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February 11, 2022 49 mins

There’s only one Jackie Kashian. Maybe there are other people with that name, but only one like this; a great comic, funny, thoughtful, an industry. From growing up in Wisconsin with neigbors like Mrs. Grubschmidt and Mr. Clump, to growing up emotionally, we talk about those kinds of things on this episode. Jackie tells stories about finding a really good therapist who told her to “do the work” because this is a very expensive place just to workshop a joke. And although she did get a one person show out of it, she actually did do the work. And, making peace with parents, and family members; processing that rage that many people have about their upbringing. Realizing that no one knows what the hell they’re doing and mostly people are trying to do their best, however not good at it they are. And that out of this funk, come hours of stand up comedy that you can write about flawed humanity. She goes on to talk about perspective and the ability to make choices; like having an out of body experience, muscle memory that says “wait a minute, you can do this differently.” And we always talk about Jackie’s dad who is the ultimate salesman, and a man who knows how to live it up! There is a point in the show where Jackie compares an everyday thing to living in a snuff film, listen for that. Just a really good conversation, with a really interesting, multi-faceted person. Jennifer and I also talk about roles that we play in life, how to question and change the roles we don’t have to play. Questioning feelings, thoughts, behaviors, that we can step outside ourselves and do that. We can witness ourselves and be curious about it. And I celebrate the amazing lack of boundaries in my family growing up. Entire conversations while in the bathroom. And if you want to practice setting boundaries, come up with a boundary ahead of time, and you can talk positives before setting the boundary. You can rehearse anything and any situation. It’s not always perfect or smooth, but just the awareness that you can do that, can change a lot. Connect before you correct; as Jennifer says. My example “I love when we talk, but when it goes on for too long, I feel like I need to walk in front of a train.” Find all about Jackie, her podcasts, tours, events, social media, happenings at https://www.jackiekashian.com/ and all of Jennifer’s amazing work, media, classes and services at https://connectedparenting.com/ take care, stay well and live it up!

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