput in place that if you get
your body moving, because motioncreates emotion, what would you
need to do that is going tosharpen you up, have you feeling
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confident and ready to be abetter husband, a better
business owner, chase yourphysical goals, and really just
get out there and build the lifethat you want to live.
Need to think about that.
And it's not about, and I wouldsay suggest what are the
standards that you have.
And I do have other podcastepisodes talking about standards
that you have.
So you can go search for thatone in the catalog.
(14:04):
With that, you think about doyou want to have poor standards?
Poor standards would be the manwho says, Oh, you know, I'll
exercise next week.
I'll exercise when I feel likeit, I'll exercise when it's
convenient, as opposed to theperson with exceptional
standards, high standards, whosays, I exercise five days a
week regardless of what's goingon.
It's a staple of what makes meme.
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So I want you to think aboutthat for yourself.
And there is science that backsthis up.
That's always the better part,right?
It's there is so much behind it,but research by Kelman and
Callis found that mentalresilience directly correlates
with physical recovery.
So you think about your sleep,your nutrition, and your
training balance, all importantthings.
So in plain English, yourability to handle stress depends
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on how well you can recover fromit.
Think about that.
Recovery isn't passive, it's anactive driver of performance.
You can't think your way out ofburnout, it's just not possible.
You have to rest your waythrough it.
Recovery isn't the war reward,it's part of the work.
So I want you to remember that.
So three things that will helpyou with the mind and body loop.
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Firstly, is move daily.
Movement is medicine.
You don't need to destroyyourself.
Don't think about it like that.
But just be consistent.
Find something that you enjoy.
So mix strength training,mobility, and endurance.
When your body moves, your mindis going to follow.
Motion creates emotion.
Secondly, respect recovery.
So sleep, nutrition, anddowntime are not signs of
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weakness.
They're the foundation ofresilience, right?
Rest isn't something you earn,it's something that you
schedule.
And I want you to think aboutthis for those of you who are
asking, how do I track that?
I use, well, if you look at me,I'm double watched, right?
I was speaking to a clientbefore and I said, Do you use
any wearables?
And he said, No, but I'mthinking about getting an Apple
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Watch.
Now, there are so manywearables, so I'm not going to
promote any, but I'll just sharewhy I use it and what I use.
But I use the Apple Watch,obviously a watch face, but it's
great for my running.
I love it for that.
Uh, and battery life is prettygood.
And it does give me some data,but mainly I just want to use it
to track my runs.
The one that I really use and Ithink the data is phenomenal is
the Whoop.
It gives you an incredibledashboard on your phone so you
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can check everything fromresting heart rate to how your
sleep is to your heart rate,very like all of the things
around physical health andlongevity.
It's mind-blowing the data, andI do believe that the earlier
you start doing it, it's onlygoing to help you when you get
older.
Just like doing blood work.
I think about if I had bloodwork when I was 20, I've been
doing it for maybe the lastsince 2019.
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So I've got a couple of years,but even this whoop, I've had it
for about five years.
So I've got five years of worthof data from activity, sleep,
recovery, all of those insightsthat will help me when I'm
older, and there is more use forthat data for doctors to go,
hey, give us a bit of a historyfor yourself.
So that's something to considerwhen you're thinking about that.
So look into wearables and maybeunderstand why you would want
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one if it's valuable for you ornot.
But I I do genuinely believeit's something that is
worthwhile having.
And the third and final step istrack energy, not just output.
You can't pour from an emptycup.
So notice what fuels you andwhat drains you.
Do an energy order, right?
This is one of the greatestthings you can do.
So whether you do it weekly ormonthly, but people, habits,
routines that give you energyversus the one that steals it,
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right?
We all have those people thatsteal our energy whenever we're
around them, we just walk awayfeeling extremely zapped.
And then there's people whenwe're around them, we're just
pumped up, we're energized.
So start making note of that,right?
These are patterns that you canuse to build your environment,
build your energy, and setyourself up for more success.
So that awareness alone is gonnachange how you show up
massively.
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One thing that I've realized isthat whenever I eat dessert too
close to bed, I have the worstsleep.
My mind's super active, and Iwake up the next morning super
groggy, and it always happens.
And when I first realized it, Iwas like, maybe that's it.
And I could start logging stuffon my whoop, like actual inputs,
but then I started testing it.
I would have dessert around 8p.m.
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and go to bed around 9 p.m.
And I would always have anactive mind those nights.
I could just be on thinking andI was like, man, am I stressed?
Am I anxious?
What's going on?
And it's just because my bloodybrain was lit up from all the
sugar, and in the morning I justfeel restless, like groggy, and
I hadn't really slept well.
So I started realizing if Iwanted to wake up, look, I'm not
saying I take dessert outbecause I love dessert and I do,
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but if I have a busy day thenext day and I know that I need
to be on, I know that I need toperform well, I'll just make
sure that I don't have thesweets the night before.
And these are the things that Ilook at as one percenters to
make sure that you're allowingyourself to perform at the best
level to create the life thatyou want.
So we're almost about to wrapup, but when you ignore your
physical health, it alwayscatches up.
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Fatigue becomes your normal, youlose patience with people,
especially the ones that youcare about, and you start making
reactive decisions instead ofintentional ones.
You end up showing up to life onhalf the battery, and the
ultimate cost, you lose youredge mentally, physically,
emotionally, until you barelyrecognize yourself.
We all say, I'll rest whenthings slow down, but they never
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do.
There's always the next thingcoming on your plate, right?
Burnout doesn't ask forpermission, it forces you to
stop.
I want you to reflect on amoment in your life where you
hit that wall, maybe when youalmost quit.
When you master the rhythm ofstress and recovery, everything
will change for you.
I promise you.
You perform more consistently,you make better decisions, you
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feel grounded, right?
Feel at peace, calm, andespecially under pressure.
You stop chasing energy andstart creating it.
That's when your body and yourmind operate as one.
Calm, capable, consistent.
The goal is never to workharder, it's to operate in
harmony.
So when your body and mind movetogether, you achieve more with
less stress.
If you feel like you've driftedfrom your best self, it starts
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with clarity.
I want you to take the sevendomain scorecard.
It's literally free.
It takes three minutes to auditto see exactly where you're
thriving and where you'veslipped out of the rhythm.
Get your body and mind back onthe same team.
My name's Lachlan Stewart.
If you've got value from this,make sure you subscribe, you
share, you leave a comment evenin below.
(20:07):
Like, what did you take awayfrom this?
What questions do you have?
If you put them in the comments,I will always respond.
And even if you ask biggerquestions, it could potentially
turn into an episode like this.
Thank you for being here.
We will see you next week.
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